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With these top 100 starters for 2017 fantasy baseball, I’ve finished our (my) 2017 fantasy baseball rankings for positions.  Still coming will be a top 100 overall and top 500 to see how all the positions mesh together like your mesh Redskins jersey that meshes with your burgundy sweatpants.  Trust me, when you see how long this post is, you’ll be glad I kept this intro short.  As always, my projections are included, and where I see tiers starting and stopping.  If you want an explanation of tiers, go back to the top 10 overall and start this shizz all over again.  Anyway, here’s the top 100 starters for 2017 fantasy baseball:

81. Dylan Bundy – This tier started in the top 80 starters for 2017 fantasy baseball.  This tier ends at Triggs.  I called this tier, “Grey’s upside your head.”   It feels like we’ve been waiting forever for Bundy to break out, but he’s not out until you count to five, and, really, he’s barely on two now.  He only has 111 1/3 IP in the majors, and a 8.4 K/9 in that time, and he’s only 24.  If he broke out this season and was good for the next five years, he still wouldn’t be 30 years old.  This is all moot like Helen Keller if he doesn’t break out.  2017 Projections:  11-9/3.91/1.35/130 in 141 IP

82. Luis Severino – There’s no truth that Welcome Back Kotter in Latin American countries dubs Vinnie Barbarino’s name out for Luis Severino.  Fake news!  There is truth that Severino has never pitched for more than 71 IP in a major league season, but he’ll be 23 years old this year and he pitched nearly 151 IP across three levels last year, so he could conceivably pitch 180 IP this year in the majors.  Innings-schminnings!  What about Ks and ERA and that crap?!  Well, he throws 96 MPH and regularly topped 9+ K/9 in the minors.  He could easily break out this year, though that feels about a year away.  2017 Projections:  10-10/3.94/1.34/143 in 155 IP

83. Jharel Cotton – The bad news, he had a 4.90 ERA with a .268 BABIP (not unlucky) in Triple-A for the Dodgers in 97 1/3 IP.  The great news, he pitched extremely well for the A’s in Triple-A (2.82 ERA in 38 1/3 IP) and in the majors (2.15 ERA in 29 1/3 IP).  The best news, right before you draft him, in your draft chatroom you can say, “Wait, it’s a Cotton-picking moment!”  2017 Projections:  7-10/3.72/1.21/141 in 157 IP

84. Trevor Bauer – He doesn’t quite fit in this tier, because I don’t know how much upside he has left.  I mean, he has a 4.42 ERA in 552 1/3 IP in his career.  Cat’s kinda out of the bag, and that cat is feral with foreknowledge of your greatest weaknesses, like hearing the word ‘moist.’  But Bauer is only 26 years old, so maybe there’s something more here.  2017 Projections:  11-12/4.01/1.33/163 in 177 IP

85. Andrew Triggs – The things going for Triggs (Trings?  Thinggs?) are his peripherals last year.  8.8 K/9, 2.1 BB/9, 3.29 xFIP and an over 50% on his ground ball percentage looks like sleeper material waiting to happen.  There’s a few warnings signs on Triggs (Triggser Warnings?).  His fastball only hits 90 MPH, and this all came out of nowhere.  He could be a good Keuchel or he could be an awful Keuchel, but worth the flyer to find out.  2017 Projections:  9-11/3.86/1.25/130 in 144 IP

86. Jose Berrios – Not sure if Berrios’ rookie year could’ve gone much worse.  He ended with a walk rate (5.4) that makes Francisco Liriano blush, and Liriano isn’t particularly bashful, as his awful years show.  “I put the DG in DGAF.”  That’s Liriano.  There’s still lots of upside here with Berrios, but it could be another year away, or at least a half year.  UPDATE:  Won’t make the Twins’ rotation.  Berrios should change his name to “Tyra GIF.”  We were all rooting for you, man.  2017 Projections:  7-10/4.12/1.36/112 in 124 IP

87. Jose De Leon – This is a new tier.  This tier goes from here until Stephenson.  I call this tier, “Your joie de vivre is a contagious rash in the shape of the Indonesian islands.”  I love that you draft the guys in this tier.  They are sexy AF.  Kudos, not the chocolate bar, to your risk-taking, throw-caution-to-the-wind wildness.  I bet you ride a motorcycle, not in the rain though, that’s just crazy.  None of the guys in this tier will likely start the year in their team’s rotations, but in shallow leagues or dynasties, they’re decent enough flyers.  Just know in the shallow leagues, you might need to drop one of them by the end of March.  As for De Leon, already gave you my Jose De Leon fantasy.  It was written before his trade to the Rays, but doesn’t change a lot.  I still don’t see him starting the year with the major league club, and his “good division to pitch in” becomes “Aw, that kinda sucks.”  His stuff still plays wherever and I look forward to grabbing him as soon as he’s promoted to the majors.  2017 Projections:  9-4/3.57/1.18/128 in 135 IP

88. Lucas Giolito – Here’s what I said this offseason, “(Giolito) went the other way in the Eaton trade.  I’ve already gave you my Lucas Giolito fantasy, and 95% of it still holds.  You need to throw out the Dusty Baker hazarai, and the NL East became the AL Central, which isn’t great, but now Giolito has a clearer path to a starter role.  There’s talk he could be in the White Sox rotation out of the gate, but he can’t exactly throw a full season yet, so I picture him being held down until June.”  And that’s me quoting me!  2017 Projections:  5-4/3.67/1.27/97 in 105 IP

89. Scott Kazmir – “Okay, okay, okay!  Skunk skin condoms were a bad idea, as well!  I get it!  But these Dollar Store condoms will be different!  What are they?  Armadillo skin.  What?  No good?”  Kazmir is similar to Nova, he could put it all together and have a huge year in the NL West.  There’s about a hundred reasons why he won’t, but he’s always had the ability.  UPDATE:  He’s already injured, which is lowercase shocking.  2017 Projections:  8-4/3.64/1.23/113 in 122 IP

90. Zack Wheeler – “You were right, is that what you want to hear?  Armadillo skin condoms were an awful idea.  These new ones are great though!  Chameleon skin…Check ’em out.  Wait, did I put it on?”  Hey, if Lance Lynn can be safe, so can Wheeler, right?  The good news, Wheeler’s arm is going to be fresh going into 2017.  The bad news, he hasn’t pitched in the majors since 2014.  UPDATE:  Wheeler’s already complaining of elbow soreness.  Weird from a Mets starter, if weird’s actual meaning was its inverse.  2017 Projections:  5-4/3.89/1.37/88 in 91 IP

91. Eduardo Rodriguez – This tier could’ve also been called, “Oh em gee, (insert pitcher’s name) was just called up!  Who should I drop for him?”  Then a start later, “I guess I should drop (insert recently called-up pitcher’s name), huh?”  Your faith in Ed-Rod breaking out comes down to how little faith you have in Pomeranz or Wright.  In 107 IP last year, Ed-Rod had a 4.71 ERA (decent peripherals though), so even if Ed-Rod pitches, there’s still more question marks than The Riddler’s leotards.  2017 Projections:  7-2/3.92/1.28/88 in 92 IP

92. Archie Bradley – Kinda in the same camp as Dylan Bundy only without a starting job.  That camp is Camp Hopeyougivechubbee.  2017 Projections: 7-5/4.17/1.37/96 in 90 IP

93. Tyler Glasnow – Already gave you my Tyler Glasnow fantasy.  I wrote it while exploring my pointy areas.  2017 Projections:  9-11/3.87/1.39/134 in 125 IP

94. Luke Weaver – Definitely someone I could see taking a flyer on at the end of drafts just on the outside chance Wacha, Leake, Lynn and/or Wainwright don’t make it out of March.  It’s not like that’s a fourfecta (totally a word!) of health.  2017 Projections:  4-2/3.34/1.18/67 in 55 IP

95. Matt Strahm – If his starting rotation spot was guaranteed, I would’ve placed him in the top 80 starters.  This tier, “I like the cut of your jib and breaking pitches, but I don’t think you’re going to start for enough innings to make a huge difference.”   This is also the first tier where I hope I’m wrong and all the guys here get 150+ innings.  As for Strahm, he could have a 10+ K/9 and a measly 2.5 BB/9, but he’s also the first starter where I’m projecting saves too.  2017 Projections:  6-2/2.78/1.08/74, 2 saves in 62 IP

96. Robert Stephenson – Right now, Stephenson has the Reds’ fifth starter job, but there’s a couple of guys that could wrestle it away in the spring:  Cody Reed or Rookie Davis, who I believe is a young Player to be Named Later.  Here’s what Prospector Ralph said this offseason about Stephenson, “Every year on New Year’s Eve my sister and I toast to each year being the year Pitbull disappears into obscurity. This is the way I feel about Stephenson’s prospect status. I’m sick of writing about him. He’s gone from universally a top 30 prospect to a player who looks destined for major league mediocrity. The stuff isn’t, and never has been, an issue. He mixes a nasty fastball that can touch the upper 90’s (even if he’s lost a little velocity over the past few seasons), with an above average curve, and a plus changeup that he’s refined into his best secondary offering. This all sounds great no? Yeah, until you realize Stephenson has no idea where he’s throwing, which is why homeboy is rocking a 4.2 BB/9 over 123 minor league starts. I’ve often said I feel Stephenson could one day be an elite bullpen piece, but the Reds will keep him in the rotation for now.”  I just skimmed, but his sister is Eve?  That’s rad!  2017 Projections:  7-11/4.34/1.44/97 in 109 IP

97. Clay Buchholz – This is a new tier.  This tier goes from here until Tomlin.  I call this tier, “Now I see why you wear only sweatpants.”  By this tier name I mean, you draft these guys and you’ve given up on life.  This tier is more attractive in deep leagues, like AL and NL-Only ones, where you need innings.  As for Buchholz, here’s what I said this offseason, “The Phils have a game plan, and it looks a something like this:  trade and/or sign washed-out AL East starters.  Worked last year with Jeremy Hellickson, and now they’ve traded for Clay Buchholz.  This is the first trade where I can declaratively state both teams won and I don’t even know who Josh Tobias is, the infielder the Phils sent to the Red Sox.  Yes, I used declaratively.  Watch out, reading comprehension!  The Sox needed Buchholz off their team because they have a set rotation without him, and the NL East is about as good a landing place can be, even if Citizens Flank is slightly offensive-minded, and I don’t just mean the insults that rain down from the stands.  “The only time the Phils ever strung three W’s together is with their website.”  That’s a Philly fan.  Buchholz looks to be in possession of all his pitches that he had when he had a 3.30 xFIP in 2015.  Of course, those pitches couldn’t have looked more pear-shaped than last year with his 5.32 xFIP.  Honestly, I think he could be anywhere from a 3.50 ERA pitcher to a 4.50 ERA one.  Is he a mixed league starter?  Maybe as a streamer, or if he starts off well, but, as they say in horse racing, not out of the gate.  For NL-Only, I’m going to like him as a late-round flyer.”  And that’s me quoting me!  2017 Projections:  8-10/4.07/1.31/117 in 145 IP

98. Sonny Gray – There’s no truth to the idea that I can’t like Sonny Gray just because of a frayed father-son relationship.  Haters and the media have been misreporting this.  Sad!  Last year, when everyone else was saying to draft him, I told you to avoid him.  This year I’m saying avoid him, but I have no more animosity for my boy.  Now, there’s just apathy, which might be worst.  A complete lack of “I care.”  He could bounce back but it won’t be on my teams.  The upside isn’t great enough for the risk.  UPDATE:  Out three weeks in the spring due to a strained lat.  That’s an odd thing to find in one’s colander.  Gray will miss Opening Day.  I WILL?!  Oh, this Gray, yeah, who cares.  2017 Projections:  8-10/4.03/1.32/127 in 160 IP

99. Drew Smyly – As I said after the Mariners’ trade of Mallex Smith for Smyly:

As for Smyly, home runs are up across baseball, this is partially due to Drew Smyly.  Not only did Smyly give up 32 homers in 175 1/3 IP last year, but he also toured the Costa Rican baseball factory and told the 14-year-old girls on the line to stop wrapping SuperBalls in stitches.  This was according to a Frontline report on PBS.  Smyly wasn’t hit that hard last year, so I’m guessing his homers will come down a bit and he’ll regain his surprisingly useful tag vs. spectacularly awful.  UPDATE:  Out for six to eight weeks with a flexor strain.  This flexor strain thing feels like the new oblique, doesn’t it?  Obliques are out, groin pulls 15 minutes ago, flexor strains are in.  That’s the Jessica Shaw Report.  If you get the Jessica Shaw Report joke, you’re old and gay.  Okay, maybe you’re not old.  By the way, if I had to choose between old or gay, well, let’s just say getting old sucks!  2017 Projections:  7-5/4.14/1.27/124 in 130 IP

100. Anthony DeSclafani –  I should’ve named this tier — 7+ K/9, 2+ BB/9, could have a 3.20 ERA to a 3.80 ERA.  A lot of these guys are going to come down to how well the ball bounces for them.  Or how well the ball bounces when someone’s on base and Brandon Phillips misses a grounder right at him because he’s on the phone with his agent telling him to decline a trade offer.  That might be too specific and only applicable for DeSclafani.  UPDATE:  Two MRIs + one elbow = Pork fried rice.  Okay, math’s off there, but I’m not drafting him.  2017 Projections:  7-9/3.98/1.28/112 in 145 IP

101. Miguel Gonzalez – He has a career ERA of 3.80 in 118 games started, and if you hold him for longer than one game streams, you have more patience than me.  Is patience a category in your league?  If so, do you say, I love what he’s Slash’ing on Patience?  2017 Projections:  7-13/3.95/1.31/110 in 162 IP

102. Zach Davies – Lower the volume on your headset when J.B. grills me on my Davies’ ranking, there’s liable to be some high-powered screeching.  Davies throws 89 MPH and has a 7 K/9, so, yeah, I have no idea what’s to like, except for NL-Only leagues where you just want innings eaters that won’t absolutely kill you (only partially maim you).  2017 Projections:  10-12/4.08/1.29/142 in 176 IP

103. Junior Guerra –  He didn’t get a real chance to pitch in the majors until he was 31 years old, so there’s nothing Junior about Guerra.  Waiting that long to pitch in the majors is a relatively rare scenario.  He’s like a Latin Satchel Paige, I will call him Satchel Biblioteca.  Bleh.  In the story of his life, Guerra would be played by a Latin Dennis Quaid, so call him Jimmy Smits?  Meh.  How about Junior Smits?  Yes!  Junior Smits doesn’t have as many miles on his arm as other 32-year-olds will this year, but his fresh-off-the-lot arm still isn’t that tremendous, he’s basically a real world fifth starter who was lucky last year to have a 2.81 ERA.  2017 Projections:  11-9/3.97/1.33/132 in 154 IP

104. R.A. Dickey – Here’s what I said this offseason, “(Dickey) signed one-year deal with the Braves.  In honor of the Braves signing R.A. Dickey, during his starts, Braves fans should tomahawk with a cock and balls.  When this signing first went down, Prospector Ralph mentioned how we should pre-order the new book, “Cox to Dickey: The History of the Atlanta Braves.”  And that’s me quoting me quoting Ralph!  2017 Projections:  9-13/3.86/1.33/158 in 205 IP

105. Bartolo Colon – Here’s what I said this offseason, “(Colon) also signed with Atlanta.  Dickey/Colon sounds like an after-shower spray Lorenzo Lamas and The Situation would endorse.”  And that’s me quoting me!  2017 Projections:  10-12/3.92/1.23/122 in 187 IP

106. Matt Andriese – Fun fact!  In Italy, when trying on clothes, you do it in Andriese room.  With the trade of Smyly, Andriese moved into the rotation.   He’s the most average starter you can find.  He’s so ‘neither here nor there’ he’s nowhere.  If you put ‘Andriese’ into Waze, you get no directions.  Go ahead, try it!  2017 Projections:  8-12/3.91/1.28/132 in 162 IP

107. Tyler Chatwood – Fun fact, Part 2!  A Tyler Chatwood is porn for a woman that can tie a penis into a knot with her mouth like a cherry stem.  Maybe I was still on a high from ranking Jon Gray in the top 40 starters, but I thought for sure I was going to rank Chatwood much higher than this.  While his ground balls are interesting in Coors, he just doesn’t strike out enough guys to move my needle.  Definitely not to move it into a knot.  2017 Projections:  10-12/4.12/1.35/132 in 180 IP

108. Tom Koehler – His command really went into the crapper last year, which makes sense for a guy named Koehler.  2017 Projections:  8-11/4.28/1.39/149 in 187 IP

109. Edinson Volquez – Here’s what I said this offseason, “Signed with the Marlins. Rather than trying to find someone with electric stuff to replace Jo-Fer, they just went with someone whose name sounds related to electricity.”  And that’s me quoting me!  2017 Projections: 11-12/4.04/1.33/142 in 185 IP

110. Jesse Chavez –  Here’s what I said this offseason, “Signed with the Angels.  I’ve liked Chavez for a few seasons, and every year he’s in a rotation in the preseason then in the bullpen come April.  If he’s still in the rotation come February, I’ll project him then, for now I’ll say, the Angels should give him a rotation spot.”  That’s me copying and pasting me!  So, here we are in February and Chavez still has a rotation job, so… 2017 Projections:  6-9/4.12/1.32/108 in 115 IP

111. Mike Leake – I imagine lots of fantasy baseballers (<–my mom’s term!) screaming this guy’s name this season, only not for good but for, “Why is Mike Leake in the rotation and not Alex Reyes?!”  2017 Projections:  10-11/4.23/1.30/118 in 165 IP

112. Wei-Yin Chen – He had a 5+ ERA in September and an elbow sprain last year.  When I was looking at Wei-Yin, he kept dropping in my rankings and I’m pretty sure no one had a thumb on the scale.  2017 Projections:  9-11/4.21/1.26/125 in 156 IP

113. Steven Wright – I’m trying to figure out who will replace Steven Wright in July in the Red Sox rotation.  Ian Kennedy?  Matt Moore?  Tyson Ross?  Eduardo Rodriguez?  Lenny Clarke?  2017 Projections: 10-6/4.27/1.32/112 in 142 IP

114. Josh Tomlin – Love the barely 1 BB/9 — he only walked 20 guys in 174 IP!   Less exciting is just about everything else.  Occasionally, I’ll come across guys who I’d like to face, and Tomlin, with his 87 MPH fastball, is one of them.  Ooh!  All-Star Game weekend idea!  They should have a lottery for fans to see who gets to face Tomlin.  Then they can mark off the field into different sections.  Get the ball out of the infield and win a car, get the ball to outfielder depth and win a house, hit a home run and win a million dollars.  Tell me you wouldn’t watch this.  2017 Projections:  11-12/4.23/1.22/103 in 165 IP

115. Dan Straily –  This is a new tier.  This tier goes from here until Gibson.  I call this tier, “Apollo Creed in Rocky IV.”  By this tier name I mean, there’s a chance with these pitchers to get two hundred of the worst innings you’ve ever seen.  In deep leagues, innings are good, but lots of terrible innings is, ya know, not so good.  As for Straily, there’s a recipe for a terrible pitcher that even a home cook can follow.  Combine a terrible pitcher with regression and wait until the mixture starts to smell like fromunda cheese.  Is it surprising that the Marlins traded for Straily?  When you see most people project him for a 4.70+ ERA, no, it’s not surprising.  At some point, peripherals and FIP and other goodies that have been around since the 1990s will make their way to the Marlins.  2017 Projections: 9-14/4.38/1.38/158 in 190 IP

116. Brandon Finnegan – What’s that?  You’re thinking of streaming hitters vs. the Reds?  Great idea, prematurely balding man!  2017 Projections:  9-13/4.43/1.40/167 in 188 IP

117. Jordan Zimmermann – He’s been receiving neck injections this offseason to curb pain he suffered from last year and, “He’s feeling good right now,” said GM Al Avila.  Al Avila then said, “I’m not his catcher too.  I know, that’s confusing.”  2017 Projections:  10-13/4.11/1.27/110 in 170 IP

118. Mike Fiers – If you and your co-manager (God?) somehow end up drafting this guy, I’d be singing, “We didn’t start the Fiers.”  2017 Projections:  10-11/4.22/1.32/141 in 176 IP

119. Homer Bailey – Perfect guy for this tier, because this tier is an Odyssey.  As in, people quickly realize it was a total waste of time to read.  2017 Projections: 9-14/4.40/1.35/134 in 164 IP

120. Hector Santiago – I could see streaming some of the guys in this tier when the matchup is right.  And then totally regretting that decision.  2017 Projections:  11-9/4.66/1.39/137 in 177 IP

121. Shelby Miller – This tier is typified by the feeling, “I own this pitcher and I wish his team would bump him from the rotation.”  2017 Projections: 7-10/4.24/1.39/105 in 130 IP

122. Martin Perez – “Should I start Martin Perez in a weekly league or middle reliever Joe Blanton?”  “Blanton if you want more Ks.”  “Oops, Blanton was just moved to the DL.”  “I’d still go with Blanton.”  2017 Projections:  11-8/4.21/1.40/101 in 187 IP

123. Francisco Liriano – The King of Holy Crap I Left Him In My Weekly League Lineup, assuming Holy Crap I Left Him In My Weekly League Lineup were a monarchy.  2017 Projections:  9-15/4.59/1.45/154 in 148 IP

124. Jhoulys Chacin – Here what I said this offseason, “(Chacin) was signed by the Padres to a one-year $1.75 million contract.  I wonder if Padres will now go out and find a hitter for under $2 million too.  Say, Mark Trumbo for a week or maybe Yanique Solarte, Yangervis’ brother who works as a drag queen in Key West.”  And that’s me quoting me!  It’s effin’ pathetic the Padres best pitcher is Chacin.  With Petco, all they needed to do was get a pitcher of, say, Colon’s caliber.  Instead, they have the caliber bullet of a turd coming out of a colon.  I also won’t buy into the “Petco is a hitters’ park” narrative until the Padres have one decent pitcher.  2017 Projections:  7-12/4.27/1.41/137 in 167 IP

125. Hyun-Jin Ryu – The Dodgers’ GM said Ryu will be in the rotation as their number three starter if his shoulder, groin, elbow, mid-back, lower back, upper back, neck, hand, foot, have I mentioned elbow, leg, torso, ankle, hamstring, oblique, butt cheek injuries are all healed.  Through a translator, Ryu said, “I feel great.”  The translator admitted later it was hard to verify Ryu’s words because Ryu was wearing a body cast.  2017 Projections:  4-2/4.49/1.34/77 in 97 IP

126. Patrick Corbin – Could have some Tyler Skaggs-type, two years removed from surgery resurgence, but his previous year was so egregious, with so few signs of anything, I’m going to reserve judgment on Corbin, but not draft him as a reserve.  2017 Projections:  8-8/4.34/1.42/146 in 162 IP

127. Kyle Gibson – How many innings would Gibson pitch for the Cubs?  35?  Too many?  How about for a 2nd tier team with playoff aspirations, say, the Astros?  65 IP?  On the Twins, Gibson has averaged 174 IP in the last three years and has a 4.59 career ERA, and a 5.07 ERA last year.  Your parity is a parody.  2017 Projections:  7-12/4.34/1.44/123 in 184 IP

128. Tyson Ross – This is a new tier.  This tier goes from here until Musgrove.  I call this tier, “Odds and near-the-ends.”  These guys are all long relievers, high risk gambles and 5th starter candidates.  As for Ross, the Rangers took a chance on him, signing him, after he had surgery to deal with thoracic outlet syndrome, which sounds like something that would affect the protagonist in The Metamorphosis.  I’m not so sure that the Rangers will be rewarded for taking a chance on him.  As Jon Niese learned the hard way, don’t stick your nose out for anyone!  2017 Projections:  6-6/3.81/1.35/93 in 102 IP

129. Garrett Richards – He had a tear of his UCL, which usually means Tommy John surgery, but rather than having the surgery, because, ya know, who the f*ck is Tommy John to tell me what to do?  Richards had a stem cell procedure instead, where an individual’s fat or marrow is injected into the injured area.  I love marrow, so that sounds delicious!  If Richards can come back this year, he won’t pitch anywhere near 170 IP, but other pitchers may be lining up to try this procedure over Tommy John.  The nickels Tommy John gets for every time someone has the surgery may quickly dry up.  I want Garrett Richards to succeed if for no other reason than because I’m sick of talking about Tommy John surgery.  I wanna talk about Garrett Richards’ Non-Evasive Procedure.  That just rolls off the tongue!  You know what else rolls off the tongue?  Stem cells.  As for fantasy, you’re crazy if you think I’m drafting Richards.  Not to be all Jenny McCarthy here, but I wanna see how Richards does before I believe in the injections.  2017 Projections:  5-7/3.78/1.37/87 in 95 IP

130. Chad Green – This might be the first starter I’m ranking that has a better chance of getting five wins as a reliever than five wins as a starter.  Right now, he’s in the Yanks’ rotation, but Luis “The Plane” Cessa could just as easily take over that role with Green moving into relief.  More than likely they’ll split time in the pen and the rotation.  2017 Projections:  5-6/3.34/1.23/91 in 87 IP

131. Matt Wisler – I owned Wisler last year and remembered enjoying it, then I saw he had a 5.00 ERA last year and it goes to show you how fallible even the most mustachioed of memory can be.  Did he even have one good start?  Why the eff did I own this schmohawk?  Oy gevalt!    2017 Projections:  5-7/4.24/1.31/86 in 102 IP

132. Jesse Hahn – Feels like the stereotypical prospect get by Beane in the last fifteen years.  Looks to have promise, bounces around the majors and minors and then ends up on another team or in Japan.  There should be an asterisk at the end of Moneyball with a five chapter explanation of how Beane went on to make fifteen years of terrible moves that disproves the entire preceding book.  2017 Projections:  4-5/4.31/1.41/64 in 98 IP

133. Nate Karns – As sorta mentioned in the Strahm blurb above, Karns is prolly more of a reliever.  Karns has had his chain yanked repeatedly, and gone from a ~150 IP season to a reliever season more times than he should’ve considering his stuff.  That still doesn’t mean it won’t continue to happen and, as of right now, Karns is projected for less than 100 innings everywhere I look, and that’s even after the untimely death of Yordano.  2017 Projections:  5-2/3.71/1.30/94 in 90 IP

134. Ariel Miranda – The difference between Ariel Miranda, and, say, Doug Fister?  Ariel is younger.  Ariel and a Fister does remind me of this Little Mermaid-inspired film I saw once.  *thinking back*  What were those mermen doing?  *shudders*  2017 Projections:  4-3/4.17/1.30/71 in 98 IP

135. Joe Musgrove – If the Astros have any balls, they’ll give the 5th starter job to Musgrove over Charlie Morton.  Though, if they start with Morton, they will lose balls over the fence, so they won’t have any balls for Musgrove.  What a quagmire!  2017 Projections:  5-6/3.65/1.18/65 in 72 IP

136. Wade Miley – This is the last tier.  This tier goes form here until the end of the list.  I call this tier, “If the starters rankings are zaftig, these are the cankles.”  This tier is guys that supposedly have starter jobs, but you should be streaming hitters against them.  As for Miley, he’s actually the 4th best Orioles starter and that’s after getting rid of Yovani Gallardo.  In related news, the Orioles need Dylan Bundy to pitch 220 IP of 2.75 ERA ball.  2017 Projections:  8-12/4.76/1.40/122 in 158 IP

137. Adam Wainwright – Last year, Wainwright called into a fantasy radio show to say he thought he was drafted too late, unhappy about going after Jon Lester.  Well, if Wainwright can’t pitch in real baseball anymore, and he’s obviously no good at fantasy baseball, what’s next for him?  Golf perhaps?  2017 Projections:  10-12/4.45/1.38/132 in 171 IP

138. Chad Kuhl – Has the lead for a spot in the Pirates’ rotation.  As a yinzer Fonzie would say, Kuhl.  2017 Projections:  9-12/4.16/1.35/107 in 152 IP

139. Steven Brault – The other Pirates’ starter with a rotation job, though he could make way for Glasnow…or Wade LeBlanc…or Drew Hutchison…or someone who wins a contest held by the Pirates to fill-in a rotation spot while they obviously hold off promoting Glasnow.  2017 Projections: 7-9/4.34/1.42/119 in 135 IP

140. Matt Cain –  I could’ve also listed here Chase “From The Game” Anderson, “B.C.C.” Sabathia, U-be-so-bad-o Jimenez, Derek “Kicked in the Nethers-land” Holland, James “We’re Gonna Need Bigger” Shields, Anibal “Gender Neutral” Sanchez, Charlie “Salt In The Wounds” Morton, Jason “We’re Out Of” Vargas, Kendall “One Foot In The” Graveman, Ricky “Both Feet In The Grave, Man” Nolasco, Phil “Loses” Hughes, Yovani “YoGa Is So Stressful” Gallardo, Andrew “Cashed Out” Cashner, Tyler “Not Chatwood” Anderson and Brett “Remote Control” Oberholtzer.  They’re all rosterable in insanely deep leagues, and I feel bad for you if you have to go there.  2017 Projections:  Bleh/Burp/Belch/Gas in Farts

   
  1. Ante GALIC says:
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    Grey!

    This is a really great post! Well thought out and thoroughly enjoyed reading.

    a. I love pick #140!!! I don’t see Brett “Broke’ back” Anderson anywhere? Just curious but he’d be there too right?

    b. There are some good picks to be had here for sure, but risk has been increased by a factor of 10 compared to the top 80 pitchers!! I like Buchholz from this category but only after June 1 when the temperature heats up, his back is not as cranky and he can then effectively pitch his splitter which is his bread-n-butter pitch.

    c. Watched the beginning of Black Mirror Season 3, episode 1 entitled ‘Nosedive’! Unreal TV series and I just started watching one part of one episode.

    d. Also started watching the beginning of The Line of Duty Season 3, episode 1. Awesome already too! Many thanks for the advice.

    Cheers,
    Ante

    • Grey

      Grey says:
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      @Ante GALIC: Thanks! A. He would, yeah B. Yeah, he could be okay, but you wouldn’t draft him to find out C. The episodes aren’t in order, but why’d you start from season 3? D. Season 3 too? Dude, start at season 1

      • Ante GALIC says:
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        @Grey: Grey!

        a. Thanks, man! Am aware but the most recent stuff (aka season 3 on both) is what’s been most recently uploaded ergo the fastest to download!! I’m downloading the others but they are slow! And as I mentioned, just watched like a snippet of both (less than 4 minutes each).

        b. That said, Black Mirror episodes are all stand-alone. There are no recurring actors/actresses and no recurring themes. So I don’t see the harm in watching Black Mirror out of sequence. The Line of Duty for sure!

        Cheers,
        Ante

        • Grey

          Grey says:
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          A. Ah, gotcha…. B. Yeah, Black Mirror is fine from whatever episode you want, but you should watch Line of Duty from season 1

          • Ante GALIC says:
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            @Grey: Grey!

            Okay, am waiting for it to cook. It’s taking a while as you can imagine here in Chad!!!

            Cheers,
            Ante

            • Grey

              Grey says:
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              4 minutes? You got a while!

              • Ante GALIC says:
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                @Grey: Grey!

                Be nice, more like 4444 minutes. Actually, downloaded the recent SNL episode with Kristen Stewart hosting in just over an hour, plus I have broken Chadian downloading speeds – in excess of 608 kb/s. That is pretty fast.

                Cheers,
                Ante

                • Grey

                  Grey says:
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                  SNL’s not worth downloading… You should just watch McCarthy’s Spicer on Youtube and be done with it

                  • Ante GALIC says:
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                    @Grey: Grey!

                    That’s what all my friends have said about the Spicer bit. It doesn’t cost me anything to download, so no biggie.

                    Cheers,
                    Ante

                    • Grey

                      Grey says:
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                      Costs you time, you should just watch that one bit

      • Robert says:
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        @Grey: The black mirror thing is because Netflix actually puts episode one from season 3 as the first episode you see when you click on the series. I didn’t realize it until after I finished that one and found out it was moving me to season 3 episode 2.

        Why Netflix? Why would you default to season 3 and not 1-1 like every other series…

        • Grey

          Grey says:
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          I’m guessing it’s b/c Netflix produced the 3rd season and not the 1st two

  2. Ldbowe10 says:
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    Hey grey need help selecting my final keeper. I’m keeping machado-5th rd and story-20th rd. I can keep Stanton-2nd rd, Franco -3rd rd, Hendricks- 14th rd, segura-16th rd, or Travis- 21rd.

  3. LenFuego says:
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    I appreciate the deep dive, Grey, since our league goes deep with giant rosters (until this season there was no use of a waiver wire, so you needed enough roster spots to cover you until a July supplemental draft). The only starter I expected to see here somewhere that I do not see among your rankings is Ervin Santana.

    • Grey

      Grey says:
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      @LenFuego: No problem… I guess I could’ve put Ervin in there, but he would’ve been in the last third of this list, so there’s not much there… Around a 4.20 ERA, 7 K/9

  4. David says:
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    In a standard keeper league, can only keep 2. Which one of these 3 do I drop: Scherzer, Salazar or Urias? Thanks

  5. Packers says:
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    Great post. You made me smile especially in the Chatwood,Koehler, Volquez blurbs. Also #140.

  6. Rufus Xavier Sasparilla says:
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    Thanks for all the hard work, Grey! Much appreciated. I’m looking forward to your top 40 relief pitchers.

    A question for dynasty H2H, 16 team league. Should I trade away McCutchen for Lamb and Edwin Diaz. I need a closer, so it’s useful. If it’s not enough, what if the offer includes a first round draft pick as well?

    Thanks!

  7. Dodger Rabbit says:
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    Your lede mentioned that this post concludes rankings. Does that mean you won’t be posting RP projections for 2017?

    Nothing against Smokey’s Closer Chart, but it has none.

  8. Frank says:
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    I read the twice and couldn’t find Tyler Anderson? And yes, I am a senior citizen. Please help me.

    • Sweatpants Nation says:
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      @Frank: Look at #140 again

  9. Ron says:
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    Hi Grey, great post as always. You mention you are moving on to the top 100. No top 30 closers commentary/post? That is probably the area of most need for advice.

    • Cram It says:
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      @Ron: I think Smokey’s Closer Chart post alluded to him doing closer rankings, just not this early before the season.

    • Fungazi says:
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      @Ron: That rank would change 60 times before the end of March.

    • Grey

      Grey says:
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      @Ron: Smokey does closers… I have closers projected and ranked in my top 100/500

  10. G says:
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    Hey Grey,

    In my H2H keeper I have a great start with my 4 keepers being Machado, Arenado, Correa, and Turner. I have my first 4 round picks before Machado as my 5th rounder. And then I have picks for rounds 7 and 8, before my other three keepers who are in round 9, 10, 11.

    My question is about strategy for my first 2 picks with the 11th and 14th overall picks. Looking quickly at your rankings the guys who will likely be available to me are Marte, Freeman, Encarnacion, and at least one of Sherzer, Madbum, Sale. About 11 of your top 20 SPs are being kept and about half of your top 40 SPs are also being kept.

    So for my first two picks do you I suggest I go Hitter/SP or Hitter/Hitter. If I go the first route I would likely go Hitter/SP again with my 3rd and 4th picks. Second route, would prob have to go with two SPs. Worried that pitching may get thin if I don’t take an SP until round 3. Thanks for your feedback as always.

    • Grey

      Grey says:
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      @G: How many teams?

      • G says:
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        @Grey:
        12 teams

    • Grey

      Grey says:
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      @G: SP/Hitter

  11. dude says:
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    Do you see any pitchers that could move up into top 20 or top 40 for 2018?

    • Grey

      Grey says:
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      @dude: Norris and De Leon tier

  12. Jason Eldred says:
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    I just finished a slow draft in a 16 team league. Relatively new to fantasy baseball but I have too many guys in the tier after pitcher #100 ha. deGrom, Carrasco, Snell, Descalfani, Finnegan, Chen, Shelby Miller, Berrios, and Jake Thompson. We track saves and holds and I have Watson, Ramos, Neris, and Thornburg Manning the RP slots. Start 5 SP/2 RP. Is this staff too weak/volatile to compete? My hitting is solid.

    In a separate 16 team 5 player keeper, I took over a team with poor keepers and a team that lacks picks in rounds 4 and 5. Keeping Yelich, Desmond, Lindor, deGrom, and either McCullers or Brad Miller (like I said, it was a bad team). I own Moncada but put him on the block to see what that would fetch me…Was offered Albie’s, pick 1.10, and a Rd 9 pick. Enough to sell Moncada for?

    • Jason Eldred says:
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      @Jason Eldred: I forgot to mention he has other prospects I like such as Espinoza, Fevers, and Moniak or I can see if he’d throw in an MLB pitcher (he has Gerrit Cole or Odorizzi as pieces I dig). Lastly, he’s been trying to ship off Cabo for weeks, so I’m sure he’s cheaper than usual.

    • Grey

      Grey says:
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      @Jason Eldred: I would’ve liked to see a 16 team league pitching staff be a little safer… You have no real safe guys except Carrasco… Hold Moncada

      • Jason Eldred says:
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        @Grey: Thank you for the reply. In regards to the weak staff in the 1st league I mentioned, I have some prospects people want, and may sell them for some higher floor pitch. As for Moncada, I’m struggling with his actual value. Here’s to hoping that k rate doesn’t get him! Thanks for your insight and rankings.

        • Grey

          Grey says:
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          No problem

  13. nick the dick says:
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    Deep league…would you take Matt Cain or a steak, egg and cheese bagel from McDonald’s? They have almost exactly the same projections but you can get breakfast all day now so could get the bagel even later.

    • Dr. Kenneth Noisewater says:
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      @nick the dick: Bacon, egg, and cheese biscuit all day! I know they’re projected to literally shit the bed but I’m high on them.

      • nick the dick says:
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        @Dr. Kenneth Noisewater: I can get up, come on, get down with the biscuit…if I have room to blahtoon it with Hash Brown

        • Dr. Kenneth Noisewater says:
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          @nick the dick: Ha. You wanted to get all Dursty there and get down with the Bizkit. Don’t lie.

      • Dwayne Hoover says:
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        @Dr. Kenneth Noisewater: youse sure that name isn’t a vonnegut character?

        “SERIOUS DELIRIUM BILL MURRAY!”

        • Dr. Kenneth Noisewater says:
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          @Dwayne Hoover: Serious delirium

          • Wayne Hoobler says:
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            @Dr. Kenneth Noisewater: this seems like somewhere i should show up as well.

            • Grey

              Grey says:
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              Ha

            • Dr. Kenneth Noisewater says:
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              Man, neither name nor gravatar are secrets anymore.

              • Grey

                Grey says:
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                You didn’t think they were secrets until yesterday!

                • Dr. Kenneth Noisewater says:
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                  @Grey: Haha, very true. I didn’t know if anyone could even see the RZA back there. I’d have know idea if I hadn’t seen it before.

                  • Grey

                    Grey says:
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                    Yeah, knew your avatar, didn’t love that movie though

                    • Dwayne Hoover says:
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                      @Grey: much easier for those who do like the movie, or at least about maybe 6 parts of it.

                    • Grey

                      Grey says:
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                      Yeah, I don’t like Jarmusch at all

                    • Dr. Kenneth Noisewater says:
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                      @Grey: Yeah, I didn’t love it either, but I’m all about a picture that has both Bill Murray and the RZA.

                    • Grey

                      Grey says:
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                      Oh hells yeah… All winter I’ve been wearing a sweatshirt with Murray’s face on it (no lie)

                    • Dr. Kenneth Noisewater says:
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                      @Grey: I always wanted the shirt with him wearing 3D glasses.

                    • Grey

                      Grey says:
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                      The sweatshirt I got I bought from some random store in SF and it’s totally unlicensed… It’s an artist rendering of him… I also have one of myself (no lie)

                    • Dr. Kenneth Noisewater says:
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                      @Grey: Haha! That’s awesome.

                    • Grey

                      Grey says:
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                      It’s fun to see people try to piece together who is on my sweatshirt until they realize it’s me

    • Grey

      Grey says:
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      @nick the dick: I’d go Cain there, steak, egg and cheese won’t get you the gas like Cain b/c you can’t keep it down

  14. Aubrey Plaza's Pillow says:
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    you know what also actually works for warts (2 for 2 on the times i’ve had them), those home remedies that have you use a small piece of duck tape, and or duct tape and the outer part of a lemon, the lack of oxygen and citric acid tell the body that something’s going on at the spot of the wart, and over a period of less than a month usually the wart slowly dies and literally you just nail file the thing off, no pain, and free. just gotta change the tape/lemon a few times a day.

    anyhoo, in that same 20 teamer, would you do either of hammel or cobb for napoli (dynasty, am TEX, need at all times 9 or more TEX players, have 9 now but would rather be able to move choo at some point due to having all of stanton (RF), dahl (LF/CF), blackman (CF), mazouza (LF/RF), odubel (CF) and choo (RF, probably gets LF at some point) and can only play at most 4 of them at a time. of course choo/stanton might end of playing the games of less than 1 whole player, like most years.

    • Aubrey Plaza's Pillow says:
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      @Aubrey Plaza’s Pillow: and the piece of lemon isn’t large, just the size of the wart.

      • Grey

        Grey says:
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        BTW, we realized why you’ve been going into moderation every time… The apostrophe in your name is hanging up the system for some reason, looking into it

        • Aubrey Plaza's Pillow says:
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          @Grey: weird on the apostrophe thing. also with the lemon/tape deal, no chance of scarring or pain at all. that scarring isn’t a likely occurrence of course.

          • Grey

            Grey says:
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            Yeah, not sure

    • Grey

      Grey says:
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      @Aubrey Plaza’s Pillow: Tape/lemon definitely would’ve been cheaper than J. Lo’s doc…. Hammel if you need SP over 1B… They’re equal in value

  15. Me says:
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    You guys skipped over Bryce Harper on the podcast yesterday, I was curious to hear more of your thoughts on him. I know where you have him ranked, but you also acknowledged he could be a top two pick next year. So would it be crazy to draft him over players like Machado, Arenado, or Bryant?

    I know he’s not as “safe” as your top 7 hitters, but he’s one of a few that I could see finishing #1 overall.

    • Grey

      Grey says:
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      @Me: It would be crazy, b/c those guys could be top 2 and they were actually good last year

  16. cheez whit says:
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    Deep keeper league…who in this 80+ range do you think is the best bet to make the jump to top 20 starter next season. I usually go heavy on two starters and then select $1 young guys with upside.

    • Cram It says:
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      @cheez whit: Giolito, thought I’m surprised he isn’t owned already in a deep keeper.

  17. Lincecuminmypants says:
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    Need some help picking 7 keepers from the following (cost correlates to loss of pick in that draft round, free agent/farm guys = 15th rounders):

    Miguel Cabrera – 1st
    Paul Goldschmidt- 1st
    Gregory Polanco – 4th
    Gerrit Cole – 5th
    Matt Harvey – 7th
    Anthony Rendon – 11th
    Kenta Maeda – 13th
    Logan Forsythe – 15th
    Jose Ramirez – 15th
    Carlos Rodon – 15th
    Noah Syndergaard – 15th
    Jameson Taillon – 15th
    Yasmany Tomas – 15th
    Aaron Nola – 16th
    Nomar Mazara – 19th

    Figure I can go with the three studs of Miggy, Goldy and Thor and take fliers on the others. Here’s who I’m leaning toward, but I’m having second thoughts about leaving out Polanco. Suggestions?

    Miguel Cabrera – 1st
    Paul Goldschmidt- 1st
    Anthony Rendon – 11th
    Kenta Maeda – 13th
    Noah Syndergaard – 15th
    Aaron Nola – 16th
    Nomar Mazara – 19th

    Thanks!

      • Lincecuminmypants says:
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        @Grey: Whoa! 7 for 7! ak about praise from Caesar!

        • Grey

          Grey says:
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          All hail the salad!

    • The Great Knoche says:
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      @Cram It: Not touching him. 450 Innings pitched in majors and xFIP has been just under 4 every year, along with maintaining his minors K rates. He is what he is. I just don’t see it coming.

      • Cram It says:
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        @The Great Knoche: Well you’re the first to agree with me. You missed the back and forth regarding him yesterday.

        • The Great Knoche says:
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          @Cram It: I am usually the odd one out. I dont like the fact that he’s been the same every year in the majors and while the K rate has ticked up slightly every year nothing else screams BREAKOUT COMING! Plus AL East…No Thanks.

      • Grey

        Grey says:
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        @The Great Knoche: Nah, the O’s yanked his chain for a while… When they finally let him pitch last year he started to come into his own…

        • The Great Knoche says:
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          @Grey: Only thing that changed was he used Slider more. Got a few more swings chasing, and Swinging strike percentage has always been in the elite range. Still think he’s Popeye.

          • Grey

            Grey says:
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            Obvious narrative says this is the year he breaks out… Never saw Cram’s article links before, but doesn’t shock me…

            • Big Odio says:
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              @Grey: thank you for pointing out the chain yanking. O’s can’t handle a prospect arm to save their lives. Why do people so easily forget when pitchers get jerked around.

              • Grey

                Grey says:
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                Not quite as bad as the M’s who just trade away all their young arms after F-Her

                • Big Odio says:
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                  @Grey: he should change his last name to useful so they can call him F-Us

                  • Grey

                    Grey says:
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                    HA!

              • Cram It says:
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                @Big Odio: Yes, that he’s an O has lot to do with me not liking him. They don’t know how to develop/handle pitchers.

                • Big Odio says:
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                  @Cram It: sky used to post some harsh anti O’s pitching development comments. Funny how nothing changes

                  • Beware the Shit Rope says:
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                    @Big Odio: yeah, cause it’s like 6 or so guys who were quite highly ranked prospects in maybe 8 years that all were either completely garbage (matusz) or certainly were till they left BAL (arrieta)

                    • Cram It says:
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                      @Beware the Shit Rope: John Maine, Hayden Penn, Daniel Cabrera, Adam Loewen…Cabrera sticks out. There’s no way they could rein in a fiery Dominican like that.

  18. Jason says:
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    Morning!

    Non fantasy question but interested in your opinion! Who are your picks for AL and NL MVP, CY, ROY, MOY, And COMEBACK PLAYER of the year!? Cheers!

    • Grey

      Grey says:
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      @Jason: We do this every year in March…There will be a post

      • Jason says:
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        @Grey:

        Oh cool good to know thanks!

        • Jason says:
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          @Jason:

          Forgive my newb questions, 1st yr using your 2nd to none site!

        • Grey

          Grey says:
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          No problem

  19. Tweak says:
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    I’m a little higher on Buchholz and Davies here. Maybe Ralph can verify, but my Bostonite sources all tell me that Buchholz has been pitching like crap because he’s a jerk and only pitched well when he knew there was a chance that he was getting out of town. Now that he’s out, and in the town that is known for its jerks, he should feel right at home and should pitch better.

    The eye test on Davies showed me that the guy just knows how to pitch. I won’t mind at all picking him up with one of my last two picks and having him be a stream-to-own guy.

    • Lincecuminmypants says:
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      @Tweak: As a lifelong Red Sox fan who has had him on multiple fantasy teams and still argued for the team to deal Suckhholz everytime he showed a glimmer of hope, all I can say is avoid, avoid, avoid. He’s like the kinda hot girl who you think you can have a relationship with only to realize she refuses to take her psych meds regularly and doesn’t like sex as much as she pretended to when you first started dating.

    • Grey

      Grey says:
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      @Tweak: For their price on draft day, I could see the flyer in the last round of drafts… I won’t be making it, but as mentioned in this post, have no problems picking up anyone if they start well

  20. Colon Blow says:
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    Unrelated to pitching ranks…how do you like Chris Carter as a Yankee?

  21. Anthony says:
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    @Grey: Any chance we can get 1 compiled list of the top 100 Sps ? Or do i have to open a tab for top 20, top 40, etc… ?

    • Grey

      Grey says:
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      @Anthony: There will be a top 500 list of every single player

  22. I am the Walrus says:
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    I can keep one – Goldy, Harper.
    Who to keep in the following formats:
    1) keep for next 3 yrs
    2) keep forever

      • I am the Walrus says:
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        Goldy in both scenarios?

  23. Scott Kimmel says:
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    Grey,

    What are your thoughts on Andrew Toles, OF, LAD? I am think about going after him as a Free Agent with my only draft pick left (4th rounder). My OF looks like this: Josh Bell (1B eligible), Cain, Rajai Davis, Gardner, Granderson, Cargo (COL),McCutchen, Jose, Ramirez, Trout, Trey Turner (2B eligible) or go after a pitcher to add to my staff which looks like this: Bumgarner, De Jong, Duffy, Kershaw, Lynn, Maeda, Roark, Scherzer, Shoemaker, Thor, Verlander like: CC, Hammel, Jaime Garcia, Davies, MOntgomery, Conley, Kazmir. Always looking forward to your opinion Grey. Thanks in advance

  24. The Great Knoche says:
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    I have a funny feeling the Skaggs could be upside your head guy to be in on. He was finally showing glimpses last year in his rehab starts along with a few in the bigs. He hasn’t had a full year since 2012 so I think lingering injuries could have been affecting him for a while.

    If he gets the walks under control I think the rest is there for him to put it all together.

    • Grey

      Grey says:
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      @The Great Knoche: Don’t disagree, Skaggs will likely show signs, but I bet he doesn’t pitch more than 120 IP

      • The Great Knoche says:
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        @Grey: I’ll take the over for $1. But not by much.

        • Grey

          Grey says:
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          Yup

  25. Wayne Hoobler says:
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    yeah, even MIL finally is starting use math and stuff in their team being run, it just takes longer to get down into the swamps of FLA.

  26. FBV says:
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    141. Clayton Richards…State Law states you must have 2 Padres in top 141. Look it up!!

    • Grey

      Grey says:
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      @FBV: Which state?

      • Sweatpants Nation says:
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        @Grey: Psychotic if your drafting him.

        • Grey

          Grey says:
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          Haha

  27. Big W says:
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    Hey Grey, thanks for the good work as usual. Looking forward to how you put together the top 100 and 500. Is top 100 tomorrow?

    I noticed someone asked you your thoughts on Carter signing with the Yankees and you provided a link to the updated 1b rankings. So if Carter is platooning with Bird, does Bird still get the projected 412 AB? I just wish they would let that Bird fly!

    • Grey

      Grey says:
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      Top 100 tomorrow… Yeah, Bird was dropped in my rankings too… I’m not subtracting his ABs yet, but I have less faith in him

  28. jeff says:
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    LOVE these lists!! I’m in a NL only 10 team keeper league. I’ve got a ton of keepers and many of them are on the fringe – I think they could regress big time. I’ve been offered the following deal. Am I giving up way too much, or is this a good move?

    I trade a $7 Joe Ross, $5 Eugenio Suarez, $7 Chris Owings AND minor leaguer Raimel Tapia for a $10 Grichuk. I want to win this year, not plan for next year. I’m betting big on the Cards offense – I own Carpenter and Piscotty.

    Am I crazy???
    Thanks!!

    • Grey

      Grey says:
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      Hold

      • jeff says:
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        @Grey: Meaning, don’t do the trade?

        • Grey

          Grey says:
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          Yes

          • jeff says:
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            @Grey: WHAT IF I got him to include David Dahl ($3) along with Grichuk ? He’ll want something else for the deal – should I include a $13 Matt Harvey, or is that also too much to deal? THANKS!!

            • Grey

              Grey says:
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              Then I’d take Dahl

  29. los locos says:
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    Grey, looking forward to the upcoming fantasy season. Looking at the team below. I need to keep 4 offensive players and 3 starting pitchers. We keep 7 players. 10 team keeper league.

    My team was loaded last year (HR/R/RBI/OPB/SB) & (QS/ERA/WHIP/K/9/SV). I finished in the playoffs but loss, I traded some draft picks as well so I could land players like Braun. So this year I don’t have a 2nd rd, 5th, 6th or 7th. So pretty much no 9th rd, 11th rd, 12th or 13th. But looking to trade some guys below hopefully to get back in the early rounds.

    The obvious choice are Arenado, Kershaw and Seager.. After that no clue. Thoughts?

    1B Freddie Freeman 1B | ATL
    3B Nolan Arenado 3B | COL
    SS Corey Seager SS | LAD
    OF Ryan Braun OF | MIL
    OF Starling Marte OF | PIT
    OF J.D. Martinez OF | DET
    U Mark Trumbo OF | BAL

    Pitchers

    SP Dylan Bundy RP,SP | BAL
    SP Danny Duffy RP,SP | KC
    SP Danny Salazar SP | CLE
    SP Stephen Strasburg SP | WAS
    SP Clayton Kershaw SP | LAD

    • Grey

      Grey says:
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      Freeman, Braun, Marte, JD — could see Salazar instead of Braun

  30. Jurickson BROfar says:
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    Oh Grey One,

    I had a draft last night in yahoo and like a nick un poop, I looked at the league settings 10 minutes before draft. Bats were normal, but pitching was :

    ip
    sv
    era
    k/9
    h/9
    qs

    Not gonna lie, I was baffled. We play 5 sp, 2 rp, 1 p and have 6 bench spots between bats and pitching. Is there anyone below that can go or anyone you would trade for that you just HAD to have in this format?

    I drafted:

    Cueto
    Carrasco
    Duffy (sp, rp)
    Salazar
    J. Gray
    A. Miller
    D. Betances
    Pineda
    R. Ray
    T. Glasnow
    M. Folty-water
    T. Thornberg

    Gracias Amigo.

  31. Nick says:
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    @Grey

    I’m wondering if you could give some keeper advice. 10-team head-to-head auction draft.

    Was thinking the following:
    Nolan Arenado $18
    Carlos Correa $10
    Anthony Benintendi $5
    Jean Segura $6
    Jackie Bradley $5

    Would you sub any of these for above?
    Xander Bogaerts $23
    Christian Yelich $17
    Max Kepler $5

    Thank you as always.

    • Grey

      Grey says:
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      Looks fine, the last few are all close

  32. Hometown Heroes says:
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    Which side in an AL only 12 team roto keeper league?
    Giles ($18 2yrs) and Francisco Mejia($1 at least 3 yrs) for Verlander($16 1yr)

    • Grey

      Grey says:
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      Verlander

  33. Big Odio says:
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    I made an argument for reading ranks to my buddy even if he doesn’t always agree with you. He was deciding between Stroman and Zimmerman for his keeper and felt they were pretty close *laughs hysterically* he plays by feel and oh what a feeling he has. There is no point to sharing this other than to read ranks to get a baseline of what the perts are doing and what others will be reading.

    • Grey

      Grey says:
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      You mean Jordan Zimmermann or Ryan Zimmerman? Guess it doesn’t matter

      • peacecoast says:
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        @Grey: they are both equally irrelevant right

        • Grey

          Grey says:
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          Yeah, exactly

      • Big Odio says:
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        @Grey: Jordan Zimmerman….I assumed Ryan retired *looks at fangraphs page* oh my bad, he’s just hurt all the time

        • Grey

          Grey says:
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          Ha

  34. Beware the Shit Rope says:
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    finally somebody else mentions that the jamie garcia surgery is definitely insect-like, can’t believe you are only 2nd person to mention this (i’m including myself here).

    • Grey

      Grey says:
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      Ha, yup

  35. Hoboken Squat Cobblers says:
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    Great stuff 50 Shades o’ Greytness!! So, here is one lemming’s take on 12-team, roto SP strategy:
    1st 4 Rounds: Hitters
    5th: (If Darvish/Verl/Cueto don’t drop..) Archer or Carrasco or CarMart to anchor staff
    6th-8th: Hitters
    9th & 10th: 2 more starters from Duffy, Maeda, Salazar, Cole, Quintana, Hill
    11th thru 17th: 4 Hitters, 2 Closers, but in 15th snag McCullers (or JGray or VV or Pax)
    18th: Nola or Pineda

    So, too upsidey for you or just right? Or, too much pitching? Thanks!!

    • Grey

      Grey says:
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      thanks! That looks pretty right on!

      • Hoboken Squat Cobblers says:
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        @Hoboken Squat Cobblers: @Grey: Awesome. I was thinking you might say to hold off on at least one of those SPs to pick a 5th starter from:
        Shoemaker, J Ross, Hammel, Iwakuma, Kennedy, McHugh, Hellickson, Lynn, Wheeler, Cobb, Foltywirewicz, D Norris, Wacha, Conley, Skaggs or Bundy.

        • Grey

          Grey says:
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          I’ll go over how to draft a pitching staff next week

        • Hoboken Squat Cobblers says:
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          @Hoboken Squat Cobblers: I’ll await the Holy Pitcher Pairings with baited breath!! Whatever that means!

          • Grey

            Grey says:
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            Ha

          • Let Us Now Praise Famous Death Dwarves says:
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            @Hoboken Squat Cobblers: you got that name from the random team name generator, didn’t you? awesome

            • Grey

              Grey says:
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              Ha!

  36. Jon says:
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    Keep forever dynasty league – I have room for 8 pitchers total.

    Cueto, Carrasco, Cole, Gausman, McCullers, and Osuna seem like locks for me, so I have room for 2 more…

    Aaron Sanchez, Roark, DeSclafani, Snell, Musgrove, Wade Davis, Andrew Miller, Iglesias…

    Who makes the cut?

    • Grey

      Grey says:
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      Miller, Sanchez

  37. Let Us Now Praise Famous Death Dwarves says:
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    wonder how much homer bailey and how often homer bailey just sits around and cries at the state of his body, and maybe whether or not he saved enough money over the years.

    also, is everybody else not able to get into any yahoo league right now?

    • Grey

      Grey says:
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      I bet he’s doing okay financially

      • Let Us Now Praise Famous Death Dwarves says:
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        @Grey: he better be now since the future don’t look bright.

        • Grey

          Grey says:
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          Ha

  38. Bill Lumbergh says:
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    @Grey: Did I just overlook him or is Vincent Velasquez absent from your top 120 SP?

    • Bill Lumbergh says:
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      @Bill Lumbergh: nevermind I’m just a horse’s ass! D’oh

    • Grey

      Grey says:
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      He’s in top 40

  39. Bill Lumbergh says:
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    Grey: On an unrelated note, we need a term for the decent pitchers that the Rays crank out year after year. We’ve got MediOAKers and Marginers that are both ball park assisted, but what about those Rays pitchers who keep coming off the assembly line like the chocolates in I Love Lucy? I’d offer something like T&B Pitching FactoRAY. Gonna throw that split til you bleed…everybody pitch now!

    • Grey

      Grey says:
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      Haha, nice!

  40. Slick says:
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    Grey,
    Where do you have Erving SANTANA ranked? I’ve looked at your top 24, 40, 60, 80, and 100. However, no mention of the guy. Was this a mistake or is he purposefully not ranked? Thanks.

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