Finally, we come to the end of the 2014 fantasy baseball rankings. (Can we start games already?) A little birdie told me we’re opening up our commenter fantasy leagues on Monday.  Then the little birdie pooped on my shoulder and I thought it was blue cheese and I put it on a cracker and– Wait, where was I?  Okay, you know that I like Avisail Garcia more than Leonys Martin in the top 60 outfielders for 2014 fantasy baseball. You know I like Alcides Escobar more than Asdrubal Cabrera as seen at the top 20 shortstops for 2014 fantasy baseball, but you don’t know how I feel about where these guys fall in the bigger picture.  Is Alcides above Avisail?  So to show you where I think players fall in relation to each other in 2014 fantasy baseball drafts, I’m putting together a top 400 for 2014 fantasy baseball.  This still needs to be taken with a grain of salt.  If you have a shortstop already and Alcides is still on the board at pick 200, you don’t draft him if you see Leonys Martin and you need an outfielder, even though Leonys is below Alcides on this list.  So I might take someone at 200 over someone at 180?  Yes, every draft is different.  With the top 10, there’s almost no latitude.  With the top 100, there’s a decent amount of latitude.  With a top 400, there’s lots of latitude.  You taking someone at 185 is more or less the same as someone else taking someone at 235.  So if you see someone who’s ranked at 250th, but want them at 200, then do what you do.  Because of the length of the top 400, there’s no pithy comments with each name, but you kinda do need to know what I’m thinking for each name, so I advise you go over each position in the 2014 fantasy baseball rankings. The top 100 and top 400 is what I would have at my drafts, along with the top 20 rankings posts.  If I were drafting online, I’d also use the Fantasy Baseball War Room (which is hopefully ready on Tuesday; this is out of my control, someone else needs to fill out the Excel spreadsheet).  Also, see our list of all players with multiple position eligibility.  Finally, here is this top 400 for 2014 fantasy baseball without any of this jibber-jabbering.  Anyway, here’s the top 400 for 2014 fantasy baseball:

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# Name Team ESPN Y! $ AB R HR RBI SB AVG IP W SV ERA WHIP K
Ronald Acuna Jr. ATL OF OF 40 219 44 15 36 15 0.287
Christian Yelich MIL OF OF 40 204 43 14 41 6 0.312
Mike Trout LAA OF OF 38 190 40 16 43 4 0.285
Cody Bellinger LAD 1B/OF 1B/OF 38 208 40 16 43 4 0.292
Trevor Story COL SS SS 35 216 39 14 38 6 0.293
Mookie Betts LAD OF OF 35 218 43 10 33 7 0.292
Francisco Lindor CLE SS SS 34 229 41 13 33 8 0.287
Trea Turner WSH SS SS 33 232 41 7 23 15 0.287
Juan Soto WSH OF OF 32 199 37 13 40 4 0.294
Fernando Tatis Jr. SD SS SS 31 220 39 12 25 11 0.259
Jose Ramirez CLE 3B 3B 31 213 33 10 36 10 0.263
Nolan Arenado COL 3B 3B 30 219 39 15 42 1 0.306
Anthony Rendon LAA 3B 3B 30 194 39 12 41 1 0.312
Freddie Freeman ATL 1B 1B 30 223 39 11 40 3 0.303
Pete Alonso NYM 1B 1B 30 218 35 16 41 0 0.263
Alex Bregman HOU SS/3B SS/3B 30 204 38 11 40 3 0.284
Gerrit Cole NYY SP SP 30 77 6 0 2.61 0.93 109
Bryce Harper PHI OF OF 28 208 39 14 41 4 0.261
Rafael Devers BOS 3B 3B 27 219 40 12 42 3 0.303
Adalberto Mondesi KC SS SS 27 206 31 6 29 19 0.258
Matt Olson OAK 1B 1B 26 224 35 14 40 0 0.273
J.D. Martinez BOS OF OF 26 191 34 12 36 1 0.288
Javier Baez CHC SS SS 26 220 38 11 40 6 0.286
Xander Bogaerts BOS SS SS 25 221 39 13 41 2 0.307
Jacob deGrom NYM SP SP 24 77 6 0 2.58 0.96 98
Jack Flaherty STL SP SP 24 75 6 0 2.69 0.99 89
Gleyber Torres NYY 2B/SS 2B/SS 23 204 33 12 35 2 0.264
Shane Bieber CLE SP SP 23 76 6 0 2.81 1.01 92
Jose Altuve HOU 2B 2B 23 216 30 8 34 3 0.303
George Springer HOU OF OF 23 204 40 11 31 2 0.281
Max Scherzer WSH SP SP 23 66 5 0 2.83 1.02 93
Walker Buehler LAD SP SP 23 73 6 0 2.91 1.03 87
Stephen Strasburg WSH SP SP 23 71 6 0 3.03 1.03 83
Starling Marte ARI OF OF 22 215 36 8 32 8 0.289
Jonathan Villar MIA 2B/SS 2B/SS 22 209 31 6 25 11 0.257
Ketel Marte ARI 2B/OF 2B/SS/ OF 22 221 35 10 29 3 0.308
Yordan Alvarez HOU DH OF 22 197 33 13 39 1 0.291
Ozzie Albies ATL 2B 2B 22 232 38 9 29 6 0.291
Keston Hiura MIL 2B 2B 22 211 30 10 34 4 0.264
Anthony Rizzo CHC 1B 1B 22 209 34 11 39 1 0.295
Jose Abreu CHW 1B 1B 22 225 33 13 40 1 0.280
Lucas Giolito CHW SP SP 21 73 6 0 3.27 1.05 90
Patrick Corbin WSH SP SP 21 75 6 0 3.36 1.09 90
Eloy Jimenez CHW OF OF 21 216 32 13 38 0 0.284
Austin Meadows TB OF OF 21 215 34 10 33 4 0.277
Manny Machado SD SS/3B SS/3B 20 219 33 13 38 2 0.269
Eugenio Suarez CIN 3B 3B 20 215 30 14 39 1 0.274
Luis Castillo CIN SP SP 19 73 6 0 3.32 1.09 88
Mike Clevinger CLE SP SP 19 71 6 0 3.07 1.06 83
Chris Paddack SD SP SP 19 64 4 0 3.03 0.96 73
Jorge Soler KC OF OF 19 216 31 13 38 1 0.271
Yoan Moncada CHW 3B 3B 19 206 31 10 35 4 0.272
Matt Chapman OAK 3B 3B 19 214 35 14 39 0 0.256
Vladimir Guerrero Jr. TOR 3B 3B 19 211 29 11 34 0 0.291
Max Muncy LAD 1B/2B/ 3B 1B/2B/ 3B 18 187 34 13 36 1 0.265
Marcus Semien OAK SS SS 18 229 40 9 30 4 0.282
Yu Darvish CHC SP SP 18 67 5 0 3.41 1.09 86
Tyler Glasnow TB SP SP 18 63 5 0 3.77 1.20 73
Charlie Morton TB SP SP 17 71 6 0 3.36 1.10 86
Ramon Laureano OAK OF OF 17 213 30 10 29 6 0.272
Josh Donaldson MIN 3B 3B 17 189 35 12 36 1 0.254
Mike Moustakas CIN 2B/3B 2B/3B 17 211 29 13 33 1 0.252
Tim Anderson CHW SS SS 17 216 32 8 27 8 0.272
Bo Bichette TOR SS SS 17 218 36 7 27 7 0.284
Sonny Gray CIN SP SP 17 73 5 0 3.27 1.10 80
Eddie Rosario MIN OF OF 16 214 35 11 40 1 0.281
Nelson Cruz MIN DH DH 16 176 33 13 37 0 0.283
Giancarlo Stanton NYY OF OF 16 190 31 13 33 1 0.272
Aaron Nola PHI SP SP 16 78 6 0 3.51 1.07 87
Aaron Judge NYY OF OF 16 187 39 15 34 1 0.262
Charlie Blackmon COL OF OF 16 211 39 10 29 1 0.288
Blake Snell TB SP SP 16 57 4 0 3.12 1.09 70
Justin Verlander HOU SP SP 16 56 5 0 2.66 0.98 71
Zack Greinke HOU SP SP 16 76 6 0 3.44 1.09 68
Paul Goldschmidt STL 1B 1B 16 217 34 11 36 1 0.264
Clayton Kershaw LAD SP SP 16 61 5 0 3.42 1.05 60
Josh Hader MIL RP RP 16 26 2 15 2.48 0.84 47
Kirby Yates SD RP RP 16 23 1 16 2.37 0.91 36
Aroldis Chapman NYY RP RP 16 22 1 14 2.41 1.10 34
Jose Berrios MIN SP SP 16 75 6 0 3.54 1.11 76
Trevor Bauer CIN SP SP 15 80 5 0 3.61 1.16 96
Kris Bryant CHC 3B/OF 3B/OF 15 207 38 10 30 1 0.278
Joey Gallo TEX OF OF 15 184 28 12 33 2 0.247
Tommy Pham SD OF OF 15 214 29 6 26 9 0.271
Oscar Mercado CLE OF OF 15 209 29 6 23 11 0.261
Luis Robert CHW OF OF 15 190 29 8 22 9 0.248
Victor Robles WSH OF OF 15 210 31 5 23 12 0.261
Marcell Ozuna ATL OF OF 14 216 31 11 36 2 0.274
Michael Conforto NYM OF OF 14 216 34 12 38 2 0.254
Nicholas Castellanos CIN OF OF 14 225 33 9 30 1 0.277
Lance Lynn TEX SP SP 14 76 6 0 3.58 1.20 88
Eduardo Rodriguez BOS SP SP 14 76 5 0 3.64 1.24 81
Josh Bell PIT 1B 1B 14 203 32 11 36 1 0.271
Yuli Gurriel HOU 1B/3B 1B/3B 14 206 26 9 30 2 0.294
DJ LeMahieu NYY 1B/2B/ 3B 1B/2B/ 3B 14 221 35 6 29 2 0.288
Eduardo Escobar ARI 2B/3B 2B/3B 14 211 29 10 35 1 0.264
Whit Merrifield KC 2B/OF 1B/2B/ OF 14 226 34 5 26 6 0.305
Jeff McNeil NYM 2B/3B/ OF 2B/3B/ OF 14 218 38 7 26 2 0.306
Brandon Woodruff MIL SP SP 13 68 6 0 3.43 1.12 77
Dinelson Lamet SD SP SP 13 62 4 0 3.86 1.22 81
Roberto Osuna HOU RP RP 13 23 1 14 2.78 0.98 26
Yasiel Puig FA OF OF 13 200 27 9 29 5 0.269
J.T. Realmuto PHI C C 13 195 34 9 30 1 0.278
Hyun-Jin Ryu TOR SP SP 13 62 5 0 3.32 1.09 57
Gary Sanchez NYY C C 13 158 25 13 30 0 0.236
Kenley Jansen LAD RP RP 13 22 1 13 2.92 1.01 29
Yasmani Grandal CHW C/1B C/1B 13 187 27 9 29 1 0.241
Zac Gallen ARI SP SP 13 63 5 0 3.42 1.17 73
Michael Brantley HOU OF OF 13 210 31 7 30 1 0.293
Zack Wheeler PHI SP SP 13 74 5 0 3.67 1.22 75
Jake Odorizzi MIN SP SP 13 64 5 0 3.48 1.24 68
Taylor Rogers MIN RP RP 13 24 1 13 2.54 1.01 29
Andrew Benintendi BOS OF OF 13 211 34 7 31 3 0.284
Liam Hendriks OAK RP RP 12 25 1 13 2.46 1.01 36
Brad Hand CLE RP RP 12 23 2 13 3.09 1.17 32
Shohei Ohtani LAA DH DH 12 154 20 7 25 3 0.284
Franmil Reyes CLE OF OF 12 201 27 14 33 0 0.271
Craig Kimbrel CHC RP RP 12 20 1 11 3.17 1.12 29
Kyle Schwarber CHC OF OF 12 192 27 14 31 1 0.257
Brandon Workman BOS RP RP 12 23 1 12 3.02 1.10 28
Cavan Biggio TOR 2B 1B/2B/ OF 12 211 26 9 29 7 0.246
Shohei Ohtani LAA SP SP 12 38 3 0 3.48 1.23 45
Nick Anderson TB RP RP 12 25 2 11 2.91 1.03 38
Ken Giles TOR RP RP 12 21 1 10 2.38 1.02 31
Miguel Sano MIN 3B 1B/3B 12 194 30 16 35 0 0.241
Hunter Dozier KC 3B/OF 1B/3B/ OF 11 202 29 11 33 3 0.255
Carlos Carrasco CLE SP SP 11 46 3 0 3.54 1.17 55
Christian Walker ARI 1B 1B 11 205 30 11 34 1 0.257
Corey Kluber TEX SP SP 11 59 4 0 3.81 1.17 61
Robbie Ray ARI SP SP 11 69 4 0 4.06 1.35 89
Scott Kingery PHI 3B/OF 2B/SS/ 3B/OF 11 216 30 8 26 9 0.271
Amed Rosario NYM SS SS 11 214 33 6 26 9 0.294
Carlos Correa HOU SS SS 11 191 30 10 33 1 0.271
Didi Gregorius PHI SS SS 11 202 24 9 30 2 0.268
Max Fried ATL SP SP 10 64 5 0 3.77 1.27 68
Danny Santana TEX 1B/OF 1B/2B/ SS/3B/ OF 10 195 29 8 31 5 0.262
Mike Soroka ATL SP SP 10 68 4 0 3.66 1.10 56
Max Kepler MIN OF OF 10 200 31 12 34 1 0.250
Madison Bumgarner ARI SP SP 10 70 5 0 3.72 1.12 68
Willie Calhoun TEX OF OF 10 190 25 10 29 2 0.282
Rhys Hoskins PHI 1B 1B 10 216 31 12 36 1 0.233
Kyle Hendricks CHC SP SP 9 68 5 0 3.41 1.12 57
Edwin Encarnacion CHW 1B 1B 9 177 29 12 33 0 0.244
Carlos Santana CLE 1B 1B 9 210 31 10 33 1 0.247
Kenta Maeda MIN SP SP 9 56 4 0 3.67 1.10 60
Dansby Swanson ATL SS SS 9 210 30 8 27 4 0.274
Marcus Stroman NYM SP SP 9 67 5 0 3.47 1.27 64
J.D. Davis NYM 3B/OF 3B/OF 8 198 27 10 30 1 0.288
Willson Contreras CHC C C 8 157 24 9 26 0 0.258
Lourdes Gurriel Jr. TOR OF 2B/OF 8 211 29 10 31 3 0.252
Tommy Edman STL 2B/3B 2B/3B/ OF 8 210 32 5 21 10 0.284
David Dahl COL OF OF 8 200 33 10 24 2 0.281
Brandon Lowe TB 2B 1B/2B/ OF 8 167 22 9 25 3 0.257
Khris Davis OAK DH DH 8 214 27 13 30 0 0.238
Raisel Iglesias CIN RP RP 7 26 1 12 3.61 1.18 30
Edwin Diaz NYM RP RP 7 23 1 13 3.12 1.15 38
Byron Buxton MIN OF OF 7 161 29 7 23 7 0.256
Kyle Tucker HOU OF OF 7 140 17 6 20 4 0.252
Mitch Garver MIN C C 7 151 21 10 27 0 0.261
Mallex Smith SEA OF OF 7 177 21 2 19 11 0.241
Julio Urias LAD SP SP 7 53 4 0 3.13 1.10 61
Michael Chavis BOS 1B/2B 1B/2B/ 3B 7 190 29 10 31 2 0.249
Frankie Montas OAK SP SP 7 60 5 0 3.45 1.14 65
Joc Pederson LAD 1B/OF 1B/OF 7 149 26 11 23 1 0.251
James Paxton NYY SP SP 7 63 6 0 3.88 1.19 73
Luke Weaver ARI SP SP 7 51 3 0 3.55 1.12 55
Ryan McMahon COL 2B/3B 1B/2B/ 3B 6 190 27 10 32 1 0.248
Andrew Heaney LAA SP SP 6 58 3 0 3.88 1.22 68
Jesus Luzardo OAK SP SP 6 39 3 0 3.18 1.11 50
Hector Neris PHI RP RP 6 23 1 12 3.04 1.05 31
Alex Colome CHW RP RP 6 23 1 13 3.56 1.15 21
Ian Happ CHC OF 1B/2B/ 3B/OF 6 169 23 9 26 2 0.266
Gavin Lux LAD 2B 2B 6 149 20 6 19 4 0.271
Ryan Braun MIL OF OF 6 173 27 7 28 3 0.262
Elvis Andrus TEX SS SS 6 221 31 3 26 10 0.281
Andrew McCutchen PHI OF OF 6 187 31 9 25 1 0.257
Willy Adames TB SS SS 6 210 27 9 30 2 0.268
Shin-Soo Choo TEX OF OF 6 194 30 7 21 2 0.259
Paul DeJong STL SS SS 6 214 29 11 34 3 0.241
Jorge Polanco MIN SS SS 6 221 33 8 28 2 0.277
Miguel Andujar NYY DH DH 5 181 26 10 30 0 0.284
Corey Seager LAD SS SS 5 194 31 9 34 0 0.275
Jose Leclerc TEX RP RP 5 24 1 10 3.43 1.27 34
Yoshitomo Tsutsugo TB OF OF 5 167 23 10 27 0 0.248
Sean Manaea OAK SP SP 5 58 3 0 3.91 1.15 51
Shogo Akiyama CIN OF OF 5 164 30 6 23 4 0.284
David Peralta ARI OF OF 5 190 31 8 27 1 0.282
Bryan Reynolds PIT OF OF 5 219 33 6 26 1 0.281
David Price LAD SP SP 5 51 4 0 3.87 1.25 53
Hansel Robles LAA RP RP 5 24 1 11 3.04 1.06 26
Gregory Polanco PIT OF OF 5 181 26 7 26 3 0.247
Alex Verdugo BOS OF OF 5 168 29 6 21 2 0.291
Archie Bradley ARI RP RP 5 25 1 11 3.77 1.35 28
Jo Adell LAA OF OF 5 143 17 5 19 3 0.257
Mike Minor TEX SP SP 5 57 4 0 4.04 1.27 53
Kolten Wong STL 2B 2B 5 191 29 3 24 6 0.282
German Marquez COL SP SP 4 67 4 0 4.07 1.18 70
Lance McCullers Jr. HOU SP SP 4 45 4 0 3.67 1.19 49
Matthew Boyd DET SP SP 4 67 4 0 4.27 1.21 77
Sean Doolittle WSH RP RP 4 21 1 10 3.56 1.18 21
Mike Foltynewicz ATL SP SP 4 54 3 0 4.21 1.27 50
Joe Musgrove PIT SP SP 4 66 4 0 3.87 1.19 62
Renato Nunez BAL 1B 1B/3B 4 204 27 12 34 0 0.241
Carlos Martinez STL SP SP 4 47 3 0 3.51 1.25 50
Giovanny Gallegos STL RP RP 4 29 2 6 2.86 1.02 35
Kevin Newman PIT 2B/SS 2B/SS/ 3B 4 195 29 3 23 7 0.289
Will Smith LAD C C 4 176 23 9 27 1 0.262
Mark Melancon ATL RP RP 3 24 1 7 3.77 1.34 24
Adrian Houser MIL SP SP 3 59 4 0 3.81 1.22 60
Joe Jimenez DET RP RP 3 23 1 10 3.96 1.24 28
Jean Segura PHI SS SS 3 208 27 4 26 5 0.276
Joey Lucchesi SD SP SP 3 67 4 0 4.05 1.24 65
Ian Kennedy KC RP RP 3 23 1 11 3.61 1.24 24
Rougned Odor TEX 2B 2B 3 182 23 9 26 3 0.212
Caleb Smith MIA SP SP 3 66 3 0 4.32 1.26 72
Jonathan Schoop DET 2B 2B 3 192 23 9 26 0 0.241
Garrett Hampson COL 2B/OF 2B/SS/ OF 3 113 19 4 16 6 0.251
Brendan McKay TB SP SP 3 41 3 0 3.87 1.18 49
Will Smith ATL RP RP 3 23 3 6 3.07 1.11 31
Jon Gray COL SP SP 3 61 4 0 4.28 1.34 62
Andrelton Simmons LAA SS SS 3 205 25 5 26 3 0.271
Christian Vazquez BOS C C/1B 3 173 21 7 25 2 0.272
Jurickson Profar SD 2B 2B/OF 3 164 20 7 22 3 0.231
Mychal Givens BAL RP RP 3 24 0 6 4.38 1.21 31
Anthony DeSclafani CIN SP SP 3 64 4 0 3.76 1.18 64
Ryan Yarbrough TB SP SP 3 57 5 0 3.42 1.03 48
Seth Lugo NYM RP RP 3 31 2 1 2.44 1.02 39
Yonny Chirinos TB SP SP 3 51 3 0 3.72 1.08 45
Aaron Civale CLE SP SP 3 47 3 0 3.66 1.07 39
Brian Anderson MIA 3B/OF 3B/OF 3 205 27 9 30 1 0.271
Garrett Richards SD SP SP 3 47 3 0 3.64 1.28 53
Dellin Betances NYM RP RP 2 21 2 2 2.34 1.02 35
Gio Urshela NYY 3B 3B 2 181 24 7 26 1 0.302
Johnny Cueto SF SP SP 2 62 3 0 3.77 1.22 50
Justin Turner LAD 3B 3B 2 182 26 8 27 1 0.278
Dallas Keuchel CHW SP SP 2 68 4 0 3.86 1.32 53
Matt Barnes BOS RP RP 2 25 2 2 3.21 1.22 39
Keone Kela PIT RP RP 2 21 1 6 3.51 1.18 24
Tommy La Stella LAA 2B/3B 2B/3B 2 173 23 6 25 0 0.291
Diego Castillo TB RP RP 2 26 2 3 3.02 1.14 30
Tony Watson SF RP RP 2 23 1 5 4.07 1.24 21
Brandon Kintzler MIA RP RP 2 23 1 5 4.21 1.36 19
Adam Eaton WSH OF OF 2 190 33 5 20 5 0.282
Starlin Castro WSH 2B/3B 2B/3B 2 211 20 9 25 1 0.266
Jorge Alfaro MIA C C 2 168 20 7 23 2 0.259
Wade Davis COL RP RP 2 18 1 7 4.87 1.48 19
Wilson Ramos NYM C C 2 168 20 5 25 0 0.291
Salvador Perez KC C C 2 174 20 8 27 0 0.238
Robinson Chirinos TEX C C 2 153 19 6 21 1 0.231
Carson Kelly ARI C C 2 153 19 6 19 0 0.257
Francisco Mejia SD C C 2 150 16 6 19 1 0.273
Omar Narvaez MIL C C 2 127 21 7 24 0 0.281
Nick Madrigal CHW 2B 2B 1 120 19 1 8 8 0.293
Mitch Keller PIT SP SP 1 55 3 0 4.17 1.30 61
Kevin Gausman SF SP SP 1 49 3 0 4.09 1.30 47
Jose Urquidy HOU SP SP 1 48 3 0 4.07 1.14 47
Lorenzo Cain MIL OF OF 1 202 26 4 20 5 0.258
Pablo Lopez MIA SP SP 1 56 3 0 4.11 1.19 49
Kevin Pillar BOS OF OF 1 180 23 7 24 4 0.264
Dustin May LAD SP SP 1 39 2 0 3.48 1.09 36
Zach Eflin PHI SP SP 1 66 4 0 4.04 1.29 58
Nick Solak TEX DH 2B/3B 1 180 26 8 22 3 0.268
Justin Upton LAA OF OF 1 182 25 9 29 1 0.223
Zach Plesac CLE SP SP 1 53 4 0 4.12 1.19 49
Mark Canha OAK OF 1B/OF 1 158 26 8 28 1 0.261
Daniel Hudson WSH RP RP 1 26 2 3 3.71 1.27 26
Steven Matz NYM SP SP 1 59 4 0 4.16 1.29 58
Matt Magill SEA RP RP 1 22 0 3 4.32 1.36 27
C.J. Cron DET 1B 1B 1 194 22 10 26 0 0.262
Yoshihisa Hirano SEA RP RP 1 21 0 3 4.34 1.32 23
Chris Bassitt OAK SP SP 1 60 4 0 3.96 1.23 57
Sandy Alcantara MIA SP SP 1 71 3 0 4.29 1.34 61
Josh James HOU SP SP 1 41 3 0 4.11 1.28 51
A.J. Puk OAK SP SP 1 57 4 0 3.87 1.34 64
Jordan Yamamoto MIA SP SP 1 51 3 0 4.14 1.21 53
Justus Sheffield SEA SP SP 1 51 3 0 4.23 1.41 53
Mauricio Dubon SF 2B 2B/SS 0 190 26 4 20 5 0.276
Jose Iglesias BAL SS SS 0 191 29 3 20 2 0.266
Freddy Peralta MIL SP SP 0 28 3 2 4.29 1.39 38
Ryan Pressly HOU RP RP 0 25 2 1 2.98 1.02 34
Colin Poche TB RP RP 0 20 1 2 3.21 1.05 28
Seth Brown OAK OF OF 0 149 19 8 21 2 0.277
Derek Fisher TOR OF OF 0 151 19 8 23 4 0.225
Scott Oberg COL RP RP 0 19 1 2 3.01 1.18 20
Ryne Stanek MIA RP RP 0 27 1 2 4.09 1.34 29
Kyle Crick PIT RP RP 0 24 1 3 4.24 1.36 31
Avisail Garcia MIL OF OF 0 151 20 8 21 1 0.284
Ryan Helsley STL RP RP 0 27 3 1 3.92 1.31 27
Dylan Carlson STL OF OF 0 149 25 8 27 4 0.244
Austin Hays BAL OF OF 0 188 24 7 19 4 0.244
Andrew Miller STL RP RP 0 22 1 3 4.13 1.34 27
Eric Hosmer SD 1B 1B 0 218 25 7 27 1 0.261
Evan White SEA 1B 1B 0 171 21 6 24 1 0.263
Tyler O’Neill STL OF OF 0 168 23 9 26 1 0.243
Drew Pomeranz SD RP RP 0 30 2 1 3.37 1.07 39
Daniel Murphy COL 1B 1B 0 169 25 6 28 0 0.271
Trent Grisham SD OF OF -1 168 24 7 19 5 0.254
Sam Hilliard COL OF OF -1 116 13 7 19 2 0.242
Christin Stewart DET OF OF -1 167 19 8 21 0 0.238
Isan Diaz MIA 2B 2B -1 189 22 8 25 2 0.235
Garrett Cooper MIA 1B/OF 1B/OF -1 167 21 6 24 0 0.271
Austin Riley ATL OF 1B/3B/ OF -1 151 21 7 24 1 0.241
Sean Murphy OAK C C -1 143 15 6 18 0 0.251
Masahiro Tanaka NYY SP SP -1 58 4 0 4.31 1.26 50
Sergio Romo MIN RP RP -1 21 1 1 3.23 1.14 22
Tom Murphy SEA C C -1 142 16 7 19 1 0.233
Joakim Soria OAK RP RP -1 23 1 1 3.67 1.09 25
Luis Urias MIL 2B/SS 2B/SS -1 178 16 5 18 2 0.262
Carter Kieboom WSH SS SS -1 128 13 5 17 1 0.291
Robinson Cano NYM 2B 2B -1 172 23 6 24 0 0.251
Hanser Alberto BAL 2B/3B 2B/3B -1 199 27 5 18 1 0.293
Luis Arraez MIN 2B/OF 2B/SS/ 3B/OF -1 157 19 1 13 1 0.319
Anthony Santander BAL OF OF -1 208 24 9 28 1 0.267
Shane Greene ATL RP RP -1 24 1 1 3.02 1.22 25
Nick Senzel CIN OF OF -1 135 17 4 16 4 0.267
Danny Jansen TOR C C -1 140 17 5 19 1 0.241
Aaron Hicks NYY OF OF -1 140 20 6 23 2 0.244
Jesse Winker CIN OF OF -2 172 26 6 19 0 0.284
Rafael Montero TEX RP RP -2 25 1 1 3.19 1.04 27
Nomar Mazara CHW OF OF -2 177 24 8 23 1 0.263
Travis D’Arnaud ATL C/1B C/1B -2 140 17 6 18 0 0.246
Mike Fiers OAK SP SP -2 62 4 0 4.09 1.19 45
Ty Buttrey LAA RP RP -2 27 1 1 3.30 1.21 30
Yadier Molina STL C C -2 156 18 4 20 2 0.264
Miguel Cabrera DET 1B 1B -2 177 23 6 25 0 0.277
Blake Treinen LAD RP RP -2 26 2 1 3.67 1.30 27
Mike Yastrzemski SF OF OF -2 200 26 9 27 1 0.254
Kurt Suzuki WSH C C -2 130 16 6 20 0 0.261
Dylan Bundy LAA SP SP -3 66 3 0 4.34 1.36 67
Jose Alvarado TB RP RP -3 23 1 2 3.67 1.34 29
Kevin Kiermaier TB OF OF -3 160 23 5 24 6 0.233
Yandy Diaz TB 1B/3B 1B/3B -3 157 22 6 20 1 0.272
Kyle Gibson TEX SP SP -3 68 4 0 4.16 1.32 66
John Gant STL RP RP -3 26 2 1 3.81 1.31 23
Zack Britton NYY RP RP -3 24 2 1 3.48 1.21 22
Roberto Perez CLE C C -3 140 15 6 19 0 0.228
Hunter Renfroe TB OF OF -3 155 22 10 26 1 0.226
Alex Wood LAD SP SP -3 50 3 0 3.88 1.28 44
Kole Calhoun ARI OF OF -3 173 23 10 26 1 0.222
Ronald Guzman TEX 1B 1B -3 173 20 8 23 1 0.237
Dexter Fowler STL OF OF -4 174 23 6 21 2 0.231
Buster Posey SF C C -4 153 18 3 19 1 0.254
Jeff Samardzija SF SP SP -4 64 3 0 3.87 1.18 51
Pedro Baez LAD RP RP -4 26 2 1 2.94 1.06 27
Jon Lester CHC SP SP -4 61 4 0 4.29 1.34 56
Nick Wittgren CLE RP RP -4 23 2 1 3.71 1.21 24
Chance Sisco BAL C C -4 140 16 5 18 0 0.212
Anibal Sanchez WSH SP SP -4 60 4 0 4.14 1.31 49
Yoan Lopez ARI RP RP -4 22 1 1 3.10 1.08 23
Adam Ottavino NYY RP RP -4 27 2 1 2.77 1.27 32
Teoscar Hernandez TOR OF OF -4 168 19 8 23 1 0.219
Emilio Pagan SD RP RP -4 24 2 1 2.71 0.97 32
Dakota Hudson STL SP SP -4 61 3 0 4.08 1.38 49
JaCoby Jones DET OF OF -4 190 29 4 20 4 0.229
Gio Gonzalez CHW SP SP -4 62 3 0 4.22 1.38 55
Hunter Harvey BAL RP RP -4 24 1 2 4.51 1.38 32
Julio Teheran LAA SP SP -4 60 3 0 4.21 1.34 52
Brandon Belt SF 1B 1B/OF -4 189 26 6 25 1 0.248
Josh Lindblom MIL SP SP -4 47 3 0 4.21 1.37 50
Randal Grichuk TOR OF OF -4 181 24 10 26 1 0.238
Mitch Haniger SEA OF OF -4 149 20 7 23 1 0.245
Kwang-Hyun Kim STL P P -4 55 3 0 4.21 1.19 42
Domingo Santana CLE OF OF -5 152 17 7 20 2 0.247
Luke Voit NYY 1B 1B -5 145 20 7 22 0 0.246
Niko Goodrum DET 2B/SS/ OF 1B/2B/ SS/OF -5 173 23 6 20 4 0.244
Wil Myers SD OF 1B/OF -5 131 19 6 21 4 0.231
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Tucker Barnhart CIN C C -5 122 14 4 16 0 0.244
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Brett Gardner NYY OF OF -5 171 24 7 26 4 0.242
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Jason Heyward CHC OF OF -5 194 25 6 24 2 0.249
Nate Lowe TB 1B 1B -5 112 15 6 18 0 0.277
Ryan Mountcastle BAL 1B 1B -5 112 12 5 15 1 0.252
Cesar Hernandez CLE 2B 2B -5 219 26 6 23 4 0.271
Rick Porcello NYM SP SP -5 63 4 0 4.31 1.33 56
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Marco Gonzales SEA SP SP -6 61 3 0 4.11 1.28 47
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Dee Gordon SEA 2B 2B -6 131 15 1 10 7 0.254
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Freddy Galvis CIN 2B/SS 2B/SS -6 201 21 6 23 2 0.250
Brandon Crawford SF SS SS -6 187 20 6 23 1 0.238
Nathan Eovaldi BOS SP SP -6 49 3 0 4.19 1.34 46
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Michael Wacha NYM SP SP -6 52 3 0 4.36 1.38 49
Kyle Seager SEA 3B 3B -6 199 23 9 26 1 0.232
Adam Frazier PIT 2B 2B -6 191 22 4 21 2 0.277
Maikel Franco KC 3B 3B -6 186 19 8 24 0 0.241
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A.J. Pollock LAD OF OF -6 117 17 5 15 2 0.259
Todd Frazier TEX 3B 3B -6 160 21 7 23 0 0.241
Jackie Bradley Jr. BOS OF OF -6 104 13 4 14 1 0.231
Tanner Roark TOR SP SP -6 54 3 0 4.33 1.35 52
Adam Haseley PHI OF OF -6 116 12 3 14 3 0.261
Travis Shaw TOR 3B 1B/3B -6 165 21 7 23 1 0.224
Ender Inciarte ATL OF OF -6 120 18 3 16 4 0.277
Jakob Junis KC SP SP -6 66 3 0 4.37 1.38 61
Manuel Margot TB OF OF -6 141 18 4 15 8 0.256
Danny Duffy KC SP SP -6 57 3 0 4.41 1.34 51
Cameron Maybin DET OF OF -6 118 16 3 14 5 0.254
Corey Dickerson MIA OF OF -6 172 20 5 19 1 0.288
Stephen Piscotty OAK OF OF -7 140 21 6 19 1 0.258
Cole Hamels ATL SP SP -7 44 2 0 4.24 1.34 39
Griffin Canning LAA SP SP -7 30 2 0 4.02 1.25 35
Evan Longoria SF 3B 3B -7 166 19 6 23 1 0.248
John Means BAL SP SP -7 62 3 0 4.42 1.31 50
Jake Arrieta PHI SP SP -7 59 3 0 4.40 1.39 47
Jose Urena MIA SP SP -7 62 3 0 4.44 1.39 48
Raimel Tapia COL OF OF -7 149 19 4 17 4 0.281
Mike Tauchman NYY OF OF -7 116 15 6 18 1 0.255
Harrison Bader STL OF OF -7 139 16 6 18 4 0.226
Austin Hedges SD C C -7 107 10 5 14 1 0.212
Dylan Cease CHW SP SP -7 49 3 0 4.51 1.43 51
Junior Guerra ARI RP RP -7 33 2 1 4.19 1.26 32
Jordan Lyles TEX SP SP -7 57 4 0 4.31 1.31 58
Eric Thames WSH 1B 1B/OF -7 161 20 7 22 1 0.241
Howie Kendrick WSH 1B/2B 1B/2B/ 3B -7 139 16 6 17 1 0.304
Jose Peraza BOS 2B/SS/ OF 2B/SS/ 3B/OF -7 117 14 2 11 6 0.272
Anthony Bass TOR RP RP -7 19 1 1 3.81 1.29 18
Zack Collins CHW DH C -7 100 8 4 13 0 0.226
Adam Wainwright STL SP SP -7 62 4 0 4.37 1.41 53
Brian Dozier SD 2B 2B -7 101 15 6 17 1 0.234
Miles Mikolas STL SP SP -7 54 3 0 3.96 1.21 43
Yusmeiro Petit OAK RP RP -7 33 3 0 3.18 1.00 27
Jake Bauers CLE 1B/OF 1B/OF -7 149 19 6 21 3 0.237
Ji-Man Choi TB 1B 1B -7 153 19 6 21 1 0.262
Spencer Turnbull DET SP SP -7 59 3 0 4.47 1.40 57
Mitch Moreland BOS 1B 1B -7 149 20 7 24 0 0.248
Jacob Stallings PIT C C -7 129 12 4 15 0 0.251
Zach Davies SD SP SP -7 66 3 0 4.36 1.35 44
Manny Pina MIL C C -7 117 11 4 13 0 0.230
Trevor May MIN RP RP -7 27 2 1 3.27 1.11 30
Daniel Vogelbach SEA 1B 1B -7 137 18 9 22 0 0.217
Pedro Severino BAL C C -8 103 12 4 13 1 0.242
Ryan O’Hearn KC 1B 1B -8 139 16 6 18 0 0.245
Wade Miley CIN SP SP -8 61 3 0 4.23 1.32 52
Mike Zunino TB C C -8 113 12 4 13 1 0.242
J.A. Happ NYY SP SP -8 49 3 0 4.44 1.31 44
Victor Caratini CHC C/1B C/1B -8 99 13 3 14 0 0.269
Austin Nola SEA 1B C/1B/ 2B -8 127 13 3 15 1 0.254
James McCann CHW C C -8 90 9 3 13 0 0.242
Rowan Wick CHC RP RP -8 24 1 1 3.89 1.31 25
Eric Lauer MIL SP SP -8 59 3 0 4.37 1.33 55
Tyler Flowers ATL C C -8 86 9 3 12 0 0.242
Chase Anderson TOR SP SP -8 57 3 0 4.24 1.30 50
Ross Stripling LAD SP RP -8 38 3 0 3.67 1.18 38
Jordan Montgomery NYY SP SP -8 38 3 0 4.02 1.36 35
Sean Newcomb ATL SP SP -8 43 3 0 3.87 1.36 41
Shun Yamaguchi TOR P P -8 47 3 0 4.37 1.33 44
Scott Barlow KC RP RP -8 25 1 1 3.81 1.36 32
Kyle Wright ATL SP SP -8 30 2 0 3.47 1.29 30
Rogelio Armenteros HOU SP SP -8 28 2 0 4.23 1.36 27
Jose Osuna PIT 1B/OF 1B/3B/ OF -8 106 13 4 16 0 0.269
Framber Valdez HOU RP RP -8 26 2 0 4.77 1.33 29
Shed Long SEA 2B 2B/OF -8 113 18 4 20 3 0.238
Rio Ruiz BAL 3B 1B/3B -8 135 14 6 16 1 0.251
Colin Moran PIT 3B 1B/2B/ 3B -8 166 18 5 25 0 0.277
Tyler Mahle CIN SP SP -8 39 2 0 4.25 1.29 39
Enrique Hernandez LAD 2B/OF 2B/SS/ OF -8 124 14 4 15 0 0.246
Jason Kipnis CHC 2B 2B -8 103 10 5 13 2 0.237
Joey Wendle TB 2B/3B 2B/SS/ 3B -8 101 10 3 11 3 0.247
David Bote CHC 2B/3B 2B/SS/ 3B -8 121 18 5 19 1 0.252
Jon Berti MIA SS/3B/ OF SS/3B/ OF -9 114 13 2 11 7 0.257
Austin Allen OAK C C -9 86 9 4 12 0 0.254
Reese McGuire TOR C C -9 98 11 2 13 0 0.233
Matt Manning -9 33 2 0 3.86 1.27 36
Josh Rojas ARI OF OF -9 132 17 3 16 5 0.268
Casey Mize DET SP SP -9 25 1 0 3.44 1.16 26
Brent Suter MIL RP RP -9 26 2 1 3.48 1.03 24
Greg Allen CLE OF OF -9 121 15 2 16 6 0.234
Brandon Nimmo NYM OF OF -9 154 24 6 15 2 0.230
Steven Duggar SF OF OF -9 143 15 3 14 3 0.238
Brendan Rodgers COL 2B 2B/SS -9 90 13 3 11 1 0.268
Michael Kopech CHW SP SP -9 24 1 0 4.29 1.40 27
Edward Cabrera SP SP -9 27 1 0 4.18 1.31 31
Sixto Sanchez MIA SP SP -9 16 1 0 4.04 1.28 15
Amir Garrett CIN RP RP -9 26 1 1 4.26 1.38 36
Jason Castro LAA C C -9 141 14 4 16 0 0.228
Forrest Whitley HOU SP SP -9 10 1 0 4.78 1.45 13
MacKenzie Gore -9 11 0 0 4.12 1.35 13
Buck Farmer DET RP RP -9 26 2 1 4.27 1.32 28
Will Harris WSH RP RP -9 21 2 1 2.64 1.04 22
Andrew Knizner STL C C -9 86 9 3 9 0 0.251
Willians Astudillo MIN C C/1B/ 3B/OF -9 76 9 3 11 1 0.288
Jonathan Lucroy FA C C/1B -9 77 11 3 13 0 0.256
Leury Garcia CHW OF SS/OF -9 112 15 2 11 5 0.272
Ty France SD 2B/3B 2B/3B -9 77 11 4 16 0 0.240
Rich Hill MIN SP SP -9 16 1 0 3.31 1.16 20
Orlando Arcia MIL SS SS -9 119 17 4 17 1 0.232
Joe Kelly LAD RP RP -9 23 1 1 4.44 1.35 25
Randy Dobnak MIN RP RP -9 41 2 0 4.71 1.38 31
Matt Shoemaker TOR SP SP -9 23 2 0 4.34 1.29 21
Jay Bruce PHI OF 1B/OF -9 103 13 7 16 0 0.220
Yimi Garcia MIA RP RP -9 20 1 1 4.29 1.13 21
Johan Camargo ATL SS SS/3B/ OF -9 112 14 4 15 0 0.277
Art Warren SEA RP RP -10 9 0 1 4.61 1.41 11
Jorge Mateo OAK SS SS -10 66 9 2 11 3 0.205
Sheldon Neuse OAK 2B 2B/3B -10 62 13 3 11 1 0.242
Asher Wojciechowski BAL SP SP -10 57 3 0 4.41 1.34 54
Eric Sogard MIL 2B 2B/3B/ OF -10 134 20 4 16 2 0.274
Cole Tucker PIT SS SS -10 58 10 2 10 1 0.254
Jimmy Nelson LAD SP SP -10 27 2 0 4.38 1.44 29
Kyle Lewis SEA OF OF -10 114 15 4 14 1 0.234
Jarrod Dyson PIT OF OF -10 116 17 1 14 8 0.232
Vince Velasquez PHI SP SP -10 45 2 0 4.64 1.37 49
Brett Phillips KC OF OF -10 76 10 3 9 3 0.209
Miguel Rojas MIA SS 1B/SS -10 154 17 3 11 2 0.276
Martin Perez BOS SP SP -10 63 4 0 4.54 1.44 49
Nick Markakis ATL OF OF -10 190 26 3 26 0 0.281
J.P. Crawford SEA SS SS -10 168 24 4 18 2 0.222
Jake Rogers DET C C -10 101 10 3 12 0 0.210
Delino DeShields CLE OF OF -10 127 14 1 12 7 0.240
Franchy Cordero SD OF OF -10 131 13 4 15 4 0.221
Richard Rodriguez PIT RP RP -10 27 2 1 3.47 1.27 28
Brian Goodwin LAA OF OF -11 116 15 4 13 2 0.240
Jorge Guzman SP SP -11 6 0 1 2.56 1.22 9
Monte Harrison MIA OF OF -11 102 12 3 13 4 0.215
Merrill Kelly ARI SP SP -11 40 2 0 4.27 1.33 36
Richard Bleier BAL RP RP -11 23 1 1 4.04 1.26 15
Yoenis Cespedes NYM OF OF -11 104 11 5 13 0 0.251
Victor Reyes DET OF OF -11 124 17 2 18 5 0.264
Josh Reddick HOU OF OF -11 135 16 6 18 1 0.246
Yusei Kikuchi SEA SP SP -11 62 3 0 4.77 1.39 47
Alex Dickerson SF OF OF -11 161 19 4 20 1 0.268
Jaylin Davis SF OF OF -11 103 12 5 14 1 0.237
Lewis Brinson MIA OF OF -11 110 13 2 10 2 0.208
Alex Gordon KC OF OF -11 156 19 4 21 1 0.248
Dom Nunez COL C C -11 72 10 4 12 0 0.207
Guillermo Heredia PIT OF OF -11 116 16 2 18 2 0.231
Tony Wolters COL C C -11 140 16 1 17 1 0.258
Dominic Smith NYM 1B/OF 1B/OF -11 101 11 6 16 0 0.000
Josh VanMeter CIN OF 1B/2B/ 3B/OF -11 94 11 3 14 2 0.253
Josh Naylor SD OF OF -11 107 14 6 17 1 0.254
Albert Pujols LAA 1B 1B -11 150 16 6 20 0 0.237
Jeimer Candelario DET 1B/3B 1B/3B -11 164 20 6 21 1 0.228
Jesus Aguilar MIA 1B 1B -11 125 14 6 17 0 0.247
Justin Smoak MIL 1B 1B -11 115 10 6 13 0 0.231
Ryon Healy MIL 3B 1B/3B -11 113 15 5 16 0 0.234
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Josh Fuentes COL 3b 3b -11 75 11 4 14 0 0.241
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Jake Fraley SEA OF OF -11 113 14 3 11 3 0.241
Luis Rengifo LAA 2B 2B/SS -11 102 10 2 8 2 0.236
Nicky Lopez KC 2B/SS 2B/SS -11 149 17 1 19 3 0.266
Ke’Bryan Hayes PIT 3b 3b -12 104 15 3 11 4 0.261
 
  1. Troy: The Collector

    Troy says:
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    Kyle Seager is gonna break a lot of records if he hits .999 lol. Great stuff grey, Always love ur stuff. Same with everyone who writes for razzball.

    • Grey

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      @Troy: Thanks for pointing that out, will fix the typo…

      • Troy: The Collector

        troy says:
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        @Grey: srry was trying to be funny… honest mistake

  2. Todd says:
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    You really down on machado that much this year? I know he had a bad injury but looks like he will be healthy. Really just have him in a keeper for $1 and want to be confident with him as my 3b, as confident as I was last year when I traded longo away bc I had machado step up

    • shibboleth says:
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      @Todd: I think Machado will be a better real-life player for a few more years before he takes off in fantasyland. Keeping for a dollar is awesome, but there are some health and consistency issues to be aware of.

    • BigSloppyMacDaddy says:
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      @Todd: it’s the “counting your chickens” theory

      • Todd says:
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        @BigSloppyMacDaddy: well I figured I wasn’t keeping longo at $35 + 5 anyways, the question remains do I draft another 3b or see how machado plays out?

        • Dead Heads says:
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          @Todd: Keep Machado, I don’t see him being any worse then he was last year, and he’s guaranteed playing time every day because of his stellar defense. He might get a day off or two to start the season because of the injury, but honestly I don’t get why everyone is so down on him. He’s in a great ballpark, and he’s only going to get stronger/more comfortable in the majors. I could see his power output taking a step forward this season if anything, and he generally helps in all categories hitting in a good spot in a strong lineup.

          • goodfold2 says:
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            @Dead Heads: terrible walk rate. when he was very useful it was mostly BABIP driven.

  3. Aaron says:
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    You have joe Mauer at 212. I repeat you have jor Mauer at 212, nothing you say can be taken seriously because you have the future al batting champ at 212.

    • Ra'zball Al Ghul says:
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      @Aaron: MacDaddy is that you?

      • Jay

        Jay says:
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        @Ra’zball Al Ghul: I’d like to think it’s blasting NBC sports for ranking Mauer top-10 overall because “batting average bro”.

      • BigSloppyMacDaddy says:
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        @Ra’zball Al Ghul: no actually, that wasn’t me. It must be someone else with their own thoughts and opinions. Maybe it’s someone from rotoworld…and maybe they find the ranking as ridiculous as I do.

        • J-FOH says:
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          @Aaron: @BigSloppyMacDaddy: It’s good to have your own opinions and backing them up is really important too. Now by Aaron’s logic then where should we rank James Loney? or Daniel Nava? They both had top 15 BA last year and one had a dollar value of $7.4 and the other $7.2. it’s Ok to disagree but to blanket the validity of the hard work that gets put into this website is really not cool…..not cool.

          • BigSloppyMacDaddy says:
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            @J-FOH: I miss sky

    • Ra'zball Al Ghul says:
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      @Aaron: take away the batting average the last couple years and mauer gives waiver wire stats for every other category

      • BigSloppyMacDaddy says:
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        @Ra’zball Al Ghul: just like removing the home runs from Stanton. BOO ya!

        • J-FOH says:
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          @BigSloppyMacDaddy: HR are more scarce than Avg so you’re an idiot

        • Ra'zball Al Ghul says:
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          @BigSloppyMacDaddy: I don’t want anything to do with Stanton personally. Too many Ks and too big a disparity between BABIPs and batting averages, makes me think he will never put it all together.

          • J-FOH says:
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            @Ra’zball Al Ghul: I willnever say never on a player, if he’s there at the end of the 3rd round I have to take him. It’s all about draft day value. Are you paying for your pick or are you getting a good deal. It’s like buying a car, some dealers drop the price far more than others and you can’t pas it up. Some drafts will give you that

            • Ra'zball Al Ghul says:
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              @J-FOH: fair enough

            • costaricanchata says:
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              @J-FOH:

              not buying the car analogy .

              • J-FOH says:
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                @costaricanchata: it’s like different dealers are like different drafts, the prices change from draft to draft like dealer to dealer

          • Charlie says:
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            @Ra’zball Al Ghul:

            He’s only 24. You don’t see him growing into a better hitter? Also once he’s off the Marlins his value will sky rocket with competent talent around him. In a keeper league I’m considering him with my second round pick. Also keep in mind 30 players have been removed from the draft (10 teams x 3 players per team).

            So I’m looking at the likes of Stanton, Wright, Pujols, Bautista at my pick. Strongly considering Stanton.

      • Hawk says:
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        @Ra’zball Al Ghul:

        Take away his one great season and his average stat line is:

        .317 / 9 / 60 / 65

        • BigSloppyMacDaddy says:
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          @Hawk: lol take out one year and no adjustment for games played….great analysis.

          • Hawk says:
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            @BigSloppyMacDaddy:

            Ok, you want to have fun? Lets have some fun:

            Joe Mauer career stats minus the one excellent year he had and 2004 where he only played 35 games. I even prorated stats for him for the half season he played in 2011:

            Year: AVG / HR / RBI / R
            2005: .295 / 9 / 55 / 61
            2006: .347 / 13 / 84 / 86
            2007: .293 / 7 / 60 / 62
            2008: .328 / 9 / 85 / 98
            2010: .327 / 9 / 75 / 88
            2011: .287 / 3/ 30 / 38 (82 games – prorates to 6 / 60 / 76)
            2012: .319 / 10 / 85 / 81
            2013: .324 / 11 / 47 / 62

            Batting average for these years: .317
            Average HR (including prorated adjustment for 2011): 9.25
            Average RBI (including prorated adjustment for 2011): 68.875
            Average R (including prorated adjustment for 2011) : 76.75

            .317 / 9 / 68 / 76

            Helps you in BA, hurts you in HR, RBI and SB. Neutral in R.

            212 is about right.

            • Sky

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              He’s not worth it, Hawk. He ‘respects the site’. That’s why he shows up to rip on it daily. That said…nice work!

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                @Sky: yr right sky, but’s fun to see if he’d talk himself into huge line of b.s. Just like being back in Phil school.

    • Mike says:
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      @Aaron: Mauer at 212 looks pretty good. He’s a great hitter but look at the lineup around him. There may not be another player that hits higher than .260 or has an OBP higher than .320! His counting stats are going to be brutal.

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    Joe mauer at 221 stood out for me. I saw some experts draft the other day where he was taken in the 3rd round. Experts? Hah!

    Seeing Cole hamels so low was also a bit jarring. I get it though. Injury concern, that ballpark and the Phillies are pretty bad.

    I do think bunching Chapman. Kimbrel and kenley together seems incomplete without Greg Holland. With perez, Wilson and others breathing down Jansens neck, Holland may actually be the safer pick. Hes elite, has job security and I hate to say it – I think Kansas Will make some noise this year.and give him alot of save opportunities.

    I also noticed that pitching is deep.

    Nice work grey!

    • HWY68 says:
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      @gareth:

      Word on KC. That bullpen is filthy.

      Tons of elite closers this year. Chapman stands out, though — his new manager digs multi-inning saves.

    • Cram It says:
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      @gareth: Annnnnnd let the hair splitting commence…

    • Cram It says:
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      @gareth: Holland is the next RP off the board. If you really want a reliever and Kimbrell, Chapman and Jansen are gone and you DON’T take Holland simply because he’s not ranked in the same tier of relivers, you probably shouldn’t be playing fantasy baseball

      • BigSloppyMacDaddy says:
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        @Cram It: who exactly are you to tell someone that they shouldn’t play fantasy baseball?

    • BigSloppyMacDaddy says:
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      @gareth: yes, “experts”….we’re all experts now using the methods of Bill James and Ron Shandler to forecast players.

  5. Wallpaper Paterson says:
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    I stated in the fall I would pass on fantasy baseball in 2014. I have not yet changed my mind. Rotisserie is boring. I was in three RCLs (I think) and half the people didn’t bother to do anything after July. Head-to-head can be ridiculous when you dominate the regular season and Carlos Torres becomes your ace come playoff time due to mass injuries and shut downs to your staff (this happened to me in my NL-only league). The fun factor went out the window for me in 2013. Any way to bring that back and get me excited for fantasy baseball this year or ever?

    • HWY68 says:
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      @Wallpaper Paterson:

      You hit burnout. Take a year off fantasy sports & report back next preseason.

      • kingforaday151 says:
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        @HWY68: Enough crazy talk HWY68… Change your format up, get in an auction league or a keeper league and put some $ at stake. Way too much goes in to an auction draft or keeper/dynasty league to quit in July.

        • Cram It says:
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          @Wallpaper Paterson: @kingforaday151: Seriously, get some friends, and put some money on it. Auction drafts, points leagues….I stopped doing public leagues for free along time ago.

          • Wallpaper Paterson says:
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            @Cram It: Thanks. I have done auction leagues in the past. I enjoyed them. We had a good keeper league going but one of the league members was a trash talking nut and there were some prudes in the league. The whole thing fell apart.
            A money league with an auction could get me back into action.

        • HWY68 says:
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          @kingforaday151:

          True. Cash might cure everything — even Wallpaper Paterson’s fantasy funk.

          The best leagues — roto, h2h, whatever — are always the money leagues.

          • kingforaday151 says:
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            @HWY68: Could even use wagers other than cash, but anything’s better than no fantasy baseball. Without it you wouldn’t need Razzball all summer, and if not for Grey’s daily blurb there’d be little reason to wake up at all!

    • costaricanchata says:
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      @Wallpaper Paterson:

      yeah .
      rcl ‘s are tough .
      all the cool kids rushing to sign-up
      and then , when they realize that you have to feed the puppy
      every day , they abandon it by the side of the road .
      but it’s not just espn .
      it’s all public/free leagues .
      it takes time , determination , and pride
      to play 162 games of fantasy baseball .
      otherwise , go play 15 days of football .
      you would hope that there would be some way to
      weed out the repeat offenders , but the policing efforts
      are too cumbersome , i suspect , especially for
      guys walking the “donation” tightrope .

      as for the “boring” part ,
      are you forgetting the late-night humor around here ?

    • mauledbypandas says:
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      @HWY68: @Wallpaper Paterson: Money usually does it for me. If they pay up and quit in July… well I will have fun reminding them how I spend their money.

    • J-FOH says:
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      @Wallpaper Paterson: we’ll try to get you into a good RCL this year. I’m going to try and organize some frequent commenter leagues so we can get some razzball regulars together and really have a good time this year. You have always been a solid commenter and don’t like seeing you all bummed out.

      • de nachos says:
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        @J-FOH: If you have room to include a solid lurker with the solid commenters in an RCL, holler. it’s not in my DNA to quit on fantasy leagues. It was my personal vision quest to defeat Sky in RCL last summer – I failed – and he had little idea that he was my white whale.

        • J-FOH says:
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          @de nachos: I’m working with jaywrong as we speak to set that up

          • Nick says:
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            @J-FOH: I’d be up for that! I only do one RCL per year, so might as well make it a good one!

            • Bombo Rivera says:
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              @Nick: I just missed catching Big Magoo in the Champions’ League last year, and I’d like to find an active RCL this year. Plus, I’d like to match wits with the Podcast King again.

  6. Rabbit says:
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    What type of league are the auction dollar values for? A 10 or 12-team ESPN head-to-head? Any way to alter them to fit different style leagues, esp. leagues with more owners?
    Thanks.

    • Grey

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      @Rabbit: Rudy will have dollar values for different size leagues…

  7. ML says:
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    Keyshawn seems really low given your projections.

    • ML says:
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      @ML: kershaw*

      • Cram It says:
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        @ML: Please see every other post where someone asks why ‘so and so’ is ranked so high/low even though their projected stats would suggest otherwise.

        • ML says:
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          @Cram It: and where could I find that? Does said post explain how kershaws value the past 2(maybe 3 yrs) has been first round worthy? Or that he’s been more reliable than at least half a dozen of the guys ranked ahead of him? Or how the implied value from the projections is greater than most of those ranked ahead of him here?

          This is a ranking list. If you’re not expecting a debate than you can cram it. This isn’t similar to where grey mentions alcides/Martin. You got a guy who’s past and likely future warrants top 5 consideration, at an implied rank nearing the end of round 2. That in turn sets all other pitchers lower than the value they’re producing.

          So again, why?

          • Jeff in Southern Indiana says:
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            @ML: See the top 20 pitchers post and the top 100 overall post and the million comments about “pitching is deep”.

            Or maybe you’re trolling.

            • ML says:
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              @Jeff in Southern Indiana: the “pitching is deep” argument makes little sense when he pitcher is out earning his comp by more than 10 dollars(or sgps, however you want to represent it)

              • Cram It says:
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                @ML: Look, you wanted a reason why. The reason why is explained all over this website.

          • Cram It says:
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            @ML: Oh, I’m all for debating baby! Hitting wins fantasy leagues and around here especially, the mindset is don’t pay for pitching and if you use a top 5 pick for a starter, you’re silly. That said, Kershaw is still the #1 ranked Starter, so whether he’s ranked #1 overall, or 30th overall, he’s still properly relative to the other SP’s.

            I don’t see how you can say with confidence that his SP projections make him more valuable than half the guys ahead of him. Which 10 do you squeeze him in between? More valuable than 34/112/7/.272 but not more than 24/94/15/.280?

            • ML says:
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              @Cram It: you do understand those lines can be converted into a value that can be at least roughly compared to pitchers?

              Actually, you probably don’t

    • Ra'zball Al Ghul says:
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      @ML: Yeah but he dropped too many passes last season to trust him

    • mauledbypandas says:
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      @ML: The overall rankings are merely a roadmap. I drafted Kershaw in the second round overall last year and I won the RCL overall title. Go with your gut.

      • Cram It says:
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        @mauledbypandas: Was wondering, is there any money involved with that? I’ve never played an RCL….is there cash to be had?

        • mauledbypandas says:
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          @Cram It: Some leagues do a buy in, but those are usually the ones that have been together for a few years. There are plenty of standard RCL leagues that are completely and totally free. Sign ups are usually around this time of year, just keep an eye out. It will be a main Grey post of the day

          • Cram It says:
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            @mauledbypandas: I’m looking for money leagues. I’m in one big money league with friends that I’ve been in forever. I refuse to do free leagues, especially with strangers, so was curious if there was a solid group of RCLers that played for a little incentive.

            • goodfold2 says:
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              @Cram It: i’m guessing the money leagues use leaguesafe?

      • BigSloppyMacDaddy says:
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        @mauledbypandas: wait!?!?? You drafted kershaw and weren’t banned from the site indefinitely?!?!?!

        • Cram It says:
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          @BigSloppyMacDaddy: I’m sorry you’re so miserable with your life. Please don’t take any innocent people with you before you kill yourself

        • mauledbypandas says:
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          @BigSloppyMacDaddy: No, but someone in my building stole my RCL winner prize. Either that or Grey didn’t send it, but I am pretty sure he did. : Sad Emoticon:

      • J-FOH says:
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        @mauledbypandas: I like him in the second round too, and sometimes you need to zig when everyone else zags, but you are also a complete player who had other good draft picks and some good free agent adds. There is no one way to skin a bear, but having the skills of a complete player helps a lot. If this is confusing, I’m complimenting your awesomeness

        • mauledbypandas says:
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          @J-FOH: I hear you. That’s exactly what went through my head at the time actually. I didn’t like any hitters at the time I drafted Kershaw and figured I would zig. It worked out.. at least for one year :)

          • de nachos says:
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            @mauledbypandas: I tried the zig zag in RCL, too. Strasburg. Those results weren’t as pretty. Good on you for Kershaw.

      • Simply Fred

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        @mauledbypandas: Rudy has your draft ranked #2 overall (of 768 managers in RCL)…nice! Can’t get to your draft with ESPN down. Who was your first pick?

  8. Bodacious Taters says:
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    Not to question you Oh Great One (Jackie Gleason has nuthin’ on you) – but where is Garrett Jones. Does he have any value batting cleanup for Miami ??

    • J-FOH says:
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      @Bodacious Taters: as a platoon player only vs. Righties and now that he is in Miami, on the road vs, righties

  9. Rabbit says:
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    Oh and one other thing, Herr Grey: I know you update your stat predictions as the preseason ambles on; but where do you put the updated stats? On this page or on the individual positional ranking pages?

  10. Matt says:
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    Grey – I’ll comment here since its a newer post and you might respond. Matt Carpenter – I see your reasons for lowering his ranking, however how much would that be offset by a league that counts extra base hits, where he was a monster last year. Do you expect huge regression there too along with his runs?

    • Grey

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      @Matt: I don’t see that huge of a regression for that league… Knock him up about 30 spots…

      • Matt says:
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        @Grey: Thats about what I was thinking, thanks!

  11. fitz says:
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    The reason Kershaw / Mauer are so low is because Grey thinks it would be wise to pass on those guys.

  12. Jim says:
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    I will never ever tell anyone from my leagues about this site.

    • BigSloppyMacDaddy says:
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      @Jim: well if you do, you could end up with kershaw in the 9th round while everyone falls all over their keyboards to draft J.Gyorko

    • 2 Giant rings says:
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      @Jim: I think Razzball has just about reached critical mass. Everyone in your league already knows about it.

  13. Jeff says:
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    I’m in an AL-Only league where rosters reset every five years. This year is the reset year, so whoever we draft this year we can keep for five seasons. No salaries. In that format, where would you take Xander Bogaerts?

    • Grey

      Grey says:
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      @Jeff: Around that of Everth

  14. dude says:
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    No Middlebrooks?

    • Fungazi says:
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      @dude: 121.5

    • Grey

      Grey says:
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      @dude: Must’ve accidentally deleted him, will fix

  15. Wake Up says:
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    I have to say…out of all your rankings…what sticks out the most…would probably be Madams mipples!

    • Cram It says:
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      @Wake Up: For me, it’s that Tyson Ross is not even worth -2 dollars! A travesty.

    • Sky

      Sky says:
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      @Wake Up: @Cram It: You both just wait for my Tyson Ross sleeper. Gonna bump that man’s value up to at least -1 dollars…at least!

      • Cram It says:
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        @Sky: Can’t wait! You better bring some revolutionary new sabermetrics to the table…

        • Sky

          Sky says:
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          Haha, I’m just pointing out what we all saw: a changed pitcher. I’d love to say I’m going to revolutionize the world but…I don’t project so it’s not possible!

          • Cram It says:
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            @Sky: Ha. I’m the same way when ranking my players. I don’t project numbers. I say to myself this guy will be better than that guy, so he’s my pick.

            • Sky

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              Exactly, and about value. I remember when everyone went wild for Daniel Hudson back in 2011. I said that I liked him but felt I could get similar enough stats and better value from Ian Kennedy later. And yup. I just focus on underlying stats (K/9, K:BB, K%, etc) and go from there. Most guys have ranges for their stats. I just focus on that, projections wise.

  16. Wake Up says:
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    @JoeC – Ha!

  17. kingforaday151 says:
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    Just traded for Hosmer in my weekly head to head 10 keeper league. I want to keep Alex Gordon as well as my third outfielder (McCutchen and Bruce are 1 and 2). Most every lineup projection has Hosmer batting 3rd with Gordon either at 2nd or 5th in the order. What’s your strategy on having two players who potentially hit back to back in the order? Should any attention be paid to this? Am I cutting my percentages of counting stats or it that nonsense?

    PS – I also have McCutchen/Alvarez back to back but I have no choice there with the 3rd base landscape of the league.

    • Wake Up says:
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      @kingforaday151:
      I would expect Hosmer/Butler/Gordon…3,4,5

      it doesn’t make any difference if players on your FBB bat b2b…

    • Wake Up says:
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      @kingforaday151: To expand a little…you want a good OBP guy batting in front of your guy and a good RBI guy batting behind your guy…so if that is the case and you own both then that’s great…

      • kingforaday151 says:
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        @Wake Up: Thanks for the feedback Wake Up.

    • BigSloppyMacDaddy says:
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      @kingforaday151: total nonsense

  18. Ra'zball Al Ghul says:
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    No Tracy McGrady?

  19. costaricanchata says:
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    @ Grey :

    i like this new format .
    very cohesive .

  20. Shake N Bacon says:
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    First year for me joining an RCL fantasy baseball league. Looking forward to it!

    Quick keeper question for anyone willing to answer: I get to keep six players every year. This year my 6th keeper is down to Rizzo or Alex Rios.

    I already have two OF keepers and 1B isn’t all that appetizing after the first few big bats. All of the big guns are being kept so if I don’t keep Rizzo, Jose Abreu is probably my next best choice. Rios is obviously ranked higher, but with OF being a little deeper than 1B, is it worth taking a chance on Rizzo as my 6th keeper?

    • J-FOH says:
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      @Shake N Bacon: I thought you played RCL last year?

      • Shake N Bacon says:
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        @J-FOH: Nah, my first RCL experience was this past NFL season for fantasy football. I started following Razzball for the first time at the beginning of last baseball season. Didn’t know much at the RCL until it was too late and didn’t get to join any leagues.

        I typically only play in one league (long time keeper league) but would like to see how I would do against some razzballers who follow the same sage advice from the writers on here.

      • Shake N Bacon says:
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        @Grey: Word. I was hoping you’d say that!

  21. Jarrod says:
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    This looks great. Can’t wait for an OBP version. My league is OBP/R/RBI/HR/SLG/RBI

  22. Cory says:
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    Why only 350 ABs projected for Billy Hamilton? Do you think he’ll struggle at the plate so badly he’ll become a part-time player?

    Muchas Greycias for the fine work (as always).

    • Grey

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      @Cory: Yup, likely… De nada…

      • Cory says:
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        @Grey: You’ve projected Hamilton for 67 steals in only 350 at bats. So if he somehow manages to hit leadoff all year & gets 580 at bats … WOWZA! What would be your projected SB total then?

  23. MadDog31 says:
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    I’m in a 12 team H2H points league where you get 3 keepers from the previous season for any player drafted past the 8th round. Currently I have Puig (17th rd) & Jose Fernandez (20th rd) for my last keeper its between Yadier Molina (10th rd) or Sonny Gray (19th rd). Opinion?

    • ThE sHiT says:
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      @MadDog31: Gray

  24. Jeff in Southern Indiana says:
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    I feel robbed of 300 pithy comments. Of course that would have taken 20 hours to write.

    Could you discuss a little of your overall strategy in drafting late? Such as runs on closers and who you’re targeting for the bullpen this year and where, etc.

    Your strategy seems to load up on power as it is scarce, where do you plan to get your speed from – any late targets?

    Or is there a generic draft strategy post from years ago somewhere saying SAGNOF SAGNOF, etc.?

    • BigSloppyMacDaddy says:
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      @Jeff in Southern Indiana: yes there is a very generic draft strategy and here’s the gist:

      1) power is supreme
      2) CI and OF are of the upmost importance
      3) MI and CA mean nothing
      4) stolen bases should be acquired with crappy one-dimensional “SAGNOF” players
      5) wait on closers
      6) wait on pitching
      7) take high K/9 guys, except with Zimmerman and Fister for no apparent reason

      Basically draft HRs & Ks and you’ll fit in fine.

      • Shake N Bacon says:
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        @BigSloppyMacDaddy: Don’t you have anything better to do, other than being a dick for no real reason? If you don’t like this site…then don’t visit it.

        Having a debate is one thing. Everyone respects a good debate. But constantly attacking the site, the writers and the commentators is juvenile.

        So “back that azz up” on outta here.

        • Shake N Bacon says:
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          Damn it.

          I bit and fed the troll. 10 lashings for me.

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            @Shake N Bacon: It’s understandable. It’s hard when you see someone lying through their teeth or making assinine statements like Kershaw in the 9th round would happen in an RCL league.

            As for Kershaw, if you were lucky enough to get him in the first or second round, he played above his average ADP. You know who else in the top 10 played at or above their average ADP? 0.

            So you have one moron screaming Kershaw from the rooftops, who probably would have been shouting Verlander from the rooftops last year.

            Do you know how many top 10 ADP pitchers finished outside the top 100 in overall player value last year? 6. These are all guys whose ADP had them in the top 5 rounds, and more than half of them returned value as if they were at best 8th round picks.

            By all means, take Kershaw’s career year which still had him as 5th or 6th most valuable player last year, and project him to the 3rd overall pick like a couple guys in Yahoo did. I’m sure he’ll shave another quarter point off that 1.83 ERA, and add 10-25 more K’s.
            I’m sure his career low BABIP will be either repeated or exceeded even though it was 20 points lower than his career average and career best. If it goes back to his normal BABIP, he would be looking at an ERA over 2. Same with if he regresses in any of the categories where he put up career bests (HR/FB%, BB/9, IP)

            I’m sure he’s going to be just as good, and just as lucky and improve. Most likely he will return a value like the average of his past three years, and fall back to being a great late 2nd round pickup that will be drafted 3rd or 4th in a lot of leagues. I’m sure his numbers will be just as good as the year he was playing for a contract…

            None of it matters Shake. None of that evidence matters. Kershaw is a stud and if you don’t agree, apparently you would wait until the 9th round to get Kershaw. Doesn’t matter that if you draft Kershaw in the beginning of the first round, you will be lucky if you only lose single digit picks value on him.

            It also doesn’t matter that Razzball was the only fantasy ‘pert ranking Goldschmidt in the top 20 last year and I couldn’t find a place ranking him higher than 40 going into last year, and even with that Grey said he has the potential to be top 10. Doesn’t matter that of his top ten he was highest on McCutcheon to beat his projections and deliver an MVP type year. It doesn’t matter that he was right on Chris Davis or the other 9 out of the 10 top ADP pitchers last year that you should have punted on, because pitching was deep last year and the top 10 at the end of the year was overrepresented by guys that were drafted notably later by their ADPs. None of that matters.

            The only thing that matters is Ruttledge, Kershaw’s one year beating his ADP, and the finish in one expert fantasy league. That’s it. No actual evidence is needed, nor will it be provided.

            Bill James Bitches!!!

            (Drops Mic)

        • BigSloppyMacDaddy says:
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          @Shake N Bacon: I have nothing better to do. When my mom unlocks the door I’ll get off the computer. Until then, I’m here. Hi.

        • Aubrey Plaza's Pillow says:
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          @Shake N Bacon: shake and bacon, troll did above spell out a methodology wherein he would quit, if Grey/Rudy kept on failing at Tout Wars and LABR. However, he didn’t spell out how many years that would take.

  25. Johan Barleycorn says:
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    Grey, word has it at Fox Sports KC Alex Gordon is batting fifth in the lineup. Aoki, infante, Hosmer, Moobs, then Gordon. Would this have much effect on his ranking in the OF hierarchy/projections?

    • Grey

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      @Johan Barleycorn: Lineups change daily in-season, I don’t think he’ll be batting fifth every day this coming year…

  26. Joel says:
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    Thanks for your help as always. I’ve got next pick in a league. I just picked Heyward I have Puig Jones heyward marte for my 3 OF spots in H2h points. We play 2 DH. I have 4 arms Jose F, Sale, Gio, Madbum while we play 6 per week.

    I need a 3b SS to fill. I also have 3 picks in next round.
    Do I let a seager, Castro, Sandoval,andrus guarantee pass this pick for Gordon, werth, machado, Dom brown, or Jennings?
    Really struggling with snagging best available or filling a position

    • Grey

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      @Joel: Not sure what you’re asking

      • Joel says:
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        @Grey: @Grey:
        I have next pick in a draft. 3rd/SS are my empty postions. Seager Sandoval Castro Avilable. I have. Heyward puig a jones Marte for

        Is it dumb to snag Gordon , Rizzo, Jennings, Dom brown, or werth before filling 3b/ss?

        Or do those 3 seem like a better option and of those 3 how would you rank?

        • Grey

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          Don’t take a OF, then go by my ranks…

  27. Mike

    Mike says:
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    Not just saying this because I post here…the thought, time, and effort that goes into these rankings is really appreciated. Thanks!

    • mauledbypandas says:
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      @Mike: suck up! All kidding aside. Love all of you who contribute to the site. Hmm might be time to refill that Daiquiri glass

    • Grey

      Grey says:
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      @Mike: No problem

  28. Paul says:
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    Hi Grey, thanks for what you have done.

    Just curious how do you think of Profar?

    Everyday job is ready for him now but few evaluate him to breakout a lot this year.
    But he was the top 1 prospect!!

    Thanks.

    • mauledbypandas says:
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      @Paul: 14. Jurickson Profar – Imagine Jurickson Profar and Jedd Gyorko went to Hawaii to get married and they decided to flip a coin for who got to name the baby. Heads it was, but Gyorko called tails so he got to keep his last name, and Jurickson was heads so he got to name the kid, leaving them with Jurickson Gyorko, and when the kid turned 12 he changed his name to Tommy so kids would stop teasing him with Jerkson Jerko. That’s an imagine scenario that even John Lennon couldn’t have dreamt up. Ron Washington seems content with Profar at the bottom of the order. For now. After a few lines of the devil’s dandruff that could all change. So…gimme! Now, I will write a rap song that struggles to rhyme in honor of Jurickson Profar and Brad Miller. I call this rap song, “My Rhymes Are On…That Thing You Read Off Your Watch (Time).”
      I like Miller and Profar a lot, cuz. Like a lot a lot. Two a lot’s.
      I got more a lot’s than you got uh-nothings’s.
      Something, something something. That’s three something’s.
      Your girlfriend told me you’re lackluster.
      Then I switched the U’s for A’s and the F’s for L’s on your girl’s keyboard and she told me to lack luster.
      But she kept going, “Lack luster, hurder! I lackin’ fove you so lackin’ mach.”
      I yelled, “Oh, yeah,” like the Kool-Aid Man. He’s punch with a paunch. 2014 Projections: 77/10/59/.272/15

      And that’s me quoting Grey… without actual quotation marks

      • Paul says:
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        @mauledbypandas: thanks for ur quoting.
        Maybe am too new here so not sure what he meant. Haha.

        Anyway, based on ranks, Gyorko > Miller or Profar

  29. Cory says:
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    Corey Hart is a 1b (no OF eligibility) in Yahoo.

    • The Thumb says:
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      @Cory: I don’t think that really changes much. Unless you’re in a deep 5 OF leagues you should already have 3 OFs before you get to him.

    • Grey

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      @Cory: We’ll see where he is in ESPN then adjust…

    • Curt says:
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      @Cory: 1B only in cbs also.

  30. Empire State says:
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    Fantasy noob inheriting a dynasty team in a 10-team h2h. I can keep up to 5 guys indefinitely. Here is my list:

    Adam Jones
    Chris Davis
    Manny Machado
    Jean Segura
    Edwin Encarnacion

    If I keep fewer than five I get extra picks before the first round. I’m debating whether I should drop Machado to get an extra early pick, then try to pick him back upon the third or fourth round. Losing Machado is a risk, but is it one worth taking to try a score a top 50 guy?

  31. Count de Monetball says:
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    Grey, thanks, and I agree with Costaricanchata that the sortable format is awesome (and nice that its the same as hitter tron, SON, etc.) I am curious, as spring training goes along, injuries happen, or anything else happens that alters your rankings substantially, are you more likely to just let us know about it in a daily blurb, or will you update the rankings, i.e. rookie surprisingly locks down a starting position (ex. Carlos Martinez) or a quality middle reliever locks down a closer position, or a major league ready bat makes the opening day lineup, etc.

    • Grey

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      @Count de Monetball: I’ll try to make a point of telling everyone once spring training rolls around…

  32. Eddy says:
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    Excellent work, Grey. I can finally start mocking now that we have all the tools.

    **HIJACKING THREAD**

    Razzball commenters, I have 8 spots for a Yahoo, 12-team roto auction league (OBP instead of AVG). 1350 IP max. It’s only a $20 buy in and I use the always-trusted leaguesafe to harbor the money. If you’re interested, shoot me an email [email protected].

    • BigSloppyMacDaddy says:
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      @Eddy: I’ll have the best staff ever

      • Eddy says:
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        @BigSloppyMacDaddy:

        then come on down!

        Now six spots left.

      • Dave in Norcal says:
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        @BigSloppyMacDaddy:

        And I’ll laugh when two of your high drafted pitchers go down to Tommy John, while I just picked up this year’s JoFer and Harvey in the 22nd round or off the waiver wire. Cole, Gray and Salazar were available in many leagues last year into September. Not mine – I rode them (and my early drafted power) to victory.

        • BigSloppyMacDaddy says:
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          @Dave in Norcal: yeah hindsight is wonderful. Nice job.

          • Dave in Norcal says:
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            @BigSloppyMacDaddy:

            Here’s the thing, troll (and I’ll follow advice below to ignore you from here out), the key message of this site is that you don’t need all that much “hindsight” to see which pitchers might give you strong performance, and, unlike power hitters, many of them go undrafted. They are just sitting on the wire or are there late in the draft. There is far more “replacement” pitching that gives big value than hitting. Moreover, the act of pitching offers greater chance of injury (especially season ending injury) than hitting, fielding or running. Kershaw has and very well may give first round value again. But, on average, pitchers are more likely to have something go awry and they’re easier to replace with a decent replacement than a big power hitter. Grey’s rankings reflect the above opinions* and are designed to steer you to a greater overall chance of success. If you disagree fine, and periodically, it will work out for you, but to disagree like an ass looks like it’s only going to get you the silent treatment from here out.

            *facts.

            • BigSloppyMacDaddy says:
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              @Dave in Norcal: you mean you won’t talk to me anymore?! Ohhhh no

            • BigSloppyMacDaddy says:
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              @Dave in Norcal: wait before you silence me, can you explain to me one more time the concept of pitcher volatility?

              • goodfold2 says:
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                @BigSloppyMacDaddy:there is one funny thing i’m noticing about just what assbags bring out in others having to deal with them. He’s now gotten like 5 really long response posts concerning his behavior (seemingly trying to “fix” him). Is this the same syndrome that seems to stem from so many women who “go after the assholes” rather than nice guys (or whatever the condition is called). Is this also prevalent in males as well (assuming pretty much everybody here, at least 97%, are male) in a different form?

        • Aubrey Plaza's Pillow says:
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          @Dave in Norcal: how many teams and how big are roster’s in that league mentioned? hard to believe (unless shallow league) that cole wasn’t owned before Sept.

    • Rabbit says:
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      @Eddy: Daily transactions or weekly?

      • Eddy says:
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        @Rabbit:

        Sorry, never saw this message. Daily transactions.

  33. Ryan says:
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    I am in a 20 team h2h dynasty league. I am trying to see where I can look to improve via trade. Is there any particular area I should look to fix?

    c evan gattis
    1b miguel cabrera
    2b brandon phillips
    ss jurickson profar
    3b evan longoria
    lf justin upton
    cf desmond jennings
    rf shane victorino
    util prince fielder
    bn michael cuddyer
    bn neil walker
    bn carl crawford

    sp clayton kershaw
    sp yu darvish
    sp cliff lee
    sp zach wheeler
    p dan straily
    p tanner roark
    p charlie morton
    rp jose veras
    rp sean doolittle
    bn mat belisle
    bn garret richards

    • Grey

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      @Ryan: Pretty great team for 20 team league…. Your bullpen’s a bit of a mess, that’s about it

      • Ryan says:
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        @Grey: so would u suggest I deal 1 or 2 of my bats for rp help? If so which bats should I move?

        • Grey

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          Nope, I’d hold what you have for now… RPs will come into the league…

  34. Jon says:
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    Bravo, Grey, bravo. That is all.

    • Grey

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      @Jon: No problem

  35. Count de Monetball says:
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    Just a thought writers and frequent commenters, (specifically Sky and Cram), I think we should just completely ignore the troll (when we find out what its name of the day is). While it it is sometimes fun to have some banter, quite frankly the moron is getting on my nerves seeing his dribble as I read through the comments, while looking to see if there are some good nuggets in there…. Just my opinion, but I love this site and want to ensure it maintains its full enjoyment factor (ex baseball analysis and humor).

    • Sky

      Sky says:
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      I only wanted to give him a shot at living up to his ‘I respect the site’ statement. Sadly he’s proven that’s really all he is: a troll

    • Cram It says:
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      @Count de Monetball: I was thinking the same thing, but I let the personal attack get to me. I shall refrain.

    • Sky

      Sky says:
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      I’m just going to link to his statement of ‘respect’ from now on. It’s Two-fold. It states that he’s a troll AND it shows he doesn’t have the spine to troll under the same name.

      • BigSloppyMacDaddy says:
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        @Sky: yeah it’s all about “spine” here on the Internet

    • Kid A says:
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      @Count de Monetball:

      Little known historical fact: Disgruntled fantasy baseballer, Gavrilo Princip lobbed a grenade into Francy Ferdinand’s carriage because that crazy Archduke ranked Shoeless Joe over up-and-coming prospect, George Herman Ruth. Millions died.

      Fantasy baseball: sparking international powder kegs since 1914.

      It is always easier to ignore if you just ignore.

      • Sky

        Sky says:
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        @Kid A: Even littler known fact: This historical setting is actually the inspiration for Bruno Mars:

        • Kid A says:
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          @Sky: Amazing what a boner that guy(?) gives prezzii…

          • Sky

            Sky says:
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            That would be the even littler, littler known fact of this whole thing…

            • J-FOH says:
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              @Sky: hahahaha

            • Kid A says:
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              @Sky: This makes me laugh alot.

          • Prez says:
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            @Kid A: hey! You keep my boner outta your mouth!

      • J-FOH says:
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        @Kid A: bravo my historically minded stalker

        • Kid A says:
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          @J-FOH: Didn’t your court appointed attorney explain “stalker” to you when you were trying to beat those charges that stemmed from you spending too much time outside the local YMCA in a trench coat?

          • J-FOH says:
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            @Kid A: I’ve upgraded to a van and it’s outside everywhere Yasiel Puig goes. That dude is hard to keep up with when your pants are around your ankles.

      • Wake Up says:
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        @Kid A: Where were you yesterday dammit! I could have used this reminder!

        • Kid A says:
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          @Wake Up: I can only help those that want to be helped, you savant.

          • Wake Up says:
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            @Kid A: “Never wrestle with pigs. You both get dirty and the pig likes it.” GBS

  36. Jonas says:
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    Doesn’t Tyler Thornburg have more UPSIDE based on his performance finishing last season? Is he going to be out of the bullpen?

    • Grey

      Grey says:
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      @Jonas: I don’t buy Garza being healthy, which would slide him in… I’ll drop Thornburg’s projections and rank if Garza leaves spring with his health…

      • Jonas says:
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        @Grey: cool, thanks. I owe you a beverage for sure, Grey.

        • Grey

          Grey says:
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          No problem

    • Jonas says:
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      @Jonas: Bullpen.

  37. mauledbypandas says:
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    Now we just need ESPN to end their maintenance so we can see their rankings and set up leagues!

      • mauledbypandas says:
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        @Grey: hey, they are up now!

  38. B&W says:
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    Mods please make sure this is okay, don’t want to step on any toes.

    So I’ve gotten this all down in spreadsheet form. If anyone would like a copy I’ve gotten them broken down with positions, along with a synopsis for each player based off of Grey’s blurbs, separated into his tiers and highlighted the sleepers if anyone is interested.

    Please post an email address if you’d like a copy.

    • Grey

      Grey says:
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      @B&W: You’re taking food from my mouth

      • B&W says:
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        @Grey:
        Didn’t even consider the clicks aspect. Just put some more drank in your cup for all your hard work.

        • Grey

          Grey says:
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          Thanks!

  39. Jon says:
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    In a keep forever league, Masterson or Porcello?

    • The Thumb says:
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      @Jon: Masterson

    • Grey

      Grey says:
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      @Jon: Toss up, I’d go Porcello

  40. Spammer Jay says:
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    I’m updating the excel war room. Any special requests for added functionality or info?

    • Count de Monetball says:
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      @Spammer Jay: Thanks Jay, we very much appreciate it!

    • Teddy Heater says:
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      @Spammer Jay: War room coming to you new and improved!! Thanks guys & looking forward to Mother of all Cheat Sheets!

  41. RandomItalicizedVoice says:
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    Wow the comment section has well and truly gone to hell. Too much trolling and too much feeding of said trolls. Sad.

    • Kid A says:
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      @RandomItalicizedVoice:

      Razzball is a fine place and worth the fighting for, and I hate very much to leave it.

      • RandomItalicizedVoice says:
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        @Kid A:

        I agree, but the comment section is starting look like comment sections on ESPN or CBS. Obviously it’s not all the way there yet, but that’s the direction it’s heading.

        The whole thing, for me, is that Grey et al have answered certain questions ad infinitum on this website. As we all know, there is a FBB philosophy here that most of us accept, more or less. Why do questions like “Why is Kershaw ranked so low?” even deserve a response? The answer is embedded in nearly every post that is made on this website!

        IMO, if a given person doesn’t agree with the general FBB philosophy here, they will move on, probably pretty quickly, especially if their trollish attempts at goading or instigating are given the attention they deserve…which is none. No amount of argument, no matter how logical, is going to convince them. The evidence has been laid out for years on this website. If a person is truly open to changing their minds, they will find these answers quite easily throughout the site, and will weigh that evidence fairly against their pre-established ideas, and THEN perhaps come to ask legitimate questions in the comments or forums.

          • Bombo Rivera says:
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            @Big Magoo: Agreed. Nice to see you again, RIV and Magoo.

            • Big Magoo

              Big Magoo says:
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              @Bombo Rivera: You too, Bombo. Maybe we can do another RCL this season. It was a hell of a ride last year.

        • costaricanchata says:
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          @RandomItalicizedVoice:

          ” I agree, but the comment section is starting look like comment sections on ESPN ..”

          exactly !

          (and , oh yeah … yo momma .)

        • BigSloppyMacDaddy says:
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          @RandomItalicizedVoice: “the evidence has been laid out for years on this site”? Oh yeah. Please demonstrate. Do you have the final standing to all razz ball expert league finishes? Because outside of that, there is no “evidence”

          It’s readers like you that I have the biggest issue with. You’re entire tone reeks of pretentious ‘we are the wiser’ obnoxiousness, with nothing to actually back it up. Saying something is so doesn’t make it so.

    • Big Al says:
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      @RandomItalicizedVoice: Yeah the only way to get rid of a troll virus is not to feed it like you said. If nobody feeds the trolls they starve and get no attention, because that’s what it wants. Leave the sad little troll alone and he’ll go back to his hole.

  42. The Thumb says:
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    The hate runs strong with this thread…

  43. Simply Fred

    simply fred says:
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    Grey: having fun looking at your yahoo mock. looks like your players fell to you, on-average, 2 rounds after your projections. must have been fun!

    That said. Of course that wouldn’t happen in the ECFBL.

    Guys/Gals, yes, we are actively recruiting Grey/Rudy to the league. who of you wouldn’t?

    Really, think there should be some sort of contest on Razz to get in an RCL with Grey/Rudy. Any ideas?

    (All, pleeeaaaase, references to ECFBL being a great league are not intended to brag. They are meant to encourge others to be active…stream pitchers and hitters…be in the game 24-7…I love you!)

    • Grey

      Grey says:
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      @simply fred: Yeah, that’s a good idea… I’m all ears to how to get us in your league… Honestly, as of right now, we haven’t decided which leagues we’ll be in yet…

      • J-FOH says:
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        @Grey: write a 500 word essay on why you deserve to play with Rudy and Grey, kinda like a make-a-wish thing

        • Grey

          Grey says:
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          Hehe

          • J-FOH says:
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            @Grey: draw a new razzball logo, using Crayons only, that will be used for the day. The top 10 entries get to play with you and Rudy. The pictures will be judged on originality, cleanliness, and relativity to the site

            • Grey

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              I like that, but wouldn’t really give us people who were good at fantasy, just good at drawing…

              • J-FOH says:
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                @Grey: a razzball test? A virtual Royal rumble? a lottery? a bidding war? pay to play with Rudy and Grey?

                • Grey

                  Grey says:
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                  Yeah, not sure… Need to think on it… No paying though…

                  • J-FOH says:
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                    @Grey: not even in daquiris or vape juice?

                    • Grey

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                      Ha, nope

                  • J-FOH says:
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                    @Grey: got it, a frequent commenter draft. You and Rudy each select 5 frequent commenters. Feelings will be hurt but for those that don’t make it, comment more and make the cut next year. If you can’t come up with 5 each include some writers in there too. Something along those lines. it’s a lot easier than selling candy bars with golden tickets in them.

                    • Grey

                      Grey says:
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                      Haha… Wait, I like the golden ticket idea!

                    • Sky

                      Sky says:
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                      I’m picturing you dressed as Willy Wonka a la the Tim Burton remake now. It’s frightening…but accurate with the original story!

                    • Grey

                      Grey says:
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                      I’m more of a Gene Wilder Wonka…

                    • Sky

                      Sky says:
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                      I’m still scared

                    • Prez says:
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                      Ill kick out 100 fart jokes a day if im not on the list!

                      Madams has pancake mips! Thats a start..

                    • Bombo Rivera says:
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                      @J-FOH: You want people to comment more?

                  • J-FOH says:
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                    @Grey: of course you do, it’s reason to get a new top hat

  44. booya says:
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    With the keepers I already have listed below would you want option 1)Mark Trumbo & Ubaldo, option 2)Matt Carpenter & Ubaldo, or option 3)Matt Holliday? Its a H2H 6×6 league that uses OPS and K/9…

    Votto
    Segura
    Cargo
    Bruce
    Marte

    Wainwright
    Shelby Miller
    Cingrani

    Thanks

  45. Clint says:
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    2nd round for Kershaw, eh? Wow. Didn’t think I should look at pitchers until 3-5th rounds easy but you guys are the smaat ones.

  46. brian says:
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    I dont remember today being my birthday or christmas but I appreciate the gift

    • Grey

      Grey says:
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      No problem

  47. Wake Up says:
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    Funny thing is…from what I remember of Tout…the guy who won was strong in…HRs and Ks…

    • Sky

      Sky says:
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      Your memory has to be wrong…no wait, Bill James said to do that…no wait, I’m so confused! Mother? *puts on lipstick*

      • Wake Up says:
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        @Sky: Don’t worry you look beautiful just the way you are…

        I’d like to invite you to go fishing…but I’m scared that you’ll eat all the worms…

        • Sky

          Sky says:
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          Like my zombie father used to say, you have to eat them before they eat you.

          • Wake Up says:
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            @Sky: Like my great great grandpappy used to say…sure zombies are delicious…but, if you eat’em all up…they’ll be none left for my great great grandson to eat…

            • Sky

              Sky says:
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              For some reason thinking about zombies and great great grandpappies makes me think of House 2. Please tell me you’ve seen that. Puppypillar? Hello? Anyone?

              • Wake Up says:
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                @Sky: No…If you’re talking about the Puppy Bowl…I taped it on VHS…but haven’t watched it yet…so be careful for spoilers…

                • Sky

                  Sky says:
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                  Lets just say the Toy Fox Terrier coach – Jim Harbowwow – craps himself on the sidelines.

                  • Wake Up says:
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                    @Sky: Ha! You talking about the one where Bilal comes over in his PJs this time?

                    • Sky

                      Sky says:
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                      I assume Bilal is always in PJs. He plays like he’s asleep! *Lame joke of the day…covered*

              • Big Magoo

                Big Magoo says:
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                @Sky: Never saw the sequel. Is it good bad or bad bad? Is it worth checking out just for the great title?

                • Sky

                  Sky says:
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                  Good bad. House II: The Second Story…that tells you all you need to know about it. Very ‘WTF, who thought of this’ stuff. And it has a Puppypillar! Seriously, I want a Puppypillar.

                  • Big Magoo

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                    @Sky: I meant the tagline of “It’s getting weirder!” on the bottom of the cover. That better not be false advertising! Though, a Puppypillar? Sounds like legitimate weirdness…

                    • Sky

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                      Haha, oh believe me, it gets weirder than Carrot Top with muscles and plastic surgery up in dis. I watched it as a kid so there’s probably some nostalgia associated but it was very imaginative. Definitely not a horror by any stretch of the imagination.

                  • Count de Monetball says:
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                    @Sky: There is a House II, oh shit, I need to get less of a life, so I can watch it!!!

                    • Sky

                      Sky says:
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                      Puppypillars, Count! Puppypillars!

                  • Big Magoo

                    Big Magoo says:
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                    @Sky: If you like the good kind of cheesy horrors, check out The Stuff. It’s basically about mind-controlling ice cream. Nuff said. Some of the Leprechaun movies are good bad too. Never saw Lep: In The Hood though. Seems like that one could go either way.

                    • Sky

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                      Sorry man, ‘The Stuff’ is already a top 10’er for me regarding good bad. Actually was pretty damn smart given the timing of it (making fun of consumerism in the midst of the 80’s). My favorite part is Benjamin Stone being the lead character. That was outta nowhere…AND WHO EATS WHITE CREAMY STUFF OF THE GROUND! Seriously, that scene makes me scratch my head every time..and laugh of course.

                      Leprechaun was fun. I can’t say I saw past maybe 2, though. I have some catching up to do. Now more modern good bad flick: remake of The Wicker Man with Nic Cage. So quotable…

                    • J-FOH says:
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                      @Big Magoo: Is that better than attack of the killer tomatoes?

                    • Prez says:
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                      What the f*ck are puppypillars?

    • BigSloppyMacDaddy says:
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      @Wake Up: from what I remember, Razzball was strong in nothing

  48. themightypeace says:
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    400 ranked players – that is a mountain of work! Much appreciated.

    Are there any players who you feel are conservatively ranked that could easily jump up the list when the season starts? For example, Prospects whose arrival to the majors is imminent are usually quite conservative in rankings (justifiably so), but they Are a volatile bunch and there are always one or two players who surprise (usually pitchers). Who do you think are the most volatile rankings on your list?

  49. Jon says:
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    Lawrie is valued at $10, Porcello $11. Both have the chance to out-produce those numbers? Which one has the higher ceiling? The hitter?

    • Grey

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      Yeah

  50. Big Magoo

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    The top 400 are already projected and in a sortable format. Well done, sir (or sirs, I didn’t forget about you Rudy). Just need this incredibly long offseason to come to an end.

    Regarding the rankings, do you expect Rios to be bumped into the #2 spot in the lineup at the expense of Andrus, or for Choo to be moved down against LHPs? It seems like Rios’ counting stats reflect those of a top of the order hitter rather than a 5 hole one.

    I’m looking to start a working list of the ’13 league winners who are interested in joining the Champions League this season. You have a standing invitation, Grey. It was fun having Nick in the league last year. J-FOH and mauledbypandas, I’ll send you guys emails, but you can also respond here to confirm your spots in the league. They’re there if you want ’em. I’ll be posting something in the forums as well.

    • Grey

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      I’m assuming he see a lot of time in the two hole at the expense of Andrus, but it’s a fluid situation…

    • mauledbypandas says:
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      @Grey: Warsh is hard to predict sometimes. He tends to go with his trusted guys, and Andrus definitely is that by now. You never know though..
      @Big Magoo: I’d be down for sure. Let me know what I need to do

  51. Cram It says:
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    Do you guys have some sort of auction draft calculator? Like say you wanted to spend 70% on hitting and 30% on pitching, you could plug in how much money you’re allotted, # of roster spots, etc. It would be something you could use during the draft…like if I just spent $40 of my $260 on Goldy, it would recalculate how much money I should have left for offense/SP based on my percentage goal.

    Does this sound insane? :)

    • Shake N Bacon says:
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      @Cram It: Probably something easy enough to do on an Excel spreadsheet or a google spreadsheet that everyone could get a link to.

      Though I’m too lazy to do this myself. I might give it a try this weekend though Cram.

    • MattTruss

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      @Cram It: The old Excel War Room kept track of how much $$ you had left as well as average remaining per player. Doesn’t seem like it would be a hard thing to add to break it into Off/Pitching. A spreadsheet with your goals and then columns under it for what you paid for guys that subtracted from the total would be pretty easy too. All else fails, the old calculator and notepad would do in a pinch.

      • Cram It says:
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        @Shake N Bacon: @MattTruss223: Word. Maybe an excel formula rule would work, but I’m savvy/un-lazy enough to work it out myself. Really, I just get so drunk by the 15th round that I lose track of my spending. Art imitating life…

        • MattTruss

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          @Cram It: Ha! hear that

  52. JohnnyBaseball says:
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    In a H2H keeper league that includes the basics + 2B, Walks, and OPS categories. I am torn and trying to decide who to keep Avasial Garcia vs Christian Yelich. If only standard categories counted I would stick with Garcia, but the 2B + Walks makes me lean toward Yelich. Thoughts?

    • Grey

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      Avisail

  53. c0wfunk says:
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    Thanks as always, Grey. I love to compare your rankings to ADPs and ESPN ranks to find where I can take advantage. Got me a 4th round goldschmidt and last round Marte last season..

    You must have hit some new tier in the fantasy baseball Googles, the troll persistence and frequency rates have really shot up this off season with real signs of upside this season!

    • Grey

      Grey says:
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      Haha…No problem

  54. c0wfunk says:
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    lemme throw out a “what about this guy” – I’ve heard a few experts mentioning cameron maybin as someone to look at as a bounceback this year. How far did he place out of the top 400? You see any upside at all there?

    • Grey

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      He’s a platoon guy at the bottom of the Padres lineup as of right now… With a Venable or Quentin injury he’d slide into the top 300…

  55. Random Collmenter says:
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    I’ve done a few mock auctions on Yahoo and basically every player in your top 50 is going for WAY more $ than you have listed (except for a few – Pujols, etc.)… do you suggest sitting back and letting people overpay to scoop up deals later, or overpaying for a couple studs? I don’t want to get stuck with no one in the top 30…

    Thanks!

    • Cram It says:
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      @Random Collmenter: Mock auctions are tough to gauge. Always some looney’s driving up the price just because.

    • Grey

      Grey says:
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      Yeah, hang back…

    • costaricanchata says:
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      @Random Collmenter:

      try and drive up the price only on guys that you really want .
      that way , you won’t get stuck with someone else’s guys .

  56. Robby D says:
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    Finally I can provide value.

    If no one else is doing it, I’m updating the War room as it’s pretty simple excel stuff. I was going to add functionality to differentiate between ESPN and YAHOO position eligibility.

    Is there anything else on the wishlist of improvements from last year’s war room?

    • Grey

      Grey says:
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      Someone else has emailed it to me already and they’re going to do it (as of now), so you’re an alternate at this point…

    • Spammer Jay says:
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      @Robby D: Hey Robby, lets collaborate on it. I’m just starting on it now that these rankings are out. jason.loeffler22 (at) gmail.com .

      • Grey

        Grey says:
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        Hey, Spammer, someone emailed it to me already and I’m working with it now… Thanks!

        • Spammer Jay says:
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          @Grey: ok no prob. missing data for Casilla at 339.

          • Robby D says:
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            @Spammer Jay: Sorry I didn’t respond sooner. I am at work, and I had all the excel projections rolled in and the tiers created on the spreadsheet, but if nothing else, I’ll just work on this for my version of it. I love playing with the rankings and projections anyway and took the war room last year and tweaked the projections to reduce or increase the value as I saw it.

            I will probably leave that to the professionals because I was completely wrong on McCutcheon last year and Pujols, so I’ll just stick to the ones used here.

  57. Hawk says:
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    @Grey

    Any chance of doing a keeper style post? A post where you adjust the rankings based on drafting in a keeper (keep forever, dynasty)league?

    Ex: In a keeper league, you’d definitely take Trout over Cabrera. A lot of the pitcher rankings would change based on being able to keep etc…

    Thanks for all the hard work!

    • Grey

      Grey says:
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      Keeper rankings coming next week

      • Hawk says:
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        @Grey:

        You sir….your stache is not trash.

        • Grey

          Grey says:
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          Thanks!

  58. Jurickselton Primmons says:
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    Dynasty auction league, 6×6 W/ OPS & Holds. Who do I retain? I get 4 Keepers.

    Prince Fielder – $36
    Brandon Belt – $6
    Andrew McCutchen – $38
    Wil Myers – $5 (mmmmmm)
    Jean Segura – $5
    Trevor Rosenthal – $5
    Greg Holland – $6
    Alex Cobb – $9
    Gerrit Cole – $5

    Thanks guys

    • Grey

      Grey says:
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      Cole, McCutchen, Segura, Myers

  59. Jurickselton Primmons says:
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    $300 Auction budget

  60. Nimrod says:
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    Love this site. !st time posting. I’m in a 12 team roto snake draft. Each team will have two infielders at each position, two catchers, five outfielders and ten pitchers, mix and match. Does your strategy stay the same as far as waiting on SP,3B and catchers? Thank you

    • Grey

      Grey says:
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      Thanks! I wouldn’t wait in 3B, I’d grab one early catcher and wait on pitchers the same way…

  61. Big Al says:
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    Nice to have the Top 400 as a base and guideline to use for my rankings. It’s amazing how people go crazy on comparing the different rankings. There guidelines and tools for you to use. Use the one’s that go with your thinking on rankings. After a few years you see whose rankings make more sense for you, by the results you get in your leagues. Because that’s what really counts in the end. Good work keep up the good work Grey. Enjoy the site.

    • Dead Heads says:
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      @Big Al: I second this post! Rankings aren’t set in stone, and that’s evident by the continuous rankings put out during the season. So just rework or rethink some guys you like better, but overall look at abunch of different rankings and figure out which ones line up with your thinking/strategy. Well said!

    • Grey

      Grey says:
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      Agreed and thanks!

  62. Dead Heads says:
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    Hmm I’m confused, I understand ranking Puig below Braun, but he is projected for 5 more steals and more HR’s and a higher BA. Is this on purpose? Or is he ranked lower because you feel it’s a lot more likely Puig under produces those numbers and Braun is pretty questionable on what he’s going to do but has been consistent for a lot of years?

    I actually think Braun picks up right where he left off, honestly I’m sure he has more than 1 PED supplier so if he’s really that terrible when he’s not on the stuff I would assume he would continue using them…

    • Grey

      Grey says:
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      Puig has more risk…

      • Dead Heads says:
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        @Grey: Ya it’s scary when someone has more risk than Braun, but it makes sense. Thanks for the clarification, I actually think Braun surprises people this year, and goes back to being the elite fantasy OF we all used to know and love(somewhat).

        • Grey

          Grey says:
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          No problem

  63. MattTruss

    MattTruss223 says:
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    Wonderful day Grey! Thanks for all your work man!

    Looks like Josmil Pinto got deleted off the list, FYI. Also, Satiago Casilla’s projections are all zeros.

    • Grey

      Grey says:
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      Pinto was deleted on purpose… Twins announced he’s not starting…. Will look at Casilla…

      • MattTruss

        MattTruss223 says:
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        @Grey: Doh! Missed that bit of info, thanks Grey!

        • Grey

          Grey says:
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          Casilla is being deleted… I originally had all RPs, then removed ones that didn’t make top 400 (ones not getting lots of saves)…

  64. Monkey Shines says:
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    Hey, someone might have already mentioned this in the comments, but an AL/NL filter would be pretty awesome.

    And thanks for all of this fantastic analysis. The website is top notch.

    • Grey

      Grey says:
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      Thanks! There will be AL/NL dedicated ones in the coming days…

  65. Sam says:
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    Thanks for the rankings. Which 4 would you keep for 4 yrs in a H2H 5×5 weekly league? Taveras, Springer, Rendon, T. Walker, Gray?

    • Grey

      Grey says:
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      Not Rendon

      EDITED. Made a typo

  66. SteveNZ says:
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    Congrats on the quantity of traffic.

    Pity about the quality of some it it.

    • Grey

      Grey says:
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      Ha

      • SteveNZ says:
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        @Grey: Funny to look back on some of those old ranking posts with their 11 comments. And four of those were from me, talking about food.

        • Grey

          Grey says:
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          HAHA… Yup

        • Carnac says:
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          HAHAHA

    • SteveNZ says:
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      @SteveNZ: of some *of* it.

  67. BigDeal says:
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    Who do you like more in a dynasty? Chris Tillman or Jered Weaver?

    I think you would say Tillman but not fully sure. You have Weaver rated higher for this season, but his declining velocity is a concern. On the other hand, Tillman pitches in AL East, but is younger.

    • Grey

      Grey says:
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      Tillman

      • BigDeal says:
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        @Grey:

        Thanks Grey. You the man. Hope I can get him to be my 3rd or 4th SP. All your young sleeper SPs that I wanted (Cole, Cobb, Salazar, Gray) were taken too early (#33-80) for my liking

  68. Mrs. Featherbottom says:
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    2014 Goal:
    Coin a new term for the Razzball glossary centered on the enigma known as Michael Brantley.

    • Grey

      Grey says:
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      Great idea!

  69. Mike says:
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    As always, your rankings are awesome. Any chance you’ll have a post comparing your rankings to some other ones out there?

    • Grey

      Grey says:
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      I will in the coming weeks…

  70. Bassfisher says:
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    Keep 5

    Trout
    Hanley
    Braun
    Craig
    Pujols
    Agon
    Desmond
    Mauer
    Lee
    Salazar

    Thanks for the hard work

    • Grey

      Grey says:
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      Go per my rankings…

      • costaricanchata says:
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        @Grey:

        huh ?
        where am i supposed to find those ??

        • Grey

          Grey says:
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          They’re above…

  71. Carnac says:
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    I tried making some Carnac Top 200 rankings last month. It was so, so hard. This list is truly a work of herculean (or sisyphean?) proportions. I tip my turban to you, old friend.

    Question for Grey: are those your auction values?

    • Grey

      Grey says:
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      Ha, thanks! They are my auction values…

      • Carnac says:
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        Very cool. Based on a roster/league size?

        Two, small potential troubleshooting spots I noticed: Middlebrooks is $-3 and Cingrani is $14. Both are in a sea of $11 guys.

        • Grey

          Grey says:
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          12 team… Will look at Middlebrooks and Cingrani, thanks!

  72. Smokey

    Smokey says:
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    Trolling your comment Grey

    Fernando Rodney signs with Mariners. Sorry Farquhar.

    • Grey

      Grey says:
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      Yeah, I gotta remove Farq from the rankings…

      • Carnac says:
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        Dark Carnac wonders if Seattle didn’t sign Rodney for his arm, but rather his knees. His strong, healthy, easily transplantable knees.

        • Grey

          Grey says:
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          If they sign an octopus next, I might wonder too…

        • Sky

          Sky says:
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          Ugh, Carnac…I’m just very thankful the ‘hawks won a championship in football. This season is gonna be rough. So much money to maybe reach .500…

          • Carnac says:
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            I know, it could be really bad this summer. On the one hand, that means cheap and available tickets. On the other, having to watch Rodney pitch the 9th. Or any inning ever.

            • Sky

              Sky says:
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              Whatever inning he pitches is the inning I’m getting more beer. I do think they’ll be better this year but still too many holes on offense. And now a hole in the 9th…that we didn’t really have before…

              • Carnac says:
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                That’s what kills me, the 9th inning wasn’t a problem that needed fixing. If you could call the addition of Rodney fixing anything. I guess moneyball is for NorCal… the Mariners play murderball. Because all their players are in wheel chairs. GROAN.

                Just saw: “Mariners ‘cautiously optimistic’ on Cruz”

                Yay!

                How often you make it up to games?

                • Sky

                  Sky says:
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                  Ha! Murderball…I love it.

                  I don’t make it up often at all but want to change all that this summer. It’s on the train line and a quick trip from Eugene, would like to get my wife up there with me a few times but they’d probably be mid-week games. She works weekends. Of course, if you wanna plan a PNW trip with me, I won’t turn you down. We keep threatening to get together, why not at a ball game, eh? You’re in Portland as it is, right?

                  • J-FOH says:
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                    @Sky: this isn’t turning into some strangers on a train thing?….murderball?….Rodney!!!

                    • Sky

                      Sky says:
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                      Nah, Sam L is gonna show up. Snakes On A Train, yo!

                  • Carnac says:
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                    Yup, I’m in Portland. Let’s do a PNW trip once all this snow (!) stops.

                    • Sky

                      Sky says:
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                      Yeah…seriously what is this? When did we move to the East side of the mountains and why was I not notified?

                • J-FOH

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                  @Carnac: I did my PNW trip and got stuck in Portland for the night, just missed the Hank the 3rd show and ended up at Dante’s for it was the only place near my hotel that had people with boobs in it.

    • costaricanchata says:
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      @Smokey:

      great .
      now he’ll get to shoot one of his freakin’ arrows at the aurora borealis .

    • Aubrey Plaza's Pillow says:
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      @Smokey: damn i was this close to betting that’s exactly what would happen, should’ve got down last week.

  73. costaricanchata says:
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    if i seem more cynical than usual ,
    it’s because some commenter (i won’t mention any names)
    stood his ground and refused to trade his mike trout .

    well , at least he’s a man of conviction .
    but that doesn’t really surprise me ,
    since he lives next door to a whole continent of ancestral convicts .

    • Grey

      Grey says:
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      Haha

      • costaricanchata says:
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        @Grey:

        seriously thought i had him this time around ,
        but he ain’t giving up trout until they’re both old and (ahem) grey .

        • Grey

          Grey says:
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          Haha… You can understand why he wouldn’t give him up since you were the one trying so hard to get him…

    • SteveNZ says:
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      @costaricanchata: That guy sounds like an intractable jackass. Surprised anyone would have him in a league.

      • costaricanchata says:
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        @SteveNZ:

        naw .
        he’s a patzer , compared to some of us .

          • Grey

            Grey says:
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            @Steve ESPN is open, could you set up the Original Recipe league with 2 DL slots and 180 starts as the only changes from default? Then put it into the spreadsheet…

            • SteveNZ says:
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              @Grey: Done. How do I get to the spreadsheet?

              • Grey

                Grey says:
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                I shared it with you… Let me know if you don’t get it…

                • SteveNZ says:
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                  @Grey: Got it. Think I’ve filled it correctly. Some of the instructions don’t quite match the columns, though…

                  • Grey

                    Grey says:
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                    Great, thanks, Steve!

                  • Grey

                    Grey says:
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                    Ah, yeah, Rudy wrote the instructions, will fix…

                    • SteveNZ says:
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                      @Grey: Typical. All about the data, doesn’t care about the user experience (emoticon)

                    • Grey

                      Grey says:
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                      Ha! *shakes fist*

  74. Robby D says:
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    We all hate the idea of busting on a top pick. Obviously we use these rankings juxtaposed against ESPN and Yahoo’s rankings. It allows me to generate value by taking a guy like Goldy last year in the 3rd-4th round (after testing it in mock drafts) and get first round value. It cost me on Ruttledge last year, but since I waited until round 20+ something in non-RCL leagues, it didn’t matter, because those are all expendable picks after 20+ and his ADP was like 220 something in ESPN if I remember correctly.

    But is there a term besides a st for picking a player in a specific round and having them bust not due to injury but just because they didn’t live up to the hype.

    For example, if Kershaw returns to a 2.25ish ERA guy with 200+ K’s and all the gravy peripherals, he will be solid fantasy value, but if you picked him 3rd overall and that nets you 20th+ overall fantasy value, he’s still technically a bust for where you picked him.

    Is there already a term for that kind of guy? Specifically not due to injury, but just hype?

    Use in a sentence: “Kershaw’s a stud, but in the first round he’s a _____!”

    Or: “I’m not buying the hype on Hamilton because of his hitting, in the 4th round he’s a _____”

    I was thinking Minedraft. Although after today, I guess a Bill James Special/sleeper may make more sense.

    • Grey

      Grey says:
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      Not sure on a term, but I think we can do better than your examples…

      • J-FOH says:
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        @Grey: paying Retail

        • costaricanchata says:
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          @J-FOH:

          that’s good .

  75. Oppo Taco says:
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    Profar/Boegarts/Ryan Zimmerman, can only keep 1. No prices and can keep forever. Zimmermans first half is usually terrible and I might end up moving him for a draft pick. Too risky relying on one of those youngsters as my final keeper?

  76. J-FOH says:
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    been sick all week and catching up on some TV, have you seen True Detective yet?

    • Grey

      Grey says:
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      Yeah, it’s great… Love Woody… Bit light on plot, but the creator says he doesn’t care about crime procedures, more about character…

      • J-FOH says:
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        @Grey: Both are good, plot needs more development but it’s really different and keeps the baby’s mama on the hook. Woody’s girlfriend is super hot with a great rack….BONUS!

        • Grey

          Grey says:
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          Yeah, score/score/double score on that… I like that it’s more thematic and character driven… The plot is from hunger…

          • J-FOH

            J-FOH says:
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            @Grey: I tell you one thing it makes me never want to leave New Orleans if I ever go to Louisiana. My dad told me if I ever go to the south to stay off the back roads, of course he’s the same man that would send me down to Florence and Normandie to work.

            • Grey

              Grey says:
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              Ha… Yeah, backwoods there gets scary…

  77. El grande says:
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    I have to choose one of the following players to keep. Who do you recommend Grey:
    Matt carpenter
    Zach Grienke
    Alex Gordon
    Kimbrel
    Chapman
    Gio

    All have 3 years eligibility except Grienke.
    5×5 league with wins, era, whip, sv, Ks
    Hr, RBI, runs, avg, SB

    Thx Grey

    • J-FOH says:
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      @El grande: what else are you keeping?

      • El grande says:
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        @J-FOH: @Grey: other keepers miggie, votto, Freeman’s, and segura. It’s my last keeper Im worried about.

        Does having those others change anything? I’m still leaning gordon/kimbrel

        • Grey

          Grey says:
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          I’d lean the same way

    • Grey

      Grey says:
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      Gordon…Don’t love the choices…

      • El grande says:
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        @Grey: other keepers miggie, votto, Freeman’s, and segura. It’s my last keeper Im worried about.

        Thx Grey

  78. Dubbs says:
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    RuggiaNooooooo any thoughts on why he didn’t make the top 400? A question of playing time perhaps?

    • J-FOH says:
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      @Dubbs: he’s not worth drafting, hit .222 last year, if anything he can be a streamer on an off day in a favorable match-up.

    • Grey

      Grey says:
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      He’s a bench bat as of right now

  79. fitz says:
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    I will be wasting my last pick on Grady Sizemore

    • J-FOH says:
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      @fitz: he could be the great zombkneeno

    • Grey

      Grey says:
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      Nice

  80. Milarky says:
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    I’ve read you loud and clear on your preference to wait for pitching. I’m in a league with virtually no waiver claims (2 total) and everyone keeps 2 pitchers. My two keepers are Greinke and Anibal. Given that we can’t stream and that my keepers aren’t the best, do you still follow the same strategy, or are you more likely to prioritize a pitcher earlier than in a ‘normal’ format?

    • Grey

      Grey says:
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      You have two number ones already… But I have no idea how many teams in your league…

      • Milarky says:
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        @Grey: 12 team league, and we start 6 SPs.

  81. Joe Mother says:
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    grey!
    Foreva keeper…so, which keeper squad would you rather have? i have one of these 4, and can make deals to get to the other four – rounds you can keep in parenthesis sir. thanks for all you do.

    Tulo (3), Ian Desmond (24), JoFer (27), Gyorko (27)
    or
    JUpton(3), Machado (24), Bogaerts (27), Gyorko (27)

    is desmond too redundant b/c of tulo? orrr

    • Grey

      Grey says:
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      Desmond

  82. Clemente says:
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    grey, are you down on machado only for this year? or do you just think he kind of sucks/overrated in general? What im asking is, i have him cheap in my auction league…stick it out or abandon ship while i can get something good

    • Count de Monetball says:
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      @Clemente: Grey noted in his 3rd Basemen rankings “Probably would’ve ranked Machado above Wright if he didn’t get hurt going into the offseason. I love Machado like a mother chicken loves her mothereffin’ eggs, but, for this year, I’m passing on him in drafts.” – Thus his injury is scary for 2014. Further, I recently read that Machado said he “may have to relearn to run after having several injuries”. Not sure I remember where i read that, but yeah he has a lot of risk for 2014. Should be fine in the future, but I also read that the O’s are trying to sign Hardy to an extension, so it looks like Macho Man will stay at third…

      • goodfold2 says:
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        @Count de Monetball: what are the several injuries? i only remember one.

    • Grey

      Grey says:
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      Yup, for this year

  83. John says:
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    okay then to trade pagan for boni?

    • goodfold2 says:
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      @John: boni isn’t starting as of now (i.e. you should be able to get more in boneface deal)

  84. costaricanchata says:
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    @ Grey :

    made the deal for goldschmidt .
    sent craig , archer , and felix .

    since we can only keep 10 players ,
    this allows me to retain cano and add cobb to my keepers .
    would rather he have taken trumbo instead of craig , but ,
    an over-pay is an over-pay is an over-pay .

  85. MB says:
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    Which side you want for not just this yr but next three or so?

    Gardner/Des Jennings

    A Jax/Howie K

    The Team getting Howie K only has Ackley at 2B

    Keep everyone forever league

    Thank you

  86. Alex says:
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    Yo Grey, appreciate all the amazing work.

    How would you rank these in a dynasty startup?

    Davis
    Votto
    Hanley
    Braun
    E5
    Longo
    Cano
    Prince
    Gomez
    Stanton
    Puig

    Gracias

  87. J-FOH says:
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    RCL’s!

  88. RicoSuave says:
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    Can this list be applied to H2H , points format? if not, what is the difference? or what changes could I make?
    Thanks in advance

  89. Nate says:
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    Hey Grey, I appreciate your work as always and love your rankings… I also really liked your starting blurb about how much latitude there is and when… would you consider doing a post on how far you’re willing to “reach”.

    I mean clearly you have Gyorko/Cobb/Teheran etc alot higher than most ESPN/Yahoo lists, which means that’s where the value is… but where would you plan on drafting, let’s say Gyorko. You have him ranked 88th, and yahoo has him at 177 – if you draft him at 88 you don’t necessarily get “value” on him, you’re just making the right pick… would you wait until 120-140 when you’re in danger of losing them to another keener?

    Last year I relied heavily on your rankings (which helped, so thanks) and I reached for Machado, Harvey, Moore and Ike Davis … 2 worked out great, 1 was on par and one was a bad investment… overall win. But as I looked back i couldn’t help but wonder did I reach too early… could I have waited an extra round or two…

    Thoughts? (For Grey and others if you’ve created any rules for this sort of thing)

    • goodfold2 says:
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      @Nate: in ron shandler’s this year (baseball forecaster) there is a GREAT formula that you can plug into excel (i need to learn excel) wherein you figure out a player’s ADP, when he was drafted first to find out his standard deviation. from there you can find out what likelihood a player is able to be drafted at. So you could find out how likely you could get Gyorko, at say, 120th, or 140th. then simply grab him at whatever reasonable spot you’re willing to gamble at.

  90. yerg kcuf says:
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    I would have flip flopped danny espinosa and brandon crawford…but thats just me

  91. Bassfisher says:
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    Regarding Sonny Gray Grey

    I want to go to Colorado on/with him as much as you do but I am hesitant after looking at his opponents when he started.

    Houston twice
    Seattle twice
    Minnesota twice
    Tampa bay
    Angles
    Baltimore- probably strongest of the 10 and gave up 6 in 3.1
    Toronto

    No tigers, rangers, Red Sox, Yankees
    Angles mariners rangers within division will have better lineups
    Road era and whip were unrespectable 3.86 and 1.41, respectively

    I just don’t have the sac to believe in him as much due to those facts… Cause for concern?

    • goodfold2 says:
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      @Bassfisher: ubaldo’s schedule at end of year was even easier (just to bring up similar point to anyone claiming ubaldo “learned something”, or “remembered something” in last 2 or so months of last year)

    • Grey

      Grey says:
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      Who’s he facing in his first start?

      • Bassfisher says:
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        @Grey: Cleveland or Seattle’s improved lineup

  92. tank1 says:
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    Keeper question. I have the following options in 11 team 6×6 mixed league. I can keep 5 guys. Their draft rounds are listed in parentheses. Thanks.

    M. Cabrera (1)
    A. Jones (5)
    C. Davis (9)
    H. Bailey (14)
    Y. Molina (20)
    A. Hill (23)
    B. Hamilton (24)
    D. Salazer (25)

    • Grey

      Grey says:
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      Miggy, A. Jones, Davis, Hamilton, Bailey

  93. Peter Nincompoop says:
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    I know you hate keeper questions, so I’m going to use up my 2014 allotment and just get it over with so we can move on to debating why Xander Bogaerts is ranked #276. I’m in a long term 10-team league where you keep six players (at least two pitchers and two hitters). I have a good problem, in that I have too many guys to decide between and will more than likely trade a couple of them away for upgrades and/or draft picks, but as it stands, which six would you keep out of the following group:

    Hitters (pick 4)- McCutcheon, Fielder, Cano, Puig, Beltre, Han-Ram and Marte.
    Pitchers (pick 2)- Price, Gonzalez, Liriano, Bailey, Zimmerman and Weaver.

    I’m going to be throwing the vast majority of these guys into the draft, so their fetching price with my competitors has deflated, but I do have two offers I’m mulling over. First, Fielder, Han-Ram and Gio Gonzalez for Troy Tulowitzki and Chris Sale. Second, Han-Ram and Gio Gonzalez for Max Scherzer.

    Your opinion on the aforementioned and/or ideas on other trades, as always, is much appreciated.

    Your my boy, Blue.

    • Grey

      Grey says:
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      You do have too many guys… Here’s 6: McCutchen, Fielder, Cano, Puig… Gio, Price… The 2nd trade sounds good…

  94. Matt says:
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    I’m in a 15 man weekly roto league, (6×6, OBP league) must draft 2 of every IF spot (C,1b,2b,3b,ss), 4 OF, 5 SP, 3 RP, $300 auction budget, must keep 10 keepers, active roster 1 C,1b,2b,3b,,ss,CI,MI, 3OF,5SP, 3RP and my keepers are looking like $13 J.Lucroy, $13 Mark Tex, $9 Matt Carpenter, $1 Machado, $6 Alcides Escobar, $6 Puig, $15 Carlos Gomez, $26 Choo, $6 Beachy, do you suggest I adhere to the $70/$30 split for hitters, try and craft a Murderer’s Row, or try and make my team balanced? (Top pitchers like Waino, Stras, Sale, J-Fernandez, Cole, Wacha, Iwakuma, Medlen, Price are kept and I don’t really feel like spending $40 or more on Kershaw or a declining Verlander). Thanks again for all your work!

    • Grey

      Grey says:
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      Make your team balanced

      • Matt says:
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        @Grey: thanks Grey, so spending $35+ for a Kershaw/Felix/Darvish type would be a necessity in my case?

        • Grey

          Grey says:
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          Yup

  95. Micah Stupak says:
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    Man, dilemma. Check this:

    20 team, $260 budget, 5×5, and the only stat change that matters for our needs is K goes to K/9 and it’s not Sv but Sv+Hd

    I’ve got my keepers looking great*, but the end of pitching is a head-scratcher. I’m keeping Scherzer ($28), Fister ($12) and Teheran ($1). I can only keep one of Porcello ($6), Masterson ($7), and Kluber ($1). What to do? I am inclined towards Porcello for immediate upside, as I think the upgraded Detroit defense will be awesome for him, but Kluber is cheaper and maybe better in the long run.

    * R/RBI/SB/OBP/SLG: my batters are fantastic: W Rosario, Goldy, E Cabrera, Beltre, Pence, Heyward, C Carter. All for $143.

    • Grey

      Grey says:
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      Your pitching is fine already… Keep Kluber…

      • Micah Stupak says:
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        @Grey: Great, thanks Grey.

        • Grey

          Grey says:
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          No problem

  96. Mevs says:
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    Prince still in the top 10? C’mon, go out on a limb. He’s not finishing in the top 10 this season. This isn’t as bad as Rotoworld or anything but you’re being too safe with a lot of this IMO.

  97. Mike B says:
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    Dearest Grey, I have a groupon discount for jamba juice with your name on it if you can shed a little more light on your Hamels ranking. My apologies if that’s been touched on already. I did my best to read through the majority of comments, but I only got through the first million(they say that’s the hardest). I understand he had a terrible start last year and has a slight downward trend in numbers, but he seemed to stabilize and has been solid for a few years in most categories. I am in QS leagues, so I understand if the wins are an issue given the phils offense. Ranking at 35 among starters and 126 overall strikes me as a strong do not draft from you. Fun to see the tiers and overall rankings. Thanks for all the hard work and insight!

    • Grey

      Grey says:
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      I wrote an overrated post on Hamels specifically, and I’ll post it in the next week or so…

      • Mike B says:
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        @Grey: Thanks!

  98. Phil says:
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    I’m assuming it’s a mistake but you have Tanaka in your Top 40 SP but not your top 400 players? Where should he be on this list?

    • Grey

      Grey says:
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      That’s weird, I’ll correct it… He’s listed at 104 on my 400…I’ll need to ping Rudy…

    • Grey

      Grey says:
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      @Phil: It’s fixed, thanks for pointing it out!

  99. Jose Can't I See? says:
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    Looks like Jose Abreu is AWOL at #63.

    • Jose Can't I See? says:
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      @Jose Can’t I See?:

      Also, there is no #240. It could be that there is no #240 in the number system and I just hadn’t noticed. If so, please disregard.

  100. Jason says:
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    If WHIP was not a concern. How different would your rankings be? I play in a league where we do not count WHIP.

  101. Chis says:
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    Just discovered your site today and have burnt 6 hours already! Thanks for the great work. Noticed # 62 and 102 are missing – player deleted or just misnumbered?

    • Grey

      Grey says:
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      Thanks for the kind words! Due to international players not having ‘player pages’ we’ve been having problems with them getting deleted… 62 is Abreu and 102 is Tanaka… We’re gonna try to add them back in again…

    • Chis says:
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      @Chis: also 240.

      • Chis says:
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        @Chis: And I see this was answered a few posts above…..

        • Grey

          Grey says:
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          It was fixed…

  102. RicoSuave says:
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    Hi Grey,
    Wow, this is a lot of work man! AWESOME work…
    I’ve enjoyed your projections and player write-ups and I’ve learned and enjoyed the great articles.
    I need your help though, I’m in a 14 team H2H points league C/1B/2B/SS/3B/3 OF/5 SP/2 RP(closers) / 5 Bench players, based on my league setup and your players projections what changes do you think I should make when it comes to draft day?
    Thanks a lot

    • Grey

      Grey says:
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      Thanks! I wouldn’t change anything per se, I’d just make sure which guys to focus on at any given moment… You should have one ace, one Cole tier pitcher and follow my pairings just leaving off a guy at the end… Hitters are a bit shallower in your league… 14 team, 3 OF, isn’t really that different than 12 team 5 OF though…

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