Happy Monday, Razzball faithful!
It was a busy few days for your favorite Roto-Writing Dad, so I contemplated taking the week off.
Instead, I switched up this week’s format so we could still get some information out and (hopefully) give you fantastic fantasy followers a smidge of entertainment in the process.
Old MarmosDad has one of those milestone birthdays coming up (on the same day as Miles Mikolas!), so this past Saturday was a party of sorts with a bunch of old friends. Then, yesterday, my two Marm-offspring and I headed to the big city to catch Uncle Neil Young for their first-ever big-time concert.
Marmos is your one-stop shop for crisp pitching rankings and fuzzy photos.
This will launch on Monday afternoon, and I can say, with absolute certainty, that I will have been in much better shape after this iteration of Neil Young than I was when I saw him last, with Oasis, nearly 30 years ago (August 31, 1996). Let’s just say there’s a story that doesn’t need to be told here about that one, but that there was a certain poetic irony that went down right when Neil sang that opening line from “Helpless”. EDIT: Dad finished the night/morning with no setbacks.
If you want to hop into the DeLorean again and see if you can recapture some of that mid-’90s mojo, you can check out my Back To The Future write-up from last week here. I can’t promise it’ll bring you back to good old 1995 without a fistful of plutonium stuffed into your backpack for the return trip, though.
Cool story, Marmos, but wtf does this have to do with baseball?
Ya, I get it. But I promise you, I can connect the dots here.
Today, it’s Omemee, Ontario’s favorite son, stepping in as the muse for the “Dog Days of Summer Awards Show” theme. Each highly sought-after medal of honor finds its roots in the name of a Neil Young song.
We’ll list a few nominees for each prestigious accolade. Then we’ll anoint an unarguable and definitive winner based on flawlessly scoured empirical data and in-depth statistical analysis.
Or something like that.
And don’t worry, List Hounds! You’ll get yer ‘dog days’ names and numbers this week, too. (Just with no notes to carve up!).
Let’s get to it.
“Old Man” (from Harvest – 1972)
The name is pretty self-explanatory. Which “more experienced” veterans have given us our biggest return on investment through the madness that was the first 20+ weeks of Fantasy Baseball? The only requirement here is that each nominee has started at least 5 games…and has celebrated at least 35 birthdays!
Nominees: Max Scherzer (41), Clayton Kershaw (37), Rich Hill (45), Justin Verlander (42), Charlie Morton (41), Yu Darvish (38), Jacob deGrom (37).
Unnecessary Commentary: I was all set to give our first-ever “Old Man” award to Clayton Kershaw, especially after his performance in the Flux KerScherzer game on Friday, August 8th. Then I stuck to the 35-year-old requirement and realized that a certain Texas Rangers pitcher blows the rest of the oldies away.
Winner: 140.1 IP, 148 Ks, 10-5 record. ERA at 2.76, WHIP at 0.93 – Jacob deGrom.
This tune is a favorite of mine, mostly because I have a video somewhere of my eldest singing it one summer before he turned 4.
Check the bottom of the page for the most recent rendition from Mr. Young – one that the MiniMarmos were very excited to hear last night.
“The Needle and the Damage Done” (Harvest – 1972)
This one could be interpreted a couple of different ways, so let’s outline it first. This list is filled with Starting Pitchers that have been easy to poke fun at because of the damage they’ve done to the ratios of our 2025 fantasy teams.
Nominees: Roger Clemens (just kidding!), Sandy Alcantara, Zac Gallen, Taj Bradley, Brandon Pfaadt.
Winner: Sandy Alcantara
It’s easy to ‘needle’ starters who struggle. Giving a starting pitcher a hard time when he’s struggling isn’t nice, but in this case, and with these guys, the damage is already done whether we’re Razzing them or not. With that all said, it’s tough not to pick Sandy as the arm that I would trust the most from this list through the rest of the season. For what it’s worth, I don’t know if that’s a compliment.
“Keep On Rockin’ in the Free World” (Freedom – 1989)
My kids were troopers last night, but they conked out before we could get to the encore. Friends said that Neil finished the show with this fan favorite, one that everyone was looking forward to, which parallels nicely with this list. On our way out, we asked a nice couple beside us to make sure they rocked out twice as hard to make up for our absence.
Which Starting Pitchers were we looking forward to seeing produce well and give us our best “Return-On-Investment” from draft season? Who was “free” to draft, started hot, and has kept on rockin’ all season long for the squad?
Nominations (with NFBC ADP in parentheses): Edward Cabrera (418), Eric Lauer (450), Jacob Lopez (451), Adrian Houser (452), Eury Perez (454),
Winner: Eury Perez. As much as I’d like to give this to someone like Nathan Eovaldi (208), Big Nate’s already hit the podium today. Eury’s comeback has more than paid off for those who took a late flier on the much-maligned Marlin way back during the draft season. He went even later in the RazzSlam ADP, where we drafted a total of 504 players in each league (12 teams X 42 roster spots). When you’re producing like this, and your ADP data has you nestled between Gus Varland and Valente Ballozo, this one speaks for itself.
Honorable mention: Brandon Woodruff (248).
“Heart of Gold” (Harvest – 1972)
Does being a nice guy count for fantasy baseball, or do these guys still finish last? I’m not sure, but either way, we’re headed back to that Harvest album for this one.
Nominees: Chris Bassitt, Jesus Luzardo, Shohei Ohtani, Freddie Freeman.
This is a list that could be a lot longer than it is here. As great as it is to see Starting Pitchers getting involved with their teams, from Bassitt donating $10K to the Jays Care Foundation for every one of his wins, to Jesus Luzardo sending $100 for each strikeout to the Boys and Girls Club of Philly, I don’t think we’ll get much pushback for our “nicest guy in baseball” award. Just beating out teammate Freddie Freeman here is a feat in itself!
Winner: Shohei Ohtani. I mean…Come on.
“Cortez The Killer” (Zuma – 1975 – with Crazy Horse)
Which player is the one that you avoid adding or promoting to the active roster, no matter if he’s in the rotation or bullpen, because you know he’s a team ratio killer?
Winner: Nestor. Um…duh.
“Helpless & The Loner” (Deja Vu – 1970) & (Solo debut album – 1968)
It’s a mashed-together remix of melancholy for this one. Which pitchers have had little to no help all year and have pitched much better than their win/loss records indicate? Whose team has provided the fewest runs of offense, giving them less support than a crutch made of Ramen noodles? Helpless is a bit of a cheat as it’s written by Neil, but considered a Crosby, Stills, Nash & Young classic.
Nominees (with runs per start in parentheses): Yoshinobu Yamamoto (2.78), Paul Skenes (2.98), Michael Wacha (2.98), Mitch Keller (3.56).
Winner: It’s a Tie! And mostly because it makes sense to group them – Paul Skenes and Mitch Keller.
“Cinnamon Girl” (Everybody Knows This Is Nowhere – 1969)
If any of you have seen or at least heard of the “Cinnamon Challenge”, this one will make sense to you.
These are the starting pitchers whose performances have been very tough to swallow and may have made you gag and/or vomit a bit when you had to watch them pitch for your fantasy teams. If you have no idea what I’m referring to, you can check the MythBusters clip below.
Wait, what exactly is the cinnamon challenge?
Nominees: Gavin Williams, Clay Holmes, Jose Soriano, Zac Gallen, Shane Baz.
I cherry-picked the worst (qualified) starters with the most atrocious K-BB rates for this one. It is one of our toughest competitions for a vomit-induced dry heave, but the winner is…
Shane Baz.
When you’re charging towards the money spots in an AL-Only league, and you’re sitting an SP even when his matchups aren’t all that bad…that’s about as big a barf emoji as we can get here.
“Like A Hurricane” (American Stars N’ Bars – 1977)
Which younger pitchers swooped in this year and took the league by storm?
Nominees: Jacob Misiorowski, Chase Burns, Jackson Jobe, Noah Cameron, Shane Smith, Cade Horton.
Winner: Our All-Star week lede, Jacob Misiorowski.
“Southern Man” (After The Gold Rush – 1970)
This one was my most listened to album by Neil Young, despite it being released much earlier than I was (I’m not that old).
Which “Southern” team’s starter has been the best of the 2025 bunch?
Nominees: Chris Sale, Seth Lugo, Sonny Gray, Nathan Eovaldi, Hunter Brown, Framber Valdez.
I left deGrom out of here intentionally, so he doesn’t load up on multiple awards. This is the tightest vote of them all, as each of these pitchers can lay claim to being close to the best in the league at some point in the season.
Winner: Framber Valdez – the quality starts and consistency pushes Framber a millimetre ahead of Nathan Eovaldi and Hunter Brown at the finish line here.
“Look Out For My Love” (Comes A Time – 1978 with Crazy Horse OR Chrome Dreams – 1977/2023)
You can tap one of two different albums for this one. The Chrome Dreams record is a compilation of tunes from 1975-1977 that weren’t released until 2023.
Which arms did we love heading into the season and needed the Roto-Gods to keep “looking out for”?
Nominations: Paul Skenes, George Kirby, Shota Imanaga, Bryan Woo, Nick Lodolo, Gavin Williams.
All of these guys were Starting Pitchers that I was in on in the first list of the year (way back on February 10th).
Winner: Bryan Woo. Because, of course, it is. But when you’re setting an MLB record with 24 consecutive 6+-inning starts with 2 or fewer walks in each one? Yeah, that checks out.
But let’s not lose sight of the real reason why many of you are here:
The Top 100 Starting Pitchers for 2025
*Not including results from Sunday’s games*
SP RANK | Name | Team |
---|---|---|
1 | Tarik Skubal | DET |
2 | Garrett Crochet | BOS |
3 | Paul Skenes | PIT |
4 | Yoshinobu Yamamoto | LAD |
5 | Bryan Woo | SEA |
6 | Tyler Glasnow | LAD |
7 | Jacob deGrom | TEX |
8 | Joe Ryan | MIN |
9 | Freddy Peralta | MLW |
10 | Logan Webb | SF |
11 | Blake Snell | LAD |
12 | Framber Valdez | HOU |
13 | Hunter Brown | HOU |
14 | George Kirby | SEA |
15 | Logan Gilbert | SEA |
16 | Nathan Eovaldi | TEX |
17 | Cristopher Sanchez | PHI |
18 | Max Fried | NYY |
19 | Robbie Ray | SF |
20 | Carlos Rodon | NYY |
21 | Nick Pivetta | SD |
22 | Shota Imanaga | CHC |
23 | Brandon Woodruff | MLW |
24 | Dylan Cease | SD |
25 | Hunter Greene | CIN |
26 | Sonny Gray | STL |
27 | Trevor Rogers | BAL |
28 | MacKenzie Gore | WSH |
29 | Matthew Boyd | CHC |
30 | Ranger Suarez | PHI |
31 | Eury Perez | MIA |
32 | Luis Castillo | SEA |
33 | Spencer Strider | ATL |
34 | Seth Lugo | KC |
35 | Jesus Luzardo | PHI |
36 | Andrew Abbott | CIN |
37 | Edward Cabrera | MIA |
38 | Noah Cameron | KC |
39 | Kodai Senga | NYM |
40 | Will Warren | NYY |
41 | Ryan Pepiot | TB |
42 | Lucas Giolito | BOS |
43 | Sean Manaea | NYM |
44 | Jack Flaherty | DET |
45 | Merrill Kelly | TEX |
46 | Brayan Bello | BOS |
47 | Drew Rasmussen | TB |
48 | Quinn Priester | MLW |
49 | Casey Mize | DET |
50 | Jacob Lopez | ATH |
51 | Cade Horton | CHC |
52 | Jacob Misiorowski | MLW |
53 | Gavin Williams | CLE |
54 | Max Scherzer | TOR |
55 | Kevin Gausman | TOR |
56 | Mitch Keller | PIT |
57 | Yusei Kikuchi | LAA |
58 | David Peterson | NYM |
59 | Yu Darvish | SD |
60 | Tanner Bibee | CLE |
61 | Shane Bieber | TOR |
62 | Clay Holmes | NYM |
63 | Luis Gil | NYY |
64 | Jose Berrios | TOR |
65 | Jose Soriano | LAA |
66 | Cam Schlittler | NYY |
67 | Justin Verlander | SF |
68 | Ryne Nelson | ARI |
69 | Shane Baz | TB |
70 | Emmett Sheehan | LAD |
71 | Clayton Kershaw | LAD |
72 | Zack Littell | CIN |
73 | Spencer Arrighetti | HOU |
74 | Michael Wacha | KC |
75 | Zebby Matthews | MIN |
76 | Shohei Ohtani | LAD |
77 | Eric Lauer | TOR |
78 | Chris Bassitt | TOR |
79 | Brady Singer | CIN |
80 | Jose Quintana | MLW |
81 | Jeffrey Springs | ATH |
82 | Sandy Alcantara | MIA |
83 | Adrian Houser | TB |
84 | Charlie Morton | DET |
85 | Colin Rea | CHC |
86 | Bailey Ober | MIN |
87 | Joe Boyle | TB |
88 | Bryce Miller | SEA |
89 | Slade Cecconi | CLE |
90 | Jack Leiter | TEX |
91 | Zac Gallen | ARI |
92 | Matthew Liberatore | STL |
93 | Michael McGreevy | STL |
94 | Nick Martinez | CIN |
95 | Chris Paddack | DET |
96 | Shane Smith | CWS |
97 | Hurston Waldrep | ATL |
98 | Dustin May | BOS |
99 | Brandon Pfaadt | ARI |
100 | Troy Melton | DET |
STUMPERS (These names might stump you as to why they aren’t on the Top 100…yet. Some of these guys are close).
Nestor Cortes
Dean Kremer
Cade Povich
Brandon Young
Cristian Javier – pitched well in his return from injury last week.
Jake Irvin
Joey Cantillo
Eduardo Rodriguez
Jameson Taillon
Tyler Anderson
Brad Lord
Cade Cavalli
Tomoyuki Sugano
Jason Alexander – He’ll replace Nick Martinez if the Reds starter heads to the bullpen.
Landen Roupp – I almost pulled Misiorowski off this week and put him in the holding tank with the Roupp-dogg for another start or two.
Noah McLean – I mentioned him a couple of weeks ago in my Rest-of-Season NL-Only rankings, and Grey had him as his Thursday morning lede.
BUMPERS (Injured starters or minor league guys who could or would bump others off the list if they were active on the big league roster).
Cole Ragans
Spencer Schwellenbach
Shane McClanahan – can surgery be season-ending if the guy’s season never started in the first place? Insert pensive emoji here.
Jared Jones
Gerrit Cole
Justin Steele
John Means
Grant Holmes
Griffin Canning
Reese Olson
Grayson Rodriguez
Aaron Nola – scheduled to return yesterday.
Jackson Jobe
Andrew Painter
Bubba Chandler
Tyler Mahle
Pablo Lopez
Tylor Megill
Chris Sale
Ryan Weathers
Clarke Schmidt
Logan Henderson
Corbin Burnes
Max Meyer
Michael King – IL with knee inflammation. That was a fun week. Smh.
Chase Burns – Ugh. Elbow flexor strain. “Best case scenario” is a minimum IL stint.
Zack Wheeler – My, My, Hey, Hey. This heartbreaker is here to stay. Take Burns’ Ugh and multiply it by a kajillion? A shoulder blood clot takes out our NL Cy Young front-runner at a terrible time for our H2H managers.
WHEE (New arrivals to the list this week)
Shane Smith
Michael McGreevy
Huston Waldrep (the first, not third)
Dustin May – I get the feeling that he’s the new Taillon/Taill-off-the-list guy each week.
Troy Melton
OOF (Stumbled or were replaced by others in the list this week)
Janson Junk
Andrew Heaney
Chase Burns – IL
Zack Wheeler – IL
Michael King – IL
And I’ve got one last nod before we leave for the week. While many of the above albums predate even me, they’ve got my kids by more than 50 years.
But that doesn’t stop us from enjoying the music.
That’s all for this week! I hope you enjoyed it! If you’re feeling extra fired up about some of the names I do (or don’t) have here, drop some comments in the chat. Have a great week!
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Good morning MarmosDad!
Well I still have not made any of the moves discussed below. Bryce Miller is still on my IL and Bubba is still warming my bench. So which of these moves do you like better (or hate less):
A: Drop Bubba to activate Miller, who is a 2-starter next week (SD, @CLE). Miller didn’t have the disaster I expected last night against PHI, but neither was it a great outing.
Then drop either Cade Horton (not IL’d (yet)) or J. Estrada to start streaming today. Horton has been very good for points this past month (until Monday) and might face LAA on the weekend.
B: Remember the sunk cost fallacy and just drop Miller, who is probably not fixed. Then drop Bubba for my streamer.
I’m leaning option B right now…
Thanks!
You’re probably making the smarter move with B. One of my weaknesses is holding players for far too long.
I’m tempted to hold Miller there and turf Bubba. Holding at least for another couple starts to see if it was worth stashing him while he was rehabbing.
That said I have him in two leagues where I don’t have much of a choice for streamers on the wire so I get it if you lean B there. Current production outweighs hope at this point of the season.
Good luck!
Thanks MD! It’s a shallow league so I’m going with Option B. Current production as you say…
I don’t believe it — 2 hours after I drop Bubba, the Pirates announce they are calling him up!
Oh man. I just checked Perts and Grey already scooped him. Haha.
I’m guessing he’s gone in my other RCLs. Just ridiculous timing.
Sounds like he isn’t going to get a regular turn in the rotation and is headed to the bullpen! Continued headache avoided!
Yeah, I read the same thing last night — they will start Bubba as a bulk reliever. Middle relievers are not that attractive for points leagues, unless they get wins (and it’s the Pirates, so…). So I felt better. And I dropped Bubba for Waldrep, and felt better again.
Really pissed at the news about Kyle Tucker’s fractured hand (since June) — that’s two years in a row of no injury transparency… on two different teams!
Lastly — J. Miz. I think he might be droppable for points. K’s are nice, but W’s & QS’s are better, and I just don’t see that coming. Thanks!
(edit — just read Grey’s comment and got his answer, haha!)
The Tucker stuff is brutal. And it stinks of “we better have him keep playing or people will kill us for making that trade” from the Cubs perspective.
Ya it sounds like both Miz and Bubs are “innings management through bullpen usage”. I get it.
I guess Pitt said he could earn starts with strong showings, but I’d be surprised if Bubba was lights out for 10-15 innings then actually got moved into the starting 5. It just sounds like a good excuse to hold him back.
And, of course, you wouldn’t want them to upset rotation anchors like Oviedo, Ashcraft, or Mike fn Burrows…
Smh emoji.
rotfl emoji — but no bitterness, right?
With H2H Cat Playoffs upcoming, who would you rather have Alcantara or Strider?
That’s tough. Pretty big risk for either guy right now but I’d lean Strider.
Would you mind change if Sandy has another good outing tonight?
your** mind
I think it’s EdCab tonight and Sandy tomorrow. I’d probably still roll with Strider but any start that builds off of his last one at Fenway is a positive.
The two before that though. Ugh.
He shut out STL through 5 innings at the end of July too so at least that’s encouraging too if you decide to go with him anyway.
Yep you’re right he’s going tomorrow. There is still time to figure out who to roll with, thanks for your input!
After seeing what he did tonight, you making that swap now?
Should I hold Sandy or swap for Berrios?
Hold Sandy and ride the wave!
My dad had a career in radio and T.V. in Canada… so when he was doing he morning radio show on CHFI they brought in a new guy to do the sports named Scott Young…nice guy wrote a few books on hockey, ect. My dad asks him if he had any kids and Scott says two boys…my oldest, Robert, is in university studying to be an accountant. My wife and I are very proud of him, but youngest one is just a bum. he’s gone out to California to play rock-and-roll music for a living. We’re convinced that nothing will ever become of Neil…true story.
CHFI! Wow, it’s been a long time since I’ve seen/heard mention of that one. Love it.
And that’s a great Neil story. So good. Although I guess he could tell his parents he’s a pretty successful rancher/farmer now too. Haha.
Thanks for sharing!
You bet, they’re all gone now with the exception of Earl Mann, my brother still talks to him almost every week…still gives him a hard time for not playing fantasy football, lol. (Earls’s the voice of NFL Films)
Great theme MD! And you’re a good “old man” for taking the Marmo-lets to see the Neiler. Caught him many a time, starting with… the Rust Never Sleeps tour in ’79. So yeah, I really am an Old Man…
So as always happens at this point in the season, the mudhen is in a bit of a pickle. Only two weeks left in my points league, and while I’ve locked a playoff spot, the top two teams get byes in round one. So high stakes!
Background: SVHD redraft points league, where Wins, Saves, & Holds are all equal to 10 K’s, and QS’s are equal to 6 K’s. So while K’s are nice to have, an SP that goes 6 inning for a W is golden.
My SP’s in this league are:
Woo, Framber, Pivetta, Sonny Gray — these four guys are my stalwarts.
Jacob Lopez, Cade Horton, Miz, Gavin Williams, David Peterson. Sitting in your 50-60 range, they are not easily droppable, although I am waiting on Horton’s blister diagnosis.
Warming the bench for the last 13 weeks is Bubba. A benched pitcher in a points league is like playing one player short. I am losing patience, so is Bubba droppable now?
RP’s are Bryan Abreu and J. Estrada. I could drop Estrada to stream SP’s, except for one minor problem:
On the IL is Bryce Miller. I can’t make any moves without activating Miller, but there is no way I’m starting Miller tonight in Philly.
So there (finally) is my question: If Horton does not hit the IL, would you drop an RP to activate Miller (but bench him tonight), and then drop Bubba to stream? The long game is over, it’s week by week now!
Sorry for the novella. But looking forward to your upcoming Rush-themed article!
I think you’re bang on there. I finally lost my patience with Bubba this week too. Dropped Painter a couple weeks ago in the RCLs and cut Bubba this week to stream open hitter spots.
If you can’t just slide Horton in for Miller at IL, I’d consider cutting Estrada then finally moving on from the Bubbs. It sucks (especially after stashing him for so long) but like you said if it’s week-to-week now, you have to roll with healthy and active bodies.
Rust Never Sleeps would have been awesome to see. My guys had a great time but were nodding off right at the end so we pulled the plug and caught an early Go Train back.
Thanks MD! I don’t see anyone to stream today, so I can wait until tomorrow to see what the Cubs do with Horton’s blister.
I’m glad your boys enjoyed the show — it was a good setlist. The thing about Neil in the old days is that he would often play lots of material from his next new unreleased album, that nobody knew. “Rust” was great, but the third time I saw him we were expecting “Trans”, but he had shifted to country mode, and we got lots of the “Old Ways” album (not a favourite).
Since you missed the encore, search the net for his 1989 debut of “Rockin’ in the Free World” on SNL. The best!
Ya the youngest was a bit sad when I told him that would be the time he ended the night with but both of them were fully cooked by then. When the eldest says “Can we just go home early and skip the encore?” it’s a telltale sign they’re donezo. Ha.
I’m going to show them that ‘89 clip now though!
Thanks for the Chrome Dreams recommendation!
No problem!
Honestly it was a great show!
(Even greater that I didn’t have to carry two sleeping kids out at the end too. Haha!)
What a great column!
I picked up Zebby.
I could have five pitchers on Tuesday
I was going to start these three:
1. Cabrera at home vs STL
2. David Peterson at WAS
3. Rodon at TB
I was going to sit these two:
Lugo at home vs Texas
Kelly on the road at KC
As you appreciate, my view is certainly impacted by my inning situation.
Looking forward to your insights!!!
I think you’re right on track there, Martin.
Rodon could go either way but it’s worth the gamble for the K upside.
I think Peterson is due for a bounceback too.
Good lord–you must have an old soul–
half the songs you mentioned were staples of the band i was in when in high school and college–
Ya a lot of those predate me for sure. I got hooked late high school and early post secondary and haven’t looked back since.
Funny you mention the “old soul” too. My youngest (9) was sitting on my left and there was a nice couple beside him. Lady was probably mid-50s and asked him what he was looking forward to seeing.
“All I want is Keep on Rockin in the Free Word. And maybe Heart of Gold.”
She said, “Oh man. An old soul. I love it.”
Haha!
We get a Rush-themed post next and I might have to change the site to Razzball-eh dot com
I swear to Mo Vaughn (god) my sister’s husband hung out with Rush’s drummer a long time ago when they were younger. The guys were dating two girls who were best friends so they saw each other and talked a few times.
And don’t worry. I draw the line at Celine Dion and/or Bryan Adams. Haha!
Oh boy
Haha