This year the Razzballies are going without a host. I, Grey Albright, Fantasy Master Lothario (don’t abbreviate it) am merely a long-form presenter. Remember, you can’t spell ghosting without host. You also can’t spell hostage, but no one is forcing you to stay for the award show. You’re going to want to, though, because without these awards, you’ll have no idea who was the best and worst hitters and pitchers this year, and you’ll be left giving out your own awards and no one cares if your “Low sodium tomato soup in a sourdough bowl” won your “Whitest Lunch Of All-Tme” award. Stop making up fake awards! For all of you winners and losers, I ask that you please keep your acceptance speeches down to a minimum. As a hero once said, “I’m going to thank everyone in private.” So, before I’m talking to no one but a room full of seat-fillers, here’s the year-end awards for the best and worst of fantasy baseball:

Fantasy AL Most Valuable Player – Before we announce our first winner, I just want to introduce the accountants from Kipnis, Zimmerman and Zimmermann. Stop giving them the evil eye, German Marquez! Your AL MVP this year, and for the first time in history — or at least as far back as I can remember (3 years) — is a pitcher. The incomparable, the inimitable, the nonpareil candy, Justin Verlander! The runner-up is his teammate, Gerrit Cole, another pitcher. In fact, to find an AL MVP hitter you have to scroll down to Rafael Devers, who barely gave $35 of fantasy value. After him, comes Alex Bregman and Mike Trout, which isn’t surprising. The fourth most valuable AL hitter? You guessed it, of course, Jonathan Villar. Haha…*pours gasoline on award envelopes*…you’re all gonna burn in hell!

Fantasy NL Most Valuable Player – The NL Fantasy MVP, like the AL one, doesn’t take into account team wins and “intangibles.”  Nope, here at Razzball HQ, we look at tangibles!  And those aren’t fungible!  This is commonsensible.  Uh-oh, I’m stick in an ‘ible loop, what can I do?  Listen to the Bible on Audible?  What’s this in my pocket?  A rookie card of Oddibe McDowell?  Okay, I’m done. The winner is Ronald Acuña Jr. Tildaddy was obviously the number one hitter in both leagues, because I just gave the last award to a freakin’ pitcher! Pay attention! At the very least, Tildaddy tells you to stop paying attention.

Fantasy AL Cy Young – This winner shouldn’t be shocking to you, or Kate Upton, it’s her brother during Flowers in the Attic cosplay…Justin Verlander! Our 1st double winner (out of three awards, so there’s a chance here for him to take home a lot of gold today, especially if he stole the most bases and saved the most games. He didn’t do that? Oh, well, then no chance for more gold. Not to mention, these are just gold-plated.)

Fantasy NL Cy Young – If the NL dominated for hitting and the AL dominated for pitching — which is exactly what we all thought. Lowercase yay for the world not making any sense! — the best NL pitcher was barely in the top 30 overall on the Player Rater. Guys and five girl readers, I know you’re not here for superlatives, just cold hard facts, but that’s effin’ crazy. No wonder my 4.15 ERA in my NL-Only leagues was middle of the pack. Congrats on your win, Stephen Strasburg, but you were the tallest midget in the room. No offense to Jose Altuve.  When I go over all pitchers in my recap, I’ll have more to say, but let me leave you with this:  James Paxton wasn’t good, but he was still 25th for starters, but not in the top 100 overall.

Fantasy AL Least Valuable Player – So many great contenders for this award. Khris Davis inhabited the body of his namelganger, Chris Davis; Carlos Correa has never met an expectation he couldn’t limbo under; Jose Ramirez had a 1st half to remember if you want to remember why you hate him, and if Andrew Benintendi wanted to cause us to lose our hair at a more rapid rate, then call me Mr. Clean. However, there was only one guy who truly was the cream of the crap — my one-time boo-bae, Giancarlo Stanton. Giancarlo isn’t here to accept the award because there’s two steps up into the auditorium and his knees couldn’t handle them.

Fantasy NL Least Valuable Player – Last year, Corey Seager won this award, and somehow I still ranked him 45th overall in the preseason this year. I deserve a Least Valuable ‘Pert award, but the guys from CBS are in possession, and possession is nine-tenths of the law. You should hear the CBS guys rail on Donkey Teeth in their preseason podcast (it starts around 43:00) because he drafted Acuña 5th overall, talking about how DT was a total idiot. Well, now that I write it out–No, I mean, c’mon. Anyway, Seager was bad again, but the highest ranked hitter in the NL for me with the worst return was…And he wasn’t that bad…though, was still bad enough…Manny Machado! No, that’s fine, Manny, take your time coming up to get the award.

Most Valuable Player Based On Draft Price – There was one guy who was either barely drafted prior to March 15th or drafted around 300th overall. One guy who singlehandedly won people leagues. One guy who only needed one home run call signifier — Albombso! Pete Alonso, may you be blessed from now until the day you stop hitting homers, then you can eff off.

Fantasy POS – Because Least Valuable Player doesn’t do one man justice.  One man who ruined us due to an illegal use of trust. A guy who is still swinging at a curve ball in the dirt four months after it was thrown.  The one and only (thankfully)…Travis Shaw! We will be shipping an x-ray of Pablo Sandoval’s stomach to Shaw, because a few years back Sandoval ate this award.

Fantasy Hitter You Most Likely Dropped and Picked Up A Dozen Times – “I’m over Joc Pederson, not even sure why I drafted him….Hmm, he seems to be hitting, maybe I should grab him…I’m grabbing Joc Pederson!  Wow, this guy is amazing!…Is this the breakout we all thought would happen? Holy crap, he’s so amazing! Hmm, he seems to have cooled off, goodbye, Joc Pederson…Hello, Pederson!…Goodbye, Joc!…Hello, Joc!…Now, I’m smelling my jock! Now I’m smelling my computer screen where it says Joc on my team and it seems like roses!…I’m in a waiver wire time loop!…Someone help me!”

Player You Had Forever and Most Likely Should’ve Dropped – There were worse guys than Daniel Murphy, but for the promise of Coors and what Murphy ended up doing, you were better off with anyone off of waivers in all but the deepest of leagues, and, in those leagues, you were more ‘stuck with’ Murphy vs. ‘enjoyed owning’ him. He had a year that was about the same as (turn away if you owned Murphy, because this is gonna hurt) Adam Frazier.

Player On The Top Of Your Waivers That You Just Couldn’t Bring Yourself to Pick Up – Max Kepler. He was as valuable as Nicholas Castellanos, Adalberto Mondesi and Sonny Gray. And you fought yourself to pick up anyone but Kepler for the better part of three months. Runner-up: Kevin Pillar. Or simply Maxin Killer. Hmm, maybe not that portmanteau.

Pitcher You Streamed So Much You Ended Up Owning Him – “Okay, I’m going to give a Whirlybird Streamer Streamstein to Ryan Yarbrough, but if he’s bad, I’m losing him so fast it’s gonna hurt him.”  And that’s the story of how you ended owning Ryan Yarbrough for two months. (Only for that trust to backfire in the worst of ways in September.)

Player You Were Waiting for the Other Shoe to Drop From, But Thankfully It Never Did – “I’m fine, fine, fine, fine — FINE! — with Lucas Giolito not quite throwing as good in the 1st half.  I know not to expect it.” Then he had a 12.5+ K/9 in the 2nd half and a barely 2 BB/9.

Player You Were Waiting for the Other Shoe to Drop From and It Ended Up Kicking You in the Groin – “Josh Bell carried my team into the All-Star Break and, against my wife’s wishes, I named our kid, Josh Bell. It doesn’t really go with our last name, Poshwell. It sounds like Dr. Seuss, but I don’t care.  He’s the greatest living player in our modern era!” Then his 2nd half happened.

Player You Were Waiting for the Other Shoe to Drop From and When It Did You Were Okay With It – Cody Bellinger. Fine, he wasn’t as good as his 1st half, but since he put up a full season’s worth of stats in the 1st half, he didn’t have to do much in the 2nd half, and he was able to do a bit more than that. If only a bit.

Player You Traded Away That You Most Regretted – Jose Ramirez. “Last July he was accused of taking steroids, and since then, he’s one of the worst hitters in baseball and this guy is offering me Edwin Diaz for him, which seems more than fair! I should’ve listened to that handsome ess oh bee, Grey Albright, and not drafted Jo-Ram at all!” Actually, I said don’t draft him, then said to trade for him in July.

Player You Traded For That You Most Regretted – Yasiel Puig.  “Greyus Albristo! Listen to this, I can get Yasiel Puig for Marcus Semien and Liam Hendricks.  I have to do this, right?”

Top SAGNOF – Liam Hendricks/Mallex Smith — Remember, the essence of SAGNOF is cheap saves and steals. No one came close to Hendricks for cheap saves, ranking 4th on the Player Rater for RPs above Roberto Osuna, and Mallex wasn’t even owned for parts of the year, so if you grabbed a May Mallex you stole SAGNOF down by the seashore.

Remember That Feeling You Had When You Walked In On Your Parents Having Sex, This Pitcher Gave You That Feeling Every Fifth Day – German Marquez.  May Marquez accidentally have a tub of mayonnaise dropped on him, then get caught in an elevator with Willians Astudillo.

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Ellis
Ellis
2 years ago

Thanks for all of your help/counsel this season, I WON MY LEAGUE

Enjoy the offseason!

Ellis
Ellis
Reply to  Ellis
2 years ago

and I started Marquez every week until he went down!

Todd
Todd
2 years ago

From Kirk Ferentz press conference YESTERDAY, a reference to Reggie Roby:

“But you look at the ’81 ball club, we were not prolific offensively by any stretch of the imagination, but we had a pretty salty defense, had the best punter in the world, not in college football but in the world at that time, and pretty solid kicking game.”

Giankkkkkarlo
Giankkkkkarlo
2 years ago

I want to thank grey for basically winning my fantasy league for me by influencing me to draft:
Acuña 4th overall
Rizzo 3rd rd
Belli 4th Rd
Villar 8th rd
Mondesi 10th Rd!!

Clevinger 7th round and my first pitcher
Bieber 12rd
Paddack 19rd
Trading Josh Bell for deGrom at the ASB muahahahaha

Thanks again man, love reading ur stuff every day. Can’t wait for next years content. Hope I get the 2nd pick in the draft to reunite with Tildaddy

Coolwhip
2 years ago

So Angels have now Fired Ausmus, White, and Paul. Manager, Pitching coach, and bench coach. Team ERA was 5.12… 24th worst ahead of only PIT, KCR, DET, COL, BAL. wahoo! thats good company. Halos offense was ranked 16th, RP 16th… SP… 30th!

Seems like cleaning house ahead of hiring a big name that teams usually let bring in their own people… hmmmmmm…

Angels are the dude that gets smashed at the bar, makes a lot of bad decisions with questionable chicks, and then the next day (or offseason)… they apologize for being drunk, delete their tweets, delete their pictures off instagram, and do their best to erase all the memories and leftovers from their bender. “Sorry, we were drunk when we hired them”

I’d like that: i want Arte and Eppler to have a presser and apologize for being drunk and stupid. then Arte turns to Eppler and says “oh, and you’re fired too.”

Coolwhip
Reply to  Grey
2 years ago

haha me too… me too. #metoo did do that right? no?… *slowly reverse walks out of room*

Bill Lumbergh
Bill Lumbergh
2 years ago

Grey: Trade Eugenio for an SP in a deep (27 team) 5×5 roto keeper? Offered SP are choice of Clevinger, Giolito and Paxton. My current keepers are Merrifield, Báez, Eugenio, Ohtani and Snell (we keep just 5 – no term limits). Thanks!

Bill Lumbergh
Bill Lumbergh
Reply to  Grey
2 years ago

Thanks Grey! Who would you prefer between Snell and Giolito?

Coolwhip
2 years ago

Justice is done!!!! The bill always comes due. That game didn’t go exactly as i thought (Scherzer 3 ER through 2 in) but eventually ended as it should. The broken bat bloop by RyZimm and Hader generally just unable to throw a strike… All is as it should be.

Coolwhip
Reply to  Grey
2 years ago

Yes! i thought that too… could have been up in August etc, is Gamel really that much better? Couldn’t you play Braun at 1B more paired with Thames in platoon (Braun hits LHP better, Thames vs 80% of RHB) and let Grisham play field those days. Why am I the voice of reason here?!?!

Coolwhip
Reply to  Grey
2 years ago

mhmm, i just realized they played Grandal 153 games!!! no wonder his second half took a dive until September. He played 16 of those at 1B… give him a break. So many bad roster decisions.

Coolwhip
Reply to  Grey
2 years ago

LOL thats realtalk there. forced to defend CounSELL.

SteveNZ
SteveNZ
2 years ago

Good heavens.

SteveNZ
SteveNZ
Reply to  Grey
2 years ago

Aw man, now I feel sorry for the Brewers!

Poor old Grisham. Though even without the error it would have been a tied game most likely. And Hader did kinda throw it down the middle (and hit a guy).

SteveNZ
SteveNZ
Reply to  Grey
2 years ago

And did some bad tweets three years ago. Screw that guy!

SteveNZ
SteveNZ
Reply to  Grey
2 years ago

You’d have to favour the Dodgers, but the top of that Nats lineup takes some getting through.

And maybe after all this time it’s Stras who has the great post-season that looked like a given way back in the day…

SteveNZ
SteveNZ
Reply to  Grey
2 years ago

One thing I like about the post-season is seeing guys who have absolutely no fantasy relevance, popping up and showing how valuable they are in real baseball. Like the middle reliever who never gets a Hold (though is still really solid) but then peels off seven scoreless appearances in the playoffs getting a bunch of key outs.

SteveNZ
SteveNZ
Reply to  SteveNZ
2 years ago

Or guys that are terrible during the regular season but then start mowing down everyone they look at. Like a Joe Kelly or someone like that.

SteveNZ
SteveNZ
2 years ago

Max Scherzer he may be, but I reckon most major league hitters would have done some damage to that one.

SteveNZ
SteveNZ
Reply to  Grey
2 years ago

A pity – he seems like a pretty good fella and it’d be nice if he got some playoff success to go with his regular-season domination of the last few years.

Not the real Hubie Brooks
Not the real Hubie Brooks
2 years ago

Just wanted to thank you and Rudy for all you do. Managed to lose my league 125.5 to 126 on the last day by not starting L*nce Lynn against the Yankees but it was still my best season in 15 years of doing this. Keep up the good work (and brush up on your maritime law)

Dave D
Dave D
2 years ago

After hearing about the Angels firing of the pitching coach I have one more award that just came in on a unanimous vote:

Least Valuable Rotation:

LA Angels of Anaheim, OC

They came in dead last by an almost incomprehensible margin in a an important: Quality starts.

They finished in 15th in AL with 22 as a TEAM!!!! This was 18 below the next least effective teams DET and TOR with 40 each. Six starters finished with more QS than the whole Angels team and three more tied them at 22.

Yet, the man who compiled this rotation keeps his job for another year.

Dave D
Dave D
Reply to  Grey
2 years ago

Right. To put it in perspective TB Rays had 53 QS, Houston 89. Cole and Verlander each had 26.

Coolwhip
Reply to  Dave D
2 years ago

So Bad, smh

Stream Weaver
Stream Weaver
2 years ago

Whats up my fellow patron of Mary J Blige at the Fantasy Springs Casino brother! I just want to say thank you for all your content and literally answering every question I’ve ever thrown at you. I won my roto league at 102 points and second place was at 88…BOOM! You were a big part of that. Now that it’s all over I’m ready to sit back and relax knowing there’s NO More Drama! Thanks again Grey

Stream Weaver
Stream Weaver
Reply to  Grey
2 years ago

Enjoy

Smitty
2 years ago

Ended up with 3 of your award winners after the dust settled. Got lucky going against your wisdom on taking SP’s too early and hit jackpot with Verly as my 2nd round pick. Hit on Petey Alonso too, taking him late. Lastly, was able to vulch L. Hendriks off of waivers, giving me the best bullpen (won saves along with T. Rogers & C. Mart) and winning our league. Thanks for what you do, c’mon ’20!

Mike
Mike
2 years ago

Why would you give the MVP nod to Verlander over Cole when their stats are almost equal and Cole had a lower ADP?

Dave D
Dave D
2 years ago

Incredible list, Grey. Lots of laughs. The only argument I would make would be NL Least Valuable Player. Machado, who I owned, underperformed I agree. But least valuable to ADP? He’s a lot lower but hands down for me has to be Lewis Brinson. Even though he was only around 300 ADP I owned him and he was less effective than your average AL pitcher hitting for himself in interleague play at NL parks. In the year of the juiced ball, he managed in 226 AB’s O HR and a .173 AVG. I guarantee even I could currently outperform him if placed on an MLB roster after a two week conditioning stint in A-ball.

Hands down, Brinson.

Dave D
Dave D
Reply to  Grey
2 years ago

Ok, good point. Maybe we can agree then that he was “worst overall position player”. He made Chris Davis look like 1967 Yaz.

Ironically enough the overall DC champion owned and played Brinson if you can believe that.

Dave D
Dave D
Reply to  Grey
2 years ago

Yeah. After I complete my write-up later this week regarding our DC slow draft, focusing on the drafts of the top 3 finishers, I want to do a second one looking at the drafts of the top three overall guys. It seems pretty fascinating to me. I’m reaching for an even higher level of geek-dom this post season.

JB
JB
2 years ago

Just listened to some of that CBS podcast – they sure didn’t make a compelling argument regarding Acuna or Vlad. I liked that the one tool was initially calling DT “Donkey Lips”, and if DT really took Vlad before Soto in the third round – oops!

bigbear
bigbear
2 years ago

Looking at Savant Highest % of 95+ MPH hits: Miguel Sano.

Another interesting name on the list is $54 VMS Franmil Reyes. If he joins the LAR and bumps up the 9.5 LA, he could make a leap in value too.

the great Wall
the great Wall
2 years ago

Thanks to Grey and Rudy for a great year.

Quick keeper league question. I have Benintendi as my last keeper right now, but not sure I have a lot of confidence in a rebound. Preseason he was #21 on the razzball player rater ($28) and throughout the season considered a buy, but never snapped out of it. Seemed to really struggle against RHP breaking stuff all year and K rate jumped. But he checks off some boxes for a bounceback- he’s young, talented, shown near elite production and plays on a great team. But his stats this year… ugh. Ended up 197 and $4.9 on the razzball player rater.

sportivetricks
sportivetricks
2 years ago

Dearest Grey (and Teeth),

I forgot to check in yesterday and let you know that I once again WON my league with not only your help and advice, but with the contagious enthusiasm that you guys give me for this game. I tell everyone how much I love playing fantasy baseball, and a big part of the experience for me is coming here, reading, learning, laughing, and generally enjoying some great over-the-internet friends.

THANK YOU

And LUUUURRRRRRRRRVEYA

Coolwhip
Reply to  sportivetricks
2 years ago

Yay! congrats!

sportivetricks
sportivetricks
Reply to  Coolwhip
2 years ago

And thank you, too, Mr. Whip!

Dave D
Dave D
Reply to  sportivetricks
2 years ago

Grey Teeth?

sportivetricks
sportivetricks
Reply to  Dave D
2 years ago

I was thanking Grey, primarily, for a great year, and also Donkey Teeth who sometimes chimes in with replies to my questions and comments.

Together, they are now Greyteeth.

Scott Kimmel
Scott Kimmel
2 years ago

Grey,

Quick question. I have plenty of time on who to protect. Right now I am preparing for my minor league draft. My question is are any of these 3 minor leaguers going to make the opening day rosters in 2020:

Royce Lewis
Luis Robert
Nick Mandrigal

Scott Kimmel
Scott Kimmel
Reply to  Grey
2 years ago

ok thanks. I thought they would be up this coming season

Scott Kimmel
Scott Kimmel
Reply to  Grey
2 years ago

sorry. my bad. I think they will all be called up during the year. Wasnt sure if they would leave camp with the team.

Willy Mickey and the Duke
Willy Mickey and the Duke
2 years ago

We had Villar , Strassburg, Olson,deGrom, X and Mookie in one league and Stanton, Dahl, Tatis, Sanchez , Mazzara and Voit in another
Guess which one we won and which one we came in 12/15
It was a fun year, but we will never own Stanton again. Forever banned

Squat Cobblers
Squat Cobblers
2 years ago

And the line of the year goes to:

“…because a few years back, Sandoval ate the award.”!!!
(That he ate an award surprises no one.)

Also, as Editor-in-Cheese, I regret to inform you that you’ve exceeded the limit for confusing worse/worst as well as than/then. The limit was 637…which coincidentally, was the same number of at-bats in which, Yolmer Sanchez failed to hit a home run!

Just razzin! Love u FMLDAI!!! Can’t wait for the recaps. Can’t wait for the January rankings! Thanks for all that you and the razzball crew do!

Squat Cobblers
Squat Cobblers
Reply to  Grey
2 years ago

No worries Lothario! I’m the idge! Keep doing what you do!

Duda Want to Build a Snowman?
Duda Want to Build a Snowman?
2 years ago

Seems like a guy who will for no reason at all be available in most of the 2nd round in 12-teamers. I’d love to have the turn in a 12 teamer and grab a nice [Story/Arenado/Lindor/Bregman/Soto] + Turner combo with picks 12 and 13. Then take an Alonso / Yordan / Springer type in round 3 (maybe wishful thinking).

Duda Want to Build a Snowman?
Duda Want to Build a Snowman?
Reply to  Grey
2 years ago

Yeah sorry for some reason this posted a bunch and out of the thread, not sure what happened there.

Duda Want to Build a Snowman?
Duda Want to Build a Snowman?
2 years ago

Seems like a guy who will for no reason at all be available in most of the 2nd round in 12-teamers. I’d love to have the turn in a 12 teamer and grab a nice [Story/Arenado/Lindor/Bregman/Soto] + Turner combo with picks 12 and 13. Then take an Alonso / Yordan / Springer type in round 3 (maybe wishful thinking).

Peter guigli
2 years ago

Grey follow-up there 182 days in a season. A player gets 1/4 of a pension credit for 43 days on an active roster. 1 pension credit per season if you make the 172 days. Ten pension credit get you 100,000 a year if you take at the earliest at the age of 45 or if you take it (like some of us) at the age of 62 it’s 210,000. A player who plays 1 game on a mlb active roster can receive 3,400 a month. So T. Walker pitching 1 inning was a reward like you said. Where I thought it was for a pension credit.You were right again. WE used ESPN for the last 20 years or so in a private league we are all so sick of them this year . What site would you recommend for a small private league that’s free. Thanks again

Peter guigli
Reply to  Grey
2 years ago

Week of the all-break pick up Gurriel (Houston) Jack Flaherty on waivers. Same week traded peter Alonso for goldy and traded Suarez for Bryant. The pain of those trade haunts me drafted peter in the 25th round. Thought I was getting a bargain.finish 2nd. Rotor league. Would have won if I didn’t make trades. Would have finished 2nd If I didn’t pick up Gurriel and jack. Win some lose some. Thank again for all your help.

Malicious Phenoms
Malicious Phenoms
Reply to  Peter guigli
2 years ago

Fantrax is the best.

NUX
NUX
Reply to  Peter guigli
2 years ago

I did 5 leagues this year with ESPN. They finally updated the app and fixed issues like a month before the season was over. Thanks…

I just joined a Fantrax Dynasty team and the experience thus far has been better than it was the previous two times I played there (2017 and 2018). My previous criticism was that they need to have an app for phones. I was annoyed about not having that enough to not want anything to do with them in 2019. I also wanted to have all my leagues on one platform, so I ended up with ESPN. But the website bookmarked to my iPhone home screen is working much better now than it was back in 2017/2018. Goodbye ESPN Fantasy! Its been a long time coming.

Donkey Teeth
Admin
2 years ago

Let’s talk Trea Turner.

2019: 96/19/56/.298/35 in only 122 games.

Prorates to 127/25/74/.298/46 over 162 games. Which is exactly how many games he played in 2018.

Where do you draft him next year in 5×5 roto?

Coolwhip
Reply to  Donkey Teeth
2 years ago

With Mondessi out a lot of next year, you gotta figure his value goes up yeah? towards the end of the first? maybe beginning of 2nd?

Donkey Teeth
Admin
Reply to  Coolwhip
2 years ago

Right, I don’t see him making it to the 2nd. The value of the steal…

Coolwhip
Reply to  Donkey Teeth
2 years ago

yeah so maybe mid first would be totally defensible then… he is realistically the only guy other than Acuna that can get you 100 Runs 25 HRs, 40 SBs… and the only one that would come with a .300 AVG unless Acuna hits another gear.

AJ
AJ
Reply to  Coolwhip
2 years ago

Acuna, another gear? He’s 21 and hit 290 for a majority of the year. 300 is probable.

Coolwhip
Reply to  Coolwhip
2 years ago

Acuna, Trout, Yelich, Belli, Bregman… and then some combo of Turner, Story, Mookie, Arenado, Freeman, Soto?, Rendon?, Devers?, Lindor?, JoRam?

Dominator
Dominator
Reply to  Coolwhip
2 years ago

What makes you think Mondesi is out a lot next year? His injury or surgery doesn’t raise any flags. Maybe he doesn’t make it to opening day but there’s no reason to assume he’ll stop running

Dominator
Dominator
Reply to  Grey
2 years ago

I’m not a doctor but it’s doubtful. The Royals should have shut him down in August after his initial injury but they did their best Mets imitation and let him play with the instructions ‘no diving’. He’s a cornerstone for KC so they’ll make sure he’s 100%. Maybe I’m too optimistic? Anyway, hopefully he’ll come at a nice discount during the 2020 draft. I’m all-in.

Coolwhip
Reply to  Dominator
2 years ago

Yeah wrong words just saw he’s out 6 months, am still concerned about the shoulder affecting his hitting ability. If it bothers him and he plays through it or is reinjured, he’s basically Mallex Smith / Jarrod Dyson… he needs to hit to be top value because he doesn’t walk. Turner does everything.

Donkey Teeth
Admin
Reply to  Dominator
2 years ago

I think he misses the first month of the season. “No baseball activities for 5-6 months” isn’t something where they just toss you back into MLB action immediately after. Mid May return seems likely to me.

Donkey Teeth
Admin
Reply to  Grey
2 years ago

It’s not like you can not swing a bat for 6 months and then play in a few rehab games and be good to go.

I hope you and Ralph are right because I love Mondesi but I’d be cautious drafting him at this stage in the game….if for some reason you had to draft in October haha.

Donkey Teeth
Admin
Reply to  Grey
2 years ago

Dislike fun? Who has the largest eggplant you’ve ever seen?

Paul Anderson
Paul Anderson
Reply to  Donkey Teeth
2 years ago

Seems like a guy who will for no reason at all be available in most of the 2nd round in 12-teamers. I’d love to have the turn in a 12 teamer and grab a nice [Story/Arenado/Lindor/Bregman/Soto] + Turner combo with picks 12 and 13. Then take an Alonso / Yordan / Springer type in round 3 (maybe wishful thinking).

Coolwhip
Reply to  Paul Anderson
2 years ago

yeah i think the turn next year will be a very strong position to draft from

Donkey Teeth
Admin
Reply to  Paul Anderson
2 years ago

That’d be quite the turn. I think the 12/13 picks were Rendon and Arenado in our mock podcast last night. All the others you mention were gone before the turn.

I do think one of those three will linger to pick 36.

The Great Knoche
The Great Knoche
Reply to  Donkey Teeth
2 years ago

My first round

Trout
Yelich
Acuna
Lindor
Betts
Turner
Bellinger
Arenado
Soto
Bregman
Story
Devers

Donkey Teeth
Admin
Reply to  The Great Knoche
2 years ago

Here’s mine but still digesting the season and draft value:

Acuna
Trout
Yelich
Story
Bellinger
Betts
Turner
Soto
Lindor
Bregman
Tatis
Arenado

Donkey Teeth
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Reply to  Grey
2 years ago

#7 overall? Don’t understand why you feel that’s such a reach.

Donkey Teeth
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Reply to  Grey
2 years ago

Thank youuuuuuu. You’re a reasonable and just Master Lothario.

The Great Knoche
The Great Knoche
Reply to  Grey
2 years ago

It was only two years ago he was going high as third. The full season just hasn’t come to fruition yet. His average also hasn’t been as high as expected, and it could come in higher. Speed power combo is still enticing with all the runs he scores. I don’t see why he wouldn’t be viewed right with Lindor or Betts without the injuries.

Only Drunkeyteeth is Story at 4

The Great Knoche
The Great Knoche
Reply to  Grey
2 years ago

You’ve got a couple months to decide. I’m still not sold on Belly repeating a 25% HR/FB ratio, I’d take Trea ahead of Story, Bregman , Arenado and Belly.

Ceiling .315/130/25/85/50

Maybe I’m Drunkey

Donkey Teeth
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Reply to  Grey
2 years ago

Arenado and Bregman are great but only 4 category players.

Donkey Teeth
Admin
Reply to  Donkey Teeth
2 years ago

Then I guess the question is more what you think is so unsafe about Trea comparatively?

The Great Knoche
The Great Knoche
Reply to  Donkey Teeth
2 years ago

Trea and Albombso for the win.

Smitty
Reply to  Donkey Teeth
2 years ago

Where in the world is Lindor in this?

The Great Knoche
The Great Knoche
Reply to  Grey
2 years ago

So you’re saying I’m gonna own him everywhere. Cool.

Smitty
Reply to  Donkey Teeth
2 years ago

missed 6 weeks and look at his numbers – helped me win it all – 1st rounder for me

Duda Want to Build a Snowman?
Duda Want to Build a Snowman?
2 years ago

Maddon rumored to be heading to LAA. If that happens, my bold prediction is that Ohtani ends the season with CBS position eligibility at all positions besides catcher, shortstop, and 2B. Honestly, OF + 1B seem like forgone conclusions.

Donkey Teeth
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Reply to  Duda Want to Build a Snowman?
2 years ago

Haha. I wouldn’t be that surprised if he gets 1B regardless of who’s manager…now that he can throw again and all.

Duda Want to Build a Snowman?
Duda Want to Build a Snowman?
Reply to  Donkey Teeth
2 years ago

True! And couldn’t you see Maddon hiding Ohtani at 3rd for a tough lefty, then bringing him back on the mound?

Coolwhip
Reply to  Duda Want to Build a Snowman?
2 years ago

HAHAHA absolutely… and in RF against a heavy pull RHB

Coolwhip
Reply to  Grey
2 years ago

Cole! Buy Cole! Invest in the fossil fuels futures market! Buy! Buy! Buy!

Smitty
Reply to  Grey
2 years ago

Angels ave never really surrounded Trout with a quality lineup. Clean house and get some DUDES! Pujols will make a fine bench coach – Go Dodgers!

CMUTIMMAH
CMUTIMMAH
Reply to  Grey
2 years ago

I like Maddon to the Padres. I have no dog in this fight, just think they have the best position open for what’s coming in the pipeline. LAA might be years from competing where as SD could be.

IF – Hosmer, Urias, Tatis, Machado
OF – Naylor, Margot, Renfroe
C – Hedges/Mejia

Coming up in 2021 – Campusano, Trammell, Owen Miller

Pitching is a strength of their farm system and this is still a perennial pitchers park:

Paddock, Lamet, Lucchesi, Garret Richards (health), Lauer
likely Mackenzie Gore comes up and takes Lauer’s spot, along with Michael Baez likely making some noise next year.

If I’m Maddon, that looks better than what LAA is bringing to the table, even with Trout.

hot corner
hot corner
Reply to  Grey
2 years ago

Maddon coached in the Angel organization for 31 years before getting the Rays manager job. Obviously, he has a lot of history there.

LennyDykstraIsJustMisunderstood
LennyDykstraIsJustMisunderstood
Reply to  Duda Want to Build a Snowman?
2 years ago

There are strong Philly Rumors as well even some Mets rumors but i can’t see him going to the mets unless they throw a pile of money at him

Bill
Bill
2 years ago

Check out this unbelievable draft – even with the dud of Stanton at pick 2, somehow I ended up with almost all the HR leaders on one team. Never had a draft with so many good picks before:

Team 9
Round Pick Player Position
1. (6) Christian Yelich OF
2. (19) Giancarlo Stanton OF
3. (30) Juan Soto OF
4. (43) Cody Bellinger 1B,OF
5. (54) Eugenio Suárez 3B
6. (67) Zack Wheeler SP
7. (78) Jonathan Villar 2B,SS
8. (91) Clayton Kershaw SP
9. (102) Eloy Jiménez OF
10. (115) Josh Hader RP
11. (126) German Márquez SP
12. (139) José Leclerc SP,RP
13. (150) Jurickson Profar 1B,2B,3B,SS,OF
14. (163) Cody Allen RP
15. (174) Amed Rosario SS
16. (187) Joey Lucchesi SP
17. (198) Brad Peacock SP,RP
18. (211) Matt Barnes RP
19. (222) Hunter Strickland RP
20. (235) Domingo Santana OF
21. (246) Pete Alonso 1B
22. (259) A.J. Minter RP
23. (270) Yan Gomes C

Harley Earl
Harley Earl
Reply to  Bill
2 years ago

I want some of whatever you’re drinking dude. That’s a hell of a draft.

NUX
NUX
Reply to  Bill
2 years ago

I pray that you don’t play in H2H and took 2nd place with this squad.