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Okay, we have to talk about Cal Raleigh (3-for-3, 4 RBIs and his 15th, 16th and 17th homer). I should’ve told you to drop him April. Maybe that would’ve got him going earlier. When not accounting for injury, this season is the worst follow-up to a MVP-like year ever. I can’t think of many that even come close, to be honest. I’ve heard Brady Anderson thrown about in comparison, but he wasn’t that bad after his huge year. Cal went from a 9.1 WAR to 0.9 (as of yesterday). That’s insane. Only names I’ve heard that even come close are Joe Charboneau going from Rookie of the Year to trivia question in three years; Chris Davis from 53 homers and .286 to 26 HRs and .196, and Zoilo Versailles from MVP to “How’d he win MVP?” That’s it. I’m willing to hear more examples but that’s all I got. That’s not a great list to be on! In the preseason I said, Cal Raleigh was overrated and should not be drafted. I also said I wouldn’t write a full overrated post for him because what’s the point? He’s a catcher, don’t draft him, move on. Even I didn’t foresee a fall-off like this. He’s fallen off so hard I wouldn’t be surprised if he’s actually underrated next year. Figure he’s the same as he’s always been, 30 HRs, .230 hitter who was lucky in 2025 and unlucky in 2026. There’s value to that, just not at 20 overall in drafts. People really did lose their minds. Like when I bought all these 1980 Joe Charboneau rookie cards. Anyone interested? You just have to pay for shipping. Anyway, here’s what else I saw yesterday in fantasy baseball:

Bryce Miller – Revealed he’s been pitching through a lat injury for a month. Too bad the M’s didn’t have a prospect in the minors they could’ve called up to lift some of the pressure off Miller. Very cool that a guy with elbow concerns favors his other lat and that won’t cause more issues down the road. Nah! This is great! Everything’s great!

Cole Young – 1-for-4 and his 16th homer, hitting .251. I’ll let it go after this but Cole Young is having an okay season. Nothing incredible. Around 185 overall on the Player Rater. Cal Raleigh was 200 spots after that, prior to last night!

Julio Rodriguez – 2-for-5, 2 runs, 3 RBIs and his 20th homer. Does JRod know the 2nd half started about five weeks ago? Is he JRip Van Winkle? Does he plan on playing Winter Ball and being the MVP in Venezuela? I got questions, y’all!

Logan Gilbert – 5 IP, 2 ER, 7 baserunners, 5 Ks, ERA at 3.36. When everyone is saying all the M’s are struggling this year, Randy Arozarena and Gilbert must be singing Kendrick’s Not Like Us.

Zack Wheeler – 4 IP, 8 ER, ERA at 3.40. Ya know who’s had a miserable last month? You’re gonna be awestruck when I tell you who it is. You literally will never guess–You guessed Wheeler? How’d you know? Was it because I was in this blurb? Okay, fair play, son! And five daughters. On the 30-day Player Rater, Wheeler’s been one of the worst pitchers in baseball with George Kirby, Paul Skenes and Jacob deGrom. Just as you threw it up.

J.T. Realmuto – 1-for-3 and his 9th homer. Jerry Tomato ketchup’d to that pitch!

Framber Valdez – 6 IP, 3 ER, 10 baserunners, zero Ks, ERA at 4.35. Being generous by saying Framber looked worse than the line. Let’s just say I can’t believe he only allowed three earned. I’m not a fan. Was, but no more. He burned me bad this year. A burn I don’t soon forget. Literally writing this word-for-word in my burn book.

Jonathan Aranda – 1-for-4, 2 RBIs and his 16th homer. He has a solid amount of RBIs (78), so I went to look at the RBI leaders, and I figured Yordan would be on top. He is. Dot dot dot. For the AL. There’s four guys above Yordan for RBIs. Well, there was at least, yesterday early evening.

Drew Rasmussen – 6 IP, 1 ER, 3 hits, zero walks, 5 Ks, ERA at 2.95. Not to be outdone by Brew Rasmussen, I see. Perhaps most impressively he threw 103 pitches. His season high.

Kevin Gausman – 7 IP, 0 ER, 4 baserunners, 6 Ks, ERA at 4.37. Oh, now he’s good! Wait, is he just roping us in for his next start? Gausdamnit!

Michael Conforto – 3-for-3, 2 runs, 2 RBIs and his 12th homer, 2nd homer in two games. Hot schmotato alert!

Ketel Marte – The Challenge’s Torey Lovullo said Marte would return next week. He was spotted at a casino the day he went on the IL. He was playing the Don’t come (to games) line.

Chase Burns – 3 2/3 IP, 5 ER, ERA at 2.77. He’s one of those guys who’s been out-performing his pitching by so much with a low ERA that no one has questioned him at all, but he is pitching like a 3.70 ERA guy, which is not remotely what we thought he would be.

Willy Adames – Hit the IL with an elbow sprain. Willy? No, more like Won’t-he Adames.

Rafael Devers – 2-for-4, 2 runs, 3 RBIs and his 27th homer. Devers delivers!

Parker Messick – 6 IP, 1 ER, 4 baserunners, 4 Ks, ERA at 2.50. To use a pitcher who I just mentioned as a comparison, Messick over Burns. Not sure if anyone would’ve said that a few months ago. Or even now.

George Klassen – 5 1/3 IP, 2 ER, 9 baserunners, 3 Ks, ERA at 3.67. Doing one of the most batshizz crazy streams in a while, as I have Klassen in a two-start week. It feels so nuts that a 5 1/3 IP, 2 ER start feels like victory number one. Just one more!

Endy Rodriguez – Might need surgery on his hip. Boyz II Men, “Come to the Endy of the road…”

Esmerlyn Valdez – 1-for-3 and his 15th homer, hitting .249. Hey, it’s Mr. Four Weeks Ago! Hey, Mr. Four Weeks Ago, say hello to your mother for me!

Braxton Ashcraft – 6 IP, 1 ER, 5 baserunners, 2 Ks, ERA at 3.59. Ashcraft took the life out of the Padres, who yesterday introduced their new owner, Kwanza and Jose Feliciano, which sounds like answers on the $25,000 Pyramid for Things Heard In December.

Robbie Ray – 5 1/3 IP, 2 ER, 7 baserunners, 5 Ks, ERA at 3.21. Wonder if Kwanza got a gander at Robbie’s pants. That’s a ‘chile’ I can imagine being said.

Zebby Matthews – 7 IP, 1 ER, 7 baserunners, 7 Ks, ERA at 4.86. If you started Zebby in Bing Bong, I know you’re not wearing Robbie Ray’s pants ‘chile,’ because your grapes ain’t fitting in there.

Kaelen Culpepper – 4-for-5, 1 run, 1 RBI, hitting .340. He’s having a nice little first month. Cust kayin’.

Cade Cavalli – 6 IP, 2 ER, 6 baserunners, 7 Ks, ERA at 3.21. I love him, but this was against the Suckies. Wait, hold on, checking something. Yes, I’m being told, that vs. the Suckies on the road counts. Streamonator, by the by, loves all starters vs. the road Suckies, as it should.

Daylen Lile – 3-for-5, 2 runs, 5 RBIs and a slam (16) and legs (13). I had him for months on my RCL team so I know how boring he can be, but he’s also a top 25 outfielder this year. Assuming teams in your league carry more than two outfielders, he’s rosterable, easily.

Willi Castro – 1-for-4 and his 15th homer. He has more than twice as many homers as Vlad Jr. It’s the end of August! Time travel back to March and tell someone that and they’ll punch you so hard in the mouth that you traveled all the way back to March and the only information you have for them is Vlad Jr. and Willi Castro’s power output.

Ezequiel Tovar – 2-for-2, and his 10th homer, hitting .209. Guessing this was the most homers for the Suckies in a road game ever. It’s merely a guess! Don’t hold me to it.

Jake Burger – 2-for-3, 2 RBIs and his 22nd homer. That was his first hit since last Tuesday and he’s barely hitting above .200 in August with three homers and a steal. He hit .174 in July. He hit .170 in April. So, May and June were the months to grab a Burger.

Wyatt Langford – 2-for-5, 2 runs, 2 RBIs and his 15th homer, hitting .253. There’s a blast from the past. Where’s he been? Hitting .167 in August? Oh, that’s where he’s been.

Kumar Rocker – 5 2/3 IP, 2 ER, 8 baserunners, 8 Ks, ERA at 4.41. Streamonator says he gets the Brewers at home next time, and I say I hope you have better options.

Tristan Peters – 1-for-4, 2 RBIs and his 10th homer, 3rd homer in three games. Yesterday, I said hot schmotato alert. I also picked him up in one league. Today, I’m saying same same.

Ranger Suarez – 5 IP, 1 ER, 8 baserunners (4 BBs), 4 Ks, ERA at 3.35. Um, four walks is disturbing. Yes, disturbing. Like when your wife says she has an appointment for a massage. In her car. Disturbing.

Sandy Alcantara – 7 IP, 1 ER, 8 baserunners, 6 Ks, ERA at 3.38. He’s made himself a nice little niche — the reliable starter who could luck into 15 wins and a 3.20 ERA, throwing 200 IP. It’s not nothing, even though I do often make like it is. I do think it’s slightly overrated, but reliability in the days of “120 innings sounds excellent” is a good thing.

Pete Fairbanks – Left the game with a trainer. Did he leave because the trainer had him in a league and he wanted him out of the game because it was a non-save chance? Maybe? Please? No? Okay. Fairbanks has a nerve issue, that’s bothered him in the past, so he’s going to need an IL stint, likely. I guess Calvin Faucher, but that shouldn’t sound like a ringing endorsement because it’s not. It’s barely me whispering the word ‘endorsement’ into a bottle and tossing it into the sea.

Kyle Stowers – 1-for-4 as he was activated from the IL. He has 16 homers and one steal in 400+ plate appearances. In other words, you don’t need to pick him up or play him if you’re in a shallow league. In related Marlins news, they fired their entire scouting department. That must’ve been what it felt like to get fired as a janitor at Enron. You might’ve been in charge of cleaning up a mess, but not *the* mess.

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hondo
hondo
1 month ago

Are you at the point yet where you are baking in the remaining strength of schedule when answering?

uncle ernie
uncle ernie
1 month ago

Afternoon Grey. Please rank these upcoming starts this week. Griffin home vs KC. Grant Holmes home vs Rockies. McClanahan home vs San Diego. Detmers home vs Phillies. Thanks

uncle ernie
uncle ernie
Reply to  Grey
1 month ago

Any consideration for Griffin Thanks

Dancin Homer
1 month ago

Afternoon & Happy Kiss and Make Up Day!

I really wish I woulda kissed and made up with Dumper before cutting him Sunday… Doh!!

Anyway, I was forced to add some bats at the expense of SP and now I need to cut 1-2. Full (bat) roster below, who you giving the kiss of death and cutting?

C: I. Herrera
1B: Yandy
2B: Sal Stewart
3B: Machado
SS: Xavier Edwards
OF: Simpson, Spencer Jones, Josh Baez
UTL: Ohtani, Seager
BN: Wetherholt, Cags (DTD), L. Butler
 
IL: Wood 

Thank you,

prestige
prestige
1 month ago

any faith in Smith-Shawver home vs dodgers in 15 teamer?

Cable
Cable
1 month ago

H/h points

Double starts next week

Boyd .. home Brewers / away Marlins
Lambert…. home CWS/ home Arizona

Kneel Before Zod
1 month ago

Grey, if Glasnow and Skenes replicate tonight what Burns & Wheeler did to my ratios last night, I’m giving up and joining a Fantasy Golf League. Know of any openings?

Kneel Before Zod
Reply to  Grey
1 month ago

Excellent…my 1st round pick is [Les Nessman delivery] Chy Chy Rod-reh-gueez

Kneel Before Zod
Reply to  Grey
1 month ago

HAHA…Payne Stewart, RIP…Classic. Speaking of funny pants – watching Jazz Chisholm – it’s like the Yankees ran out of “Small” and gave him an “XXL”. Sorry, son, we got a bulk deal suiting up Judge, Stanton and Jones…

prestige
prestige
1 month ago

Can you rank these starts: D May @Mets, Cantillo @Angels, G Rodridguez home vs Guardians and Stock home vs Brewers

prestige
prestige
Reply to  Grey
1 month ago

I know, trying to find something! Where would Roki @Braves rank in there

Henry
Henry
1 month ago

Would you start kirby at home.vs Philly. Over under was 7.5 moved to 8

Cable
Cable
1 month ago

12 team redraft h/h points start 5 SPers per week … can use Lambert SP/RP as a RPer who has a double start next week both home against White Sox and Arizona or just stay with either T Megill or C Smith as my one closer .. if I use Lambert as a double start that would give me 11 SPers next week without using him it would give me 9 double starts

Cable
Cable
Reply to  Grey
1 month ago

It’s playoff semi ..

MartinRostoker@aol.com
1 month ago

Hi Grey,

I always appreciate your help and honesty! Would you pick up Griffin Jax or Joe Musgrove?

If you say yes, who would you drop among Framber Valdez, Christian Scott, Trevor Rodgers, Sasaki and Painter?

Thanks so much for all your help!

MartinRostoker@aol.com
Reply to  Grey
1 month ago

Thanks!!

Tj81
Tj81
1 month ago

Stowers or Lile for the POs. Could use a little power. Wouldn’t sneeze at some speed!

VinWins
1 month ago

My favorite Dolly songs:

It’s All Wrong, But It’s Alright
Love Is Like a Butterfly
9 To 5
Light of a Clear Blue Morning
Two Doors Down
Eagle When She Flies
To Daddy
Old Flames (Can’t Hold a Candle to You)

MartinRostoker@aol.com
Reply to  Grey
1 month ago

Thanks to paying tribute to such a legend!

The Judge
The Judge
Reply to  Grey
1 month ago

I Will Always Love You
Coat of Many Colors

hal_incandenza
Reply to  VinWins
1 month ago

Been around long enough to remember the Nine to Five and The Best Little Whorehouse in Texas movies. Hell, I had the soundtrack to TBLWIT. So when Whitney had the hit with I Will Always Love You, those of us familiar with the movie knew it was Dolly song before they told us.

Which also reminds me of Charles Durning, who played the Governor in Whorehouse and would play a similar role as Pappy O’Daniels in Oh Brother, Where Art Thou a mere 18 years later.

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Brian F
Brian F
1 month ago

1st week of playoffs so could be my Last. Would you drop Stowers for a conforto, peters, burger?

toolshed
1 month ago

By the way, I’ve got some Gregg Jefferies and Kevin Maas rookies to sell. I was planning on retiring on those.

Kneel Before Zod
Reply to  toolshed
1 month ago

I’ll give you one of my Delmon Young’s and Andy Marte’s…2-for-2 trade. Deal?

Kneel Before Zod
Reply to  Kneel Before Zod
1 month ago

…oh wait, I’ll sweeten my side with a Rick Ankiel. Now we’re good.

Kneel Before Zod
Reply to  Grey
1 month ago

…while we’re on the SP side, my boy Timmy Lincecum went from “we’re going to rename the Cy Young trophy – to winning a Lincecum” to a Fred Willard A Mighty Wind “Wha’ Happened?” Once he got caught with Bellinger’s Kush stash it all went downhill. I couldn’t quit him in Fantasy…grr!

Stumanji!
Stumanji!
Reply to  Grey
1 month ago

D’Meat Hook!

200 Proof
200 Proof
1 month ago
  1. Jeffers or Kirk ROS at C?
  2. Please rank ROS: Arenado, R Lewis, Moniak, Edman?
  3. Are you sick of us saying ROS and it should be assumed that your requested opinions are ROS unless specifically requested otherwise?

Thanks!

toolshed
1 month ago

One guy that I thought about here is Khris Davis. He was not mvp level, but we knew what he would do. Hit .247 and hit 40+ and drive in 100+ every year until he didn’t. He’s been out of baseball for 5 years and he is only 38. I know it isn’t the same, but every time I hear Chris Davis, it always makes me remember the guy named Khris

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Kneel Before Zod
Reply to  toolshed
1 month ago

…and I just thought of the 2012 >>> 2013 Josh Hamilton cliff drop. Wow, if only that guy could’ve beat his demons; he was talented.

AnteJ Galic
AnteJ Galic
1 month ago

Grey!

Enron blurb had me chuckling hard!

Thank you much.

Cheers,
Ante

AnteJ Galic
AnteJ Galic
Reply to  Grey
1 month ago

Grey,

Reading you and listening to Keith Jarrett’s 1975 Köln Concert and you come out on top. No slight on Keith Jarrett because I love him, just love you more.

Cheers,
Ante

AnteJ Galic
AnteJ Galic
Reply to  Grey
1 month ago

Grey!

You can add Stephen Charles “Bye Bye” Balboni to the list. He had that monster year of 36HR/.243 in 1985 and did well in their WS comeback against the Cards; he was gone by 1990 with a 0.170 BA and 17HR. He turns 70 next January 16.

A friend from a neighbouring village, health nut professional tennis player then turned professional tennis coach, died of a massive coronary on the steps leading to his front porch. He had complained to friends about peripheral pain in his hand but didn’t get it checked out. Could’ve been heart-related. Still, he passed away at 58 years young. That’s way too young to die.

Cheers,
Ante

dubjay
dubjay
1 month ago

Hey Grey,
I am looking to pickup an arm for my fantasy playoffs starting next week. Who would you roll the dice on?
PAINTER
QUANTRILL
BUEHLER
Z.MATTHEWS

Also, which closer would you go with?
N.PEARSON
H.HARRIS
D.SMITH
DUARTE
BEETER

Dubjay
Dubjay
Reply to  Grey
1 month ago

so nice I did it thrice.
sorry Grey

Brad
Brad
1 month ago

Hey Grey. In the playoffs of a weekly H2H points league. Would you start Glasnow vs. ATL or Kyle Harrison vs. Mets?? Not sure if either one will get a second start on Sunday.

dubjay
dubjay
1 month ago

Hey Grey,
I am looking to pickup an arm for my fantasy playoffs starting next week. Who would you roll the dice on?
PAINTER
QUANTRILL
BUEHLER
Z.MATTHEWS

Also, which closer would you go with?
N.PEARSON
H.HARRIS
D.SMITH
DUARTE
BEETER

Jasen
Jasen
1 month ago

Hey Grey,
I am looking to pickup an arm for my fantasy playoffs starting next week. Who would you roll the dice on?
PAINTER
QUANTRILL
BUEHLER
Z.MATTHEWS

Also, which closer would you roll the dice on?
N.PEARSON
H.HARRIS
D.SMITH
DUARTE
BEETER

bsnyder7
bsnyder7
1 month ago

Redraft

  1. Trout or Adell? Thanks.
  2. 3 SPs (Rasmussen, Messick, Gilbert) combine for 4 ER. Beautiful start to the week. Then RP (Gomez) allows 4 ER in .2 IP. The dreaded closer pitching in non-save spot. Grrr…
Dirt McGirt
Dirt McGirt
1 month ago

Playoffs 16 team H2H OPS, K/9. During playoffs can only add players if someone is placed on IL

Need to keep three: Clay Holmes, Cory Bradford, Justin Martinez, Nasim Nunez, Larnach, Peter Lambert, Dustin May

My hitters:
C: Baldwin
1b: Luju, Micheal Busch
2b: Jazz, Nunez,
SS: Elly
3b. JoRam
OF: Larnach, Yordan, Bauers, Soto (IL), Jake McCarthy, Zac Gelof
DH: Ohtani

Pitchers:
SP: Sale, Ashcraft, Detmers, Trevor Rogers, Foster Griffin, Sean Burke, Dustin May, Fried (IL), Flaherty (IL)
RP: Latz, Chapman, Pagan, Mason Montgomery, Bryan Baker

Dirt McGirt
Dirt McGirt
Reply to  Grey
1 month ago

Arms likely, next round (if I get there) probably will need a bit more power and SB. This league is unique in that outfield assist, double-plays, and errors are also a stat. Last year I won the semi-final by a single error

Dirt McGirt
Dirt McGirt
Reply to  Grey
1 month ago

That is what I am thinking. Appreciate the feedback

tigres
tigres
1 month ago

Hey Grey! I dumped Dumper for Dingler a few months back. Because I need to make sure my catcher slot involves potty humor somehow. And speaking of which, should I start Boyd at ARI tomorrow?

tigres
tigres
Reply to  tigres
1 month ago

Roup vs CIN would be an alternative. Or just no one.

Little Jerry Seinfeld
Little Jerry Seinfeld
Reply to  Grey
1 month ago

Roupp at home vs CIN or Grayson home vs. CLE?

Fred Garvin MP
1 month ago

Cause I spit hot fire.

Daylen
Joe Beisbol
Joe Beisbol
1 month ago

No question, just a whine. If you would have told me in March that a 12-team roto squad featuring J-Ram, Carroll, Turner, Wood, Webb, Freeman, Merrill, Springer, and Acuña would barely be holding on to 5th place, I would have taken out a second loan on the house and put it all down.

jamestcullen63@gmail.com
1 month ago

Pitch Skenes (traded for him to try to save my pitching) in San Diego? Streamonater loves it..im not so sure.

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Roy Hobbs
Roy Hobbs
1 month ago

Langford or Devers ROS 5×5 cats?

Pops
Pops
1 month ago

Cmon, man. You made up Zoilo Versalles. There’s no way that’s a real na…[wikipedia search] holy crap

The Judge
The Judge
Reply to  Grey
1 month ago

Great Minnesota team in 1965. Killebrew,Allison,Pascual and yes Versailles. Done in by Koufax in the World Series.

The Judge
The Judge
Reply to  Grey
1 month ago

Can’t forget Oliva,Kaat and Mudcat. Zoilo came up as Zorro.

Mangs
1 month ago

Hey Grey
Please rank top 3 (for a 10tm H2H redraft) for who has solid metrics under the hood and is reliable (ROS). NOTE: Good reliable, cause he could suck and still be reliable, but sucky reliable..lol.
1) Holmes 2) Taj-Mah(fill in adj) 3)Seymour 4) Didier Fuentes 5) McClanahan 6) Eovaldi

Mangs
Reply to  Grey
1 month ago

Thanks! Seymour is @DET today, but not showing on the BOT.n Would you start?

Mangs
Reply to  Grey
1 month ago

Thank you!!

southpaw004
1 month ago

Someone dropped Ketel One. All in or fold?

crenshaw07
crenshaw07
1 month ago

Tawa or Royce ROS points?

Daze
Daze
1 month ago

Grey
Who would your top 2 to pick up be

Jacob Lopez home vs Orioles (His record @ home is 0-3, 5.51 era , 1.45 whip)
Andrew Painter @ Angels
Grayson Rodriguez home vs Cleveland
Jared Jones @ STL

Dave D
Dave D
1 month ago

Good read! Thanks for the trip through past disappointments! Minor consolation to my mediocre fantasy campaign: I also didn’t touch Raleigh this year.

I am adding a name to the list: Alvin Davis

His rookie year at 23 in 1984 he had a 6.0 WAR. The following three years he played full seasons that anounted to a combined 6.1 WAR. He was not a total flame out but his rookie year was easily his best.

And long before Mark McGwire there was a man named Ron. Anyone remember Ron Kittle? He hit 35 homers his rookie year. Then follow up with 32, 26, 21, 17, 12.

Haha on the Joe Charboneau rookie cards. I had too many as well. I’m glad I had a few Rickey, Ripken and Gwynn rookie cards before I loaded up on those. My Clemens cards are seemingly forever in purgatory. Maybe he will land in the Hall of Shame next to a plaque dedicated to Nick Lodolo’s blister.

Stumanji!
Stumanji!
Reply to  Dave D
1 month ago

Are baseball cards worth money now? I haven’t bought a Beckett guide in 30 years. I need to check on my Chris Sabo Donruss Rated Rookie card.

ashtray
ashtray
1 month ago

Trying to pick up one pitcher to stream this week. Who do you like out of this group:

E. Hancock 8/28 @TOR (Streamonator t-value for my league settings -6.72)
C. Scott 8/28 vHOU (2.24)
Liberatore 8/25 vBAL (3.70)
Mahle 8/30 vCOL (8.42)
Baz 8/29 @ATH (0.23)

Dirt McGirt
Dirt McGirt
1 month ago

Would you start Clay Holmes @ARZ 16 team H2H K/9, QS.

Milton
Milton
1 month ago

How about a career high in pitches for Mr.Rassmussen. He is a delight.

timwheelerfan
timwheelerfan
1 month ago

Richard Hidalgo came to mind for big drop off.

TarmanGotHim
TarmanGotHim
1 month ago

Chase Burns can go F himself.
Derek Shelton can too (Gomez)

What the f is going on in baseball this season lol.

I’m in the final four (playoffs started in the league I own Burns) I said he’ll probably get torched by AA Giants. What a goon. And in another league all Gomez did was annihilate my ERA and WHIP.

Keep up the great work Grey!!