Finally, we come to the end of the 2014 fantasy baseball rankings. (Can we start games already?) A little birdie told me we’re opening up our commenter fantasy leagues on Monday.  Then the little birdie pooped on my shoulder and I thought it was blue cheese and I put it on a cracker and– Wait, where was I?  Okay, you know that I like Avisail Garcia more than Leonys Martin in the top 60 outfielders for 2014 fantasy baseball. You know I like Alcides Escobar more than Asdrubal Cabrera as seen at the top 20 shortstops for 2014 fantasy baseball, but you don’t know how I feel about where these guys fall in the bigger picture.  Is Alcides above Avisail?  So to show you where I think players fall in relation to each other in 2014 fantasy baseball drafts, I’m putting together a top 400 for 2014 fantasy baseball.  This still needs to be taken with a grain of salt.  If you have a shortstop already and Alcides is still on the board at pick 200, you don’t draft him if you see Leonys Martin and you need an outfielder, even though Leonys is below Alcides on this list.  So I might take someone at 200 over someone at 180?  Yes, every draft is different.  With the top 10, there’s almost no latitude.  With the top 100, there’s a decent amount of latitude.  With a top 400, there’s lots of latitude.  You taking someone at 185 is more or less the same as someone else taking someone at 235.  So if you see someone who’s ranked at 250th, but want them at 200, then do what you do.  Because of the length of the top 400, there’s no pithy comments with each name, but you kinda do need to know what I’m thinking for each name, so I advise you go over each position in the 2014 fantasy baseball rankings. The top 100 and top 400 is what I would have at my drafts, along with the top 20 rankings posts.  If I were drafting online, I’d also use the Fantasy Baseball War Room (which is hopefully ready on Tuesday; this is out of my control, someone else needs to fill out the Excel spreadsheet).  Also, see our list of all players with multiple position eligibility.  Finally, here is this top 400 for 2014 fantasy baseball without any of this jibber-jabbering.  Anyway, here’s the top 400 for 2014 fantasy baseball:

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# Name Team ESPN Y! $ AB R HR RBI SB AVG IP W SV ERA WHIP K
Ronald Acuna Jr. ATL OF OF 39 592 119 40 98 41 0.287
Christian Yelich MIL OF OF 38 551 115 38 112 15 0.312
Mike Trout LAA OF OF 37 512 108 43 116 11 0.285
Cody Bellinger LAD 1B/OF 1B/OF 37 562 109 42 115 10 0.292
Trevor Story COL SS SS 35 582 105 37 102 17 0.293
Mookie Betts LAD OF OF 34 588 117 27 88 18 0.292
Francisco Lindor CLE SS SS 33 617 112 35 89 21 0.287
Trea Turner WSH SS SS 33 627 112 20 62 40 0.287
Juan Soto WSH OF OF 32 538 101 35 108 10 0.294
Fernando Tatis Jr. SD SS SS 31 593 106 32 67 30 0.259
Jose Ramirez CLE 3B 3B 31 574 89 28 96 27 0.263
Nolan Arenado COL 3B 3B 31 592 105 40 114 3 0.306
Anthony Rendon LAA 3B 3B 30 523 105 32 112 4 0.312
Freddie Freeman ATL 1B 1B 30 602 104 30 109 7 0.303
Pete Alonso NYM 1B 1B 30 588 94 44 110 1 0.263
Alex Bregman HOU SS/3B SS/3B 30 550 102 30 108 7 0.284
Gerrit Cole NYY SP SP 30 207 17 0 2.61 0.93 294
Bryce Harper PHI OF OF 28 561 105 39 111 12 0.261
Rafael Devers BOS 3B 3B 27 591 109 33 113 7 0.303
Adalberto Mondesi KC SS SS 26 557 83 16 79 52 0.258
Matt Olson OAK 1B 1B 26 604 95 39 109 1 0.273
J.D. Martinez BOS OF OF 26 517 91 33 98 2 0.288
Javier Baez CHC SS SS 25 593 103 31 108 15 0.286
Xander Bogaerts BOS SS SS 25 596 106 34 112 5 0.307
Jacob deGrom NYM SP SP 25 209 15 0 2.58 0.96 264
Justin Verlander HOU SP SP 25 205 17 0 2.66 0.98 271
Jack Flaherty STL SP SP 24 202 16 0 2.69 0.99 241
Gleyber Torres NYY 2B/SS 2B/SS 24 551 88 32 95 5 0.264
Shane Bieber CLE SP SP 24 204 16 0 2.81 1.01 248
Jose Altuve HOU 2B 2B 23 582 82 21 92 9 0.303
George Springer HOU OF OF 23 551 107 29 83 5 0.281
Max Scherzer WSH SP SP 23 179 14 0 2.83 1.02 251
Walker Buehler LAD SP SP 22 198 16 0 2.91 1.03 234
Stephen Strasburg WSH SP SP 22 192 15 0 3.03 1.03 225
Blake Snell TB SP SP 22 174 14 0 3.12 1.09 214
Aaron Judge NYY OF OF 22 474 101 35 91 3 0.262
Starling Marte ARI OF OF 21 581 96 22 86 22 0.289
Jonathan Villar MIA 2B/SS 2B/SS 21 564 84 16 68 31 0.257
Ketel Marte ARI 2B/OF 2B/SS/ OF 21 596 95 27 79 9 0.308
Yordan Alvarez HOU DH OF 21 533 88 35 105 2 0.291
Ozzie Albies ATL 2B 2B 21 627 102 25 79 15 0.291
Keston Hiura MIL 2B 2B 20 571 80 28 91 10 0.264
Anthony Rizzo CHC 1B 1B 20 564 92 31 106 4 0.295
Jose Abreu CHW 1B 1B 20 608 89 34 109 2 0.280
Lucas Giolito CHW SP SP 20 197 15 0 3.27 1.05 243
Patrick Corbin WSH SP SP 19 203 15 0 3.36 1.09 242
Eloy Jimenez CHW OF OF 19 584 86 36 102 1 0.284
Austin Meadows TB OF OF 19 581 91 27 88 11 0.277
Manny Machado SD SS/3B SS/3B 19 591 89 34 102 6 0.269
Eugenio Suarez CIN 3B 3B 19 581 82 38 106 3 0.274
Luis Castillo CIN SP SP 18 196 16 0 3.32 1.09 237
Chris Paddack SD SP SP 18 174 12 0 3.03 0.96 196
Jorge Soler KC OF OF 18 584 83 35 103 3 0.271
Yoan Moncada CHW 3B 3B 18 555 83 27 94 10 0.272
Vladimir Guerrero Jr. TOR 3B 3B 18 571 79 31 92 1 0.291
Max Muncy LAD 1B/2B/ 3B 1B/2B/ 3B 18 505 93 35 97 4 0.265
Marcus Semien OAK SS SS 18 617 108 24 81 11 0.282
Yu Darvish CHC SP SP 18 182 14 0 3.41 1.09 231
Luis Severino NYY SP SP 17 172 14 0 3.24 1.04 201
Charlie Morton TB SP SP 17 191 15 0 3.36 1.10 231
Ramon Laureano OAK OF OF 17 576 82 26 77 15 0.272
Matt Chapman OAK 3B 3B 17 579 95 38 104 1 0.256
Josh Donaldson MIN 3B 3B 17 509 94 33 98 3 0.254
Mike Moustakas CIN 2B/3B 2B/3B 17 570 77 34 90 3 0.252
Tim Anderson CHW SS SS 16 582 87 22 74 21 0.272
Bo Bichette TOR SS SS 16 588 97 18 73 20 0.284
Sonny Gray CIN SP SP 16 197 14 0 3.27 1.10 217
Eddie Rosario MIN OF OF 16 579 94 31 107 4 0.281
Nelson Cruz MIN DH DH 16 476 88 36 101 0 0.283
Charlie Blackmon COL OF OF 16 571 104 27 79 2 0.288
Giancarlo Stanton NYY OF OF 16 512 84 34 88 2 0.272
Aaron Nola PHI SP SP 16 211 15 0 3.51 1.07 234
Chris Sale BOS SP SP 16 154 12 0 3.35 1.06 214
Zack Greinke HOU SP SP 16 205 16 0 3.44 1.09 184
Paul Goldschmidt STL 1B 1B 16 586 91 30 96 3 0.264
Clayton Kershaw LAD SP SP 15 164 13 0 3.42 1.05 162
Josh Hader MIL RP RP 15 71 5 41 2.48 0.84 127
Kirby Yates SD RP RP 15 61 3 42 2.37 0.91 98
Aroldis Chapman NYY RP RP 15 59 4 39 2.41 1.10 91
Jose Berrios MIN SP SP 15 202 15 0 3.54 1.11 204
Trevor Bauer CIN SP SP 15 215 13 0 3.61 1.16 260
Kris Bryant CHC 3B/OF 3B/OF 15 559 103 27 81 4 0.278
Joey Gallo TEX OF OF 15 498 76 32 88 6 0.247
Tommy Pham SD OF OF 15 579 79 17 69 23 0.271
Oscar Mercado CLE OF OF 15 564 78 17 63 31 0.261
Luis Robert CHW OF OF 15 514 78 22 59 24 0.248
Victor Robles WSH OF OF 15 567 83 14 61 32 0.261
Marcell Ozuna ATL OF OF 15 584 84 31 97 5 0.274
Michael Conforto NYM OF OF 14 554 93 33 102 7 0.254
Nicholas Castellanos CIN OF OF 14 607 88 24 81 3 0.277
J.T. Realmuto PHI C C 14 527 91 24 82 3 0.278
DJ LeMahieu NYY 1B/2B/ 3B 1B/2B/ 3B 14 596 94 17 77 5 0.288
Whit Merrifield KC 2B/OF 1B/2B/ OF 14 611 92 14 71 15 0.305
Lance Lynn TEX SP SP 14 206 15 0 3.58 1.20 238
Eduardo Rodriguez BOS SP SP 14 205 14 0 3.64 1.24 219
Josh Bell PIT 1B 1B 13 547 87 29 96 2 0.271
Yuli Gurriel HOU 1B/3B 1B/3B 13 557 71 24 82 5 0.294
Eduardo Escobar ARI 2B/3B 2B/3B 13 571 78 26 94 4 0.264
Jeff McNeil NYM 2B/3B/ OF 2B/3B/ OF 13 589 102 18 70 6 0.306
Brandon Woodruff MIL SP SP 13 184 15 0 3.43 1.12 207
Dinelson Lamet SD SP SP 13 168 10 0 3.86 1.22 219
Gary Sanchez NYY C C 13 427 68 35 80 0 0.236
Roberto Osuna HOU RP RP 13 63 3 38 2.78 0.98 69
Yasiel Puig FA OF OF 13 541 74 24 79 14 0.269
Hyun-Jin Ryu TOR SP SP 13 167 13 0 3.32 1.09 153
Kenley Jansen LAD RP RP 13 60 4 36 2.92 1.01 78
Yasmani Grandal CHW C/1B C/1B 13 505 72 25 77 3 0.241
Zac Gallen ARI SP SP 13 171 13 0 3.42 1.17 197
Michael Brantley HOU OF OF 12 567 84 20 82 4 0.293
Zack Wheeler PHI SP SP 12 201 13 0 3.67 1.22 203
Jake Odorizzi MIN SP SP 12 172 14 0 3.48 1.24 184
Taylor Rogers MIN RP RP 12 64 3 34 2.54 1.01 78
Andrew Benintendi BOS OF OF 12 571 91 19 84 9 0.284
Liam Hendriks OAK RP RP 12 68 2 35 2.46 1.01 97
Brad Hand CLE RP RP 12 62 5 35 3.09 1.17 87
Shohei Ohtani LAA DH DH 12 417 54 20 67 9 0.284
Franmil Reyes CLE OF OF 12 544 73 39 90 1 0.271
Willie Calhoun TEX OF OF 12 524 62 27 77 5 0.282
Craig Kimbrel CHC RP RP 12 54 2 31 3.17 1.12 77
Kyle Schwarber CHC OF OF 12 518 74 37 84 2 0.257
Tyler Glasnow TB SP SP 11 105 10 0 3.77 1.20 128
Brandon Workman BOS RP RP 11 61 4 33 3.02 1.10 76
Cavan Biggio TOR 2B 1B/2B/ OF 11 571 71 25 78 20 0.246
Shohei Ohtani LAA SP SP 11 103 9 0 3.48 1.23 121
Nick Anderson TB RP RP 11 68 6 31 2.91 1.03 103
Ken Giles TOR RP RP 11 58 3 27 2.38 1.02 83
Miguel Sano MIN 3B 1B/3B 11 524 82 43 94 1 0.241
Noah Syndergaard NYM SP SP 11 188 13 0 3.87 1.21 196
Mike Clevinger CLE SP SP 11 131 10 0 3.07 1.06 166
Hunter Dozier KC 3B/OF 1B/3B/ OF 10 546 77 29 88 7 0.255
Carlos Carrasco CLE SP SP 10 123 8 0 3.54 1.17 149
Christian Walker ARI 1B 1B 10 554 82 31 93 4 0.257
Corey Kluber TEX SP SP 10 158 10 0 3.81 1.17 164
Trey Mancini BAL 1B/OF 1B/OF 10 591 88 28 101 2 0.277
Robbie Ray ARI SP SP 10 186 11 0 4.06 1.35 241
Scott Kingery PHI 3B/OF 2B/SS/ 3B/OF 10 582 80 22 69 24 0.271
Amed Rosario NYM SS SS 10 578 88 17 70 23 0.294
Didi Gregorius PHI SS SS 10 546 66 25 81 5 0.268
Max Fried ATL SP SP 10 174 14 0 3.77 1.27 184
Danny Santana TEX 1B/OF 1B/2B/ SS/3B/ OF 10 527 78 22 84 13 0.262
Mike Soroka ATL SP SP 10 183 12 0 3.66 1.10 151
Max Kepler MIN OF OF 10 541 84 32 92 3 0.250
Madison Bumgarner ARI SP SP 10 190 13 0 3.72 1.12 184
Rhys Hoskins PHI 1B 1B 10 582 83 32 97 3 0.233
Kyle Hendricks CHC SP SP 10 184 13 0 3.41 1.12 154
Edwin Encarnacion CHW 1B 1B 9 477 78 32 90 0 0.244
Carlos Correa HOU SS SS 9 516 81 27 89 3 0.271
Carlos Santana CLE 1B 1B 9 567 83 27 88 3 0.247
Kenta Maeda MIN SP SP 9 152 10 0 3.67 1.10 162
Dansby Swanson ATL SS SS 9 566 82 22 72 12 0.274
Marcus Stroman NYM SP SP 9 182 13 0 3.47 1.27 172
J.D. Davis NYM 3B/OF 3B/OF 9 534 74 28 82 3 0.288
Willson Contreras CHC C C 8 425 66 25 71 1 0.258
Lourdes Gurriel Jr. TOR OF 2B/OF 8 569 78 28 84 7 0.252
Tommy Edman STL 2B/3B 2B/3B/ OF 8 568 86 14 56 27 0.284
Gavin Lux LAD 2B 2B 8 403 54 17 51 10 0.271
David Dahl COL OF OF 8 467 72 20 78 4 0.281
Brandon Lowe TB 2B 1B/2B/ OF 8 451 59 25 68 7 0.257
Khris Davis OAK DH DH 8 577 74 36 81 0 0.238
Raisel Iglesias CIN RP RP 8 69 4 33 3.61 1.18 81
Edwin Diaz NYM RP RP 8 61 4 34 3.12 1.15 103
Kyle Tucker HOU OF OF 7 378 45 17 54 10 0.252
Byron Buxton MIN OF OF 7 388 61 15 55 15 0.256
Mallex Smith SEA OF OF 7 477 58 5 51 31 0.241
Julio Urias LAD SP SP 7 142 10 0 3.13 1.10 164
Michael Chavis BOS 1B/2B 1B/2B/ 3B 7 514 77 26 85 5 0.249
Frankie Montas OAK SP SP 6 162 13 0 3.45 1.14 176
Joc Pederson LAD 1B/OF 1B/OF 6 403 71 31 61 3 0.251
Luke Weaver ARI SP SP 6 139 9 0 3.55 1.12 148
Ryan McMahon COL 2B/3B 1B/2B/ 3B 6 514 74 27 86 4 0.248
Andrew Heaney LAA SP SP 6 156 8 0 3.88 1.22 183
Jesus Luzardo OAK SP SP 6 106 7 0 3.18 1.11 134
Hector Neris PHI RP RP 6 63 3 33 3.04 1.05 83
Alex Colome CHW RP RP 6 63 3 34 3.56 1.15 58
Ian Happ CHC OF 1B/2B/ 3B/OF 6 456 62 24 70 6 0.266
Ryan Braun MIL OF OF 6 467 73 20 75 9 0.262
Elvis Andrus TEX SS SS 6 596 85 9 71 26 0.281
Andrew McCutchen PHI OF OF 6 546 83 24 67 2 0.257
Willy Adames TB SS SS 6 566 74 24 81 5 0.268
Shin-Soo Choo TEX OF OF 6 524 81 20 58 6 0.259
Paul DeJong STL SS SS 6 577 78 31 92 7 0.241
Jorge Polanco MIN SS SS 5 598 88 22 76 6 0.277
Miguel Andujar NYY DH DH 5 488 71 26 81 1 0.284
Corey Seager LAD SS SS 5 523 84 24 93 1 0.275
Jose Leclerc TEX RP RP 5 64 3 27 3.43 1.27 91
Yoshitomo Tsutsugo TB OF OF 5 451 61 26 72 0 0.248
Sean Manaea OAK SP SP 5 156 9 0 3.91 1.15 138
Shogo Akiyama CIN OF OF 5 442 81 15 62 12 0.284
David Peralta ARI OF OF 5 512 84 21 73 4 0.282
Bryan Reynolds PIT OF OF 5 591 90 16 69 4 0.281
David Price LAD SP SP 5 138 11 0 3.87 1.25 142
Hansel Robles LAA RP RP 5 66 3 31 3.04 1.06 70
Gregory Polanco PIT OF OF 5 489 70 20 71 7 0.247
Alex Verdugo BOS OF OF 5 454 79 16 57 5 0.291
Aristides Aquino CIN OF OF 5 427 61 20 66 7 0.244
Archie Bradley ARI RP RP 5 67 4 30 3.77 1.35 76
Jo Adell LAA OF OF 5 387 45 14 52 7 0.257
Mike Minor TEX SP SP 5 155 10 0 4.04 1.27 144
Kolten Wong STL 2B 2B 5 517 79 9 64 17 0.282
German Marquez COL SP SP 5 182 11 0 4.07 1.18 189
Lance McCullers Jr. HOU SP SP 5 121 10 0 3.67 1.19 131
Matthew Boyd DET SP SP 5 181 10 0 4.27 1.21 207
Sean Doolittle WSH RP RP 5 56 3 26 3.56 1.18 58
Mike Foltynewicz ATL SP SP 5 147 9 0 4.21 1.27 134
Joe Musgrove PIT SP SP 5 177 10 0 3.87 1.19 168
Renato Nunez BAL 1B 1B/3B 4 551 74 33 93 1 0.241
Carlos Martinez STL SP SP 4 127 8 0 3.51 1.25 134
Giovanny Gallegos STL RP RP 4 77 5 17 2.86 1.02 94
Kevin Newman PIT 2B/SS 2B/SS/ 3B 4 527 77 7 61 18 0.289
Will Smith ATL C C 4 474 61 23 72 3 0.262
Mark Melancon ATL RP RP 4 64 4 18 3.77 1.34 65
Adrian Houser MIL SP SP 4 158 10 0 3.81 1.22 161
Joe Jimenez DET RP RP 4 61 3 26 3.96 1.24 76
Griffin Canning LAA SP SP 4 131 8 0 4.02 1.25 144
Jean Segura PHI SS SS 4 561 74 12 71 13 0.276
Joey Lucchesi SD SP SP 4 181 10 0 4.05 1.24 176
Ian Kennedy KC RP RP 3 62 3 31 3.61 1.24 64
Rougned Odor TEX 2B 2B 3 491 61 25 70 8 0.212
Caleb Smith MIA SP SP 3 177 9 0 4.32 1.26 195
Jonathan Schoop DET 2B 2B 3 519 62 24 71 1 0.241
Garrett Hampson COL 2B/OF 2B/SS/ OF 3 304 51 10 43 17 0.251
Brendan McKay TB SP SP 3 112 8 0 3.87 1.18 131
Chris Archer PIT SP SP 3 172 9 0 4.23 1.31 188
James Paxton NYY SP SP 3 117 8 0 3.88 1.19 146
Will Smith ATL RP RP 3 62 7 16 3.07 1.11 84
Jon Gray COL SP SP 3 164 12 0 4.28 1.34 167
Andrelton Simmons LAA SS SS 3 554 67 14 71 9 0.271
Christian Vazquez BOS C C/1B 3 466 58 18 68 5 0.272
Jurickson Profar SD 2B 2B/OF 3 443 54 18 59 8 0.231
Mychal Givens BAL RP RP 3 66 1 17 4.38 1.21 84
Anthony DeSclafani CIN SP SP 3 174 11 0 3.76 1.18 172
Ryan Yarbrough TB SP SP 3 154 13 0 3.42 1.03 129
Seth Lugo NYM RP RP 3 83 5 3 2.44 1.02 105
Yonny Chirinos TB SP SP 3 138 9 0 3.72 1.08 121
Aaron Civale CLE SP SP 3 127 9 0 3.66 1.07 106
Brian Anderson MIA 3B/OF 3B/OF 2 554 74 23 81 3 0.271
Garrett Richards SD SP SP 2 127 8 0 3.64 1.28 144
Dellin Betances NYM RP RP 2 58 5 5 2.34 1.02 94
Gio Urshela NYY 3B 3B 2 488 65 20 69 2 0.302
Johnny Cueto SF SP SP 2 167 9 0 3.77 1.22 134
Justin Turner LAD 3B 3B 2 491 71 22 74 2 0.278
Dallas Keuchel CHW SP SP 2 184 12 0 3.86 1.32 144
Matt Barnes BOS RP RP 2 68 6 6 3.21 1.22 104
Keone Kela PIT RP RP 2 56 2 16 3.51 1.18 66
Tommy La Stella LAA 2B/3B 2B/3B 2 468 62 17 67 1 0.291
Mitch Garver MIN C C 2 402 56 21 67 0 0.261
Diego Castillo TB RP RP 2 70 5 7 3.02 1.14 82
Tony Watson SF RP RP 2 61 2 13 4.07 1.24 58
Brandon Kintzler MIA RP RP 2 61 3 14 4.21 1.36 50
Adam Eaton WSH OF OF 2 512 88 13 54 13 0.282
Starlin Castro WSH 2B/3B 2B/3B 2 571 54 23 68 2 0.266
Jorge Alfaro MIA C C 2 454 53 20 61 5 0.259
Wade Davis COL RP RP 2 48 2 18 4.87 1.48 50
Wilson Ramos NYM C C 2 454 54 13 68 0 0.291
Salvador Perez KC C C 1 469 53 21 73 0 0.238
Robinson Chirinos TEX C C 1 414 52 17 56 2 0.231
Carson Kelly ARI C C 1 412 51 17 56 2 0.231
Francisco Mejia SD C C 1 404 44 15 52 2 0.273
Omar Narvaez MIL C C 1 344 56 18 66 0 0.281
Nick Madrigal CHW 2B 2B 1 324 52 4 22 21 0.293
Mitch Keller PIT SP SP 1 148 7 0 4.17 1.30 166
Kevin Gausman SF SP SP 1 131 7 0 4.09 1.30 126
Jose Urquidy HOU SP SP 1 129 9 0 4.07 1.14 126
Lorenzo Cain MIL OF OF 1 545 71 12 54 13 0.258
Pablo Lopez MIA SP SP 1 151 9 0 4.11 1.19 131
Kevin Pillar BOS OF OF 1 487 61 18 66 12 0.264
Dustin May LAD SP SP 1 104 5 0 3.48 1.09 98
Zach Eflin PHI SP SP 1 177 10 0 4.04 1.29 156
Justin Upton LAA OF OF 1 491 67 25 77 2 0.223
Zach Plesac CLE SP SP 1 144 10 0 4.12 1.19 131
Mark Canha OAK OF 1B/OF 1 426 71 21 76 4 0.261
Daniel Hudson WSH RP RP 1 71 5 7 3.71 1.27 69
Steven Matz NYM SP SP 1 158 10 0 4.16 1.29 156
Matt Magill SEA RP RP 1 60 1 8 4.32 1.36 73
C.J. Cron DET 1B 1B 1 524 59 28 71 0 0.262
Yoshihisa Hirano SEA RP RP 1 58 1 8 4.34 1.32 63
Chris Bassitt OAK SP SP 1 162 11 0 3.96 1.23 154
Sandy Alcantara MIA SP SP 1 192 9 0 4.29 1.34 164
Jordan Yamamoto MIA SP SP 1 138 9 0 4.14 1.21 142
Justus Sheffield SEA SP SP 0 139 7 0 4.23 1.41 144
Mauricio Dubon SF 2B 2B/SS 0 512 71 11 54 13 0.276
Jose Iglesias BAL SS SS 0 517 77 9 54 5 0.266
Freddy Peralta MIL SP SP 0 76 7 6 4.29 1.39 102
Ryan Pressly HOU RP RP 0 68 6 4 2.98 1.02 91
Colin Poche TB RP RP 0 54 4 6 3.21 1.05 75
Seth Brown OAK OF OF 0 403 52 21 58 5 0.277
Derek Fisher TOR OF OF 0 408 51 21 61 11 0.225
Scott Oberg COL RP RP 0 51 2 5 3.01 1.18 53
Ryne Stanek MIA RP RP 0 72 3 6 4.09 1.34 77
Kyle Crick PIT RP RP 0 64 3 7 4.24 1.36 83
Avisail Garcia MIL OF OF 0 407 54 22 58 4 0.284
Ryan Mountcastle BAL 1B 1B 0 444 51 19 62 2 0.252
Austin Hays BAL OF OF 0 507 66 18 51 12 0.244
Andrew Miller STL RP RP 0 60 4 7 4.13 1.34 74
Eric Hosmer SD 1B 1B 0 589 67 19 74 2 0.261
Evan White SEA 1B 1B 0 461 57 15 66 4 0.263
Tyler O’Neill STL OF OF 0 454 63 25 70 3 0.243
Drew Pomeranz SD RP RP -1 81 5 4 3.37 1.07 105
Daniel Murphy COL 1B 1B -1 456 67 15 75 1 0.271
Trent Grisham SD OF OF -1 453 64 19 51 13 0.254
Sam Hilliard COL OF OF -1 312 34 18 50 6 0.242
Christin Stewart DET OF OF -1 452 51 22 58 0 0.238
Isan Diaz MIA 2B 2B -1 509 59 22 68 5 0.235
Garrett Cooper MIA 1B/OF 1B/OF -1 451 56 17 64 0 0.271
Austin Riley ATL OF 1B/3B/ OF -1 407 58 20 65 2 0.241
Sean Murphy OAK C C -1 387 41 16 48 0 0.251
Masahiro Tanaka NYY SP SP -1 156 10 0 4.31 1.26 134
Sergio Romo MIN RP RP -1 56 4 4 3.23 1.14 59
Tom Murphy SEA C C -1 384 42 19 52 4 0.233
Joakim Soria OAK RP RP -1 61 4 3 3.67 1.09 67
Luis Urias MIL 2B/SS 2B/SS -1 481 42 14 48 6 0.262
Carter Kieboom WSH SS SS -1 345 34 13 46 4 0.291
Robinson Cano NYM 2B 2B -1 464 61 16 66 1 0.251
Hanser Alberto BAL 2B/3B 2B/3B -1 536 72 14 49 4 0.293
Luis Arraez MIN 2B/OF 2B/SS/ 3B/OF -2 423 51 4 34 3 0.319
Anthony Santander BAL OF OF -2 561 64 25 75 2 0.267
Shane Greene ATL RP RP -2 66 3 4 3.02 1.22 67
Nick Senzel CIN OF OF -2 364 46 12 44 10 0.267
Danny Jansen TOR C C -2 377 47 14 51 2 0.241
Jesse Winker CIN OF OF -2 465 71 15 51 1 0.284
Shaun Anderson SF RP RP -2 87 2 6 3.69 1.28 76
Rafael Montero TEX RP RP -2 68 3 4 3.19 1.04 73
Nomar Mazara CHW OF OF -2 478 65 21 61 2 0.263
Travis D’Arnaud ATL C/1B C/1B -2 378 45 15 49 0 0.246
Mike Fiers OAK SP SP -2 167 10 0 4.09 1.19 122
Ty Buttrey LAA RP RP -2 74 4 3 3.30 1.21 82
Yadier Molina STL C C -2 421 48 10 53 6 0.264
Miguel Cabrera DET 1B 1B -2 477 63 15 68 0 0.277
Blake Treinen LAD RP RP -2 69 5 4 3.67 1.30 72
Mike Yastrzemski SF OF OF -2 540 71 23 74 3 0.254
Kurt Suzuki WSH C C -2 351 42 15 54 0 0.261
Dylan Bundy LAA SP SP -2 179 9 0 4.34 1.36 181
Jose Alvarado TB RP RP -2 61 2 5 3.67 1.34 77
Kevin Kiermaier TB OF OF -2 431 62 13 64 17 0.233
Yandy Diaz TB 1B/3B 1B/3B -2 423 59 15 54 2 0.272
Kyle Gibson TEX SP SP -2 183 12 0 4.16 1.32 177
John Gant STL RP RP -3 69 6 4 3.81 1.31 62
Zack Britton NYY RP RP -3 66 5 4 3.48 1.21 60
Roberto Perez CLE C C -3 377 41 15 52 0 0.228
Jose Quintana CHC SP SP -3 172 12 0 4.15 1.34 151
Hunter Renfroe TB OF OF -3 418 59 28 69 3 0.226
Kole Calhoun ARI OF OF -3 418 59 28 69 3 0.226
Ronald Guzman TEX 1B 1B -3 467 54 22 61 2 0.237
Michael Pineda MIN SP SP -3 132 9 0 4.23 1.21 123
Dexter Fowler STL OF OF -3 471 63 15 58 5 0.231
Buster Posey SF C C -3 414 48 8 52 2 0.254
Jeff Samardzija SF SP SP -3 172 7 0 3.87 1.18 139
Pedro Baez LAD RP RP -3 71 5 2 2.94 1.06 73
Jon Lester CHC SP SP -3 164 11 0 4.29 1.34 151
Nick Wittgren CLE RP RP -3 63 6 4 3.71 1.21 65
Chance Sisco BAL C C -3 378 42 14 48 0 0.212
Anibal Sanchez WSH SP SP -3 163 10 0 4.14 1.31 131
Yoan Lopez ARI RP RP -3 59 2 3 3.10 1.08 61
Adam Ottavino NYY RP RP -3 72 5 2 2.77 1.27 86
Josh James HOU RP RP -3 64 6 1 3.87 1.28 95
Teoscar Hernandez TOR OF OF -3 454 52 22 61 4 0.219
Emilio Pagan SD RP RP -3 66 5 3 2.71 0.97 87
Dakota Hudson STL SP SP -3 164 9 0 4.08 1.38 132
JaCoby Jones DET OF OF -3 514 77 12 54 12 0.229
Gio Gonzalez CHW SP SP -3 167 9 0 4.22 1.38 148
Hunter Harvey BAL RP RP -3 64 3 6 4.51 1.38 86
Seranthony Dominguez PHI RP RP -3 55 4 2 3.88 1.34 67
Julio Teheran LAA SP SP -3 161 8 0 4.21 1.34 141
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Anthony Bass TOR RP RP -5 51 4 4 3.81 1.29 48
Zack Collins CHW DH C -5 271 22 11 35 0 0.226
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Miles Mikolas STL SP SP -5 147 8 0 3.96 1.21 117
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Mitch Moreland BOS 1B 1B -6 401 53 20 64 1 0.248
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Zach Davies SD SP SP -6 177 8 0 4.36 1.35 119
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Victor Caratini CHC C/1B C/1B -6 266 35 9 37 1 0.269
Austin Nola SEA 1B C/1B/ 2B -6 342 35 7 41 3 0.254
Tyler Beede SF SP SP -6 139 8 0 4.51 1.41 131
James McCann CHW C C -6 244 24 9 34 1 0.242
Rowan Wick CHC RP RP -6 64 3 3 3.89 1.31 67
Michael Wacha NYM SP SP -6 93 5 0 4.36 1.38 78
Eric Lauer MIL SP SP -6 158 9 0 4.37 1.33 149
Tyler Flowers ATL C C -6 232 23 9 32 0 0.242
Chase Anderson TOR SP SP -6 154 8 0 4.24 1.30 135
Ross Stripling LAD SP RP -6 102 7 0 3.67 1.18 102
Alex Wood LAD SP SP -6 94 6 0 3.88 1.28 84
Sean Newcomb ATL SP SP -6 116 8 0 3.87 1.36 112
Shun Yamaguchi TOR P P -6 126 8 0 4.37 1.33 118
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Joe Ross WSH SP SP -6 97 5 0 3.84 1.34 88
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Jose Osuna PIT 1B/OF 1B/3B/ OF -6 286 34 12 42 1 0.269
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Andres Munoz SD RP RP -6 62 5 1 2.77 1.12 83
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Shed Long SEA 2B 2B/OF -6 304 48 10 54 9 0.238
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David Bote CHC 2B/3B 2B/SS/ 3B -6 326 48 13 52 4 0.252
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Reese McGuire TOR C C -7 264 31 6 34 1 0.233
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Josh Rojas ARI OF OF -7 356 45 9 42 14 0.268
Casey Mize DET SP SP -7 68 3 0 3.44 1.16 71
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Greg Allen CLE OF OF -7 327 41 6 43 15 0.234
Brandon Nimmo NYM OF OF -7 415 66 15 41 5 0.230
Steven Duggar SF OF OF -7 386 40 8 38 7 0.238
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Michael Kopech CHW SP SP -7 64 4 0 4.29 1.40 72
Brent Honeywell TB SP SP -7 49 4 0 3.68 1.28 55
Edward Cabrera MIA SP SP -7 72 3 0 4.18 1.31 84
Sixto Sanchez MIA SP SP -7 44 3 0 4.04 1.28 41
Amir Garrett CIN RP RP -7 70 4 2 4.26 1.38 97
Jason Castro LAA C C -7 381 38 10 44 0 0.228
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MacKenzie Gore SD SP SP -7 31 1 0 4.12 1.35 34
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Will Harris WSH RP RP -7 57 5 2 2.64 1.04 60
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Leury Garcia CHW OF SS/OF -7 302 41 6 31 14 0.272
Ty France SD 2B/3B 2B/3B -7 209 31 12 42 0 0.240
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Cole Tucker PIT SS SS -7 156 26 5 27 4 0.254
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  1. Troy: The Collector

    Troy says:
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    Kyle Seager is gonna break a lot of records if he hits .999 lol. Great stuff grey, Always love ur stuff. Same with everyone who writes for razzball.

    • Grey

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      @Troy: Thanks for pointing that out, will fix the typo…

      • Troy: The Collector

        troy says:
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        @Grey: srry was trying to be funny… honest mistake

  2. Todd says:
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    You really down on machado that much this year? I know he had a bad injury but looks like he will be healthy. Really just have him in a keeper for $1 and want to be confident with him as my 3b, as confident as I was last year when I traded longo away bc I had machado step up

    • shibboleth says:
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      @Todd: I think Machado will be a better real-life player for a few more years before he takes off in fantasyland. Keeping for a dollar is awesome, but there are some health and consistency issues to be aware of.

    • BigSloppyMacDaddy says:
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      @Todd: it’s the “counting your chickens” theory

      • Todd says:
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        @BigSloppyMacDaddy: well I figured I wasn’t keeping longo at $35 + 5 anyways, the question remains do I draft another 3b or see how machado plays out?

        • Dead Heads says:
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          @Todd: Keep Machado, I don’t see him being any worse then he was last year, and he’s guaranteed playing time every day because of his stellar defense. He might get a day off or two to start the season because of the injury, but honestly I don’t get why everyone is so down on him. He’s in a great ballpark, and he’s only going to get stronger/more comfortable in the majors. I could see his power output taking a step forward this season if anything, and he generally helps in all categories hitting in a good spot in a strong lineup.

          • goodfold2 says:
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            @Dead Heads: terrible walk rate. when he was very useful it was mostly BABIP driven.

  3. Aaron says:
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    You have joe Mauer at 212. I repeat you have jor Mauer at 212, nothing you say can be taken seriously because you have the future al batting champ at 212.

    • Ra'zball Al Ghul says:
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      @Aaron: MacDaddy is that you?

    • Ra'zball Al Ghul says:
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      @Aaron: take away the batting average the last couple years and mauer gives waiver wire stats for every other category

      • BigSloppyMacDaddy says:
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        @Ra’zball Al Ghul: just like removing the home runs from Stanton. BOO ya!

        • J-FOH says:
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          @BigSloppyMacDaddy: HR are more scarce than Avg so you’re an idiot

        • Ra'zball Al Ghul says:
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          @BigSloppyMacDaddy: I don’t want anything to do with Stanton personally. Too many Ks and too big a disparity between BABIPs and batting averages, makes me think he will never put it all together.

          • J-FOH says:
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            @Ra’zball Al Ghul: I willnever say never on a player, if he’s there at the end of the 3rd round I have to take him. It’s all about draft day value. Are you paying for your pick or are you getting a good deal. It’s like buying a car, some dealers drop the price far more than others and you can’t pas it up. Some drafts will give you that

            • Ra'zball Al Ghul says:
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              @J-FOH: fair enough

            • costaricanchata says:
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              @J-FOH:

              not buying the car analogy .

              • J-FOH says:
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                @costaricanchata: it’s like different dealers are like different drafts, the prices change from draft to draft like dealer to dealer

          • Charlie says:
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            @Ra’zball Al Ghul:

            He’s only 24. You don’t see him growing into a better hitter? Also once he’s off the Marlins his value will sky rocket with competent talent around him. In a keeper league I’m considering him with my second round pick. Also keep in mind 30 players have been removed from the draft (10 teams x 3 players per team).

            So I’m looking at the likes of Stanton, Wright, Pujols, Bautista at my pick. Strongly considering Stanton.

      • Hawk says:
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        @Ra’zball Al Ghul:

        Take away his one great season and his average stat line is:

        .317 / 9 / 60 / 65

        • BigSloppyMacDaddy says:
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          @Hawk: lol take out one year and no adjustment for games played….great analysis.

          • Hawk says:
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            @BigSloppyMacDaddy:

            Ok, you want to have fun? Lets have some fun:

            Joe Mauer career stats minus the one excellent year he had and 2004 where he only played 35 games. I even prorated stats for him for the half season he played in 2011:

            Year: AVG / HR / RBI / R
            2005: .295 / 9 / 55 / 61
            2006: .347 / 13 / 84 / 86
            2007: .293 / 7 / 60 / 62
            2008: .328 / 9 / 85 / 98
            2010: .327 / 9 / 75 / 88
            2011: .287 / 3/ 30 / 38 (82 games – prorates to 6 / 60 / 76)
            2012: .319 / 10 / 85 / 81
            2013: .324 / 11 / 47 / 62

            Batting average for these years: .317
            Average HR (including prorated adjustment for 2011): 9.25
            Average RBI (including prorated adjustment for 2011): 68.875
            Average R (including prorated adjustment for 2011) : 76.75

            .317 / 9 / 68 / 76

            Helps you in BA, hurts you in HR, RBI and SB. Neutral in R.

            212 is about right.

            • Sky

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              He’s not worth it, Hawk. He ‘respects the site’. That’s why he shows up to rip on it daily. That said…nice work!

              • goodfold2 says:
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                @Sky: yr right sky, but’s fun to see if he’d talk himself into huge line of b.s. Just like being back in Phil school.

    • Mike says:
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      @Aaron: Mauer at 212 looks pretty good. He’s a great hitter but look at the lineup around him. There may not be another player that hits higher than .260 or has an OBP higher than .320! His counting stats are going to be brutal.

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    Joe mauer at 221 stood out for me. I saw some experts draft the other day where he was taken in the 3rd round. Experts? Hah!

    Seeing Cole hamels so low was also a bit jarring. I get it though. Injury concern, that ballpark and the Phillies are pretty bad.

    I do think bunching Chapman. Kimbrel and kenley together seems incomplete without Greg Holland. With perez, Wilson and others breathing down Jansens neck, Holland may actually be the safer pick. Hes elite, has job security and I hate to say it – I think Kansas Will make some noise this year.and give him alot of save opportunities.

    I also noticed that pitching is deep.

    Nice work grey!

    • HWY68 says:
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      @gareth:

      Word on KC. That bullpen is filthy.

      Tons of elite closers this year. Chapman stands out, though — his new manager digs multi-inning saves.

    • Cram It says:
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      @gareth: Annnnnnd let the hair splitting commence…

    • Cram It says:
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      @gareth: Holland is the next RP off the board. If you really want a reliever and Kimbrell, Chapman and Jansen are gone and you DON’T take Holland simply because he’s not ranked in the same tier of relivers, you probably shouldn’t be playing fantasy baseball

      • BigSloppyMacDaddy says:
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        @Cram It: who exactly are you to tell someone that they shouldn’t play fantasy baseball?

    • BigSloppyMacDaddy says:
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      @gareth: yes, “experts”….we’re all experts now using the methods of Bill James and Ron Shandler to forecast players.

        • BigSloppyMacDaddy says:
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          @Sky: I refuse to click that link. I think you’re trying to put spyware on my computer…

          • Sky

            Sky says:
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            Nah just doing what we do around here: remind you of what you say vs what you do

              • J-FOH says:
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                @BigSloppyMacDaddy: what does another writer have to do with YOUR opinions?

              • Count de Monetball says:
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                @BigSloppyMacDaddy: MacDaddy/Bill and whatever names you change to tomorrow, I will just call you Troll

                If you want to scream from the rooftops about Grey and Rudy’s finish in the tout wars (15-team mixed) and LABR. Just say what you are thinking and be done with it. Those are two prestigious FBB leagues, and the creators of this website have earned the right to compete in these leagues, how about you, are you a writer for another website that has earned the right? Grey and Rudy have earned the reputation and credentials to be worthy of these top tiered fantasy leagues. IF they finished first or last in a top tier league, they are still in a top league and I am not. Thus their knowledge, credentials, and skill are well above those of the average blogger’s and mine. You put the top 15 people in the world at anything in a competition against each other, someone will finish first and someone 15th. That’s how competitions work. The team that finishes 15th could still be considered 15th in the WORLD for THAT SEASON ONLY. It is estimated that 32 million played fantasy sports in 2010 in Canada and the US combined. If Grey and Rudy were the 15th Best of 32 Million, I would still read this site every day and utilize the information here (as well as receive a large amount of entertainment value). In fantasy baseball, one season is a small sample size, but of course you know all about small sample size. Grey and Rudy are providing entertainment and a roadmap to success, which they have done for me personally. Further, they are providing this service and entertainment value for FREE to anybody.
                You’re Welcome!

                • BigSloppyMacDaddy says:
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                  @Count de Monetball: I didn’t read this. My attention span is too short.

                    • SwaggerJackers says:
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                      @Prez: Woohoo! Our very own RazzTroll! We made it guys!

                    • goodfold2 says:
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                      @Prez: he’s trying to bring those espn message boards over here.

  5. Wallpaper Paterson says:
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    I stated in the fall I would pass on fantasy baseball in 2014. I have not yet changed my mind. Rotisserie is boring. I was in three RCLs (I think) and half the people didn’t bother to do anything after July. Head-to-head can be ridiculous when you dominate the regular season and Carlos Torres becomes your ace come playoff time due to mass injuries and shut downs to your staff (this happened to me in my NL-only league). The fun factor went out the window for me in 2013. Any way to bring that back and get me excited for fantasy baseball this year or ever?

    • HWY68 says:
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      @Wallpaper Paterson:

      You hit burnout. Take a year off fantasy sports & report back next preseason.

      • kingforaday151 says:
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        @HWY68: Enough crazy talk HWY68… Change your format up, get in an auction league or a keeper league and put some $ at stake. Way too much goes in to an auction draft or keeper/dynasty league to quit in July.

        • Cram It says:
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          @Wallpaper Paterson: @kingforaday151: Seriously, get some friends, and put some money on it. Auction drafts, points leagues….I stopped doing public leagues for free along time ago.

          • Wallpaper Paterson says:
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            @Cram It: Thanks. I have done auction leagues in the past. I enjoyed them. We had a good keeper league going but one of the league members was a trash talking nut and there were some prudes in the league. The whole thing fell apart.
            A money league with an auction could get me back into action.

        • HWY68 says:
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          @kingforaday151:

          True. Cash might cure everything — even Wallpaper Paterson’s fantasy funk.

          The best leagues — roto, h2h, whatever — are always the money leagues.

          • kingforaday151 says:
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            @HWY68: Could even use wagers other than cash, but anything’s better than no fantasy baseball. Without it you wouldn’t need Razzball all summer, and if not for Grey’s daily blurb there’d be little reason to wake up at all!

    • costaricanchata says:
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      @Wallpaper Paterson:

      yeah .
      rcl ‘s are tough .
      all the cool kids rushing to sign-up
      and then , when they realize that you have to feed the puppy
      every day , they abandon it by the side of the road .
      but it’s not just espn .
      it’s all public/free leagues .
      it takes time , determination , and pride
      to play 162 games of fantasy baseball .
      otherwise , go play 15 days of football .
      you would hope that there would be some way to
      weed out the repeat offenders , but the policing efforts
      are too cumbersome , i suspect , especially for
      guys walking the “donation” tightrope .

      as for the “boring” part ,
      are you forgetting the late-night humor around here ?

    • mauledbypandas says:
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      @HWY68: @Wallpaper Paterson: Money usually does it for me. If they pay up and quit in July… well I will have fun reminding them how I spend their money.

    • J-FOH says:
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      @Wallpaper Paterson: we’ll try to get you into a good RCL this year. I’m going to try and organize some frequent commenter leagues so we can get some razzball regulars together and really have a good time this year. You have always been a solid commenter and don’t like seeing you all bummed out.

      • de nachos says:
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        @J-FOH: If you have room to include a solid lurker with the solid commenters in an RCL, holler. it’s not in my DNA to quit on fantasy leagues. It was my personal vision quest to defeat Sky in RCL last summer – I failed – and he had little idea that he was my white whale.

        • J-FOH says:
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          @de nachos: I’m working with jaywrong as we speak to set that up

          • Nick says:
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            @J-FOH: I’d be up for that! I only do one RCL per year, so might as well make it a good one!

            • Bombo Rivera says:
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              @Nick: I just missed catching Big Magoo in the Champions’ League last year, and I’d like to find an active RCL this year. Plus, I’d like to match wits with the Podcast King again.

  6. Rabbit says:
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    What type of league are the auction dollar values for? A 10 or 12-team ESPN head-to-head? Any way to alter them to fit different style leagues, esp. leagues with more owners?
    Thanks.

    • Grey

      Grey says:
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      @Rabbit: Rudy will have dollar values for different size leagues…

  7. ML says:
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    Keyshawn seems really low given your projections.

    • ML says:
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      @ML: kershaw*

      • Cram It says:
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        @ML: Please see every other post where someone asks why ‘so and so’ is ranked so high/low even though their projected stats would suggest otherwise.

        • ML says:
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          @Cram It: and where could I find that? Does said post explain how kershaws value the past 2(maybe 3 yrs) has been first round worthy? Or that he’s been more reliable than at least half a dozen of the guys ranked ahead of him? Or how the implied value from the projections is greater than most of those ranked ahead of him here?

          This is a ranking list. If you’re not expecting a debate than you can cram it. This isn’t similar to where grey mentions alcides/Martin. You got a guy who’s past and likely future warrants top 5 consideration, at an implied rank nearing the end of round 2. That in turn sets all other pitchers lower than the value they’re producing.

          So again, why?

          • Jeff in Southern Indiana says:
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            @ML: See the top 20 pitchers post and the top 100 overall post and the million comments about “pitching is deep”.

            Or maybe you’re trolling.

            • ML says:
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              @Jeff in Southern Indiana: the “pitching is deep” argument makes little sense when he pitcher is out earning his comp by more than 10 dollars(or sgps, however you want to represent it)

              • Cram It says:
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                @ML: Look, you wanted a reason why. The reason why is explained all over this website.

          • Cram It says:
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            @ML: Oh, I’m all for debating baby! Hitting wins fantasy leagues and around here especially, the mindset is don’t pay for pitching and if you use a top 5 pick for a starter, you’re silly. That said, Kershaw is still the #1 ranked Starter, so whether he’s ranked #1 overall, or 30th overall, he’s still properly relative to the other SP’s.

            I don’t see how you can say with confidence that his SP projections make him more valuable than half the guys ahead of him. Which 10 do you squeeze him in between? More valuable than 34/112/7/.272 but not more than 24/94/15/.280?

            • ML says:
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              @Cram It: you do understand those lines can be converted into a value that can be at least roughly compared to pitchers?

              Actually, you probably don’t

                • ML says:
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                  @Cram It: perhaps you need to revisit the logic behind that calculation. Haven’t seen a value that places him out of the first rd anywhere in the past 2 yrs. his current nfbc adp is 5. Lots of silly people playing for money I guess.

                  • Cram It says:
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                    @ML: Right, well go use ESPN rankings, take Kershaw with your 1st pick and lose your league. Grey’s rankings are not based on numbers alone.

                    • ML says:
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                      @Cram It: would love if you were in the league as well. Would make this even more fun, no?

                    • J-FOH says:
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                      @Cram It: “kick you in your ovaries”….classic Cram

                  • BigSloppyMacDaddy says:
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                    @ML: don’t bother explaining it to cram it. It’s not worth it….cheerleader, not scholar

                    • ML says:
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                      @BigSloppyMacDaddy: I really wasn’t trolling. It was a legitimate question given the variance. I mean the implied rd here is end of 2 And I just don’t get it.

                    • Cram It says:
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                      @BigSloppyMacDaddy: Hey the king of the trolls is back. We should meet up for a drink so I can kick you in your ovaries.

                    • Count de Monetball says:
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                      @BigSloppyMacDaddy: In case you didn’t see it above…
                      MacDaddy/Bill and whatever names you change to tomorrow, I will just call you Troll

                      If you want to scream from the rooftops about Grey and Rudy’s finish in the tout wars (15-team mixed) and LABR. Just say what you are thinking and be done with it. Those are two prestigious FBB leagues, and the creators of this website have earned the right to compete in these leagues, how about you, are you a writer for another website that has earned the right? Grey and Rudy have earned the reputation and credentials to be worthy of these top tiered fantasy leagues. IF they finished first or last in a top tier league, they are still in a top league and I am not. Thus their knowledge, credentials, and skill are well above those of the average blogger’s and mine. You put the top 15 people in the world at anything in a competition against each other, someone will finish first and someone 15th. That’s how competitions work. The team that finishes 15th could still be considered 15th in the WORLD for THAT SEASON ONLY. It is estimated that 32 million played fantasy sports in 2010 in Canada and the US combined. If Grey and Rudy were the 15th Best of 32 Million, I would still read this site every day and utilize the information here (as well as receive a large amount of entertainment value). In fantasy baseball, one season is a small sample size, but of course you know all about small sample size. Grey and Rudy are providing entertainment and a roadmap to success, which they have done for me personally. Further, they are providing this service and entertainment value for FREE to anybody.

                      You’re Welcome!

    • Ra'zball Al Ghul says:
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      @ML: Yeah but he dropped too many passes last season to trust him

    • mauledbypandas says:
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      @ML: The overall rankings are merely a roadmap. I drafted Kershaw in the second round overall last year and I won the RCL overall title. Go with your gut.

      • Cram It says:
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        @mauledbypandas: Was wondering, is there any money involved with that? I’ve never played an RCL….is there cash to be had?

        • mauledbypandas says:
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          @Cram It: Some leagues do a buy in, but those are usually the ones that have been together for a few years. There are plenty of standard RCL leagues that are completely and totally free. Sign ups are usually around this time of year, just keep an eye out. It will be a main Grey post of the day

          • Cram It says:
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            @mauledbypandas: I’m looking for money leagues. I’m in one big money league with friends that I’ve been in forever. I refuse to do free leagues, especially with strangers, so was curious if there was a solid group of RCLers that played for a little incentive.

            • goodfold2 says:
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              @Cram It: i’m guessing the money leagues use leaguesafe?

      • BigSloppyMacDaddy says:
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        @mauledbypandas: wait!?!?? You drafted kershaw and weren’t banned from the site indefinitely?!?!?!

              • costaricanchata says:
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                @Sky:

                this is the 6th time today , already , that you’ve posted this same comment .
                to quote you , quoting you , quoting you , etc .,
                i’ll give you the short version :
                “… Last time I checked, constant mocking and bringing up the same pointless point over and over isn’t respect. It’s just brainless and annoying. “

                • Sky

                  Sky says:
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                  Uh…ok? If you’re jabbing, Costa, strongly suggest you spend a bit more time looking at the source material. If not, the first sentence still applies…

                  • Robby D says:
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                    @Sky: It’s both sad and encouraging. Apparently the site has gotten so big it probably needs registration for commenting. You now have a steady stream of traffic and with that comes mindless criticism. Registration would allow for the filtering out of malcontents who offer nothing of substance and troll to disrupt and make it harder to provide the free services you offer. It would at least make it more work for them if they constantly have to create emails after they get banned for flaming.

                    • Sky

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                      On one hand I’d agree, but it’s like the TSA. It’s put in place with good intentions but it just screws it up for everyone who’s actually on here for a good reason, which I’d say is 98% of them. I’d rather not force Prez to not comment because his toothpaste isn’t in a tube that’s 3 oz or less…wait what an I saying, Prez doesn’t brush his teeth!

                    • Prez says:
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                      My dentures are worth more than your car!! *shakes fist, pokes cane*

                      See that sky? I used *than* correctly! Haha

                    • Sky

                      Sky says:
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                      Your a looser!

                    • Prez says:
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                      Skrew u skye!! Where threw!

                    • Sky

                      Sky says:
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                      Your such a trader, Perez!

                  • Aubrey Plaza's Pillow says:
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                    @BigSloppyMacDaddy: are you actually claiming to be Pouliot? If not is he your cousin or something?

        • Cram It says:
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          @BigSloppyMacDaddy: I’m sorry you’re so miserable with your life. Please don’t take any innocent people with you before you kill yourself

        • mauledbypandas says:
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          @BigSloppyMacDaddy: No, but someone in my building stole my RCL winner prize. Either that or Grey didn’t send it, but I am pretty sure he did. : Sad Emoticon:

      • J-FOH says:
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        @mauledbypandas: I like him in the second round too, and sometimes you need to zig when everyone else zags, but you are also a complete player who had other good draft picks and some good free agent adds. There is no one way to skin a bear, but having the skills of a complete player helps a lot. If this is confusing, I’m complimenting your awesomeness

        • mauledbypandas says:
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          @J-FOH: I hear you. That’s exactly what went through my head at the time actually. I didn’t like any hitters at the time I drafted Kershaw and figured I would zig. It worked out.. at least for one year :)

          • de nachos says:
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            @mauledbypandas: I tried the zig zag in RCL, too. Strasburg. Those results weren’t as pretty. Good on you for Kershaw.

      • Simply Fred

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        @mauledbypandas: Rudy has your draft ranked #2 overall (of 768 managers in RCL)…nice! Can’t get to your draft with ESPN down. Who was your first pick?

          • mauledbypandas says:
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            @mauledbypandas: I guess technically I got Kershaw in the 3rd :) and I have a huge bias for Rangers (thus the Kinsler/Yu picks)

            • mauledbypandas says:
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              @mauledbypandas: Looking back I made a lot of mistakes in the draft but got lucky with a few nice waiver grabs

              • J-FOH says:
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                @mauledbypandas: we all did, I dropped marte and Carpenter before the season started chasing SAGNOF and still had the #9 RCL team

                • mauledbypandas says:
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                  @J-FOH: I made the Marte mistake in another league so I feel that pain. Congrats on top ten, it feels good to do really well in the RCL but I realize there is quite a bit of good fortune going on as well. I mean I was 20-something one year and in the 100’s a year before that. The RCL players are usually pretty good competition, part of the reason I keep playing in them!

                  • J-FOH says:
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                    @mauledbypandas: I’m trying to organize some frequent commenter leagues. will keepyou posted, i know I have your e-mail so I got your invite. We need to have one with the now defunct roundtable crew. The possibilities….oh the possibilities

          • Simply Fred

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            @mauledbypandas: wow! kinda blew away the don’t draft SP early theory. still, drafting Miggy #1 helped keep your hitting competitive. well-played!

            • mauledbypandas says:
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              @simply fred: Yeah I have to bow to the luck god on that one. I went into the draft knowing I would have Darvish at all costs and Miggy. Kershaw was just a value pick. It was a fun year and I definitely enjoyed it. I just hope I can make the top 100 this year!

              • J-FOH says:
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                @mauledbypandas: @mauledbypandas: I idiotically blew off Darvish last year, but I owned Mad max all over the place….and J. Zimm and AJ Burnett. I hate J. Zimm

  8. Bodacious Taters says:
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    Not to question you Oh Great One (Jackie Gleason has nuthin’ on you) – but where is Garrett Jones. Does he have any value batting cleanup for Miami ??

    • J-FOH says:
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      @Bodacious Taters: as a platoon player only vs. Righties and now that he is in Miami, on the road vs, righties

  9. Rabbit says:
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    Oh and one other thing, Herr Grey: I know you update your stat predictions as the preseason ambles on; but where do you put the updated stats? On this page or on the individual positional ranking pages?

  10. Matt says:
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    Grey – I’ll comment here since its a newer post and you might respond. Matt Carpenter – I see your reasons for lowering his ranking, however how much would that be offset by a league that counts extra base hits, where he was a monster last year. Do you expect huge regression there too along with his runs?

    • Grey

      Grey says:
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      @Matt: I don’t see that huge of a regression for that league… Knock him up about 30 spots…

      • Matt says:
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        @Grey: Thats about what I was thinking, thanks!

  11. fitz says:
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    The reason Kershaw / Mauer are so low is because Grey thinks it would be wise to pass on those guys.

  12. Jim says:
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    I will never ever tell anyone from my leagues about this site.

    • BigSloppyMacDaddy says:
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      @Jim: well if you do, you could end up with kershaw in the 9th round while everyone falls all over their keyboards to draft J.Gyorko

          • Grey

            Grey says:
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            Would you prefer we won all our leagues and gave you lousy advice?

            • Nick says:
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              @Grey: Technically he’d probably prefer you won all your leagues and gave great advice :) Wait, why I am helping this idiot? Keep doing what you are doing. I read this site multiple times per day. It rules.

              • Grey

                Grey says:
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                Thanks!

            • BigSloppyMacDaddy says:
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              @Grey: as I’ve said grey, I respect the information, but I will not hesitate to say what I think, or point out what I disagree with…no matter how tactless “sky” thinks my approach is. It’s the Internet. I’m not worried about feelings. Most of it is directed at your readers, who reAlly resemble a cult-like following. In fact, after I post this they’ll all pounce on me, as if trying to earn brownie points from the almighty himself. But if I truly thought the site wasn’t worth it, I wouldn’t check in. But I still do…ever since the days of giving you a hard time as Mr Lance Berkman. Sooner or later though, you’ll have to show up at Tout Wars or LABR. To me, that’s where all the projections and strategies show their true worth.

              • Grey

                Grey says:
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                Gotcha

                • Montezuma's Revenge... right now says:
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                  @Grey: @BigSloppyMacDaddy: how many more years of Grey/Rudy failures would you need exactly to get to a big enough sample size to quit? We might be able to help calendar sales, is all i’m saying.

    • 2 Giant rings says:
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      @Jim: I think Razzball has just about reached critical mass. Everyone in your league already knows about it.

  13. Jeff says:
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    I’m in an AL-Only league where rosters reset every five years. This year is the reset year, so whoever we draft this year we can keep for five seasons. No salaries. In that format, where would you take Xander Bogaerts?

    • Grey

      Grey says:
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      @Jeff: Around that of Everth

  14. dude says:
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    No Middlebrooks?

    • Fungazi says:
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      @dude: 121.5

    • Grey

      Grey says:
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      @dude: Must’ve accidentally deleted him, will fix

  15. Wake Up says:
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    I have to say…out of all your rankings…what sticks out the most…would probably be Madams mipples!

    • Cram It says:
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      @Wake Up: For me, it’s that Tyson Ross is not even worth -2 dollars! A travesty.

    • Sky

      Sky says:
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      @Wake Up: @Cram It: You both just wait for my Tyson Ross sleeper. Gonna bump that man’s value up to at least -1 dollars…at least!

      • Cram It says:
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        @Sky: Can’t wait! You better bring some revolutionary new sabermetrics to the table…

        • Sky

          Sky says:
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          Haha, I’m just pointing out what we all saw: a changed pitcher. I’d love to say I’m going to revolutionize the world but…I don’t project so it’s not possible!

          • Cram It says:
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            @Sky: Ha. I’m the same way when ranking my players. I don’t project numbers. I say to myself this guy will be better than that guy, so he’s my pick.

            • Sky

              Sky says:
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              Exactly, and about value. I remember when everyone went wild for Daniel Hudson back in 2011. I said that I liked him but felt I could get similar enough stats and better value from Ian Kennedy later. And yup. I just focus on underlying stats (K/9, K:BB, K%, etc) and go from there. Most guys have ranges for their stats. I just focus on that, projections wise.

  16. Wake Up says:
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    @JoeC – Ha!

  17. kingforaday151 says:
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    Just traded for Hosmer in my weekly head to head 10 keeper league. I want to keep Alex Gordon as well as my third outfielder (McCutchen and Bruce are 1 and 2). Most every lineup projection has Hosmer batting 3rd with Gordon either at 2nd or 5th in the order. What’s your strategy on having two players who potentially hit back to back in the order? Should any attention be paid to this? Am I cutting my percentages of counting stats or it that nonsense?

    PS – I also have McCutchen/Alvarez back to back but I have no choice there with the 3rd base landscape of the league.

    • Wake Up says:
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      @kingforaday151:
      I would expect Hosmer/Butler/Gordon…3,4,5

      it doesn’t make any difference if players on your FBB bat b2b…

    • Wake Up says:
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      @kingforaday151: To expand a little…you want a good OBP guy batting in front of your guy and a good RBI guy batting behind your guy…so if that is the case and you own both then that’s great…

      • kingforaday151 says:
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        @Wake Up: Thanks for the feedback Wake Up.

    • BigSloppyMacDaddy says:
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      @kingforaday151: total nonsense

  18. Ra'zball Al Ghul says:
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    No Tracy McGrady?

  19. costaricanchata says:
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    @ Grey :

    i like this new format .
    very cohesive .

  20. Shake N Bacon says:
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    First year for me joining an RCL fantasy baseball league. Looking forward to it!

    Quick keeper question for anyone willing to answer: I get to keep six players every year. This year my 6th keeper is down to Rizzo or Alex Rios.

    I already have two OF keepers and 1B isn’t all that appetizing after the first few big bats. All of the big guns are being kept so if I don’t keep Rizzo, Jose Abreu is probably my next best choice. Rios is obviously ranked higher, but with OF being a little deeper than 1B, is it worth taking a chance on Rizzo as my 6th keeper?

    • J-FOH says:
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      @Shake N Bacon: I thought you played RCL last year?

      • Shake N Bacon says:
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        @J-FOH: Nah, my first RCL experience was this past NFL season for fantasy football. I started following Razzball for the first time at the beginning of last baseball season. Didn’t know much at the RCL until it was too late and didn’t get to join any leagues.

        I typically only play in one league (long time keeper league) but would like to see how I would do against some razzballers who follow the same sage advice from the writers on here.

      • Shake N Bacon says:
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        @Grey: Word. I was hoping you’d say that!

  21. Jarrod says:
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    This looks great. Can’t wait for an OBP version. My league is OBP/R/RBI/HR/SLG/RBI

  22. Cory says:
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    Why only 350 ABs projected for Billy Hamilton? Do you think he’ll struggle at the plate so badly he’ll become a part-time player?

    Muchas Greycias for the fine work (as always).

    • Grey

      Grey says:
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      @Cory: Yup, likely… De nada…

      • Cory says:
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        @Grey: You’ve projected Hamilton for 67 steals in only 350 at bats. So if he somehow manages to hit leadoff all year & gets 580 at bats … WOWZA! What would be your projected SB total then?

  23. MadDog31 says:
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    I’m in a 12 team H2H points league where you get 3 keepers from the previous season for any player drafted past the 8th round. Currently I have Puig (17th rd) & Jose Fernandez (20th rd) for my last keeper its between Yadier Molina (10th rd) or Sonny Gray (19th rd). Opinion?

    • ThE sHiT says:
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      @MadDog31: Gray

  24. You can now access these projections via the main menu (Stats/Grey’s Pre-Season Projections) and bookmark this page: https://razzball.com/projections-grey/

    It is the same table as in this post and they’ll both be kept up to date based on injury / playing time changes.

    • Count de Monetball says:
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      @Rudy Gamble: Thanks Rudy, when you make significant changes, will you point it out clearly, Thanks…

      • Grey will likely allude to changes in his posts.

  25. Jeff in Southern Indiana says:
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    I feel robbed of 300 pithy comments. Of course that would have taken 20 hours to write.

    Could you discuss a little of your overall strategy in drafting late? Such as runs on closers and who you’re targeting for the bullpen this year and where, etc.

    Your strategy seems to load up on power as it is scarce, where do you plan to get your speed from – any late targets?

    Or is there a generic draft strategy post from years ago somewhere saying SAGNOF SAGNOF, etc.?

    • BigSloppyMacDaddy says:
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      @Jeff in Southern Indiana: yes there is a very generic draft strategy and here’s the gist:

      1) power is supreme
      2) CI and OF are of the upmost importance
      3) MI and CA mean nothing
      4) stolen bases should be acquired with crappy one-dimensional “SAGNOF” players
      5) wait on closers
      6) wait on pitching
      7) take high K/9 guys, except with Zimmerman and Fister for no apparent reason

      Basically draft HRs & Ks and you’ll fit in fine.

      • Shake N Bacon says:
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        @BigSloppyMacDaddy: Don’t you have anything better to do, other than being a dick for no real reason? If you don’t like this site…then don’t visit it.

        Having a debate is one thing. Everyone respects a good debate. But constantly attacking the site, the writers and the commentators is juvenile.

        So “back that azz up” on outta here.

        • Shake N Bacon says:
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          Damn it.

          I bit and fed the troll. 10 lashings for me.

          • Robby D says:
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            @Shake N Bacon: It’s understandable. It’s hard when you see someone lying through their teeth or making assinine statements like Kershaw in the 9th round would happen in an RCL league.

            As for Kershaw, if you were lucky enough to get him in the first or second round, he played above his average ADP. You know who else in the top 10 played at or above their average ADP? 0.

            So you have one moron screaming Kershaw from the rooftops, who probably would have been shouting Verlander from the rooftops last year.

            Do you know how many top 10 ADP pitchers finished outside the top 100 in overall player value last year? 6. These are all guys whose ADP had them in the top 5 rounds, and more than half of them returned value as if they were at best 8th round picks.

            By all means, take Kershaw’s career year which still had him as 5th or 6th most valuable player last year, and project him to the 3rd overall pick like a couple guys in Yahoo did. I’m sure he’ll shave another quarter point off that 1.83 ERA, and add 10-25 more K’s.
            I’m sure his career low BABIP will be either repeated or exceeded even though it was 20 points lower than his career average and career best. If it goes back to his normal BABIP, he would be looking at an ERA over 2. Same with if he regresses in any of the categories where he put up career bests (HR/FB%, BB/9, IP)

            I’m sure he’s going to be just as good, and just as lucky and improve. Most likely he will return a value like the average of his past three years, and fall back to being a great late 2nd round pickup that will be drafted 3rd or 4th in a lot of leagues. I’m sure his numbers will be just as good as the year he was playing for a contract…

            None of it matters Shake. None of that evidence matters. Kershaw is a stud and if you don’t agree, apparently you would wait until the 9th round to get Kershaw. Doesn’t matter that if you draft Kershaw in the beginning of the first round, you will be lucky if you only lose single digit picks value on him.

            It also doesn’t matter that Razzball was the only fantasy ‘pert ranking Goldschmidt in the top 20 last year and I couldn’t find a place ranking him higher than 40 going into last year, and even with that Grey said he has the potential to be top 10. Doesn’t matter that of his top ten he was highest on McCutcheon to beat his projections and deliver an MVP type year. It doesn’t matter that he was right on Chris Davis or the other 9 out of the 10 top ADP pitchers last year that you should have punted on, because pitching was deep last year and the top 10 at the end of the year was overrepresented by guys that were drafted notably later by their ADPs. None of that matters.

            The only thing that matters is Ruttledge, Kershaw’s one year beating his ADP, and the finish in one expert fantasy league. That’s it. No actual evidence is needed, nor will it be provided.

            Bill James Bitches!!!

            (Drops Mic)

        • BigSloppyMacDaddy says:
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          @Shake N Bacon: I have nothing better to do. When my mom unlocks the door I’ll get off the computer. Until then, I’m here. Hi.

        • Aubrey Plaza's Pillow says:
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          @Shake N Bacon: shake and bacon, troll did above spell out a methodology wherein he would quit, if Grey/Rudy kept on failing at Tout Wars and LABR. However, he didn’t spell out how many years that would take.

  26. Johan Barleycorn says:
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    Grey, word has it at Fox Sports KC Alex Gordon is batting fifth in the lineup. Aoki, infante, Hosmer, Moobs, then Gordon. Would this have much effect on his ranking in the OF hierarchy/projections?

    • Grey

      Grey says:
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      @Johan Barleycorn: Lineups change daily in-season, I don’t think he’ll be batting fifth every day this coming year…

  27. Joel says:
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    Thanks for your help as always. I’ve got next pick in a league. I just picked Heyward I have Puig Jones heyward marte for my 3 OF spots in H2h points. We play 2 DH. I have 4 arms Jose F, Sale, Gio, Madbum while we play 6 per week.

    I need a 3b SS to fill. I also have 3 picks in next round.
    Do I let a seager, Castro, Sandoval,andrus guarantee pass this pick for Gordon, werth, machado, Dom brown, or Jennings?
    Really struggling with snagging best available or filling a position

    • Grey

      Grey says:
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      @Joel: Not sure what you’re asking

      • Joel says:
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        @Grey: @Grey:
        I have next pick in a draft. 3rd/SS are my empty postions. Seager Sandoval Castro Avilable. I have. Heyward puig a jones Marte for

        Is it dumb to snag Gordon , Rizzo, Jennings, Dom brown, or werth before filling 3b/ss?

        Or do those 3 seem like a better option and of those 3 how would you rank?

        • Grey

          Grey says:
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          Don’t take a OF, then go by my ranks…

  28. Mike

    Mike says:
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    Not just saying this because I post here…the thought, time, and effort that goes into these rankings is really appreciated. Thanks!

    • mauledbypandas says:
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      @Mike: suck up! All kidding aside. Love all of you who contribute to the site. Hmm might be time to refill that Daiquiri glass

    • Grey

      Grey says:
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      @Mike: No problem

  29. Paul says:
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    Hi Grey, thanks for what you have done.

    Just curious how do you think of Profar?

    Everyday job is ready for him now but few evaluate him to breakout a lot this year.
    But he was the top 1 prospect!!

    Thanks.

    • mauledbypandas says:
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      @Paul: 14. Jurickson Profar – Imagine Jurickson Profar and Jedd Gyorko went to Hawaii to get married and they decided to flip a coin for who got to name the baby. Heads it was, but Gyorko called tails so he got to keep his last name, and Jurickson was heads so he got to name the kid, leaving them with Jurickson Gyorko, and when the kid turned 12 he changed his name to Tommy so kids would stop teasing him with Jerkson Jerko. That’s an imagine scenario that even John Lennon couldn’t have dreamt up. Ron Washington seems content with Profar at the bottom of the order. For now. After a few lines of the devil’s dandruff that could all change. So…gimme! Now, I will write a rap song that struggles to rhyme in honor of Jurickson Profar and Brad Miller. I call this rap song, “My Rhymes Are On…That Thing You Read Off Your Watch (Time).”
      I like Miller and Profar a lot, cuz. Like a lot a lot. Two a lot’s.
      I got more a lot’s than you got uh-nothings’s.
      Something, something something. That’s three something’s.
      Your girlfriend told me you’re lackluster.
      Then I switched the U’s for A’s and the F’s for L’s on your girl’s keyboard and she told me to lack luster.
      But she kept going, “Lack luster, hurder! I lackin’ fove you so lackin’ mach.”
      I yelled, “Oh, yeah,” like the Kool-Aid Man. He’s punch with a paunch. 2014 Projections: 77/10/59/.272/15

      And that’s me quoting Grey… without actual quotation marks

      • Paul says:
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        @mauledbypandas: thanks for ur quoting.
        Maybe am too new here so not sure what he meant. Haha.

        Anyway, based on ranks, Gyorko > Miller or Profar

  30. Cory says:
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    Corey Hart is a 1b (no OF eligibility) in Yahoo.

    • The Thumb says:
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      @Cory: I don’t think that really changes much. Unless you’re in a deep 5 OF leagues you should already have 3 OFs before you get to him.

    • Grey

      Grey says:
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      @Cory: We’ll see where he is in ESPN then adjust…

    • Curt says:
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      @Cory: 1B only in cbs also.

  31. Empire State says:
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    Fantasy noob inheriting a dynasty team in a 10-team h2h. I can keep up to 5 guys indefinitely. Here is my list:

    Adam Jones
    Chris Davis
    Manny Machado
    Jean Segura
    Edwin Encarnacion

    If I keep fewer than five I get extra picks before the first round. I’m debating whether I should drop Machado to get an extra early pick, then try to pick him back upon the third or fourth round. Losing Machado is a risk, but is it one worth taking to try a score a top 50 guy?

  32. Count de Monetball says:
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    Grey, thanks, and I agree with Costaricanchata that the sortable format is awesome (and nice that its the same as hitter tron, SON, etc.) I am curious, as spring training goes along, injuries happen, or anything else happens that alters your rankings substantially, are you more likely to just let us know about it in a daily blurb, or will you update the rankings, i.e. rookie surprisingly locks down a starting position (ex. Carlos Martinez) or a quality middle reliever locks down a closer position, or a major league ready bat makes the opening day lineup, etc.

    • Grey

      Grey says:
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      @Count de Monetball: I’ll try to make a point of telling everyone once spring training rolls around…

  33. Eddy says:
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    Excellent work, Grey. I can finally start mocking now that we have all the tools.

    **HIJACKING THREAD**

    Razzball commenters, I have 8 spots for a Yahoo, 12-team roto auction league (OBP instead of AVG). 1350 IP max. It’s only a $20 buy in and I use the always-trusted leaguesafe to harbor the money. If you’re interested, shoot me an email [email protected].

    • BigSloppyMacDaddy says:
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      @Eddy: I’ll have the best staff ever

      • Eddy says:
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        @BigSloppyMacDaddy:

        then come on down!

        Now six spots left.

      • Dave in Norcal says:
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        @BigSloppyMacDaddy:

        And I’ll laugh when two of your high drafted pitchers go down to Tommy John, while I just picked up this year’s JoFer and Harvey in the 22nd round or off the waiver wire. Cole, Gray and Salazar were available in many leagues last year into September. Not mine – I rode them (and my early drafted power) to victory.

        • BigSloppyMacDaddy says:
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          @Dave in Norcal: yeah hindsight is wonderful. Nice job.

          • Dave in Norcal says:
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            @BigSloppyMacDaddy:

            Here’s the thing, troll (and I’ll follow advice below to ignore you from here out), the key message of this site is that you don’t need all that much “hindsight” to see which pitchers might give you strong performance, and, unlike power hitters, many of them go undrafted. They are just sitting on the wire or are there late in the draft. There is far more “replacement” pitching that gives big value than hitting. Moreover, the act of pitching offers greater chance of injury (especially season ending injury) than hitting, fielding or running. Kershaw has and very well may give first round value again. But, on average, pitchers are more likely to have something go awry and they’re easier to replace with a decent replacement than a big power hitter. Grey’s rankings reflect the above opinions* and are designed to steer you to a greater overall chance of success. If you disagree fine, and periodically, it will work out for you, but to disagree like an ass looks like it’s only going to get you the silent treatment from here out.

            *facts.

            • BigSloppyMacDaddy says:
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              @Dave in Norcal: you mean you won’t talk to me anymore?! Ohhhh no

            • BigSloppyMacDaddy says:
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              @Dave in Norcal: wait before you silence me, can you explain to me one more time the concept of pitcher volatility?

              • goodfold2 says:
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                @BigSloppyMacDaddy:there is one funny thing i’m noticing about just what assbags bring out in others having to deal with them. He’s now gotten like 5 really long response posts concerning his behavior (seemingly trying to “fix” him). Is this the same syndrome that seems to stem from so many women who “go after the assholes” rather than nice guys (or whatever the condition is called). Is this also prevalent in males as well (assuming pretty much everybody here, at least 97%, are male) in a different form?

        • Aubrey Plaza's Pillow says:
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          @Dave in Norcal: how many teams and how big are roster’s in that league mentioned? hard to believe (unless shallow league) that cole wasn’t owned before Sept.

    • Rabbit says:
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      @Eddy: Daily transactions or weekly?

      • Eddy says:
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        @Rabbit:

        Sorry, never saw this message. Daily transactions.

      • goodfold2 says:
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        @Grey: love the PPP.

  34. Ryan says:
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    I am in a 20 team h2h dynasty league. I am trying to see where I can look to improve via trade. Is there any particular area I should look to fix?

    c evan gattis
    1b miguel cabrera
    2b brandon phillips
    ss jurickson profar
    3b evan longoria
    lf justin upton
    cf desmond jennings
    rf shane victorino
    util prince fielder
    bn michael cuddyer
    bn neil walker
    bn carl crawford

    sp clayton kershaw
    sp yu darvish
    sp cliff lee
    sp zach wheeler
    p dan straily
    p tanner roark
    p charlie morton
    rp jose veras
    rp sean doolittle
    bn mat belisle
    bn garret richards

    • Grey

      Grey says:
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      @Ryan: Pretty great team for 20 team league…. Your bullpen’s a bit of a mess, that’s about it

      • Ryan says:
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        @Grey: so would u suggest I deal 1 or 2 of my bats for rp help? If so which bats should I move?

        • Grey

          Grey says:
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          Nope, I’d hold what you have for now… RPs will come into the league…

  35. Jon says:
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    Bravo, Grey, bravo. That is all.

    • Grey

      Grey says:
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      @Jon: No problem

  36. Count de Monetball says:
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    Just a thought writers and frequent commenters, (specifically Sky and Cram), I think we should just completely ignore the troll (when we find out what its name of the day is). While it it is sometimes fun to have some banter, quite frankly the moron is getting on my nerves seeing his dribble as I read through the comments, while looking to see if there are some good nuggets in there…. Just my opinion, but I love this site and want to ensure it maintains its full enjoyment factor (ex baseball analysis and humor).

    • Sky

      Sky says:
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      I only wanted to give him a shot at living up to his ‘I respect the site’ statement. Sadly he’s proven that’s really all he is: a troll

    • Cram It says:
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      @Count de Monetball: I was thinking the same thing, but I let the personal attack get to me. I shall refrain.

    • Sky

      Sky says:
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      I’m just going to link to his statement of ‘respect’ from now on. It’s Two-fold. It states that he’s a troll AND it shows he doesn’t have the spine to troll under the same name.

      • BigSloppyMacDaddy says:
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        @Sky: yeah it’s all about “spine” here on the Internet

          • BigSloppyMacDaddy says:
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            @Sky: I’m going to miss you

          • SwaggerJackers says:
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            @Sky: @Prez: “Swim away, jellyfish.”

            I don’t know if that’s a line from something but it’s funny. You’re my boy Sky!

            • Sky

              Sky says:
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              @SwaggerJackers: I googled, looks like its mine. Copyrighting now…hold off using it until I get royalties!

    • Kid A says:
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      @Count de Monetball:

      Little known historical fact: Disgruntled fantasy baseballer, Gavrilo Princip lobbed a grenade into Francy Ferdinand’s carriage because that crazy Archduke ranked Shoeless Joe over up-and-coming prospect, George Herman Ruth. Millions died.

      Fantasy baseball: sparking international powder kegs since 1914.

      It is always easier to ignore if you just ignore.

      • Sky

        Sky says:
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        @Kid A: Even littler known fact: This historical setting is actually the inspiration for Bruno Mars:

        • Kid A says:
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          @Sky: Amazing what a boner that guy(?) gives prezzii…

          • Sky

            Sky says:
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            That would be the even littler, littler known fact of this whole thing…

            • J-FOH says:
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              @Sky: hahahaha

            • Kid A says:
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              @Sky: This makes me laugh alot.

          • Prez says:
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            @Kid A: hey! You keep my boner outta your mouth!

      • J-FOH says:
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        @Kid A: bravo my historically minded stalker

        • Kid A says:
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          @J-FOH: Didn’t your court appointed attorney explain “stalker” to you when you were trying to beat those charges that stemmed from you spending too much time outside the local YMCA in a trench coat?

          • J-FOH says:
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            @Kid A: I’ve upgraded to a van and it’s outside everywhere Yasiel Puig goes. That dude is hard to keep up with when your pants are around your ankles.

      • Wake Up says:
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        @Kid A: Where were you yesterday dammit! I could have used this reminder!

        • Kid A says:
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          @Wake Up: I can only help those that want to be helped, you savant.

          • Wake Up says:
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            @Kid A: “Never wrestle with pigs. You both get dirty and the pig likes it.” GBS

  37. Jonas says:
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    Doesn’t Tyler Thornburg have more UPSIDE based on his performance finishing last season? Is he going to be out of the bullpen?

    • Grey

      Grey says:
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      @Jonas: I don’t buy Garza being healthy, which would slide him in… I’ll drop Thornburg’s projections and rank if Garza leaves spring with his health…

      • Jonas says:
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        @Grey: cool, thanks. I owe you a beverage for sure, Grey.

        • Grey

          Grey says:
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          No problem

    • Jonas says:
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      @Jonas: Bullpen.

  38. mauledbypandas says:
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    Now we just need ESPN to end their maintenance so we can see their rankings and set up leagues!

      • mauledbypandas says:
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        @Grey: hey, they are up now!

  39. B&W says:
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    Mods please make sure this is okay, don’t want to step on any toes.

    So I’ve gotten this all down in spreadsheet form. If anyone would like a copy I’ve gotten them broken down with positions, along with a synopsis for each player based off of Grey’s blurbs, separated into his tiers and highlighted the sleepers if anyone is interested.

    Please post an email address if you’d like a copy.

    • Grey

      Grey says:
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      @B&W: You’re taking food from my mouth

      • B&W says:
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        @Grey:
        Didn’t even consider the clicks aspect. Just put some more drank in your cup for all your hard work.

        • Grey

          Grey says:
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          Thanks!

  40. Jon says:
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    In a keep forever league, Masterson or Porcello?

    • The Thumb says:
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      @Jon: Masterson

    • Grey

      Grey says:
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      @Jon: Toss up, I’d go Porcello

  41. Spammer Jay says:
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    I’m updating the excel war room. Any special requests for added functionality or info?

    • Count de Monetball says:
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      @Spammer Jay: Thanks Jay, we very much appreciate it!

    • Teddy Heater says:
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      @Spammer Jay: War room coming to you new and improved!! Thanks guys & looking forward to Mother of all Cheat Sheets!

  42. RandomItalicizedVoice says:
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    Wow the comment section has well and truly gone to hell. Too much trolling and too much feeding of said trolls. Sad.

    • Kid A says:
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      @RandomItalicizedVoice:

      Razzball is a fine place and worth the fighting for, and I hate very much to leave it.

      • RandomItalicizedVoice says:
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        @Kid A:

        I agree, but the comment section is starting look like comment sections on ESPN or CBS. Obviously it’s not all the way there yet, but that’s the direction it’s heading.

        The whole thing, for me, is that Grey et al have answered certain questions ad infinitum on this website. As we all know, there is a FBB philosophy here that most of us accept, more or less. Why do questions like “Why is Kershaw ranked so low?” even deserve a response? The answer is embedded in nearly every post that is made on this website!

        IMO, if a given person doesn’t agree with the general FBB philosophy here, they will move on, probably pretty quickly, especially if their trollish attempts at goading or instigating are given the attention they deserve…which is none. No amount of argument, no matter how logical, is going to convince them. The evidence has been laid out for years on this website. If a person is truly open to changing their minds, they will find these answers quite easily throughout the site, and will weigh that evidence fairly against their pre-established ideas, and THEN perhaps come to ask legitimate questions in the comments or forums.

          • Bombo Rivera says:
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            @Big Magoo: Agreed. Nice to see you again, RIV and Magoo.

            • Big Magoo

              Big Magoo says:
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              @Bombo Rivera: You too, Bombo. Maybe we can do another RCL this season. It was a hell of a ride last year.

        • costaricanchata says:
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          @RandomItalicizedVoice:

          ” I agree, but the comment section is starting look like comment sections on ESPN ..”

          exactly !

          (and , oh yeah … yo momma .)

        • BigSloppyMacDaddy says:
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          @RandomItalicizedVoice: “the evidence has been laid out for years on this site”? Oh yeah. Please demonstrate. Do you have the final standing to all razz ball expert league finishes? Because outside of that, there is no “evidence”

          It’s readers like you that I have the biggest issue with. You’re entire tone reeks of pretentious ‘we are the wiser’ obnoxiousness, with nothing to actually back it up. Saying something is so doesn’t make it so.

    • Big Al says:
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      @RandomItalicizedVoice: Yeah the only way to get rid of a troll virus is not to feed it like you said. If nobody feeds the trolls they starve and get no attention, because that’s what it wants. Leave the sad little troll alone and he’ll go back to his hole.

  43. The Thumb says:
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    The hate runs strong with this thread…

  44. Simply Fred

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    Grey: having fun looking at your yahoo mock. looks like your players fell to you, on-average, 2 rounds after your projections. must have been fun!

    That said. Of course that wouldn’t happen in the ECFBL.

    Guys/Gals, yes, we are actively recruiting Grey/Rudy to the league. who of you wouldn’t?

    Really, think there should be some sort of contest on Razz to get in an RCL with Grey/Rudy. Any ideas?

    (All, pleeeaaaase, references to ECFBL being a great league are not intended to brag. They are meant to encourge others to be active…stream pitchers and hitters…be in the game 24-7…I love you!)

    • Grey

      Grey says:
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      @simply fred: Yeah, that’s a good idea… I’m all ears to how to get us in your league… Honestly, as of right now, we haven’t decided which leagues we’ll be in yet…

      • J-FOH says:
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        @Grey: write a 500 word essay on why you deserve to play with Rudy and Grey, kinda like a make-a-wish thing

        • Grey

          Grey says:
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          Hehe

          • J-FOH says:
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            @Grey: draw a new razzball logo, using Crayons only, that will be used for the day. The top 10 entries get to play with you and Rudy. The pictures will be judged on originality, cleanliness, and relativity to the site

            • Grey

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              I like that, but wouldn’t really give us people who were good at fantasy, just good at drawing…

              • J-FOH says:
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                @Grey: a razzball test? A virtual Royal rumble? a lottery? a bidding war? pay to play with Rudy and Grey?

                • Grey

                  Grey says:
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                  Yeah, not sure… Need to think on it… No paying though…

                  • J-FOH says:
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                    @Grey: not even in daquiris or vape juice?

                    • Grey

                      Grey says:
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                      Ha, nope

                  • J-FOH says:
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                    @Grey: got it, a frequent commenter draft. You and Rudy each select 5 frequent commenters. Feelings will be hurt but for those that don’t make it, comment more and make the cut next year. If you can’t come up with 5 each include some writers in there too. Something along those lines. it’s a lot easier than selling candy bars with golden tickets in them.

                    • Grey

                      Grey says:
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                      Haha… Wait, I like the golden ticket idea!

                    • Sky

                      Sky says:
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                      I’m picturing you dressed as Willy Wonka a la the Tim Burton remake now. It’s frightening…but accurate with the original story!

                    • Grey

                      Grey says:
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                      I’m more of a Gene Wilder Wonka…

                    • Sky

                      Sky says:
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                      I’m still scared

                    • Prez says:
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                      Ill kick out 100 fart jokes a day if im not on the list!

                      Madams has pancake mips! Thats a start..

                    • Bombo Rivera says:
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                      @J-FOH: You want people to comment more?

                  • J-FOH says:
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                    @Grey: of course you do, it’s reason to get a new top hat

  45. booya says:
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    With the keepers I already have listed below would you want option 1)Mark Trumbo & Ubaldo, option 2)Matt Carpenter & Ubaldo, or option 3)Matt Holliday? Its a H2H 6×6 league that uses OPS and K/9…

    Votto
    Segura
    Cargo
    Bruce
    Marte

    Wainwright
    Shelby Miller
    Cingrani

    Thanks

  46. Clint says:
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    2nd round for Kershaw, eh? Wow. Didn’t think I should look at pitchers until 3-5th rounds easy but you guys are the smaat ones.

  47. brian says:
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    I dont remember today being my birthday or christmas but I appreciate the gift

    • Grey

      Grey says:
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      No problem

  48. Wake Up says:
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    Funny thing is…from what I remember of Tout…the guy who won was strong in…HRs and Ks…

    • Sky

      Sky says:
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      Your memory has to be wrong…no wait, Bill James said to do that…no wait, I’m so confused! Mother? *puts on lipstick*

      • Wake Up says:
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        @Sky: Don’t worry you look beautiful just the way you are…

        I’d like to invite you to go fishing…but I’m scared that you’ll eat all the worms…

        • Sky

          Sky says:
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          Like my zombie father used to say, you have to eat them before they eat you.

          • Wake Up says:
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            @Sky: Like my great great grandpappy used to say…sure zombies are delicious…but, if you eat’em all up…they’ll be none left for my great great grandson to eat…

            • Sky

              Sky says:
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              For some reason thinking about zombies and great great grandpappies makes me think of House 2. Please tell me you’ve seen that. Puppypillar? Hello? Anyone?

              • Wake Up says:
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                @Sky: No…If you’re talking about the Puppy Bowl…I taped it on VHS…but haven’t watched it yet…so be careful for spoilers…

                • Sky

                  Sky says:
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                  Lets just say the Toy Fox Terrier coach – Jim Harbowwow – craps himself on the sidelines.

                  • Wake Up says:
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                    @Sky: Ha! You talking about the one where Bilal comes over in his PJs this time?

                    • Sky

                      Sky says:
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                      I assume Bilal is always in PJs. He plays like he’s asleep! *Lame joke of the day…covered*

              • Big Magoo

                Big Magoo says:
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                @Sky: Never saw the sequel. Is it good bad or bad bad? Is it worth checking out just for the great title?

                • Sky

                  Sky says:
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                  Good bad. House II: The Second Story…that tells you all you need to know about it. Very ‘WTF, who thought of this’ stuff. And it has a Puppypillar! Seriously, I want a Puppypillar.

                  • Big Magoo

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                    @Sky: I meant the tagline of “It’s getting weirder!” on the bottom of the cover. That better not be false advertising! Though, a Puppypillar? Sounds like legitimate weirdness…

                    • Sky

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                      Haha, oh believe me, it gets weirder than Carrot Top with muscles and plastic surgery up in dis. I watched it as a kid so there’s probably some nostalgia associated but it was very imaginative. Definitely not a horror by any stretch of the imagination.

                  • Count de Monetball says:
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                    @Sky: There is a House II, oh shit, I need to get less of a life, so I can watch it!!!

                    • Sky

                      Sky says:
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                      Puppypillars, Count! Puppypillars!

                  • Big Magoo

                    Big Magoo says:
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                    @Sky: If you like the good kind of cheesy horrors, check out The Stuff. It’s basically about mind-controlling ice cream. Nuff said. Some of the Leprechaun movies are good bad too. Never saw Lep: In The Hood though. Seems like that one could go either way.

                    • Sky

                      Sky says:
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                      Sorry man, ‘The Stuff’ is already a top 10’er for me regarding good bad. Actually was pretty damn smart given the timing of it (making fun of consumerism in the midst of the 80’s). My favorite part is Benjamin Stone being the lead character. That was outta nowhere…AND WHO EATS WHITE CREAMY STUFF OF THE GROUND! Seriously, that scene makes me scratch my head every time..and laugh of course.

                      Leprechaun was fun. I can’t say I saw past maybe 2, though. I have some catching up to do. Now more modern good bad flick: remake of The Wicker Man with Nic Cage. So quotable…

                    • J-FOH says:
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                      @Big Magoo: Is that better than attack of the killer tomatoes?

                    • Prez says:
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                      What the f*ck are puppypillars?

      • c0wfunk says:
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        @c0wfunk: In fact, digging deeper, his drafted staff:

        C.C. Sabathia
        Tim Lincecum
        Dan Haren
        Matt Garza
        Andrew Cashner
        Trevor Bauer
        Chad Billingsley

        Barely resembles his finishing staff:
        Estrada
        Salazar
        Kazmir
        Lincecum
        Garza
        Porcello
        Ventura
        Bumgarner
        Haren

        Further supporting the theories espoused on this site.

    • BigSloppyMacDaddy says:
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      @Wake Up: from what I remember, Razzball was strong in nothing

  49. themightypeace says:
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    400 ranked players – that is a mountain of work! Much appreciated.

    Are there any players who you feel are conservatively ranked that could easily jump up the list when the season starts? For example, Prospects whose arrival to the majors is imminent are usually quite conservative in rankings (justifiably so), but they Are a volatile bunch and there are always one or two players who surprise (usually pitchers). Who do you think are the most volatile rankings on your list?

  50. Jon says:
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    Lawrie is valued at $10, Porcello $11. Both have the chance to out-produce those numbers? Which one has the higher ceiling? The hitter?

    • Grey

      Grey says:
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      Yeah

  51. Big Magoo

    Big Magoo says:
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    The top 400 are already projected and in a sortable format. Well done, sir (or sirs, I didn’t forget about you Rudy). Just need this incredibly long offseason to come to an end.

    Regarding the rankings, do you expect Rios to be bumped into the #2 spot in the lineup at the expense of Andrus, or for Choo to be moved down against LHPs? It seems like Rios’ counting stats reflect those of a top of the order hitter rather than a 5 hole one.

    I’m looking to start a working list of the ’13 league winners who are interested in joining the Champions League this season. You have a standing invitation, Grey. It was fun having Nick in the league last year. J-FOH and mauledbypandas, I’ll send you guys emails, but you can also respond here to confirm your spots in the league. They’re there if you want ’em. I’ll be posting something in the forums as well.

    • Grey

      Grey says:
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      I’m assuming he see a lot of time in the two hole at the expense of Andrus, but it’s a fluid situation…

    • mauledbypandas says:
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      @Grey: Warsh is hard to predict sometimes. He tends to go with his trusted guys, and Andrus definitely is that by now. You never know though..
      @Big Magoo: I’d be down for sure. Let me know what I need to do

  52. Cram It says:
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    Do you guys have some sort of auction draft calculator? Like say you wanted to spend 70% on hitting and 30% on pitching, you could plug in how much money you’re allotted, # of roster spots, etc. It would be something you could use during the draft…like if I just spent $40 of my $260 on Goldy, it would recalculate how much money I should have left for offense/SP based on my percentage goal.

    Does this sound insane? :)

    • Shake N Bacon says:
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      @Cram It: Probably something easy enough to do on an Excel spreadsheet or a google spreadsheet that everyone could get a link to.

      Though I’m too lazy to do this myself. I might give it a try this weekend though Cram.

    • MattTruss

      MattTruss223 says:
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      @Cram It: The old Excel War Room kept track of how much $$ you had left as well as average remaining per player. Doesn’t seem like it would be a hard thing to add to break it into Off/Pitching. A spreadsheet with your goals and then columns under it for what you paid for guys that subtracted from the total would be pretty easy too. All else fails, the old calculator and notepad would do in a pinch.

      • Cram It says:
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        @Shake N Bacon: @MattTruss223: Word. Maybe an excel formula rule would work, but I’m savvy/un-lazy enough to work it out myself. Really, I just get so drunk by the 15th round that I lose track of my spending. Art imitating life…

        • MattTruss

          MattTruss223 says:
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          @Cram It: Ha! hear that

  53. JohnnyBaseball says:
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    In a H2H keeper league that includes the basics + 2B, Walks, and OPS categories. I am torn and trying to decide who to keep Avasial Garcia vs Christian Yelich. If only standard categories counted I would stick with Garcia, but the 2B + Walks makes me lean toward Yelich. Thoughts?

    • Grey

      Grey says:
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      Avisail

  54. c0wfunk says:
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    Thanks as always, Grey. I love to compare your rankings to ADPs and ESPN ranks to find where I can take advantage. Got me a 4th round goldschmidt and last round Marte last season..

    You must have hit some new tier in the fantasy baseball Googles, the troll persistence and frequency rates have really shot up this off season with real signs of upside this season!

    • Grey

      Grey says:
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      Haha…No problem

  55. c0wfunk says:
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    lemme throw out a “what about this guy” – I’ve heard a few experts mentioning cameron maybin as someone to look at as a bounceback this year. How far did he place out of the top 400? You see any upside at all there?

    • Grey

      Grey says:
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      He’s a platoon guy at the bottom of the Padres lineup as of right now… With a Venable or Quentin injury he’d slide into the top 300…

  56. Random Collmenter says:
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    I’ve done a few mock auctions on Yahoo and basically every player in your top 50 is going for WAY more $ than you have listed (except for a few – Pujols, etc.)… do you suggest sitting back and letting people overpay to scoop up deals later, or overpaying for a couple studs? I don’t want to get stuck with no one in the top 30…

    Thanks!

    • Cram It says:
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      @Random Collmenter: Mock auctions are tough to gauge. Always some looney’s driving up the price just because.

    • Grey

      Grey says:
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      Yeah, hang back…

    • costaricanchata says:
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      @Random Collmenter:

      try and drive up the price only on guys that you really want .
      that way , you won’t get stuck with someone else’s guys .

  57. Robby D says:
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    Finally I can provide value.

    If no one else is doing it, I’m updating the War room as it’s pretty simple excel stuff. I was going to add functionality to differentiate between ESPN and YAHOO position eligibility.

    Is there anything else on the wishlist of improvements from last year’s war room?

    • Grey

      Grey says:
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      Someone else has emailed it to me already and they’re going to do it (as of now), so you’re an alternate at this point…

    • Spammer Jay says:
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      @Robby D: Hey Robby, lets collaborate on it. I’m just starting on it now that these rankings are out. jason.loeffler22 (at) gmail.com .

      • Grey

        Grey says:
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        Hey, Spammer, someone emailed it to me already and I’m working with it now… Thanks!

        • Spammer Jay says:
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          @Grey: ok no prob. missing data for Casilla at 339.

          • Robby D says:
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            @Spammer Jay: Sorry I didn’t respond sooner. I am at work, and I had all the excel projections rolled in and the tiers created on the spreadsheet, but if nothing else, I’ll just work on this for my version of it. I love playing with the rankings and projections anyway and took the war room last year and tweaked the projections to reduce or increase the value as I saw it.

            I will probably leave that to the professionals because I was completely wrong on McCutcheon last year and Pujols, so I’ll just stick to the ones used here.

  58. Hawk says:
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    @Grey

    Any chance of doing a keeper style post? A post where you adjust the rankings based on drafting in a keeper (keep forever, dynasty)league?

    Ex: In a keeper league, you’d definitely take Trout over Cabrera. A lot of the pitcher rankings would change based on being able to keep etc…

    Thanks for all the hard work!

    • Grey

      Grey says:
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      Keeper rankings coming next week

      • Hawk says:
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        @Grey:

        You sir….your stache is not trash.

        • Grey

          Grey says:
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          Thanks!

  59. Jurickselton Primmons says:
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    Dynasty auction league, 6×6 W/ OPS & Holds. Who do I retain? I get 4 Keepers.

    Prince Fielder – $36
    Brandon Belt – $6
    Andrew McCutchen – $38
    Wil Myers – $5 (mmmmmm)
    Jean Segura – $5
    Trevor Rosenthal – $5
    Greg Holland – $6
    Alex Cobb – $9
    Gerrit Cole – $5

    Thanks guys

    • Grey

      Grey says:
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      Cole, McCutchen, Segura, Myers

  60. Jurickselton Primmons says:
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    $300 Auction budget

  61. Nimrod says:
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    Love this site. !st time posting. I’m in a 12 team roto snake draft. Each team will have two infielders at each position, two catchers, five outfielders and ten pitchers, mix and match. Does your strategy stay the same as far as waiting on SP,3B and catchers? Thank you

    • Grey

      Grey says:
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      Thanks! I wouldn’t wait in 3B, I’d grab one early catcher and wait on pitchers the same way…

  62. Big Al says:
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    Nice to have the Top 400 as a base and guideline to use for my rankings. It’s amazing how people go crazy on comparing the different rankings. There guidelines and tools for you to use. Use the one’s that go with your thinking on rankings. After a few years you see whose rankings make more sense for you, by the results you get in your leagues. Because that’s what really counts in the end. Good work keep up the good work Grey. Enjoy the site.

    • Dead Heads says:
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      @Big Al: I second this post! Rankings aren’t set in stone, and that’s evident by the continuous rankings put out during the season. So just rework or rethink some guys you like better, but overall look at abunch of different rankings and figure out which ones line up with your thinking/strategy. Well said!

    • Grey

      Grey says:
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      Agreed and thanks!

  63. Dead Heads says:
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    Hmm I’m confused, I understand ranking Puig below Braun, but he is projected for 5 more steals and more HR’s and a higher BA. Is this on purpose? Or is he ranked lower because you feel it’s a lot more likely Puig under produces those numbers and Braun is pretty questionable on what he’s going to do but has been consistent for a lot of years?

    I actually think Braun picks up right where he left off, honestly I’m sure he has more than 1 PED supplier so if he’s really that terrible when he’s not on the stuff I would assume he would continue using them…

    • Grey

      Grey says:
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      Puig has more risk…

      • Dead Heads says:
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        @Grey: Ya it’s scary when someone has more risk than Braun, but it makes sense. Thanks for the clarification, I actually think Braun surprises people this year, and goes back to being the elite fantasy OF we all used to know and love(somewhat).

        • Grey

          Grey says:
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          No problem

  64. MattTruss

    MattTruss223 says:
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    Wonderful day Grey! Thanks for all your work man!

    Looks like Josmil Pinto got deleted off the list, FYI. Also, Satiago Casilla’s projections are all zeros.

    • Grey

      Grey says:
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      Pinto was deleted on purpose… Twins announced he’s not starting…. Will look at Casilla…

      • MattTruss

        MattTruss223 says:
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        @Grey: Doh! Missed that bit of info, thanks Grey!

        • Grey

          Grey says:
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          Casilla is being deleted… I originally had all RPs, then removed ones that didn’t make top 400 (ones not getting lots of saves)…

  65. Monkey Shines says:
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    Hey, someone might have already mentioned this in the comments, but an AL/NL filter would be pretty awesome.

    And thanks for all of this fantastic analysis. The website is top notch.

    • Grey

      Grey says:
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      Thanks! There will be AL/NL dedicated ones in the coming days…

  66. Sam says:
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    Thanks for the rankings. Which 4 would you keep for 4 yrs in a H2H 5×5 weekly league? Taveras, Springer, Rendon, T. Walker, Gray?

    • Grey

      Grey says:
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      Not Rendon

      EDITED. Made a typo

  67. SteveNZ says:
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    Congrats on the quantity of traffic.

    Pity about the quality of some it it.

    • Grey

      Grey says:
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      Ha

      • SteveNZ says:
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        @Grey: Funny to look back on some of those old ranking posts with their 11 comments. And four of those were from me, talking about food.

        • Grey

          Grey says:
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          HAHA… Yup

        • Carnac says:
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          HAHAHA

    • SteveNZ says:
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      @SteveNZ: of some *of* it.

  68. BigDeal says:
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    Who do you like more in a dynasty? Chris Tillman or Jered Weaver?

    I think you would say Tillman but not fully sure. You have Weaver rated higher for this season, but his declining velocity is a concern. On the other hand, Tillman pitches in AL East, but is younger.

    • Grey

      Grey says:
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      Tillman

      • BigDeal says:
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        @Grey:

        Thanks Grey. You the man. Hope I can get him to be my 3rd or 4th SP. All your young sleeper SPs that I wanted (Cole, Cobb, Salazar, Gray) were taken too early (#33-80) for my liking

  69. Mrs. Featherbottom says:
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    2014 Goal:
    Coin a new term for the Razzball glossary centered on the enigma known as Michael Brantley.

    • Grey

      Grey says:
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      Great idea!

  70. Mike says:
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    As always, your rankings are awesome. Any chance you’ll have a post comparing your rankings to some other ones out there?

  71. Bassfisher says:
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    Keep 5

    Trout
    Hanley
    Braun
    Craig
    Pujols
    Agon
    Desmond
    Mauer
    Lee
    Salazar

    Thanks for the hard work

    • Grey

      Grey says:
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      Go per my rankings…

      • costaricanchata says:
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        @Grey:

        huh ?
        where am i supposed to find those ??

        • Grey

          Grey says:
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          They’re above…

  72. Carnac says:
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    I tried making some Carnac Top 200 rankings last month. It was so, so hard. This list is truly a work of herculean (or sisyphean?) proportions. I tip my turban to you, old friend.

    Question for Grey: are those your auction values?

    • Grey

      Grey says:
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      Ha, thanks! They are my auction values…

      • Carnac says:
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        Very cool. Based on a roster/league size?

        Two, small potential troubleshooting spots I noticed: Middlebrooks is $-3 and Cingrani is $14. Both are in a sea of $11 guys.

        • Grey

          Grey says:
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          12 team… Will look at Middlebrooks and Cingrani, thanks!

  73. Smokey

    Smokey says:
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    Trolling your comment Grey

    Fernando Rodney signs with Mariners. Sorry Farquhar.

    • Grey

      Grey says:
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      Yeah, I gotta remove Farq from the rankings…

      • Carnac says:
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        Dark Carnac wonders if Seattle didn’t sign Rodney for his arm, but rather his knees. His strong, healthy, easily transplantable knees.

        • Grey

          Grey says:
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          If they sign an octopus next, I might wonder too…

        • Sky

          Sky says:
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          Ugh, Carnac…I’m just very thankful the ‘hawks won a championship in football. This season is gonna be rough. So much money to maybe reach .500…

          • Carnac says:
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            I know, it could be really bad this summer. On the one hand, that means cheap and available tickets. On the other, having to watch Rodney pitch the 9th. Or any inning ever.

            • Sky

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              Whatever inning he pitches is the inning I’m getting more beer. I do think they’ll be better this year but still too many holes on offense. And now a hole in the 9th…that we didn’t really have before…

              • Carnac says:
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                That’s what kills me, the 9th inning wasn’t a problem that needed fixing. If you could call the addition of Rodney fixing anything. I guess moneyball is for NorCal… the Mariners play murderball. Because all their players are in wheel chairs. GROAN.

                Just saw: “Mariners ‘cautiously optimistic’ on Cruz”

                Yay!

                How often you make it up to games?

                • Sky

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                  Ha! Murderball…I love it.

                  I don’t make it up often at all but want to change all that this summer. It’s on the train line and a quick trip from Eugene, would like to get my wife up there with me a few times but they’d probably be mid-week games. She works weekends. Of course, if you wanna plan a PNW trip with me, I won’t turn you down. We keep threatening to get together, why not at a ball game, eh? You’re in Portland as it is, right?

                  • J-FOH says:
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                    @Sky: this isn’t turning into some strangers on a train thing?….murderball?….Rodney!!!

                    • Sky

                      Sky says:
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                      Nah, Sam L is gonna show up. Snakes On A Train, yo!

                  • Carnac says:
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                    Yup, I’m in Portland. Let’s do a PNW trip once all this snow (!) stops.

                    • Sky

                      Sky says:
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                      Yeah…seriously what is this? When did we move to the East side of the mountains and why was I not notified?

                • J-FOH

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                  @Carnac: I did my PNW trip and got stuck in Portland for the night, just missed the Hank the 3rd show and ended up at Dante’s for it was the only place near my hotel that had people with boobs in it.

    • costaricanchata says:
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      @Smokey:

      great .
      now he’ll get to shoot one of his freakin’ arrows at the aurora borealis .

    • Aubrey Plaza's Pillow says:
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      @Smokey: damn i was this close to betting that’s exactly what would happen, should’ve got down last week.

  74. costaricanchata says:
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    if i seem more cynical than usual ,
    it’s because some commenter (i won’t mention any names)
    stood his ground and refused to trade his mike trout .

    well , at least he’s a man of conviction .
    but that doesn’t really surprise me ,
    since he lives next door to a whole continent of ancestral convicts .

    • Grey

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      Haha

      • costaricanchata says:
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        @Grey:

        seriously thought i had him this time around ,
        but he ain’t giving up trout until they’re both old and (ahem) grey .

        • Grey

          Grey says:
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          Haha… You can understand why he wouldn’t give him up since you were the one trying so hard to get him…

    • SteveNZ says:
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      @costaricanchata: That guy sounds like an intractable jackass. Surprised anyone would have him in a league.

      • costaricanchata says:
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        @SteveNZ:

        naw .
        he’s a patzer , compared to some of us .

          • Grey

            Grey says:
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            @Steve ESPN is open, could you set up the Original Recipe league with 2 DL slots and 180 starts as the only changes from default? Then put it into the spreadsheet…

            • SteveNZ says:
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              @Grey: Done. How do I get to the spreadsheet?

              • Grey

                Grey says:
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                I shared it with you… Let me know if you don’t get it…

                • SteveNZ says:
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                  @Grey: Got it. Think I’ve filled it correctly. Some of the instructions don’t quite match the columns, though…

                  • Grey

                    Grey says:
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                    Great, thanks, Steve!

                  • Grey

                    Grey says:
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                    Ah, yeah, Rudy wrote the instructions, will fix…

                    • SteveNZ says:
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                      @Grey: Typical. All about the data, doesn’t care about the user experience (emoticon)

                    • Grey

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                      Ha! *shakes fist*

  75. Robby D says:
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    We all hate the idea of busting on a top pick. Obviously we use these rankings juxtaposed against ESPN and Yahoo’s rankings. It allows me to generate value by taking a guy like Goldy last year in the 3rd-4th round (after testing it in mock drafts) and get first round value. It cost me on Ruttledge last year, but since I waited until round 20+ something in non-RCL leagues, it didn’t matter, because those are all expendable picks after 20+ and his ADP was like 220 something in ESPN if I remember correctly.

    But is there a term besides a st for picking a player in a specific round and having them bust not due to injury but just because they didn’t live up to the hype.

    For example, if Kershaw returns to a 2.25ish ERA guy with 200+ K’s and all the gravy peripherals, he will be solid fantasy value, but if you picked him 3rd overall and that nets you 20th+ overall fantasy value, he’s still technically a bust for where you picked him.

    Is there already a term for that kind of guy? Specifically not due to injury, but just hype?

    Use in a sentence: “Kershaw’s a stud, but in the first round he’s a _____!”

    Or: “I’m not buying the hype on Hamilton because of his hitting, in the 4th round he’s a _____”

    I was thinking Minedraft. Although after today, I guess a Bill James Special/sleeper may make more sense.

    • Grey

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      Not sure on a term, but I think we can do better than your examples…

      • J-FOH says:
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        @Grey: paying Retail

        • costaricanchata says:
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          @J-FOH:

          that’s good .

  76. Oppo Taco says:
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    Profar/Boegarts/Ryan Zimmerman, can only keep 1. No prices and can keep forever. Zimmermans first half is usually terrible and I might end up moving him for a draft pick. Too risky relying on one of those youngsters as my final keeper?

  77. J-FOH says:
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    been sick all week and catching up on some TV, have you seen True Detective yet?

    • Grey

      Grey says:
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      Yeah, it’s great… Love Woody… Bit light on plot, but the creator says he doesn’t care about crime procedures, more about character…

      • J-FOH says:
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        @Grey: Both are good, plot needs more development but it’s really different and keeps the baby’s mama on the hook. Woody’s girlfriend is super hot with a great rack….BONUS!

        • Grey

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          Yeah, score/score/double score on that… I like that it’s more thematic and character driven… The plot is from hunger…

          • J-FOH

            J-FOH says:
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            @Grey: I tell you one thing it makes me never want to leave New Orleans if I ever go to Louisiana. My dad told me if I ever go to the south to stay off the back roads, of course he’s the same man that would send me down to Florence and Normandie to work.

            • Grey

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              Ha… Yeah, backwoods there gets scary…

  78. El grande says:
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    I have to choose one of the following players to keep. Who do you recommend Grey:
    Matt carpenter
    Zach Grienke
    Alex Gordon
    Kimbrel
    Chapman
    Gio

    All have 3 years eligibility except Grienke.
    5×5 league with wins, era, whip, sv, Ks
    Hr, RBI, runs, avg, SB

    Thx Grey

    • J-FOH says:
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      @El grande: what else are you keeping?

      • El grande says:
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        @J-FOH: @Grey: other keepers miggie, votto, Freeman’s, and segura. It’s my last keeper Im worried about.

        Does having those others change anything? I’m still leaning gordon/kimbrel

        • Grey

          Grey says:
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          I’d lean the same way

    • Grey

      Grey says:
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      Gordon…Don’t love the choices…

      • El grande says:
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        @Grey: other keepers miggie, votto, Freeman’s, and segura. It’s my last keeper Im worried about.

        Thx Grey

  79. Dubbs says:
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    RuggiaNooooooo any thoughts on why he didn’t make the top 400? A question of playing time perhaps?

    • J-FOH says:
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      @Dubbs: he’s not worth drafting, hit .222 last year, if anything he can be a streamer on an off day in a favorable match-up.

    • Grey

      Grey says:
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      He’s a bench bat as of right now

  80. fitz says:
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    I will be wasting my last pick on Grady Sizemore

    • J-FOH says:
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      @fitz: he could be the great zombkneeno

    • Grey

      Grey says:
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      Nice

  81. Milarky says:
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    I’ve read you loud and clear on your preference to wait for pitching. I’m in a league with virtually no waiver claims (2 total) and everyone keeps 2 pitchers. My two keepers are Greinke and Anibal. Given that we can’t stream and that my keepers aren’t the best, do you still follow the same strategy, or are you more likely to prioritize a pitcher earlier than in a ‘normal’ format?

    • Grey

      Grey says:
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      You have two number ones already… But I have no idea how many teams in your league…

      • Milarky says:
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        @Grey: 12 team league, and we start 6 SPs.

  82. Joe Mother says:
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    grey!
    Foreva keeper…so, which keeper squad would you rather have? i have one of these 4, and can make deals to get to the other four – rounds you can keep in parenthesis sir. thanks for all you do.

    Tulo (3), Ian Desmond (24), JoFer (27), Gyorko (27)
    or
    JUpton(3), Machado (24), Bogaerts (27), Gyorko (27)

    is desmond too redundant b/c of tulo? orrr

    • Grey

      Grey says:
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      Desmond

  83. Clemente says:
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    grey, are you down on machado only for this year? or do you just think he kind of sucks/overrated in general? What im asking is, i have him cheap in my auction league…stick it out or abandon ship while i can get something good

    • Count de Monetball says:
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      @Clemente: Grey noted in his 3rd Basemen rankings “Probably would’ve ranked Machado above Wright if he didn’t get hurt going into the offseason. I love Machado like a mother chicken loves her mothereffin’ eggs, but, for this year, I’m passing on him in drafts.” – Thus his injury is scary for 2014. Further, I recently read that Machado said he “may have to relearn to run after having several injuries”. Not sure I remember where i read that, but yeah he has a lot of risk for 2014. Should be fine in the future, but I also read that the O’s are trying to sign Hardy to an extension, so it looks like Macho Man will stay at third…

      • goodfold2 says:
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        @Count de Monetball: what are the several injuries? i only remember one.

    • Grey

      Grey says:
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      Yup, for this year

  84. John says:
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    okay then to trade pagan for boni?

    • goodfold2 says:
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      @John: boni isn’t starting as of now (i.e. you should be able to get more in boneface deal)

  85. costaricanchata says:
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    @ Grey :

    made the deal for goldschmidt .
    sent craig , archer , and felix .

    since we can only keep 10 players ,
    this allows me to retain cano and add cobb to my keepers .
    would rather he have taken trumbo instead of craig , but ,
    an over-pay is an over-pay is an over-pay .

  86. MB says:
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    Which side you want for not just this yr but next three or so?

    Gardner/Des Jennings

    A Jax/Howie K

    The Team getting Howie K only has Ackley at 2B

    Keep everyone forever league

    Thank you

  87. Alex says:
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    Yo Grey, appreciate all the amazing work.

    How would you rank these in a dynasty startup?

    Davis
    Votto
    Hanley
    Braun
    E5
    Longo
    Cano
    Prince
    Gomez
    Stanton
    Puig

    Gracias

  88. J-FOH says:
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    RCL’s!

  89. RicoSuave says:
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    Can this list be applied to H2H , points format? if not, what is the difference? or what changes could I make?
    Thanks in advance

  90. Nate says:
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    Hey Grey, I appreciate your work as always and love your rankings… I also really liked your starting blurb about how much latitude there is and when… would you consider doing a post on how far you’re willing to “reach”.

    I mean clearly you have Gyorko/Cobb/Teheran etc alot higher than most ESPN/Yahoo lists, which means that’s where the value is… but where would you plan on drafting, let’s say Gyorko. You have him ranked 88th, and yahoo has him at 177 – if you draft him at 88 you don’t necessarily get “value” on him, you’re just making the right pick… would you wait until 120-140 when you’re in danger of losing them to another keener?

    Last year I relied heavily on your rankings (which helped, so thanks) and I reached for Machado, Harvey, Moore and Ike Davis … 2 worked out great, 1 was on par and one was a bad investment… overall win. But as I looked back i couldn’t help but wonder did I reach too early… could I have waited an extra round or two…

    Thoughts? (For Grey and others if you’ve created any rules for this sort of thing)

    • goodfold2 says:
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      @Nate: in ron shandler’s this year (baseball forecaster) there is a GREAT formula that you can plug into excel (i need to learn excel) wherein you figure out a player’s ADP, when he was drafted first to find out his standard deviation. from there you can find out what likelihood a player is able to be drafted at. So you could find out how likely you could get Gyorko, at say, 120th, or 140th. then simply grab him at whatever reasonable spot you’re willing to gamble at.

  91. yerg kcuf says:
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    I would have flip flopped danny espinosa and brandon crawford…but thats just me

  92. Bassfisher says:
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    Regarding Sonny Gray Grey

    I want to go to Colorado on/with him as much as you do but I am hesitant after looking at his opponents when he started.

    Houston twice
    Seattle twice
    Minnesota twice
    Tampa bay
    Angles
    Baltimore- probably strongest of the 10 and gave up 6 in 3.1
    Toronto

    No tigers, rangers, Red Sox, Yankees
    Angles mariners rangers within division will have better lineups
    Road era and whip were unrespectable 3.86 and 1.41, respectively

    I just don’t have the sac to believe in him as much due to those facts… Cause for concern?

    • goodfold2 says:
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      @Bassfisher: ubaldo’s schedule at end of year was even easier (just to bring up similar point to anyone claiming ubaldo “learned something”, or “remembered something” in last 2 or so months of last year)

    • Grey

      Grey says:
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      Who’s he facing in his first start?

      • Bassfisher says:
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        @Grey: Cleveland or Seattle’s improved lineup

  93. tank1 says:
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    Keeper question. I have the following options in 11 team 6×6 mixed league. I can keep 5 guys. Their draft rounds are listed in parentheses. Thanks.

    M. Cabrera (1)
    A. Jones (5)
    C. Davis (9)
    H. Bailey (14)
    Y. Molina (20)
    A. Hill (23)
    B. Hamilton (24)
    D. Salazer (25)

    • Grey

      Grey says:
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      Miggy, A. Jones, Davis, Hamilton, Bailey

  94. Peter Nincompoop says:
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    I know you hate keeper questions, so I’m going to use up my 2014 allotment and just get it over with so we can move on to debating why Xander Bogaerts is ranked #276. I’m in a long term 10-team league where you keep six players (at least two pitchers and two hitters). I have a good problem, in that I have too many guys to decide between and will more than likely trade a couple of them away for upgrades and/or draft picks, but as it stands, which six would you keep out of the following group:

    Hitters (pick 4)- McCutcheon, Fielder, Cano, Puig, Beltre, Han-Ram and Marte.
    Pitchers (pick 2)- Price, Gonzalez, Liriano, Bailey, Zimmerman and Weaver.

    I’m going to be throwing the vast majority of these guys into the draft, so their fetching price with my competitors has deflated, but I do have two offers I’m mulling over. First, Fielder, Han-Ram and Gio Gonzalez for Troy Tulowitzki and Chris Sale. Second, Han-Ram and Gio Gonzalez for Max Scherzer.

    Your opinion on the aforementioned and/or ideas on other trades, as always, is much appreciated.

    Your my boy, Blue.

    • Grey

      Grey says:
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      You do have too many guys… Here’s 6: McCutchen, Fielder, Cano, Puig… Gio, Price… The 2nd trade sounds good…

  95. Matt says:
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    I’m in a 15 man weekly roto league, (6×6, OBP league) must draft 2 of every IF spot (C,1b,2b,3b,ss), 4 OF, 5 SP, 3 RP, $300 auction budget, must keep 10 keepers, active roster 1 C,1b,2b,3b,,ss,CI,MI, 3OF,5SP, 3RP and my keepers are looking like $13 J.Lucroy, $13 Mark Tex, $9 Matt Carpenter, $1 Machado, $6 Alcides Escobar, $6 Puig, $15 Carlos Gomez, $26 Choo, $6 Beachy, do you suggest I adhere to the $70/$30 split for hitters, try and craft a Murderer’s Row, or try and make my team balanced? (Top pitchers like Waino, Stras, Sale, J-Fernandez, Cole, Wacha, Iwakuma, Medlen, Price are kept and I don’t really feel like spending $40 or more on Kershaw or a declining Verlander). Thanks again for all your work!

    • Grey

      Grey says:
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      Make your team balanced

      • Matt says:
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        @Grey: thanks Grey, so spending $35+ for a Kershaw/Felix/Darvish type would be a necessity in my case?

        • Grey

          Grey says:
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          Yup

  96. Micah Stupak says:
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    Man, dilemma. Check this:

    20 team, $260 budget, 5×5, and the only stat change that matters for our needs is K goes to K/9 and it’s not Sv but Sv+Hd

    I’ve got my keepers looking great*, but the end of pitching is a head-scratcher. I’m keeping Scherzer ($28), Fister ($12) and Teheran ($1). I can only keep one of Porcello ($6), Masterson ($7), and Kluber ($1). What to do? I am inclined towards Porcello for immediate upside, as I think the upgraded Detroit defense will be awesome for him, but Kluber is cheaper and maybe better in the long run.

    * R/RBI/SB/OBP/SLG: my batters are fantastic: W Rosario, Goldy, E Cabrera, Beltre, Pence, Heyward, C Carter. All for $143.

    • Grey

      Grey says:
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      Your pitching is fine already… Keep Kluber…

      • Micah Stupak says:
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        @Grey: Great, thanks Grey.

        • Grey

          Grey says:
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          No problem

  97. Mevs says:
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    Prince still in the top 10? C’mon, go out on a limb. He’s not finishing in the top 10 this season. This isn’t as bad as Rotoworld or anything but you’re being too safe with a lot of this IMO.

  98. Mike B says:
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    Dearest Grey, I have a groupon discount for jamba juice with your name on it if you can shed a little more light on your Hamels ranking. My apologies if that’s been touched on already. I did my best to read through the majority of comments, but I only got through the first million(they say that’s the hardest). I understand he had a terrible start last year and has a slight downward trend in numbers, but he seemed to stabilize and has been solid for a few years in most categories. I am in QS leagues, so I understand if the wins are an issue given the phils offense. Ranking at 35 among starters and 126 overall strikes me as a strong do not draft from you. Fun to see the tiers and overall rankings. Thanks for all the hard work and insight!

    • Grey

      Grey says:
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      I wrote an overrated post on Hamels specifically, and I’ll post it in the next week or so…

      • Mike B says:
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        @Grey: Thanks!

  99. Phil says:
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    I’m assuming it’s a mistake but you have Tanaka in your Top 40 SP but not your top 400 players? Where should he be on this list?

    • Grey

      Grey says:
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      That’s weird, I’ll correct it… He’s listed at 104 on my 400…I’ll need to ping Rudy…

    • Grey

      Grey says:
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      @Phil: It’s fixed, thanks for pointing it out!

  100. Jose Can't I See? says:
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    Looks like Jose Abreu is AWOL at #63.

    • Jose Can't I See? says:
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      @Jose Can’t I See?:

      Also, there is no #240. It could be that there is no #240 in the number system and I just hadn’t noticed. If so, please disregard.

  101. Jason says:
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    If WHIP was not a concern. How different would your rankings be? I play in a league where we do not count WHIP.

  102. Chis says:
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    Just discovered your site today and have burnt 6 hours already! Thanks for the great work. Noticed # 62 and 102 are missing – player deleted or just misnumbered?

    • Grey

      Grey says:
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      Thanks for the kind words! Due to international players not having ‘player pages’ we’ve been having problems with them getting deleted… 62 is Abreu and 102 is Tanaka… We’re gonna try to add them back in again…

    • Chis says:
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      @Chis: also 240.

      • Chis says:
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        @Chis: And I see this was answered a few posts above…..

        • Grey

          Grey says:
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          It was fixed…

  103. RicoSuave says:
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    Hi Grey,
    Wow, this is a lot of work man! AWESOME work…
    I’ve enjoyed your projections and player write-ups and I’ve learned and enjoyed the great articles.
    I need your help though, I’m in a 14 team H2H points league C/1B/2B/SS/3B/3 OF/5 SP/2 RP(closers) / 5 Bench players, based on my league setup and your players projections what changes do you think I should make when it comes to draft day?
    Thanks a lot

    • Grey

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      Thanks! I wouldn’t change anything per se, I’d just make sure which guys to focus on at any given moment… You should have one ace, one Cole tier pitcher and follow my pairings just leaving off a guy at the end… Hitters are a bit shallower in your league… 14 team, 3 OF, isn’t really that different than 12 team 5 OF though…

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