*balloons fall from the ceiling, sirens go off*  Oh my God, what did I win?  Little ol’ me was the winner of the “Only Person To Put Dustin Garneau In A Headline?!”  *more sirens, more balloons*  I’m also the winner of the first person ever to mention Dustin Garneau in a lede?!  *yet more balloons, yet more sirens*  Okay, what is it now?  I’m the first person to mention Dustin Garneau three times in one lede?  Great, can we kill the sirens?  My neighbors are gonna get annoyed.  What do I win anyway?  Dustin Garneau on my fantasy team?  That’s the worst prize ever!  So, I took on the monsters of the industry in an NL Only league that was hosted by Scott White at CBS and I came away with a team that is more imbalanced than Amanda Bynes.  This league is deep so hold onto ye old hat. (If you want a shallower league, play against me and hundreds of your closest buddies in the Razzball Commenter Leagues.) Anyway, here’s my 12-team NL-Only team and some thoughts:
C: Carlos Ruiz ($1)
C: Â Dustin Garneau ($1)
1B: Brandon Belt ($20)
2B: Daniel Murphy ($16)
3B: Hector Olivera ($11)
SS: Jhonny Peralta ($15)
MI: Chase Utley ($1)
CI: Chris Carter ($17)
OF: Dexter Fowler ($17)
OF: Gregory Polanco ($24)
OF: Matt Holliday ($14)
OF: Ender Inciarte ($16)
OF: Michael Conforto ($17)
UTIL: Â Rymer Liriano ($1)
P: Jacob deGrom ($26)
P: Max Scherzer ($32)
P: Carter Capps ($11)
P: Andrew Cashner ($10)
P: John Lamb ($3)
P: Brandon Finnegan ($3)
P: Drew Pomeranz ($2)
P: Jeremy Hellickson ($1)
P: Adam Conley ($1)
Bench: Â Bud Norris
Bench: Kirk Nieuwenhuis
Bench: Mike Foltynewicz
Bench: Jameson Taillon
Bench: Jose Pirela
Bench: Edward Mujica
Bench: Cristhian Adames
IT’S APPROPRIATE THAT YOU DRAFTED A CRISTHIAN BECAUSE HIS NAME SOUNDS LIKE CHRYSANTHEMUM ANDÂ THAT’S THE FLOWERS I’LL BE PUTTING ON THE GRAVE OF THISÂ FANTASY TEAM
I hear ya, this team is wonky as all get-out.  I can pinpoint the moment when everything went wrong.  Imagine Scherzer was dogsitting for me and I had to drive him home afterwards, and, as soon as he stepped out of my car, I saw a gummy bear on his butt, reached up and plucked it off.  Only TMZ caught it on video and edited it to make it look like I was saying, “Sweet, sweet can,” when I was really saying, “Sweet, sweet candy.”  In hindsight (literally), it appears I intentionally grabbed Scherzer, but I didn’t.  The way the pitching staff is listed is how I drafted them.  I grabbed deGrom for what I thought was a fair price and was like, “Okay, now I’ll grab a few starters in the $10-20 range and be done.”  Then one (!) player later, Scherzer is nominated and I had him listed for $35.  So, I figured I’d go to $32 and let someone else take him.  DOH!  That changed everything, and, since it came about ten picks into the entire draft, it changed every everything.  Ideally, you want to spend around $80 on pitching, I spent $89, but in a completely imbalanced way.  Can I win with this pitching?  Yes, but I can’t have anything happen to deGrom or Scherzer or I’m done.
CAN I ASK YOU A FO’REALLY QUESTION? Â OKAY, FO’REALLY, WHAT’S WITH YOUR OFFENSE?
I just went by our NL Only 12-team rankings.  Do I like all of these schmohawks?  I haven’t liked Utley in six seasons, okay?  I haven’t liked Holliday since he was on the Rockies, a’ight?  I’m not saying I’d draft this team in a 12-team mixed league.  Luckily, it’s not.  I nearly hit all of my projections needed to a T.  According to my projections, I’m a little light on power and average.  I’m surprisingly right on for runs, RBIs and a little high on speed.  Is it fun to rely on the 2007 All-Star Team of Utley and Holliday?  Nope.  But it’s the nature of the league.  Some other teams have an outfield that includes Dietrich, Duvall and Lagares.  I like those guys, but they’re not starters.  Another team has starters that include Middlebrooks, Marlon Byrd, Ethier, De Aza, Kike Hernandez and Freddy Galvis.  Another team’s starting outfield includes Jesse Winker, Markakis and Michael Taylor.  Again, I like some of those guys, but as my starting outfield?  My team isn’t Hotline Swing, but it’s also not as bad as you might think it is looking through mixed team-colored glasses.  Finally, I obviously don’t want Jhonny Peralta anymore — or dhonny’t wanlta, if you will — but I drafted this team two weeks ago, so thank God Jose Reyes is an abusive husband and Adames might see ABs.
OKAY, YOU OBVIOUSLY CAN JUSTIFY ANYTHING, SO LET’S HEAR IT ABOUT THAT BULLPEN!
Yeah, I don’t have one.  Saves are easily my weakest category.  It’s not really close.  For a league like this, you want one solid closer.  They don’t go cheap either.  Here’s some prices:  Papelbon $17, Familia $21, McGee $15, Melancon $21, Rondon $19, Grilli $11, etc.  I had already spent too much on Scherzer and deGrom and, brucely, I was reeling, so I gambled on a cheap-ish saves gamble…. Carter Capps.  Or as he’s better known, Carter TOMMY JOHN SURGERY.  Yeah, that gamble worked out perfect.  Almost as much as my last $30 investment in Powerball.  I’m a winner, I can feel it!  So, now the Last of the Mujicas may be my best bet for saves, because David Hernandez has triceps soreness.  That’s totally gonna work out for me!  *dons Trump for President t-shirt, walks into Mexico*
LEAVE ME WITH SOMETHING POSITIVE, OTHERWISE MY WHOLE DAY WILL BE BUMMED OUT. THIS IS AFTER ALL ABOUT ME.
Polanco…Belt…Conforto…Finnegan…Rymer…Foltysomethingwitz, I have upside, guys and five girl readers!  By the by, one of our girl readers is commissioning a Razzball commenter league.  Meet your future wife on Razzball and invite me to the wedding (if there’s going to be good food)!  This league will come down to who can avoid major injuries, because at the top of the waivers right now is a backup Padres catcher and some guy named Yhonathan Barrios.  Seriously, I’d vote for Trump if he outlawed all uncommon spellings of John.
Well… nice outfield!!
Carter Capps is unfortunate.
I have to say it looks no worse than my NL only team, but that team also kinda sucks…
Oh, by the way, 12-team league do you take Rizzo and Arenado for Au Shizz and Marte?
@Mikey U: Yes
@Mikey U: Rizzo side
@Mikey U: Thanks! Yes
@Grey:
Thanks all!
Grey, love the 25-100 list. Schoop’s just not being drafted, is he?
I’ve never known when’s too early to take him…
I took over as manager of cellar dweller in a 20 team keep 7 league that initially didn’t have 7 worthy keepers. I traded my Kipnis for DeShields and I traded my 5th pick and acquired both Pineda and Schoop and the 15th draft pick. I’m trying to find a way to swing a two for one upgrade, but my team isn’t great and the deadline is in 2 days. Who should I cut of these?
Schoop
Delino DeShields
Garrett Richards
Drew Smyly
Michael Pineda
@Sam: I’d drop Smyly.
@Sam: Smyly
Dynasty league looking for owners, email me here, if interested:
[email protected]
@Malicious Phenoms: what are the dues and basic info?
Grey!
Nice lede. I thought it’d be related to yesterday’s Giants-Reds game, a la……Giants cream the Reds by a TD and safety. Anyway….
a. Good team though after being in mixed league and super shallow modes a lot of what you do in an NL-only league gets lost. I can imagine that PRIMO real estate in a NL-only league costs MORE than it would in a mixed league for example 20$ for Belt seems steep but in reality it isn’t because the good resources are so scarce.
b. Oops, I invoked the scarcity paradigm. I hope Rudy’s not reading. Is there a scarcity paradigm in NL-only leagues? Like position scarcity in mixed leagues? I’m so confused.
c. But, but, but….You didn’t comment Schebler’s 2nd HR of the ST!!!!! The bus driver to Louisville still has his seat saved for him.
Cheers,
Ante
@Ante GALIC: Thanks! A. Yeah, it’s a bit of a mess, but doable… Every team in the league is a mess too, which helps B. Aw geez C. Ha
Grey,
Keeper/trade question.
Which side of the followinng trade:
G Polanco (1yr, $5) and Tomas (2yr, $4) or Richards (1yr $5) and Giles (2yrs $3)
I’d be getting Polanco side. Already have decent hitters. Good RP will be in draft. Wondering if Giles will really close out of the gate.
Thanks for your advice.
@Copperhead Road: I’d go with Polanco and Tomas
@Copperhead Road: Polanco side
I would have been making that Capps pick in every league had I been drafting before the news came out. All the more reason For SAGNOF!
After the M Franco + R. Iglesias (church!) trade, I’m now trying to pick my last keeper. Keep 7, and my first 6 keepers are Abreu ($25), Betts ($25), Blackmon ($20), Franco ($8), Strasburg ($16), and Iglesias ($4).
Who do you like as my last keeper from the below?
McCullers ($7)
Corbin ($8) (ranked slightly above Cullers, but WAY less upside in a keeper league)
Buxton ($4)
Keep Cullers now that he seems in line for about 170 IP + try my luck getting Bux at auction?
@Duda Want to Build a Snowman?: Hey Duda, I’d go Bux, especially if you can keep him for more than 1 year..
@Malicious Phenoms: Hey Phenom – interesting + thanks! Was leaning towards Cullers (but struggling between him and Bux). Yes, I can keep Bux indefinitely, subject to a +$3 / yr salary inflation (this year he’s $4). My only hesitation is that I wonder if people would really bid much more than $4 for him in the draft this year (different story in 2017), since he still hasn’t shown much of anything in the MLB yet.
@Duda Want to Build a Snowman?: I should also mention that Delino DeShields will be available to draft at auction. I figure if I miss out on Bux, I can go with Grey’s #1 sleeper and hopefully get similar (or better) production from D-squared, who still seems very under the radar.
@Duda Want to Build a Snowman?: I’d err on the side of offense. $4 is nothing to keep a guy that’s supposed to be a blue chipper.
@Duda Want to Build a Snowman?: Yeah, was unfortunate… McCullers, draft Delino
@Grey: Oops! Literally as I went to my team page to accept the McCullers trade offer I got yesterday, that owners flipped McCullers to someone else (in his defense, he get Kluber in return for only Cullers and Hamels – steal!).
Anyway, that means I’m still stuck with a $14 Hosmer instead of Cullers.
Between $14 Hos and $4 Bux, who wins out for you? (Hos would be my CI).
Hosmer
@Grey: thanks
No problem
Trying to figure out which 3 players to keep. 10 team 6×6 roto league (OBP,SLG,R,RBI,HR,SB) and (QS, IP, ERA, WHIP, K, SV)….it’s a 5 OF league w/ CI and MI
I don’t like the idea of keeping 2 pitchers (prefer keeping 3 bats), but I don’t know how I could pass up on Thor and Arrieta. I’ve heard from some I should keep Xander, but it’s OBP/SLG so his value goes down and Joc’s goes up. The other factor is not only do I get to keep them at last year’s spot for this season, but also next season, and possibly the season after, so a 13th round Joc in an OBP/SLG league would be elite. Options are below. What do you recommend?
Todd Frazier (8th round in 2016, 2017 – TBD for 2018)
Jake Arrieta (11th round in 2016, 2017 – TBD for 2018)
Joc Pederson (13th round in 2016, 2017 – TBD for 2018)
Xander Bogaerts (16th round in 2016, 2017 – TBD for 2018)
Noah Syndergaard (25th round in 2016, 2017 – TBD for 2018)
Thanks!
@Z: id go todd, jake, thor, personally. Id hate to keep 2 SP’s too but thats the best value and with only 3 keepers/team, at 10 teams, therell be a ton of offense in the draft
@Z: Fraizer, Arrieta, Noah
Have my first RCL draft EVER tonight! Feels like a first date when I imagine all the pointing and laughing.
@Dr. Kenneth Noisewater:
HaHa – good luck…
Speaking of RCL – does anyone know of a way to see the draft results of RCL leagues you’re not a member of?
@Rob: Once the season starts, you’ll be able to look at master standings… Now you can look at the filled leagues section of RCL signup and click links of leagues that have drafted…
@Dr. Kenneth Noisewater: Good luck! If you mess up, think of Vivian Maier taking a photo of you
Thanks!
But the only way I can picture (oh snap) Vivian is eating canned meat and hanging out with that dude with the greatest mustache/beard I’ve seen. Looked like a downtrodden kung-fu master whose daughter works at the Piercing Pagoda kiosk at the local mall.
Force feeding you Miguel Sano in the 3rd round, you crying, her then snapping a photo
Would you buy that photo?
Definitely, then I would cry on top of it and take a selfie while doing it then attempt to have an art gallery exhibit it… BTW, There’s Something Wrong with Aunt Diane was great, watched it last night
Yeah I watched that about a year ago. Forget how it ended, was she drunk or not?
And The Cheshire Murders, that one was good too.
Yeah, she was a total wino! Great, Cheshire Murders tonight… Depressing documentary week!
What is the 3-part documentary about the famous murders of those boys? I can’t remember but I’m going to get into those sometime shortly too.
And I’m sure you’ve seen Cocaine Cowboys, that one seems to be pretty famous. But it is fantastic.
Paradise Lost, they’re great movies… I’d watch all three, though 2nd one becomes a bit repetitive and unnecessary if you watch 3rd… Yeah, saw Caine Cowboys, was solid
Cool, thanks.
And the Netflix food show you mentioned last week….Cooked?
Yeah, Cooked was solid… Not depressing though, unfortunately
Pffft…I want angst and despair.
Or comedies like “Going Clear”.
I know, but at least it’s not uplifting…It’s more just dry and esoteric, which is fun
Light on and right on average?
Anyhoo. Went versus doctrine and took Posey at pick 31 in scout. Surprisingly don’t feel as bad as I thought I would.
@The great Knoche: Dur, I meant runs in second one… 31 is about his ADP… 1B is oddly shallow in the middle of the top 100
Which is to say I wouldn’t make that pick, but others do
Grey pick one please
Trout/Mookie/marte
Rizzo/Bryant/upton
@Someone pissed in my alphabet soup: Trout
@Someone pissed in my alphabet soup: Trout
@Someone pissed in my alphabet soup: What others said
Quick keeper question its roto scoring keep forever league keep 6 out of these players
G.cole
Thor
Hosmer
Pederson
Braun
Cespedes
Heyward
Cargo
C.gomez
Thanks in advance if it matter in your opinion at all I have 12 picks in the first 7 rounds.
@Eaton her Posey: Not Pederson, Braun, CarGo
I would get – C. González Col – OF ?J. Schoop Bal – 2B ?J. Winker Cin – OF ?FOR M. Sano Min – 3B ?in dynasty keeper league – what do you think of this deal man – Am I crazy
@mrbaseball: Sounds fine for this year
Mr. Grey,
Long time follower, who love you long time. No sucky sucky. Who would you keep out of the below 3 guys in a 5x 5 dynasty league (k/9 instead of SO’s and QS instead of W’s). This would be my 8th and final keeper. Auction draft with 260 million budget. Already keeping Correa $4, Goldy $7, Harper $21, Sano $4, Chris Davis $20, Todd Frazier $7, Dozier $9
The 8th is between:
Kimbrel $16
Matz $4
I was leaning towards Kimbrel, since this is a 12 person league where people tend to keep closers; however, Matz would be a good value at $4 and the salaries only increase by the lesser of 20%/$5 per year. Your advice would be appreciated, thanks homie.
@Jon Juan: Matz
@Malicious Phenoms: thanks, appreciate the advice
@Jon Juan: Thanks! Below 3 guys? I see 2… Matz
@Grey: Whoops, sorry about that, I meant to change that to a “two”…thanks for the help!
No problem
Need some help with my last keeper. 12 team H2H pts, we start 4OF and 8 Pitchers, -1 for batter Ks. I have the 8th pick in our snake draft. My keepers are Harper, Machado, Correa, Betts. Need to pick one more from Marte, JD Martinez, Archer. Leaning Martinez but expect most of the top SP to be kept. Lock up my OF or secure a #1SP?
@ReleasetheMcKracken: Martinez
Grey or anyone else. this year at our live drat I want to be able to use my laptop and mark players as taken and be able to monitor and use laptop during the draft. How are you able to scratch players off as they are taken?
@Ghost: Use the War Room tool from Razzball and asign players to the teams that draft them.
@Jensen: Or if you are trying to keep up just asign all the players drafted NOT by you to 1 team instead of sorting them so they are taken off the list. It takes some practice to keep up to a real draft while using the War room
First draft last night, God bless ESPN drafters.
c- Perez (sort of just happened)
1b- Abreu
2b- Odor
3b- Franco (missed out on top options and took pitching over Frazier)
ss- Russel (somone smohawk took Castro as his UTL so russel it was)
mi- Schoop
ci- Moustakas
of- Harper
of- Betts
of- Polonco
of- Pillar
of- DeShields
utl- Piscotty
sp- Corassco
sp- Archer
sp- Syndergard
sp- Leake
sp- Rodon
rp- Femilia
rp- Ramos
rp- Smith
rp- Jeffress
b- Glasnow
b- Berrios
b- Kennedy (wanted some locked in innings)
@Jensen: nice team
@Jensen: The pitching looks stronger than the hitting, which isn’t great, but don’t know how many teams
@Jensen:
How many teams and do you have the pick number for the players ?
@JoeG414: 12 team. 5×5.
Harper (5)
Abreu (20)
Marte (29)
Carrasco (44)
Archer (53)
Syndergaard (68) I wanted a SS with this pick but Seager, Lindor, and Xander went
Polanco (77)
Odor (92)
Franco (101)
Familia (116)
Ramos (125)
Pillar (140)
Perez (149)
Russell (173)
Leake (188)
Rodon (197)
Moustakas (212)
Smith (221)
Schoop ((236)
Jeffress (245)
Piscotty (260)
Glasnow (269)
Berrios (284)
Kennedy (293)
@Jensen:
Betts ? = Marte ?
@JoeG414: Yeah Typo on Marte. Should have been Betts. Brain fart. Betts (29)
@Jensen: 3 aces
Who would you prefer at CI in an OBP league: Pedro Alvarez, Chris Carter or Yasmany Tomas?
I apologize in advance if this has already been addressed – but i decided to try something new and signed up for my first weekly lineup league. Any change in draft strategy in terms of pitching priority between weekly and daily leagues? obviously I won’t be able to stream as much compared to daily.
Thanks!
Weekly doesn’t matter unless very deep, team number?
Pair of aces on the turn, Prince Albrecht? It’s like I don’t even know you any more.
@OaktownSteve:
I have a couple guesses which way you’re going next.
@OaktownSteve:
Also, I am back in the office today and really fighting the urge to holler out, “IS THERE A BEEKEEPER IN THE HOUSE?!”
If you work at a honey factory, it wouldn’t be that odd
Say them and we’ll see if you’re right
@Grey:
You don’t want me to wait until the guy at 10 picks?
Huh? Don’t follow
@OaktownSteve:
Lindor is one. I thought maybe Cargo. Now I’m guessing Hosmer.
Bingo, no question
I figured since there’s no waivers I’d go a little arm-y…
@Grey:
It’s not a bad idea. My draft is the strangest 1st 5 I’ve ever taken.
Yeah, me too… I’ve never doubled up SPs and to take two OFs first two is odd too
Grey great job with all the draft prep info once again!
Got a keeper question for ya. I’m in a 14 team SBFL league that is super competitive. We can keep 8 players from last years roster. The breakdown is 2 3-year keepers, 2 2-year keepers, and 4 1-year keepers. I also traded for an additional 1-year keeper spot, so I get 5 1-year keepers this year. I was wondering who you think deserves to be kept longer than the others based on the salary I can keep them for. Below are my options:
Name – Last Year Salary ((3-year keeper price break down: Year 1 (This year), Year 2, Year 3))
Greinke – $24 ($24, $24, $24)
Gordon – $20 ($20, $20, $20)
Frazier – $18 ($18, $18, $20)
JD Martinez – $17 ($17, $17, $20)
Bogaerts – $15 ($15, $15, $20
Lindor – $1 ($10, $15, $20)
Pujols – $18 ($18, $18, $20)
Belt – $10 ($10, $15, $20)
Stroman – $1 ($10, $15, $20)
Shelby Miller – $6 ($10, $15, $20)
Thanks for all you do Grey!
Gordon, Frazier, JD
@Grey: So in your opinion who should be the 2 3-year keepers and who should be the 2 2-year keepers? Thanks!
JD, Frazier 3 year; Gordon, Lindor 2 year
@Grey: Any reason in particular you prefer Lindor over Bogaerts?
Bit higher ceiling
Keep Kluber in the 4th round or Carlos Martinez in the 13th?
Martinez
@Grey- Entering my 7th season following you and want to thank you for all of the great work that you do on a consistent, day-in/day-out basis. My 10 year keeper league is resetting this season and have a question about my 1st round pick.
The league is 12-team roto, 6×6 (w/BBs and Holds), keep 8 players, keep forever.
I have the 7th pick. Assuming Trout/Harper/Correa/Machado are gone, approaching this from a keeper standpoint, how do you rank AND tier Goldy, Rizzo, Stanton, Bryant?
I could just extrapolate your annual rankings, taking into account age/BBs as a 6th category, but I don’t know how much you weight age and who you expect to produce for a longer period of time at a consistently peak/high level.
As always, in advance, thank you my friend.
You did rank them
@Grey: Thanks man… And where do Bogaerts and C Seager get bumped up to in a keeper league like this? Up to the G Polanco region?
Yeah Seager’s top 30, Bogaerts is a little after
good picks, albright.
Thanks! I wish I had one more pick and then could’ve passed the baton for like four rounds
@Grey:
My next picks might be pretty key for this draft.
@OaktownSteve: keep me.posted in the email chain. Would.love to hear the groups take on your options.
One hitter and one pitcher…
Damn I wanted Maikel to make it back
@Grey: Lapping us now. We aren’t done with Round 4 yet.
Yeah ours picked up steam… Mid-6th
@Grey:
That was a strong pick there. I was kind of counting on him being gone.
That was really the only guy I wanted in the next few rounds
@Grey: Is there a way for us to peep on your draft?
Does anyone know where I can get NFBC ADP info? Looking for NL ONLY as well as Mixed. Been hearing they are a great source for ADP, but can’t find it anywhere???
i would use the recent LABR AL/NL for values.
@Rudy Gamble:
Would I be able to find these LABR NL only values in a decent spreadsheet somewhere? After a couple googles searches, all I’m finding are articles on individual team’s drafts.
Or, better yet, is it possible to export your Values/Point Shares from the website? my computer skills/knowledge doesn’t exceed basic microsoft excel functions.
Thanks Rudy!
Hey Grey,
Can’t wait to get another season going. I have a keeper question for you. It’s 12 team h2h (OBP instead of AVG), 4 OF, 2 UTIL, and I need to keep 5 guys. Thanks!
Mookie Betts 20th round
Josh Donaldson 19th round
Lorenzo Cain 13th round
Maikel Franco 23rd round
Billy Hamilton 19th round
Joc Pederson 7th round
Addison Russell 23rd round
Stephen Piscotty 23rd round
Mookie Betts 20th round
Josh Donaldson 19th round
Lorenzo Cain 13th round
Maikel Franco 23rd round
Hamilton
@Grey: Thanks love the work!
Thanks!
Hey Grey,
Appreciate all the work and advice. I have two keepers left to choose, and I’m really torn. 8 teams league. Here are the options and would LOVE some advice.
Cain in the 19th
Bogaerts in the 18th
Buxton in the 19th
Giolito in the 19th
Blackmon in the 12th
Severino in the 19th
Odor in the 19th
FYI – Leaning Bog and Odor for IF and youth. Hurting to give up Cain, and Buxton Potential.
Thoughts?
Cain, Xander, though be nice to know your other keepers
Thanks for the quick reply. Sorry, should’ve said, Bryant in the 15th and Springer in the 16th.
What are these names?
I’m afraid this guy on the clock is at work and won’t make a pick all day.
His light is green though, right? Which I’d guess is he has the window open, just doesn’t know it’s his turn… Ping him!
@Grey:
No email address on his profile
I think he took a while yesterday… His work might not allow him to constantly check
@Grey: Make work kind of boring without stopping every 5 minutes to look at it wouldnt it?
Every 5 minutes? Wow, you’re disciplined… I look at it every minute, sometimes I’ll just stare at it for a full minute
@Grey:
I am clicking refresh faster than I used to bang the fire button on an Asteroids machine.
Speaking of which, hosting slow drafts much be such a page view generator
@Grey:
Build your own. Buy or build, the age old choice. Or have lunch and take a nap.
Build if those are The choices
@Grey: Yeah, but isn’t this “technically” work for you?
Ah true
Got a Keeper Question for you Grey. Each keeper is rounds 1,2,3 of the draft. Can keep them as long as I want. Who are your top 3 guys?
Abreu
Machado
Seager
McCutcheon
Bautista
Polanco
Arrieta
deGrom
I’m thinking Abreu, Machado, and McCutcheon.
Machado, Abreu, McCutchen, be nice to know something about the league
Strategy/valuation question… I’m looking at your draft and the NL LABR draft to get a sense of what players should go for in my auction this year.
However, I’m in a 10 team NL league. How would you expect the prices to change ina slightly smaller league? I’ve looked at the Razzball 10 team NL values, but I’m having a hard time figuring out how to use these 12 team drafts as a rough guide even though it feels like they should help.
Thoughts from anyone on how to adjust what I’m seeing in this drafts would be great! Would top guys lose value because replacements are slightly better and there is less $ to go around? Would average auction values go up because we’re battling over a better set of players? I’m lost…
If you click on the 12 team NL Only rankings, right next to them is 10 team NL-Only
@Grey:
I have looked at those and plan to use them. My hope was to get an estimate of what market value for each guy was using the two expert drafts, and find some good targets that way, but the 12 vs 10 has me confused.
You shouldn’t look at expert values for a 12 team league if you’re a 10 team… Our auction values are what people are paying
Do you still have a record of what other guys went for in that auction?
I’m curious about Heyward and Revere particularly. Trying to figure out how much my NL-only league overvalues steals.
I’d look at our rankings
Justin Upton left Wednesday’s Grapefruit League game against the Nationals for precautionary reasons.
Anthony Gose stepped on Upton’s left ankle on a near collision in left center field. Upton is likely headed for X-rays. This is the last thing the Tigers needed after losing Cameron Maybin to a broken wrist last week. Tyler Collins would slot in as the everyday left fielder if Upton faces a lengthy absence.
Related: Anthony Gose
Source: Jayson Stark on TwitterMar 9 – 2:41 PM
Meh, sounds fine
@Grey: I hope so, or Gose is crossed off my Christmas card list!
Haha
You got a guess who I’m taking?
I’m at lunch so can’t see right now, will be about half hour until I can look
@Grey:
May or may not have drafted by then. On deck circle is the woist. The woist I tells ya.
Yeah I hear that
Okay, back home looking at your options
Somewhere in the Freeman/Pujols/Lester/Keuchel/F-Her are… Gonna say Freeman/Keuchel
@Grey:
Half right. Unless the fella ahead takes the right half.
I deliberately didn’t list someone that I’m hoping gets back to me…I’m sneaky!
@Grey:
This guy is going to pick and then my picks will be done in 15 seconds and I’ll have to wait another day and a half
Yeah, sometimes I let my drafting wait a good ten minutes just so I can feel something
@Grey: hahaha, we are soooo addicts to this. i’ve done this SAME thing.
@OaktownSteve: top five on the board?
Ruh roh – Upton leaves for XRays after Gose steps on his ankle in an OF collision…
Sounded minor
@Grey: Phew.
Hopefully whew
@Duda Want to Build a Snowman?: this better not really really F me in about 6 leagues. i’ve traded for upton that many times (2 in last month) in last 2 years or so. funniest part about this is gose not 3 days ago is quoted saying some b.phillips level-of-stupid shit about defensive metrics being “made up” “not real” crap for some dude to make money. he was asked about those i suppose since he’s rated awful in all of them. apparently the metrics didn’t show exactly how bad he really is, he’ll be worth quite a bit more losses per year this year than he already was going to from his normal D if he decommissions upton by stepping on his ankle.
Man this Scout draft is pitching heavy. Everyone’s got two SP through 5 rounds. One guy even has 3. I know NFBC it was smart to draft at least a couple of good pitchers, but I figured that was due to 15 teams. Maybe it’s due to no waivers? I don’t care, I’m not zigging.
@Cram It: I’ve only got 1!
@The great Knoche: Ditto. You’re in the middle though, easier to stop the bleeding on position runs.
I think when there’s no streaming (weekly) and no waivers, SPs go up a little
@Cram It:
I’ve got zero through 5. However, I might be rewarded for waiting. Couple interesting names on the board for me at the 6/7 turn
@OaktownSteve: I’m not complaining. Still good stuff out there. Just gave me pause that I’m doing something wrong. I’m back on track!
@Cram It: It’s not zigging, its how you play these. 3 so far is a little nuts.
@J-FOH: Is it not zigging? When everyone is doing the same thing? *Looks up ‘zigging’…throws dictionary at wall*
@Cram It: zigging…zagging….its all the same. I would look in my old dictionary but it’s holding up the couch with the missing leg
@J-FOH:
Zigging and zagging are flip sides of the coin. It is not sufficient to say one is either zigging or zagging. One must also clarify that all the other members of a given set are taking the opposite path.
I can zig when you zag, I can zag when you zig. I’m a mutherfucking zigzag ninja.
@OaktownSteve: Well zigging/zagging have to be attributed to an action in order to establish what the opposite action is. I feel like I qualified that everyone was doing the same thing, and denoted that as zigging. Therefore, until further notice, I shall not zig!
@Cram It: you are like seinfeld, “I choose not to zig!”
One thing about the Scout draft room. Lists Fielder, Ortiz, Morales, AROD as 1st base eligible. Folks should be careful. Especially with Fielder. He was close at 18 games.
@OaktownSteve: to clarify this, you can draft a guy listed as 1st base eligible then lose that when the system corrects itself?
Are we sure they’re going on 20 game eligibility?
@Grey: maybe they go on perceived games played of 1?
I just find it hard to believe they’re going to let people draft guys that have 1B listed for them, then remove that… But that did happen to Rudy in LABR with Fielder
@Grey: Now that’s what I call karmic justice!
@Grey: fielder wasn’t listed as 1B with Rudy, Rudy just didn’t check. any site that shows a guy as 1B then post draft suddenly he’s not is worse than anything (probably) that yahoo even does. i’d not play there if that’s true. just like with some of the stuff yahoo does a decent child would never set anything up like that.
if you look at the LABR draft on RTSports, it’ll show Fielder color-coded as a 1B. I don’t look at the positions on the site to be honest b/c i’m nose deep in my spreadsheet. Search/queue/pick. It is true that they had him as DH but the color-coding on the draft board should’ve informed me right away (it didn’t). I figured it out when looking at my roster and seeing Fielder at UTIL.
So it was totally ‘my bad’ but RTSports potentially compounded the error with their draft display.
I’m so terrified of my NL only league this year. Normally I’d say OF has depth, but there is no balance in the NL OF pool beyond the top tier or two.
I’m in decent shape going into the draft keeper wise, but I’m afraid I’m going to panic and spend all my money 15 minutes in because I’m terrified of getting shut out of the top tiers of 1B and OF.
Also, can we stop pretending that 2 Catches in an AL/NL only leagues is fun. There is nothing fun about have 2 catchers who wouldn’t start for my coed slow pitch league.
There is nothing fun about 2 catchers in any league, Dustin Garneau is not fun
@Grey:
I have been playing so long I once owned Bruce Bochy as a C2
Haha…Old man!
@Grey:
I’m so old I’ve actually become indifferent as to the activities of children on my lawn.
@OaktownSteve: you still have a lawn in California? I would assume it would be some kind of turf or a gravel/cactus/succulent thing by now
I’m so old children are on my lawn, but I can’t see or hear them, I’m just told they’re there
@Grey: I bet if they looked like Giancarlo then you could see them
Those gams, those arms, those pecs…Sigh…
@OaktownSteve: but have you owned Gaylord Perry?
@OaktownSteve: There was a period last year where I stuck minor leaguers in my Catcher spots because I was hemorrhaging BA there and couldn’t afford to. Essentially leaving those spots empty is not my idea of fantasy. Oh well they got my league fee.
@OneI’dWilly: 2 catchers in mono leagues is straight up crazy.
You like Braun at the at the 65th pick with
Pujols
Nado
Franco
JDong
Arrieta, I usually don’t draft a SP in the 3rd, but I need a horse that can get 220ing with no adds or trades
Not a huge fan of his this year
@Grey: I’m not either, but he was hanging out there for a while and I figured why not gamble a little bit. Bug went to school with him and I’m not a fan of him in general, but maybe some reversies will work.
She went to high school with him?
@Grey: Yep, Granada Hills and he was the Hebrew Hammer then too.
@Teddy Heater: Yelich’s moms used to come in and buy baseball pants from Kelly all time back when her and the ex owned Victory. Good family from what she knows of them.
And……. she also went out with Saberhagen a few times. She’s a regular ole baseball groupie, HA!!
HA!
Was he a douche?
@Grey: Saberhagen? Yep, he’s a McDouche for sho. You can bring it up next time we hang, she bags on him pretty good. He was relentless on asking her out, it took her a year to finally agree. Thankfully she never gave in to Canseco!
Hahahaha… Though I meant is Braun a douche?
@Grey: No, he was actually a good guy. Which is why she was so surprised that he took PED’s. He was just smarter than most of the guys cause they had a good idea of when they’d be tested. He would take it right after the game and flush it out of his system before he got to the stadium if by chance they were testing him.
So you’re telling me he was a nice guy that wore Ed Hardy shirts?
@Teddy Heater: Didn’t realize you were in same draft…
@Grey: That was pre Ed Hardy, but it did just find out that one her best gf banged him . Nice girl, surprised about that development.
Ha! This just keeps getting better… Can we get her best GF on the podcast to talk about this?
16 team dynasty: R/HR/RBI/SB/OBP/SLG K/QS/ERA/WHIP (K/BB)/SVHD
Would you trade AJ Pollock and Trent Clark for DeSheilds, Corbin, and Roman Quinn?
Nah
Hey, Grey! Bautista or Betts this year in a head to head points league? Thanks!
Betts
Im keeping Trout, Springer, J.Upton, Arenado, Rendon, and Carrasco. For my last keeper, 4th OF in Brantley or keep a 1b in Papi? We start 3 OF, Papi has 1b for Yahoo. Thanks
Papi
Deep keeper, standard 5×5 h2h, 12 teams. Domingo or Rhymer?
Domingo
@Grey: Domingo vs pillar?
Did this guy in our draft go to autopick?
@OaktownSteve: Billy Burns?
@The Great Knoche: Yeah, I’m not thrilled with my team so far. I was hoping Seager was going to be out there a bit longer cause he wasn’t in the rankings, but I was wrong.
@Teddy Heater: Yup, in same boat. Once I took Posey my plan went out the window.
Who?
@Grey:
The guy drafting second. I logged in and there was a pick there and now he’s on the clock again. Wondering if he abandoned the draft
@OaktownSteve:
Hes back
If he auto picked it would get picked immediately, right? Not after 8 hours
@Grey:
I meant time expired and the machine picked that one time for him. But it doesnt matter…he made his next pick. Headed back your way.
It’s starting to get picked clean
@Grey: What round y’all in?
We’ve stalled… Barely into the 7th
Need help with my last two keepers in an NL 4X4
Keeping: Goldschmidt, Marte, Greinke,Jensen,Synderagaard.
Have choose from these:
Matt Holliday Wacha Leaning towards Russell and Wong but thinking about
G Parra Jamie Garcia Ozuna and maybe Parra.
Marcel Ozuna John Lackey Thanks
Kolton Wong Wilton Castillio Mike
Addison Russell
Wong, Russell
Need to pick 2 to keep (10 team, OBP league), with draft pick round I give up if kept in parenthesis:
Sano (20)
JD Martinez (9)
Seager (20)
Salazar (17)
deGrom (7)
Carrasco (8)
Note: If I choose Sano and Seager, they’d take my 20th and 21st rounds.
Thanks, pal!
Seager, Sano
Help me pick some keepers!
Pick 2 hitters 1 pitcher, or 2 pitchers 1 hitter!
Nelson Cruz (give up 6th round pick)
Miguel Sano (Give up 24th round pick)
Danny Salazar (give up 23rd round pick)
Garrit Cole (give up 5th round pick)
David Ortiz (give up 5th round pick)
Johnny Cueto (Give up 7th round pick)
@TheCactusMan:
Side-note is: OBP and QS league
Sano, Salazar, Cole
Who should I keep? Maikel Franco or Steven Matz. In my league we get to keep free agent picks from last year as the last pick in our draft. We each get 3 keepers in a 12 team league.
Maikel
NL only with hits replacing AVG, ER and WHIP replaced by earned runs against and innings pitched.
comish either forgot or F’d up the keepers, i should’ve had marte/rizzo. we’re gonna work that out tomorrow. hopefully during that process somebody gets votto at value and i get rizzo back. 27 rounds, i F’d myself in the 14th by thinking too long on phillips vs carter, then when i typed in carter last second it went carter capps before i could choose c.carter. this cost me either carter (but i got howard later anyway, about the same thing) or one of nola/j.ross instead of either rubby/eickhoff. hellickson still out there.
C hundley (19, completely unbelieveable he sat at top of my draft board for maybe 5 rounds and was still there)
1B votto (2nd)
2B murphy (7th)
SS villar (17th, could’ve gone like assdribble earlier)
3B rendon (6th, missed franco earlier by 1 pick, somebody else grabbed when they should’ve, rather than yahoo’s stupid ass ADP, he was still quite earlier than that)
CI adams (20th, sat at top of board for maybe 3 rounds)
MI spangenberg (21st)
OF marte (1st, 10th out of 10)
OF heyward (4th)
OF grichuck (10th)
OF parra (8th)
util span (13th)
util howard (20th)
BN o.arcia (24th, no NA slot, just BN till he takes villar’s job)
BN jaso (starter here 26th round)
SP (H2H, 7 moves per week)
lester (3rd)
shark (5th)
w.chen (11th, knew i could wait here)
rubby (15th, here’s where my capps F’up hurt)
eickhoff (16th)
vince vela (22nd)
ray (23rd)
RP – jeffress (9th)
– smith (18th)
– j.diaz (27th)
-capps (14th, already dropped)
1,balanced and decent?
2. i seem weak in MI when spangenberg plays lefties. go for extra BN bat to alleviate or grab 4th RP. options
MI – dilsson/hanson/adames/k.tomlinson
RP – knebel/kelly/caminero/hudson/petit (for good innings). could lock up MIL with knebel of course. i had not idea i was double handcuffing MIL RP/SS, JB would be proud.
@What’s a Drexl?: adams should read 12th round, howard was 20th.
@What’s a Drexl?: also barely missed asche, in fact had i NOT f’d up the capps thing i’d have one of nola/ross over one of eickhoff/rubby probably PLUS maybe asche over jaso, mostly due to positional stuff (needing 3B backup of some type)
@What’s a Drexl?: no holds here, it’s clear, no reason to even have RP unless they might close, other than really good ones. and even then you’re in better shape having more SP to win innings and wins and K’s. i’d rather really have hellickson than siegrist in this system.
@What’s a Drexl?: shit, damn i’m tired also locke in the 25th. wondering where my 8th SP was.
Razzballers,
I’m looking for 1 player for our league drafting next Saturday.
Scoring – Roto
Non-Keeper
League Size – 12
Player Universe – Mixed
Auction
Online draft, but a few of us will be doing it together in San Diego. You don’t need to be present just online
Draft Date – Saturday (March 12) 6:30 pm pacific
Daily Lineup Changes
Extra Categories – Hits, OPS for hitters and losses and QS for pitchers
Entry Fee Required: $50
Contact: [email protected]
It’s a league that’s been 6 years going. Good guys.
@Pat: Should probably repost on Grey’s post tomorrow. Slim pickens in the viewing department on what will become yesterdays post shortly.
so your picking 2 of 10 6×6 +ops and holds
you get trout first then when it comes back you have the possibility of getting mookie and springer or marte, do you have a problem going 3 OF in first three rounds?
@dickerson’s jock…strap: 4 OF + 1 U for league
@dickerson’s jock…strap: you aren’t going to like your 1B/3B/CI guys much.
@goodfold2: i know, im worried