One quick note, our War Room guy from last year has dropped out, so if you guys (maybe four girls) want a War Room this year, someone needs to step up to make it happen.  I will take ready, willing and abled-bodied people in the comments.  Oh, who are we kidding, no one here is able-bodied!  I’ll take anyone, just comment and I’ll contact you.  This is for the downloadable Excel War Room.  Any hoo!  With the top 80 starters for 2017 fantasy baseball, we are so close to the end of the rankings I can almost taste it!  Wait, that’s not rankings I taste, I bit my lip and it’s blood.  I wonder if when Dracula bites his lip it’s like when Cougs goes out with her friends and I’m left at home while Emmanuelle is on Cinemax.  You might say to yourself, “Self, everyone is totally fooled by my toupee and do I really need to draft starters this deep in my friendly 12-team mixed league?”  You don’t, except you will own guys from this post this year either from the draft or from waivers or your leaguemates will own them and beat you.  Last year, in the tier of pitchers I liked in the top 80 starters was Aaron Sanchez (pitcher, not chef), Rich Hill (pitcher, not sniglets) and Tanner Roark (pitcher, not Tattoo’s boss).  If you owned just them, you had a 2.74 ERA in 512 1/3 IP.  You really still think you need starters drafted early?  You throw in two earlier starters, say, Kluber and Gausman, and you have way too much pitching now.  I’ll go over exactly how to draft starters in a few days, but there are so many ways to skin a cat we should have PETA breathing down our necks.  All the 2017 fantasy baseball rankings are there.  My tiers and projections are noted.  Anyway, here’s the top 80 starters for 2017 fantasy baseball:

61. Gio Gonzalez – This tier started in the top 60 starters for 2017 fantasy baseball.  This tier ends at Garcia.  I called this tier, “The Board.”  In years past, most of the guys in this tier would’ve found themselves in a ‘boring, but reliable’ tier.  A tier that I would’ve recommended you draft if your rotation was high on upside and risk.  But, let’s face it, these guys aren’t safe and/or reliable.  Gio’s had moments in the past, but he had a 4.57 ERA last year, and he lost two miles on his fastball.  Maybe Gio can put it back together, but he looks broken down and I’m gonna start calling him Yugo Gonzalez, because a Gio is too reliable for him.  2017 Projections:  10-10/3.87/1.35/166 in 175 IP

62. Marco Estrada – Honestly, I don’t know what’s coming or going with Estrada.  Last year, Estrada’s Ks — Ponch-outs? — went up but his command — C.H.I.P.S.? — went down with his fastball velocity.  If you can tell me what Estrada’s going to do this year, I believe you know, but I don’t trust you.  Sorry, we can still be Facebook friends, since I don’t like most of my FB friends anyway.  2017 Projections:  10-12/3.91/1.21/150 in 175 IP

63. Jaime Garcia – Here’s what I said this offseason, “Braves traded for him.  Braves have been active this offseason, huh?  Already signed Colon and Dickey, which I said sounded like an after-shower spray Lorenzo Lamas would endorse.  Well, now they’ve added a guy that sounds like what Lamas says into the mirror, “Jaime.”  And that’s me quoting me!  2017 Projections:  8-11/3.88/1.28/125 in 150 IP

64. Jeremy Hellickson – This is a new tier.  This tier goes from here until Moore.  I call this tier, “Dollar Store condoms.”  By this tier name I mean, these guys are a mix of sorta safe, sorta cheap and worth a flyer.  “Wow, I’ve seen lambskin condoms before, but I never knew they made hedgehog skin condoms.”  That’s you going through the Dollar Store condom assortment.  As for Hellickson, I picture him being one of those guys that you draft in the last rounds, don’t really want, drop to waivers, then re-pick up and end up holding him for most of the year because he keeps putting up respectable starts.  Or he’s flat-out terrible.  Hey, we’re late in rankings here.  To give you an idea, we’re likely around 225 overall.  2017 Projections:  10-12/3.83/1.18/150 in 185 IP

65. Jerad Eickhoff – “All these hedgehog condom wrappers are broken.  That’s not a good sign, is it?”  I might be underrating Eickhoff with this ranking.  Last year, he had a 7.6 K/9 and 1.9 BB/9, which is more of a three than a five, which this tier is, but Finkle…Eickhoff!  Eickhoff…Finkle!  Finkle…Eickhoff!  Just okay stuff…This ranking!  2017 Projections:  11-11/3.77/1.19/158 in 190 IP

66. Lance Lynn –  “Honey, to give me an idea of what it will be like owning Lynn, I wanna try one of these hedgehog skin condoms.  Hey, this one is prickly.  That might be fun, right?”  Lynn is returning from Tommy John surgery and says he will be ready to go for the start of the season.  There’s at least a 25% chance that in April he says he’ll be ready to start by May.  Worst case scenario, you DL him until he returns.  2017 Projections:  9-5/3.65/1.31/109 in 120 IP

67. Chris Tillman – “You were right about the hedgehog condoms, they were a bad idea.  But they don’t have lambskin, so I got these new condoms…Snakeskin!”  Tillman sorta epitomizes this tier.  He has a tad bit of upside but will likely be a ~3.75 ERA guy, unless he’s not.  2017 Projections:  12-11/3.81/1.32/151 in 192 IP

68. Ivan Nova – “Fine!  Fine!  The snakeskin condoms were a bad idea too.  I’ll grant you that.  They shedded at the worst times.  But I think these new ones might be up your alley, skunk skin!  What?  It’s multifunctional with its female hygiene spray included.”  Based on very little actual math and mostly gut, Nova feels like he could be one of those guys that breaks out and ends up a top 20 starter out of nowhere.  When you have a 1.6 BB/9, it could go a long way towards a lucky BABIP turning into a 2.75 ERA.   2017 Projections:  9-10/3.67/1.23/134 in 175 IP

69. Robert Gsellman – There’s a Puerto Rican Sphinx in Queens, NY and its question:  Judo how the Mets can have a good starter for fantasy?  The answer is obvious, but so many people are blinded by the resemblance of the Queens Sphinx to Rosie Perez that they never answer, they just respond, “Judo?”  Never realizing it’s how the Puerto Rican Sphinx says ‘You know.’  The answer, of course, is the Mets can have a good starter in fantasy if they haven’t had a chance to wear the starter down the season before.  I imagine we’ll see Gsellman by May for Wheeler, if not sooner, but then he’ll likely get bumped for Wheeler in June, then he’ll bump Wheeler in July, and lose the spot again on August 2nd.  What, my Magic Eight Ball is very precise.  UPDATE:  The Mets said Gsellman will start the year in the rotation now that Wheeler has a sore elbow.  Great news for Gsellman in the short term, but, of course, this means the Mets are going to overuse him and he’ll be garbage next year, and not the good garbage that you can turn into post-modern art.  2017 Projections:  9-4/3.71/1.34/121 in 131 IP

70. Alex Cobb – “Yes, chameleon skin condoms were a mistake, but these jellyfish skin condoms were 50% off!  Baby?  Where are you going?”  So, if I could muster enthusiasm for Lynn, it’s only right we give Cobb one more chance too.  He did, after all, return last year and throw major league innings.  Okay, they weren’t great innings, but he’s pretty far removed from surgery and he once was a top 20 starter.  Definitely worth a flyer.  2017 Projections:  10-10/3.91/1.27/111 in 132 IP

71. Matt Moore – “You were right, jellyfish skin condoms were a bad call.  Man, were you right.  But you know what they say is the best way to get rid of the stinging, right?  Okay, so drink more water.”  Moore had a 3.16 ERA in AT&T, and, well, that’s all I got, but that’s a lot compared to some guys in this tier.  2017 Projections:  10-7/3.77/1.29/137 in 146 IP

72. Mike Montgomery – This is a new tier.  This tier goes from here until the top 100 starters for 2017 fantasy baseball.  I call this tier, “Grey’s upside your head.”  This is the last guy on your team in most mixed leagues.  That high-upside flyer that you may or may not still have on your team by mid-April.  I love all of these guys, but they are obviously risky and they may not even make it out of spring training with a rotation job.  As for Montgomery, best case scenario for him is a Joe Ross-type year.  Okay, who’s playing that damn music?  Worst case scenario, Montgomery runs over your dog, sleeps with your girlfriend and finishes your 18-year-old Fudgie the Whale Carvel ice cream cake you were saving in your freezer for your 30th birthday.  “I was saving the spout!”  That’s you screaming at the heavens.  Most realistic scenario, Montgomery is a decent third fantasy starter for fifteen starts, bouncing to the bullpen to let Brett Anderson start when he’s healthy.  2017 Projections:  7-4/3.42/1.21/111 in 124 IP

73. Julio Urias – I have artificial intelligence, and my silicone brain really likes these guys.  Sadly, my soft-to-the-touch brain, also knows they all have problems.  On a different team, Urias is a top 40 starter getting thirty starts.  On the Dodgers, he has a better chance of winning a staring contest.  You just know he’s going to juggle starts with Brandon McCarthy, Ryu, Brock Stewart, Stripling, Alex Wood and Jerry Reuss.  2017 Projections:  9-3/3.41/1.34/110 in 103 IP

74. Blake Snell – Already gave you my Blake Snell sleeper.  I typed it up with my elbows.  2017 Projections:  9-12/3.63/1.37/181 in 160 IP

75. Alex Reyes – Already gave you my Alex Reyes fantasy.  It put the whoa in “Whoa, awesome.”  UPDATE:  Reyes sounds headed for Tommy John surgery, so I wouldn’t draft him anywhere.  2017 Projections:  9-7/3.89/1.37/132 in 120 IP

76. Mike Foltynewicz – Occasionally, I’ll cheat with these rankings.  Guys I want to rank much higher, like Faultynewwirewitz, I concede to rank much lower knowing they are still way above where anyone else is going to rank them.  I love Faultytowerswitz and know that I can get him this late, even though he could easily be ranked about thirty spots higher.  Last year, he took the next step and no one even realizes it.  He has 8+ K/9 stuff, easily.  His 95 MPH fastball might even get him to 9+ K/9.  The one thing that always held him back was his command, and last year his command was 2.6 BB/9, which isn’t a problem at all.  As a 25-year-old, Foltynedalywitz should get a sleeper post, but may have to settle for just being well liked in the last tier of starters of the top 80.  2017 Projections: 9-9/3.81/1.27/160 in 174 IP

77. Daniel Norris – All the guys in this tier should get a sleeper post, and maybe I can corral some of our other writers to write them, since my time is monopolized with tending to my Chia Pet garden.  I should’ve never took on the J. Lo Chia, there’s just too much feathering of the leafs.  Speaking of J. Lo (Terrible Segue Alert!), I had a wart on my hand that I wanted to burn off, so I went to the dermatologist, and in the waiting room, there were dozens of articles about J. Lo going to see my same doctor.  *blows knuckle where wart used to be*  Yeah, I share a dermatologist with J. Lo, so whatever, don’t sweat me and my well-hydrated pores.  Any hoo!  The only thing stopping Norris from being a huge breakout is his lack of track record.  Next year, he could be a top 30 starter.  2017 Projections:  7-9/3.75/1.35/110 in 115 IP

78. Michael Wacha – You know what’s crazy?  Jackie Evancho is not a Native American remake of Jackie Brown.  You know what’s crazy and on-topic?  Wacha, due to unfortunate luck, may no longer be a starter.  Sure, he has trouble staying healthy, but I bet if he had neutral luck last year and a 3.95 ERA, he wouldn’t be in danger of losing his rotation spot.  Well, he is now facing that, and, if he’s not good in the spring, I could see him opening the season as a long reliever, and staying there, and this is the longest sentence in the history of sentences; God bless Siri, if you’re having her read this aloud.  Even if Wacha gets the rotation role, between him, Luke Weaver, Reyes and Lynn, they may all share three rotation spots.  Likely will be a very fluid situation like the reason you own rubber bedsheets.  2017 Projections:  8-8/3.79/1.18/129 in 155 IP

79. Adam Conley – I felt Conley and Tom Koehler were forever linked like hot dogs and mustard, Bangles and walking Egyptians, and Gavin Floyd and John Danks, but Conley’s pulled slightly away.  Conley took a step forward last year, upping his K/9 to 8.4.  Of course, his walk rate was a mess, but he did have a 2.8 BB/9 the previous year, so if he can somehow put his 2016 K-rate with his 2015 walk rate, there could be a breakout here.  It’s not going to be quite that easy, since he made slight adjustments to his windup last year, which helped his Ks and hurt his command.  Still, one year more with this tweaked windup and he could break out.  Definitely worth a flyer.  2017 Projections:  9-10/3.74/1.35/154 in 165 IP

80. Tyler Skaggs –  This year people will be drafting Zack Wheeler as he returns from Tommy John surgery, and I might myself, but watch Wheeler be a mess still, while a guy like Skaggs, who is two years removed from TJ, is much further along and becomes the example we use for where Wheeler will be next year.  It’s time he rocked with people yelling, ‘You’re such a boss, Skaggs!’  2017 Projections:  9-11/3.81/1.36/141 in 138 IP

 
  1. LenFuego says:
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    Hi Grey,

    Enjoying your rankings!

    Last year was my first year in fantasy baseball (after over a quarter century doing football) – I joined a 12 team 5×5 two catcher auction league with up to 7 regular keepers and up to 5 “developmental” players that never appeared in your starting lineup (max keep time for all keepers = 5 years, after 2nd year if you want 2 more yrs salary raises by $5, 3 more yrs by $10).

    The team I took over was devoid of any keeper talent, so last season was a rebuilding year. I have the following players, all coming off their 1st year:

    Jonny Villar $1
    Jose Ramirez $5
    Nomar Mazara $1
    Jorge Soler $2
    Logan Forsythe $1
    Marcus Semien $2
    Kyle Seager $17

    Aaron Sanchez $5
    Vince Velaquez $1
    James Paxton $5

    (I am keeping B. Zimmer, J. Alfaro, M. Margot, R. Devers and Jose De Leon as developmental keepers)

    I intend to keep Villar, Ramirez, Mazara, Soler, Sanchez, Velasquez and Paxton. Disagree?

      • Robert says:
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        @Grey: That sounds like the results of someone who is really excited about a sunrise.

        • Grey

          Grey says:
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          Sounds like nocturnal emission

      • LenFuego says:
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        @Grey: Thanks, Grey, I appreciate the feedback.

        Let me make my case for Soler over Semien and see if you still prefer Semien:

        Where you set yourself up for success in this league is getting guys at low salaries that end up far exceeding their 3 year contract extension value so you get a lot of excess value for a long time. As $2 players, my 3 year contract extension value for both Soler and Semien will be $12 next year.

        Soler seems to me more likely than Semien to break out beyond that $12 value level.

        Soler is 2 years younger (24 vs. 26), is rated by scouts to have superior tools (e.g., 70 power), actually had a higher HR rate than Semien last year (5.3% of at-bats vs. 4.7%), and with the trade to KC, he should get a chance to play every day, at a productive spot in the batting order, and may even get a chance to steal a few bases (he had 17 SBs in 155 minor league games).

        I also think it is worth noting that Soler has had only 1239 ABs in his entire five-year professional career, and less than 200 of those were at the AA or AAA level. There is good reason to believe he can develop further.

        • Grey

          Grey says:
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          Semien was a top 15 SS last year already, is only 26 and had 27 HRs and 10 SBs last year… You’re overthinking it… You’re hoping a guy who has never done something gets to a level where a player is already doing it

          • LenFuego says:
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            @Grey: Thanks. Not the first time I have been accused of overthinking things, heh.

            • Grey

              Grey says:
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              Ha, no problem

  2. TheMuppetManiac says:
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    I’m in a 12 team H2H keeper league. Standard scoring. We get to keep six. I’m having a hard time picking.

    Jose Altuve
    Francisco Lindor
    Wil Myers
    Khris Davis
    Matt Kemp
    Alex Bregman
    Jose Bautista
    Maikel Franco
    Jake Arrieta
    Kyle Hendricks
    Gerrit Cole
    Danny Duffy
    Danny Salazar

    I was thinking of keeping Altuve, Lindor, Franco, Myers, Davis and Arrieta (who I would try to trade)

    • Grey

      Grey says:
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      @TheMuppetManiac: Altuve, Lindor, Franco, Myers and Arrieta… Then wild card… I’d go Bregman

  3. Mat Gillette says:
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    I’ll give it a go if you’ve still got an opening

  4. henncoop says:
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    Oh happy day …part quatro? Maybe not so happy …seems like more dark clouds then sunshine here. But if anyone can pick the 2 or 3 gems out of this group or the last 20 plus (we know there will be at least 110 in the top 100) it is you Grey.
    Obviously back at work & having another good night …as it should be. Thanks for my nightly read …most entertaining …dollar store condoms …yeah that works for this group.

  5. Ante GALIC says:
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    Grey!

    Great post, intriguing picks for sure!! But you’d you have to be one dollar-store condom short of a 24-pack of condoms to draft more than 2 of these guys! Risky business!

    a. Getting to the bottom of the barrel here! But sometimes what’s left at the bottom of the barrel is the part that makes the taste of whiskey the best, right?

    b. From this group I’m going to love Nova, Kazmir, Urias and Folty. If any or all are available near the end of the draft, will go for it.

    Cheers,
    Ante

    • Grey

      Grey says:
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      @Ante GALIC: Agreed… A. I don’t know, actually, is that true? B. Nova! Hopefully! Urias! Maybe! Folty! Possibly!

  6. fuzzy slippers says:
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    Grey, first time commenter over here from jersey. Awesome write ups from you and your crew. Thank you Master Lothario
    Question on who to keep
    12 team keeper league – have to keep 5
    yelich, Polanco, myers , villar, buxton, bumgarner carrasco

    • Grey

      Grey says:
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      @fuzzy slippers: Jersey! Whereabouts? Throw back Yelich, Buxton

  7. Tim says:
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    Grey- which combo do you like better in a 12 tm H2H Points Keeper:
    Goldschmidt/Sale or Rizzo/Bumgarner?

    • Curious George Springer says:
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      @Tim: Rizzo

    • Goldirocks says:
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      @Tim:
      Goldy by alot

    • Grey

      Grey says:
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      @Tim: Goldy

  8. Rudy says:
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    @ Ante, I agree totally

  9. M says:
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    Nova is definitely an NL-type pitcher, wonder if Searage can work his magic on him (and maybe even Hutchinson to an extent).

    • Grey

      Grey says:
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      @M: He already seemed to do that

      • swaggerjackers says:
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        @Grey: Agreed. He was putting together some nice numbers in the second half.

        • Grey

          Grey says:
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          Yup

  10. Test Kitchen says:
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    Grey,

    I might be able to help with the War Room

    Let me know what needs to happen

    • peacecoast says:
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      @Test Kitchen: omg pls I need me some War Room! I can’t realistically go into my draft without that thing!

      • Stock says:
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        I AGREE…but I prefer the online version instead of the spreadsheet.. for the online version..and yes I would pay

        • Jimmy Bond says:
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          @Stock: at some point in the future it might make sense to have it be a shared Google Doc or something like that (so online but spreadsheet form), but there is too much conditional formatting in the current excel version I use to just copy-paste over from excel

  11. Chocolate Chip Pancakes says:
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    If you have to start the season with three of the twenty pitchers listed above, who do you roll with?

    • Gigorilla says:
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      Lynn, Kazmir, Moore

  12. Cuthbert Allgood says:
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    Contract/Keeper league and I am entering the next season with the following SPs: Matz, Urias, and Wainwright (hoping for a pulse). Given this uncertainty, I am planning on taking a SP with my first pick. For reference, I am also coming back with Hosmer, Belt, Machado, Stanton, Harper, Russell, and Baez also some schmuck named Heyward.
    While Sale, Lester, or Price may be available, which of the following would you draft considering his cost and then put a 3-4 year contract on:
    C. Martinez @ $14
    J. deGrom @$10,
    G. Cole @ $7
    D. Duffy @ $11
    J. Arrieta @ $9.

    Thanks.

  13. Jason says:
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    Morning!

    Off topic with this post but from what I’ve read it sounds like draft strategy for 1st 3 rds would be get a top 3rd basemen 1st rd (kb arenado machado donaldson), 2nd rd SS (Correa story lindor boegarts seager) and 3rd Rd snag 1b Freeman desmond maybe an edwin. But with 1b do shallow Would you rather have:

    Arenado Correa Freeman (I’ve been getting these every mock I do at 4th overall in 10 and 12 team)

    OR

    Goldi Correa K. Seager

    Cheers!

      • Jason says:
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        @Grey:

        Thanks! Much appreciated as always

        • Grey

          Grey says:
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          No problem

  14. Cheese says:
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    I’m very capable in excel, I basically live in a spreadsheet. Let me know if you still require assistance with the War Room.

  15. FrankGrimes says:
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    So close to my 2 favorite pre season posts!
    1) Pitcher pairings (formerly known as APPLES)
    2) The most entertaining convoluted greyest one of them all
    the famous hitters pairings.

  16. Swfcdan says:
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    Just been reading your SP rankings, its greyt that Grey likes Jon Gray! I mean I guess you couldn’t not with that sexy name! But his stuff is pretty much ace level so its about time some no Ubaldo-pitching human beat Coors. Good job throwing your neck on the line with this one, I did the same trading J Bell for Gray in a keeper league.

  17. Cram It says:
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    You know I’m a proponent of the “Don’t pay for pitching” company line. But Kluber, Gausman and a few guys from the top 80 is not a staff I’d be confident with. I struggle with reconciling how to draft a good rotation. In my experience, the two guys at the top aren’t enough to carry you when the other arms don’t turn out to be a Rich Hill or Aaron Sanchez.

    In theory, it’s the way to go but the application of it is very risky.

    • Brian says:
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      These guys aren’t that risky because if they’re bad, they’ll be dropped after a few starts. I think the #2 and #3 starters are riskier because if they are bad, you still start them until June. Francisco Liriano killed a couple of my pitching staffs that way last year.

      • Cram It says:
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        @Brian: Good point and that’s true. But then I find I’m stuck streaming at least 3 positions in May until I find keepers to eat innings. I think you need at least 3 reliable guys heading in. One good guy and a Gausman-type who I’m probably streaming to begin with in that division doesn’t make me feel warm and fuzzy.

        • Grey

          Grey says:
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          Gausman is only 26, coming off a 3.61 ERA season and throws 95, you might want to embrace him

    • Grey

      Grey says:
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      @Cram It: Doesn’t this have a lot to do with you just not liking Gausman?

      • Cram It says:
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        @Grey: Haha. Ok that might have something to do with it. If you said Hamels or Cole, I’d get behind that.

        I’m not embracing him. I watch him pitch a lot, living in Baltimore. His fastball is straight as an arrow, and he doesn’t have great command. His Whip is too high for me and he’s in Camden. I want to like him, I just don’t see a major step forward this year.

        That said, I don’t disagree with your 13 wings, 3.50/.1.25 projection. But that’s a #2 to you?

        • Grey

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          Yeah, that’s a #2… I don’t love Camden and his division either, but he looks on the verge… Speaking of AL East, Pineda will prolly give me a headache all year too

          • Cram It says:
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            @Grey: Okay, I feel like if your team totals are 3.50/1.25 you’re in the bottom half. I don’t know how one #1 SP can offset that with 3 other pitchers predicted worse than that.

            I don’t want to own Pineda. I try to stay away from erratic unpredictable guys. Give me Aaron Nola’s and Cole Hamels’ all day.

            • Grey

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              3.50 is what I’d expect, but you’re hoping for more… If you used Gausman right last year, you likely had a 3.30 ERA… I.e., his Fenway ERA was near-5, and over 7 in Toronto… You prolly benched him for those starts

              • Cram It says:
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                @Grey: And you’re probably benching him for those starts again this year. I want my #2 to be an every outing guy and not have to hope for more than 3.50/1.25. Fine to do with Gausman, but not for my approach with my #2 starter.

                • Grey

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                  I will say, I have a tier of safer #2’s in front of him, which you prolly agree with…Gausman tier is a risky #2 tier, more of a #3 tier

                  • Cram It says:
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                    @Grey: I do, and that’s why you do the tiers, which is great, in case people want to go a different route and feel supported in that.

                    I guess my #2’s would end where Gausman starts. You’re getting into the #30 ranks…that’s where I’d start looking at my #3.

                    But can we go back to the 3.50/1.25 thing? If you were told that your #2’s stats would be exactly what you predict for Gausman, you’d be content with that? And then assume that every guy lower than than is progressively worse, even if it’s just a tad. 3.53/1.26/ 182 K’s, etc. That doesn’t seem to equate to good pitching #’s overall. Is my math that bad? (Could be)

                    • Grey

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                      Yeah, 3.50+ isn’t good, but it depends on the league… In an RCL, I grabbed Duffy and Roark off waivers for 100+ IP each…Throw in MRs, and one ace (though Archer didn’t help as he should’ve), and your pitching is fine… Gausman as a #2 with upside? It’s risky but in an RCL I think you’ll be fine if you stay on top of waivers and streamers

                    • zombie says:
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                      @Cram It: & Grey. Good shizz, gentlemen. No real insight to add. Just that for some reason, waiting with confidence on starters seems particularly risky this season. Nice to see that that inkling is shared.

                    • Grey

                      Grey says:
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                      Yeah, it does feel more so, coming off a huge offensive year definitely fueling that

                    • Cram It says:
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                      @Cram It: I agree in an RCL. There’s more room to maneuver and take advantage of MR’s. I definitely have a harder time strategizing in that format. When I won the whole thing two years ago my pitching numbers were okayyyy. Last year when I finished 2nd, they were not good at all. And I drafted like 7 or 8 SP’s. So I’m still trying to figure out how to attack the RCL pitching strategy.

                      I’ll just draft Gausman to annoy you.

                    • Grey

                      Grey says:
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                      This might all be a ruse to get you to draft Gausman

                    • Cram It says:
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                      @Cram It: Dirty pool. Just give me the first pick and the rest will be gravy.

                    • Grey

                      Grey says:
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                      If you get the first pick I’m restarting the draft room

                    • Cram It says:
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                      @Cram It: You have to now. I think that would be hilarious if you did, actually.

                    • Grey

                      Grey says:
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                      Sadly, I wouldn’t even know how

  18. Rock D says:
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    Interested in hearing about junior guerra. Dude was lights out before getting hurt. Too small of a sample? Numbers didn’t jive with results?

    • Grey

      Grey says:
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      @Rock D: I’m not a big fan

  19. peacecoast says:
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    hey Grey how did you do last year in the leagues you played in?

    • Grey

      Grey says:
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      @peacecoast: Three 2nds and one terrible, let’s not talk about it

      • Cheese Eating Surrender Monkey says:
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        @Grey: that’s pretty damn good if only in 4 leagues.

  20. Chris says:
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    Hey Grey!

    I’m having a hard time selecting keepers for this year in a 14 team league H2H.

    I have already chosen Trout and Sale and I need 2 more. Who would you chose between Freeman, Starling Marte, Odor, Gregory Polanco and Carpenter.

    Thanks for you help.

    • Grey

      Grey says:
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      @Chris: Marte, Odor

  21. Duda Want to Build a Snowman? says:
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    Really like some guys from this list as my back end of the rotation in 12 teamers.

    Nova seemed primed I have a sneaky 3.3 low whip type season.

    Estrada – done trying to figure him out. He’s done this magic trick for two year, so I’m happy to buy at this price.

    • Grey

      Grey says:
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      Yeah, exactly…

  22. Tony_Sal says:
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    Keep 5 :

    Kershaw, F.Hernandez, D.Keuchel, J.Taillon, D.Salazar, M.Stroman, R.Osuna, S Wang Oh, C.Allen

    • Grey

      Grey says:
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      Kershaw, Salazar, Stroman, Taillon, Osuna

  23. tony says:
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    keeper league, 5 dollar benintendi and 14 dollar polanco for 17 dollar rizzo is a no brainer right?
    What about 10 dollar mondcada for 14 dollar Kluber?
    Thanks!

    • Grey

      Grey says:
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      Rizzo and Kluber sides

  24. matt says:
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    Love all your work…22 team 5&5 league
    can keep players
    plan on keeping
    Manny
    Trea
    Desmond
    and one of
    Edwin Diaz at 1$
    or
    AJ at 10$
    Thoughts?

    • Grey

      Grey says:
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      Thanks! Pollock?

  25. matt says:
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    sorry….yeah Pollock

    • Grey

      Grey says:
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      Yeah, Pollock

  26. John D says:
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    Thanks for the great early season work,.
    12-team NL only 5×5 keeper so deep starting rosters and decent player inflation. I know neither is too exciting, but as a last keeper – $10 Zach Davies vs. $1 Felipe Rivero.?

    • Grey

      Grey says:
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      Neither… Davies