As we continue our 2020 fantasy baseball rankings, we head into the homestretch of ranking hitters. For those confused, homestretch isn’t when you shoot up in bed late at night, remembering there’s a bag of Doritos under your nightstand and go reaching for them. That is the opening to my short film, Crouching Tiger, Hidden Dorito. The main character has just been “Frito-laid off” and is described as Pringley and Ruffled. Last year, this post had Franmil ReyesKyle Schwarber, and Lewis Brinson. Well, they’re not all gems. My point (PLEASE!) there is some value to still be found in the outfielders, it’s just a matter of finding it, like in the landmark film, Crouching Tiger, Hidden Dorito. Here’s Steamer’s 2020 Fantasy Baseball Projections for Hitters and 2020 Fantasy Baseball Projections for Pitchers. As with the other rankings, my projections are included and where I see tiers starting and stopping.  Anyway, here’s the top 80 outfielders for 2020 fantasy baseball:

ALL PROJECTIONS ARE BASED ON 60 GAMES PLAYED, DUE TO COVID-19. BE SAFE OUT THERE!

61. Alex Verdugo – This tier started in the top 60 outfielders for 2020 fantasy baseball. This tier ends at Adam Eaton. I called this tier, “O.J.’s killing it.” As for Verdugo, I’m excited about drafting Verdugo. Of course, like the rest of this tier, I’m excited to a point, and am not exactly reaching for him in the top 20 overall. If I squint hard enough, I can see Verdugo being much better than outfielders 100 spots around of him in ADP. If previous seasons are any indication (and they likely are), Verdugo does hit too many ground balls and nowhere near a decent amount of fly balls. The good news (that is barely good, which is why he is still ranked this low), his 8.8 launch angle last year was up from 3.4 the year before, which obviously led to less ground balls. The bad news, 8.8 launch angle is still kinda goofy flat. The moderately okay news, his ADP is cheap enough to take a flyer. The neither-here-nor-there news, skeet shooting seems like fun. The wow-I-really-tried-to-like-Verdugo-much-more-than-this news, see the image in the below tweet. I obviously could only build up this much enthusiasm, but I still like him at his price and go over him in the video at the top of the page. UPDATE: Traded to the Red Sox. Did I just come back from REI? Because someone’s built a tent in my pants! Verdugo’s launch angle is still an issue, as mentioned in the above blurb, but in Fenway he can shoot line drives into the right field stands with a flick of the wrist. Perhaps I was already predisposed to liking Verdugo, but I almost love him now. I’m so close to moving him into my top 40 outfielders, and I’m all-in for Verdugo now, and I’ve adjusted his projections. UPDATE II: No wonder I keep searching him (see tweet below), his value keeps changing bi-weekly. He had a back injury last year, and now is claiming to have a stress fracture. The Red Sox are saying it’s not a long-term concern. He hasn’t played since August 4th and it’s not long-term? You say so! UPDATE III: Even with the delayed season start, I don’t trust him to be right, because his back was a mess since last August. Hopefully this is the last update for Verdugo. 2020 Projections: 29/6/21/.291/2 in 168 ABs

62. Jo Adell –  Already gave you my Jo Adell fantasy. It was written without the help of my waitstaff. 2020 Projections: 17/5/19/.257/3 in 143 ABs

63. Garrett Hampson – Went over him in the top 20 2nd basemen for 2020 fantasy baseball.

64. Jurickson Profar – Went over him in the top 20 2nd basemen for 2020 fantasy baseball.

65. Brian Anderson – Went over him in my top 20 3rd basemen for 2020 fantasy baseball.

66. Adam Eaton – There’s two Eatons. One injured who does nothing, and one who goes 15/15/.280. It’s not up to you which one it is, or him, it’s up to the universe (or Yelp) which Eaton we’re getting. 2020 Projections: 33/5/20/.282/5 in 190 ABs

67. Lorenzo Cain – This is a new tier. This tier goes from here until Canha. I call this tier, “Craps and old.” If you’re really liking something, you put that shizz in caps and bold. Well, this tier is craps and old. If Yelich can’t return from his knee injury, or something else happens to him, the Brewers are a blink away from being one of the worst offenses — Cain, Braun, Urias, Arcia, Avisail, Smoak, Gyorko, and whatever they have at 3rd base are inches from being <craps and old>awful</craps and old>. Cain is top five for something in the majors — top 5 for caught stealings. His sprint speed in one year went from the 88th best in MLB to the 185th. Even his home run trot slowed — going from 63rd in MLB to 204th in MLB. Pujols better hurry up and slow down or he’s going to be passed. 2020 Projections: 26/4/20/.258/5 in 202 ABs

68. Kevin Pillar – As of this writing, Pillar is still a free agent, and he’s either going to sign with some team and ruin the playing time for someone I like or he’s going to sign in Asia. That’s my ‘two wildly different scenarios’ prediction.  UPDATE: Signed by the Red Sox. The Red Sox could be moving on from Jackie Bradley Jr., but just bench him indefinitely? That seems unlikely. I’m sure the Sawx would like to trade JBJ for a middle reliever. Hey, I know, trade him for Brusdar Graterol! Only the fifth time in the last week he’d be on the team bus. Red Sox might consider doing a Sixth Sense remake with Bruce Willis having dinner with Brusdar Graterol. I’d say spoiler alert, but where have you been for the last 30 years? So, Pillar is a solid bat in Fenway if he gets 550 ABs. Incredibly, Pillar has seemed like a platoon guy for the last five years and always gets his ABs, so might be a solid fifth outfielder. 2020 Projections: 23/7/24/.264/4 in 180 ABs

69. Justin Upton – His good seasons appear closer in the rearview than they actually are. Steamer has him down for 30/5 in roughly 145 games. That’s thinking you’re getting a ‘B.J. Upton from Kate Upton’ optimistic. Five steals feels silly high at this point in his career, coming off a knee procedure. Turning 33 years old in 2020’s season, and that’s the point when I really start to pump the brakes. Also, with no actual data except anecdotal, some guys age into more disciplined hitters who just slow down and lose their BABIP (Miggy, McCutchen). Other guys, like Upton, just start swinging at everything and lose their BABIP (Chris & Khris Davis). 2020 Projections: 25/9/29/.223/1 in 182 ABs

70. Mark Canha – Went over him in the top 20 1st basemen for 2020 fantasy baseball.

71. Seth Brown – This is a new tier. This tier goes from here until the top 100 outfielders for 2020 fantasy baseball. I call this tier, “345, 344, 343…” The tier’s name comes from you counting the loss of hairs on your balding dome if you’re relying on these guys for too much.  There’s a chance though that you never get to 342 and the ellipsis is misleading. All of these guys are late round flyers in deeper mixed leagues. They all have some upside and downside, so they might be more risk than you want in the deeper leagues. For those leagues, the tiers after this will be a little safer, if boring. As for Brown, already gave you my Seth Brown fantasy. I wrote it while saying, “Hello Sharks,” in the mirror. 2020 Projections: 19/8/21/.277/2 in 149 ABs

72. Derek Fisher – I should’ve wrote a Derek Fisher sleeper post, which is what I say right before I see he might hit .195. But, damnit, that upside is sexy. Between him, Teoscar, the offspring of the 2003 All-Star Game and Lourdes, the Jays have one sexy eh-eff lineup. Though, in one week, they might hit 12 runs one game and get shutout five games in a row. 2020 Projections: 19/8/23/.225/4 in 151 ABs

73. Avisail Garcia – Here’s what I said when he signed with the Brewers, “Want a gut call based on nothing except lasagna from the night before? Avisail is one of those guys who peaks very late and last year (20/10/.282 in 125 games) was the start of a solid multi-year run. If this happens, I will point to this prediction repeatedly all year. If it fails to materialize, we will never talk about this again. Also, he has a bit of a playing time crunch because the Brewers pulled a 2019 2Many LeMans.” And that’s me quoting me mentioning 2Many LeMans, a reference from the top 20 1st basemen for 2020 fantasy baseball! 2020 Projections: 20/8/21/.284/1 in 151 ABs

74. Dylan Carlson – Already went over my Dylan Carlson fantasy. It was bursting at the seams with bad grammar. UPDATE: Moved him way up in my rankings as he starts to feel inevitable to break camp and push Bader to the bench, or worse, Bader becomes the guy who relays managing decisions from La Russa on the phone to Shildt. “What’s that? Yes, your hair is feathered fantastically! Shildt needs to know where to position his infielders. What? Yes, we promise not to harm any marsupials. God damn it, Tony!” That’s Bader running manager relay. While my projections need updating in the Carlson’s outlook post linked to above and some of the stuff about offseason acquisitions (since it’s from November), but as I say there, Carlson does appear to be better than Bader, and I’m leaning into that now. For more, click that link. 2020 Projections: 25/8/27/.244/4 in 149 ABs

75. Austin Hays – Already gave you my Austin Hays fantasy. It was a post that had such a nice time last night and hopes to see you again. 2020 Projections: 24/7/19/.244/4 in 188 ABs

76. Tyler O’Neill – I’m seeing Tyler O’Neill as a starter in the Cards’ outfield. Not in my mind’s eye like I’m a psychic who only opens when there’s a customer. I’m seeing it at depth charts. Thinking of it as an underlined, millennial 100 that absolutely is true feels foolish to think. The best thing going for O’Neill is Harrison Bader was given the starting job last year and looked like he was swinging with one of those wet noodles that falls off the grill and onto the ground at a Mongolian BBQ. Could see a scenario where we get to the end of March and I remove 100 ABs from O’Neill’s projections and he ends up more of a platoon guy. So, you could be counting, “345, 344, 343…” while you call your balding dome, Head O’Neill. Of course, there’s a reason why we’re even here excited for him. He’s got a 20-ish launch angle and might have a 20+% HR/FB, i.e., Michael Conforto 250 draft picks later. 2020 Projections: 23/9/26/.243/1 in 168 ABs

77. Trent Grisham – Already went over my Trent Grisham fantasy. It was written while saying, “I have so many fans,” to eye rolls at a ceiling fan store. 2020 Projections: 24/7/19/.254/5 in 168 ABs

78. Sam Hilliard – lready gave you my Sam Hilliard fantasy. It was originally written under ‘Thug Life’ on Tupac’s chest. 2020 Projections: 13/7/19/.242/2 in 116 ABs

79. Christin Stewart – Ya know the crazy thing about Christin Stewart? He’s always in the Twilight of his career! Give me that pun love! No? Okay. You’re tough. Like looking at the Tigers’ lineup. I’m guessing Stewart will get 450 ABs because the Tigers have literally no one else, and Stewart might be the only one who benefits from getting at-bats. Not exactly counting on greatness, but as a late-round flyer in deep leagues, he might be okay. Wow, rave review! 2020 Projections: 18/8/21/.238 in 167 ABs

80. Garrett Cooper – Went over him in the top 20 1st basemen for 2020 fantasy baseball.

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183414
183414
2 years ago

RedSox willing to eat 1/2 of the $61 mil. owed to Myers, for Betts. Padres offering 1 of Margot or Naylor (can give them both) and 1 of either Quantrill or Lucchesi (would kill his value). Rather have 1 year of Betts than 3 yrs. of Myers, but want Lucchesi to stay in San Diego.
I’d trade Myers, Profar, Naylor, and Quantrill for Senzel and Aquino, and pay 1/2 of Myers $61 mil. C’mon Padres gove me a Championship in my 41st year in San Diego.

Nightpandas
Nightpandas
2 years ago

Grey,

Would you deal Ohtani (p) and Ryu in a keeper for one of Snell, Flaherty or Nola?

K/9 qs league

Mookie
Mookie
2 years ago

AL-only keeper. Would you prefer 1 year of Devers at $18 or Ohtani for 4 years at 12, 12, 17, 22?

Additional context: I already have Yordan at UTIL and would need to play Ohtani at P until one of them qualifies for a position (it is 1 game qualification but not sure what expectations of them to play the field is). Also, my other keepers have me in pretty good shape so may be a go for it year.

Nardwuar
Nardwuar
2 years ago

$5 Gleyber or $11 Tatis in a keeper, salaries increase $5 per year

KrazyIvan
KrazyIvan
2 years ago

Grey,
How much value does Betts lose if he goes to SD?
HRs, Runs, RBIs all go down. Some will point to SBs possibly going up but his sprint speed is not that great.

I have in a H2H keeper league and I really want this deal to not go forward.

Big Magoo
Big Magoo
2 years ago

I see Hampson as the potential difference maker in this group. Had an insane September once the Rockies finally let him play regularly (16 R, 5 HR, 8 RBI, 9 SB, .318/.368/.534 in 95 PA). If Murphy and Desmond continue to see more limited playing time as matchup guys (which is a big if, but could/should happen), he could go .280/15/30.

Verdugo is interesting, though the Dodgers always seem to rotate lots of guys through the lineup. Avisail is another player who should thrive in Milwaukee.

Senzel, Aquino, + a mid-level prospect to the Indians for Lindor. The Indians get a nice influx of cost-controlled talent, and the Reds dramatically improve their chances of winning over the next two years. Let’s get ‘er done.

Big Magoo
Big Magoo
Reply to  Grey
2 years ago

I don’t think it’s that crowded in Milwaukee anymore. Thames is gone and Braun is slated to play mostly at 1B this year. Smoak looks to be a matchup/depth piece. Avisail should see plenty of PT in left field.

The Reds/Indians deal makes too much sense, so of course it won’t happen…

Coolwhip
Reply to  Big Magoo
2 years ago

Right there with you on the Reds/Indians scenario, it should happen, needs to happen, would be best for both if it happens… so obviously it won’t. I’d throw Galvis at them to fillin at SS and will the deal through more with the addition of another bullpen arm in return.

Big Magoo
Big Magoo
Reply to  Coolwhip
2 years ago

I don’t see the Indians settling for those pieces in lieu any of the pieces that I mentioned (unless Iglesias is the bullpen arm, which seems unlikely), but the needs and players of those teams seem to line up pretty well. Looks like the most logical fit unless the Dodgers improve their offer for Lindor.

Big Magoo
Big Magoo
Reply to  Grey
2 years ago

I suppose anything is possible, but I don’t see any of those guys as threats. The only two potential stumbling blocks I see are if Braun makes a stink about being moved out of the outfield or if Corey Ray goes nuts and gets promoted. The Brewers don’t seem to be too confident in Ray at the moment though.

Big Magoo
Big Magoo
Reply to  Grey
2 years ago

Haha, nice. I’m sure Corey Hart is rockin some shades and dominating a softball league somewhere!

Haven’t talked to Oaktown yet this offseason. I think he’s pretty busy managing his stores at the moment, but I’ll touch base with him soon. How’s Rudy doing?

E
E
Reply to  Grey
2 years ago

Brewers arent paying Garcia $10 million per year to be a part time player. 500+ AB’s are pretty much a lock barring injury

toolshed
toolshed
2 years ago

I just saw a tweet from a national sportswriter who said the pirates current payroll is now $43.6 million. I dont think it was a joke.

toolshed
toolshed
Reply to  Grey
2 years ago

I dont know, but when does the league step in and stop this? It ruins the game. They have no interest in competing.

toolshed
toolshed
Reply to  Grey
2 years ago

They should. Fine them. Make them pay a fee for tanking and being a disgrace to the league. Make the fee more than their payroll. Give them incentive to compete.

Malicious Phenoms
Malicious Phenoms
2 years ago

Just received this trade offer.

I trade
Willie C
Castellanos
Alex Reyes

FOR
Clevinger

Malicious Phenoms
Malicious Phenoms
Reply to  Grey
2 years ago

Is it close?

Malicious Phenoms
Malicious Phenoms
Reply to  Grey
2 years ago

Does Reyes ever live up to the potential? I really like the two bats..real tough decision.

Malicious Phenoms
Malicious Phenoms
Reply to  Malicious Phenoms
2 years ago

I made the trade, took Clevinger!

What The Power
What The Power
2 years ago

G

Dynasty OBP league

Trout
4
Tatis, Nola

Which side

Bterry
Bterry
2 years ago

Im set in keeping Trout tatis arenado and mondi in a keep 6 with no penalty forever league. Who do you keep with the last keeper spots between yordan, flaherty, villar, and olsen. I am leaning flaherty and yordan at the moment because of age, but i could be swayed any which a way.

Malicious Phenoms
Malicious Phenoms
2 years ago

Pirates suck at trading!

Coolwhip
Reply to  Malicious Phenoms
2 years ago

Pirates trade TO suck. ;-)

Malicious Phenoms
Malicious Phenoms
Reply to  Coolwhip
2 years ago

Hate to be a Pirate fan..geez.

Duda Want to Build a Snowman?
Duda Want to Build a Snowman?
2 years ago

OBP / OPS league . . . who’s your final keep?

$4 Soler
$11 Rhys
$85 Trout

12 team h2h categories ($260 budget)

Thanks!

Duda Want to Build a Snowman?
Duda Want to Build a Snowman?
Reply to  Duda Want to Build a Snowman?
2 years ago

Whoops forgot to add a $44 trea turner option

Duda Want to Build a Snowman?
Duda Want to Build a Snowman?
Reply to  Grey
2 years ago

Yeah, more or less. First rounders go between 40 and high 50s, excluding the trout bidding war that ended up at 77. Trea I could see for for 50 at most in auction…so, maybe a slight discount but not a ton.

Thanks!

Tbone
Tbone
2 years ago

Would you deal Lindor for Baez and one of Flaherty, Servino, Nola, or Berrios?

Sweatpants Nation
Sweatpants Nation
2 years ago

Maybe Reds send Senzel and Aquino to the Padres for prospects. Padres play Senzel at 2B and Aquino in RF and send Profar and Myers and their sorry asses to Boston or Korea or wherever.

183414
183414
Reply to  Grey
2 years ago

I would love that !

toolshed
toolshed
2 years ago

Pirates just traded marte to AZ for 2 undisclosed prospects. Undisclosed means they are reserves / bench pieces at best if they ever make it to the big leagues. You have to commend the pirates and their approach for cutting payroll. No other team goes out of there way more to unload payroll and get nothing back in return.

Will
Will
Reply to  toolshed
2 years ago

Both prospects are in Rookie ball, and one of them was the #33 overall draft pick in the 2019 draft (Brennan Malone). Peguero is the other one.

Coolwhip
Reply to  toolshed
2 years ago

LOL totally… they are the kings of selling for pennies on the dollar.

toolshed
toolshed
Reply to  Grey
2 years ago

Their penchant for trying to not win is amazing. It is surprising that they have fans and people actually still go to their games.

The Great Knoche
The Great Knoche
Reply to  Grey
2 years ago

Oh they tried, they just tried poorly. (See Meadows, Glasnow trade)

That trade really hurt their rebuild and now they have to blow it all up.

Coolwhip
2 years ago

Starling Marte to the Dbacks… this should be great!… if he’d hit some flyballs

Coolwhip
Reply to  Coolwhip
2 years ago

part 2… so Cast just through a gigantic wretch into the Reds outfield.. gotta figure someone(s) getting traded now right? They signed Cast to a 4-year deal. And Akiyama got a 3-year deal.

side note, maybe this helps Cast’s HRs a tad.

Coolwhip
Reply to  Grey
2 years ago

Somehow i feel the Reds outfield ends up with Cast, Akiyama, Aquino/Winker… are they really going to play Senzel in a corner? I think now a Senzel trade is on the horizon… i circle back to their in-state counterpart, something to tune of a Lindor for Senzel and Galvis package… maybe Winker is in there with another coming back, maybe even Aquino is in there and they get a bullpen guy coming back too… I sense a disturbance in the force.

Coolwhip
Reply to  Grey
2 years ago

Yeah, for sure, and I just don’t see him being +dWAR at shortshop, that would be foolish IMO. With metrics he could have been decent at 2B (hello Mous didn’t see you there) and so with them signing Moistasskiss, Senzel can kiss playing IF goodbye (unless nobody wants him for the asking price and he stays on the roster then somebody gets hurt opening up PT)… putting my GM hat on, a trade to get really strong SS using the outfield depth + Senzel just makes sense especially since the Reds suddenly decided they are all in. Plus is Luplow really the future for LF in CLevand? maybe, maybe not. Then there’s Herandez at 2B, he’s more or less a serviceable fill-in. You hear that? its the winds of change…

Coolwhip
Reply to  Grey
2 years ago

Yep, there’s a small chance at one scenario where they pursue aggressively and call up Chernoff and “make him an offer he can’t refuse”. i think i might push it along ;-).

Sweatpants Nation
Sweatpants Nation
Reply to  Coolwhip
2 years ago

Wow. That’s crazy. They were a dark horse. Thought he’d go to the Padres.

Duda Want to Build a Snowman?
Duda Want to Build a Snowman?
Reply to  Grey
2 years ago

Aquino just became a great reserve dart throw, if his price drops enough.

Smokers Delight
Smokers Delight
2 years ago

( 5×5 al only Roto auction)
If you had Gerrit Cole for the next 3 years at 40 but someone was offering you an expiring clevenger at 20 and Casey mize + in the minors who comes up at 10 and wont need to be signed for 2 years – is that worth considering?

Place Tevere
Place Tevere
2 years ago

I’m drinking your Matt Olsen kool aid. Would you trade Darvish and Lamet to get him in a categories dynasty league?

The Great Knoche
Reply to  Grey
2 years ago

Actually just traded Clevinger straight up for him in a league I have DeGrom, Snell, Paddack, and Flaherty.

Smitty
Reply to  The Great Knoche
2 years ago

nice get Knoche, staff still super stout

Sweatpants Nation
Sweatpants Nation
Reply to  Smitty
2 years ago

Yeah, great move

TC
TC
2 years ago

Now that Castellanos has signed with Reds, do you think he carries more value than Conforto this year and beyond? I know they are back to back in your rankings, but my last keeper choice comes down to one or the other. Thanks!

TC
TC
Reply to  TC
2 years ago

My apologies. Didn’t read through today’s comments and subsequent update before posting. Looks like you still have Conforto ahead.

chicitysox23
chicitysox23
2 years ago

You had him in the top 40 OF list, but who would you roll with as a last keeper spot. Franmil Reyes or James Paxton? Only other OF I will roll over is Verdugo as a minor league stash. The only other SP I will keep is Giolito.

chicitysox23
chicitysox23
Reply to  Grey
2 years ago

The Stadium it is!

Fungazi 2.0
Fungazi 2.0
2 years ago

Benintendi is reportedly in the best shape of his life. You movn him up?

Donkey Teeth
Admin
Reply to  Grey
2 years ago

Too low

Donkey Teeth
Admin
Reply to  Grey
2 years ago

Above Acuna is still too low

Fungazi 2.0
Fungazi 2.0
Reply to  Donkey Teeth
2 years ago

Those two seem about equal now

Sweatpants Nation
Sweatpants Nation
Reply to  Fungazi 2.0
2 years ago

First BSOL sighting!

Fungazi 2.0
Fungazi 2.0
Reply to  Sweatpants Nation
2 years ago

Not the first. Giancarlo was already seen bench pressing a hot girl. Like in a fitness sense

Sweatpants Nation
Sweatpants Nation
Reply to  Fungazi 2.0
2 years ago

They usually only weigh like a buck twenty tho so how good is that

Peacecoast
Peacecoast
2 years ago

Aquino lose PT with castellanos signing? thinking of keeping Darvish in 9th round instead (versus Aquino in 20).

also isn’t Story worth more than the 27 mil over 2 years that he got? I don’t get it why would he sign that?

awesome to see you and Rudy place in that guys ‘pert LABR analysis!

Donkey Teeth
Admin
Reply to  Peacecoast
2 years ago

Hopefully Winker is the odd man out. Can’t argue with Darvish in the 9th, both great values.

Story was in arbitration for the next two years still so I think he was only projected to make like $11 mill or something this year…

Peacecoast
Peacecoast
Reply to  Donkey Teeth
2 years ago

thx DT. choose 2. kingery, biggio, aquino all in 20th.

Donkey Teeth
Admin
Reply to  Peacecoast
2 years ago

Aquino and Biggio for me. No problem.

Peacecoast
Peacecoast
Reply to  Donkey Teeth
2 years ago

what do you think of mcmahon in the 26th?

Sweatpants Nation
Sweatpants Nation
2 years ago

Damn Reds. I had Aquino last year and planned on him this year. Now he’ll get crowded out for playing time, or worse optioned. Maybe they package him and Senzel in a deal.

Donkey Teeth
Admin
Reply to  Sweatpants Nation
2 years ago

Winker might be the odd man out…

Smitty
Reply to  Donkey Teeth
2 years ago

Winker bats left, Aquino bats right. Smell p**toon coming unfortch

Smitty
Reply to  Grey
2 years ago

S. Brown has a chance (if he is given a chance) for more! Like Seth quite a bit

Donkey Teeth
Admin
Reply to  Smitty
2 years ago

They already have four lefties in that lineup plus VanMeter in the wings. I smell a Winker trade coming.

I think this gives us a great buying window on Aquino.

Sweatpants Nation
Sweatpants Nation
Reply to  Grey
2 years ago

Yup. Unless something changes, got to.

Sweatpants Nation
Sweatpants Nation
Reply to  Grey
2 years ago

You said it!!

183414
183414
Reply to  Sweatpants Nation
2 years ago

Highly doubt that they package both, but I’d bet, assuming Senzel reports to spring training healthy (which I presume he will), he’s likely get a better return than Aquino. He can play a quality c.f. and 2nd.

Sweatpants Nation
Sweatpants Nation
Reply to  183414
2 years ago

Yeah, doubt it too unless some team needs a cheap 2B and OF and has pitching or prospects that match. More likely Aquino is sent down and they trade Senzel. Don’t think Winker gets much back. They also have other spare OF. Who knows

Sweatpants Nation
Sweatpants Nation
Reply to  Grey
2 years ago

Yup. And with the way he ended last year it gives them a reason.

Matty
Matty
2 years ago

(Reportedly) Castellanos to the Reds.

Matty
Matty
Reply to  Grey
2 years ago

Glad I traded Castellanos away (because he’s not great, not anything to do with the Reds signing), and glad my trade for Aquinos fell through.
I guess that takes the Nick Senzel I received as a throw-in on another trade from mostly worthless occasional bench bat/ upside play to nearly entirely worthless.

cmutimmah
cmutimmah
Reply to  Grey
2 years ago

I honestly have no idea why the Reds would sign him unless they are moving someone else. I have a feeling this is a “first domino” move, we shall see tho.

These offseasons when your team is rebuilding are brutal to get excited about real baseball and kind of make me sad in the pants about fantasy baseball also. Those 2024 Tigers are going to be swell though. You just wait and see.

183414
183414
Reply to  Matty
2 years ago

Senzel certainly isn’t worthless in 2020, assuming he returns at full health. I’ve had labrum surgery, and I’m 3x His age, and I can still do 100 push ups . Obviously the Reds can’t keep Winker, Aquino, and Senzel as a 3d o.f., and Aquino can’t play c.f. Reds can likely get their best return for Senzel. Probably on hold until we see Senzel in spring training in february.

183414
183414
Reply to  Grey
2 years ago

I hate lifting weights, and a strong core =a strong back.

The Great Knoche
2 years ago

Pricey but in NL only you have to keep Freeman. Shallow league but I think I’d still grab Smith with 2 catchers needed.

The Great Knoche
Reply to  The Great Knoche
2 years ago

That was for Cardfan.

CardFan
CardFan
2 years ago

10 Team, NL Only, 2 Catcher, 10 Pitcher, $270 league. I have a keeper question. We can keep 11.
Realmuto $15, T Edman $7, O Albies $12, Machado $28, Acuna $20, Kingery $2, Nola $15, Wheeler $11, C Smith $2 are for sure keepers. We have about 28% inflation on keepers. I can keep 2 of the folowing: F Freeman $43, R Stripling $2, M Melancon $3, T Bauer $18, W Smith LAD $13, A Miller $3. Thanks for your help!

Donkey Teeth
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Reply to  CardFan
2 years ago

Freeman and Bauer for me

Duda Want to Build a Snowman?
Duda Want to Build a Snowman?
2 years ago

Great nuggets hidden here. Hilliard feels like the guy I take with my last pick in early spring drafts, just to see if they give him the Blackmon/Story treatment and not the Hampson et al. I’m thinking the same for J Mateo (he’s out of options, so he has to play soemwhere).

Anyway, I’m trying to snag a $9 Bellinger or $12 JoRam keeper. Do any of these below trades work for you, or am I paying too much?

1. $9 Bellinger or any two of $50 Yelich, $19 JDM, $8 Villar

2. Bellinger or any two of $29 Acuna, JDM, Villar?

3. Bellinger for Acuna straight up

4. $12 JoRam for Yelich or Acuna straight up.

5. JoRam for JDM and Villar

Thanks again!

Donkey Teeth
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Reply to  Duda Want to Build a Snowman?
2 years ago

1. Yes, would do any combination…preferably JDM and Villar though.
2/3. Eh, try your best to hold Acuna…it’s fair though.
4. Nah. Well Yelich at $50 is a fair swap but I much prefer something that gets you the $9 Bellinger…
5. Yes, for Villar works

Duda Want to Build a Snowman?
Duda Want to Build a Snowman?
Reply to  Grey
2 years ago

Thanks! There’s definitely a scenario where Hilliard kills in spring, akin to Story, then gets a lot of run at 1B/OF before ultimately supplanting Murphy or Desmond. Add in an injury to either one of the vets + you’re good to go!

Tapia they seem to only like as a 4th OF for whatever reason.

Duda Want to Build a Snowman?
Duda Want to Build a Snowman?
Reply to  Grey
2 years ago

One can dream!

Dubs23
Dubs23
2 years ago

12 team, 2 catcher, 6×6 league. My $5 Will Smith (C) for his $2 Civale and a free keeper Dustin May? What do we think???

Donkey Teeth
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Reply to  Dubs23
2 years ago

I’d want Smith but it’s fair

Dong Show
Dong Show
2 years ago

Dynasty league question: I have been offered Judge Straight up for Alonso. Which side?

Bell then becomes my 1b and my OF then becomes Mookie, Judge, Bryant with a UTL spot filled by Brantley (or Donaldson, Soler, Villar)

I really don’t need to make this (This guy is a huge Mets fan and understandably loves Pete. I would normally say poor him but my loyalty is to the Pirates so, it’s rough) but I feel like my lineup becomes that much better. Is a Judge overhyped? Is it work the risk to take on Judges health and getting a little older in the process? I feel like this seems like a fair 1-1 with most people giving Judge the edge in dynasty.

Thanks for your thoughts Grey (and anyone else who might chime in)

Donkey Teeth
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Reply to  Dong Show
2 years ago

It’s a fair one for one. I’d want Judge, pretty sure Grey will say Alonso…

Dong Show
Dong Show
Reply to  Donkey Teeth
2 years ago

Thanks DT! I’m torn on this one myself. My loyalty is with Polar Bear Dong too, but the lineup around Judge is really the only reason I want to swing to the Judge side. I think Judge offers a little higher floor because of batting AVG and the occasional SB. I always joked I would only trade Pete for Judge because they are so similar in their profiles and the guy who owns Judge basically said he would never trade him. Boy was I taken back yesterday when I got this text lol.

I’ll have to do some extra homework to find out if Judge is really just someone we are living off of since his rookie year and the Yankee hype machine (plus Grey, yours and anyone else’s opinion)

The Great Knoche
Reply to  Dong Show
2 years ago

Close.I’d want Alonso. Better health track record so far. Plus I I like your lineup better with Betts, Soler, Bryant in and Pete beef at 1B, than with Bell.

bigbear
bigbear
Reply to  The Great Knoche
2 years ago

Agree with TGK. As a one for one trade, I like Judge better long term. But Pete is so much better than Bell at 1B. So keeping Alonso in this context is better.

Dong Show
Dong Show
Reply to  Grey
2 years ago

Thanks Grey! This is one of the harder trades I’ve had to process. I’m gonna need a few days on it. My gut says stick with PBDM (also because he’s one of my top 3 favorite players in the league). I am hoping the guy gets second thoughts and backs out to make my life easy lol

Dong Show
Dong Show
Reply to  Grey
2 years ago

That’s actually a great point. You really know how to sway an opinion, I’ll say that haha.

Dong Show
Dong Show
Reply to  Dong Show
2 years ago

I am enamored more so with the Yankee lineup. That is why this got considerable consideration on my end.

Dong Show
Dong Show
Reply to  Grey
2 years ago

Please refer to my post a few minutes ago where I complimented you on swaying an opinion.

Thank you

Hahah in all seriousness I guess I am hoping for that “perfect season” from him where he actually stays healthy and if given more opportunities because of health, can drive in like 130 RBI’s. But Pete has worked his ass off to get where did, both offensively and defensively and the new manger he knows well. I just love his work ethic and his overall personality.

Yea I think I am going to shut down this deal

Dong Show
Dong Show
Reply to  Grey
2 years ago

I don’t think I get burned on this deal if I did say yes. It’s more roster construction and depth for me. This trade would offset that balance I have built up. An unnecessary extra OF and now no back up 1b

Would be betting Health of Judge vs my Lineup