As we continue our 2020 fantasy baseball rankings, we head into the homestretch of ranking hitters. For those confused, homestretch isn’t when you shoot up in bed late at night, remembering there’s a bag of Doritos under your nightstand and go reaching for them. That is the opening to my short film, Crouching Tiger, Hidden Dorito. The main character has just been “Frito-laid off” and is described as Pringley and Ruffled. Last year, this post had Franmil ReyesKyle Schwarber, and Lewis Brinson. Well, they’re not all gems. My point (PLEASE!) there is some value to still be found in the outfielders, it’s just a matter of finding it, like in the landmark film, Crouching Tiger, Hidden Dorito. Here’s Steamer’s 2020 Fantasy Baseball Projections for Hitters and 2020 Fantasy Baseball Projections for Pitchers. As with the other rankings, my projections are included and where I see tiers starting and stopping.  Anyway, here’s the top 80 outfielders for 2020 fantasy baseball:

ALL PROJECTIONS ARE BASED ON 100 GAMES PLAYED, DUE TO COVID-19. BE SAFE OUT THERE!

61. Alex Verdugo – This tier started in the top 60 outfielders for 2020 fantasy baseball. This tier ends at Adam Eaton. I called this tier, “O.J.’s killing it.” As for Verdugo, I’m excited about drafting Verdugo. Of course, like the rest of this tier, I’m excited to a point, and am not exactly reaching for him in the top 20 overall. If I squint hard enough, I can see Verdugo being much better than outfielders 100 spots around of him in ADP. If previous seasons are any indication (and they likely are), Verdugo does hit too many ground balls and nowhere near a decent amount of fly balls. The good news (that is barely good, which is why he is still ranked this low), his 8.8 launch angle last year was up from 3.4 the year before, which obviously led to less ground balls. The bad news, 8.8 launch angle is still kinda goofy flat. The moderately okay news, his ADP is cheap enough to take a flyer. The neither-here-nor-there news, skeet shooting seems like fun. The wow-I-really-tried-to-like-Verdugo-much-more-than-this news, see the image in the below tweet. I obviously could only build up this much enthusiasm, but I still like him at his price and go over him in the video at the top of the page. UPDATE: Traded to the Red Sox. Did I just come back from REI? Because someone’s built a tent in my pants! Verdugo’s launch angle is still an issue, as mentioned in the above blurb, but in Fenway he can shoot line drives into the right field stands with a flick of the wrist. Perhaps I was already predisposed to liking Verdugo, but I almost love him now. I’m so close to moving him into my top 40 outfielders, and I’m all-in for Verdugo now, and I’ve adjusted his projections. UPDATE II: No wonder I keep searching him (see tweet below), his value keeps changing bi-weekly. He had a back injury last year, and now is claiming to have a stress fracture. The Red Sox are saying it’s not a long-term concern. He hasn’t played since August 4th and it’s not long-term? You say so! UPDATE III: Even with the delayed season start, I don’t trust him to be right, because his back was a mess since last August. Hopefully this is the last update for Verdugo. 2020 Projections: 49/10/35/.291/3 in 280 ABs

62. Jo Adell –  Already gave you my Jo Adell fantasy. It was written without the help of my waitstaff. 2020 Projections: 28/9/3/.257/4 in 239 ABs

63. Garrett Hampson – Went over him in the top 20 2nd basemen for 2020 fantasy baseball.

64. Jurickson Profar – Went over him in the top 20 2nd basemen for 2020 fantasy baseball.

65. Brian Anderson – Went over him in my top 20 3rd basemen for 2020 fantasy baseball.

66. Adam Eaton – There’s two Eatons. One injured who does nothing, and one who goes 15/15/.280. It’s not up to you which one it is, or him, it’s up to the universe (or Yelp) which Eaton we’re getting. 2020 Projections: 54/8/33/.282/8 in 316 ABs

67. Lorenzo Cain – This is a new tier. This tier goes from here until Canha. I call this tier, “Craps and old.” If you’re really liking something, you put that shizz in caps and bold. Well, this tier is craps and old. If Yelich can’t return from his knee injury, or something else happens to him, the Brewers are a blink away from being one of the worst offenses — Cain, Braun, Urias, Arcia, Avisail, Smoak, Gyorko, and whatever they have at 3rd base are inches from being <craps and old>awful</craps and old>. Cain is top five for something in the majors — top 5 for caught stealings. His sprint speed in one year went from the 88th best in MLB to the 185th. Even his home run trot slowed — going from 63rd in MLB to 204th in MLB. Pujols better hurry up and slow down or he’s going to be passed. 2020 Projections: 44/7/33/.258/8 in 336 ABs

68. Kevin Pillar – As of this writing, Pillar is still a free agent, and he’s either going to sign with some team and ruin the playing time for someone I like or he’s going to sign in Asia. That’s my ‘two wildly different scenarios’ prediction.  UPDATE: Signed by the Red Sox. The Red Sox could be moving on from Jackie Bradley Jr., but just bench him indefinitely? That seems unlikely. I’m sure the Sawx would like to trade JBJ for a middle reliever. Hey, I know, trade him for Brusdar Graterol! Only the fifth time in the last week he’d be on the team bus. Red Sox might consider doing a Sixth Sense remake with Bruce Willis having dinner with Brusdar Graterol. I’d say spoiler alert, but where have you been for the last 30 years? So, Pillar is a solid bat in Fenway if he gets 550 ABs. Incredibly, Pillar has seemed like a platoon guy for the last five years and always gets his ABs, so might be a solid fifth outfielder. 2020 Projections: 38/11/41/.264/7 in 301 ABs

69. Justin Upton – His good seasons appear closer in the rearview than they actually are. Steamer has him down for 30/5 in roughly 145 games. That’s thinking you’re getting a ‘B.J. Upton from Kate Upton’ optimistic. Five steals feels silly high at this point in his career, coming off a knee procedure. Turning 33 years old in 2020’s season, and that’s the point when I really start to pump the brakes. Also, with no actual data except anecdotal, some guys age into more disciplined hitters who just slow down and lose their BABIP (Miggy, McCutchen). Other guys, like Upton, just start swinging at everything and lose their BABIP (Chris & Khris Davis). 2020 Projections: 41/15/48/.223/1 in 303 ABs

70. Mark Canha – Went over him in the top 20 1st basemen for 2020 fantasy baseball.

71. Seth Brown – This is a new tier. This tier goes from here until the top 100 outfielders for 2020 fantasy baseball. I call this tier, “345, 344, 343…” The tier’s name comes from you counting the loss of hairs on your balding dome if you’re relying on these guys for too much.  There’s a chance though that you never get to 342 and the ellipsis is misleading. All of these guys are late round flyers in deeper mixed leagues. They all have some upside and downside, so they might be more risk than you want in the deeper leagues. For those leagues, the tiers after this will be a little safer, if boring. As for Brown, already gave you my Seth Brown fantasy. I wrote it while saying, “Hello Sharks,” in the mirror. 2020 Projections: 32/13/36/.277/3 in 249 ABs

72. Derek Fisher – I should’ve wrote a Derek Fisher sleeper post, which is what I say right before I see he might hit .195. But, damnit, that upside is sexy. Between him, Teoscar, the offspring of the 2003 All-Star Game and Lourdes, the Jays have one sexy eh-eff lineup. Though, in one week, they might hit 12 runs one game and get shutout five games in a row. 2020 Projections: 31/13/38/.225/7 in 252 ABs

73. Avisail Garcia – Here’s what I said when he signed with the Brewers, “Want a gut call based on nothing except lasagna from the night before? Avisail is one of those guys who peaks very late and last year (20/10/.282 in 125 games) was the start of a solid multi-year run. If this happens, I will point to this prediction repeatedly all year. If it fails to materialize, we will never talk about this again. Also, he has a bit of a playing time crunch because the Brewers pulled a 2019 2Many LeMans.” And that’s me quoting me mentioning 2Many LeMans, a reference from the top 20 1st basemen for 2020 fantasy baseball! 2020 Projections: 33/14/36/.284/2 in 251 ABs

74. Dylan Carlson – Already went over my Dylan Carlson fantasy. It was bursting at the seams with bad grammar. UPDATE: Moved him way up in my rankings as he starts to feel inevitable to break camp and push Bader to the bench, or worse, Bader becomes the guy who relays managing decisions from La Russa on the phone to Shildt. “What’s that? Yes, your hair is feathered fantastically! Shildt needs to know where to position his infielders. What? Yes, we promise not to harm any marsupials. God damn it, Tony!” That’s Bader running manager relay. While my projections need updating in the Carlson’s outlook post linked to above and some of the stuff about offseason acquisitions (since it’s from November), but as I say there, Carlson does appear to be better than Bader, and I’m leaning into that now. For more, click that link. 2020 Projections: 42/13/44/.244/7 in 249 ABs

75. Austin Hays – Already gave you my Austin Hays fantasy. It was a post that had such a nice time last night and hopes to see you again. 2020 Projections: 41/11/31/.244/7 in 313 ABs

76. Tyler O’Neill – I’m seeing Tyler O’Neill as a starter in the Cards’ outfield. Not in my mind’s eye like I’m a psychic who only opens when there’s a customer. I’m seeing it at depth charts. Thinking of it as an underlined, millennial 100 that absolutely is true feels foolish to think. The best thing going for O’Neill is Harrison Bader was given the starting job last year and looked like he was swinging with one of those wet noodles that falls off the grill and onto the ground at a Mongolian BBQ. Could see a scenario where we get to the end of March and I remove 100 ABs from O’Neill’s projections and he ends up more of a platoon guy. So, you could be counting, “345, 344, 343…” while you call your balding dome, Head O’Neill. Of course, there’s a reason why we’re even here excited for him. He’s got a 20-ish launch angle and might have a 20+% HR/FB, i.e., Michael Conforto 250 draft picks later. 2020 Projections: 39/15/43/.243/2 in 280 ABs

77. Trent Grisham – Already went over my Trent Grisham fantasy. It was written while saying, “I have so many fans,” to eye rolls at a ceiling fan store. 2020 Projections: 40/12/31/.254/8 in 280 ABs

78. Sam Hilliard – lready gave you my Sam Hilliard fantasy. It was originally written under ‘Thug Life’ on Tupac’s chest. 2020 Projections: 21/11/31/.242/4 in 193 ABs

79. Christin Stewart – Ya know the crazy thing about Christin Stewart? He’s always in the Twilight of his career! Give me that pun love! No? Okay. You’re tough. Like looking at the Tigers’ lineup. I’m guessing Stewart will get 450 ABs because the Tigers have literally no one else, and Stewart might be the only one who benefits from getting at-bats. Not exactly counting on greatness, but as a late-round flyer in deep leagues, he might be okay. Wow, rave review! 2020 Projections: 31/14/36/.238 in 279 ABs

80. Garrett Cooper – Went over him in the top 20 1st basemen for 2020 fantasy baseball.

 
  1. Dong Show says:
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    Dynasty league question: I have been offered Judge Straight up for Alonso. Which side?

    Bell then becomes my 1b and my OF then becomes Mookie, Judge, Bryant with a UTL spot filled by Brantley (or Donaldson, Soler, Villar)

    I really don’t need to make this (This guy is a huge Mets fan and understandably loves Pete. I would normally say poor him but my loyalty is to the Pirates so, it’s rough) but I feel like my lineup becomes that much better. Is a Judge overhyped? Is it work the risk to take on Judges health and getting a little older in the process? I feel like this seems like a fair 1-1 with most people giving Judge the edge in dynasty.

    Thanks for your thoughts Grey (and anyone else who might chime in)

    • Donkey Teeth

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      It’s a fair one for one. I’d want Judge, pretty sure Grey will say Alonso…

      • Dong Show says:
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        Thanks DT! I’m torn on this one myself. My loyalty is with Polar Bear Dong too, but the lineup around Judge is really the only reason I want to swing to the Judge side. I think Judge offers a little higher floor because of batting AVG and the occasional SB. I always joked I would only trade Pete for Judge because they are so similar in their profiles and the guy who owns Judge basically said he would never trade him. Boy was I taken back yesterday when I got this text lol.

        I’ll have to do some extra homework to find out if Judge is really just someone we are living off of since his rookie year and the Yankee hype machine (plus Grey, yours and anyone else’s opinion)

      • Grey

        Grey says:
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        Oh, Donkey Teeth, how you know thee

    • The Great Knoche says:
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      Close.I’d want Alonso. Better health track record so far. Plus I I like your lineup better with Betts, Soler, Bryant in and Pete beef at 1B, than with Bell.

      • bigbear says:
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        Agree with TGK. As a one for one trade, I like Judge better long term. But Pete is so much better than Bell at 1B. So keeping Alonso in this context is better.

    • Grey

      Grey says:
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      Polar Bear Dong Machine

      • Dong Show says:
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        Thanks Grey! This is one of the harder trades I’ve had to process. I’m gonna need a few days on it. My gut says stick with PBDM (also because he’s one of my top 3 favorite players in the league). I am hoping the guy gets second thoughts and backs out to make my life easy lol

        • Grey

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          Not sure how you can go from PBDM to a guy who hits 27 HRs last two years — If Judge was normal-sized person with 27 HRs last two seasons and a 50+ homer season three years back, this wouldn’t even be close

          • Dong Show says:
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            That’s actually a great point. You really know how to sway an opinion, I’ll say that haha.

            • Grey

              Grey says:
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              Haha

            • Dong Show says:
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              I am enamored more so with the Yankee lineup. That is why this got considerable consideration on my end.

              • Grey

                Grey says:
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                Yanks lineup did what for Judge the last two years?

                • Dong Show says:
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                  Please refer to my post a few minutes ago where I complimented you on swaying an opinion.

                  Thank you

                  Hahah in all seriousness I guess I am hoping for that “perfect season” from him where he actually stays healthy and if given more opportunities because of health, can drive in like 130 RBI’s. But Pete has worked his ass off to get where did, both offensively and defensively and the new manger he knows well. I just love his work ethic and his overall personality.

                  Yea I think I am going to shut down this deal

                  • Grey

                    Grey says:
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                    Judge *can* be better than Alonso, but he hasn’t been great 2 years running now

                    • Dong Show says:
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                      I don’t think I get burned on this deal if I did say yes. It’s more roster construction and depth for me. This trade would offset that balance I have built up. An unnecessary extra OF and now no back up 1b

                      Would be betting Health of Judge vs my Lineup

                    • Grey

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                      Yeah, it’s not a slam dunk… You saw what I’ve said about Alonso and Judge in the rankings

  2. Dubs23 says:
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    12 team, 2 catcher, 6×6 league. My $5 Will Smith (C) for his $2 Civale and a free keeper Dustin May? What do we think???

    • Donkey Teeth

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      I’d want Smith but it’s fair

    • Grey

      Grey says:
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      Agree with DT

  3. Duda Want to Build a Snowman? says:
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    Great nuggets hidden here. Hilliard feels like the guy I take with my last pick in early spring drafts, just to see if they give him the Blackmon/Story treatment and not the Hampson et al. I’m thinking the same for J Mateo (he’s out of options, so he has to play soemwhere).

    Anyway, I’m trying to snag a $9 Bellinger or $12 JoRam keeper. Do any of these below trades work for you, or am I paying too much?

    1. $9 Bellinger or any two of $50 Yelich, $19 JDM, $8 Villar

    2. Bellinger or any two of $29 Acuna, JDM, Villar?

    3. Bellinger for Acuna straight up

    4. $12 JoRam for Yelich or Acuna straight up.

    5. JoRam for JDM and Villar

    Thanks again!

    • Donkey Teeth

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      1. Yes, would do any combination…preferably JDM and Villar though.
      2/3. Eh, try your best to hold Acuna…it’s fair though.
      4. Nah. Well Yelich at $50 is a fair swap but I much prefer something that gets you the $9 Bellinger…
      5. Yes, for Villar works

    • Grey

      Grey says:
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      Yeah, watch Hilliard get more PT than Hampson

      1.-5 Agree with DT

      • Duda Want to Build a Snowman? says:
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        Thanks! There’s definitely a scenario where Hilliard kills in spring, akin to Story, then gets a lot of run at 1B/OF before ultimately supplanting Murphy or Desmond. Add in an injury to either one of the vets + you’re good to go!

        Tapia they seem to only like as a 4th OF for whatever reason.

        • Grey

          Grey says:
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          Haha, your ability to ignore the Rockies playing Ian Desmond and Daniel Murphy for 550 ABs every year is so refreshening!

          • Duda Want to Build a Snowman? says:
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            One can dream!

            • Grey

              Grey says:
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              Haha, so optimistic!

              • Grey

                Grey says:
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                It’s refreshening!

  4. CardFan says:
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    10 Team, NL Only, 2 Catcher, 10 Pitcher, $270 league. I have a keeper question. We can keep 11.
    Realmuto $15, T Edman $7, O Albies $12, Machado $28, Acuna $20, Kingery $2, Nola $15, Wheeler $11, C Smith $2 are for sure keepers. We have about 28% inflation on keepers. I can keep 2 of the folowing: F Freeman $43, R Stripling $2, M Melancon $3, T Bauer $18, W Smith LAD $13, A Miller $3. Thanks for your help!

    • Donkey Teeth

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      Freeman and Bauer for me

    • Grey

      Grey says:
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      Agree with DT

  5. The Great Knoche says:
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    Pricey but in NL only you have to keep Freeman. Shallow league but I think I’d still grab Smith with 2 catchers needed.

    • The Great Knoche says:
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      That was for Cardfan.

  6. Matty says:
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    (Reportedly) Castellanos to the Reds.

      • Matty says:
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        Glad I traded Castellanos away (because he’s not great, not anything to do with the Reds signing), and glad my trade for Aquinos fell through.
        I guess that takes the Nick Senzel I received as a throw-in on another trade from mostly worthless occasional bench bat/ upside play to nearly entirely worthless.

        • Grey

          Grey says:
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          Yeah, it’s not great for him, unless he’s traded

          • cmutimmah says:
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            I honestly have no idea why the Reds would sign him unless they are moving someone else. I have a feeling this is a “first domino” move, we shall see tho.

            These offseasons when your team is rebuilding are brutal to get excited about real baseball and kind of make me sad in the pants about fantasy baseball also. Those 2024 Tigers are going to be swell though. You just wait and see.

            • Grey

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              I hope so, but the Reds now need to move two OFs to secure Aquino ABs, which isn’t happening, so there’s risk attached to his name now… Maybe a little less risk if they move Winker

        • 183414 says:
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          Senzel certainly isn’t worthless in 2020, assuming he returns at full health. I’ve had labrum surgery, and I’m 3x His age, and I can still do 100 push ups . Obviously the Reds can’t keep Winker, Aquino, and Senzel as a 3d o.f., and Aquino can’t play c.f. Reds can likely get their best return for Senzel. Probably on hold until we see Senzel in spring training in february.

          • Grey

            Grey says:
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            100 push ups? Damn!

            • 183414 says:
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              I hate lifting weights, and a strong core =a strong back.

              • Grey

                Grey says:
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                Haha

  7. Sweatpants Nation says:
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    Damn Reds. I had Aquino last year and planned on him this year. Now he’ll get crowded out for playing time, or worse optioned. Maybe they package him and Senzel in a deal.

    • Donkey Teeth

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      Winker might be the odd man out…

      • Winker bats left, Aquino bats right. Smell p**toon coming unfortch

        • Grey

          Grey says:
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          Yeah, not worth a high pick anymore — decent flyer for backend of OF

          • S. Brown has a chance (if he is given a chance) for more! Like Seth quite a bit

            • Grey

              Grey says:
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              Yeah, he’s interesting, honestly haven’t heard a ton about his PT

        • Donkey Teeth

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          They already have four lefties in that lineup plus VanMeter in the wings. I smell a Winker trade coming.

          I think this gives us a great buying window on Aquino.

          • Grey

            Grey says:
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            At best prolly shogo/winker/aquino for two spots

    • Grey

      Grey says:
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      I moved Aquino in my rankings — way too much risk now that he doesn’t play

      • Sweatpants Nation says:
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        Yup. Unless something changes, got to.

        • Grey

          Grey says:
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          You gots to! Yeah, it sucks, but it is what it is, as no one says anymore

          • Sweatpants Nation says:
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            You said it!!

            • Grey

              Grey says:
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              Hehe

    • 183414 says:
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      Highly doubt that they package both, but I’d bet, assuming Senzel reports to spring training healthy (which I presume he will), he’s likely get a better return than Aquino. He can play a quality c.f. and 2nd.

      • Sweatpants Nation says:
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        Yeah, doubt it too unless some team needs a cheap 2B and OF and has pitching or prospects that match. More likely Aquino is sent down and they trade Senzel. Don’t think Winker gets much back. They also have other spare OF. Who knows

        • Grey

          Grey says:
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          Saw a Reds reporter say, Aquino has options — not good to see that

          • Sweatpants Nation says:
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            Yup. And with the way he ended last year it gives them a reason.

            • Grey

              Grey says:
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              Yup

  8. Peacecoast says:
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    Aquino lose PT with castellanos signing? thinking of keeping Darvish in 9th round instead (versus Aquino in 20).

    also isn’t Story worth more than the 27 mil over 2 years that he got? I don’t get it why would he sign that?

    awesome to see you and Rudy place in that guys ‘pert LABR analysis!

    • Donkey Teeth

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      Hopefully Winker is the odd man out. Can’t argue with Darvish in the 9th, both great values.

      Story was in arbitration for the next two years still so I think he was only projected to make like $11 mill or something this year…

      • Peacecoast says:
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        thx DT. choose 2. kingery, biggio, aquino all in 20th.

        • Donkey Teeth

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          Aquino and Biggio for me. No problem.

          • Peacecoast says:
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            what do you think of mcmahon in the 26th?

            • Grey

              Grey says:
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              Forget McMahon

        • Grey

          Grey says:
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          kingery, biggio

    • Grey

      Grey says:
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      I moved Aquino in my rankings — way too much risk now that he doesn’t play

      Keep Yu

      Story signed for as much as a middle reliever — who is his agent?

      Yeah, thanks! It’s good analysis, but there’s some problems I had with it

  9. Fungazi 2.0 says:
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    Benintendi is reportedly in the best shape of his life. You movn him up?

    • Grey

      Grey says:
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      Just moved him above Acuna

      • Donkey Teeth

        Donkey Teeth says:
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        Too low

        • Grey

          Grey says:
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          What?

          • Donkey Teeth

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            Above Acuna is still too low

            • Grey

              Grey says:
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              I just moved all my 2020 rankings to 2021 and now only one guy is ranked for 2020

        • Fungazi 2.0 says:
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          Those two seem about equal now

          • Sweatpants Nation says:
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            First BSOL sighting!

            • Grey

              Grey says:
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              Miguel Sano wakes every day in the BSOL

            • Fungazi 2.0 says:
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              Not the first. Giancarlo was already seen bench pressing a hot girl. Like in a fitness sense

              • Grey

                Grey says:
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                Haha

              • Sweatpants Nation says:
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                They usually only weigh like a buck twenty tho so how good is that

  10. chicitysox23 says:
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    You had him in the top 40 OF list, but who would you roll with as a last keeper spot. Franmil Reyes or James Paxton? Only other OF I will roll over is Verdugo as a minor league stash. The only other SP I will keep is Giolito.

    • Grey

      Grey says:
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      Franmil

      • chicitysox23 says:
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        The Stadium it is!

        • Grey

          Grey says:
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          Haha

  11. TC says:
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    Now that Castellanos has signed with Reds, do you think he carries more value than Conforto this year and beyond? I know they are back to back in your rankings, but my last keeper choice comes down to one or the other. Thanks!

    • TC says:
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      My apologies. Didn’t read through today’s comments and subsequent update before posting. Looks like you still have Conforto ahead.

  12. Place Tevere says:
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    I’m drinking your Matt Olsen kool aid. Would you trade Darvish and Lamet to get him in a categories dynasty league?

    • Grey

      Grey says:
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      Give me all dem Olson shares!

      Yes

      • The Great Knoche says:
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        Actually just traded Clevinger straight up for him in a league I have DeGrom, Snell, Paddack, and Flaherty.

        • Grey

          Grey says:
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          Nice!

        • nice get Knoche, staff still super stout

          • Sweatpants Nation says:
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            Yeah, great move

  13. Smokers Delight says:
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    ( 5×5 al only Roto auction)
    If you had Gerrit Cole for the next 3 years at 40 but someone was offering you an expiring clevenger at 20 and Casey mize + in the minors who comes up at 10 and wont need to be signed for 2 years – is that worth considering?

    • Grey

      Grey says:
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      Nah

  14. Coolwhip

    Coolwhip says:
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    Starling Marte to the Dbacks… this should be great!… if he’d hit some flyballs

    • Coolwhip

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      part 2… so Cast just through a gigantic wretch into the Reds outfield.. gotta figure someone(s) getting traded now right? They signed Cast to a 4-year deal. And Akiyama got a 3-year deal.

      side note, maybe this helps Cast’s HRs a tad.

      • Grey

        Grey says:
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        It screws Aquino, sadly… I’ve lowered him in the above

        • Coolwhip

          Coolwhip says:
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          Somehow i feel the Reds outfield ends up with Cast, Akiyama, Aquino/Winker… are they really going to play Senzel in a corner? I think now a Senzel trade is on the horizon… i circle back to their in-state counterpart, something to tune of a Lindor for Senzel and Galvis package… maybe Winker is in there with another coming back, maybe even Aquino is in there and they get a bullpen guy coming back too… I sense a disturbance in the force.

          • Grey

            Grey says:
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            Either a trade happens (mostly I think this) or Senzel splits time with Galvis at SS

            • Coolwhip

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              Yeah, for sure, and I just don’t see him being +dWAR at shortshop, that would be foolish IMO. With metrics he could have been decent at 2B (hello Mous didn’t see you there) and so with them signing Moistasskiss, Senzel can kiss playing IF goodbye (unless nobody wants him for the asking price and he stays on the roster then somebody gets hurt opening up PT)… putting my GM hat on, a trade to get really strong SS using the outfield depth + Senzel just makes sense especially since the Reds suddenly decided they are all in. Plus is Luplow really the future for LF in CLevand? maybe, maybe not. Then there’s Herandez at 2B, he’s more or less a serviceable fill-in. You hear that? its the winds of change…

              • Grey

                Grey says:
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                Agree with all of that…Unfortunately, no one in Cleveland has proven they have any interest in building for now or the future

                • Coolwhip

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                  Yep, there’s a small chance at one scenario where they pursue aggressively and call up Chernoff and “make him an offer he can’t refuse”. i think i might push it along ;-).

                  • Grey

                    Grey says:
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                    Haha

    • Sweatpants Nation says:
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      Wow. That’s crazy. They were a dark horse. Thought he’d go to the Padres.

    • Grey

      Grey says:
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      Ha, yeah… I adjusted my top 20 OFs, it prolly helps him a tad, but still kinda meh

      • Duda Want to Build a Snowman? says:
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        Aquino just became a great reserve dart throw, if his price drops enough.

  15. toolshed says:
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    Pirates just traded marte to AZ for 2 undisclosed prospects. Undisclosed means they are reserves / bench pieces at best if they ever make it to the big leagues. You have to commend the pirates and their approach for cutting payroll. No other team goes out of there way more to unload payroll and get nothing back in return.

    • Will says:
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      Both prospects are in Rookie ball, and one of them was the #33 overall draft pick in the 2019 draft (Brennan Malone). Peguero is the other one.

      • Grey

        Grey says:
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        Whee

    • Coolwhip

      Coolwhip says:
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      LOL totally… they are the kings of selling for pennies on the dollar.

      • Grey

        Grey says:
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        Haha, yup

      • toolshed says:
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        Their penchant for trying to not win is amazing. It is surprising that they have fans and people actually still go to their games.

        • Grey

          Grey says:
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          Haha, yup

          • The Great Knoche says:
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            Oh they tried, they just tried poorly. (See Meadows, Glasnow trade)

            That trade really hurt their rebuild and now they have to blow it all up.

  16. Sweatpants Nation says:
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    Maybe Reds send Senzel and Aquino to the Padres for prospects. Padres play Senzel at 2B and Aquino in RF and send Profar and Myers and their sorry asses to Boston or Korea or wherever.

    • Grey

      Grey says:
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      That would be sweet!

      • 183414 says:
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        I would love that !

        • Grey

          Grey says:
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          Yup!

  17. Tbone says:
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    Would you deal Lindor for Baez and one of Flaherty, Servino, Nola, or Berrios?

    • Grey

      Grey says:
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      Yup, Flaherty

  18. Duda Want to Build a Snowman? says:
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    OBP / OPS league . . . who’s your final keep?

    $4 Soler
    $11 Rhys
    $85 Trout

    12 team h2h categories ($260 budget)

    Thanks!

    • Duda Want to Build a Snowman? says:
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      Whoops forgot to add a $44 trea turner option

      • Grey

        Grey says:
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        Is that as much as it sounds in your league?

      • Grey

        Grey says:
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        Trea I mean

    • Grey

      Grey says:
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      Soler

      • Duda Want to Build a Snowman? says:
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        Yeah, more or less. First rounders go between 40 and high 50s, excluding the trout bidding war that ended up at 77. Trea I could see for for 50 at most in auction…so, maybe a slight discount but not a ton.

        Thanks!

        • Grey

          Grey says:
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          Meh, just buy Trea back if you want him, no?

  19. Malicious Phenoms says:
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    Pirates suck at trading!

    • Coolwhip

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      Pirates trade TO suck. ;-)

      • Malicious Phenoms says:
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        Hate to be a Pirate fan..geez.

  20. Bterry says:
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    Im set in keeping Trout tatis arenado and mondi in a keep 6 with no penalty forever league. Who do you keep with the last keeper spots between yordan, flaherty, villar, and olsen. I am leaning flaherty and yordan at the moment because of age, but i could be swayed any which a way.

    • Grey

      Grey says:
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      Flaherty

      • Grey

        Grey says:
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        Oh, and Olson

  21. What The Power says:
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    G

    Dynasty OBP league

    Trout
    4
    Tatis, Nola

    Which side

    • Grey

      Grey says:
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      Trout

  22. Malicious Phenoms says:
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    Just received this trade offer.

    I trade
    Willie C
    Castellanos
    Alex Reyes

    FOR
    Clevinger

    • Grey

      Grey says:
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      Clevinger side

      • Malicious Phenoms says:
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        Is it close?

        • Grey

          Grey says:
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          Yup

          • Malicious Phenoms says:
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            Does Reyes ever live up to the potential? I really like the two bats..real tough decision.

            • Malicious Phenoms says:
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              I made the trade, took Clevinger!

              • Grey

                Grey says:
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                Nice

  23. toolshed says:
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    I just saw a tweet from a national sportswriter who said the pirates current payroll is now $43.6 million. I dont think it was a joke.

    • Grey

      Grey says:
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      How much are they paying players they don’t have? I thought it was like $15 mill

      • toolshed says:
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        I dont know, but when does the league step in and stop this? It ruins the game. They have no interest in competing.

        • Grey

          Grey says:
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          League can get rid of that stupid doling out of Yankees money to Pittsburgh

          • toolshed says:
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            They should. Fine them. Make them pay a fee for tanking and being a disgrace to the league. Make the fee more than their payroll. Give them incentive to compete.

            • Grey

              Grey says:
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              Agreed… You can’t punish for bad moves, but you can punish for not spending $

  24. Big Magoo

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    I see Hampson as the potential difference maker in this group. Had an insane September once the Rockies finally let him play regularly (16 R, 5 HR, 8 RBI, 9 SB, .318/.368/.534 in 95 PA). If Murphy and Desmond continue to see more limited playing time as matchup guys (which is a big if, but could/should happen), he could go .280/15/30.

    Verdugo is interesting, though the Dodgers always seem to rotate lots of guys through the lineup. Avisail is another player who should thrive in Milwaukee.

    Senzel, Aquino, + a mid-level prospect to the Indians for Lindor. The Indians get a nice influx of cost-controlled talent, and the Reds dramatically improve their chances of winning over the next two years. Let’s get ‘er done.

    • Grey

      Grey says:
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      Avisail is in a bit crowded of a field — Verdugo and Hampson are interesting but they need ABs

      That would be sweet for Aquino, Senzel and Lindor!

      • Big Magoo

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        I don’t think it’s that crowded in Milwaukee anymore. Thames is gone and Braun is slated to play mostly at 1B this year. Smoak looks to be a matchup/depth piece. Avisail should see plenty of PT in left field.

        The Reds/Indians deal makes too much sense, so of course it won’t happen…

        • Coolwhip

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          Right there with you on the Reds/Indians scenario, it should happen, needs to happen, would be best for both if it happens… so obviously it won’t. I’d throw Galvis at them to fillin at SS and will the deal through more with the addition of another bullpen arm in return.

          • Big Magoo

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            I don’t see the Indians settling for those pieces in lieu any of the pieces that I mentioned (unless Iglesias is the bullpen arm, which seems unlikely), but the needs and players of those teams seem to line up pretty well. Looks like the most logical fit unless the Dodgers improve their offer for Lindor.

        • Grey

          Grey says:
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          Meh, if Smoak, Gyorko or Gamel get in lineup, Avisail’s out, but I don’t mind him

          • Big Magoo

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            I suppose anything is possible, but I don’t see any of those guys as threats. The only two potential stumbling blocks I see are if Braun makes a stink about being moved out of the outfield or if Corey Ray goes nuts and gets promoted. The Brewers don’t seem to be too confident in Ray at the moment though.

            • Grey

              Grey says:
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              Haha, for a moment, I thought you said Corey Hart! Throwback! How’s Oaktown? Have you talked to him?

              • Big Magoo

                Big Magoo says:
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                Haha, nice. I’m sure Corey Hart is rockin some shades and dominating a softball league somewhere!

                Haven’t talked to Oaktown yet this offseason. I think he’s pretty busy managing his stores at the moment, but I’ll touch base with him soon. How’s Rudy doing?

                • Grey

                  Grey says:
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                  Ah, cool… will be good to see him when he pops up… Rudy’s good, has the subscriptions up and running already…so ahead of schedule…

                  Yes on Corey — no doubt a nighttime league!

          • E says:
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            Brewers arent paying Garcia $10 million per year to be a part time player. 500+ AB’s are pretty much a lock barring injury

  25. KrazyIvan says:
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    Grey,
    How much value does Betts lose if he goes to SD?
    HRs, Runs, RBIs all go down. Some will point to SBs possibly going up but his sprint speed is not that great.

    I have in a H2H keeper league and I really want this deal to not go forward.

    • Grey

      Grey says:
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      Meh, will cross that bridge if we ever come to it

  26. Nardwuar says:
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    $5 Gleyber or $11 Tatis in a keeper, salaries increase $5 per year

    • Grey

      Grey says:
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      Tatis

  27. Mookie says:
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    AL-only keeper. Would you prefer 1 year of Devers at $18 or Ohtani for 4 years at 12, 12, 17, 22?

    Additional context: I already have Yordan at UTIL and would need to play Ohtani at P until one of them qualifies for a position (it is 1 game qualification but not sure what expectations of them to play the field is). Also, my other keepers have me in pretty good shape so may be a go for it year.

    • Grey

      Grey says:
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      Ohtani, Yordan will play the field relatively soon into season

  28. Nightpandas says:
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    Grey,

    Would you deal Ohtani (p) and Ryu in a keeper for one of Snell, Flaherty or Nola?

    K/9 qs league

    • Grey

      Grey says:
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      Flaherty

  29. 183414 says:
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    RedSox willing to eat 1/2 of the $61 mil. owed to Myers, for Betts. Padres offering 1 of Margot or Naylor (can give them both) and 1 of either Quantrill or Lucchesi (would kill his value). Rather have 1 year of Betts than 3 yrs. of Myers, but want Lucchesi to stay in San Diego.
    I’d trade Myers, Profar, Naylor, and Quantrill for Senzel and Aquino, and pay 1/2 of Myers $61 mil. C’mon Padres gove me a Championship in my 41st year in San Diego.

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