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Finally, we come to the end of the 2014 fantasy baseball rankings. (Can we start games already?) A little birdie told me we’re opening up our commenter fantasy leagues on Monday.  Then the little birdie pooped on my shoulder and I thought it was blue cheese and I put it on a cracker and– Wait, where was I?  Okay, you know that I like Avisail Garcia more than Leonys Martin in the top 60 outfielders for 2014 fantasy baseball. You know I like Alcides Escobar more than Asdrubal Cabrera as seen at the top 20 shortstops for 2014 fantasy baseball, but you don’t know how I feel about where these guys fall in the bigger picture.  Is Alcides above Avisail?  So to show you where I think players fall in relation to each other in 2014 fantasy baseball drafts, I’m putting together a top 400 for 2014 fantasy baseball.  This still needs to be taken with a grain of salt.  If you have a shortstop already and Alcides is still on the board at pick 200, you don’t draft him if you see Leonys Martin and you need an outfielder, even though Leonys is below Alcides on this list.  So I might take someone at 200 over someone at 180?  Yes, every draft is different.  With the top 10, there’s almost no latitude.  With the top 100, there’s a decent amount of latitude.  With a top 400, there’s lots of latitude.  You taking someone at 185 is more or less the same as someone else taking someone at 235.  So if you see someone who’s ranked at 250th, but want them at 200, then do what you do.  Because of the length of the top 400, there’s no pithy comments with each name, but you kinda do need to know what I’m thinking for each name, so I advise you go over each position in the 2014 fantasy baseball rankings. The top 100 and top 400 is what I would have at my drafts, along with the top 20 rankings posts.  If I were drafting online, I’d also use the Fantasy Baseball War Room (which is hopefully ready on Tuesday; this is out of my control, someone else needs to fill out the Excel spreadsheet).  Also, see our list of all players with multiple position eligibility.  Finally, here is this top 400 for 2014 fantasy baseball without any of this jibber-jabbering.  Anyway, here’s the top 400 for 2014 fantasy baseball:

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# Name Team ESPN YAHOO $ AB R HR RBI SB AVG IP W SV ERA WHIP K
Mike Trout LAA OF OF 47 592 108 33 106 20 0.281
Giancarlo Stanton MIA OF OF 42 558 93 43 109 7 0.270
Jose Abreu CHA 1B 1B 41 562 86 32 110 4 0.306
Andrew McCutchen PIT OF OF 40 572 92 22 94 20 0.309
Paul Goldschmidt ARI 1B 1B 39 582 94 29 103 12 0.292
Adam Jones BAL OF OF 35 642 90 28 101 10 0.280
Edwin Encarnacion TOR 1B 1B 35 523 87 37 107 5 0.272
Miguel Cabrera DET 1B 1B/3B 35 559 95 27 106 1 0.305
Anthony Rizzo CHN 1B 1B 32 589 93 36 100 7 0.262
Carlos Gomez MIL OF OF 32 562 89 24 70 28 0.279
Jose Bautista TOR OF 1B/OF 31 560 95 33 101 5 0.272
Clayton Kershaw LAN SP SP 30 221 18 0 2.22 0.95 232
Bryce Harper WAS OF OF 29 562 87 25 101 12 0.284
Justin Upton SD OF OF 29 573 81 27 95 8 0.266
Ian Desmond WAS SS SS 29 577 75 21 87 22 0.251
Josh Donaldson TOR 3B 3B 29 595 84 29 102 8 0.262
Yasiel Puig LAN OF OF 28 571 96 24 72 15 0.298
Hanley Ramirez BOS SS/OF SS/OF 28 503 72 20 84 12 0.268
Nolan Arenado COL 3B 3B 27 582 84 27 98 5 0.292
Felix Hernandez SEA SP SP 27 231 16 0 2.41 0.99 239
Adrian Beltre TEX 3B 3B 26 561 86 22 97 1 0.291
Troy Tulowitzki COL SS SS 26 470 79 24 88 1 0.312
Corey Dickerson COL OF OF 26 527 82 26 84 10 0.293
Carlos Gonzalez COL OF OF 25 503 77 22 81 16 0.274
Anthony Rendon WAS 2B/3B 2B/3B 25 578 91 19 68 9 0.286
Michael Brantley CLE OF OF 25 592 87 17 92 19 0.301
Albert Pujols LAA 1B 1B 25 587 81 27 96 5 0.261
Jose Altuve HOU 2B 2B 24 627 78 8 55 39 0.306
Robinson Cano SEA 2B 2B 24 601 82 19 92 7 0.305
Jacoby Ellsbury NYA OF OF 24 584 86 15 79 30 0.278
Max Scherzer WAS SP SP 24 223 18 0 2.49 1.10 248
Corey Kluber CLE SP SP 24 228 16 0 2.63 1.07 252
Stephen Strasburg WAS SP SP 24 218 17 0 2.58 1.07 239
David Price DET SP SP 24 229 17 0 2.69 1.07 239
Chris Sale CHA SP SP 23 189 15 0 2.41 0.99 217
Evan Longoria TB 3B 3B 23 618 81 25 90 5 0.261
Chris Davis BAL 1B/3B 1B/3B 23 519 72 34 89 2 0.231
Freddie Freeman ATL 1B 1B 23 565 91 20 94 3 0.293
Yoenis Cespedes DET OF OF 22 545 73 26 87 7 0.254
Billy Hamilton CIN OF OF 22 586 80 7 45 65 0.257
Ryan Braun MIL OF OF 22 542 77 22 85 13 0.261
Todd Frazier CIN 1B/3B 1B/3B 22 542 79 24 73 10 0.255
Zack Greinke LAN SP SP 21 208 18 0 2.95 1.13 212
Madison Bumgarner SF SP SP 21 207 16 0 3.01 1.06 206
Jon Lester CHN SP SP 21 211 15 0 2.92 1.08 206
Jordan Zimmermann WAS SP SP 21 209 17 0 2.89 1.06 186
Johnny Cueto CIN SP SP 20 215 15 0 2.89 1.08 204
Dee Gordon MIA 2B 2B 20 592 86 1 29 55 0.263
Brian Dozier MIN 2B 2B 20 589 89 19 67 15 0.246
Jason Kipnis CLE 2B 2B 20 552 81 15 70 24 0.261
Jeff Samardzija CHA SP SP 20 205 14 0 3.24 1.12 206
Tyson Ross SD SP SP 20 203 14 0 3.11 1.15 204
Jake Arrieta CHN SP SP 20 195 12 0 2.88 1.06 198
Hisashi Iwakuma SEA SP SP 20 201 14 0 3.15 1.07 177
Carlos Santana CLE 1B/3B C/1B/3B 19 550 73 28 89 4 0.254
Buster Posey SF C/1B C/1B 19 522 67 22 85 1 0.302
Craig Kimbrel SD RP RP 19 61 3 42 1.55 0.90 92
Aroldis Chapman CIN RP RP 19 60 4 40 1.92 0.93 107
Matt Kemp SD OF OF 19 531 72 22 81 8 0.276
Nelson Cruz SEA OF OF 19 576 71 26 85 5 0.262
Starling Marte PIT OF OF 19 521 79 16 70 33 0.265
David Ortiz BOS DH 1B 18 511 77 28 94 1 0.265
Jose Reyes TOR SS SS 18 558 91 8 46 27 0.281
Cole Hamels PHI SP SP 18 202 12 0 2.97 1.15 192
Gerrit Cole PIT SP SP 18 202 15 0 3.20 1.18 198
Ian Kinsler DET 2B 2B 18 592 83 15 77 15 0.269
Kolten Wong STL 2B 2B 18 553 84 18 60 24 0.278
Carlos Carrasco CLE SP SP 17 190 13 0 3.27 1.09 192
Alex Wood ATL SP SP 17 196 13 0 3.12 1.21 192
George Springer HOU OF OF 17 541 83 27 87 16 0.238
Jason Heyward STL OF OF 17 571 91 20 75 15 0.274
Eric Hosmer KC 1B 1B 17 531 81 18 87 9 0.288
Prince Fielder TEX 1B 1B 17 524 79 27 90 1 0.272
Adrian Gonzalez LAN 1B 1B 16 571 79 22 103 1 0.264
Alexei Ramirez CHA SS SS 16 604 72 10 79 23 0.277
Starlin Castro CHN SS SS 16 589 71 16 80 7 0.269
Xander Bogaerts BOS SS/3B SS/3B 16 547 69 15 74 7 0.253
Wil Myers SD OF OF 16 550 61 20 72 8 0.277
Jay Bruce CIN OF OF 16 569 77 27 89 9 0.235
Marcell Ozuna MIA OF OF 16 573 71 27 83 5 0.261
Mat Latos MIA SP SP 16 198 13 0 3.19 1.17 181
Phil Hughes MIN SP SP 16 212 13 0 3.29 1.14 178
Greg Holland KC RP RP 16 64 2 40 2.32 0.99 89
Masahiro Tanaka NYA SP SP 15 148 10 0 3.49 1.15 150
Adam Wainwright STL SP SP 15 201 14 0 3.53 1.15 161
Lucas Duda NYN 1B 1B 15 529 74 31 90 1 0.247
Matt Harvey NYN SP SP 15 142 7 0 3.27 1.10 150
Joey Votto CIN 1B 1B 15 539 84 17 88 4 0.292
Kyle Seager SEA 3B 3B 15 594 70 22 84 8 0.259
Pablo Sandoval BOS 3B 3B 15 537 79 21 92 2 0.304
David Wright NYN 3B 3B 15 540 74 16 81 10 0.282
Christian Yelich MIA OF OF 15 569 82 14 61 22 0.288
Jorge Soler CHN OF OF 15 541 73 25 81 5 0.278
Danny Santana MIN SS/OF SS/OF 15 587 89 9 39 27 0.262
Kole Calhoun LAA OF OF 15 585 98 22 53 10 0.269
Matt Holliday STL OF OF 14 541 85 20 91 3 0.274
Charlie Blackmon COL OF OF 14 532 79 15 60 20 0.285
Hunter Pence SF OF OF 14 532 70 17 85 9 0.274
Alex Gordon KC OF OF 14 538 84 20 70 10 0.262
Brett Gardner NYA OF OF 14 519 78 11 49 25 0.257
Matt Shoemaker LAA SP SP 14 185 15 0 3.33 1.09 164
Mike Fiers MIL SP SP 14 202 12 0 3.35 1.15 189
Julio Teheran ATL SP SP 14 199 12 0 3.37 1.10 167
Jacob deGrom NYN SP SP 14 191 11 0 3.19 1.19 164
Sonny Gray OAK SP SP 14 216 12 0 3.27 1.21 189
Victor Martinez DET 1B 1B 13 549 81 15 86 1 0.302
David Robertson CHA RP RP 13 65 3 41 2.42 1.03 85
Koji Uehara BOS RP RP 13 65 5 37 2.59 1.01 73
Jedd Gyorko SD 2B 2B 13 514 66 24 69 3 0.246
Dustin Pedroia BOS 2B 2B 13 547 84 11 66 13 0.291
J.D. Martinez DET OF OF 12 529 69 17 80 7 0.277
Avisail Garcia CHA OF OF 12 541 83 18 87 14 0.261
Francisco Liriano PIT SP SP 11 155 12 0 3.52 1.26 161
Yordano Ventura KC SP SP 11 203 12 0 3.41 1.26 173
Collin McHugh HOU SP SP 11 187 10 0 3.35 1.19 184
Chris Archer TB SP SP 11 197 9 0 3.47 1.26 182
Ryan Zimmerman WAS 1B/3B/OF 1B/3B/OF 11 515 67 21 79 3 0.284
Manny Machado BAL 3B 3B 11 538 79 16 64 7 0.285
Drew Hutchison TOR SP SP 11 202 13 0 3.72 1.24 197
Cody Allen CLE RP RP 11 70 5 38 2.42 1.09 80
Trevor Rosenthal STL RP RP 10 70 4 39 2.59 1.16 87
Drew Storen WAS RP RP 10 65 3 41 2.57 1.05 62
Khris Davis MIL OF OF 10 522 81 28 86 5 0.255
A.J. Pollock ARI OF OF 10 510 78 14 61 20 0.272
Chris Carter HOU 1B 1B/OF 10 512 61 30 74 3 0.219
Brandon Moss CLE 1B/OF 1B/OF 10 503 69 23 84 1 0.238
Leonys Martin TEX OF OF 10 519 77 12 51 31 0.262
Jean Segura MIL SS SS 10 537 69 10 50 35 0.272
Gregory Polanco PIT OF OF 10 496 68 14 59 25 0.267
Jimmy Rollins LAN SS SS 10 569 89 11 61 21 0.247
Elvis Andrus TEX SS SS 10 609 81 5 49 29 0.274
Alcides Escobar KC SS SS 10 598 84 4 41 28 0.271
Neil Walker PIT 2B 2B 10 514 72 17 77 2 0.270
Howie Kendrick LAN 2B 2B 9 597 77 11 81 12 0.288
Daniel Murphy NYN 2B/3B 2B/3B 9 592 82 10 58 10 0.284
Drew Smyly TB SP SP 9 183 10 0 3.38 1.14 162
Michael Pineda NYA SP SP 9 162 10 0 3.42 1.12 151
Oswaldo Arcia MIN OF OF 9 503 65 27 68 3 0.242
Lorenzo Cain KC OF OF 9 498 74 8 77 23 0.274
Mookie Betts BOS OF 2B/OF 9 489 68 9 37 18 0.292
Justin Morneau COL 1B 1B 9 512 65 19 77 0 0.286
Kris Bryant CHN 3B 3B 9 427 42 19 54 3 0.256
Adam LaRoche CHA 1B 1B 9 504 71 21 82 2 0.247
Mark Trumbo ARI 1B/OF 1B/OF 9 521 65 29 80 2 0.241
Chase Headley NYA 3B 1B/3B 9 503 67 16 71 6 0.274
Matt Carpenter STL 3B 3B 9 545 87 12 77 3 0.281
Gio Gonzalez WAS SP SP 8 194 14 0 3.46 1.25 186
James Shields SD SP SP 8 220 13 0 3.42 1.18 181
Lance Lynn STL SP SP 8 202 14 0 3.60 1.28 186
Melky Cabrera CHA OF OF 8 521 85 14 65 8 0.304
Garrett Richards LAA SP SP 8 170 10 0 3.39 1.21 155
Alex Rios KC OF OF 8 509 72 14 67 20 0.274
Shin-Soo Choo TEX OF OF 8 539 77 15 49 10 0.271
Joc Pederson LAN OF OF 8 492 66 15 59 19 0.247
Steven Souza TB OF OF 8 515 58 12 65 22 0.234
Matt Adams STL 1B 1B 8 484 62 21 74 2 0.279
Kennys Vargas MIN DH 1B 8 504 74 25 83 0 0.251
Dellin Betances NYA RP RP 8 70 4 28 2.28 1.02 96
Brandon Belt SF 1B 1B 8 515 74 18 79 5 0.278
Jake Peavy SF SP SP 8 192 12 0 3.57 1.22 152
Jose Quintana CHA SP SP 7 202 13 0 3.51 1.26 175
Nick Castellanos DET 3B 3B 7 539 62 14 71 4 0.264
Jered Weaver LAA SP SP 7 195 12 0 3.75 1.26 151
Alex Cobb TB SP SP 7 160 9 0 3.67 1.18 139
Hyun-Jin Ryu LAN SP SP 7 150 10 0 3.59 1.23 132
Scooter Gennett MIL 2B 2B 7 468 67 14 73 8 0.271
Jose Ramirez CLE SS 2B/SS 7 486 72 6 54 24 0.279
Chris Owings ARI 2B/SS 2B/SS 7 512 61 10 64 17 0.270
Rougned Odor TEX 2B 2B 7 491 58 13 65 16 0.249
Brett Lawrie OAK 2B/3B 2B/3B 7 487 54 14 62 6 0.267
Chase Utley PHI 2B 2B 7 510 66 10 69 10 0.263
Ben Zobrist OAK 2B/SS/OF 2B/SS/OF 7 517 77 12 49 10 0.268
Dallas Keuchel HOU SP SP 7 204 11 0 3.81 1.27 140
Jake Odorizzi TB SP SP 7 209 10 0 3.83 1.30 181
Andrew Cashner SD SP SP 7 148 9 0 3.11 1.18 117
Shelby Miller ATL SP SP 7 203 12 0 3.52 1.23 152
Evan Gattis HOU C C 7 514 67 27 81 0 0.251
Yan Gomes CLE C C 7 472 58 19 70 1 0.271
Devin Mesoraco CIN C C 7 497 56 19 78 2 0.252
Salvador Perez KC C C 6 521 58 14 74 1 0.286
Asdrubal Cabrera TB 2B/SS 2B/SS 6 533 67 15 63 11 0.246
Josh Harrison PIT 3B/OF 2B/3B/OF 6 487 71 7 57 17 0.267
Wily Peralta MIL SP SP 6 195 12 0 3.68 1.28 162
A.J. Burnett PIT SP SP 6 191 12 0 3.87 1.31 182
Nathan Eovaldi NYA SP SP 6 206 10 0 3.73 1.31 148
Mark Melancon PIT RP RP 6 70 4 36 2.39 1.03 70
Glen Perkins MIN RP RP 6 59 3 35 2.62 1.10 62
Fernando Rodney SEA RP RP 6 65 2 41 3.35 1.21 68
Francisco Rodriguez MIL RP RP 6 62 3 40 3.38 1.09 64
Steve Cishek MIA RP RP 6 67 2 36 2.76 1.16 73
Joaquin Benoit SD RP RP 6 63 4 34 2.99 1.03 70
Huston Street LAA RP RP 6 55 3 37 2.34 1.05 53
Jonathan Papelbon PHI RP RP 6 65 3 35 2.56 1.09 63
Brett Cecil TOR RP RP 6 61 2 33 2.91 1.22 73
Domonic Brown PHI OF OF 6 488 61 20 74 8 0.262
Marlon Byrd CIN OF OF 6 529 67 21 78 3 0.251
Torii Hunter MIN OF OF 6 512 70 14 73 4 0.277
Jayson Werth WAS OF OF 6 478 68 14 79 5 0.272
Rick Porcello BOS SP SP 6 208 14 0 3.91 1.29 121
Homer Bailey CIN SP SP 6 204 10 0 3.58 1.22 159
Kenley Jansen LAN RP RP 6 42 2 24 2.34 1.03 51
Jason Hammel CHN SP SP 6 170 9 0 3.67 1.22 151
Chris Tillman BAL SP SP 6 205 12 0 3.70 1.27 155
Anibal Sanchez DET SP SP 6 172 12 0 3.59 1.17 139
Wei-Yin Chen BAL SP SP 5 198 12 0 3.69 1.26 142
Jesse Hahn OAK SP SP 5 145 9 0 3.58 1.24 137
James Paxton SEA SP SP 5 176 10 0 3.49 1.28 158
Taijuan Walker SEA SP SP 5 122 10 0 3.15 1.26 112
Andrew Miller NYA RP RP 3 64 6 11 2.47 1.02 97
Michael Wacha STL SP SP 5 150 9 0 3.31 1.22 134
Jimmy Nelson MIL SP SP 5 175 8 0 3.66 1.32 157
Andrew Heaney LAA SP SP 5 190 9 0 3.89 1.28 155
Trevor Bauer CLE SP SP 5 189 11 0 3.94 1.35 183
Kevin Gausman BAL SP/RP SP/RP 5 181 9 0 3.42 1.29 168
Brandon Phillips CIN 2B 2B 5 475 64 10 67 3 0.251
Carlos Martinez STL SP SP 5 138 8 0 3.09 1.27 124
Erick Aybar LAA SS SS 5 570 68 8 65 17 0.272
Zach Britton BAL RP RP 5 70 2 31 3.39 1.19 58
Hector Rondon CHN RP RP 4 61 2 28 3.41 1.09 62
Santiago Casilla SF RP RP 5 56 2 30 2.33 1.01 42
Luke Gregerson HOU RP RP 4 65 4 28 3.19 1.05 59
Tyler Clippard OAK RP RP 4 67 3 26 2.61 1.02 69
Neftali Feliz TEX RP RP 4 62 2 29 3.01 1.19 53
Joe Nathan DET RP RP 4 60 4 31 4.15 1.32 57
LaTroy Hawkins COL RP RP 4 57 3 29 3.87 1.24 36
Addison Reed ARI RP RP 4 64 2 30 4.07 1.19 67
Jake McGee TB RP RP 4 49 2 22 2.67 1.06 55
Jenrry Mejia NYN RP RP 4 79 4 22 3.50 1.19 82
Matt Wieters BAL C C 4 491 55 18 69 2 0.254
Ken Giles PHI RP RP 4 62 3 12 2.09 0.98 83
Wilson Ramos WAS C C 4 435 58 18 66 0 0.262
Andrelton Simmons ATL SS SS 3 551 61 13 67 5 0.262
Jhonny Peralta STL SS SS 3 517 58 17 67 3 0.250
Jeremy Hellickson ARI SP SP 3 175 11 0 3.71 1.31 142
Ian Kennedy SD SP SP 3 204 12 0 3.87 1.31 167
Mike Minor ATL SP SP 3 172 10 0 3.89 1.26 142
Justin Verlander DET SP SP 3 201 14 0 3.97 1.35 162
CC Sabathia NYA SP SP 3 202 13 0 4.04 1.39 171
Doug Fister WAS SP SP 3 190 13 0 3.59 1.27 129
Billy Butler OAK 1B 1B 3 571 75 16 86 1 0.297
Michael Morse MIA 1B/OF 1B/OF 3 459 56 18 62 0 0.262
Trevor Plouffe MIN 3B 3B 3 475 61 15 77 2 0.251
Aramis Ramirez MIL 3B 3B 3 462 51 14 60 2 0.278
Mike Moustakas KC 3B 3B 3 472 55 19 63 2 0.226
Pedro Alvarez PIT 1B/3B 1B/3B 3 424 54 22 59 4 0.229
Brian McCann NYA C C/1B 3 456 52 20 69 0 0.248
Jonathan Lucroy MIL C C/1B 3 492 69 12 61 5 0.291
Yadier Molina STL C C 3 466 64 10 72 3 0.291
Travis d’Arnaud NYN C C 3 472 60 19 71 1 0.237
Mike Zunino SEA C C 3 451 54 20 63 0 0.211
Yasmani Grandal LAN C/1B C/1B 3 428 53 17 64 2 0.231
Steve Pearce BAL 1B/2B/OF 1B/2B/OF 3 497 61 15 72 3 0.264
Sean Doolittle OAK RP RP 3 22 1 8 3.67 1.20 20
Joel Peralta LAN RP RP 2 66 4 9 3.03 1.10 76
Kendrys Morales KC 1B 1B 2 499 60 18 74 0 0.249
Michael Cuddyer NYN OF 1B/OF 2 427 62 15 68 4 0.272
Joe Mauer MIN 1B 1B 2 477 70 11 61 4 0.292
Mike Napoli BOS 1B 1B 2 472 58 19 64 3 0.235
Curtis Granderson NYN OF OF 2 488 68 22 72 7 0.229
Carlos Beltran NYA OF OF 2 459 62 17 68 4 0.257
Nick Markakis ATL OF OF 2 577 84 15 54 5 0.269
Desmond Jennings TB OF OF 2 552 71 10 41 20 0.247
Nori Aoki SF OF OF 2 537 74 8 39 20 0.287
Dexter Fowler CHN OF OF 2 520 89 13 48 15 0.252
Rajai Davis DET OF OF 2 423 54 5 49 35 0.269
Ben Revere PHI OF OF 2 585 68 1 31 35 0.298
Anthony Gose DET OF OF 1 438 59 4 22 28 0.231
Marcus Semien OAK 2B/SS/3B 2B/SS/3B 1 494 66 13 61 10 0.228
Denard Span WAS OF OF 1 534 81 2 24 22 0.279
Jace Peterson ATL 2B 2B/3B 1 501 57 4 44 25 0.262
Devon Travis TOR 2B 2B 1 466 57 9 62 11 0.262
Jonathan Schoop BAL 2B 2B/3B 1 519 61 19 64 4 0.242
Micah Johnson CHA 2B 2B 1 378 42 4 46 26 0.245
Joe Panik SF 2B 2B 1 538 79 6 52 6 0.262
Brad Miller SEA SS 2B/SS 1 440 44 12 50 6 0.244
Nick Franklin TB 2B 2B/SS 1 497 52 14 56 8 0.229
Arismendy Alcantara CHN 2B/OF 2B/OF 1 402 47 12 56 17 0.221
Yangervis Solarte SD 1B/2B/3B 1B/2B/ SS/3B/OF 1 513 64 8 44 3 0.267
Martin Prado MIA 2B/3B 2B/3B/OF 1 491 58 10 67 3 0.262
Mark Teixeira NYA 1B 1B 1 484 62 18 70 1 0.239
Ryan Howard PHI 1B 1B 1 471 58 20 77 0 0.217
James Loney TB 1B 1B 1 513 58 10 66 3 0.285
Logan Morrison SEA 1B 1B/OF 1 489 58 15 67 3 0.249
Nick Hundley COL C C 1 422 51 15 58 0 0.254
Hank Conger HOU C C 1 403 48 15 62 2 0.251
Brad Boxberger TB RP RP 0 72 4 9 2.10 1.03 103
Alex Rodriguez NYA 3B 3B 0 427 52 15 56 3 0.249
David Freese LAA 3B 3B 0 477 58 12 62 1 0.252
Brandon McCarthy LAN SP SP 0 174 11 0 3.66 1.24 141
C.J. Wilson LAA SP SP 0 194 13 0 3.91 1.36 155
Yovani Gallardo TEX SP SP 0 190 10 0 3.82 1.33 142
Matt Cain SF SP SP 0 195 9 0 3.93 1.26 151
Matt Garza MIL SP SP 0 170 12 0 3.78 1.24 135
Dan Haren MIA SP SP 0 198 11 0 3.98 1.24 135
Justin Masterson BOS SP SP 0 175 11 0 4.02 1.32 145
Alfredo Simon DET SP SP 0 165 11 0 4.17 1.33 109
R.A. Dickey TOR SP SP 0 210 13 0 4.18 1.25 159
Russell Martin TOR C C 0 489 53 13 69 6 0.248
Miguel Montero CHN C C 0 477 45 14 62 0 0.238
Robinson Chirinos TEX C C 0 445 41 15 52 0 0.246
Derek Norris SD C C 0 455 50 12 59 4 0.252
Stephen Vogt OAK C/1B C/1B/OF 0 417 56 11 52 2 0.288
Juan Lagares NYN OF OF 0 534 77 8 42 22 0.277
Rusney Castillo BOS OF OF 0 327 45 6 41 18 0.290
Michael Saunders TOR OF OF 0 412 54 13 58 12 0.249
Adam Eaton CHA OF OF 0 551 80 5 38 20 0.281
Dalton Pompey TOR OF OF -1 386 54 5 51 31 0.247
Emilio Bonifacio CHA 2B/OF 2B/3B/OF -1 412 48 2 46 25 0.248
Coco Crisp OAK OF OF -1 375 57 6 30 16 0.251
Omar Infante KC 2B 2B -1 487 59 8 65 7 0.259
Jordy Mercer PIT SS SS -1 445 58 13 56 5 0.262
Jung-ho Kang PIT SS/3B SS/3B -1 429 48 16 54 3 0.242
Adam Lind MIL 1B 1B -1 388 44 14 56 1 0.257
C.J. Cron LAA 1B 1B -1 390 42 16 48 2 0.278
Lonnie Chisenhall CLE 3B 1B/3B -1 385 42 11 47 2 0.259
Chris Johnson ATL 3B 3B -1 572 51 9 60 4 0.274
Brandon Morrow SD SP SP -1 125 5 0 3.17 1.21 112
Scott Kazmir OAK SP SP -1 150 10 0 3.48 1.27 133
David Phelps MIA SP SP -1 130 6 0 3.57 1.26 116
Brett Anderson LAN SP SP -1 115 7 0 3.06 1.12 79
Jose Fernandez MIA SP SP -1 75 4 0 3.04 1.06 78
Darren O’Day BAL RP RP -1 65 4 8 2.27 1.02 67
Bobby Parnell NYN RP RP -1 35 1 12 3.01 1.21 30
Joakim Soria DET RP RP -1 63 4 10 3.03 1.06 65
Ryan Cook OAK RP RP -1 61 4 9 3.17 1.12 59
Pat Neshek HOU RP RP -1 61 5 7 3.30 1.07 59
Wade Davis KC RP RP -1 70 7 2 1.91 0.91 105
Joe Smith LAA RP RP -1 66 6 9 3.17 1.18 62
Tony Watson PIT RP RP -1 74 6 4 1.88 0.99 79
Sergio Romo SF RP RP -1 60 5 8 3.51 1.05 62
Michael Taylor WAS OF OF -1 398 48 12 46 14 0.217
Josh Reddick OAK OF OF -1 478 67 17 72 4 0.238
Angel Pagan SF OF OF -1 438 67 5 37 20 0.272
Austin Jackson SEA OF OF -1 534 79 6 39 18 0.250
Shane Victorino BOS OF OF -1 412 61 7 31 17 0.262
Juan Uribe LAN 3B 3B -2 409 47 10 52 2 0.261
Michael Bourn CLE OF OF -2 445 72 2 34 17 0.249
Nick Swisher CLE 1B 1B/OF -2 430 52 15 54 0 0.212
Kris Medlen KC SP SP -2 86 6 0 3.42 1.25 68
Patrick Corbin ARI SP SP -2 92 4 0 3.66 1.24 72
Matt Moore TB SP SP -2 134 7 0 4.23 1.41 120
Brandon Beachy LAN SP SP -2 75 8 0 3.52 1.22 61
Yusmeiro Petit SF SP/RP SP/RP -2 120 7 0 3.80 1.10 122
Aaron Sanchez TOR SP SP -2 150 6 0 4.22 1.38 134
Noah Syndergaard NYN SP SP -2 100 6 0 3.61 1.29 89
T.J. House CLE SP SP -2 170 9 0 3.87 1.35 132
Hector Santiago LAA SP SP -2 156 8 0 3.62 1.32 129
Archie Bradley ARI SP SP -2 165 7 0 3.96 1.42 140
Danny Salazar CLE SP SP -2 120 6 0 3.76 1.28 128
Jarrod Saltalamacchia FA C C -2 401 49 16 58 1 0.215
Wilin Rosario COL C/1B C/1B -2 312 38 12 44 1 0.278
Jason Castro HOU C C -2 386 46 12 50 1 0.239
Christian Vazquez BOS C C -2 361 47 6 51 3 0.252
Tyler Flowers CHA C C -2 397 46 16 53 2 0.203
Alex Avila DET C C -2 382 42 10 48 2 0.212
Rene Rivera TB C C -2 381 39 10 42 0 0.244
DJ LeMahieu COL 2B 2B/3B -2 480 62 7 56 12 0.262
Casey McGehee SF 3B 3B -2 507 57 6 61 3 0.261
Cody Asche PHI 3B 3B -2 411 52 9 54 2 0.248
Wilmer Flores NYN SS 2B/SS -2 437 48 12 52 4 0.277
Javier Baez CHN 2B/SS 2B/SS -2 318 38 12 40 8 0.198
Brandon Crawford SF SS SS -2 495 55 10 59 5 0.247
J.J. Hardy BAL SS SS -2 502 60 17 63 0 0.248
Zack Cozart CIN SS SS -2 512 51 12 57 6 0.245
Jed Lowrie HOU SS SS -2 509 54 14 58 2 0.242
Alexi Amarista SD 2B/SS/ 3B/OF 2B/SS/ 3B/OF -2 389 48 3 45 16 0.239
Francisco Lindor FA SS SS -2 397 51 6 39 22 0.271
Addison Russell CHN SS SS -2 250 44 8 39 4 0.282
Johnny Giavotella LAA 2B 2B -2 480 58 6 41 13 0.247
Josh Rutledge LAA SS 2B/SS/3B -2 364 32 6 38 6 0.252
Mark Reynolds STL 1B/3B 1B/3B/OF -2 366 39 16 43 4 0.217
Garrett Jones NYA 1B 1B/OF -2 424 44 12 52 2 0.252
Justin Smoak TOR 1B 1B -2 398 58 21 67 0 0.212
Jon Singleton HOU 1B 1B -2 313 31 15 39 1 0.238
Tanner Roark WAS SP/RP SP/RP -2 84 7 1 2.16 1.01 59
Dustin Ackley SEA OF OF -2 489 61 12 63 7 0.250
Travis Snider BAL OF OF -2 427 56 17 64 1 0.248
Ryan Rua TEX 1B 1B/OF -2 473 54 15 61 6 0.249
Colby Rasmus HOU OF OF -2 487 58 22 62 3 0.231
Carl Crawford LAN OF OF -2 397 52 6 30 20 0.288
Drew Stubbs COL OF OF -2 375 47 12 45 15 0.249
Jake Marisnick HOU OF OF -2 391 42 7 41 16 0.231
Alejandro De Aza BAL OF OF -2 398 52 7 27 19 0.262
David Peralta ARI OF OF -2 390 46 11 39 7 0.281
Jordan Schafer MIN OF OF -2 389 48 2 42 28 0.221
Seth Smith SEA OF OF -2 375 57 12 46 1 0.258
Danny Duffy KC SP SP -2 170 11 0 3.86 1.31 144
Rubby de la Rosa ARI SP SP -3 190 9 0 3.87 1.34 161
Shane Greene DET SP SP -3 150 9 0 3.91 1.42 141
Alex Colome TB SP SP -3 145 7 0 3.81 1.33 117
Daniel Norris TOR SP SP -3 90 6 0 3.27 1.29 84
Mike Foltynewicz ATL SP SP -3 135 9 0 4.01 1.42 122
Allen Webster ARI SP SP -3 150 10 0 4.31 1.41 110
Chase Anderson ARI SP SP -3 117 7 0 4.24 1.35 95
Matthew Wisler SD SP SP -3 100 5 0 3.42 1.21 87
Kyle Gibson MIN SP SP -3 190 10 0 4.11 1.33 119
Drew Pomeranz OAK SP SP -3 140 8 0 3.89 1.31 126
Alex Meyer MIN SP SP -3 75 4 0 4.19 1.39 67
Dan Straily HOU SP SP -3 165 11 0 4.01 1.32 136
Kendall Graveman OAK SP SP -3 120 9 0 4.32 1.28 94
Jarred Cosart MIA SP SP -3 194 12 0 4.18 1.38 125
Everth Cabrera BAL SS SS -3 375 36 2 17 20 0.242
Didi Gregorius NYA SS 2B/SS -3 424 42 8 54 5 0.251
Adeiny Hechavarria MIA SS SS -3 497 42 3 48 9 0.241
Stephen Drew NYA 2B/SS 2B/SS -2 380 57 7 61 3 0.234
Yunel Escobar WAS SS/3B SS/3B -3 455 50 6 54 2 0.249
Jose Iglesias DET SS SS -3 478 53 3 47 7 0.251
Freddy Galvis PHI SS 2B/SS/3B -3 464 46 4 49 6 0.221
Chris Iannetta LAA C C -3 340 44 12 49 3 0.232
John Jaso TB C C -3 331 43 7 41 2 0.260
Kurt Suzuki MIN C C -3 319 40 4 51 1 0.262
Carlos Ruiz PHI C C -3 364 43 7 40 2 0.255
Mitch Moreland TEX 1B 1B -3 334 52 12 60 1 0.238
Ike Davis OAK 1B 1B -3 356 48 15 54 2 0.225
Yonder Alonso SD 1B 1B -3 369 48 9 53 5 0.252
Justin Ruggiano SEA OF OF -3 317 48 9 39 4 0.258
Chris Coghlan CHN OF OF -3 377 56 7 38 10 0.261
Dayan Viciedo FA OF OF -3 372 51 18 54 0 0.259
Melvin Upton SD OF OF -3 378 38 9 42 19 0.222
Eric Young ATL OF OF -3 311 46 2 19 27 0.245
Junior Lake CHN OF OF -3 337 45 12 42 9 0.263
Alex Presley FA OF OF -3 356 42 12 39 8 0.271
Maikel Franco PHI 3B 1B/3B -3 400 44 14 48 2 0.248
Joey Gallo TEX 3B 3B -3 150 27 9 36 2 0.210
Brandon League LAN RP RP -3 60 5 4 3.67 1.42 35
Wade Miley BOS SP SP -3 203 13 0 3.92 1.34 178
Tim Lincecum SF SP SP -3 145 10 0 4.14 1.38 134
Henderson Alvarez MIA SP SP -4 155 10 0 3.69 1.29 96
Edinson Volquez KC SP SP -4 180 10 0 4.24 1.40 136
Ross Detwiler TEX SP SP -4 175 11 0 4.44 1.40 102
John Lackey STL SP SP -4 184 10 0 4.03 1.32 149
Josh Hamilton TEX OF OF -4 275 31 8 36 1 0.242
Jordan Walden STL RP RP -4 58 1 5 2.56 1.15 62
Jonathan Broxton MIL RP RP -4 60 3 2 3.52 1.12 54
Brad Ziegler ARI RP RP -4 69 4 4 3.24 1.22 56

From Around The Web

  1. Troy says:
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    Kyle Seager is gonna break a lot of records if he hits .999 lol. Great stuff grey, Always love ur stuff. Same with everyone who writes for razzball.

    • Grey

      Grey says:
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      @Troy: Thanks for pointing that out, will fix the typo…

      • troy says:
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        @Grey: srry was trying to be funny… honest mistake

  2. Todd says:
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    You really down on machado that much this year? I know he had a bad injury but looks like he will be healthy. Really just have him in a keeper for $1 and want to be confident with him as my 3b, as confident as I was last year when I traded longo away bc I had machado step up

    • shibboleth says:
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      @Todd: I think Machado will be a better real-life player for a few more years before he takes off in fantasyland. Keeping for a dollar is awesome, but there are some health and consistency issues to be aware of.

    • BigSloppyMacDaddy says:
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      @Todd: it’s the “counting your chickens” theory

      • Todd says:
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        @BigSloppyMacDaddy: well I figured I wasn’t keeping longo at $35 + 5 anyways, the question remains do I draft another 3b or see how machado plays out?

        • Dead Heads says:
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          @Todd: Keep Machado, I don’t see him being any worse then he was last year, and he’s guaranteed playing time every day because of his stellar defense. He might get a day off or two to start the season because of the injury, but honestly I don’t get why everyone is so down on him. He’s in a great ballpark, and he’s only going to get stronger/more comfortable in the majors. I could see his power output taking a step forward this season if anything, and he generally helps in all categories hitting in a good spot in a strong lineup.

          • goodfold2 says:
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            @Dead Heads: terrible walk rate. when he was very useful it was mostly BABIP driven.

  3. Aaron says:
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    You have joe Mauer at 212. I repeat you have jor Mauer at 212, nothing you say can be taken seriously because you have the future al batting champ at 212.

    • Ra'zball Al Ghul says:
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      @Aaron: MacDaddy is that you?

    • Ra'zball Al Ghul says:
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      @Aaron: take away the batting average the last couple years and mauer gives waiver wire stats for every other category

      • BigSloppyMacDaddy says:
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        @Ra’zball Al Ghul: just like removing the home runs from Stanton. BOO ya!

        • J-FOH says:
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          @BigSloppyMacDaddy: HR are more scarce than Avg so you’re an idiot

        • Ra'zball Al Ghul says:
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          @BigSloppyMacDaddy: I don’t want anything to do with Stanton personally. Too many Ks and too big a disparity between BABIPs and batting averages, makes me think he will never put it all together.

          • J-FOH says:
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            @Ra’zball Al Ghul: I willnever say never on a player, if he’s there at the end of the 3rd round I have to take him. It’s all about draft day value. Are you paying for your pick or are you getting a good deal. It’s like buying a car, some dealers drop the price far more than others and you can’t pas it up. Some drafts will give you that

            • Ra'zball Al Ghul says:
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              @J-FOH: fair enough

            • costaricanchata says:
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              @J-FOH:

              not buying the car analogy .

              • J-FOH says:
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                @costaricanchata: it’s like different dealers are like different drafts, the prices change from draft to draft like dealer to dealer

          • Charlie says:
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            @Ra’zball Al Ghul:

            He’s only 24. You don’t see him growing into a better hitter? Also once he’s off the Marlins his value will sky rocket with competent talent around him. In a keeper league I’m considering him with my second round pick. Also keep in mind 30 players have been removed from the draft (10 teams x 3 players per team).

            So I’m looking at the likes of Stanton, Wright, Pujols, Bautista at my pick. Strongly considering Stanton.

      • Hawk says:
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        @Ra’zball Al Ghul:

        Take away his one great season and his average stat line is:

        .317 / 9 / 60 / 65

        • BigSloppyMacDaddy says:
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          @Hawk: lol take out one year and no adjustment for games played….great analysis.

          • Hawk says:
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            @BigSloppyMacDaddy:

            Ok, you want to have fun? Lets have some fun:

            Joe Mauer career stats minus the one excellent year he had and 2004 where he only played 35 games. I even prorated stats for him for the half season he played in 2011:

            Year: AVG / HR / RBI / R
            2005: .295 / 9 / 55 / 61
            2006: .347 / 13 / 84 / 86
            2007: .293 / 7 / 60 / 62
            2008: .328 / 9 / 85 / 98
            2010: .327 / 9 / 75 / 88
            2011: .287 / 3/ 30 / 38 (82 games – prorates to 6 / 60 / 76)
            2012: .319 / 10 / 85 / 81
            2013: .324 / 11 / 47 / 62

            Batting average for these years: .317
            Average HR (including prorated adjustment for 2011): 9.25
            Average RBI (including prorated adjustment for 2011): 68.875
            Average R (including prorated adjustment for 2011) : 76.75

            .317 / 9 / 68 / 76

            Helps you in BA, hurts you in HR, RBI and SB. Neutral in R.

            212 is about right.

            • Sky

              Sky says:
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              He’s not worth it, Hawk. He ‘respects the site’. That’s why he shows up to rip on it daily. That said…nice work!

              • goodfold2 says:
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                @Sky: yr right sky, but’s fun to see if he’d talk himself into huge line of b.s. Just like being back in Phil school.

    • Mike says:
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      @Aaron: Mauer at 212 looks pretty good. He’s a great hitter but look at the lineup around him. There may not be another player that hits higher than .260 or has an OBP higher than .320! His counting stats are going to be brutal.

  4. gareth says:
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    Joe mauer at 221 stood out for me. I saw some experts draft the other day where he was taken in the 3rd round. Experts? Hah!

    Seeing Cole hamels so low was also a bit jarring. I get it though. Injury concern, that ballpark and the Phillies are pretty bad.

    I do think bunching Chapman. Kimbrel and kenley together seems incomplete without Greg Holland. With perez, Wilson and others breathing down Jansens neck, Holland may actually be the safer pick. Hes elite, has job security and I hate to say it – I think Kansas Will make some noise this year.and give him alot of save opportunities.

    I also noticed that pitching is deep.

    Nice work grey!

    • HWY68 says:
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      @gareth:

      Word on KC. That bullpen is filthy.

      Tons of elite closers this year. Chapman stands out, though — his new manager digs multi-inning saves.

    • Cram It says:
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      @gareth: Annnnnnd let the hair splitting commence…

    • Cram It says:
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      @gareth: Holland is the next RP off the board. If you really want a reliever and Kimbrell, Chapman and Jansen are gone and you DON’T take Holland simply because he’s not ranked in the same tier of relivers, you probably shouldn’t be playing fantasy baseball

      • BigSloppyMacDaddy says:
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        @Cram It: who exactly are you to tell someone that they shouldn’t play fantasy baseball?

    • BigSloppyMacDaddy says:
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      @gareth: yes, “experts”….we’re all experts now using the methods of Bill James and Ron Shandler to forecast players.

        • BigSloppyMacDaddy says:
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          @Sky: I refuse to click that link. I think you’re trying to put spyware on my computer…

          • Sky

            Sky says:
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            Nah just doing what we do around here: remind you of what you say vs what you do

              • J-FOH says:
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                @BigSloppyMacDaddy: what does another writer have to do with YOUR opinions?

              • Count de Monetball says:
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                @BigSloppyMacDaddy: MacDaddy/Bill and whatever names you change to tomorrow, I will just call you Troll

                If you want to scream from the rooftops about Grey and Rudy’s finish in the tout wars (15-team mixed) and LABR. Just say what you are thinking and be done with it. Those are two prestigious FBB leagues, and the creators of this website have earned the right to compete in these leagues, how about you, are you a writer for another website that has earned the right? Grey and Rudy have earned the reputation and credentials to be worthy of these top tiered fantasy leagues. IF they finished first or last in a top tier league, they are still in a top league and I am not. Thus their knowledge, credentials, and skill are well above those of the average blogger’s and mine. You put the top 15 people in the world at anything in a competition against each other, someone will finish first and someone 15th. That’s how competitions work. The team that finishes 15th could still be considered 15th in the WORLD for THAT SEASON ONLY. It is estimated that 32 million played fantasy sports in 2010 in Canada and the US combined. If Grey and Rudy were the 15th Best of 32 Million, I would still read this site every day and utilize the information here (as well as receive a large amount of entertainment value). In fantasy baseball, one season is a small sample size, but of course you know all about small sample size. Grey and Rudy are providing entertainment and a roadmap to success, which they have done for me personally. Further, they are providing this service and entertainment value for FREE to anybody.
                You’re Welcome!

                • BigSloppyMacDaddy says:
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                  @Count de Monetball: I didn’t read this. My attention span is too short.

                    • SwaggerJackers says:
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                      @Prez: Woohoo! Our very own RazzTroll! We made it guys!

                    • goodfold2 says:
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                      @Prez: he’s trying to bring those espn message boards over here.

  5. Wallpaper Paterson says:
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    I stated in the fall I would pass on fantasy baseball in 2014. I have not yet changed my mind. Rotisserie is boring. I was in three RCLs (I think) and half the people didn’t bother to do anything after July. Head-to-head can be ridiculous when you dominate the regular season and Carlos Torres becomes your ace come playoff time due to mass injuries and shut downs to your staff (this happened to me in my NL-only league). The fun factor went out the window for me in 2013. Any way to bring that back and get me excited for fantasy baseball this year or ever?

    • HWY68 says:
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      @Wallpaper Paterson:

      You hit burnout. Take a year off fantasy sports & report back next preseason.

      • kingforaday151 says:
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        @HWY68: Enough crazy talk HWY68… Change your format up, get in an auction league or a keeper league and put some $ at stake. Way too much goes in to an auction draft or keeper/dynasty league to quit in July.

        • Cram It says:
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          @Wallpaper Paterson: @kingforaday151: Seriously, get some friends, and put some money on it. Auction drafts, points leagues….I stopped doing public leagues for free along time ago.

          • Wallpaper Paterson says:
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            @Cram It: Thanks. I have done auction leagues in the past. I enjoyed them. We had a good keeper league going but one of the league members was a trash talking nut and there were some prudes in the league. The whole thing fell apart.
            A money league with an auction could get me back into action.

        • HWY68 says:
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          @kingforaday151:

          True. Cash might cure everything — even Wallpaper Paterson’s fantasy funk.

          The best leagues — roto, h2h, whatever — are always the money leagues.

          • kingforaday151 says:
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            @HWY68: Could even use wagers other than cash, but anything’s better than no fantasy baseball. Without it you wouldn’t need Razzball all summer, and if not for Grey’s daily blurb there’d be little reason to wake up at all!

    • costaricanchata says:
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      @Wallpaper Paterson:

      yeah .
      rcl ‘s are tough .
      all the cool kids rushing to sign-up
      and then , when they realize that you have to feed the puppy
      every day , they abandon it by the side of the road .
      but it’s not just espn .
      it’s all public/free leagues .
      it takes time , determination , and pride
      to play 162 games of fantasy baseball .
      otherwise , go play 15 days of football .
      you would hope that there would be some way to
      weed out the repeat offenders , but the policing efforts
      are too cumbersome , i suspect , especially for
      guys walking the “donation” tightrope .

      as for the “boring” part ,
      are you forgetting the late-night humor around here ?

    • mauledbypandas says:
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      @HWY68: @Wallpaper Paterson: Money usually does it for me. If they pay up and quit in July… well I will have fun reminding them how I spend their money.

    • J-FOH says:
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      @Wallpaper Paterson: we’ll try to get you into a good RCL this year. I’m going to try and organize some frequent commenter leagues so we can get some razzball regulars together and really have a good time this year. You have always been a solid commenter and don’t like seeing you all bummed out.

      • de nachos says:
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        @J-FOH: If you have room to include a solid lurker with the solid commenters in an RCL, holler. it’s not in my DNA to quit on fantasy leagues. It was my personal vision quest to defeat Sky in RCL last summer – I failed – and he had little idea that he was my white whale.

        • J-FOH says:
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          @de nachos: I’m working with jaywrong as we speak to set that up

          • Nick says:
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            @J-FOH: I’d be up for that! I only do one RCL per year, so might as well make it a good one!

            • Bombo Rivera says:
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              @Nick: I just missed catching Big Magoo in the Champions’ League last year, and I’d like to find an active RCL this year. Plus, I’d like to match wits with the Podcast King again.

  6. Rabbit says:
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    What type of league are the auction dollar values for? A 10 or 12-team ESPN head-to-head? Any way to alter them to fit different style leagues, esp. leagues with more owners?
    Thanks.

    • Grey

      Grey says:
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      @Rabbit: Rudy will have dollar values for different size leagues…

  7. ML says:
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    Keyshawn seems really low given your projections.

    • ML says:
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      @ML: kershaw*

      • Cram It says:
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        @ML: Please see every other post where someone asks why ‘so and so’ is ranked so high/low even though their projected stats would suggest otherwise.

        • ML says:
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          @Cram It: and where could I find that? Does said post explain how kershaws value the past 2(maybe 3 yrs) has been first round worthy? Or that he’s been more reliable than at least half a dozen of the guys ranked ahead of him? Or how the implied value from the projections is greater than most of those ranked ahead of him here?

          This is a ranking list. If you’re not expecting a debate than you can cram it. This isn’t similar to where grey mentions alcides/Martin. You got a guy who’s past and likely future warrants top 5 consideration, at an implied rank nearing the end of round 2. That in turn sets all other pitchers lower than the value they’re producing.

          So again, why?

          • Jeff in Southern Indiana says:
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            @ML: See the top 20 pitchers post and the top 100 overall post and the million comments about “pitching is deep”.

            Or maybe you’re trolling.

            • ML says:
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              @Jeff in Southern Indiana: the “pitching is deep” argument makes little sense when he pitcher is out earning his comp by more than 10 dollars(or sgps, however you want to represent it)

              • Cram It says:
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                @ML: Look, you wanted a reason why. The reason why is explained all over this website.

          • Cram It says:
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            @ML: Oh, I’m all for debating baby! Hitting wins fantasy leagues and around here especially, the mindset is don’t pay for pitching and if you use a top 5 pick for a starter, you’re silly. That said, Kershaw is still the #1 ranked Starter, so whether he’s ranked #1 overall, or 30th overall, he’s still properly relative to the other SP’s.

            I don’t see how you can say with confidence that his SP projections make him more valuable than half the guys ahead of him. Which 10 do you squeeze him in between? More valuable than 34/112/7/.272 but not more than 24/94/15/.280?

            • ML says:
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              @Cram It: you do understand those lines can be converted into a value that can be at least roughly compared to pitchers?

              Actually, you probably don’t

                • ML says:
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                  @Cram It: perhaps you need to revisit the logic behind that calculation. Haven’t seen a value that places him out of the first rd anywhere in the past 2 yrs. his current nfbc adp is 5. Lots of silly people playing for money I guess.

                  • Cram It says:
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                    @ML: Right, well go use ESPN rankings, take Kershaw with your 1st pick and lose your league. Grey’s rankings are not based on numbers alone.

                    • ML says:
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                      @Cram It: would love if you were in the league as well. Would make this even more fun, no?

                    • J-FOH says:
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                      @Cram It: “kick you in your ovaries”….classic Cram

                  • BigSloppyMacDaddy says:
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                    @ML: don’t bother explaining it to cram it. It’s not worth it….cheerleader, not scholar

                    • ML says:
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                      @BigSloppyMacDaddy: I really wasn’t trolling. It was a legitimate question given the variance. I mean the implied rd here is end of 2 And I just don’t get it.

                    • Cram It says:
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                      @BigSloppyMacDaddy: Hey the king of the trolls is back. We should meet up for a drink so I can kick you in your ovaries.

                    • Count de Monetball says:
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                      @BigSloppyMacDaddy: In case you didn’t see it above…
                      MacDaddy/Bill and whatever names you change to tomorrow, I will just call you Troll

                      If you want to scream from the rooftops about Grey and Rudy’s finish in the tout wars (15-team mixed) and LABR. Just say what you are thinking and be done with it. Those are two prestigious FBB leagues, and the creators of this website have earned the right to compete in these leagues, how about you, are you a writer for another website that has earned the right? Grey and Rudy have earned the reputation and credentials to be worthy of these top tiered fantasy leagues. IF they finished first or last in a top tier league, they are still in a top league and I am not. Thus their knowledge, credentials, and skill are well above those of the average blogger’s and mine. You put the top 15 people in the world at anything in a competition against each other, someone will finish first and someone 15th. That’s how competitions work. The team that finishes 15th could still be considered 15th in the WORLD for THAT SEASON ONLY. It is estimated that 32 million played fantasy sports in 2010 in Canada and the US combined. If Grey and Rudy were the 15th Best of 32 Million, I would still read this site every day and utilize the information here (as well as receive a large amount of entertainment value). In fantasy baseball, one season is a small sample size, but of course you know all about small sample size. Grey and Rudy are providing entertainment and a roadmap to success, which they have done for me personally. Further, they are providing this service and entertainment value for FREE to anybody.

                      You’re Welcome!

    • Ra'zball Al Ghul says:
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      @ML: Yeah but he dropped too many passes last season to trust him

    • mauledbypandas says:
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      @ML: The overall rankings are merely a roadmap. I drafted Kershaw in the second round overall last year and I won the RCL overall title. Go with your gut.

      • Cram It says:
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        @mauledbypandas: Was wondering, is there any money involved with that? I’ve never played an RCL….is there cash to be had?

        • mauledbypandas says:
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          @Cram It: Some leagues do a buy in, but those are usually the ones that have been together for a few years. There are plenty of standard RCL leagues that are completely and totally free. Sign ups are usually around this time of year, just keep an eye out. It will be a main Grey post of the day

          • Cram It says:
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            @mauledbypandas: I’m looking for money leagues. I’m in one big money league with friends that I’ve been in forever. I refuse to do free leagues, especially with strangers, so was curious if there was a solid group of RCLers that played for a little incentive.

            • goodfold2 says:
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              @Cram It: i’m guessing the money leagues use leaguesafe?

      • BigSloppyMacDaddy says:
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        @mauledbypandas: wait!?!?? You drafted kershaw and weren’t banned from the site indefinitely?!?!?!

              • costaricanchata says:
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                @Sky:

                this is the 6th time today , already , that you’ve posted this same comment .
                to quote you , quoting you , quoting you , etc .,
                i’ll give you the short version :
                “… Last time I checked, constant mocking and bringing up the same pointless point over and over isn’t respect. It’s just brainless and annoying. “

                • Sky

                  Sky says:
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                  Uh…ok? If you’re jabbing, Costa, strongly suggest you spend a bit more time looking at the source material. If not, the first sentence still applies…

                  • Robby D says:
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                    @Sky: It’s both sad and encouraging. Apparently the site has gotten so big it probably needs registration for commenting. You now have a steady stream of traffic and with that comes mindless criticism. Registration would allow for the filtering out of malcontents who offer nothing of substance and troll to disrupt and make it harder to provide the free services you offer. It would at least make it more work for them if they constantly have to create emails after they get banned for flaming.

                    • Sky

                      Sky says:
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                      On one hand I’d agree, but it’s like the TSA. It’s put in place with good intentions but it just screws it up for everyone who’s actually on here for a good reason, which I’d say is 98% of them. I’d rather not force Prez to not comment because his toothpaste isn’t in a tube that’s 3 oz or less…wait what an I saying, Prez doesn’t brush his teeth!

                    • Prez says:
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                      My dentures are worth more than your car!! *shakes fist, pokes cane*

                      See that sky? I used *than* correctly! Haha

                    • Sky

                      Sky says:
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                      Your a looser!

                    • Prez says:
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                      Skrew u skye!! Where threw!

                    • Sky

                      Sky says:
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                      Your such a trader, Perez!

                  • Aubrey Plaza's Pillow says:
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                    @BigSloppyMacDaddy: are you actually claiming to be Pouliot? If not is he your cousin or something?

        • Cram It says:
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          @BigSloppyMacDaddy: I’m sorry you’re so miserable with your life. Please don’t take any innocent people with you before you kill yourself

        • mauledbypandas says:
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          @BigSloppyMacDaddy: No, but someone in my building stole my RCL winner prize. Either that or Grey didn’t send it, but I am pretty sure he did. : Sad Emoticon:

      • J-FOH says:
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        @mauledbypandas: I like him in the second round too, and sometimes you need to zig when everyone else zags, but you are also a complete player who had other good draft picks and some good free agent adds. There is no one way to skin a bear, but having the skills of a complete player helps a lot. If this is confusing, I’m complimenting your awesomeness

        • mauledbypandas says:
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          @J-FOH: I hear you. That’s exactly what went through my head at the time actually. I didn’t like any hitters at the time I drafted Kershaw and figured I would zig. It worked out.. at least for one year :)

          • de nachos says:
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            @mauledbypandas: I tried the zig zag in RCL, too. Strasburg. Those results weren’t as pretty. Good on you for Kershaw.

      • Simply Fred

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        @mauledbypandas: Rudy has your draft ranked #2 overall (of 768 managers in RCL)…nice! Can’t get to your draft with ESPN down. Who was your first pick?

          • mauledbypandas says:
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            @mauledbypandas: I guess technically I got Kershaw in the 3rd :) and I have a huge bias for Rangers (thus the Kinsler/Yu picks)

            • mauledbypandas says:
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              @mauledbypandas: Looking back I made a lot of mistakes in the draft but got lucky with a few nice waiver grabs

              • J-FOH says:
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                @mauledbypandas: we all did, I dropped marte and Carpenter before the season started chasing SAGNOF and still had the #9 RCL team

                • mauledbypandas says:
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                  @J-FOH: I made the Marte mistake in another league so I feel that pain. Congrats on top ten, it feels good to do really well in the RCL but I realize there is quite a bit of good fortune going on as well. I mean I was 20-something one year and in the 100’s a year before that. The RCL players are usually pretty good competition, part of the reason I keep playing in them!

                  • J-FOH says:
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                    @mauledbypandas: I’m trying to organize some frequent commenter leagues. will keepyou posted, i know I have your e-mail so I got your invite. We need to have one with the now defunct roundtable crew. The possibilities….oh the possibilities

          • Simply Fred

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            @mauledbypandas: wow! kinda blew away the don’t draft SP early theory. still, drafting Miggy #1 helped keep your hitting competitive. well-played!

            • mauledbypandas says:
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              @simply fred: Yeah I have to bow to the luck god on that one. I went into the draft knowing I would have Darvish at all costs and Miggy. Kershaw was just a value pick. It was a fun year and I definitely enjoyed it. I just hope I can make the top 100 this year!

              • J-FOH says:
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                @mauledbypandas: @mauledbypandas: I idiotically blew off Darvish last year, but I owned Mad max all over the place….and J. Zimm and AJ Burnett. I hate J. Zimm

  8. Bodacious Taters says:
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    Not to question you Oh Great One (Jackie Gleason has nuthin’ on you) – but where is Garrett Jones. Does he have any value batting cleanup for Miami ??

    • J-FOH says:
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      @Bodacious Taters: as a platoon player only vs. Righties and now that he is in Miami, on the road vs, righties

  9. Rabbit says:
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    Oh and one other thing, Herr Grey: I know you update your stat predictions as the preseason ambles on; but where do you put the updated stats? On this page or on the individual positional ranking pages?

  10. Matt says:
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    Grey – I’ll comment here since its a newer post and you might respond. Matt Carpenter – I see your reasons for lowering his ranking, however how much would that be offset by a league that counts extra base hits, where he was a monster last year. Do you expect huge regression there too along with his runs?

    • Grey

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      @Matt: I don’t see that huge of a regression for that league… Knock him up about 30 spots…

      • Matt says:
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        @Grey: Thats about what I was thinking, thanks!

  11. fitz says:
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    The reason Kershaw / Mauer are so low is because Grey thinks it would be wise to pass on those guys.

  12. Jim says:
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    I will never ever tell anyone from my leagues about this site.

    • BigSloppyMacDaddy says:
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      @Jim: well if you do, you could end up with kershaw in the 9th round while everyone falls all over their keyboards to draft J.Gyorko

          • Grey

            Grey says:
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            Would you prefer we won all our leagues and gave you lousy advice?

            • Nick says:
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              @Grey: Technically he’d probably prefer you won all your leagues and gave great advice :) Wait, why I am helping this idiot? Keep doing what you are doing. I read this site multiple times per day. It rules.

              • Grey

                Grey says:
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                Thanks!

            • BigSloppyMacDaddy says:
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              @Grey: as I’ve said grey, I respect the information, but I will not hesitate to say what I think, or point out what I disagree with…no matter how tactless “sky” thinks my approach is. It’s the Internet. I’m not worried about feelings. Most of it is directed at your readers, who reAlly resemble a cult-like following. In fact, after I post this they’ll all pounce on me, as if trying to earn brownie points from the almighty himself. But if I truly thought the site wasn’t worth it, I wouldn’t check in. But I still do…ever since the days of giving you a hard time as Mr Lance Berkman. Sooner or later though, you’ll have to show up at Tout Wars or LABR. To me, that’s where all the projections and strategies show their true worth.

              • Grey

                Grey says:
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                Gotcha

                • Montezuma's Revenge... right now says:
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                  @Grey: @BigSloppyMacDaddy: how many more years of Grey/Rudy failures would you need exactly to get to a big enough sample size to quit? We might be able to help calendar sales, is all i’m saying.

    • 2 Giant rings says:
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      @Jim: I think Razzball has just about reached critical mass. Everyone in your league already knows about it.

  13. Jeff says:
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    I’m in an AL-Only league where rosters reset every five years. This year is the reset year, so whoever we draft this year we can keep for five seasons. No salaries. In that format, where would you take Xander Bogaerts?

    • Grey

      Grey says:
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      @Jeff: Around that of Everth

  14. dude says:
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    No Middlebrooks?

    • Fungazi says:
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      @dude: 121.5

    • Grey

      Grey says:
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      @dude: Must’ve accidentally deleted him, will fix

  15. Wake Up says:
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    I have to say…out of all your rankings…what sticks out the most…would probably be Madams mipples!

    • Cram It says:
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      @Wake Up: For me, it’s that Tyson Ross is not even worth -2 dollars! A travesty.

    • Sky

      Sky says:
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      @Wake Up: @Cram It: You both just wait for my Tyson Ross sleeper. Gonna bump that man’s value up to at least -1 dollars…at least!

      • Cram It says:
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        @Sky: Can’t wait! You better bring some revolutionary new sabermetrics to the table…

        • Sky

          Sky says:
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          Haha, I’m just pointing out what we all saw: a changed pitcher. I’d love to say I’m going to revolutionize the world but…I don’t project so it’s not possible!

          • Cram It says:
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            @Sky: Ha. I’m the same way when ranking my players. I don’t project numbers. I say to myself this guy will be better than that guy, so he’s my pick.

            • Sky

              Sky says:
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              Exactly, and about value. I remember when everyone went wild for Daniel Hudson back in 2011. I said that I liked him but felt I could get similar enough stats and better value from Ian Kennedy later. And yup. I just focus on underlying stats (K/9, K:BB, K%, etc) and go from there. Most guys have ranges for their stats. I just focus on that, projections wise.

  16. Wake Up says:
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    @JoeC – Ha!

  17. kingforaday151 says:
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    Just traded for Hosmer in my weekly head to head 10 keeper league. I want to keep Alex Gordon as well as my third outfielder (McCutchen and Bruce are 1 and 2). Most every lineup projection has Hosmer batting 3rd with Gordon either at 2nd or 5th in the order. What’s your strategy on having two players who potentially hit back to back in the order? Should any attention be paid to this? Am I cutting my percentages of counting stats or it that nonsense?

    PS – I also have McCutchen/Alvarez back to back but I have no choice there with the 3rd base landscape of the league.

    • Wake Up says:
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      @kingforaday151:
      I would expect Hosmer/Butler/Gordon…3,4,5

      it doesn’t make any difference if players on your FBB bat b2b…

    • Wake Up says:
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      @kingforaday151: To expand a little…you want a good OBP guy batting in front of your guy and a good RBI guy batting behind your guy…so if that is the case and you own both then that’s great…

      • kingforaday151 says:
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        @Wake Up: Thanks for the feedback Wake Up.

    • BigSloppyMacDaddy says:
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      @kingforaday151: total nonsense

  18. Ra'zball Al Ghul says:
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    No Tracy McGrady?

  19. costaricanchata says:
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    @ Grey :

    i like this new format .
    very cohesive .

  20. Shake N Bacon says:
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    First year for me joining an RCL fantasy baseball league. Looking forward to it!

    Quick keeper question for anyone willing to answer: I get to keep six players every year. This year my 6th keeper is down to Rizzo or Alex Rios.

    I already have two OF keepers and 1B isn’t all that appetizing after the first few big bats. All of the big guns are being kept so if I don’t keep Rizzo, Jose Abreu is probably my next best choice. Rios is obviously ranked higher, but with OF being a little deeper than 1B, is it worth taking a chance on Rizzo as my 6th keeper?

    • J-FOH says:
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      @Shake N Bacon: I thought you played RCL last year?

      • Shake N Bacon says:
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        @J-FOH: Nah, my first RCL experience was this past NFL season for fantasy football. I started following Razzball for the first time at the beginning of last baseball season. Didn’t know much at the RCL until it was too late and didn’t get to join any leagues.

        I typically only play in one league (long time keeper league) but would like to see how I would do against some razzballers who follow the same sage advice from the writers on here.

      • Shake N Bacon says:
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        @Grey: Word. I was hoping you’d say that!

  21. Jarrod says:
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    This looks great. Can’t wait for an OBP version. My league is OBP/R/RBI/HR/SLG/RBI

  22. Cory says:
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    Why only 350 ABs projected for Billy Hamilton? Do you think he’ll struggle at the plate so badly he’ll become a part-time player?

    Muchas Greycias for the fine work (as always).

    • Grey

      Grey says:
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      @Cory: Yup, likely… De nada…

      • Cory says:
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        @Grey: You’ve projected Hamilton for 67 steals in only 350 at bats. So if he somehow manages to hit leadoff all year & gets 580 at bats … WOWZA! What would be your projected SB total then?

  23. MadDog31 says:
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    I’m in a 12 team H2H points league where you get 3 keepers from the previous season for any player drafted past the 8th round. Currently I have Puig (17th rd) & Jose Fernandez (20th rd) for my last keeper its between Yadier Molina (10th rd) or Sonny Gray (19th rd). Opinion?

    • ThE sHiT says:
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      @MadDog31: Gray

  24. You can now access these projections via the main menu (Stats/Grey’s Pre-Season Projections) and bookmark this page: http://razzball.com/projections-grey/

    It is the same table as in this post and they’ll both be kept up to date based on injury / playing time changes.

    • Count de Monetball says:
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      @Rudy Gamble: Thanks Rudy, when you make significant changes, will you point it out clearly, Thanks…

      • Grey will likely allude to changes in his posts.

  25. Jeff in Southern Indiana says:
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    I feel robbed of 300 pithy comments. Of course that would have taken 20 hours to write.

    Could you discuss a little of your overall strategy in drafting late? Such as runs on closers and who you’re targeting for the bullpen this year and where, etc.

    Your strategy seems to load up on power as it is scarce, where do you plan to get your speed from – any late targets?

    Or is there a generic draft strategy post from years ago somewhere saying SAGNOF SAGNOF, etc.?

    • BigSloppyMacDaddy says:
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      @Jeff in Southern Indiana: yes there is a very generic draft strategy and here’s the gist:

      1) power is supreme
      2) CI and OF are of the upmost importance
      3) MI and CA mean nothing
      4) stolen bases should be acquired with crappy one-dimensional “SAGNOF” players
      5) wait on closers
      6) wait on pitching
      7) take high K/9 guys, except with Zimmerman and Fister for no apparent reason

      Basically draft HRs & Ks and you’ll fit in fine.

      • Shake N Bacon says:
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        @BigSloppyMacDaddy: Don’t you have anything better to do, other than being a dick for no real reason? If you don’t like this site…then don’t visit it.

        Having a debate is one thing. Everyone respects a good debate. But constantly attacking the site, the writers and the commentators is juvenile.

        So “back that azz up” on outta here.

        • Shake N Bacon says:
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          Damn it.

          I bit and fed the troll. 10 lashings for me.

          • Robby D says:
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            @Shake N Bacon: It’s understandable. It’s hard when you see someone lying through their teeth or making assinine statements like Kershaw in the 9th round would happen in an RCL league.

            As for Kershaw, if you were lucky enough to get him in the first or second round, he played above his average ADP. You know who else in the top 10 played at or above their average ADP? 0.

            So you have one moron screaming Kershaw from the rooftops, who probably would have been shouting Verlander from the rooftops last year.

            Do you know how many top 10 ADP pitchers finished outside the top 100 in overall player value last year? 6. These are all guys whose ADP had them in the top 5 rounds, and more than half of them returned value as if they were at best 8th round picks.

            By all means, take Kershaw’s career year which still had him as 5th or 6th most valuable player last year, and project him to the 3rd overall pick like a couple guys in Yahoo did. I’m sure he’ll shave another quarter point off that 1.83 ERA, and add 10-25 more K’s.
            I’m sure his career low BABIP will be either repeated or exceeded even though it was 20 points lower than his career average and career best. If it goes back to his normal BABIP, he would be looking at an ERA over 2. Same with if he regresses in any of the categories where he put up career bests (HR/FB%, BB/9, IP)

            I’m sure he’s going to be just as good, and just as lucky and improve. Most likely he will return a value like the average of his past three years, and fall back to being a great late 2nd round pickup that will be drafted 3rd or 4th in a lot of leagues. I’m sure his numbers will be just as good as the year he was playing for a contract…

            None of it matters Shake. None of that evidence matters. Kershaw is a stud and if you don’t agree, apparently you would wait until the 9th round to get Kershaw. Doesn’t matter that if you draft Kershaw in the beginning of the first round, you will be lucky if you only lose single digit picks value on him.

            It also doesn’t matter that Razzball was the only fantasy ‘pert ranking Goldschmidt in the top 20 last year and I couldn’t find a place ranking him higher than 40 going into last year, and even with that Grey said he has the potential to be top 10. Doesn’t matter that of his top ten he was highest on McCutcheon to beat his projections and deliver an MVP type year. It doesn’t matter that he was right on Chris Davis or the other 9 out of the 10 top ADP pitchers last year that you should have punted on, because pitching was deep last year and the top 10 at the end of the year was overrepresented by guys that were drafted notably later by their ADPs. None of that matters.

            The only thing that matters is Ruttledge, Kershaw’s one year beating his ADP, and the finish in one expert fantasy league. That’s it. No actual evidence is needed, nor will it be provided.

            Bill James Bitches!!!

            (Drops Mic)

        • BigSloppyMacDaddy says:
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          @Shake N Bacon: I have nothing better to do. When my mom unlocks the door I’ll get off the computer. Until then, I’m here. Hi.

        • Aubrey Plaza's Pillow says:
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          @Shake N Bacon: shake and bacon, troll did above spell out a methodology wherein he would quit, if Grey/Rudy kept on failing at Tout Wars and LABR. However, he didn’t spell out how many years that would take.

  26. Johan Barleycorn says:
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    Grey, word has it at Fox Sports KC Alex Gordon is batting fifth in the lineup. Aoki, infante, Hosmer, Moobs, then Gordon. Would this have much effect on his ranking in the OF hierarchy/projections?

    • Grey

      Grey says:
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      @Johan Barleycorn: Lineups change daily in-season, I don’t think he’ll be batting fifth every day this coming year…

  27. Joel says:
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    Thanks for your help as always. I’ve got next pick in a league. I just picked Heyward I have Puig Jones heyward marte for my 3 OF spots in H2h points. We play 2 DH. I have 4 arms Jose F, Sale, Gio, Madbum while we play 6 per week.

    I need a 3b SS to fill. I also have 3 picks in next round.
    Do I let a seager, Castro, Sandoval,andrus guarantee pass this pick for Gordon, werth, machado, Dom brown, or Jennings?
    Really struggling with snagging best available or filling a position

    • Grey

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      @Joel: Not sure what you’re asking

      • Joel says:
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        @Grey: @Grey:
        I have next pick in a draft. 3rd/SS are my empty postions. Seager Sandoval Castro Avilable. I have. Heyward puig a jones Marte for

        Is it dumb to snag Gordon , Rizzo, Jennings, Dom brown, or werth before filling 3b/ss?

        Or do those 3 seem like a better option and of those 3 how would you rank?

        • Grey

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          Don’t take a OF, then go by my ranks…

  28. Mike

    Mike says:
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    Not just saying this because I post here…the thought, time, and effort that goes into these rankings is really appreciated. Thanks!

    • mauledbypandas says:
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      @Mike: suck up! All kidding aside. Love all of you who contribute to the site. Hmm might be time to refill that Daiquiri glass

    • Grey

      Grey says:
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      @Mike: No problem

  29. Paul says:
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    Hi Grey, thanks for what you have done.

    Just curious how do you think of Profar?

    Everyday job is ready for him now but few evaluate him to breakout a lot this year.
    But he was the top 1 prospect!!

    Thanks.

    • mauledbypandas says:
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      @Paul: 14. Jurickson Profar – Imagine Jurickson Profar and Jedd Gyorko went to Hawaii to get married and they decided to flip a coin for who got to name the baby. Heads it was, but Gyorko called tails so he got to keep his last name, and Jurickson was heads so he got to name the kid, leaving them with Jurickson Gyorko, and when the kid turned 12 he changed his name to Tommy so kids would stop teasing him with Jerkson Jerko. That’s an imagine scenario that even John Lennon couldn’t have dreamt up. Ron Washington seems content with Profar at the bottom of the order. For now. After a few lines of the devil’s dandruff that could all change. So…gimme! Now, I will write a rap song that struggles to rhyme in honor of Jurickson Profar and Brad Miller. I call this rap song, “My Rhymes Are On…That Thing You Read Off Your Watch (Time).”
      I like Miller and Profar a lot, cuz. Like a lot a lot. Two a lot’s.
      I got more a lot’s than you got uh-nothings’s.
      Something, something something. That’s three something’s.
      Your girlfriend told me you’re lackluster.
      Then I switched the U’s for A’s and the F’s for L’s on your girl’s keyboard and she told me to lack luster.
      But she kept going, “Lack luster, hurder! I lackin’ fove you so lackin’ mach.”
      I yelled, “Oh, yeah,” like the Kool-Aid Man. He’s punch with a paunch. 2014 Projections: 77/10/59/.272/15

      And that’s me quoting Grey… without actual quotation marks

      • Paul says:
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        @mauledbypandas: thanks for ur quoting.
        Maybe am too new here so not sure what he meant. Haha.

        Anyway, based on ranks, Gyorko > Miller or Profar

  30. Cory says:
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    Corey Hart is a 1b (no OF eligibility) in Yahoo.

    • The Thumb says:
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      @Cory: I don’t think that really changes much. Unless you’re in a deep 5 OF leagues you should already have 3 OFs before you get to him.

    • Grey

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      @Cory: We’ll see where he is in ESPN then adjust…

    • Curt says:
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      @Cory: 1B only in cbs also.

  31. Empire State says:
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    Fantasy noob inheriting a dynasty team in a 10-team h2h. I can keep up to 5 guys indefinitely. Here is my list:

    Adam Jones
    Chris Davis
    Manny Machado
    Jean Segura
    Edwin Encarnacion

    If I keep fewer than five I get extra picks before the first round. I’m debating whether I should drop Machado to get an extra early pick, then try to pick him back upon the third or fourth round. Losing Machado is a risk, but is it one worth taking to try a score a top 50 guy?

  32. Count de Monetball says:
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    Grey, thanks, and I agree with Costaricanchata that the sortable format is awesome (and nice that its the same as hitter tron, SON, etc.) I am curious, as spring training goes along, injuries happen, or anything else happens that alters your rankings substantially, are you more likely to just let us know about it in a daily blurb, or will you update the rankings, i.e. rookie surprisingly locks down a starting position (ex. Carlos Martinez) or a quality middle reliever locks down a closer position, or a major league ready bat makes the opening day lineup, etc.

    • Grey

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      @Count de Monetball: I’ll try to make a point of telling everyone once spring training rolls around…

  33. Eddy says:
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    Excellent work, Grey. I can finally start mocking now that we have all the tools.

    **HIJACKING THREAD**

    Razzball commenters, I have 8 spots for a Yahoo, 12-team roto auction league (OBP instead of AVG). 1350 IP max. It’s only a $20 buy in and I use the always-trusted leaguesafe to harbor the money. If you’re interested, shoot me an email eddy5791@yahoo.com.

    • BigSloppyMacDaddy says:
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      @Eddy: I’ll have the best staff ever

      • Eddy says:
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        @BigSloppyMacDaddy:

        then come on down!

        Now six spots left.

      • Dave in Norcal says:
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        @BigSloppyMacDaddy:

        And I’ll laugh when two of your high drafted pitchers go down to Tommy John, while I just picked up this year’s JoFer and Harvey in the 22nd round or off the waiver wire. Cole, Gray and Salazar were available in many leagues last year into September. Not mine – I rode them (and my early drafted power) to victory.

        • BigSloppyMacDaddy says:
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          @Dave in Norcal: yeah hindsight is wonderful. Nice job.

          • Dave in Norcal says:
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            @BigSloppyMacDaddy:

            Here’s the thing, troll (and I’ll follow advice below to ignore you from here out), the key message of this site is that you don’t need all that much “hindsight” to see which pitchers might give you strong performance, and, unlike power hitters, many of them go undrafted. They are just sitting on the wire or are there late in the draft. There is far more “replacement” pitching that gives big value than hitting. Moreover, the act of pitching offers greater chance of injury (especially season ending injury) than hitting, fielding or running. Kershaw has and very well may give first round value again. But, on average, pitchers are more likely to have something go awry and they’re easier to replace with a decent replacement than a big power hitter. Grey’s rankings reflect the above opinions* and are designed to steer you to a greater overall chance of success. If you disagree fine, and periodically, it will work out for you, but to disagree like an ass looks like it’s only going to get you the silent treatment from here out.

            *facts.

            • BigSloppyMacDaddy says:
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              @Dave in Norcal: you mean you won’t talk to me anymore?! Ohhhh no

            • BigSloppyMacDaddy says:
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              @Dave in Norcal: wait before you silence me, can you explain to me one more time the concept of pitcher volatility?

              • goodfold2 says:
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                @BigSloppyMacDaddy:there is one funny thing i’m noticing about just what assbags bring out in others having to deal with them. He’s now gotten like 5 really long response posts concerning his behavior (seemingly trying to “fix” him). Is this the same syndrome that seems to stem from so many women who “go after the assholes” rather than nice guys (or whatever the condition is called). Is this also prevalent in males as well (assuming pretty much everybody here, at least 97%, are male) in a different form?

        • Aubrey Plaza's Pillow says:
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          @Dave in Norcal: how many teams and how big are roster’s in that league mentioned? hard to believe (unless shallow league) that cole wasn’t owned before Sept.

    • Rabbit says:
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      @Eddy: Daily transactions or weekly?

      • Eddy says:
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        @Rabbit:

        Sorry, never saw this message. Daily transactions.

      • goodfold2 says:
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        @Grey: love the PPP.

  34. Ryan says:
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    I am in a 20 team h2h dynasty league. I am trying to see where I can look to improve via trade. Is there any particular area I should look to fix?

    c evan gattis
    1b miguel cabrera
    2b brandon phillips
    ss jurickson profar
    3b evan longoria
    lf justin upton
    cf desmond jennings
    rf shane victorino
    util prince fielder
    bn michael cuddyer
    bn neil walker
    bn carl crawford

    sp clayton kershaw
    sp yu darvish
    sp cliff lee
    sp zach wheeler
    p dan straily
    p tanner roark
    p charlie morton
    rp jose veras
    rp sean doolittle
    bn mat belisle
    bn garret richards

    • Grey

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      @Ryan: Pretty great team for 20 team league…. Your bullpen’s a bit of a mess, that’s about it

      • Ryan says:
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        @Grey: so would u suggest I deal 1 or 2 of my bats for rp help? If so which bats should I move?

        • Grey

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          Nope, I’d hold what you have for now… RPs will come into the league…

  35. Jon says:
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    Bravo, Grey, bravo. That is all.

    • Grey

      Grey says:
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      @Jon: No problem

  36. Count de Monetball says:
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    Just a thought writers and frequent commenters, (specifically Sky and Cram), I think we should just completely ignore the troll (when we find out what its name of the day is). While it it is sometimes fun to have some banter, quite frankly the moron is getting on my nerves seeing his dribble as I read through the comments, while looking to see if there are some good nuggets in there…. Just my opinion, but I love this site and want to ensure it maintains its full enjoyment factor (ex baseball analysis and humor).

    • Sky

      Sky says:
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      I only wanted to give him a shot at living up to his ‘I respect the site’ statement. Sadly he’s proven that’s really all he is: a troll

    • Cram It says:
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      @Count de Monetball: I was thinking the same thing, but I let the personal attack get to me. I shall refrain.

    • Sky

      Sky says:
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      I’m just going to link to his statement of ‘respect’ from now on. It’s Two-fold. It states that he’s a troll AND it shows he doesn’t have the spine to troll under the same name.

      • BigSloppyMacDaddy says:
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        @Sky: yeah it’s all about “spine” here on the Internet

          • BigSloppyMacDaddy says:
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            @Sky: I’m going to miss you

          • SwaggerJackers says:
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            @Sky: @Prez: “Swim away, jellyfish.”

            I don’t know if that’s a line from something but it’s funny. You’re my boy Sky!

            • Sky

              Sky says:
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              @SwaggerJackers: I googled, looks like its mine. Copyrighting now…hold off using it until I get royalties!

    • Kid A says:
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      @Count de Monetball:

      Little known historical fact: Disgruntled fantasy baseballer, Gavrilo Princip lobbed a grenade into Francy Ferdinand’s carriage because that crazy Archduke ranked Shoeless Joe over up-and-coming prospect, George Herman Ruth. Millions died.

      Fantasy baseball: sparking international powder kegs since 1914.

      It is always easier to ignore if you just ignore.

      • Sky

        Sky says:
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        @Kid A: Even littler known fact: This historical setting is actually the inspiration for Bruno Mars:

        • Kid A says:
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          @Sky: Amazing what a boner that guy(?) gives prezzii…

          • Sky

            Sky says:
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            That would be the even littler, littler known fact of this whole thing…

            • J-FOH says:
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              @Sky: hahahaha

            • Kid A says:
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              @Sky: This makes me laugh alot.

          • Prez says:
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            @Kid A: hey! You keep my boner outta your mouth!

      • J-FOH says:
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        @Kid A: bravo my historically minded stalker

        • Kid A says:
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          @J-FOH: Didn’t your court appointed attorney explain “stalker” to you when you were trying to beat those charges that stemmed from you spending too much time outside the local YMCA in a trench coat?

          • J-FOH says:
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            @Kid A: I’ve upgraded to a van and it’s outside everywhere Yasiel Puig goes. That dude is hard to keep up with when your pants are around your ankles.

      • Wake Up says:
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        @Kid A: Where were you yesterday dammit! I could have used this reminder!

        • Kid A says:
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          @Wake Up: I can only help those that want to be helped, you savant.

          • Wake Up says:
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            @Kid A: “Never wrestle with pigs. You both get dirty and the pig likes it.” GBS

  37. Jonas says:
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    Doesn’t Tyler Thornburg have more UPSIDE based on his performance finishing last season? Is he going to be out of the bullpen?

    • Grey

      Grey says:
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      @Jonas: I don’t buy Garza being healthy, which would slide him in… I’ll drop Thornburg’s projections and rank if Garza leaves spring with his health…

      • Jonas says:
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        @Grey: cool, thanks. I owe you a beverage for sure, Grey.

        • Grey

          Grey says:
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          No problem

    • Jonas says:
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      @Jonas: Bullpen.

  38. mauledbypandas says:
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    Now we just need ESPN to end their maintenance so we can see their rankings and set up leagues!

      • mauledbypandas says:
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        @Grey: hey, they are up now!

  39. B&W says:
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    Mods please make sure this is okay, don’t want to step on any toes.

    So I’ve gotten this all down in spreadsheet form. If anyone would like a copy I’ve gotten them broken down with positions, along with a synopsis for each player based off of Grey’s blurbs, separated into his tiers and highlighted the sleepers if anyone is interested.

    Please post an email address if you’d like a copy.

    • Grey

      Grey says:
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      @B&W: You’re taking food from my mouth

      • B&W says:
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        @Grey:
        Didn’t even consider the clicks aspect. Just put some more drank in your cup for all your hard work.

        • Grey

          Grey says:
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          Thanks!

  40. Jon says:
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    In a keep forever league, Masterson or Porcello?

    • The Thumb says:
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      @Jon: Masterson

    • Grey

      Grey says:
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      @Jon: Toss up, I’d go Porcello

  41. Spammer Jay says:
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    I’m updating the excel war room. Any special requests for added functionality or info?

    • Count de Monetball says:
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      @Spammer Jay: Thanks Jay, we very much appreciate it!

    • Teddy Heater says:
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      @Spammer Jay: War room coming to you new and improved!! Thanks guys & looking forward to Mother of all Cheat Sheets!

  42. RandomItalicizedVoice says:
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    Wow the comment section has well and truly gone to hell. Too much trolling and too much feeding of said trolls. Sad.

    • Kid A says:
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      @RandomItalicizedVoice:

      Razzball is a fine place and worth the fighting for, and I hate very much to leave it.

      • RandomItalicizedVoice says:
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        @Kid A:

        I agree, but the comment section is starting look like comment sections on ESPN or CBS. Obviously it’s not all the way there yet, but that’s the direction it’s heading.

        The whole thing, for me, is that Grey et al have answered certain questions ad infinitum on this website. As we all know, there is a FBB philosophy here that most of us accept, more or less. Why do questions like “Why is Kershaw ranked so low?” even deserve a response? The answer is embedded in nearly every post that is made on this website!

        IMO, if a given person doesn’t agree with the general FBB philosophy here, they will move on, probably pretty quickly, especially if their trollish attempts at goading or instigating are given the attention they deserve…which is none. No amount of argument, no matter how logical, is going to convince them. The evidence has been laid out for years on this website. If a person is truly open to changing their minds, they will find these answers quite easily throughout the site, and will weigh that evidence fairly against their pre-established ideas, and THEN perhaps come to ask legitimate questions in the comments or forums.

          • Bombo Rivera says:
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            @Big Magoo: Agreed. Nice to see you again, RIV and Magoo.

            • Big Magoo

              Big Magoo says:
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              @Bombo Rivera: You too, Bombo. Maybe we can do another RCL this season. It was a hell of a ride last year.

        • costaricanchata says:
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          @RandomItalicizedVoice:

          ” I agree, but the comment section is starting look like comment sections on ESPN ..”

          exactly !

          (and , oh yeah … yo momma .)

        • BigSloppyMacDaddy says:
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          @RandomItalicizedVoice: “the evidence has been laid out for years on this site”? Oh yeah. Please demonstrate. Do you have the final standing to all razz ball expert league finishes? Because outside of that, there is no “evidence”

          It’s readers like you that I have the biggest issue with. You’re entire tone reeks of pretentious ‘we are the wiser’ obnoxiousness, with nothing to actually back it up. Saying something is so doesn’t make it so.

    • Big Al says:
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      @RandomItalicizedVoice: Yeah the only way to get rid of a troll virus is not to feed it like you said. If nobody feeds the trolls they starve and get no attention, because that’s what it wants. Leave the sad little troll alone and he’ll go back to his hole.

  43. The Thumb says:
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    The hate runs strong with this thread…

  44. Simply Fred

    simply fred says:
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    Grey: having fun looking at your yahoo mock. looks like your players fell to you, on-average, 2 rounds after your projections. must have been fun!

    That said. Of course that wouldn’t happen in the ECFBL.

    Guys/Gals, yes, we are actively recruiting Grey/Rudy to the league. who of you wouldn’t?

    Really, think there should be some sort of contest on Razz to get in an RCL with Grey/Rudy. Any ideas?

    (All, pleeeaaaase, references to ECFBL being a great league are not intended to brag. They are meant to encourge others to be active…stream pitchers and hitters…be in the game 24-7…I love you!)

    • Grey

      Grey says:
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      @simply fred: Yeah, that’s a good idea… I’m all ears to how to get us in your league… Honestly, as of right now, we haven’t decided which leagues we’ll be in yet…

      • J-FOH says:
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        @Grey: write a 500 word essay on why you deserve to play with Rudy and Grey, kinda like a make-a-wish thing

        • Grey

          Grey says:
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          Hehe

          • J-FOH says:
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            @Grey: draw a new razzball logo, using Crayons only, that will be used for the day. The top 10 entries get to play with you and Rudy. The pictures will be judged on originality, cleanliness, and relativity to the site

            • Grey

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              I like that, but wouldn’t really give us people who were good at fantasy, just good at drawing…

              • J-FOH says:
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                @Grey: a razzball test? A virtual Royal rumble? a lottery? a bidding war? pay to play with Rudy and Grey?

                • Grey

                  Grey says:
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                  Yeah, not sure… Need to think on it… No paying though…

                  • J-FOH says:
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                    @Grey: not even in daquiris or vape juice?

                    • Grey

                      Grey says:
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                      Ha, nope

                  • J-FOH says:
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                    @Grey: got it, a frequent commenter draft. You and Rudy each select 5 frequent commenters. Feelings will be hurt but for those that don’t make it, comment more and make the cut next year. If you can’t come up with 5 each include some writers in there too. Something along those lines. it’s a lot easier than selling candy bars with golden tickets in them.

                    • Grey

                      Grey says:
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                      Haha… Wait, I like the golden ticket idea!

                    • Sky

                      Sky says:
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                      I’m picturing you dressed as Willy Wonka a la the Tim Burton remake now. It’s frightening…but accurate with the original story!

                    • Grey

                      Grey says:
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                      I’m more of a Gene Wilder Wonka…

                    • Sky

                      Sky says:
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                      I’m still scared

                    • Prez says:
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                      Ill kick out 100 fart jokes a day if im not on the list!

                      Madams has pancake mips! Thats a start..

                    • Bombo Rivera says:
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                      @J-FOH: You want people to comment more?

                  • J-FOH says:
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                    @Grey: of course you do, it’s reason to get a new top hat

  45. booya says:
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    With the keepers I already have listed below would you want option 1)Mark Trumbo & Ubaldo, option 2)Matt Carpenter & Ubaldo, or option 3)Matt Holliday? Its a H2H 6×6 league that uses OPS and K/9…

    Votto
    Segura
    Cargo
    Bruce
    Marte

    Wainwright
    Shelby Miller
    Cingrani

    Thanks

  46. Clint says:
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    2nd round for Kershaw, eh? Wow. Didn’t think I should look at pitchers until 3-5th rounds easy but you guys are the smaat ones.

  47. brian says:
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    I dont remember today being my birthday or christmas but I appreciate the gift

    • Grey

      Grey says:
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      No problem

  48. Wake Up says:
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    Funny thing is…from what I remember of Tout…the guy who won was strong in…HRs and Ks…

    • Sky

      Sky says:
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      Your memory has to be wrong…no wait, Bill James said to do that…no wait, I’m so confused! Mother? *puts on lipstick*

      • Wake Up says:
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        @Sky: Don’t worry you look beautiful just the way you are…

        I’d like to invite you to go fishing…but I’m scared that you’ll eat all the worms…

        • Sky

          Sky says:
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          Like my zombie father used to say, you have to eat them before they eat you.

          • Wake Up says:
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            @Sky: Like my great great grandpappy used to say…sure zombies are delicious…but, if you eat’em all up…they’ll be none left for my great great grandson to eat…

            • Sky

              Sky says:
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              For some reason thinking about zombies and great great grandpappies makes me think of House 2. Please tell me you’ve seen that. Puppypillar? Hello? Anyone?

              • Wake Up says:
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                @Sky: No…If you’re talking about the Puppy Bowl…I taped it on VHS…but haven’t watched it yet…so be careful for spoilers…

                • Sky

                  Sky says:
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                  Lets just say the Toy Fox Terrier coach – Jim Harbowwow – craps himself on the sidelines.

                  • Wake Up says:
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                    @Sky: Ha! You talking about the one where Bilal comes over in his PJs this time?

                    • Sky

                      Sky says:
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                      I assume Bilal is always in PJs. He plays like he’s asleep! *Lame joke of the day…covered*

              • Big Magoo

                Big Magoo says:
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                @Sky: Never saw the sequel. Is it good bad or bad bad? Is it worth checking out just for the great title?

                • Sky

                  Sky says:
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                  Good bad. House II: The Second Story…that tells you all you need to know about it. Very ‘WTF, who thought of this’ stuff. And it has a Puppypillar! Seriously, I want a Puppypillar.

                  • Big Magoo

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                    @Sky: I meant the tagline of “It’s getting weirder!” on the bottom of the cover. That better not be false advertising! Though, a Puppypillar? Sounds like legitimate weirdness…

                    • Sky

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                      Haha, oh believe me, it gets weirder than Carrot Top with muscles and plastic surgery up in dis. I watched it as a kid so there’s probably some nostalgia associated but it was very imaginative. Definitely not a horror by any stretch of the imagination.

                  • Count de Monetball says:
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                    @Sky: There is a House II, oh shit, I need to get less of a life, so I can watch it!!!

                    • Sky

                      Sky says:
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                      Puppypillars, Count! Puppypillars!

                  • Big Magoo

                    Big Magoo says:
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                    @Sky: If you like the good kind of cheesy horrors, check out The Stuff. It’s basically about mind-controlling ice cream. Nuff said. Some of the Leprechaun movies are good bad too. Never saw Lep: In The Hood though. Seems like that one could go either way.

                    • Sky

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                      Sorry man, ‘The Stuff’ is already a top 10’er for me regarding good bad. Actually was pretty damn smart given the timing of it (making fun of consumerism in the midst of the 80’s). My favorite part is Benjamin Stone being the lead character. That was outta nowhere…AND WHO EATS WHITE CREAMY STUFF OF THE GROUND! Seriously, that scene makes me scratch my head every time..and laugh of course.

                      Leprechaun was fun. I can’t say I saw past maybe 2, though. I have some catching up to do. Now more modern good bad flick: remake of The Wicker Man with Nic Cage. So quotable…

                    • J-FOH says:
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                      @Big Magoo: Is that better than attack of the killer tomatoes?

                    • Prez says:
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                      What the f*ck are puppypillars?

      • c0wfunk says:
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        @c0wfunk: In fact, digging deeper, his drafted staff:

        C.C. Sabathia
        Tim Lincecum
        Dan Haren
        Matt Garza
        Andrew Cashner
        Trevor Bauer
        Chad Billingsley

        Barely resembles his finishing staff:
        Estrada
        Salazar
        Kazmir
        Lincecum
        Garza
        Porcello
        Ventura
        Bumgarner
        Haren

        Further supporting the theories espoused on this site.

    • BigSloppyMacDaddy says:
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      @Wake Up: from what I remember, Razzball was strong in nothing

  49. themightypeace says:
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    400 ranked players – that is a mountain of work! Much appreciated.

    Are there any players who you feel are conservatively ranked that could easily jump up the list when the season starts? For example, Prospects whose arrival to the majors is imminent are usually quite conservative in rankings (justifiably so), but they Are a volatile bunch and there are always one or two players who surprise (usually pitchers). Who do you think are the most volatile rankings on your list?

  50. Jon says:
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    Lawrie is valued at $10, Porcello $11. Both have the chance to out-produce those numbers? Which one has the higher ceiling? The hitter?

    • Grey

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      Yeah

  51. Big Magoo

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    The top 400 are already projected and in a sortable format. Well done, sir (or sirs, I didn’t forget about you Rudy). Just need this incredibly long offseason to come to an end.

    Regarding the rankings, do you expect Rios to be bumped into the #2 spot in the lineup at the expense of Andrus, or for Choo to be moved down against LHPs? It seems like Rios’ counting stats reflect those of a top of the order hitter rather than a 5 hole one.

    I’m looking to start a working list of the ’13 league winners who are interested in joining the Champions League this season. You have a standing invitation, Grey. It was fun having Nick in the league last year. J-FOH and mauledbypandas, I’ll send you guys emails, but you can also respond here to confirm your spots in the league. They’re there if you want ’em. I’ll be posting something in the forums as well.

    • Grey

      Grey says:
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      I’m assuming he see a lot of time in the two hole at the expense of Andrus, but it’s a fluid situation…

    • mauledbypandas says:
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      @Grey: Warsh is hard to predict sometimes. He tends to go with his trusted guys, and Andrus definitely is that by now. You never know though..
      @Big Magoo: I’d be down for sure. Let me know what I need to do

  52. Cram It says:
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    Do you guys have some sort of auction draft calculator? Like say you wanted to spend 70% on hitting and 30% on pitching, you could plug in how much money you’re allotted, # of roster spots, etc. It would be something you could use during the draft…like if I just spent $40 of my $260 on Goldy, it would recalculate how much money I should have left for offense/SP based on my percentage goal.

    Does this sound insane? :)

    • Shake N Bacon says:
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      @Cram It: Probably something easy enough to do on an Excel spreadsheet or a google spreadsheet that everyone could get a link to.

      Though I’m too lazy to do this myself. I might give it a try this weekend though Cram.

    • MattTruss

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      @Cram It: The old Excel War Room kept track of how much $$ you had left as well as average remaining per player. Doesn’t seem like it would be a hard thing to add to break it into Off/Pitching. A spreadsheet with your goals and then columns under it for what you paid for guys that subtracted from the total would be pretty easy too. All else fails, the old calculator and notepad would do in a pinch.

      • Cram It says:
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        @Shake N Bacon: @MattTruss223: Word. Maybe an excel formula rule would work, but I’m savvy/un-lazy enough to work it out myself. Really, I just get so drunk by the 15th round that I lose track of my spending. Art imitating life…

        • MattTruss

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          @Cram It: Ha! hear that

  53. JohnnyBaseball says:
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    In a H2H keeper league that includes the basics + 2B, Walks, and OPS categories. I am torn and trying to decide who to keep Avasial Garcia vs Christian Yelich. If only standard categories counted I would stick with Garcia, but the 2B + Walks makes me lean toward Yelich. Thoughts?

    • Grey

      Grey says:
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      Avisail

  54. c0wfunk says:
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    Thanks as always, Grey. I love to compare your rankings to ADPs and ESPN ranks to find where I can take advantage. Got me a 4th round goldschmidt and last round Marte last season..

    You must have hit some new tier in the fantasy baseball Googles, the troll persistence and frequency rates have really shot up this off season with real signs of upside this season!

    • Grey

      Grey says:
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      Haha…No problem

  55. c0wfunk says:
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    lemme throw out a “what about this guy” – I’ve heard a few experts mentioning cameron maybin as someone to look at as a bounceback this year. How far did he place out of the top 400? You see any upside at all there?

    • Grey

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      He’s a platoon guy at the bottom of the Padres lineup as of right now… With a Venable or Quentin injury he’d slide into the top 300…

  56. Random Collmenter says:
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    I’ve done a few mock auctions on Yahoo and basically every player in your top 50 is going for WAY more $ than you have listed (except for a few – Pujols, etc.)… do you suggest sitting back and letting people overpay to scoop up deals later, or overpaying for a couple studs? I don’t want to get stuck with no one in the top 30…

    Thanks!

    • Cram It says:
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      @Random Collmenter: Mock auctions are tough to gauge. Always some looney’s driving up the price just because.

    • Grey

      Grey says:
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      Yeah, hang back…

    • costaricanchata says:
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      @Random Collmenter:

      try and drive up the price only on guys that you really want .
      that way , you won’t get stuck with someone else’s guys .

  57. Robby D says:
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    Finally I can provide value.

    If no one else is doing it, I’m updating the War room as it’s pretty simple excel stuff. I was going to add functionality to differentiate between ESPN and YAHOO position eligibility.

    Is there anything else on the wishlist of improvements from last year’s war room?

    • Grey

      Grey says:
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      Someone else has emailed it to me already and they’re going to do it (as of now), so you’re an alternate at this point…

    • Spammer Jay says:
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      @Robby D: Hey Robby, lets collaborate on it. I’m just starting on it now that these rankings are out. jason.loeffler22 (at) gmail.com .

      • Grey

        Grey says:
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        Hey, Spammer, someone emailed it to me already and I’m working with it now… Thanks!

        • Spammer Jay says:
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          @Grey: ok no prob. missing data for Casilla at 339.

          • Robby D says:
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            @Spammer Jay: Sorry I didn’t respond sooner. I am at work, and I had all the excel projections rolled in and the tiers created on the spreadsheet, but if nothing else, I’ll just work on this for my version of it. I love playing with the rankings and projections anyway and took the war room last year and tweaked the projections to reduce or increase the value as I saw it.

            I will probably leave that to the professionals because I was completely wrong on McCutcheon last year and Pujols, so I’ll just stick to the ones used here.

  58. Hawk says:
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    @Grey

    Any chance of doing a keeper style post? A post where you adjust the rankings based on drafting in a keeper (keep forever, dynasty)league?

    Ex: In a keeper league, you’d definitely take Trout over Cabrera. A lot of the pitcher rankings would change based on being able to keep etc…

    Thanks for all the hard work!

    • Grey

      Grey says:
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      Keeper rankings coming next week

      • Hawk says:
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        @Grey:

        You sir….your stache is not trash.

        • Grey

          Grey says:
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          Thanks!

  59. Jurickselton Primmons says:
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    Dynasty auction league, 6×6 W/ OPS & Holds. Who do I retain? I get 4 Keepers.

    Prince Fielder – $36
    Brandon Belt – $6
    Andrew McCutchen – $38
    Wil Myers – $5 (mmmmmm)
    Jean Segura – $5
    Trevor Rosenthal – $5
    Greg Holland – $6
    Alex Cobb – $9
    Gerrit Cole – $5

    Thanks guys

    • Grey

      Grey says:
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      Cole, McCutchen, Segura, Myers

  60. Jurickselton Primmons says:
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    $300 Auction budget

  61. Nimrod says:
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    Love this site. !st time posting. I’m in a 12 team roto snake draft. Each team will have two infielders at each position, two catchers, five outfielders and ten pitchers, mix and match. Does your strategy stay the same as far as waiting on SP,3B and catchers? Thank you

    • Grey

      Grey says:
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      Thanks! I wouldn’t wait in 3B, I’d grab one early catcher and wait on pitchers the same way…

  62. Big Al says:
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    Nice to have the Top 400 as a base and guideline to use for my rankings. It’s amazing how people go crazy on comparing the different rankings. There guidelines and tools for you to use. Use the one’s that go with your thinking on rankings. After a few years you see whose rankings make more sense for you, by the results you get in your leagues. Because that’s what really counts in the end. Good work keep up the good work Grey. Enjoy the site.

    • Dead Heads says:
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      @Big Al: I second this post! Rankings aren’t set in stone, and that’s evident by the continuous rankings put out during the season. So just rework or rethink some guys you like better, but overall look at abunch of different rankings and figure out which ones line up with your thinking/strategy. Well said!

    • Grey

      Grey says:
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      Agreed and thanks!

  63. Dead Heads says:
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    Hmm I’m confused, I understand ranking Puig below Braun, but he is projected for 5 more steals and more HR’s and a higher BA. Is this on purpose? Or is he ranked lower because you feel it’s a lot more likely Puig under produces those numbers and Braun is pretty questionable on what he’s going to do but has been consistent for a lot of years?

    I actually think Braun picks up right where he left off, honestly I’m sure he has more than 1 PED supplier so if he’s really that terrible when he’s not on the stuff I would assume he would continue using them…

    • Grey

      Grey says:
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      Puig has more risk…

      • Dead Heads says:
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        @Grey: Ya it’s scary when someone has more risk than Braun, but it makes sense. Thanks for the clarification, I actually think Braun surprises people this year, and goes back to being the elite fantasy OF we all used to know and love(somewhat).

        • Grey

          Grey says:
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          No problem

  64. MattTruss

    MattTruss223 says:
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    Wonderful day Grey! Thanks for all your work man!

    Looks like Josmil Pinto got deleted off the list, FYI. Also, Satiago Casilla’s projections are all zeros.

    • Grey

      Grey says:
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      Pinto was deleted on purpose… Twins announced he’s not starting…. Will look at Casilla…

      • MattTruss

        MattTruss223 says:
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        @Grey: Doh! Missed that bit of info, thanks Grey!

        • Grey

          Grey says:
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          Casilla is being deleted… I originally had all RPs, then removed ones that didn’t make top 400 (ones not getting lots of saves)…

  65. Monkey Shines says:
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    Hey, someone might have already mentioned this in the comments, but an AL/NL filter would be pretty awesome.

    And thanks for all of this fantastic analysis. The website is top notch.

    • Grey

      Grey says:
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      Thanks! There will be AL/NL dedicated ones in the coming days…

  66. Sam says:
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    Thanks for the rankings. Which 4 would you keep for 4 yrs in a H2H 5×5 weekly league? Taveras, Springer, Rendon, T. Walker, Gray?

    • Grey

      Grey says:
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      Not Rendon

      EDITED. Made a typo

  67. SteveNZ says:
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    Congrats on the quantity of traffic.

    Pity about the quality of some it it.

    • Grey

      Grey says:
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      Ha

      • SteveNZ says:
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        @Grey: Funny to look back on some of those old ranking posts with their 11 comments. And four of those were from me, talking about food.

        • Grey

          Grey says:
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          HAHA… Yup

        • Carnac says:
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          HAHAHA

    • SteveNZ says:
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      @SteveNZ: of some *of* it.

  68. BigDeal says:
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    Who do you like more in a dynasty? Chris Tillman or Jered Weaver?

    I think you would say Tillman but not fully sure. You have Weaver rated higher for this season, but his declining velocity is a concern. On the other hand, Tillman pitches in AL East, but is younger.

    • Grey

      Grey says:
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      Tillman

      • BigDeal says:
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        @Grey:

        Thanks Grey. You the man. Hope I can get him to be my 3rd or 4th SP. All your young sleeper SPs that I wanted (Cole, Cobb, Salazar, Gray) were taken too early (#33-80) for my liking

  69. Mrs. Featherbottom says:
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    2014 Goal:
    Coin a new term for the Razzball glossary centered on the enigma known as Michael Brantley.

    • Grey

      Grey says:
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      Great idea!

  70. Mike says:
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    As always, your rankings are awesome. Any chance you’ll have a post comparing your rankings to some other ones out there?

  71. Bassfisher says:
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    Keep 5

    Trout
    Hanley
    Braun
    Craig
    Pujols
    Agon
    Desmond
    Mauer
    Lee
    Salazar

    Thanks for the hard work

    • Grey

      Grey says:
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      Go per my rankings…

      • costaricanchata says:
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        @Grey:

        huh ?
        where am i supposed to find those ??

        • Grey

          Grey says:
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          They’re above…

  72. Carnac says:
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    I tried making some Carnac Top 200 rankings last month. It was so, so hard. This list is truly a work of herculean (or sisyphean?) proportions. I tip my turban to you, old friend.

    Question for Grey: are those your auction values?

    • Grey

      Grey says:
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      Ha, thanks! They are my auction values…

      • Carnac says:
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        Very cool. Based on a roster/league size?

        Two, small potential troubleshooting spots I noticed: Middlebrooks is $-3 and Cingrani is $14. Both are in a sea of $11 guys.

        • Grey

          Grey says:
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          12 team… Will look at Middlebrooks and Cingrani, thanks!

  73. Smokey

    Smokey says:
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    Trolling your comment Grey

    Fernando Rodney signs with Mariners. Sorry Farquhar.

    • Grey

      Grey says:
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      Yeah, I gotta remove Farq from the rankings…

      • Carnac says:
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        Dark Carnac wonders if Seattle didn’t sign Rodney for his arm, but rather his knees. His strong, healthy, easily transplantable knees.

        • Grey

          Grey says:
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          If they sign an octopus next, I might wonder too…

        • Sky

          Sky says:
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          Ugh, Carnac…I’m just very thankful the ‘hawks won a championship in football. This season is gonna be rough. So much money to maybe reach .500…

          • Carnac says:
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            I know, it could be really bad this summer. On the one hand, that means cheap and available tickets. On the other, having to watch Rodney pitch the 9th. Or any inning ever.

            • Sky

              Sky says:
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              Whatever inning he pitches is the inning I’m getting more beer. I do think they’ll be better this year but still too many holes on offense. And now a hole in the 9th…that we didn’t really have before…

              • Carnac says:
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                That’s what kills me, the 9th inning wasn’t a problem that needed fixing. If you could call the addition of Rodney fixing anything. I guess moneyball is for NorCal… the Mariners play murderball. Because all their players are in wheel chairs. GROAN.

                Just saw: “Mariners ‘cautiously optimistic’ on Cruz”

                Yay!

                How often you make it up to games?

                • Sky

                  Sky says:
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                  Ha! Murderball…I love it.

                  I don’t make it up often at all but want to change all that this summer. It’s on the train line and a quick trip from Eugene, would like to get my wife up there with me a few times but they’d probably be mid-week games. She works weekends. Of course, if you wanna plan a PNW trip with me, I won’t turn you down. We keep threatening to get together, why not at a ball game, eh? You’re in Portland as it is, right?

                  • J-FOH says:
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                    @Sky: this isn’t turning into some strangers on a train thing?….murderball?….Rodney!!!

                    • Sky

                      Sky says:
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                      Nah, Sam L is gonna show up. Snakes On A Train, yo!

                  • Carnac says:
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                    Yup, I’m in Portland. Let’s do a PNW trip once all this snow (!) stops.

                    • Sky

                      Sky says:
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                      Yeah…seriously what is this? When did we move to the East side of the mountains and why was I not notified?

                • J-FOH

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                  @Carnac: I did my PNW trip and got stuck in Portland for the night, just missed the Hank the 3rd show and ended up at Dante’s for it was the only place near my hotel that had people with boobs in it.

    • costaricanchata says:
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      @Smokey:

      great .
      now he’ll get to shoot one of his freakin’ arrows at the aurora borealis .

    • Aubrey Plaza's Pillow says:
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      @Smokey: damn i was this close to betting that’s exactly what would happen, should’ve got down last week.

  74. costaricanchata says:
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    if i seem more cynical than usual ,
    it’s because some commenter (i won’t mention any names)
    stood his ground and refused to trade his mike trout .

    well , at least he’s a man of conviction .
    but that doesn’t really surprise me ,
    since he lives next door to a whole continent of ancestral convicts .

    • Grey

      Grey says:
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      Haha

      • costaricanchata says:
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        @Grey:

        seriously thought i had him this time around ,
        but he ain’t giving up trout until they’re both old and (ahem) grey .

        • Grey

          Grey says:
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          Haha… You can understand why he wouldn’t give him up since you were the one trying so hard to get him…

    • SteveNZ says:
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      @costaricanchata: That guy sounds like an intractable jackass. Surprised anyone would have him in a league.

      • costaricanchata says:
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        @SteveNZ:

        naw .
        he’s a patzer , compared to some of us .

          • Grey

            Grey says:
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            @Steve ESPN is open, could you set up the Original Recipe league with 2 DL slots and 180 starts as the only changes from default? Then put it into the spreadsheet…

            • SteveNZ says:
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              @Grey: Done. How do I get to the spreadsheet?

              • Grey

                Grey says:
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                I shared it with you… Let me know if you don’t get it…

                • SteveNZ says:
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                  @Grey: Got it. Think I’ve filled it correctly. Some of the instructions don’t quite match the columns, though…

                  • Grey

                    Grey says:
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                    Great, thanks, Steve!

                  • Grey

                    Grey says:
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                    Ah, yeah, Rudy wrote the instructions, will fix…

                    • SteveNZ says:
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                      @Grey: Typical. All about the data, doesn’t care about the user experience (emoticon)

                    • Grey

                      Grey says:
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                      Ha! *shakes fist*

  75. Robby D says:
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    We all hate the idea of busting on a top pick. Obviously we use these rankings juxtaposed against ESPN and Yahoo’s rankings. It allows me to generate value by taking a guy like Goldy last year in the 3rd-4th round (after testing it in mock drafts) and get first round value. It cost me on Ruttledge last year, but since I waited until round 20+ something in non-RCL leagues, it didn’t matter, because those are all expendable picks after 20+ and his ADP was like 220 something in ESPN if I remember correctly.

    But is there a term besides a st for picking a player in a specific round and having them bust not due to injury but just because they didn’t live up to the hype.

    For example, if Kershaw returns to a 2.25ish ERA guy with 200+ K’s and all the gravy peripherals, he will be solid fantasy value, but if you picked him 3rd overall and that nets you 20th+ overall fantasy value, he’s still technically a bust for where you picked him.

    Is there already a term for that kind of guy? Specifically not due to injury, but just hype?

    Use in a sentence: “Kershaw’s a stud, but in the first round he’s a _____!”

    Or: “I’m not buying the hype on Hamilton because of his hitting, in the 4th round he’s a _____”

    I was thinking Minedraft. Although after today, I guess a Bill James Special/sleeper may make more sense.

    • Grey

      Grey says:
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      Not sure on a term, but I think we can do better than your examples…

      • J-FOH says:
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        @Grey: paying Retail

        • costaricanchata says:
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          @J-FOH:

          that’s good .

  76. Oppo Taco says:
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    Profar/Boegarts/Ryan Zimmerman, can only keep 1. No prices and can keep forever. Zimmermans first half is usually terrible and I might end up moving him for a draft pick. Too risky relying on one of those youngsters as my final keeper?

  77. J-FOH says:
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    been sick all week and catching up on some TV, have you seen True Detective yet?

    • Grey

      Grey says:
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      Yeah, it’s great… Love Woody… Bit light on plot, but the creator says he doesn’t care about crime procedures, more about character…

      • J-FOH says:
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        @Grey: Both are good, plot needs more development but it’s really different and keeps the baby’s mama on the hook. Woody’s girlfriend is super hot with a great rack….BONUS!

        • Grey

          Grey says:
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          Yeah, score/score/double score on that… I like that it’s more thematic and character driven… The plot is from hunger…

          • J-FOH

            J-FOH says:
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            @Grey: I tell you one thing it makes me never want to leave New Orleans if I ever go to Louisiana. My dad told me if I ever go to the south to stay off the back roads, of course he’s the same man that would send me down to Florence and Normandie to work.

            • Grey

              Grey says:
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              Ha… Yeah, backwoods there gets scary…

  78. El grande says:
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    I have to choose one of the following players to keep. Who do you recommend Grey:
    Matt carpenter
    Zach Grienke
    Alex Gordon
    Kimbrel
    Chapman
    Gio

    All have 3 years eligibility except Grienke.
    5×5 league with wins, era, whip, sv, Ks
    Hr, RBI, runs, avg, SB

    Thx Grey

    • J-FOH says:
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      @El grande: what else are you keeping?

      • El grande says:
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        @J-FOH: @Grey: other keepers miggie, votto, Freeman’s, and segura. It’s my last keeper Im worried about.

        Does having those others change anything? I’m still leaning gordon/kimbrel

        • Grey

          Grey says:
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          I’d lean the same way

    • Grey

      Grey says:
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      Gordon…Don’t love the choices…

      • El grande says:
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        @Grey: other keepers miggie, votto, Freeman’s, and segura. It’s my last keeper Im worried about.

        Thx Grey

  79. Dubbs says:
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    RuggiaNooooooo any thoughts on why he didn’t make the top 400? A question of playing time perhaps?

    • J-FOH says:
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      @Dubbs: he’s not worth drafting, hit .222 last year, if anything he can be a streamer on an off day in a favorable match-up.

    • Grey

      Grey says:
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      He’s a bench bat as of right now

  80. fitz says:
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    I will be wasting my last pick on Grady Sizemore

    • J-FOH says:
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      @fitz: he could be the great zombkneeno

    • Grey

      Grey says:
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      Nice

  81. Milarky says:
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    I’ve read you loud and clear on your preference to wait for pitching. I’m in a league with virtually no waiver claims (2 total) and everyone keeps 2 pitchers. My two keepers are Greinke and Anibal. Given that we can’t stream and that my keepers aren’t the best, do you still follow the same strategy, or are you more likely to prioritize a pitcher earlier than in a ‘normal’ format?

    • Grey

      Grey says:
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      You have two number ones already… But I have no idea how many teams in your league…

      • Milarky says:
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        @Grey: 12 team league, and we start 6 SPs.

  82. Joe Mother says:
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    grey!
    Foreva keeper…so, which keeper squad would you rather have? i have one of these 4, and can make deals to get to the other four – rounds you can keep in parenthesis sir. thanks for all you do.

    Tulo (3), Ian Desmond (24), JoFer (27), Gyorko (27)
    or
    JUpton(3), Machado (24), Bogaerts (27), Gyorko (27)

    is desmond too redundant b/c of tulo? orrr

    • Grey

      Grey says:
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      Desmond

  83. Clemente says:
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    grey, are you down on machado only for this year? or do you just think he kind of sucks/overrated in general? What im asking is, i have him cheap in my auction league…stick it out or abandon ship while i can get something good

    • Count de Monetball says:
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      @Clemente: Grey noted in his 3rd Basemen rankings “Probably would’ve ranked Machado above Wright if he didn’t get hurt going into the offseason. I love Machado like a mother chicken loves her mothereffin’ eggs, but, for this year, I’m passing on him in drafts.” – Thus his injury is scary for 2014. Further, I recently read that Machado said he “may have to relearn to run after having several injuries”. Not sure I remember where i read that, but yeah he has a lot of risk for 2014. Should be fine in the future, but I also read that the O’s are trying to sign Hardy to an extension, so it looks like Macho Man will stay at third…

      • goodfold2 says:
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        @Count de Monetball: what are the several injuries? i only remember one.

    • Grey

      Grey says:
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      Yup, for this year

  84. John says:
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    okay then to trade pagan for boni?

    • goodfold2 says:
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      @John: boni isn’t starting as of now (i.e. you should be able to get more in boneface deal)

  85. costaricanchata says:
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    @ Grey :

    made the deal for goldschmidt .
    sent craig , archer , and felix .

    since we can only keep 10 players ,
    this allows me to retain cano and add cobb to my keepers .
    would rather he have taken trumbo instead of craig , but ,
    an over-pay is an over-pay is an over-pay .

  86. MB says:
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    Which side you want for not just this yr but next three or so?

    Gardner/Des Jennings

    A Jax/Howie K

    The Team getting Howie K only has Ackley at 2B

    Keep everyone forever league

    Thank you

  87. Alex says:
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    Yo Grey, appreciate all the amazing work.

    How would you rank these in a dynasty startup?

    Davis
    Votto
    Hanley
    Braun
    E5
    Longo
    Cano
    Prince
    Gomez
    Stanton
    Puig

    Gracias

  88. J-FOH says:
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    RCL’s!

  89. RicoSuave says:
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    Can this list be applied to H2H , points format? if not, what is the difference? or what changes could I make?
    Thanks in advance

  90. Nate says:
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    Hey Grey, I appreciate your work as always and love your rankings… I also really liked your starting blurb about how much latitude there is and when… would you consider doing a post on how far you’re willing to “reach”.

    I mean clearly you have Gyorko/Cobb/Teheran etc alot higher than most ESPN/Yahoo lists, which means that’s where the value is… but where would you plan on drafting, let’s say Gyorko. You have him ranked 88th, and yahoo has him at 177 – if you draft him at 88 you don’t necessarily get “value” on him, you’re just making the right pick… would you wait until 120-140 when you’re in danger of losing them to another keener?

    Last year I relied heavily on your rankings (which helped, so thanks) and I reached for Machado, Harvey, Moore and Ike Davis … 2 worked out great, 1 was on par and one was a bad investment… overall win. But as I looked back i couldn’t help but wonder did I reach too early… could I have waited an extra round or two…

    Thoughts? (For Grey and others if you’ve created any rules for this sort of thing)

    • goodfold2 says:
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      @Nate: in ron shandler’s this year (baseball forecaster) there is a GREAT formula that you can plug into excel (i need to learn excel) wherein you figure out a player’s ADP, when he was drafted first to find out his standard deviation. from there you can find out what likelihood a player is able to be drafted at. So you could find out how likely you could get Gyorko, at say, 120th, or 140th. then simply grab him at whatever reasonable spot you’re willing to gamble at.

  91. yerg kcuf says:
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    I would have flip flopped danny espinosa and brandon crawford…but thats just me

  92. Bassfisher says:
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    Regarding Sonny Gray Grey

    I want to go to Colorado on/with him as much as you do but I am hesitant after looking at his opponents when he started.

    Houston twice
    Seattle twice
    Minnesota twice
    Tampa bay
    Angles
    Baltimore- probably strongest of the 10 and gave up 6 in 3.1
    Toronto

    No tigers, rangers, Red Sox, Yankees
    Angles mariners rangers within division will have better lineups
    Road era and whip were unrespectable 3.86 and 1.41, respectively

    I just don’t have the sac to believe in him as much due to those facts… Cause for concern?

    • goodfold2 says:
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      @Bassfisher: ubaldo’s schedule at end of year was even easier (just to bring up similar point to anyone claiming ubaldo “learned something”, or “remembered something” in last 2 or so months of last year)

    • Grey

      Grey says:
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      Who’s he facing in his first start?

      • Bassfisher says:
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        @Grey: Cleveland or Seattle’s improved lineup

  93. tank1 says:
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    Keeper question. I have the following options in 11 team 6×6 mixed league. I can keep 5 guys. Their draft rounds are listed in parentheses. Thanks.

    M. Cabrera (1)
    A. Jones (5)
    C. Davis (9)
    H. Bailey (14)
    Y. Molina (20)
    A. Hill (23)
    B. Hamilton (24)
    D. Salazer (25)

    • Grey

      Grey says:
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      Miggy, A. Jones, Davis, Hamilton, Bailey

  94. Peter Nincompoop says:
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    I know you hate keeper questions, so I’m going to use up my 2014 allotment and just get it over with so we can move on to debating why Xander Bogaerts is ranked #276. I’m in a long term 10-team league where you keep six players (at least two pitchers and two hitters). I have a good problem, in that I have too many guys to decide between and will more than likely trade a couple of them away for upgrades and/or draft picks, but as it stands, which six would you keep out of the following group:

    Hitters (pick 4)- McCutcheon, Fielder, Cano, Puig, Beltre, Han-Ram and Marte.
    Pitchers (pick 2)- Price, Gonzalez, Liriano, Bailey, Zimmerman and Weaver.

    I’m going to be throwing the vast majority of these guys into the draft, so their fetching price with my competitors has deflated, but I do have two offers I’m mulling over. First, Fielder, Han-Ram and Gio Gonzalez for Troy Tulowitzki and Chris Sale. Second, Han-Ram and Gio Gonzalez for Max Scherzer.

    Your opinion on the aforementioned and/or ideas on other trades, as always, is much appreciated.

    Your my boy, Blue.

    • Grey

      Grey says:
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      You do have too many guys… Here’s 6: McCutchen, Fielder, Cano, Puig… Gio, Price… The 2nd trade sounds good…

  95. Matt says:
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    I’m in a 15 man weekly roto league, (6×6, OBP league) must draft 2 of every IF spot (C,1b,2b,3b,ss), 4 OF, 5 SP, 3 RP, $300 auction budget, must keep 10 keepers, active roster 1 C,1b,2b,3b,,ss,CI,MI, 3OF,5SP, 3RP and my keepers are looking like $13 J.Lucroy, $13 Mark Tex, $9 Matt Carpenter, $1 Machado, $6 Alcides Escobar, $6 Puig, $15 Carlos Gomez, $26 Choo, $6 Beachy, do you suggest I adhere to the $70/$30 split for hitters, try and craft a Murderer’s Row, or try and make my team balanced? (Top pitchers like Waino, Stras, Sale, J-Fernandez, Cole, Wacha, Iwakuma, Medlen, Price are kept and I don’t really feel like spending $40 or more on Kershaw or a declining Verlander). Thanks again for all your work!

    • Grey

      Grey says:
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      Make your team balanced

      • Matt says:
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        @Grey: thanks Grey, so spending $35+ for a Kershaw/Felix/Darvish type would be a necessity in my case?

        • Grey

          Grey says:
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          Yup

  96. Micah Stupak says:
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    Man, dilemma. Check this:

    20 team, $260 budget, 5×5, and the only stat change that matters for our needs is K goes to K/9 and it’s not Sv but Sv+Hd

    I’ve got my keepers looking great*, but the end of pitching is a head-scratcher. I’m keeping Scherzer ($28), Fister ($12) and Teheran ($1). I can only keep one of Porcello ($6), Masterson ($7), and Kluber ($1). What to do? I am inclined towards Porcello for immediate upside, as I think the upgraded Detroit defense will be awesome for him, but Kluber is cheaper and maybe better in the long run.

    * R/RBI/SB/OBP/SLG: my batters are fantastic: W Rosario, Goldy, E Cabrera, Beltre, Pence, Heyward, C Carter. All for $143.

    • Grey

      Grey says:
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      Your pitching is fine already… Keep Kluber…

      • Micah Stupak says:
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        @Grey: Great, thanks Grey.

        • Grey

          Grey says:
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          No problem

  97. Mevs says:
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    Prince still in the top 10? C’mon, go out on a limb. He’s not finishing in the top 10 this season. This isn’t as bad as Rotoworld or anything but you’re being too safe with a lot of this IMO.

  98. Mike B says:
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    Dearest Grey, I have a groupon discount for jamba juice with your name on it if you can shed a little more light on your Hamels ranking. My apologies if that’s been touched on already. I did my best to read through the majority of comments, but I only got through the first million(they say that’s the hardest). I understand he had a terrible start last year and has a slight downward trend in numbers, but he seemed to stabilize and has been solid for a few years in most categories. I am in QS leagues, so I understand if the wins are an issue given the phils offense. Ranking at 35 among starters and 126 overall strikes me as a strong do not draft from you. Fun to see the tiers and overall rankings. Thanks for all the hard work and insight!

    • Grey

      Grey says:
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      I wrote an overrated post on Hamels specifically, and I’ll post it in the next week or so…

      • Mike B says:
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        @Grey: Thanks!

  99. Phil says:
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    I’m assuming it’s a mistake but you have Tanaka in your Top 40 SP but not your top 400 players? Where should he be on this list?

    • Grey

      Grey says:
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      That’s weird, I’ll correct it… He’s listed at 104 on my 400…I’ll need to ping Rudy…

    • Grey

      Grey says:
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      @Phil: It’s fixed, thanks for pointing it out!

  100. Jose Can't I See? says:
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    Looks like Jose Abreu is AWOL at #63.

    • Jose Can't I See? says:
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      @Jose Can’t I See?:

      Also, there is no #240. It could be that there is no #240 in the number system and I just hadn’t noticed. If so, please disregard.

  101. Jason says:
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    If WHIP was not a concern. How different would your rankings be? I play in a league where we do not count WHIP.

  102. Chis says:
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    Just discovered your site today and have burnt 6 hours already! Thanks for the great work. Noticed # 62 and 102 are missing – player deleted or just misnumbered?

    • Grey

      Grey says:
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      Thanks for the kind words! Due to international players not having ‘player pages’ we’ve been having problems with them getting deleted… 62 is Abreu and 102 is Tanaka… We’re gonna try to add them back in again…

    • Chis says:
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      @Chis: also 240.

      • Chis says:
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        @Chis: And I see this was answered a few posts above…..

        • Grey

          Grey says:
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          It was fixed…

  103. RicoSuave says:
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    Hi Grey,
    Wow, this is a lot of work man! AWESOME work…
    I’ve enjoyed your projections and player write-ups and I’ve learned and enjoyed the great articles.
    I need your help though, I’m in a 14 team H2H points league C/1B/2B/SS/3B/3 OF/5 SP/2 RP(closers) / 5 Bench players, based on my league setup and your players projections what changes do you think I should make when it comes to draft day?
    Thanks a lot

    • Grey

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      Thanks! I wouldn’t change anything per se, I’d just make sure which guys to focus on at any given moment… You should have one ace, one Cole tier pitcher and follow my pairings just leaving off a guy at the end… Hitters are a bit shallower in your league… 14 team, 3 OF, isn’t really that different than 12 team 5 OF though…

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