I sure wish Grey would do his 2017 fantasy baseball rankings.  Wait, I am Grey and this is those rankings!  I need to sit down.  Wait, I am sitting!  I can’t handle all of this!  I’m going to put on a pair of pants and go dance in the street.  Meh, let’s be honest, pants are a chore.  So, this is the greatest day ever!  Now, only 400,000 words more until I finish my top 500 and I’ll be done.  Worst day ever!  Damn, that excitement was fleeting.  Well, not for you because you don’t have to write all the rankings.  You lucky son of a gun!  I wish I were you… *wavy lines*  Hey, why am I balding and have lost all definition in my buttocks?  *wavy lines*  Hmm, I’m gonna stay me.  Now before we get into the top 10 for 2017 fantasy baseball (though I imagine every single one of you has skipped this intro paragraph), I’m gonna lay down some exposition.  Here’s where you follow us on Twitter.  Here’s where you follow us on Facebook.  Here’s our fantasy baseball player rater.  Here’s our fantasy baseball team name generator.  Here is all of our 2017 fantasy baseball rankings.  Here’s the position eligibility chart for 2017 fantasy baseball.  And here is a picture of my son.  What a punim!  You may not get all of those links in such a handy, easy-to-use format ever again this year, so make proper note.  (Unless you just go to the top menu on this page that says “Rankings” and click it, but semantics, my over-the-internet friend, semantics.)  Now my expositional half insists I breakdown some generalizations about these 2017 fantasy baseball rankings.  The 2017 fantasy baseball rankings will be an ever-evolving mass like the blob.  This fantasy baseball top 10 for 2017 list is as of right now and could potentially change with a big injury or Mike Trout quitting baseball because he’s bored with being the best and wants to play competitive Mahjong.  (I’m not sure yet where Trout would rank in my Mahjong Top 10.) So while it is the 2017 fantasy baseball gospel, take it with a tablet of salt.  Tomorrow we will cover the rest of the top twenty for 2017 fantasy baseball, then we will go around the horn with a top 20 (more like 50) list for every position.  Then for pitchers and outfielders, I’ll turn the dial to 100 (more like 140).  Listed with each player are my 2017 projections.  Did I consult with anyone else who does projections?  It would be ignorant not to, but, in the end, these are my projections.  Players need 10 games at a position to get included in the positional rankings.  Finally, as with each list in the 2017 fantasy baseball rankings, I will be mentioning where I see tiers start and stop.  I look at tiers like this, if Jose Altuve and Paul Goldschmidt are in the same tier, it doesn’t matter if one guy is ranked 2nd and one guy is ranked 5th, they’re both very close.  It comes down to personal preference.  I would prefer the guy at number two over the guy at five, but you do you, I’ll do me and let’s hope we don’t go blind.  Anyway, here’s the top 10 for 2017 fantasy baseball:

1. Mike Trout – This tier goes from here until here. I call this tier, “The Americans, Piper’s Pit with Snuka and going to a sporting event with your dad when you’re a kid.” By the tier name I mean, these are a few of the greatest things in the world.  You can argue The Americans is not the best TV show like you can argue Trout is not the best player, but the only arguments you’re going to hear are from people grasping at straws.  You can argue the Piper’s Pit with Snuka was not the greatest moment of the 1980s, but you’re only going to hear arguments from East Germans excited about getting a clearer view of West Germany.  And games with your dad, well, it doesn’t matter what sport, really.  Even if you now think your dad is a total ass, those moments when you were a kid were special, just like Trout.  So, you can argue Trout is not the best player of our generation, but you sound like an East German Commie grabbing straws.  2017 Projections: 105/37/117/.326/21 in 561 ABs

2. Paul Goldschmidt – This tier goes from here until Machado. I call this tier, “Judge Choosy.” By the title I mean, you can argue for any of the players ranked 2nd through 8th to be ranked in any of those spots, and I will hear those arguments after the recess. Right now, I need to recess the court for an hour lunch to get out of this robe and eat a Chicken Caesar Wrap. *pounds gavel, chyron flies out with the most spectacular font you’ve ever seen announcing Judge Choosy, defendant looks at his attorney* “I thought this was traffic court.”  I, Judge Choosy, decided to choose Goldschmidt for the 2nd overall slot, but I can look at any player down to Machado and see them in this slot depending on the angle.  As for Goldschmidt, his infield popups went up (literally), his ground balls went up (not literally — un-literally?) and his fly balls went down (literally again).  It caused his home runs to fall (literally literally) and his average to dip (you dip, we dip, you put your hand upon my hip — not literally!  Stop touching me!).  None of these numbers seem to be the new normal, but — and this is a well-defined but like Serena Williams’ — even if he were to repeat these numbers, he still ranked 6th overall for fantasy value last year on our Player Rater.  That, my friends and frenemies, is consistency.  Finally, I really wanted to put Betts 2nd overall, but I’m concerned about the lack of depth at 1st base for the first time maybe ever.  I’m concerned, y’all!  2017 Projections:  105/28/107/.306/21 in 581 ABs

3. Mookie Betts – MB!  MB!  Who’s Peabo Bryson?!  Two years ago, I renewed my license!  Anyway, why’d I start this blurb like that?  Prolly because I was listening to Nicki Minaj.  Or maybe because Mookie Betts is a monster.  The best living or dead hands down, huh.  Mookie Best hit 31 home runs last year with a 13.6% HR/FB and stole 26 bags with only four times caught.  What does that mean?  The Betts There Ever Was has upside left in his game.  Brucely, you’re not getting a whole lot of return on your investments with the guys in the top 10 (or, really, top 20).  You draft Trout, Au Shizz or any of these guys and hope to get back exactly what you paid.  You pay $46 and hope to get a player worth that.  With My Bestie, I think you might be able to get more than what you paid.  Finding upside in a top three pick is sick as in extremely healthy.  2017 Projections:  104/29/113/.314/21 in 584 ABs

4. Kris Bryant – I’ll get to more of this in the next tier, but, if I could have three picks in this tier, I will repent all my sins like Chunk in The Goonies.  Bryant, Betts and Goldy on the same fantasy team?  *makes a kissing motion with my fingertips exploding from my lips like an Italian waiter describing the veal scallopini*  I’d skip the next five rounds of draft picks for three of these guys.  They’re all…*channeling Italian waiter again* boo-tee-ful choices!  And, as every Italian also likes to do, to quote Madonna, I was beat, incomplete, I’d been had, I was sad and blue, but you, Kris Bryant, made me feel….Shiny and new!  The guys in this tier are not only terrific, but they’re all so young.  To quote an Italian and ABBA, Mamma Mia!  No wonder offense is up, it’s not because baseballs are being stuck with Capri Sun straws by Rob Manfred, it’s all this youthful pleasure.  Youthful pleasure was also a phrase used by Italians during Pizzagate.  By the way, did you hear about the scandal in the gate section of Home Depot?  It’s Gategate.  2017 Projections: 106/34/113/.288/10 in 588 ABs

5. Jose Altuve – If you haven’t seen Eastbound and Down, you’re a Commie East German too, but, even if you haven’t, I have another installment of Dude’s Doppelganger!  Which one is Jose Altuve?  This one or this one?  Mamie, I am high on Fanta!  Sorry, still in Eastbound mode.  Admittedly, that likeness isn’t as close as this one for Carlos Beltran. So, last year Altuve reached new heights 24 HRs, 96 RBIs, 108 runs, 61 inches, and I’m not totally convinced these won’t all stay career highs, as he peers down at lesser stats and the tops of 8-year-olds’ heads.  “Altuve, you’ve reached the mountaintop!” That’s me calling to Altuve who is standing on top of a foot stool.  “It is high up here.”  That’s Altuve.  His HR/FB was more than double his career average, and his fly ball percentage actually went down.  He did hit the ball harder with his line drives shooting up.  Even if Altuve’s stats take off their Tom Cruise lifts, so to speak, he should still be a solid, five-category performer.  2017 Projections:  107/18/81/.321/37 in 612 ABs

6. Nolan Arenado – “It just took me six hours to properly collate my entire 1987 Topps baseball card set, and I can’t find my Dale Sveum.” *sees card stuck between folds of belly skin*  “Got it!”  *carefully putting Sveum card in its proper place when the window shutters vibrate*  NOOOOOO!!!  IT’S A TORENADO!  Ever curious what a stud, in his prime, playing in Coors, looks like?  Two hints for you.  First hint:  It’s Arenado.  2nd hint:  See first hint.  2017 Projections:  103/38/123/.291/2 in 601 ABs

7. Anthony Rizzo – Essentially, I feel like Rizzo and Bryant are interchangeable.  On the surface, they have the same amount of power, speed, lineup, for Cheez-It’s sake, they both hit .292 last year!  Under the hood, as mechanics and gynecologists like to say, Bryant is younger, hits the ball harder and strikes out more.  If you jumped out of a DeLorean and said you just arrived back from October and told me Rizzo had a better year than Bryant, I’d say, “I’m not surprised and that’s the info you bring me back from the future?  Should I buy any specific stock?  Short any stock?  Start learning Russian?” And that’s me quoting hypothetical me!  2017 Projections: 97/35/109/.297/7 in 571 ABs

8. Manny Machado – He attempted three steals last year and came away with zero.  The Goose Egg.  The Zilch of Nil.  The Big O.  Though, that last nickname for zero might be used already for other topics.  I think basketball player, Orgasm Robertson, might have dibs on it.  Machado is still only 24 years old and I can’t believe we never see another steal from him.  He has to at least be projected for 5 steals.  Mean’s while, 20 steals, the number he got two years, has to be in the realm of possibilities.  Why so focused on the steals?  Well, because everything is a given for wonderful.  35 HRs — check! 100 runs and RBIs — check!  Hits .290 — check!  What two people who met playing chess say at their wedding — checkmate!  2017 Projections: 102/35/107/.292/5 in 603 ABs

9. Bryce Harper – This is a new tier.  This tier goes from here until here.  I call this tier, “Ugh, can’t difficult decisions wait until later in the draft?”  There’s only one hitter who can be much better than Trout and worse than Jay Bruce.  Is Bryce safer than, say, Donaldson?  I can’t say that, especially not if you’re sharing cotton candy.  Wait, that’s Sam Donaldson you don’t want to share cotton candy with because of his eyebrows.  “Um, Sam, you go ahead and keep it.”  That’s someone who shared cotton candy with Sam Donaldson and sees it’s half-stuck to his brows.  Pound for pound, Josh Donaldson has been more consistent and better than Harper, but aging curves are funny and for the 20% chance of Donaldson falling apart, I’ll take the 20% chance Harper recaptures wonderful*.  *20% is a totally arbitrary number.  As for Harper, here’s an offseason tweet I made when the Nats revealed Harper wanted $400 million:

Harper’s future contract demands don’t mean a ton for fantasy, but it could just mean he wants to prove why he’s worth that.  Also, I think Harper only had a down year the previous season due to a shoulder issue.  He’s 24 years old and should have no problem rebounding in health and stats.  This might be the last year you can draft Harper outside the top two overall for many years to come, unless he becomes a Saberhagenmetrician darling.  2017 Projections: 96/33/106/.291/12 in 534 ABs

10. Josh Donaldson – This is a new tier.  This tier goes from here until the top 20 for 2017 fantasy baseball.  I call this tier, “Easy like Monday morning quarterbacking.”  By the tier name I mean, I think these picks are easy, but you might get to May and be like, “Why did I take the old guy whose better days were behind him?  I mean, he’s fine, but he’s so not exciting.  Shoot, someone is watching me talk to myself.  Slowly pick up your phone and pretend you were talking into it.  Hello, no, I don’t need a subscription to the Sunday paper.  There, that was very convincing.”  Word on the predominantly white, male streets of fantasy baseball is Donaldson won’t still be on draft boards for me to draft him here.  You know what?  I’m okay with that.  I might be bailing on him too soon, but I’d prefer to be too soon than too late.  If there is one guy that I see in every first round that I think is going to disappoint, it’s always Donaldson.  Injuries happen to everyone, and can’t be avoided, but who in this top ten do you see disappointing while staying healthy?  Anyone?  Harper doesn’t count, he wasn’t healthy last year.  I don’t see anyone.  About the safest top nine I can remember (wait, until you see the top 20 and how perilous that is).  I think Donaldson could stay healthy and disappoint.  His lineup is not as good this year, so 122 runs for a third year in a row seems to be a stretch.  His home runs declined from 2015 to ’16.  He counts on having 700 plate appearances for a lot of his value, so one DL stint ruins that.  He’s now 31 years old and you can’t share cotton candy with him!  Wait, wrong Donaldson again.  2017 Projections:  95/32/101/.287/6 in 570 ABs

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Polka
5 years ago

I’ll float you a Sveum, I’ve got three extras….

Anthony
Anthony
5 years ago

Grey,
This is the greatest fantasy site (non-pornographic….hey don’t judge me) in the world. You help me do great every year in my leagues. My question is in a few of my leagues they are changing it up a bit and getting rid of AVG and using OPS instead. Can I still use your rankings as is or should I adjust them. Do you have a separate ranking using OPS instead of AVG. AS always Grey thanks!!!!

High Fives for Sale
High Fives for Sale
5 years ago

Grey,
I’d like to thank you for helping make the rest of my league look like fools when I told them Sano wasn’t going to work out, and they all kept him anyway.

danny almonte
danny almonte
5 years ago

Schoop or Forsythe?

J-Dawg
J-Dawg
5 years ago

You were “listening” to Nicki Minaj? Is that the new term for extreme ogling now? Anyway, I got Goldschmidt for an outrageous $62 in the auction last year. I’m thinking I throw him back, because he wasn’t worth $62, and worst case scenario, I can get him back for $62, though I don’t plan on spending that much again. 48-man roster, $550 salary cap. Too much?

Eli Man Penguin Boy
Eli Man Penguin Boy
Reply to  J-Dawg
5 years ago

@J-Dawg: that equates to only 30.44 in a standard 270 budget, so that’s a good price.

Eli Man Penguin Boy
Eli Man Penguin Boy
Reply to  Eli Man Penguin Boy
5 years ago

@Eli Man Penguin Boy: but, having said that, standard rosters aren’t near 48 sized, so might want to list some other guys at the top end of your market to know prices comparisions.

Marko
Marko
5 years ago

Welcome back Grey and thanks for all that you do.

So where is the best place to find rankings for 5×5 obp Roto leagues?

Scott Kimmel
Scott Kimmel
5 years ago

Grey,

I am about to pull the trigger on a deal and wanted your thoughts:

I give up Adrian Gonzalez
I get: Josh Bell and Cody Bellinger

What do you think?

Scott Kimmel
Scott Kimmel
Reply to  Grey
5 years ago

thanks grey

Eli Man Penguin Boy
Eli Man Penguin Boy
Reply to  Scott Kimmel
5 years ago

@Scott Kimmel: i’d have taken one of those and something smaller so good deal there. unless somehow a-gon’s back issue is completely gone and stays gone (yeah ok) in which case you’d still be getting enough.

AL KOHOLIC
AL KOHOLIC
5 years ago

Thanks Grey here we go again

herschel
herschel
5 years ago

RIP Snuka….just saw the news.

herschel
herschel
Reply to  Grey
5 years ago

@Grey: or rap the lyrics to Young MC’s Im Comin Off….

muskysmell
muskysmell
5 years ago

What’s good Grey!!

Happy Offseason~!

I’d just like to point out that I have Mike Trout, Mookie Betts, Kris Bryant, and Bryce Harper in my fantasy keeper league.

Yes, (fantasy) life is goooooood

muskysmell
muskysmell
Reply to  Grey
5 years ago

@Grey:

Good mang! LA weather finally getting sunnier after that gloomy stuff the past week or so.

I know, I’m stoked about my squad…Here’s hoping for a dynastic run of championships babyyy

Eli Man Penguin Boy
Eli Man Penguin Boy
Reply to  Grey
5 years ago

@Grey: that and that water dripping on you in LA would be much nastier water than most cities (from smog levels)

Hoboken Squat Cobblers
Hoboken Squat Cobblers
5 years ago

Alright…Here’s my $.02…For a possible Grey Top 20:

Stanton, M Cabrera, Treat Urner, Kershaw, Marte, Correa, Edwin, Blackmon, Desmond and Odor

Hoboken Squat Cobblers
Hoboken Squat Cobblers
Reply to  Grey
5 years ago

@Grey: 7 out of 10?

M
M
Reply to  Grey
5 years ago

@Grey: I’m guessing no Edwin, Desmond and Odor…though knowing Grey’s disdain for ranking SP’s high, K-Shaw could be outside the top 20

Quimmy
Quimmy
5 years ago

It’s the most wonderful time of the year….
Grey will be ranking
My monkey Im spanking
The top 10 list is here!
It’s the most wonderful time of the year!!!!!

Good stuff sir.

Jon
Jon
5 years ago

Baez or Jose Ramirez in a keep forever league?

Matt
Matt
5 years ago

If you could pick your draft position in a 10-team snake redraft league, what would you take? Would you go for #1 and take Trout and pick next at 20, 21? If not #1, would you forgo #2 and take something lower, say #8 (& #13, #28, …)? Any thoughts?

Cram It
Cram It
5 years ago

Keeper question coming tomorrow. Hold on to your hat!

Old School Brother
Old School Brother
5 years ago

Best day of the year! Top 10! It’s 65 here in Fort Worth Texas, sure feels like I could go out and watch a ballgame. I’ll forgive you for leaving Odor off the top 10 as long as he makes an appearance in the top 20

jack florida
jack florida
5 years ago

nice call on MOONLIGHT
saw it today, on your recommendation–excellent film, very well done

Duda Want to Build a Snowman?
Duda Want to Build a Snowman?
5 years ago

Sorry to bump from above, would any of the below beat out that $6 Khris in a keeper?

$5 Nunez
$9 Justin Turner
$19 Cruz
$21 Bautista
$4 Margot

Thanks again!

Thanks!

Duda Want to Build a Snowman?
Duda Want to Build a Snowman?
Reply to  Grey
5 years ago

@Grey: thanks!

The Lurve Guru
The Lurve Guru
5 years ago

Major humblebrag, but I have Mookie, Rizzo, Arenado, and Harper in my H2H Points keeper league. Ok maybe nothing humble about that brag. I also have Correa who I assume is going to show up soon in the rankings. 2017 Fantasy here we come!

Mark
Mark
5 years ago

5X5 Rotisserie league with W, ERA, K, WHIP and S as the pitching cats.

how do you rank the following 3 in order?

Carrasco, deGrom, Hendricks

Scott Kimmel
Scott Kimmel
5 years ago

Grey,

IIt’s my turn again for my minor league draft. I am look at C, OF and either RHP or LHP. I am looking at Francisco Mejia (C) CLE, Blake Rutherford, OF (NYY), do you have any suggestions for Pitching pitching prospects? If so then who? Or should I take Rutherford, and Mejia?

Eli Man Penguin Boy
Eli Man Penguin Boy
Reply to  Scott Kimmel
5 years ago

@Scott Kimmel: betting ralph says mejia. are pitching pitching prospects different than pitching hitting prospects? (or maybe it goes hitting pitching prospects)

regan
regan
5 years ago

I’m still trying to figure out why all the sudden last year everyone was hitting so many home runs. They were up 17.3% last year. The odds of this happening by chance were calculated at zero by some math dorks. I remember last year we were speculating the balls were wrapped tighter and I also heard the seams are smaller so it was harder for the pitchers to throw breaking pitches. I guess we won’t know for sure until after next year if this was an aberration or the new normal.

Branta
Branta
5 years ago

Time to pat Grey, and myself, on the back a little.

In my keeper league:
I traded for Kris Bryant the month before he was called up because I remember Grey saying he’d be good
I traded for Nolan Arenado the year before his full year breakout where he had the good 2nd half, right before our draft.
I traded Arenado away and still somehow got the best player in that deal (Mookie Betts). It helped that the guy I was trading with had Harper and Trout already.

All thanks to the advice I’ve received from Grey and the other writers here at Razzball.

Now my problem is (once Yahoo reopens baseball and I get to see where everyone is at) that I have too many guys and not enough keeper slots (and considering we keep 9, that’s p cool).

Charles
Charles
5 years ago

Schwing! Unfortunately ESPN very much agrees with your top 10. I’m confident your 11-20 won’t have 4 SPs though. Keep making fantasy baseball great, Grey!

Duda Want to Build a Snowman?
Duda Want to Build a Snowman?
5 years ago

Hey Grey! In a 12 team keeper, $3 inflation:

1. $30 Kershaw or $25 Scherzer and $16 Maeda?

2. $6 Khris or $16 Maeda ?

Thanks!

Duda Want to Build a Snowman?
Duda Want to Build a Snowman?
Reply to  Grey
5 years ago

@Grey: thanks!

Count de Monetball
Count de Monetball
5 years ago

I’m in a 6×5 roto league with tags as the other category, how would this affect Javy Baez’s ranking? >Donaldson?

regan
regan
5 years ago

How do you get an avatar? Is that like a perk only bestowed by the great one himself or can anyone get one? Can i have one if i buy you a daiquiri?

Old School Brother
Old School Brother
Reply to  Grey
5 years ago

@Grey: Chipmunk smoking a bowl, classic

Mr. Crab
Mr. Crab
5 years ago

Official start of 2017 Fantasy Baseball season: Razzball Top 10 !!! No big surprises though, only Goldy as 2nd. Fun starts today, thanks Grey !!

Big Odio
Big Odio
5 years ago

So sad about superfly snuka. I’m going to go jump off the top of my couch on to a pile of pillows in his honor.

Big Odio
Big Odio
Reply to  Grey
5 years ago

@Grey: well that too

DozierTheDozierian
DozierTheDozierian
5 years ago

These dudes said it: this is Christmas without bad music, Festivus without the grievances, and Passover without the bitter herbs, all rolled into one!

Maybe this is cheating ahead on the Razzball rankings Advent calendar, but in a keeper league, do you prefer Correa or Goldy? Curious to know how you think Goldy’s game will age since he’s coming up on 30 and gets a lot of value from those gorgeous, Nair’d legs of his.

David Niven
David Niven
5 years ago

The sun just rose.

Thanks Grey.

Landru
Landru
5 years ago

Who needs Groundhog Day to tell me winter is on its way out when I have you, G?

Stepping back from the ledge now to ponder upcoming keeper questions.

PK
PK
5 years ago

Oh yes, January Grey Rankings! It’s like Christmas, but without the damn music.

Moneyball
Moneyball
5 years ago

Jedi Master,
I can drop/trade until cutdown. 14 team league, 7×7 rotiss (OBP, SLG, Inn, Losses).
Weekly start 4 OF, 2 UT, no extra MI/CI, 6 SP, 2 Closers.
Correlation to winning: HR, OBP… quality SP (less manipulative with set #): K’s, WHIP.

Can keep any # of guys up to $120 and then auction cap is $300.
If forced to cut down right now, which way would you go?

1b A.Rizzo – $43
SS T.Story – $9
SS/3b M.Machado – $49
SP Y.Darvish – $15
= $116

Or could swap Rizzo or Machado (average OBP) with any 3 of these:
1b J.Bell – $13
2b/SS J.Segura – $12
3b/OF H.Perez – $16
SP S.Matz – $15
SP L.McCullers – $14

Love (like J.Bell, H.Perez) but prolly? too pricey / re-price in auction:
1b R.Hoskins – $10
3b R.Healy – $26
Every other pitcher I currently own.

This will help dictate my 2 month trading strategy so I won’t need to ask again since you’ll be golden shower inaugurating us with your rankings! TY & Happy MLK day!

Hometown Heroes
Hometown Heroes
5 years ago

Grey, thank you in advance! what do you think of this offseason in my 12 team AL only keeper league? We were out of it last year and acquired a lot of assets and have consolidated it this offseason. Do we get an A+ so far?
We traded
Tim Anderson $1
Hyun soo Kim $1
Carlos Rodon $1
Profar $10
Kyle Lewis ML
Frankie Montas ML
Mitch Moreland $1
Charlie Tilson $1
Alex Cobb $1
For
Devon Travis $1
Carlos Correa $16
Cole Hamels $14
Victor Martinez $20 (we will probably trade for a cheaper P)

FANTHEAD
5 years ago

Once again Grey provides content and ideas (with funnies as a bonus), not just ungrounded opinion. Thanks!

Because I am relying on the risky combo of Puig/Soler for one outfield-spot in my Forever League, I feel I need OF depth (however pedestrian some of my options):

1. Kind sir, Which of these players for OF SPEED DEPTH would you keep in a forever league:

Jarod Dyson, Roman Quinn, or Adam Eaton

2. Kinder Sir, which of these players for OF POP DEPTH would you keep in the same:

David Peralta, Carlos Gomez or (should he qualify) Evan Gattis?

I THANK YOU TWICE!!

peacecoast
peacecoast
5 years ago

yo sup Grey, we are soon to start another glorious year!
keeper question:
12T mixed roto 5×5: by round. Keep 5. 5 OF. 2 catchers.
Goldie (1), Bryant (2), Villar (20), Mazara (20), Gattis (20), Velasquez (27), Pollock (3).

I think goldie, bryant, villar, gattis are locks (2 catcher league remember). but torn on the last pick. please help!

peacecoast
peacecoast
Reply to  Grey
5 years ago

@Grey: oh interesting. I thought in a 2 catcher setup Gattis was a must have. thx

peacecoast
peacecoast
Reply to  Grey
5 years ago

@Grey: he would DH when not catching tho no?

peacecoast
peacecoast
Reply to  Grey
5 years ago

@Grey: oh…shite

Sport
Sport
5 years ago

The day after my Chiefs were eliminatd from the playoffs and 48 years of Super Bowl absence continues (it’s a Native American curse! Ask the Cleveland Indians), my immediate thoughts of awakening this morning were to see the Top Ten!!!! Thank you!!! My moarning was very short lived thanks to you!

I’m guessing the top twenty post will start with Miggy, E5, Nelson Cruz, before getting into Blackmon, Trea Turner, Marte, Springer, Correa, then two surprises for 19 and 20.

Robert
Robert
Reply to  Sport
5 years ago

@Sport: I like Turner as a first year in the top 20 and I would think no pitcher breaks the top 20, but what about Donaldson?

If I had to guess, I’d say the top 20 rounds out (in no particular order) with Miggy, Turner, Donaldson, E5, Seager, Marte, Story, Villar, and maybe Schwarber and Cruz. Just my guesses though.

Robert
Robert
Reply to  Grey
5 years ago

@Grey: oh that’s right, #10. Derp… I literally stopped after Harper for some reason…

Robert
Robert
Reply to  Grey
5 years ago

@Grey: Replace Donaldson with Blackmon then and that will be my guess.

I don't want to brag but i have irritable bowel syndrome
I don't want to brag but i have irritable bowel syndrome
Reply to  Sport
5 years ago

@Sport: redskins won in 83, 88, and 92.

I don't want to brag but i have irritable bowel syndrome
I don't want to brag but i have irritable bowel syndrome

@I don’t want to brag but i have irritable bowel syndrome: also in rugby, the middleton casino scalpers have won twice in since 1990

Juan
Juan
5 years ago

Keeper league 12 team. H2H.
we keep 10 players.

what are your thoughts on Dee Gordon?
I was offered Dee Gordon for Lorenzo Cain and my 3rd round pick ( the 13th Rounder).
what are your thoughts?
I have Trea @ 2nd but can move him to the OF. That means i would need to drop a guy live Vince Velazquez if i get Gordon.
is it worth it?

thanks,

Hoboken Squat Cobblers
Hoboken Squat Cobblers
5 years ago

Great stuff as usual Grizzle. Thanks for the rankings!

-I will no doubt defer to you and your far superior knowledge of the sabermetric stats, but I could see Arenado and Bryant hitting 8-10 more bombs each. So, they have some upside as well.

-Can’t put Donaldson in my top ten. Maybe Toronto signs Trumbo but as of now, without Edwin behind him, he’s a 2nd rounder for me.

Thanks again Grey!

Hoboken Squat Cobblers
Hoboken Squat Cobblers
Reply to  Grey
5 years ago

@Grey: Gotcha. That makes sense. And actually, not sure who I would replace him with…Stanton, M Cabrera, Treat Urner??? Maybe I’ll just skip my 2nd round pick.

Curious George Springer
Curious George Springer
Reply to  Grey
5 years ago

@Grey: Are you curious who is a second rounder and not a land mine?

Curious George Springer
Curious George Springer
Reply to  Grey
5 years ago

@Grey: exactly! I think my namesake is all upside in round 2.

Curious George Springer
Curious George Springer
Reply to  Curious George Springer
5 years ago

@Curious George Springer: now you’ll have to excuse me. I need to go fix some signs in a nearby park!

Robert
Robert
5 years ago

I’m looking forward to this year, because I’m coming off back to back wins in my keeper league with my good friends (decidedly not as good since I’ve been winning)

One guy will probably never trade with me again because as a Cubs fan he traded Arrieta for Betts last year and added that to my already kept Arenado for years and my recently kept Bryant.

3 of the top 6 players kept going into the draft. Why even bother having the season again this year. I’ll just keep the trophy on my mantle.

The only tough decision i have would be my 4th keeper, but I have a choice between Polanco and Votto. I know Votto is ranked higher, but I love the idea of upside and youth, But 2 (The kardashining), 1st base isn’t as deep as before like you said. Do I quietly keep Votto – soto voce? Or do I get loud and crazy with the onomatopoeia Polanco?

Count de Monetball
Count de Monetball
5 years ago

So you’re celebrating your birthday by doing your catchers post? On another note, sad to see Giancarlo is not in the top ten; that is the person I am most interested to see where you rank…

The discarded head of Ted Williams
5 years ago

Internet hi-five!

Great as always!

Dr. Kenneth Noisewater
Dr. Kenneth Noisewater
5 years ago

You break out the Seventh Seals to celebrate the end of when rankings come out questions?

Dr. Kenneth Noisewater
Dr. Kenneth Noisewater
Reply to  Grey
5 years ago

@Grey: Treat yo self!

I just bought shoes off this dude I know, and told him not to send them to me for over a month because I made a promise that I wouldn’t buy anymore until after vacation.

Dr. Kenneth Noisewater
Dr. Kenneth Noisewater
Reply to  Grey
5 years ago

@Grey: I don’t wear mine because of shit weather constantly….and because I have 30 other pairs I haven’t worn yet. You have no excuse. Throw some stain repellant on them and represent.

The pair I needed to buy and hide are purple. So, there.

Dr. Kenneth Noisewater
Dr. Kenneth Noisewater
Reply to  Grey
5 years ago

@Grey: Yeah I mentioned that I bought them the day you gave a Bergman reference.

Seriously have only worn them for about 10 minutes, so I’m no better.

Bill
Bill
5 years ago

Who in your top 10 are you buying or selling in Keep Forever leagues?

The Fridge
The Fridge
5 years ago

Forget Punxsutawney Phil….Grey’s first post of the season signals the beginning of spring!!

Looking forward to a great 2017…

DonnieB
DonnieB
5 years ago

Welcome to 2017 Grey. Keeper question in a 12 team auction league. Cap level is $300.We can keep eight. Already have: Betts($20); Arenado($13); CSeager($10); Syndergaard($1); Chapman($15). Last three I need frm following:
Yelich($22). Machado($56). Betances($10)
Segura ($10). A Reyes ($10)
Castellanos($4). Salazar($10)
Ozuna($2). S Marte. ($43)
Top players go for $50-70. Only Trout and Harper of your top 10 will be available in draft. If I keep Machado,I would have 3 of top 8 players for a total of $89. It’s not Betts,Goldy and Kris but not bad. Would you keep Machado? And what other two or three( if no Machado)? Thanks to the best expert/writer in fantasy baseball and its not close!

DonnieB
DonnieB
Reply to  Grey
5 years ago

Thanks. That was my thoughts as well. Great MI of Segura,Seager and Machado!

Clogged Rosterman
Clogged Rosterman
5 years ago

I have a ball with a Dale Sveum autograph in a case on a shelf in my parents’ house.

Natty Boh
Natty Boh
5 years ago

And with this post my wife realizes she loses me for the next 10 months.

ERad
ERad
5 years ago

All is right again in the world.

Happy birthday too, no? I need to get out more

Paul
Paul
5 years ago

Keeper Question:
Can only keep two of these guys
Either Trout or Goldschmidt round 1
Bryant round 4
Machado round 5

thatguy
thatguy
Reply to  Grey
5 years ago

@Grey: Dang, I love Trout, but I say grab Bryant and Machado. Can’t beat that huge value.

Big Mike
Big Mike
5 years ago

Merry Christmas to us!!!! Yay!!

So, I should keep Mookie, Rizzo and Arenado in my keeper league, huh?

Warren
Warren
5 years ago

Ok, now I am going to try to work out a Donaldson + for Arenado trade before keepers lock!

Paulito
Paulito
5 years ago

Who would you rather in a keeper league: Goldy or Harper?

(I currently own Goldschmidt but he is turning 30 soon…)

Dodger Rabbit
Dodger Rabbit
5 years ago

Yea!
It’s 2nd Christmas!

RePete
RePete
5 years ago

Can’t wait for another season. After becoming the champ in my 14-team league of record last year, I’m expecting that I’ll make some impulsive ”why not, I already won it all last year” trades. Hopefully I don’t destroy my team in the process and compete again this year. Care to weigh in on what my team name should be based on my keepers (Betts, Bogaerts, Trea Turner, J.D. Martinez, Strasburg/Carrasco)?

Fenway Phemons (last year’s name)
Bogey and the Betts (Benny and the Jets/Beauty and the Beast)
A TreaTur Among Us (A Traitor Among Us; favorite so far being a Nats fan)
Scared of the Bogeyman
Trick or Trea’T
The Stras that Broke the Hamels back (if I draft Hamels)

*Nothing vulgar, no appreciated in my league

RePete
RePete
Reply to  RePete
5 years ago

@RePete: #first one is supposed to be Fenway Phenoms

Tweak
Tweak
Reply to  RePete
5 years ago

@RePete:

Here’s Looking At You, Trea (Bogey and Turner)
Strasablanca (Bogey and Stras)

Count de Monetball
Count de Monetball
Reply to  Grey
5 years ago

How about Grey only lasted 15 seconds with Canseco…

I don't want to brag but i have irritable bowel syndrome
I don't want to brag but i have irritable bowel syndrome
Reply to  Grey
5 years ago

@Grey: probably speaks more to her sperm gathering skills than anything bad about him though.

Hawk
Hawk
5 years ago

This post makes me so happy….

….because I own 3 of the top 10 in my big money keep forever league. SUCK ON THAT LEAGUEMATES MUAHAHAHAHAHH!!!!

And Now the Jon Lovitz Dancers!
And Now the Jon Lovitz Dancers!
Reply to  Hawk
5 years ago

@Hawk: you best hope they don’t actually read this. not from the taunting of course.

Copperhead Road
Copperhead Road
5 years ago

Oh glorious day. Opening day of fantasy baseball. Thanks, Grey!

Burningbridges247
Burningbridges247
5 years ago

And so it begins…… Welcome back, Grey!

Tweak
Tweak
5 years ago

Great to see the Rankings get started up again. Only a month or so until Pitchers and Catchers.

I agree that 1B feels super shallow this year. I’ve been working on my draft strategy and have found myself taking a 1B with almost every 1st pick (unless someone really drops the ball and hands me Betts). On the other hand, 3B feels really deep. We’ll see when real drafts kick off, but I feel like I might end up not taking an OF until the 4th rd. Ugh.

Tigres
Tigres
5 years ago

Welcome back, Grey’s Rankings! Looking forward to the next 398,500 words.

Keeper league Q: 1 yr of Lester for 3 yrs of Dahl?

FKA Ralph
FKA Ralph
Reply to  Tigres
5 years ago

@Tigres: Dahl

zombie
5 years ago

Christmas morning has arrived! Thanks in advance, Grey. & on a personal note, your kid looks great. Finally a hint of a stache. Chip off the ol’block! Let him rank the DHs.

M
M
5 years ago

Thanks Grey-happy 2017!

Betts is obviously awesome and like you said could be #2 overall, yes he is 23,24ish and you mention his 13.6 HR/FB rate as something that could potentially improve, are you concerned with the amount of “just-enough” HR’s he hit last year or with some added muscle this year it’s not something to be concerned about?

Thanks for the great work!

BK1
BK1
Reply to  Grey
5 years ago

Agree. Is my thinking flawed that his 42 doubles (6th in MLB) should provide comfort. Like you said, he’s not falling back to 18..worst case he’ll be high 20s.

Malicious Phenoms
Malicious Phenoms
5 years ago

The beginning of the most wonderful time of the year!

“The one constant through all the years, has been baseball. America has rolled by like an army of steamrollers. It’s been erased like a blackboard, rebuilt, and erased again. But baseball has marked the time. This field, this game, is a part of our past, It reminds us of all that once was good, and that could be again.”

Count de Monetball
Count de Monetball
Reply to  Malicious Phenoms
5 years ago

Best quote ever from darth earl jones

Duda Want to Build a Snowman?
Duda Want to Build a Snowman?
5 years ago

HUMidiyeeeeeeahaw!!!

JeF WiTh 1 F
JeF WiTh 1 F
5 years ago

Aaaaaaaaaaaaaaand we’re back!!

Traded a Fister for a BJ
Traded a Fister for a BJ
5 years ago

Thanks Grey for working on a holiday!!! So excited to see the rankings posted. I like your top 10 and don’t really see anyone falling to the second round in a 12-teamer except Rizzo or perhaps a very small chance for Harper.

Ante GALIC
Ante GALIC
5 years ago

Grey!

Really nice write-up. Just when you think that this can’t be more exciting – you make it more exciting!! Well done.

a. Think your assessment of Goldy is pretty accurate. Add to this that he had little or no lineup support in 2016 and your argument is even more killer. With Yasmany having another year under his belt and Pollock healthy Goldy could get more fastballs (just my theory) and that could lead to better stats.

b. #3 Mookie is my favorite order!!!

Cheers,
Ante

Boomer19
Boomer19
5 years ago

Thanks Grey. Now it feels like a new season of fantasy baseball! Great work.

Simply Fred
Simply Fred
5 years ago

You are the greatest!