I’ve seen some ‘smarter’ players drafting Michael Pineda way too high.  Like in the top 110 overall.  I don’t care that he had the third highest xFIP last year and the 8th best xFIP in 2015.  I mean, I do care about it, that’s why I’m highlighting him, but I don’t care top 110 overall care.  I’m operating a little without a safety net with the sleepers by not having a strong idea of where guys will be drafted.  I’m merely guessing where guys will be drafted, and I’d bet Pineda will go undrafted in a lot of shallower mixed leagues or after 200 overall in most other leagues.  At that price, he’s a sleeper and I’m interested in his xFIP.  For noobs, xFIP is essentially ERA while removing defense, luck, sequencing and normalizes for homers.  All of those should be self-explanatory except for maybe sequencing.  That means a guy that gives up a single, gets two outs, allows a home run and gets the third out is the same as a pitcher that gives up a home run, a single and then gets three outs, even though the 1st pitcher gave up two runs and the 2nd pitcher gave up one run with the exact same hitter results — a single, a home run and three outs, just in a different order.  All things being equal, a pitcher should be his xFIP self.  It doesn’t work like that for various reasons, but it’s a baseline.  Not quite the same as Humpty Hump’s bass line.  That’s dooooree-doooorit-dooooree-doooorit.  Ricky Nolasco made a career out of frustrating fantasy owners by never returning ERA bottles for his xFIP deposits.  Honestly, if it was just xFIP for Pineda, I wouldn’t even be writing this post, but it’s not, and with that…So, what can we expect from Michael Pineda for 2017 fantasy baseball and what makes him a sleeper?

He has sub-3.00 ERA stuff in a tough division.  I don’t throw that around willy nor nilly.  I like him better than AL Cy Young winner, Rick Porcello.  Pineda’s average fastball velocity was 92.8 MPH in 2015, last year it was 94.1 MPH.  I love that.  Doode’s upping his velocity and it was already smoke.  He had the 5th best swinging strike rate with 14.1%.  Just above him was the best in the majors:  Kershaw, Scherzer, Syndergaard and Jo-Fer (RIP).  Syndergaard and Jo-Fer were only barely better with a 14.2%.  This means 14.1% of strikes that Pineda threw were swung at and missed.  The best in the majors Scherzer and Kershaw were tied at 15.3%.  Can you think of a better stat of dominance?  A guy is throwing strikes and the hitter swings and misses 14% of the time.  That’s crazy.  Who do you think is also nasty?  Chris Sale?  He was only at 11.3%.  Carrasco and Kluber were down at 12%.  Pedro Martinez had a 2.23 ERA in 2003 and only had a 14.1%.  Okay, point made.  Last year, Pineda threw a 2.7 BB/9.  Not great.  Not death, but he’s been better.  In 2015, he had a 1.2 BB/9.  If he approaches that again with his newfound 10.6 K/9, Pineda will have a 2.50-ish ERA.  His control wasn’t great.  His Hard Contact Rate had issues too.  Something wasn’t computing.  He was throwing pitches that no one could touch, then, on other occasions, he was allowing some of the hardest contact in the majors.  I’m going to guess this had more to do with game plans and immaturity than his stuff.   Also, due to his xFIP, this won’t surprise anyone, Pineda was crazy unlucky with homers and BABIP.  If you give up hard contact, a BABIP is going to be a problem.  Difficult to get around that, but his Ks and contact rates show he shouldn’t give up that hard contact.  He’s 27 years old and needs to throw less and pitch more.  He doesn’t come without risk, but he could be a top 15 pitcher in all fantasy with very little adjustment.  For 2017, I’ll give him the projections of 12-7/3.46/1.16/214 in 195 IP with huge upside from there.

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Ned Shakeshaft
Ned Shakeshaft
5 years ago

I watched (or listened to) most of his starts and my unscientific conclusion is that he sometimes left breaking stuff hanging over the plate or grooved fastballs, and when he did, kaboom.

This doesn’t seem uncommon, or unfixable, for a young guy who has had to work his way through several arm injuries. Love him for where we should be able to get him.

Uncle Ed
Uncle Ed
5 years ago

Grey,

We miss your podcasts. Winter is shitty cold in the Midwest and we need your humor. Giddy up, biotch.

Cheers,
Uncle Ed

swaggerjackers
swaggerjackers
5 years ago

@Grey: Hello friend! Would love to hear your opinion on my keeper options:

12 Team H2H Category
OBP instead of AVG, SVHD instead of SV
Keepers can be kept indefinitely with no penalty. Please pick 3:

Goldy
Sale
Springer
Stanton
Story

swaggerjackers
swaggerjackers
Reply to  swaggerjackers
5 years ago

@swaggerjackers: I guess I should throw Synder in there as well. He seems to have the edge in the K department over Sale these days.

Billy Bob
Billy Bob
5 years ago

First of all, you have the best fantasy baseball site out….period….
Question – Is Bregman someone you can build a team around? Do you see him as a high ceiling player?

Sinkhole Demayo
Sinkhole Demayo
Reply to  Billy Bob
5 years ago

@Billy Bob: young r-zimm was quite good.

Big Odio
Big Odio
5 years ago

I think this @daveweigel guy on twitter stole your likeness

Big Odio
Big Odio
Reply to  Grey
5 years ago

@Grey: my t shirt was offended

Big Odio
Big Odio
Reply to  Grey
5 years ago

@Grey: I was thinking of selling mine on e-bay. There will be a $100 buy now option

Big Odio
Big Odio
Reply to  Grey
5 years ago

@Grey: speaking of those shirts, have you heard from Teddy Heater this off season?

The Curly W's
The Curly W's
5 years ago

“We should have a glossary term for Grey darlings who broke out as you expected”

Greyvy

jack florida
jack florida
5 years ago

Grey, thanks again , one more if you don’t mind , another tough one for me

al only, 10 teams, keep forever, 5 keepers

price, kluber,pujols, lindor, mazara,benintendi,odor, correa

Test Kitchen
Test Kitchen
5 years ago

Grey,

Braun over Cesp, right?

Thanks

jack florida
jack florida
5 years ago

16 TEAM KEEPER, keep 10 players
standard categories, also 162 starts for pitchers
having a hard time picking 10, need your advice, thanks for the help
pujols, segura, j d martinez, lindor, k seager, greg polanco, osuna, duvall ,stanton, h perez, benintendi, healy, k broxton, carlos martinez, syndergaard, darvish, g cole, taillon

jack florida
jack florida
Reply to  Grey
5 years ago

@Grey: thanks, i had a tough time picking 10

Duda Want to Build a Snowman?
Duda Want to Build a Snowman?
5 years ago

Fast-forward to spring training, Michael Brantley is playing regularly and has no set backs or issues whatsoever. If he still goes cheap (under $10), does he beat out guys like Khris, Ozuna?

Duda Want to Build a Snowman?
Duda Want to Build a Snowman?
Reply to  Grey
5 years ago

@Grey: We should have a glossary term for Grey darlings who broke out as you expected, then fell from grace or became incredibly overrated.

. . . Grey Gardens?

Duda Want to Build a Snowman?
Duda Want to Build a Snowman?
Reply to  Grey
5 years ago

@Grey: Like that movie/documentary about people in upper class society who had these amazing earlier lives but are now living in squalor.

Duda Want to Build a Snowman?
Duda Want to Build a Snowman?
Reply to  Grey
5 years ago

@Grey: Todd!

Get this – that f-ing Todd trade fell through! I don’t even own him anywhere.

Scott Kimmel
Scott Kimmel
5 years ago

Grey,

I have a chance to get Dellin Betances, but the guy is asking for one of the following:

Maeda
Bird
J.P. Crawford
Jose Ramirez

Which would you move to get him?

Geoff
5 years ago

What’s your view of Gsellman?

We discussed him in detail on the last podcast, and I’m going to have a few words about him when the Mets review comes out on Wednesday. Wondering what the FML thought.

Another Dan
Another Dan
Reply to  Geoff
5 years ago

@Ralph Lifshitz:

He’s intriguing. Available in my dynasty, can draft in in my first year player draft and/or Rudy and try to add him to my MLB roster when yahoo opens.

My main question is was there a change in approach at MLB level which resulted in 8.5K/9 when his MiLB rate in 2016 was 6.9K/9 ? Or is it small sample size ?

Excellent read again Grey, may have to try and trade for Pineda. See what someone wants for him.

Another Dan

Geoff
Ralph Lifshitz
Reply to  Another Dan
5 years ago

@Another Dan: That I can’t say for sure. But most of the scouting reports I’ve read credit an up tick in his secondary stuff. The fastball is nasty. For me, I love that he works low in the zone gets tons of groundballs. He also throws a lot of first pick strikes, which helps everything play up.

Another Dan
Another Dan
Reply to  Ralph Lifshitz
5 years ago

@Ralph Lifshitz:

Thanks. I have some decisions to make regarding draft strategy. I have 2 picks in the next 12 (currently waiting for pick 10, I have 14 and 20).

Am thinking I might get one of Collins/Thaiss and then one of McKenzie/Gsell/Gonsalves/Fedde/Buehler (he related to Ferris?). The order is probably the order I would take them in.

Any advice?

Dan

Saints
Saints
5 years ago

Hay Grey I’m loving what you are doing :) Thanks for it.
But now I need your help I’m not a big baseball freak but I’m in a big dynasty Fantasy League (16 Players,30 Man Rosters,big minor league squad) and I’m trying to compete. I want you to take a look at my Rotation and help me to make a decision on a trade.
My Starting pitchers are (Ranked by my preference):
-Syndergaard (12$)
-Lester (15$)
-Martinez(15$)
-Darvish (8$)
-Lynn (8$)
-Gausmann (1$)
-Musgrove (0.5$)
-Phelps (1$)
-Devenski (1$)
-Graveman (1$)
-Fister (1$)
-Cotton (1$)

1st Of all what do you think about my pitchers ? And what do you think about my Ranking?
With 30 Man Teams i think i have a lot of guys. Someone offered me Jake Arrieta (23$) he wants to get a little bit more pitcher depth so he wants to get some Pitchers. What would be a trade you would like to go for it ?

Saints
Saints
Reply to  Saints
5 years ago

@Saints:
I should have mentioned that i have Kopech and Martes waiting in the Minors for the next years :)

Saints
Saints
Reply to  Grey
5 years ago

@Grey:
Yeah i like my pitching as well. You would give all these guys away for Arrieta ?
I was more thinking of giving away a trio of Phelps,Fister,Lynn for Arrieta what do you think about such a trade ? or would you try to hold lynn if possible ?

Saints
Saints
Reply to  Grey
5 years ago

@Grey:
Would you rather trade away Gausman or Lynn ? I’m not sure :D

Alan
Alan
5 years ago

Thank god you wrote this because I traded Grandal and Acuna for him in Dynasty and just hoping some day he will get closer to his perifs and skills. Hope you are on to something!

Take care

MB
MB
5 years ago

Hey Grey, I know rankings arent out yet but curious if you will downgrade Dahl (compared to guys like Polanco, Cutch and Upton) because he will be hitting low in the order or does Coors make up for that?

Take care

MB
MB
Reply to  Grey
5 years ago

@Grey: I figured Blackmon, Story or DJ, Cargo, Arenado have to be ahead of him and Desmond too. Hope not though.

Duda Want to Build a Snowman?
Duda Want to Build a Snowman?
Reply to  Grey
5 years ago

@Grey: Dahl hitting 7th is the epitome of how insane COL’s offense is.

Jason
Jason
5 years ago

Deep 12 team H2H keeper “keep forever” league.

I want to improve on my CI starting spot – currently starting Daniel Murphy (who I’d rather start at 2B over DGordon)

The cats are:
R H HR RBI BB K SB TB AVG OPS and IP K/9 K/BB W QS HRA WHIP ERA SV+HLD

I have an offer where I trade Cueto for Todd Frazier and Andrew Miller

At SP I have – Arrieta/Cueto/Lester/Verlander/Hamels/Hill/Cobb/Moore

Can my rotation stand to lose Cueto?
Which side would you want in a keeper?

Duda Want to Build a Snowman?
Duda Want to Build a Snowman?
5 years ago

In a keeper league (+$3 per year):

1. Which combo do you like? (a) $30 Kershaw and $6 Khris (b) $17 Donaldson + $6 Wil Myers, or (c) $12 Degrom and $10 JD Mart?

2. $10 Dahl or $7 Buxton or $3 Vmart?

Thanks!

Clint
Clint
5 years ago

In a 14 team h2h pts dynasty league, which 3 would you prefer of Pineda, Cobb, Shoemaker, Smyly, and/or Berrios then?

SwaggerJackers
SwaggerJackers
5 years ago

@Grey: For what it’s werth, ESPN’s latest rankings have Pineda at 243.

Dr. Kenneth Noisewater
Dr. Kenneth Noisewater
5 years ago

Hey, are you going to do rankings this year?

SwaggerJackers
SwaggerJackers
Reply to  Dr. Kenneth Noisewater
5 years ago

@Dr. Kenneth Noisewater: I like your style, Noise.

Dr. Kenneth Noisewater
Dr. Kenneth Noisewater
Reply to  Grey
5 years ago

@Grey: Haha, I only wore mine once for like 15 minutes so far. I probably have about 10 pairs I haven’t wore yet. I’m breaking out all of my bright and vibrant pairs during my vacation next month!

Dr. Kenneth Noisewater
Dr. Kenneth Noisewater
Reply to  Grey
5 years ago

@Grey: Disney World. The girlfriend loves it there, this will be her 9th time or something. I was there once in the 80’s, I don’t even remember it. I’m excited to have a full week off for a real vacation.

Dr. Kenneth Noisewater
Dr. Kenneth Noisewater
Reply to  Grey
5 years ago

@Grey: Haha….”You ain’t from round these parts, you look like that funny Jackie Chan lady”

We did already reserve our Japanese dinner in Epcot. Chef Morimoto has a place in Disney too.

Geoff
Reply to  Dr. Kenneth Noisewater
5 years ago

@Dr. Kenneth Noisewater: Yeah it’s at Disney Springs, it’s okay but overpriced. The Italian place at Disney Springs is worth it if you have an open dinner.

Dr. Kenneth Noisewater
Dr. Kenneth Noisewater
Reply to  Geoff
5 years ago

@Ralph Lifshitz: That Portobello place? I think I do have a free night when we first arrive. We did have a reservation for California Grill to go all out but we cancelled. We also didn’t see an Italian place in Epcot that looked amazing.

Geoff
Reply to  Dr. Kenneth Noisewater
5 years ago

@Dr. Kenneth Noisewater: No the best food in Epcot was the German Bier Garten. It was a blast, and the beers were good. Lots of sausage, can’t go wrong.

Geoff
Reply to  Dr. Kenneth Noisewater
5 years ago

@Grey: @Dr. Kenneth Noisewater: It’s all about Animal Kingdom, awesome rides and Tuskar House has got the mad flavors son!

Also go to the German Beer hall in Epcot, drink your face off. Unless you’re a recovering alkie……then don’t.

Dr. Kenneth Noisewater
Dr. Kenneth Noisewater
Reply to  Geoff
5 years ago

@Ralph Lifshitz: I’m staying at Animal Kingdom, we really only planned on going there for about a half a day. You are the second person to mention Tuskar House.

My girl was mad because all I want to do is sit at the resort and smoke a good cigar with a strong drink in my hand. I told her if she sits with me while I’m doing this she’s not allowed to talk.

Big Odio
Big Odio
Reply to  Dr. Kenneth Noisewater
5 years ago

@Dr. Kenneth Noisewater: you need to hire a vacation proxy to go do stuff with her while you chill poolside. Have the proxy record everything so when she wants to “remember that one time” you can literally go to the tape..well not tape anymore, but going to the hard drive doesn’t work

Geoff
Reply to  Big Odio
5 years ago

@Big Odio: I think that’s how marriages end….

Big Odio
Big Odio
Reply to  Geoff
5 years ago

@Ralph Lifshitz: only if she bones the proxy!

I was listening to a podcast and this guy pointed out that a man can be a heroin junky, lose the house, drive the kids around high as a kite, and do some jail time or he could be an abbussive domestic violence regular and the women stay but a guy gets a handy in Tokyo and the woman will blow the whole thing up

Geoff
Reply to  Big Odio
5 years ago

@Big Odio: That last comment reminds me of the board member and his wife in Tommy Boy, where she won’t forgive the whore he visited while at war.

Big Odio
Big Odio
Reply to  Geoff
5 years ago

@Ralph Lifshitz: hahahaha…nice pull! the bitter wife syndrome

Dr. Kenneth Noisewater
Dr. Kenneth Noisewater
Reply to  Big Odio
5 years ago

@Big Odio: Haha that’s awesome. Kind of like the Home Stengrapher skit from Chappelle’s Show.

Big Odio
Big Odio
Reply to  Dr. Kenneth Noisewater
5 years ago

@Dr. Kenneth Noisewater: I cant think of that, will have to look it up later, I know Ive seen all of them at least once

I don't want to brag but i have irritable bowel syndrome
I don't want to brag but i have irritable bowel syndrome
Reply to  Dr. Kenneth Noisewater
5 years ago

@Dr. Kenneth Noisewater: stupid dwarves always outing closeted folks.

I don't want to brag but i have irritable bowel syndrome
I don't want to brag but i have irritable bowel syndrome
Reply to  Big Odio
5 years ago

@Big Odio: oh yeah, a man who’s monogamous can still be thought of by a woman as “supportive” even if he’s the biggest sociopathic, dangerous mess in the world. he’d be a “project”.

that was i believe from the very first chappelle show episode.

Dr. Kenneth Noisewater
Dr. Kenneth Noisewater
Reply to  Grey
5 years ago

@Grey: I’m going to document the blatant racism.

Dr. Kenneth Noisewater
Dr. Kenneth Noisewater
Reply to  Grey
5 years ago

@Grey: My ticket to internet fame Grey! And I didn’t even have to take bong rips of salvia.

Dr. Kenneth Noisewater
Dr. Kenneth Noisewater
Reply to  Grey
5 years ago

@Grey: My material will be mad stale!

Geoff
Reply to  Dr. Kenneth Noisewater
5 years ago

@Dr. Kenneth Noisewater: Back in college I used to make people take bong rips of salvia and then would slam them into a wall to increase the buzz.

Long story short no one smoked salvia with me twice….

JoeT
JoeT
5 years ago

Grey,

A couple of opinions, please.

Moustakas or Castellanos.

And could you order these five : Lackey, Manaea, Paxton, Rodon, DeSclafani.

Thanks

Big Odio
Big Odio
5 years ago

If you buy into fangraphs pitch values his fastball was graded at negative 26.2 or -26.2 for short. On the other hand his slider was 17.5, good for 7th best in baseball. Now, who is ahead of him on that slider list with a huge negative fastball…Chris Archer. I was all in on Pineda last year. He has the stuff but like Archer he only has three pitches yet I can’t take my eyes off his upside. I don’t buy into the high babip always being bad. Thor is right next to him in babip but the killer is the dong service Pineda provides. 17% HR/FB (5th best among qualified pitchers ) where Thor is on the other end of the dong spectrum. All in all I like this post. The risk is evident but the reward could be a monster. A true sleeper. Let me buy you a daiquiri for your boldness. But only one, I’ve seen you after two.

Big Odio
Big Odio
Reply to  Grey
5 years ago

@Grey: nice conversation starter.You know I’m trying to be Monday Nice

Big Odio
Big Odio
Reply to  Grey
5 years ago

@Grey: like when we go out in public and you piss people off….I got your back bro. I’m

On an unrelated note I’ve been thinking of taking the baby, not a baby anymore and baby’s mama to parks bbq

Big Odio
Big Odio
Reply to  Grey
5 years ago

@Grey: thats hilarious, you are like the 10th person who has said that to me. Which makes you wonder how many people have gone to the bad one? What does this say about talking to your phone and it sending you to the wrong place? Can I add a 3rd question to this?

Big Odio
Big Odio
Reply to  Grey
5 years ago

@Grey: Now I want to try McDowell’s so I know.

That’s crazy. So its a BBQ joint, not a Korean BBQ joint

Big Odio
Big Odio
Reply to  Big Odio
5 years ago

HAHAHAHA…I love some Flip food! Best egg rolls on earth. That’s weird, I had Phillippino neighbors growing up and I loved going to their BBQ’s. Phillipino bakeries are the bomb

Big Odio
Big Odio
Reply to  Big Odio
5 years ago

@Big Odio: and why did I completely butcher the Filipino spelling. Park BBQ is the Flip version of the Italian spot by me run by red dot Indians. Yes, we have that and I cant even bring myself to look people in the eye who go there.

Juan
Juan
5 years ago

what kind of player should i get in a keeper league for Yoan Moncada?
I was offered Madbum in a deal.
I think it would be something like Cespedes Moncada 4 Madbum and average like player/borderline keeper.
Should i make this deal?

Duda Want to Build a Snowman?
Duda Want to Build a Snowman?
5 years ago

Given the current COL situation, and assuming that COL has no other major moves – is Tapia a guy you’d be drafting in 12 team mixed keepers (weekly lineups) over brinson, meadows, rogers, or other prospects? Hard to see how Tapia gets regular playing time absent injury or trade — and even then, COL would need to pick Tapia over moving Desmond to OF (and having someone else play 1b).

Also, have seen all the projection systems on Eric Thames?!?! I have no faith in him, but hard to argue against taking a $1 gamble when he’s projecting like a 2nd rounder.

Duda Want to Build a Snowman?
Duda Want to Build a Snowman?
Reply to  Grey
5 years ago

@Grey: True – should have phrased it as “who would you pick from that group (brinson/meadows/tapia/rogers) as your keeper reserve prospect guy to bet on, who may be playing regularly by June/July?”

If Tapia had a path to starting this year, I’d pick him up as a starting OF (not reserve), but with him in the 4th OF role most likely, I’m lumping him with the other rookie reserve round upside guys.

Duda Want to Build a Snowman?
Duda Want to Build a Snowman?
Reply to  Grey
5 years ago

@Grey: Thanks – yeah, hard to choose! Lots of exciting rookies this year.

Cram It
Cram It
5 years ago

You didn’t recognize me without my shirt off. I had to relinquish the picture of The Belt since I’m not going into the season as the reigning FCL champ.

Just please don’t do a sleeper post on Nathan Eovaldi

Cram It
Cram It
Reply to  Grey
5 years ago

@Grey: Let it be motivation to not let me win the perts league, because you’ll be reminded of it every day I post without me having to say it.

Cram It
Cram It
Reply to  Grey
5 years ago

@Grey: And I’m working on my contingency plan where Trout “accidentally” gets his leg broken.

Cram It
Cram It
Reply to  Grey
5 years ago

@Grey: Haha. I haven’t had the first pick in a draft since 1994. I wouldn’t worry about it.

Cram It
Cram It
Reply to  Grey
5 years ago

@Grey: Not if it’s me! I can’t rig the draft order!

Big Odio
Big Odio
Reply to  Grey
5 years ago

@Grey: I don’t think you are getting that I’m not playing in the RCL’s this year…at all.

Big Odio
Big Odio
Reply to  Big Odio
5 years ago

But I can still come in and make fun of people’s drafts and bad moves…I love publicly viewable leagues

Cram It
Cram It
Reply to  Cram It
5 years ago

@Cram It: There’s nothing more pain stakingly awful than editing pre-draft rankings. Please don’t make me do that.

Big Odio
Big Odio
Reply to  Cram It
5 years ago

@Cram It: I don’t care what anyone says about you. That was a classy move to swap out the pics. I was expecting the Pantera Vular Display of Power album cover as your avi, but we have time.

Cram It
Cram It
Reply to  Big Odio
5 years ago

@Big Odio: I know my place. There is time…hopefully Tool drops a new album this year.

PEDs3
PEDs3
5 years ago

The Pinata has a few things against him:
1. His Home park
2. Righties absolutely kill him with HRs when they make contact.
3. He’s bad with men on base. Couple that with his awful HR rate and home park and you’ve got a SH*t load of 3 run homers and a standard Pinata line of 5 IP 5ER 6Ks.

Chucky
Chucky
5 years ago

Could any of these get it done, 12T 6×6 OBP 8 keep forever no contracts
a) Votto, Lindor and Carasco for Altuve?
B) Murphy, Votto, Lindor for Altuve
c) Moncada, Lindor, Villar for Correa

Malicious Phenoms
Malicious Phenoms
Reply to  Chucky
5 years ago

@Chucky:
1. Jose
2. Jose
3. Carlos

Malicious Phenoms
Malicious Phenoms
5 years ago

Pineda will be only 28 this month, his best years are still ahead! A younger Yankees team will also help him. I believe he is gonna have a monster year this year or next or both for that matter..His stuff is just to good to keep being mediocre..

Duda Want to Build a Snowman?
Duda Want to Build a Snowman?
Reply to  Malicious Phenoms
5 years ago

@Malicious Phenoms: Love it!

mick
mick
Reply to  Malicious Phenoms
5 years ago

@Malicious Phenoms:

If Pineda doesn’t have a “monster” year in 2017, he’ll be wearing a different uniform in 2018. He’s mediocre because he doesn’t have he ability to consistently hit the black in 0-2 or 1-2 counts. The guy just throws too many pitches.

Malicious Phenoms
Malicious Phenoms
Reply to  mick
5 years ago

@mick:
I agree Mick, he does tend to nibble when he gets ahead in the count 1-2, 0-2, of using his best pitch to put the hitter away with two strikes…Think how many more K’s he could get a game if he did that.

mick
mick
Reply to  Malicious Phenoms
5 years ago

@Malicious Phenoms

I’m not necessarily that big a fan of K’s, lol. I’d be really happy if he developed a change up and a four seamer, which would change the eye level of the hitter. He also has that annoying , phobic issue of taking a lunch break between pitches. I’d hate playing behind him. It’d take him seven hours to throw a perfect game. His stuff just isn’t good enough to be a two pitch pitcher.

Sinkhole Demayo
Sinkhole Demayo
Reply to  mick
5 years ago

@mick: that might be a big part of it, he takes too long between pitches (so he’s the epitome of actually watching an entire NYY-BOS game on sunday night), move him to the NL make him actually pitch to what the rules of MLB say timewise, he might get a CY young at PIT or somewhere.

Halp
Halp
5 years ago

Great write-up. I didn’t think anyone was going to be able to get me excited for Pineda ever again but you managed to do it.

Big Odio
Big Odio
Reply to  Halp
5 years ago

@Halp: I can make you get unexcited about the La Pinata but since we co manage that industry dynasty team I’m going to lay off.

Halp
Halp
Reply to  Big Odio
5 years ago

@Big Odio: ha, I was already there as watching Pineda throw meatball after meatball as Yankees fan was not very fun.

Big Odio
Big Odio
Reply to  Halp
5 years ago

@Halp: honestly I think he could be a top 5 closer if converted. Too bad the yanks don’t have a bullpen problem.

Halp
Halp
Reply to  Big Odio
5 years ago

@Big Odio: Also in his last year of team control, so if Yanks sell at the deadline again, a move to a big park and/or NL would do wonders for his homer problem

JW
JW
5 years ago

Who has a better 2017, Buxton or Benintendi???

Malicious Phenoms
Malicious Phenoms
Reply to  JW
5 years ago

@JW:
B-B-B-Bennie and the Sox

CMUTimmah
CMUTimmah
Reply to  Grey
5 years ago

@Grey: I got hit up on Tinder by a girl that looked exactly like Benintendi. I took this as a sign from God that he was going to be a sure thing this year. I also took it as a sign from God because I’m married and don’t even have a Tinder account.

Buxton’s passed failures at the MLB level do not signify that he won’t have better numbers with some confidence, or more importantly, with a change to approach at the MLB level. I assume Grey’s thought here is batting position, which plays a vital role. But I think Benintendi is up from day one through day October, where Buxton will be up but not necessarily hitting leadoff if he struggles. (they don’t have many other options, but we’ve seen some pretty odd people leading off in the last 2 years, so I don’t think there’s a stigma against a non-conventional lineup anymore…)

Benintendi on the reigning best lineup in baseball (albeit without Ortiz that could change). The knock on him is that he’s a glue guy more than a fantasy sports guy… but I see that changing in the next couple years. I think he’s a 15/15 guy waiting to happen. Buxton might get you more steals, but SAGNOF.

Geoff
Reply to  Grey
5 years ago

@Grey: You don’t think Benintendi hits 9 homers?

Geoff
Reply to  Grey
5 years ago

@Grey: He’s proven to be a better hitter than Buxton for a year now. He’s never struggled at any level (other than 2 weeks in AA), has less holes in his swing, and 100% has an everyday job. Also in a better lineup, in a better park.

I don’t get Buxton over Beni, but I freely admit I have skin in the game with Benintendi on several levels. If he sucks I may have to quit Razzball. Buxton’s September seems flukie staring with that 36% HR/FB….

Geoff
Reply to  Grey
5 years ago

@Grey: What about runs and RBIs?

I’ll bet you whatever you want Benintendi has more homers at year end barring no more than one DL trip for each.

Geoff
Reply to  Grey
5 years ago

@Grey: Sounds like we all win! My nudes are breathtaking!