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The 2017 fantasy baseball rankings are under that link.  Why are you lifting your computer?  Not literally under that link!  Okay, you’re thick like a CVS receipt folded in half twelve times.  In years past, the top 40 starters is a mix of guys I like and don’t like.  Like a high cholesterol cow, it’s about half and half.  This year, I really had to struggle to find guys that I didn’t want to draft in the top 40 starters.  In the end, there were five starters in this top 40 starter post I was less okay, and more amscray.  Each fantasy team needs about six starters total, so tell me again why you need to draft starters early?  There’s a ton of them, like, this is simple math.  So, simple, there’s no actual number and just ‘a ton.’  As with past rankings, my tiers and projections are included for the low, low price of $19.99!  Kidding, they’re free.  The oxygen you need to live while reading them is gonna cost you though.  Anyway, here’s the top 40 starters for 2017 fantasy baseball:

21. Jose Quintana –  This is a new tier, but to see earlier tiers go to the top 20 starters for 2017 fantasy baseball.  This tier goes from Quintana until Lackey.  I call this tier, “There’s safety in numbers, especially number twos.”  If you went goofy high upside with your first starter, as my rankings may lead one to do, then this tier will help balance that.  As for Quintana, I almost made him his own separate tier, because he really doesn’t fit in any of these top 40 tiers.  The closest other tier that he makes sense for is “Slowly remove the hand from under your bun and click yo’ mouse” from the top 20 starters, but that felt too high to rank him.  He’s still only a 8 K/9 guy with a 2 BB/9.  That’s solid, don’t get me wrong, but it’s not a ‘1st starter on a fantasy team’ elite.  You can’t go to sleep dreaming of a 200 K season and wake with one.  As those in the year 199 might’ve said, “Why 200 K?”  Because everything else comes from Ks.  If a pitcher is striking guys out at that rate, it’s hard for them to go that wrong.  At a later date, I’ll go over exactly how to draft an entire fantasy staff, and there’s a possibility to go with a guy like Quintana for ratios then a guy, like, say, Robbie Ray for Ks.  Any hoo!  Quintana is safe, totally respectable.  Exciting?  Not especially, but some people think it’s exciting enough to just win their fantasy leagues with boring guys.  2017 Projections:  14-9/3.35/1.20/181 in 204 IP

22. Kyle Hendricks – I was listening to a podcast the other day and they were talking with the founder of Honest Tea, and he was saying about how he quit his job, got $50,000 from his dad and started making tea.  He had no passion for tea, didn’t have a clue about the beverage industry, but he did have a friend from Yale that was a buyer for Whole Foods.  Honest Tea becomes Whole Foods’ top selling beverage and the rest is history.  At the end of the podcast he was asked, did luck have anything to do with his success?  He said definitely no.  Yeah, and Hendricks doesn’t need luck to be a 2.13 ERA pitcher again.  2017 Projections:  14-9/3.41/1.14/175 in 198 IP

23. Masahiro Tanaka – I hate Tanaka!  Hate, hate, hate!  I have a “Love Trumps Hate” poster and I’ve crossed out the first two words and written over them, “Hate, Hate,” then squeezed in Masahiro at the bottom.  That’s how much I hate Tanaka!  Or how much I used to hate him.  Do I love him now?  No, not really, but I’m still drafting him if I went crazy upside with my first starter, so no more active hate for Tanaka, unless he disappoints, then all bets are off.  Which is also what Mookie’s family says when they get off an airplane.  2017 Projections:  13-10/3.47/1.13/172 in 201 IP

24. Cole Hamels – He’s like the Jack Morris of this era.  Prolly better, actually, but I’m too lazy to open Morris’ stat page.  Year in, year out, Hamels gets 200 IP and keeps his teams in the game.  In 2214 1/3 IP, he has a 3.31 ERA and last year he had a 3.32 ERA.  The extra walk on his BB/9 last year is concerning, but that isolated isn’t terrible.  The bigger issue is he dominated for ten years with a nasty change.  For many years, he had the best change in the game.  Last year, it wasn’t even his best pitch and just barely a positive.  To use Tim Gunn speak, he made it work, but to use a pitch that’s not effective more and abandon a pitch that was his bread and butter worries me.  Enough to avoid?  No, not quite that worrisome. 2017 Projections:  15-10/3.56/1.22/197 in 202 IP

25. Rich Hill – Here’s what I said this offseason, “(Hill) re-signed with the Dodgers.  *Dodgers seeing other free agent starters still available Ivan Nova, Derek Holland, Jason Hammel, Jorge de la Rosa, Doug Fister*  “Rich Hill, are you sure all you want is $48 million?  We can throw in pickup games for your kids with Magic.  Want Scully to announce your daughter’s bat mitzvah?  You’re not Jewish?  Want Scully to convert you?  He can bris the junk out of you!  Literally!  What else can we do for you?”  Without looking at Google, can I bet someone that Hill is not represented by Scott Boras?  Boras would’ve been like, “Wait, so you’re saying the best starter free agent after Hill is Jeremy Hellickson?  Okay, Rich, we’re not accepting anything beneath $200 million over ten years.”  Speaking of Hellickson, he accepted a $17.2 million one-year, qualifying offer and Hill’s deal averages $16 million over three years.  Any ideas of who represented Hellickson?  You guessed it!  Boras.  So, Hill re-signs with the Dodgers, and, unless he gets injured immediately and stays injured for three years (which isn’t out of the realm of possibilities with Hill), you have to love the deal for the Dodgers and fantasy.”  And that’s me quoting me!   2017 Projections:  14-5/2.74/1.03/144 in 125 IP

26. John Lackey – His slider pitch value in 2015 was -2.3; last year it was 25.1.  It went from below average to the best slider in baseball.  If that don’t make you harumph, you’re dead inside.  Maybe at age 38 he learned something new; maybe Kyle Hendricks taught him something.  I know what they say about old dogs, but Lackey has some Elway teeth so I’m not sure a dog is the right animal metaphor.  Last year was his highest K/9, but at 38 years of age, his career numbers, are less inspiring.  He does feel safe here and worth investing in as a number two if you took a slightly flimsier number one.  2017 Projections:  14-8/3.54/1.15/177 in 190 IP

27. Kevin Gausman – This is a new tier.  This tier goes from here until Gray.  I call this tier, “Crazy is super subjective.”  Are these rankings crazy?  I don’t know, over-the-internet friend, I briefly had McCullers in the top 20 starters and felt kinda okay with it.  I might be crazy but A) It’s cause I’m crazy for these starters.  B) Mental illness is nothing to make fun of.  C) There’s no C.  To answer at least fifteen of you, stats are not all that goes into rankings.  Yes, guys in this tier have better projections than some (all?) of the guys in the previous tier, but there’s a lot of risk with this tier.  With starters, I don’t mind a ton of risk, but there’s no denying that, say, McCullers is hella more risky than Lackey.  As for Gausman, I’m goofy for young pitchers with nasty stuff that are entering their third full season who look like they’re coming into their own.  Gausman almost fills that bill.  He’s entering his fifth season, but the O’s yanked his chain, sending him to and fro the minors so many times, it’s kinda like his third full season.  He has 453 IP in his major league career, that’s about right for a breakout.  Last year, he had a 8.7 K/9 and 2.4 BB/9.  Better than F-Her, Greinke and Hamels.  One slight worry, Gausman relies on a splitter and if hitters lay off it, then it’s fastball all day, and then they sit on that and burp.  2017 Projections:  13-10/3.51/1.25/193 in 195 IP

28. Lance McCullers – True story:  I started writing a sleeper post for McCullers, and started looking at his stats and I was like, “Sleeper?  Grey, my man, handsome AF compatriot, McCullers isn’t a sleeper, he’s, like, a top 20 starter, but, hmm, his health.”  Maybe I got crackers in my head and they’re crumby.  Maybe I’m just like my father, too bold.  Maybe I should be committed or just in a committed relationship with an Astros fan, because I love McCullers so much it’s got me wacky in the noodle!  The only big drawback, and I’ll admit it is a rather large elephant in his safari-themed bedroom.  He was shut down last year with elbow soreness.  There’s a slight chance here that he doesn’t make it out of spring training.  Nothing else in his profile is saying less than a top 20 starter.  His K/9 last year was 11.8.  His xFIP was 3.06, which would’ve been third best in the majors behind Jo-Fer (RIP) and Syndergaard.  He walks a bunch of guys, but he’s like Darvish or Scherzer.  You cannot hit McCullers if he’s healthy.  Yes, I mean business when I spell out can’t.  Then, out of curiosity, I looked at Tristan Cockcroft’s top 250.  He doesn’t have McCullers ranked!  Wow.  I, honestly, am speechless.  You wanted a limb, here’s one.  Why are you grabbing my arm?!  I was speaking metaphorically.  2017 Projections:  12-6/3.26/1.19/205 in 170 IP

29. Aaron Nola – There’s another name for this tier, “These guys effed me so bad last year that I’ll draft one of them on the condition that I can drop them on their head in real life if they don’t make good this year.”  Yeah, no doubt, Gwen Stefani.  I hear ya, they killed us all.  I’m right there with you.  Though, more likely, if you owned Pineda, Taijuan and Nola last year, you probably aren’t reading this because you gave up on fantasy baseball because your general practitioner said it was bad for your heart.  Sorry, we have to go back in on these guys, so it’s time for the defibrillator!  It’s time for the defibrillator!  It’s time for the defibrillator!  Meh, that works better with percolator.  If Nola would’ve had, say, Roark’s luck (or defense) last year, Nola would be a top 15 starter this year.  His 3.08 xFIP shows how unlucky he was.  Nola could be a 2.50 ERA guy with great defense.  No foolsies.  I won’t go that far, but I will be back in on him and I don’t even need to see Nola’s tourism board commercials.  2017 Projections:  10-11/3.46/1.21/161 in 155 IP

30. Taijuan Walker – Here’s what I said this offseason, “The Diamondbacks got a head start on Black Friday sales on Wednesday when they traded Jean Segura, Mitch Haniger and Zac Curtis to the Mariners for Taijuan Walker and Ketel Marte.  What’s that old axiom, if you don’t know who the sucker is at the table, you’re the sucker.  Mariners, you’re the sucker.  If anyone forgot that the Diamondbacks fired Dave Stewart immediately following the end of the season, this was a reminder.  If Stewart were still there, the Diamondbacks would’ve traded Greinke for Todd Walker.  As Dave Stewart would say after reading that, “I’m not mad at ya.”  Don’t love the move to Chase Field for Taijuan, but the NL West makes that medicine go down a little easier, chim chiminy chim chiminy chim chim cher-ee!  Walker had a 8 K/9 and 2.5 BB/9 last year in 134 1/3 IP.  That goes up to 8.5 in the NL West and he’s pretending to yawn as he puts his arm around a low to mid-3 ERA.  The only thing that’s stopping you from nodding your head like a plus-size Pez is that Walker hasn’t done it yet.  He’s only 24 years old, not doing it yet isn’t a great excuse for never doing it.”  And that’s me quoting me!  2017 Projections:  12-11/3.44/1.18/153 in 160 IP

31. Marcus Stroman – I need to get to the end of the rankings and write so many more pitcher sleeper posts, which is something I say every year then never get around to it.  Alas, the road of good intentions is paved with Sabathia’s girdles.  Okay, these girdles are everywhere!  So, I looked at Stroman’s player page and I looked at his height and I was like, “Five-one!?  I knew doode was short, but I didn’t know him and Altuve go on the Merry Go Round while all the other players go on the rollercoaster.”  Then I realized I was looking at Stroman’s birthday, 5/1.  Hey, Fantasy Master Lothario, how about you have one more cup of coffee?  Stroman’s five-nine, according to him, at least.  He’s tiny, which isn’t the end all, and now he’s heading into that glorious 3rd year.  Last year, his 2nd half K-rate was 8.5 and his walk rate was 2.2.  If David Price would’ve been that good, he’d be a top five starter again.  Oh, and Stroman has the best ground ball rate in the majors.  Nope, no typo.  The best.  Number one!  The big mahoff!  The head cheese!  The last guy in line that gets tickets to see Rogue One and just happens to find a seat directly in the middle of the theater!  The compass you stash in your lower colon in case you’re ever lost in the woods!  Okay, maybe not the last one.  Stroman’s 2nd half ERA was only 3.68 and that looks like the floor, which I’ve found out Stroman is not 61 inches away from.  It’s a birthdate, you idiot!  2017 Projections:  12-8/3.55/1.24/184 in 204 IP

32. Michael Pineda – Already gave you my Michael Pineda sleeper.  I wrote it ‘on one.’  2017 Projections: 12-7/3.46/1.16/214 in 195 IP

33. Jon Gray – I ranked a Rockies starter in the top 40 starters!  HA!  Okay, I really am crazy.  The bottom of the loony bin has been hit and it was hit by my medulla oblongta.  By the way, oblongta is my favorite pasta shape.  A Rockies starter?  Really?  Even I’m not sure.  Maybe this limb I’m out on will collapse.  Maybe it won’t.  Maybe it will collapse into a bed of roses where Giancarlo is waiting in his birthday suit.  We need answers here!  So, a Rockies starter before King Felix, okay, I can talk through this.  Gray had the 11th best swinging strike rate, and the 14th lowest contact rate.  A low contact rate and a high swinging strike rate means what?  It means people can’t hit him.  The best of the best are in those two subsets.  Gray is just above Carrasco in low contact and just above Carrasco and Verlander for swinging strikes.  Most don’t throw strikes and miss bats often, Gray does.  His slider is one of the best in the game and he throws it 27% of the time.  27% of the time the batter has no chance.  I know, I know, so what, what about Coors?  Yeah, it’s gonna be a tightrope, but he had a 4.30 ERA last year at home with a 10.1 K/9.  That sounds like Chris Archer’s full season last year.  I’m super scared about drafting a Rockies pitcher too, but I think we have to fall into Gray’s arms.  Not mine!  Get up!  2017 Projections:  12-10/3.77/1.23/208 in 191 IP

34. Aaron Sanchez – This is a new tier.  This tier goes from here until F-Her.  I call this tier, “Get out of here before my mom comes down!”  This tier is filled with guys that we talked sweet nothings to last year in our mom’s basement, but all good things must come to an end.  Sanchez, for unstints, I owned him last year and enjoyed it about as much as an Astro Pop on a hot day.  I expected to be dazzled by his numbers.  Or at least have my country-western belt bedazzled.  Then I looked at his stats and my ding dang no longer wants to dufrickie.  Last year, he had a 7.6 K/9, 3 BB/9 and a 3.75 xFIP.  His 3.00 ERA was buoyed by a .267 BABIP, and that K-rate doesn’t exactly tell me he’s going to be fine even if more hits get through, and he relies heavily on grounders (54.4% ground ball rate; 5th highest in majors).  This Sanchez is dirty, but I need him to be filthy.  2017 Projections:  11-11/3.66/1.22/176 in 197 IP

35. David Price –  Member how terrible Verlander looked for a few years while he tried to figure out how to pitch in his early 30’s when he started losing velocity?  Okay, so maybe David Price is a quick learner, but he can’t do what he did last year and expect to get by.  Don’t believe any pitcher that has ever been as good as him can go sideways?  Look at the road paved with CC Sabathia’s girdles.  He dropped them along the way.  Lincecum’s using one right now to clean out his bong.  Price may not be done, but I’m sure as heckfire not paying Price’s, uh, price for a hopeful bounce back from a guy that lost two miles on his fastball.  As they say in France, arrividontwantcha.  2017 Projections:  13-10/3.74/1.21/173 in 180 IP

36. Tanner Roark – I spent the last twenty minutes trying to figure out how Roark was so successful last year.  I spent two minutes seeing how he caused a lot of grounders and a lot of them were caught, more than he had any right getting caught.  Then spent 18 minutes on eBay and now I have a Garry Templeton Sideburns Trimmer, advertising slogan, “They’ll kinda look like Florida.”  Mr. Roark could succeed again if he’s lucky again, but I wouldn’t want to be stranded on that Fantasy Island with the chance of him getting Tattoo’d.  2017 Projections:  14-11/3.79/1.26/165 in 199 IP

37. Rick Porcello – Ya know, there was a time I liked you, Porcello.  Prolly about five years’ worth of time scattered over your seven years of playing.  Then you go and put it all together when I don’t own you anywhere.  Some people would call that altogether ungrateful.  (Is it obvious I just Googled how to use altogether vs. all together and am now making use of my newfound knowledge?  *Note to self, newfound vs new found*)  2017 Projections:  14-11/3.81/1.23/177 in 210 IP

38. Zack Greinke – No foolin’, I can’t figure out what’s to like about Greinke.  This feels like the year after Sabathia’s first poor year, and everyone was still going after him.  I kinda wanted to drop Greinke about ten more spots in the rankings, but I looked around and can’t find anyone that’s ranked him this low, so it’s low enough to avoid him.  As to Greinke and F-Her’s appearance in a tier of guys that were good last year, they were good in March of last year before they pitched one inning.  Okay, I’m cheating.  2017 Projections:  12-9/3.71/1.17/167 in 190 IP

39. Felix Hernandez – I’m old enough to remember when F-Her was a great pitcher.  Though, a two-year-old could be old enough to remember it.  F-Her could get to 4,000 Ks in his career, said no one that has seen his career trajectory over the last two years.  That luster he can no longer muster.  That would also make a good eulogy for when you’re burying a cubic zirconia.  Unlike Greinke, who I think could potentially have a 4.50+ ERA and be goofy bad, F-Her feels safe, but super bleh.  2017 Projections:  12-10/3.77/1.28/169 in 201 IP

40. Vince Velasquez – This is a new tier.  This tier goes from here until the top 60 starters for 2017 fantasy baseball.  I call this tier, “These guys give me the good willies.”  By the tier name I mean, you can get good willies and bad willies, and now I’m getting them good.  As for Velasquez, already gave you my Vince Velasquez sleeper.  It was written while I thought about how many Phillies starters I liked and how hurting for wins I’m going to be.  Stupid wins!  2017 Projections:  11-11/3.54/1.23/177 in 155 IP

 
  1. henncoop says:
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    Oh happy day… part duos …sucks to have to wait till next week for the next 60 SPs ( I assume). I had to chuckle at all the reference to mental illness, loony bins, & crumbly crackers as I am once again at work on a good night ( so far) working on a locked psych unit.
    Looking forward to all the good reads & another fantastic fantasy season.

  2. Ante GALIC says:
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    Grey!

    Great post, these get better and better as it is more and more evident that there are a lot of good pitchers in the top 40 – some minefields, but a lot of gems.

    a. Quick question. You have Jameson Taillon in your list of tags yet he doesn’t appear in the top 40. Is this on purpose so you can

    1. set me up to ask this question;
    2. does appear in the top 60 but meant to be in the top 40;
    3. There is no third option.

    b. I could love Yu as my #1 and Hill as #2. That’d be an awesome 1-2 punch.

    Cheers,
    Ante

    • Ante GALIC says:
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      @Ante GALIC: Grey!

      Just caught it. No Gerrit Cole in the tags list. Guess Taillon will be #41? Please reply to this question, I will not be able to sleep well otherwise!

      Have a nice weekend.

      Cheers,
      Ante

    • Duda Want to Build a Snowman? says:
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      @Ante GALIC: Yeah for sure on that 1-2 combo, particularly in 10-12 team leagues where it’s very easy to find pitching streamers on the wire. If he gets another blister, who cares? He’s per-game stats are essentially Kershaw-level when he’s actually out there!

    • Grey

      Grey says:
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      @Ante GALIC: A. Oops, why are you looking at the tags? B. Yeah, hopefully you get more than 250 total innings from them… Though, it would be a great 250 IP

      • Ante GALIC says:
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        @Grey: Grey!

        Sorry, ga! I look at the tags to make sure everything is on the up and up! So now you have me intrigued.

        Why is Taillon in the tags and Cole is not? Answer please!

        Cheers,
        Ante

        • Grey

          Grey says:
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          Taillon’s in Velasquez’s tier and was at 40, but got bumped when I moved someone up

          • Ante GALIC says:
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            @Grey: Grey!

            Thanks, man! Now I’ll be able to sleep tonight.

            I was just busting your chops, I apologize for that.

            How can I make it up to you?

            Cheers,
            Ante

            • Grey

              Grey says:
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              Send me a donkey with a Mercedes emblem

              • Robert says:
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                @Grey: I’m sure he’d also accept a mercedes with a donkey emblem.

  3. Damon says:
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    Grey,
    I know this is hard to predict, but at what point do find yourself grabbing a starter? Are we talking Round 5? I generally always wait on starter and when I don’t, my teams suck, so I agree with you. I always struggle with finding the sweet spot though. I see a starter dangling out there and the potential value overwhelms me!

    • Grey

      Grey says:
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      @Damon: I’ll go over exactly how to draft, but, yeah, around pick 50-60 overall is the first starter area

    • Big W says:
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      @Damon: once the starters prior to the verlander ranking have been taken, that’s when you make your move.

      • Robert says:
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        @Big W: Every draft I have with my friends in our keeper league I lean back, fold my hands together and low and easy say the following:

        And now we play the waiting game…

  4. Troy says:
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    Gray that Gausman to Gray tier is so sexy. I have all but Mccullers on my roster. Add in Paxton and that’s my staff. The rest of my league think I have the worst staff because I don’t have an like wino

    • Grey

      Grey says:
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      @Troy: Was that albino autocorrected?

      • Troy says:
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        @Grey:

        It was Waino aurocorrected, but he pitches like a wino so maybe it’s more accurate

  5. Tigres says:
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    Love love love the SP rankings Grey. Only a few weeks until ST starts!

    • Grey

      Grey says:
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      @Tigres: It’s a crazy time to be alive!

  6. Jason says:
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    In my 12 team keeper league I’m thinking about keeping quintana (7th rd 76th overal) and k-rod (12th rd 141st overall). If I can get one of Carrasco archer Martinez in the 5th rd (52nd overall), would you consider those 2 at good value and a solid 1-2 to anchor my rotation? Thanks Grey!

    • Jason says:
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      @Jason:

      I’m not thrilled with k-rod 12th rd I could just keep quintana in 7th or keep none at all and pick by myself in those rds because everyone else will have keepers.

    • Grey

      Grey says:
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      @Jason: Sounds good

      • Jason says:
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        @Grey:

        So would you keep quintana with the 76th pick ? Thanks

        • Grey

          Grey says:
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          Nah

          • Jason says:
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            @Grey:

            Last question on Quintana promise! With HOU getting the cards 2 top picks I think they might pull the trigger and get quintana. Would quintana on the astros change your mind? Thanks!

            • Grey

              Grey says:
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              It would give him an extra 3 wins

  7. Paul Sherman says:
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    I also work on a locked psyche unit! Probably a theme developing. Anyway, thanks Grey. As always, appreciate the hustle.

  8. Dodger Rabbit says:
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    Surprised Taillon didn’t crack the top 40, but guessing it’s b/c of his lower K/9 than a lot of these guys. Even so, am I crazy for thinking he’ll outperform Grienke?

    • Grey

      Grey says:
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      @Dodger Rabbit: He’s in same tier as Taillon, coming on Monday… It’s more b/c he won’t pitch a full season

  9. nightpandas says:
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    Grey,

    lots of interesting trades:

    Keep 11 forever 15 teams OBP SLG QS K/9 roto

    Projected keepers:

    C
    1 Rizzo
    2 Dozier
    3
    SS Correa
    LF Mazara
    CF Dahl
    RF Trumbo
    Util Crush
    SP Gausman Walker Harvey (also have Matz)
    RP W Davis

    Which would you choose:

    A: Give Dozier for Kinsler and Quintana (and not keep one of three pitchers above)
    B: Give Rizzo/Correa for Springer/Boegarts/J Turner/Duffy (move Crush to first and not keep 2 pitchers above)
    C: Give Rizzo/Dahl/Matz for Posey/Abreu/Salazar (move Crush to first and not keep one pitcher above)
    D: hold
    E: counter with Dahl Matz for Salazar (he wouldnt take Dahl Salazar straight up)

    C: Give

    • Cram It says:
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      @nightpandas: Aren’t all trades interesting? I mean they pique your interest, but people like to put adjectives in front of “trade”. “Crazy”, “unusual”, “fascinating”, “captivating”! Okay, maybe not the last one. But unless there’s a pint of Ben & Jerry’s “The Tonight Dough” and a blowjob from his girlfriend thrown in, it’s not interesting enough to preface it as “interesting” – it’s just a trade.

      -Really deep thoughts, by Cram

      • nick the dick says:
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        @Cram It: Just bought some Tonight Dough from the grocery store last night, and man, that stuff can be better than some girlfriend blowjobs. Ya know, those just-the-tip non-chokers

        • Cram It says:
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          @nick the dick: I just discovered it. It’s goddamn amazing.

          RIght?! And the big joke is always how we don’t know what we’re doing down there. I’ve encountered way more bad blowjobbers than good. It’s mainly a white girl problem.

          • nick the dick says:
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            @Cram It: A few amazing B&J’s ice creams out there right now, that Dough though…

            I am way above average at what I do down there, too many girls need to step their game up. I’m embarrassed for them. So true it’s more a white girl thing, best i’ve had was certainly not that race

            • Cram It says:
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              @nick the dick: It is embarrassing sometimes. And annoying when you have to maneuver to something else because you want her stop whatever the hell she thinks she is doing down there.

              • Big Odio says:
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                @Cram It: the tonight dough makes me question if controlling my diabetes is really worth it. Speaking on blow jobs I have found that the ladies with Latin blood generally come to the table with some skills. They are never anorexics and love shoving things in their mouth which always goes to the T&A .

                • Cram It says:
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                  @Big Odio: Just one bite!

                  The ladies of the Latin American persuasion have rarely, if ever, disappointed in the bedroom.

                  • Big Odio says:
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                    @Cram It: AMEN to that! The effort is top notch and they always like to bring you something to eat which I assume is to gas you up to ride you again.

                    I do take just one bite…then two more.

                    • nick the dick says:
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                      @Big Odio: best of the bunch and it’s not very close

        • Grey

          Grey says:
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          @nick the dick: Is it anything more than cookie dough ice cream?

          • Cram It says:
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            @Grey: Chocolate and caramel ice cream with chocolate swirls, cookie dough, and peanut butter gobs.

            • Grey

              Grey says:
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              Not a huge PB fan, but that sounds like it needs a try

              • Cram It says:
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                @Grey: It’s not overwhelming by any means. Like 2 or 3 little gobs.

                • Grey

                  Grey says:
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                  Right now, I’m eating Halo Top, which is like 250 calories for a whole pint… It’s not bad, well, some of the flavors

                  • Cram It says:
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                    @Grey: Oh wow, that’s good to know. I will eat the whole pint in a sitting so it’s best if I’m not always buying The Tonight Dough. Alternative Ice Cream!

                    • Grey

                      Grey says:
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                      HA, stick with Strawberry, Birthday Cake or Vanilla…Some other flavors are funky

                    • Cram It says:
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                      @Cram It: Vanilla? Who eats plain vanilla ice cream?

                    • Grey

                      Grey says:
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                      When a full pint is only 150 calories….

                    • Cram It says:
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                      @Cram It: For those nights when cougs calls you fat and you need to drown your sorrows while watching a Lifetime movie. Do you wash it down with Budweiser Select 55?

                    • Grey

                      Grey says:
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                      HA… I prefer the New Edition movie and box water

              • Big Odio says:
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                @Grey: it’s peanut butter cookie dough

                • Grey

                  Grey says:
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                  Sounding less great

                  • nick the dick says:
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                    @Grey: Nah it’s fire. Don’t get me started on the ones with whole cores of caramel or cookie gooey type shit. You wanna talk classic? The coffee heath bar with the huge chunks in it, basically whole bars split maybe in 3 pieces and shoved in there. Cash me wit a spoon, how bou dah?

                    • Grey

                      Grey says:
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                      Okay, on cash me wit a spoon, how bou dah? when did Dr. Phil become Jerry Springer? Was that always a thing?

                  • Big Odio says:
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                    @Grey: I have a soft spot for peanut butter cookies. My grandma made them all the time when I was a kid

                    • Grey

                      Grey says:
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                      Interesting, you should save that for your autobiography

                    • nick the dick says:
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                      @Big Odio: something about criss-crossing the fork on top just gets me…

                    • Big Odio says:
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                      the cross fork is on my flag

                  • nick the dick says:
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                    @Grey: Yeah he’s always been a button presser. Bunch of weird hicks on that show. I just thought you’d be impressed I knew that. I’m hip! (Saw my wife watching it clips or memes or something)

                    • Grey

                      Grey says:
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                      That clip made me laugh for about an hour straight… It was like candy though, couldn’t watch it the next day… Used up all its appeal… You watch Top Chef last night?

                  • nick the dick says:
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                    @Grey: I sure did. We’ll talk TC in a bit, I need a nap while my 2 year old and sick wife are snoozing. I’m not hip!

                    • Grey

                      Grey says:
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                      Nice, come back for it

      • nightpandas says:
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        @Cram It: poor choice of words on my part plus I should no better than to include a trade with a catcher in it….

        • Cram It says:
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          @nightpandas: Seriously though, I wouldn’t trade any of those packages.

    • Goldirocks says:
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      @nightpandas:
      I’d keep Rizzo and Correa side over any of the packaged trade ideas you showed for what you’re trying to get.
      Also in a keeper you may want to keep a bat like Dahl? I personally like Matz over Gausman or Walker, but I guess that is nit-picking? If you really want to get Salazar, maybe try two of your pitchers you feel comfortable in letting go, rather than losing a bat in a 2 for 1 deal?

  10. John says:
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    Grey, excellent post. I thought Jameson Taillon was going to be in the top 40. Anyway, keeper question:

    5×5 roto league. Can keep 15 players for this year with no restriction of positions. Already got 9 offensive players: Gary Sanchez, Hosmer, Odor, Bryant, Segura, Blackmon, Harper, Dahl, Polanco.
    SP: Scherzer, Bumgarner, Strasbourg, Duffy, Hendricks, Hill.

    Would you change any of all those players for one or two out of this list: Cody Allen, Kinbrel, Tailon, J Upton, Franco?

    Thanks.

    • Grey

      Grey says:
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      @John: Thanks! Meh, looks pretty good

  11. ChrisL says:
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    Grey: Can you give me 3 SP that you are drafting everywhere?

    Thank you!

    • Grey

      Grey says:
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      @ChrisL: See the posts

      • SwaggerJackers says:
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        @Grey: BURN

  12. The Stras that broke the Hamels back says:
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    14-Team H2H Keep 5 Forever League (adds another keeper every year):

    1) Should I be targeting two more starters from the top 40 to go with Carrasco to solidify my staff or just one and go bargain shopping later in the draft.

    2) Should I trade Bogaerts for Freeman if I don’t land a 1B inside you’re top 15? I would have Trea to slide to SS when eligible.

  13. Curious George Springer says:
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    I’m curious. Let’s stipulate that Matt Harvey looks totally healthy and has his velocity and command in spring training.

    In that scenario, on a team in a ten team league where IP and K/9 are categories (K/9 replaces Ks), would you keep Matt Harvey, Rich Hill, or Kevin Gausman? (Keep forever format)

    Harvey seems like such the upside pick who, if healthy, could be back to being a top ten SP. that said, I love me some Gausman.

    Okay. I see a group of dogs chasing an ice cream truck. I love ice cream! Gotta go!

  14. MJS says:
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    Keeper League – pitcher conundrum over here. Generally don’t keep pitchers, but this year, at this value, trying to decide between:

    – Verlander, Round 11
    – Hendricks, Round 18
    – Salazar, Round 18

    And then there’s Addison Russell at Round 13. Pick two of the pitchers and Russell.

    Can keep any or all for three years. Also keeping Polanco, Desmond, Buxton.

    Thoughts?

    Thanks!

    • Curious George Springer says:
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      @MJS: Verlander and Salazar for me. I’m a slave to the Ks, and Salazar has ace upside. Hendricks is just a likely to be meh as great (for him, which is a good ERA, but not great Ks)

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          @MJS: I thought you were saying two SPs plus Russel. I don’t think that changes my answer. I’m not sold on Russel’s upside.

    • Grey

      Grey says:
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      @MJS: Salazar, tough call…

      • Aubrey Plaza's Pillow says:
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        @Grey: he needs 2 out of the players listed.

  15. Nelson says:
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    Is Porcello the lowest drafted Cy young winner in the following year in history?

    • Grey

      Grey says:
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      @Nelson: I was pretty down on Keuchel following year, but not this down

  16. CMUTimmah says:
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    Jose Quintana is always a want for me. But he’s always over valued due to his safe projecting. He’s not a guy that’s going to be a top 10 pitcher, but he is a guy that’s going to give you stability in your fantasy rotation. I’m greedy, and if I don’t think a pitcher has a high ceiling, I’m likely not taking them as high as I’d have to take Quintana. So no way Jose.

    Stroman over Sanchez? That’s a bit of a head scratcher to me. League adjusted to him early last year, then he adjusted to the league, but Stroman wasn’t blowing anyone away. Sanchez on the other hand was just dirty last year. They are close, but all else the same, I’m leaning towards a dirty sanchez. (yes, I had to do it. Yes, I have a mustache.)

    • Grey

      Grey says:
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      @CMUTimmah: Sanchez’s numbers don’t say he was that good last year

  17. StormIn' Norman says:
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    Grey! I love it when it is that time of the offseason to jump into the pitcher ranks. VERY exciting stuff. Thanks to you I generally draft a good staff and hope to do the same this coming season. How are you feeling about Manea, J Ross (hit the music JB), Taillon, Reyes, Urias, Nova and Paxton?
    I feel I can get these guys WAY late in a 10 team, 30 man roster league, freeing me up to draft way more bats early. I don’t want to deal with any 1B-man after Freeman and I want to draft at least 2 OF (out of 5)in the first 5 rounds.
    Thanks again, and do you know when Rudy will be posting the Steamer/Razz point values?

  18. Burningbridges247 says:
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    Keeper league- Verlander $7, Darvish $5, McCullers $5. I don’t even have to tell you how happy this top-40 list just made me. I totally agree with what you said about McCullers, and I’m a Rangers fan; her is a force of nature. The reason you have him so high and (almost) everyone else has him so low is because you out-think the room on a rather consistent basis, i.e. your advice above all others. Great post, Mustache Man.

  19. Duda Want to Build a Snowman? says:
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    Memba’ when we didn’t even give John “kemit the frog” Lackey a rank?

      • Duda Want to Build a Snowman? says:
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        @Grey: Correction, you ranked him last in 2015 with my favorite projections ever of “2015 Projections: Bleh-blah/Burp/Derpy/Yeah, no thanks”. http://razzball.com/top-100-starters-2015-fantasy-baseball/

        This is actually a huge credit to you for guys like Lackey, Freeman, and other ones that were previously uber-shunned by you/Razz . . . when they make changes or show something a little more, you guys always give them due credit.

        • Grey

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          Ah, yeah

  20. Matty says:
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    As excited as I am to have a lot of the guys you’ve already written up in my deep dynasty for short money (and I am super stoked about that) I’m a little sad that I won’t get to use as many of your great late pitchers to make my league mates look like jabronis.
    That’s life.

    • Burningbridges247 says:
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      @Matty: Ha! Same here. I comfort myself knowing I will be spending so little on my pitching that I can load up on bats. That has to leave you with a warm and fuzzy feeling.

  21. Duda Want to Build a Snowman? says:
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    Not to go back to the 1B rankings, but how many spots does Carlos Santana jump in OBP + OPS leagues?

    One league is going keeper format this year, and though I’d prefer Rizzo, I’m wondering if I can save salary without sacrificing much by sneaking in to get Santana (95/31/79/5 with a .360-.370 obp instead of .266 ba) who looks like he can do a fake Rizzo, for probably half the price.

    Thanks!

  22. Tim says:
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    My keepers are Bumgarner, Sale, Lester, Mookie, T. Turner, Encarnacion.

    I got offered Goldschmidt for MadBum from a guy who needs pitching badly.

    I know I should take this, but I’ve had Bumgarner for 5 years and it’s so hard to let him go. Convince me please!

    • Cram It says:
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      @Tim: Take Goldschmidt, don’t be an idiot. That help?

      • Tim says:
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        @Cram It: hurts my feelings but yes.

        • Duda Want to Build a Snowman? says:
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          @Tim: In case you have any second guesses, that is a “take Paul immediately before they regret the offer” type scenario.

    • Grey

      Grey says:
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      @Tim: Agree with Cram

    • Big W says:
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      @Tim: Grey has Goldy rannked 2nd overall and no pitcher in the top 20 overall. It’s obvious what you need to do.

    • peacecoast says:
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      @Tim: Don’t be so mad about bums

    • Eli Man Penguin Boy says:
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      @Tim: i love joining keeper/dynasties with guys like bum or kershaw and immediately trading them for top 5 bats. did kershaw for goldy in two leagues 2 years ago in same week.

  23. Big Mike says:
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    Boss man,

    Keeping Klubot and Scherzer in a 12-team league where we can keep 8. How long should I wait to pick up my SP3?

    • Grey

      Grey says:
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      @Big Mike: Velasquez tier, around 120 overall

  24. seph meier says:
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    In my keep 12 forever start 6 sp weekly lineups I can potentially keep 4 or 5 of these sps:
    Arrieta, kluber, degrom, pineda, Sanchez, Fulmer, Paxton

    I put a trade idea in the head of the kershaw owner of Arrieta and degrom for Kershaw, would you recommend this idea?

    How Would you rank your top 4 keepers from this list?

    • Grey

      Grey says:
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      @seph meier: I’d take Kershaw…. deGrom, Kluber, Arrieta, Pineda

  25. kingforaday151 says:
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    I’ve got Bryant and Arenado in a keeper league with no MI and only one UTIL spot. I also have Bregman, and I’m likely keeping him too. Would you trade one of Arenado or Bryant for Harper? If so, which one? Would a Harper+Syndergard for Turner+Arenado/Bryant be asking for too much?

    Currently planning on keeping Turner/Benentendi in my OF, for what it’s worth….

  26. Wil says:
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    Currently flying from EWR to LAX. Comming in for a superbowl party. North Hollywood here I come!

    • Grey

      Grey says:
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      @Wil: Damn, what kind of party is that you’re flying across the country for?

  27. Duda Want to Build a Snowman? says:
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    Very excited that we’ll all be owning Cullers, Nola, and Pineda as these guys are the 50th, 57th, and 59th SPs off the board currently. A lot of other guys too, but these have the biggest differential. Nice!

  28. Quintero says:
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    The podcast about wholefoods…is that real? If so, I really would like to know why you were listening to it. You just made my day, Mr. Albright. Great one, sir!

    • Grey

      Grey says:
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      Yeah, that’s real… Was How I Built This podcast

  29. rapscallion13 says:
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    After the top 20 yesterday, not sure what to do. 13 team keeper league. Keep 4. Defn keeping Rizzo, Arenado, Cruz. Lester would be 4, but you have me second guessing. However, other options aren’t great. C Davis or Murphy or trade high draft for another option. Maybe Stanton or Braun. No dollars or rounds. Just keep then start draft after that.
    Please help oh great fantasy master lothario.

    • Grey

      Grey says:
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      Stanton

  30. Joe says:
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    Hey grey I’m in a 12 team dynasty league 7×7 and wanted to see what you thought of my team and where I need to improve. Thank you

    C: Gary Sanchez
    1b: Anthony Rizzo
    2b: odor
    Ss: Addison Russell
    3b: manny machado
    Of: Mookie Betts
    Of: Gregory polanco
    Of: JD Martinez
    Utility: Billy Hamilton
    Utility: adam eaton
    Bench: dandy Swanson
    Prospect: victor robles
    Prospect: jp Crawford
    Prospect: Brendan Rodgers
    Prospect: Austin meadows

    sp: Carlos Martinez
    SP: Danny Salazar
    Sp: Carlos carrasco
    Sp: Julio Teheran
    Sp: Vincent Velasquez
    Sp: Jameson taillon
    Sp: Blake snell
    Sp: Lucas giolito
    RP: AJ Ramos

    Draft is in a couple weeks thanks again

    • Grey

      Grey says:
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      Team looks stacked, maybe a tad low on power and higher on speed… Don’t love Eaton… Real nice pitching

      • Joe says:
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        @Grey: sweet thanks. I’ll draft some power

        • Grey

          Grey says:
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          No problem

  31. Big Odio says:
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    That Lackey blurb explains what happened to Jason Hammel last year. He had one of the top sliders in the game and Lackey must have voodooed his pitch away last year. Makes sense to me….ala Stan Gable “that’s my slider”

    • Grey

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      Ha

      • Big Odio says:
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        @Grey: speaking of funny things I should of read that non disclosure thing for that Matt Damon movie. I don’t what I can and can’t say. What I think I can say is that was the smallest theater I’ve ever been in. It was more like a viewing room.

        • Grey

          Grey says:
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          We get those screenings some time… I saw Spotlight last year in a production office that held 7 people…

          • Big Odio says:
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            @Grey: this was in the main offices for legendary pictures. They had the fancy 3d glasses too

            • Grey

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              Yeah, sounds like screenings we’ve gone to… Saw Hacksaw Ridge like that too…

              • Big Odio says:
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                @Grey: My first question was when can I come back then it followed with why are you making another king kong…Im not going back

                • Grey

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                  So, how was the movie?

                  • Big Odio says:
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                    @Grey: I think that breaks my agreement.

  32. ROTO OVERLORD says:
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    U watch the HK finale? Worst season Ive ever seen I can’t believe they had to name a winner. I know I asked you some keeper questions but there was a name I may have left off. Either way nice post Ill be back to ask u once I see the keeper rounds for them once more. Do you guys make a draft board cheat sheet?

    • Grey

      Grey says:
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      We do cheatsheets…. I didn’t watch HK this season, it was just too much… It felt like there were more seasons this past year than previous… I want that show once a year in the spring/summer

  33. hooydonck says:
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    Great lists Grey, as always. Because I know you are a busy man, here’s a slightly-off (yet burning hot) SP topic post from the OF list, which I re-post here for everyone’s convenience:

    How many ABs do you think Alex Dickerson will get?

    • Grey

      Grey says:
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      112

  34. CROWE says:
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    My Schoop ($4) for his Gary Sanchez ($9) in our keeper league. Thoughts?

    • Grey

      Grey says:
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      Sounds fine

  35. Jack Straw says:
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    Standard 5×5 roto auction league – keeper league with $5 annual price inflation, keep forever. Which side do you prefer:

    F. Lindor ($12) for Y. Darvish ($13), C. Carrasco ($18) and C.Martinez ($13)?

    Part 2 – based on OF rankings, assuming you like it more with S.Piscotty ($13) added on the Lindor side and D. Dahl ($8) added on the pitching side? Thoughts?

    • Grey

      Grey says:
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      Darvish… Yeah, Dahl makes it even better

      • Jack Straw says:
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        Must be fake news out of COL about Dahl competing with Parra for LF job?? They can’t really consider not providing regular at-bats to Dahl can they???

        • Grey

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          Fake news!

    • Grey

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      HA, awesome

  36. SwaggerJackers says:
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    Does anyone know a good site to use to browse money leagues with openings? I’m looking for a particular league format so it would be nice if there was a site where the managers put in all their settings then the user can filter from there. So far, the ones I’ve found are:

    Rotoworld forums
    Yahoo’s fantasy baseball “join a league”
    ESPN’s “join a league”

    Specifically, I’d like to join a roto ESPN auction league with weekly lineups if anyone in these parts has one.

    • Eli Man Penguin Boy says:
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      @SwaggerJackers: fantrax/dobber hockey (they have all types in the classified section, but google dobber hockey), rotowire.

  37. Strolg says:
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    Damn, I got done reading the rankings and then googled just-the-tip non-choking blow jobs and wound up right back here!

    • Grey

      Grey says:
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      I’d hope so!

  38. Cram It says:
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    Love me some Nola. His first two months were fantastic. I know he got hurt towards the end of the year and I’m not sure if it coincided with the sharp decline the next two months, but him being on the Phils, paired with people looking at his final numbers come draft time, I’m banking on no one paying attention to him.

    • Grey

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      Agreed, his peripherals are gorge… Great Ks and hardly any BBs

  39. Big W says:
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    Hey Grey,

    Appreciate your great work this offseason…and all year round for that matter!

    Draft strategy question… Keeper league yahoo 6×6 with OPS and K/BB. Keep 12 and draft 13. I’m keeping 4 SP and no closers. SPs are Kershaw, Salazar, T. Walker and A. Reyes.

    I have a 1st round pick, 2nd round pick and then no picks until 5th round (have 3 picks in the 5th).

    On offence I need to draft one utility and a catcher. So for my 1st round pick I’m getting the best bat available for utility. Then the decision get’s a little tough.

    Do I go for a 5th starter with my 2nd round pick or should i go with a closer in that spot. Take into consideration that I will not have another pick until the 5th round. I’m leaning grabbing my 1st closer.

    What do you think?

    • Grey

      Grey says:
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      Thanks! 1st closer, for sure

  40. peacecoast says:
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    Grey,

    ok my keepers are almost done. I am down to my last choice. 2 catcher league. I can take Gattis in round 23 or VV in 27. Gattis right? He will somehow get enuf at bats? I can probably just draft VV and still get value right?

    • Grey

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      VV

  41. Dr. Kenneth Noisewater says:
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    So Ben & Jerry give the best blowjobs, right?

    • Grey

      Grey says:
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      Did you Google that too?

      • Dr. Kenneth Noisewater says:
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        @Grey: Google? Ohhhh, ummm….yeah, yeah it was Google that did that.

        So the girl wants to start Santa Clarita Diet tonight.

        • Grey

          Grey says:
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          I wish we lived closer, Cougs and your girl could watch it together… I have no interest

          • Dr. Kenneth Noisewater says:
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            @Grey: Haha exactly. Maybe Timmy O brings the house down? She’s so excited for it, so I’m acting interested too.

            • Grey

              Grey says:
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              I will say Cougs’ excitement lessened when she heard it was about zombies… I think she only really liked the idea of Timmy O and Drew Barrymore

              • Dr. Kenneth Noisewater says:
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                @Grey: Yeah my girl isn’t a zombie fan, she likes iZombie…good god. She just says it looks good. We will see. Saving money before vacation so I’ll be home watching it tonight.

                • Grey

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                  Haha… Sadly, I think Cougs is just a fan of Timmy O and Drew Barrymore. Good god to that

    • Cram It says:
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      @Dr. Kenneth Noisewater: Haha. If you put some on your tip, you should get the best bj!

      • Dr. Kenneth Noisewater says:
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        @Cram It: Haha. Shooting caramel everywhere!

      • The Great Knoche says:
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        @Cram It: Still just need ranch dressing in the Midwest.

      • Dr. Kenneth Noisewater says:
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        @Cram It: And as unique as the comments have been today, my favorite post is you mocking Grey for vanilla ice cream. HA! Go crazy and wash that down with a nice glass of room temperature tap water.

        • Grey

          Grey says:
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          Don’t be jealous b/c I can drink tap water!

            • Grey

              Grey says:
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              Haha… Aw, c’mon guys!

              • Dr. Kenneth Noisewater says:
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                @Grey: Today I honestly texted, “It’s as Ann as the nose on Plain’s face.”

                • Grey

                  Grey says:
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                  That’s fummy!

  42. Big Magoo

    Big Magoo says:
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    I’m just catching up with some of your offseason rankings, and I must say that was quite the swerve you threw in there in yesterday’s post. A DND tier from 5-8? That reminds me of when Drew Barrymore did all of that press to promote Scream before getting killed off in the first few minutes.

    How’s the offseason treating you?

    • Grey

      Grey says:
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      Like a ballet teacher once told me, you have to keep people on their toes… My offseason is kinda bomb… How about you, Mags?

      • Big Magoo

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        @Grey: Or, as Frank Drebin once said, “Like a midget at a urinal, I was going to have to stay on my toes.” Sage advice.

        I’ve been pretty good. Working some crazy hours at this new job that I got a couple of months ago, but I can’t really complain. Just cuts into my fantasy prep a bit. And of course it means that I don’t have time to write anymore.

        Most of these rankings are in tune with mine except for the Mets trio (Syndergaard, deGrom, and Matz – I like them more) and Fulmer (#23 for me). You’re way higher on Salazar and everyone in the Gausman tier except for Nola. Don’t you like Robbie Ray? He’s basically the NL version of Pineda. I’m guessing he’ll make an appearance in the Velasquez tier.

        I’m definitely with you on the Sanchez tier though. I might not own any of those guys this year.

        You doing the usual perts leagues?

        • Grey

          Grey says:
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          Haha…. Ray is in the Velasquez tier… I like Fulmer, also in that tier… I can’t believe you’re actually considering deGrom and Matz after last year and their arm troubles… Asking for trouble for no reason, eye em oh…. Yeah, I’m doing the usual leagues…Headed to NY for Tout Wars end of March, trying to correct all of last year’s mistakes

          • Big Magoo

            Big Magoo says:
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            @Grey: deGrom’s surgery was just to clean up scar tissue that was compressing his ulnar nerve. No ligament or structural issues. I’ll happily take any discount on him.

            Syndergaard basically had the same bone spur issue that Lester’s been pitching through for years. Hasn’t affected his performance at all. Stuff is nasty.

            Will have to keep an eye on Matz (and Harvey for that matter) in spring training, but he’s interesting at the right price. I’d be more concerned about someone like Salazar from a health standpoint, tbh. Nola too, but he’s going pretty late. Probably roll the dice on him a couple of times.

            Didn’t have a good year in Tout? Hope you have better luck this season!

            • Grey

              Grey says:
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              Agreed on Syndergaard, I don’t like SPs early, but I’m not concerned about him nearly as much as deGrom and Matz. I don’t think deGrom’s in serious danger of being Harvey last year, but he could be behind his timetable by only a month and not be looking up to the task until June, which is an issue… Matz is a mess, and has had injury problems for his whole career… Don’t see him as Salazar at all… re: Tout — My highest pick was Dee Gordon, who I didn’t even want but got stuck with, and we know how he turned out

              • Big Magoo

                Big Magoo says:
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                @Grey: I don’t see deGrom as very risky, but I usually try to diversify the SP1/2 shares as much as possible anyway. I’ll look to grab him in at least one league as an SP2 though.

                Matz is more of an SP3/4, so roster construction is more of a consideration for him. I’m a bit cautious but more on the optimistic side. He’s kind of a wait-and-see.

                Ouch on Gordon. That’s more bad luck than anything because of the suspension though. He’s not exactly the poster boy for PEDs. I think the speed only guys and pure donkeys are somewhat devalued in this environment. Definitely moving those types of players down my board.

                • Grey

                  Grey says:
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                  Ironically or not ironically I think Gordon might be really undervalued this year

                  • Big Magoo

                    Big Magoo says:
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                    @Grey: It depends what you consider undervalued to be. At the moment, Gordon’s being drafted ahead of JD Martinez, Braun, Desmond, Kyle Seager, Carrasco, etc. in NFBC leagues. That’s too pricey for me.

                    • Grey

                      Grey says:
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                      That’s too early, I thought he was going later, like where I have him at around 100 overall… Sounds like I’m not going to get him

        • Big Odio says:
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          @Big Magoo: The Mighty Magoo returns! Good to see a friendly face around these parts. The IQ in the room just got higher

          • Big Magoo

            Big Magoo says:
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            @Big Odio: That last part is certainly debatable

            • Big Odio says:
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              @Big Magoo: I prefer alternative facts these days

              • Big Magoo

                Big Magoo says:
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                @Big Odio: You should move to DC then

                • Big Odio says:
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                  @Big Magoo: thats too alternative of a reality for me. I heard they drained the swap and replaced it with the stuff

  43. Packers says:
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    I inherited a team in 12 team roto dynasty weekly league. One team is loaded, so for me to compete I feel I have to cash in Kershaw. It’s a two catcher league also.
    One team has quite a few strong pitchers and I’m thinking of offering a trade.
    My Kershaw and Pomeranz.
    His Duffy, Hendricks,Quintana and Conteras.
    Is it close? Quintana would be taking Gsellman’s spot.

    • Grey

      Grey says:
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      Hold

  44. ERad says:
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    I know I’m married when I get the Tim Gunn reference in the Hamels blurb

    • Grey

      Grey says:
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      HA

  45. Clogged Rosterman says:
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    Nobody else is going to comment on his wonderful half and half joke? It’s so inspired.

    Kind of surprised Nova didn’t sneak in by now. I thought you guys sounded really positive on him a podcast or two ago, but maybe that was Ralp & Halph.

    • Grey

      Grey says:
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      Thanks! I like Nova, but he’s got some issues

    • Grey

      Grey says:
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      It was JB and I talking Nova, btw

      • Clogged Rosterman says:
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        @Grey:

        Yeah, I was pretty sure it was you guys. Thanks!

        Now, if I may, I’m gonna go back to not being nearly subtle about wanting to trade Tanner Roark in my dynasty league.

        • Grey

          Grey says:
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          Haha, get rid of him!

  46. Duda Want to Build a Snowman? says:
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    Hey Grey – I’m trying to hone down my “trade target” list for guys that I would want to give up my $18 Darvish for in a keep 7 forever w/ $3 inflation? Darvish is my only SP keeper.

    Is there anyone on the below hitter/pitcher lists who you would NOT trade your Darvish to acquire? Thanks!

    HITTER TARGETS
    $6 Myers
    $15 Bregman
    $12 Hanley
    $21 Stanton
    $10 Schwaber
    $3 Carlos Santana
    $13 Rendon
    $19 Frazier (!)
    $26 Cano

    PITCHER TARGETS
    $9 Duffy
    $5 Rich Hill
    $4 Urias
    $3 Reyes

    • Grey

      Grey says:
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      Hill. Urias, Rendon, Cano

      • Duda Want to Build a Snowman? says:
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        @Grey: My Todd Frazier obsession thanks you for not including him on the “no” list!

        Would I be right to assume that you’d want any of those “yes” bats (including $19 Frazier and $15 Bregman) over the $9 Duffy or $3 Reyes?

        Thanks again!

        • Grey

          Grey says:
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          About even

          • Duda Want to Build a Snowman? says:
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            @Grey: Cool, I’ll target the top guys first and go from there. Pretty confident I can get any of Frazier, Bregman, or Duffy for the $18 Yu at the very least.

  47. Big W says:
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    I would trade Darvish for any player in Grey’s top 20 overall… you could probably get a combination though… like darvish for Dahl and JD Martinez. Or Darvish for Freemand and Dahl…

    Now if Darvish is indeed the only SP you are keeping, then you’d probably want to not trade him.

    • Duda Want to Build a Snowman? says:
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      @Big W: Thanks – it’s only a keep 7, so SPs around 15 and up won’t be kept unless at great prices. Weekly league with 7 SP spots, so a bit of weight placed on two-starters.

      Funny you say Dahl and JD. Just got Dahl ($10) for Franco ($11) a few weeks ago . . . tried getting JD in a Kershaw trade but opted for a $9 Desmond and this Yu instead.

  48. Slimbo says:
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    Hey man dyno league question

    Looking to move marte, Addy russell,franco, jp Crawford, rodgers or gallo for a young pitcher and hitter..

    See anything I could offer for alex reyes, taillon, trea turner or bregman

    • Grey

      Grey says:
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      Marte and Russell (or Franco) for Taillon and Turner?

  49. Duda Want to Build a Snowman? says:
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    In a keep forever, assuming Moncada is starting in AAA, would you blow your $3 Moncada trade chip on (a) $10 odor, (b) $18 freeman, (c) $10 JD mart, (d) $6 correa (that would be pairing Moncada with an pretty well priced ace), or (e) $20 Machado (also pairing moncada with an ace)?

    I’m looking to make a hard title run this year, so I’m wondering if one of my 7 keepers should be a minor leaguer (albeit with about the highest hype a prospect could get).

    Thanks.

    • Grey

      Grey says:
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      For sure

      • Duda Want to Build a Snowman? says:
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        @Grey: Thanks. Tough to say goodbye to a top prospect, but then again, look a Buxton.

        • Grey

          Grey says:
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          Yeah, agreed

  50. Ken L says:
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    No Fulmer in the top 40? What am I missing? Thx.

    • Grey

      Grey says:
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      He’ll be in the next 20

  51. Another Dan says:
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    Another great column Grey!!

    Sorry to revisit this one.

    Still trading Thor in 12 team H2H Dynasty.

    Offer A) Darvish, Miller for Thor
    Offer B) Bogaerts/Salazar for Thor/Britton
    Offer C)

    Dan

    • Grey

      Grey says:
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      Andrew Miller? B sounds decent

      • Another Dan says:
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        @Grey:

        Sorry, A was Brad Miller

  52. Jason says:
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    Hey Grey,

    I just mocked for my 10 team 5×5 H2H no keepers. 21 roster spots. Please critique!

    C- MURPHY
    1B- DESMOND
    2B- ODOR
    3B- ARENADO
    SS- CORREA
    OF- SPRINGER
    OF- CESPEDES
    OF- TRUMBO
    UT- RENDON
    BN- MAZARA

    SP- CARRASCO
    SP- QUINTANA
    RP- HERRERA
    RP- IGLESIAS
    P- LACKEY
    P- HILL
    P- NOLA
    BN- (RP ) KELLY
    BN- MCCULLERS
    BN- GRAY
    BN- PINEDA

    • Grey

      Grey says:
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      Pitching looks great, real nice… Hitting looks excellent too, solid team!

      • Jason says:
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        @Grey:

        Thanks! The only thing I’m second guessing is taking a second bench and getting Brad miller, he’ll be 1b 2b ss eligible in yahoo and ill have mazara for of and Rendon for 3b as backups. Convince me one way or the other I’m torn!

        Also anxiously waiting for closer rankings to clean that up too. I think you’ll post those… Thursday? Cheers!

    • Grey

      Grey says:
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      Haha… Yu

  53. goodfold2 says:
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    30 teamer, week 2 bids due soon. now with this dance this mess around
    C d’arnaud .4 mil
    CI beltre 10.5
    – mostsuckass 13.403 mil per year 2 year deal(one of the best metric research guides ESP without Rudy’s as of yet, shandler’s forecaster loves this guy’s skill set this year)
    MI segura 2.6
    OF desmond 16.301 per for 2 years (gambled on low end of range of what i thought it took and barely won)
    -altherr .4
    -e.rosario .4
    util drury .4 (also could be 2nd MI or CI or OF)
    BN coghlan (CI/MI/OF) 3.201 1 year (his skills 2nd half last year were awesome, forecaster loves him if he gets playing time got signed yesterday)
    BN revere 4.002 mil 1 year(same thing, his skills last year were fine, and he’s by far best speed guy i could afford, albeit i spent more than i needed to, same on coghlan)

    SP sale 12 mil
    – quintana 13 mil per 2 years
    – davies .4
    – rey lopez .4
    – urena .4
    didn’t show the length on the .4 guys (pretty much all of them but d’arnaud on a 2017 are more than 2 years long though)
    optimally want 1 or max 2 more SP guys, even if bad ones
    RP (6 wanted)
    -m.cab (ATL) .4
    – n.jones 5.348 per for 2 years
    – gregerson 5.2 per for 2 years (book loves his skill set has him as the 12th best RP for this year getting less than 10 saves, XGB and high SWK rates, good closers go for about > than 9 mil)
    -ynoa (WSOX) .4 rookie contract could drop

    all in if i leave myself with .8 mil (enough money to roster 2 guys if/when 2 of my guys go on DL, all FA are league min additions with 2017 only contracts) i’ll have 19.47 mil for last 7 roster spots of
    1 MI (unless i put drury there), 2 RP (or 3 if i drop ynoa), 1 or 2 SP, 1 OF (due to all of altherr/coghlan/revere and likely rosario being BN guys at first) and 1 or 2 BN hitters.

    that being the case should i stick to ye old 62/38 %’s of roster for hitting/pitching, which means 3.018-4.024 per hitting spot left (3-4 total) and 1.85-2.47 per pitching spot left (3-4 total) or vary from that somewhere?

    • Grey

      Grey says:
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      Sounds about right

  54. The Lurve Guru says:
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    Grey/Everyone

    Surprised to see Nola on this part of the list due to his injury. Seems like everyone else I’ve read is terrified of his elbow exploding. Any other thoughts/news on this guy’s health?

    • Grey

      Grey says:
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      He says he’s 100%, we’ll see

  55. nick the dick says:
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    Don’t front, you were shook Shirley was gonna go home last night. And don’t act like that chicken waffle shouldn’t have won the last challenge

    • Grey

      Grey says:
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      I know, right?! Last night actually convinced me Sheldon is going to win the whole thing and Shirley’s coming in 2nd… I’m still pulling for her, but how does cheeseburger dumplings beat that chicken? Everyone talked better about the chicken and it looked so much better, and I like dumplings…. Plus, that whole “I took seasick medicine and am woozy” nonsense… What, she Jordan in that playoff game where he’s sick now?

      • nick the dick says:
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        @Grey: Haha Grey pulling out a b-ball reference! Yeah, Shirley your meat was a little dry and Sheldon’s dish was awesome and perfect and creative, but you win. Eff outta here…It is exciting how it really is gonna come down to both our picks, we’re such good pickers!

        • Grey

          Grey says:
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          We have the best picks! Also you know Hait’s coming back too

      • nick the dick says:
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        @Grey: Brooke really disappointed me, she’s been solid. Yogurt blobs?!

        • Grey

          Grey says:
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          Parfait?! That’s a cool stripper name, should not be a dish on TC

          • nick the dick says:
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            @Grey: Up next on the stage, Parfait! HA! Big Hait is definitely winning last chance kitchen, gonna be one slammin’ showdown at the end….as long as Shirley stops getting seasick all over her plate. Dem shrimp looked like roadkill.

            • Grey

              Grey says:
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              Dem shrimp looked like they came out of the gulf right after BP went through

              • Big Odio says:
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                @Grey: did he cook it in squid ink?

                • Grey

                  Grey says:
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                  She* looked like she did

  56. TheMuppetManiac says:
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    I took over a team in my friend’s keeper league. Not sure who I should keep. We keep the players in the rounds they were drafted the previous year and it sucks that all the guys I am thinking of keeping are all high picks.

    It’s a 12 team H2H. The cats are: R-HR-RBI-SB-AVE-OPS-SV-HLD-ERA-WHIP-K/9-QS.
    So it’s an odd mix of categories. We can keep five.

    Mike Trout – Round 1
    Sterling Marte – Round 2
    Jake Arrieta -Round 3
    Kyle Schwarber – Round 4
    Noah Syndergaard – Round 5
    Freddie Freeman – Round 6
    Wade David – Round 7
    Adrian Beltre – Round 9
    Hanley Ramirez – Round 10

    These are the only guys worth keeping.

    I was thinking of keeping Trout, Freeman, Syndergaard and Arrieta (I could keep him to trade to someone.) I don’t know if I should keep Schwarber (who does have catcher eligibility) or go with Davis. I wouldn’t usually keep a closer, but in this league, he would probably be more valuable.

    I would try to move Arrieta after the draft. I think I need to keep him for now, because with so many of my high picks being used, it would be hard to get another big arm. And I would use my second pick on a hitter.

    • Grey

      Grey says:
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      Trout, Freeman, Syndergaard, Marte, Arrieta, and trade Arrieta

  57. Amolnar says:
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    You’re not worried at all with Nola’s elbow? I traded Kemp for him last year right before he got injured. Cost me the league because my hitting fell apart slash got hurt an played every other day and I really needed Kemp.

    Anyway, I have Nola and I can keep him for $8 up to 5 years with an additional $5 added to his contract for each additional year I keep him. Any thoughts on that? Or just send him back into the auction.

    *We get $280 for the auction which includes keepers and auction and we are allowed to keep up to 15 guys and most teams have 10 or more guys on contract.

    Thanks!

    • Grey

      Grey says:
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      He says he’s at 100%, I’m worried but $8 is a solid price

      • Amolnar says:
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        @Grey:

        Would you extend that contract out at all? Next year he would be $13 and a following year he would be $18. I could also construct the contract to be flat so 3 years I could sign him for $13/year for 3 years. Thoughts? I don’t really want to go more than 3 years for a pitcher.

        • Grey

          Grey says:
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          @Amolnar: No, I wouldn’t extend it out

  58. What's a Drexl? says:
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    keep 4 or 5 of these (show the 5th last in case). 16 team roto with these stats added: hits, total bases, OBP over AVG, slugging, OPS, steals % for hitters, holds, K/BB, K/9 (would put K% a more accurate stat, but it’s yahoo, can’t), QS, net saves and holds. start one of each position, with a CI, a MI, 3 specific OF spots, a 4th any OF, 3 utils, 5 SP, 5 RP, 1 P, 3 BN, 3 DL, 2 NA. 1800 max innings, so usually 2 BN spots for SP (7 total, including one of them for streaming often)
    keeper options:
    mookie (2)
    villar (26)
    bregman (28)
    contreras (28)
    ceager (4)
    franco (6)
    k.davis (12)
    schoop (15)
    grichuk (9)
    pujols (6)
    kang (11)
    castellanos (17)
    belt (9)
    price (2)
    aj ramos (9)
    ottavino (28)
    kennedy (16)
    kintzler (28)
    allen (7)
    kelley (28)
    from year to year we use the previous year’s ADP prices (from fantasy pros, average across multiple sites) for keeper values.

    obv villar/mookie/bregman are gimmes, what about the last 2?

    • What's a Drexl? says:
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      @What’s a Drexl?: if a round is doubled it would move to a better round, except if it’s 2 28th (last) rounders, then it would go to the 27th.

    • Grey

      Grey says:
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      Seager (not sure how he’s a 4 though), K. Davis

      • What's a Drexl? says:
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        @Grey: adp last year was 64th, i.e. the last pick in the 4th round of a 16 team league.

  59. Oppo Taco says:
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    Was Offered Buxton for Gerrit Cole in my keeper league. thoughts? 5×5 12 team roto in which we keep 8 players at no cost. My Keepers so far :

    Rizzo, Goldy, Corey Seager, McCutchen, Justin Upton, Bumgarner, Cole and one of (Moancada, Bautista, Lamb, Longoria)

    • Grey

      Grey says:
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      I’d take Buxton

  60. The Guy says:
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    Should I trade Xander for Kluber in a keep forever, 14 team, 14-keeper, 26-man roster OBP, QS added Dynasty/keeper?

    Keepers as of now:
    Lucroy
    Goldschmidt
    Carpenter
    Bogaerts
    C Seager
    Donaldson
    Harper
    Stanton
    Mazara
    Beltre
    Moncada

    Scherzer
    Carrasco
    Porcello

    • The Guy says:
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      @The Guy: or can I “do better”

    • Grey

      Grey says:
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      Hold

  61. +ddisonFan says:
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    Hey Grey,

    Need your advice. In a keep forever league where you can keep 8 bats/4 P

    I have right now: Gattis/Edwin/Altuve/no SS/Donaldson/Cruz/Jose Ramirez/Jake Lamb/Ian Desmond
    P : Kershaw/Max/Matz/McCullers/Rich Hill/Paxton/Jon Gray

    Would you trade Kershaw to try and get say Corey Seager and hopefully an OF with upside like Benintendi?

    Thank you!

    • Grey

      Grey says:
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      Sounds decent

  62. Random Collmenter says:
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    Overpaid for Goldy in a dynasty league last year and looking to unload him.

    Was offered Brinson ($1), Maeda ($11) and Gausman ($1) for Goldy ($56). You like?

    6×6 roto league with OPS and QS. Here’s the rest of my keepers:

    C: Grandal (3)
    1B: Goldy (56)
    2B: Odor ($15)
    3B: Arenado ($32)
    SS: Correa ($23)
    OF: Braun ($29)
    OF: Billy Hamilton ($12)
    OF: Kepler ($3)
    OF: Yasmany ($3)
    U: Josh Bell (1), Clint Frazier (1), Dominic Smith (1)

    SPs: deGrom (16), Verlander (15), Fulmer (3), Bundy (3), Pomeranz (3), Cobb (3), Robbie Ray (3)
    RPs: Aroldis (19), Andrew Miller (3), Raisel (3)

    Any thoughts about the trade and who I should or shouldn’t keep would be appreciated! Thanks Grey!

    • Grey

      Grey says:
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      Trade sounds decent

    • Grey

      Grey says:
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      Of course no idea how much you have to spend, how many keepers you keep or how many teams in your league

  63. Random Collmenter says:
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    Haha sorry.

    $260 budget, unlimited keepers, 12 teams…

    I’m thinking you’re gonna tell me to unload Aroldis…

  64. Random Collmenter says:
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    Also, just curious why you think Javy Baez will only have 450 or so ABs this year? Who else is threatening to take away his playing time? I was thinking he might get 600 ABs after becoming a star in the playoffs…

  65. Random Collmenter says:
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    Who you like better long term- Gausman or DeLeon?

    • Grey

      Grey says:
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      Gausman

  66. nick the dick says:
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    You see the movie Kicks?

    • Grey

      Grey says:
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      Hells yeah, shizz was bomb

      • nick the dick says:
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        @Grey: dude I was at the Redbox the other day and there was seemingly nothing at all to rent, but I be pulling out some gems that I haven’t even heard of. I thought it was great. The hip-hop quotes!

        • Grey

          Grey says:
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          I thought it was on NetFlix… Hmm… Yeah, it reminds me of a movie you’d see when you were a kid

  67. Nightpandas says:
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    Happy Super Bowl day,

    Would you move Correa Crush for Donaldson Desmond Andrus in a forever keeper ?

    • Grey

      Grey says:
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      Sounds solid

  68. henncoop says:
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    I am in a dynasty league where we keep 25 keepers each year. My problem is I will need to cut some players via trades in order to not lose good players when I decide my 25 keepers.
    Does the offer of my Kipnis, K Hendricks ; & SP prospects Weaver (StL) & R Lopez (CWS) & toss in OF Altherr (if it matters or he wants him)
    for
    his Odor, McCullers, & K Broxton sound fair?

    • Grey

      Grey says:
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      I’d do it

  69. Duda Want to Build a Snowman? says:
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    Hey Grey! Jake DeGrom unenthused-ness aside, if you could have DeGrom for less than Yu, would -er- yu?

    Specifically, looking at a $12 Degrom or $18 Yu. Thanks!

    • Grey

      Grey says:
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      Meh

  70. Nightpandas says:
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    Hey Grey, keep forever

    Which side

    Rizzo Dozier Matz Dahl

    Posey D Gordon Salazar Abreu

    • Grey

      Grey says:
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      Rizzo

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