Our 2017 fantasy baseball rankings are humming right along.  The last post, the top 20 1st basemen for 2017 fantasy baseball, was the longest post ever written on the internet by a relatively sane person.  The post before that, top 20 catchers for 2017 fantasy baseball, was the longest post ever written by a relatively insane person.  Incredibly, these are the same person.  Glass half sane, glass half crazy, nah mean?  So, without further hubbub on the tomfoolery, the top 20 2nd basemen for 2017 fantasy baseball was shallow like how Altuve likes his pool water as recently as two years ago, but that was not the case last year, and almost rivaled 1st basemen for depth.  So, that’s the same again this year, right?  Well, let’s see about that.  As always, my projections are included and I mention where I see tiers starting and stopping.  Anyway, here’s the top 20 2nd basemen for 2017 fantasy baseball:

1. Jose Altuve – Went over him in the top 10 for 2017 fantasy baseball.

2. Trea Turner – Went over him in the top 20 for 2017 fantasy baseball.

3. Rougned Odor – Went over him in the top 20 for 2017 fantasy baseball.

4. Robinson Cano – This is a new tier.  This tier goes from here until Murphy.  I call this tier, “Why don’t I want any of these guys?”  These players were all good last year.  All good as in the everyday definition and not ‘all good’ like the Urban Dictionary definition.  Though, those two definitions are kinda the same.  Last year, Cano thru Murphy were turnt up AF (attracting a younger demographic!).  Cano thru Murphy last year hit the ave, their low rider went bump and the perfect song came on the radio all summer long.  This year?  They are giving me the mehs!  I don’t want any of them.  As for Cano, he had a career year in ’16 in a career that’s had some superb seasons.  He had a new career high in runs (107) and homers (39).  His HR/FB% was his 2nd highest of his career.  Last time that happened, he followed a 33-homer season with 27 HRs.  He had one of the lowest average distances on homers for someone with at least 20 homers (less than Marcus Semien and Salvador Perez with 395.7 feet).  Oh, and now he’s gonna be 34 years old.  2017 Projections:  86/26/91/.291/2 in 605 ABs

5. Jonathan Villar – Could one position have more guys I’m less excited about than other fantasy baseball ‘perts?  I’ll give you a hint:  no.  Okay, less of a hint and more of a direct answer.  I will say that Villar has me less disillusioned than most of the guys in this tier, and more just on the bleh train headed to Whatevs-ville.  Villar is a 15 homer, 35 steal, .255 hitter.  That’s not bad (and, brucely, no one in this tier is bad per se); it’s just I think we had five career years in the span of five players.  When was the last time that happened?  I’ll give you another hint:  I have no idea and I’m hoping you can tell me.  2017 Projections:  91/15/51/.257/37 in 565 ABs

6. Brian Dozier – Okay, seriously, how many career years can one tier handle?!  If you’re drafting in a DeLorean and going back to last year, then this tier is so luscious.  But if you’re drafting for this year, I really don’t understand how you could get excited about any of these guys.  Dozier is a .245 hitter who usually hits around 25 homers with 15-ish steal speed.  It’s solid, but he had 42 homers and 18 steals with a .268 average last year.  His ceiling called and said there’s no more room up here, go back down!  2017 Projections:  102/25/74/.248/15 in 595 ABs

7. Jean Segura – Here’s what I said this offseason, “(Segura) went the other way in the Taijuan Walker trade.  How I feel about this trade is more clear than Flint drinking water.  I like Segura, but he is not the 20-homer, 30-steal, .320-hitting guy he was last year.  Aren’t you supposed to build around young pitchers too?  Isn’t that Fix Your Team 101?  Don’t worry, Mariners fans are among the loudest homers, so you’ll hear all about how this is a great trade for them.  Yeah, mmhmm.  I rolled my eyes real hard between the yeah and the mmhmm.  You couldn’t even see my irises in the middle of the roll.  That’s how hard I roll!”  And that’s me quoting me!  2017 Projections:  83/11/46/.274/27 in 580 ABs

8. Ian Kinsler – I like the guys in this tier!  Dot dot dot.  At last year’s draft price.  This year, you’re lucky if you break even!  The preceding sounds like it could’ve also been a chorus in a 2 Live Jews song, and ‘Dot Dot Dot’ was signaling to one of the old Jewish ladies in the video.  A bit of insight into the actual numbering here, I almost had the tier go from Cano to Dozier and Segura thru Murphy as a different tier.  Also, at one point, I had Kinsler above Segura with Kipnis below Murphy.  What does all this mean besides my early campaigning for Indecision ’17?  It means everyone from Segura to Murphy are close, and Cano, Villar and Dozier feel on a slightly higher level.  2017 Projections:  105/18/77/.272/12 in 607 ABs

9. Daniel Murphy – Went over him in the top 20 1st basemen for 2017 fantasy baseball.

10. Jonathan Schoop – This is a new tier.  This tier goes from here until LeMahieu.  I call this tier, “The night shift!”  Tier name is pretty straightforward.  Kidding, the tier name makes no sense without an explanation.  The other day my Cougar wife said to me that, due to my snoring, we might have to sleep in shifts.  She would sleep for six hours then I get to sleep for six hours.  So, I immediately yelled, “I take the night shift!” Cougs then argued that she came up with the plan so she gets the night shift, but I said it’s like when you call shotgun first.  Doesn’t matter if that means grandma, with her arthritic knees, is stuck in the backseat, if you call shotgun first, then you get shotgun.  Well, I called the night shift, which means I get to sleep from midnight to six AM and Cougs can sleep from 6 AM to noon.  That’s this tier, the tier you want, the night shift.   As for Schoop, I’m convinced that if people saw Schoop hit, they’d be as excited about drafting him.  Let’s see if there’s anything to that:

Sexy, right?  I also think people are less enthusiastic for Schoop due to his OBP, even if people don’t play in OBP leagues.  Would it be nice if he took some walks?  Yeah, I guess, but the elderly are all about taking walks, but I’m not drafting how well the old dude with tennis balls on his walker is moving through the mall.  Last year was a big year for power, and Schoop’s stats actually show he has more to give, rather than less.  His fly balls went down slightly along with his HR/FB%.  If those revert to his career norms, and, at 25 years old, I expect they will, then he can get above 30+ HRs without a ton of effort. 2017 Projections:  78/30/89/.260/2 in 565 ABs

11. Dee Gordon – 94/2/28/.268/60 is Gordon’s stats from last year if you would prorate them across a whole season.  Sure, when we prorate, we make a pro out of rat and E.  Okay, that doesn’t work as well as assume, but 50+ steals doesn’t seem like a pipe dream, unless Gordon was smoking his PEDs rather than just injecting them.  2017 Projections: 88/3/39/.282/51 in 608 ABs

12. Jose Peraza –  For every guy that says at your draft, “Pereza is gonna play and steal 50+ bases!”  Tell him there’s a Chinese orphan that drafted Peraza last year with the same hopes, and back then they had a family.  Draft Peraza, but he may abandon you as the Reds abandon him.  UPDATE:  The Reds look more committed to Peraza now than in January and have been pushing him to be their number two hitter, and, since their number one hitter is Billy Hamilton, the Reds could lead the league in bunts, infield singles and ‘Damn, I shouldn’t have blinked’s.   2017 Projections:  78/4/46/.288/44 in 527 ABs

13. Devon Travis – Already gave you my Devon Travis sleeper.  It was written while sifting through my Cracker Jack for the prize.  2017 Projections: 91/19/64/.285/10 in 578 ABs

14. DJ LeMahieu – This is so not the kind of guy I usually get excited about.  11 HRs and 11 SBs last year?  Let me vomit into my mouth then slowly drop it out of mouth and spell out ‘Blech’ with vomit spittle.  That’s my usual reaction to a guy like LeMahieu.  LeMehpew — amiright?!   Okay, so bear with me, or bare with me if you’re a nudist, LeMahieu’s average home run distance was 416.6 feet, that would’ve been the 4th highest in the majors if he had 20 homers.  He hit a ton of homers to straightaway center (okay, only six to center, but he only hit 11 total).  If he pulls some balls in Coors, I think 20 HRs is possible. We’re seeing a new LeMahieu — LeMahnew? — one that hits for some power and still hits for a high average.  Finally, his speed is kinda make or break his value a bit — LeValue? — and he might be more of a 15-steal guy than the 23 steals he had in 2015.  There’s some risk here, but I’m guessing LeMahieu becomes a top five 2nd baseman this year with not that much risk when you consider he was the 9th best 2nd baseman last year on your Player Rater.  The top five is his LeMilieu.  2017 Projections:  96/14/64/.311/15 in 560 ABs

15. Matt Carpenter – This is a new tier.  This tier goes from here until Castro.  I call this tier, “If you don’t know what to expect, welcome to your first year of fantasy baseball.  It’s challenging (to maintain relationships while watching fifteen games every day for six months).”  Went over Carpenter in the top 20 1st basemen for 2017 fantasy baseball.

16. Logan Forsythe – I saw some talk this offseason by someone that LoFo is a cheap Kipnis.  I suppose there’s a case to be made there, I’m not making that case obvi. LoFo had 511 ABs last year, and 509 of them were leadoff, and he still only had 76 runs.  Yeah, LoFo’s my fetch.  UPDATE:  The Dodgers traded for Forsythe because I guess he was a cheap Dozier?  You know, because the Dodgers were trying to trade for Dozier this offseason.  This pushes Kike Hernandez to the bench.  So, the Dodgers went for Forsythe over someone with no foreskin?  This boosts his counting stats value (more runs and RBIs), but doesn’t do a lot for his AVG and HRs.  I’m boosting him in the rankings, but keeping him in the same tier.  2017 Projections: 88/16/54/.265/9 in 543 ABs

17. Dustin Pedroia – Trick question:  does the Waldorf-Astoria have the highest priced prostitutes?  Okay, trick question on topic:  in the last five years, Pedroia has 106+ runs and 16+ homers, how many times?  Zero.  2017 Projections: 88/12/51/.306/6 in 570 ABs

18. Ben Zobrist – He will have at least 710 ABs this year if he stays healthy.  Those capable of a little in-between-line reading will see how healthy I think he will be this year.  As his wife song goes, “Jesus is with us every day, but Ben is day-to-day, day-to-day, day-to-day.”  Hey, take it up with her the rhyming of day with day, day and day.  2017 Projections: 86/14/55/.266/7 in 555 ABs

19. Neil Walker – If you came to this post only looking to see what I had to say about Neil Walker, you should check Ancestry.com or Geni.com, I bet you’re related to him.  2017 Projections:  66/23/75/.275/3 in 523 ABs

20. Starlin Castro – Last year I said something like, “I love Castro, he’s gonna get 20+ homers, yippee-ki-ay-motherfracker!”  Maybe not the fracking part because I just started watching Battlestar Galactica.  By the way, I’m not a sci-fi geek, but BG’s entertaining as frack.  As for Castro, um, yeah, he got 20+ homers and was still whatever.  2017 Projections:  67/23/77/.265/5 in 567 ABs

21. Javier Baez – This is a new tier.  This tier goes from here until Mondesi.  I call this tier, “You sure they got the everyday job?”  By this tier name I mean, I hear the same stuff as you, how each of these guys is starting for their team or how they’re not starting.  I think they’re all liable to be drafted in March and, by May, it’s going to become, “Ugh, (fill-in player name from this tier) isn’t playing again.  Why didn’t you tell me he was going to sit so much?”  Then I’ll link to this.  Then you’ll say, “Hey, look at the birdie,” as you’re distracted.  As for Baez, I’m guessing I’m more down on Baez, in a non-sexual way, than most ‘perts.  On a bad team, Baez plays for 600 ABs and I’m Afrika Bambaataa wearing sunglasses that have Baez’s face on them and a medallion with Baez’s number.  Now?  I don’t see Baez getting more than 450 ABs or hitting anywhere above the six hole for more than a hundred of them.  The Cubs winning last year really cemented this too.  If you’re Maddon, do you work in Baez more than last year after being so successful platooning him?  Rhetorical!  2017 Projections:  55/17/65/.268/13 in 449 ABs

22. Jason Kipnis – Can take some solace that I refuse to pay retail prices for two guys in this tier — Kinsler and Kipnis — because Kinsler is Jewish and Kipnis sounds like a side order at a Jewish deli that you ask the waitress to explain every time you’re there and always forget how she described it.  “It’s what stuffed into an intestine?”  This tier, maybe more than any other tier this year, is going to tell us whether the offense surge last year is going to be a long term trend or if it’s going to be a one year thing.  Kipnis has me the most optimistic from this tier.  Not optimistic enough to move him in a more favorable tier, but his numbers don’t scream regression if you believe the gains he made last year.  His fly balls shot up (literally), his hard contact went way up, his ground balls went down (literally and figuratively).  A 13.1% HR/FB doesn’t seem that impossible to repeat.  He looks a lot more like a 17-homer guy than an under-ten homer guy as he was in 2014 and ’15.  The big concern is something he can’t change — his actual profile of a 17-homer, 15-steal, .265-type of hitter.  That just isn’t that exciting.  UPDATE:  Kipnis will miss Opening Day with a rotator cuff injury.  Terry Francona said, “Kipnis is getting better and nothing went haywire.”  Is it me or do managers talk like they’re in the 1940’s?  “All these newfangled buttons on the iPhone!  Just give me a clubhouse phone and Andrew Miller and I’ll be a-okay.  Unless I’m facing dem newfangled Dominican players.  Consarnit!  That Nelson Cruz jumping-jack-frass’d that ball to kingdom come!  Now, someone get me my Pall Malls!”  That’s Jim Leyland after the U.S.-Dominican game this past weekend.  That Nelson Cruz could live in the Sandals’ Punta Cana resort for the rest of his life without paying any resort fee.  I’m talking free bags of plantain chips!  UPDATE II:  Will be out another month-plus.  Funny how ‘nothing went haywire’ and Kipnis has had three setbacks through three doctor visits.  My advice, stop going to the doctor.  2017 Projections:  51/11/41/.259/12 in 419 ABs

23. Jedd Gyorko –  Went over him in the top 20 1st basemen for 2017 fantasy baseball.

24. Josh Harrison – Best case scenario, he tops his career high of 13 homers and career high of 19 steals, so a poor man’s Segura.  Worst case scenario, he sleeps with your wife, watches cartoons on your Netflix so your suggested shows are all screwed up and uses your Rickey Henderson rookie card as a coaster.  Most realistic scenario…. 2017 Projections:  73/7/48/.280/17 in 491 ABs

25. Ryan Schimpf – Doesn’t Schimpf sound like a genetically modified shrimp they only serve at PF Chang’s?  No?  Meh, maybe it’s just me.  Schimpf could hit 35 homers, with a .180 average and be playing in Korea by 2018.  Or he hits 25 homers with a .210 average and is playing in Korea in 2019.  Lots of possibilities here!  2017 Projections:  54/27/62/.207/5 in 488 ABs

26. Hernan Perez – *looks up how Hernan got 404 ABs last year in 123 games, gets distracted and somehow five hours later I’m on the Wikipedia page for the actor that plays Gregor Clegane*  Pretty interesting stuff, but can he do it again? (Don’t even remember who the ‘he’ is I was distracted for so long… Oh!  Yeah, Hernan!)  Right, so Perez was a Swiss Army knife last year for the Brewers, as his mention on the 2017 position eligibility chart shows.  He has no starting job right now, but that might not preclude him from 400+ ABs anymore than Lawrie’s starting job guarantees him 400-plus ABs.  I imagine a lot of value for Perez in daily NL-Only leagues when you can slot him in and out of your lineup, and not a ton of people drafting him in shallower weekly leagues.  If he gets the ABs, I don’t think a 10/30 season is that hard to imagine.  2017 Projections:  55/10/46/.247/30 in 422 ABs

27. Kolten Wong – There’s hope here that he recaptures his former top prospect status, but there’s also a possibility it’s all just Wong.  2017 Projections:  59/14/64/.278/10 in 435 ABs

28. Raul Mondesi – Will challenge that age-old adage, you can’t steal first base.  If he makes it to September in the lineup, he will then challenge, you can’t wear white after Labor Day.  Though, all players struggle with that.  2017 Projections:  51/9/59/.212/38 in 487 ABs

29. Danny Espinosa – This is a new tier.  This tier goes from here until Solarte.  I call this tier, “Yes, they are the starters.  God help you if you own one.”  As for Espinosa, here’s what I said this offseason, “(Espinosa was) traded to the Angels.  Going back to the Nats in the trade was, “We don’t care, just take Espinosa.”  Why did Arte Moreno go from spending $200 million every offseason to looking like he’s using EBT?  Is Moreno the Latin Loria?  Did he build up a team to get a lucrative TV contract and then pull the rug out on fans?  Mike Trout is looking like a modern day Ernie Banks with this schmohawk offense.”  And that’s me quoting me!  2017 Projections:  57/19/67/.215/12 in 502 ABs

30. Brandon Drury – Too bad Mark Grace no longer announces games for the Diamondbacks, since Drury sounds like a drunk person saying drawer.  “Hey, woman, did you put my koozie in the Drury?”  That’s you after one too many.  You can’t start in Chase Field all year and not have moments where you look like you’re going to be a top five option at your position, if only for a few weeks.  Drury went through it last year.   Though, even after a near-full season, Drury still only had 16 homers and 1 steal.  So, yeah.  2017 Projections:  66/18/71/.277/2 in 480 ABs

31. Joe Panik – I’ve seen a few things with Panik.  Seen him listed as the starter, the strong side of a platoon with Ehire Adrianza and as the first reaction when your drunk dad says he wants to give a toast.  I’d be more Panik’d if I had to rely on him for fantasy.  2017 Projections:  58/8/61/.262/5 in 488 ABs

32. Cesar Hernandez – Feels like one of those guys that is great in theory and terrible in reality.  Like every Jim Jarmusch film.  Adam Driver couldn’t even save Paterson.  I’m sorry, but that movie would put to sleep a hummingbird on cocaine.  2017 Projections:  65/4/35/.277/20 in 515 ABs

33. Howie Kendrick – Went over him in the top 20 1st basemen for 2017 fantasy baseball.

34. Brandon Phillips –  His value will go up if he’s traded to a contender where there’s no room for him to be a regular player, just so he’s no longer being awful in an lineup.  UPDATE:  As my previous blurb indicated, I figured Phillips would be traded, just didn’t expect it to happen this soon.  Phillips goes to the Braves as a stopgap to prospect, Ozzie Albies, and clubhouse influence, which is different than Jung-ho who is just under the influence.  Ooh, Idea Alert!  They should have a TV show, NL Storytellers, where veterans get on and talk about how things were while being accompanied by a striped-down Matchbox Twenty.  As for Phillips in Atlanta for fantasy, nothing changes.  2017 Projections:  65/12/69/.269/15 in 512 ABs

35. Yangervis Solarte – Fair point, person who pointed out that Solarte will be more valuable than Schimpf because of Solarte’s .270 average and decent counting stats.  You won tickets for the Padres.  You can pick any game, any seat and stretch your legs over 50,000 seats while you’re there.  The thing is, Solarte has absolutely no upside and is a complete bore who I would never draft him, while I could see a flyer on Schimpf.  That totally is a P.F. Chang’s dish, right?  Schimpf flyer?  No?  Damn.  2017 Projections:  68/16/77/.270/1 in 509 ABs

36. Wilmer Flores – This is a new tier.  This tier goes from here until Dietrich.  I call this tier, “I like them, just playin’.”  Hmm, for the millennial set that might be confusin’.  I do like these guys, if they are just playin’.  Not jokin’, I mean just startin’.  Damn, bad week to drop all my G’s.  If these ‘uys are just playin’, I like them.  Not just jokin’!  U’h, for’et it.  As for Wilmer, went over him in the top 20 1st basemen for 2017 fantasy baseball.

37. Steve Pearce – Here’s what I said this offseason, “(Pearce) signed with the Jays. Thus far the Blue Jays’ offseason moves can be described by their fans as, “I hope there’s better moves to come.” As of right now, Pearce is the Jays’ starting left fielder and best hitting outfielder.  Gulp.”  And that’s me quoting me!  The good news, the Jays signed Bautista after that.  The bad news for the Jays….Bautista.  2017 Projections:  44/14/49/.279/2 in 315 ABs

38. Scooter Gennett – News out of Milwaukee is Scooter will need to battle for playing time.  If Scooter has a sword, spiked mace or gun, I like his chances.  If he has a bat, then I’m worried about him.  2017 Projections:  41/10/47/.274/5 in 390 ABs

39. Tyler Saladino – He should see playing time when Lawrie blows out his knee or ‘any last bit of enthusiasm anyone can anyone have for Lawrie is gone.’  2017 Projections:  41/7/44/.276/13 in 376 ABs

40. Jace Peterson – He could hit 10 homers and steal 30 bases.  Just playin’!  Not just jokin’, with the Braves playin’ with Jace.  Not messin’ with him, playin’ him!  Si’h.  2017 Projections:  51/5/27/.239/13 in 403 ABs

41. Whit Merrifield – As Lewis Carroll once said, “To Whit Merrifield, among the mad people who drafted him.  Why, sometimes I’m ‘To Whit Merrifield’ too.”  2017 Projections:  40/5/34/.261/5 in 302 ABs

42. Derek Dietrich – Went over him in the top 20 1st basemen for 2017 fantasy baseball.

44. Enrique Hernandez – This is a new tier.  This tier goes from here until the end of the list.  I call this tier, “I’m sorry you had a stroke during the draft, but at least you drafted someone to play 2nd base.”  As for Enrique, he’s the third Jew of the top 20 2nd basemen.  Though, only when he goes by his nickname.  UPDATE:  The Dodgers showed great Forsythe by not starting the season with this schmohawk.  2017 Projections:  54/12/57/.248/6 in 507 ABs

43. Jurickson Profar – Went over him in the top 20 1st basemen for 2017 fantasy baseball.

44. Brett Lawrie – You, “Lawrie has to start every day, the White Sox are rebuilding.”  You in May, “Why do I own Lawrie yet actively rooting for Saladino to steal at-bats from him?”  You in June, “Thank God, Lawrie got hurt.”  UPDATE:  The White Sox released Lawrie.  He’s not concerned, he just updated his LinkedIn profile with “aggressively runs into the stands at a moment’s notice.”  Should be hearing from someone any day now.  2017 Projections: 61/15/64/.244/6 in 475 ABs

44. Jed Lowrie – Jed’s dead (last), baby, Jed’s dead (last).  2017 Projections: 48/7/52/.249 in 468 ABs

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Roger Podacter
Roger Podacter
5 years ago

GREY!

I don’t have any questions..

Okay here’s one – what is your preferred number of napkins to have when you’re eating a cheeseburger?

Does that amount change when eating an all beef American hot dog?

inquiring minds..

"bob"
"bob"
5 years ago

test test test. check. czechoslovakia.

"bob"
"bob"
Reply to  "bob"
5 years ago

just realized, using a newly made up name isn’t the best thing to check with, as when using a name the first time you ALWAYS get moderated first.

"bob"
"bob"
Reply to  Grey
5 years ago

@Grey:

"bob"
"bob"
Reply to  "bob"
5 years ago

yep, same issue. maybe if i sign in to razzball all the time first, i’ll try that.

"bob"
"bob"
Reply to  "bob"
5 years ago

check check, czechoslovakia

"bob"
"bob"
Reply to  "bob"
5 years ago

nope, that didn’t help.

The Harrow
The Harrow
Reply to  Grey
5 years ago

@Grey: mine do go through, but i’m not this bob character.

The Harrow
The Harrow
Reply to  The Harrow
5 years ago

@The Harrow: maybe you need so many posts in a certain time window to not be moderated or something like that.

ThE sHiT
ThE sHiT
5 years ago

Damn, another young player passes. RIP Yordano Ventura

The Harrow
The Harrow
Reply to  ThE sHiT
5 years ago

@ThE sHiT: this one ain’t like with jo-fer though, this one could easily have a more involved story to it (re: some sort of foul play). i’m not saying i have any news on that, but yordano certainly wasn’t jo-fer. jo-fer was the nicest human alive. some would be turned off by using the actual adjectives (speaking ill of the dead is a popular thing), we know about yordano though i don’t need to.

The Harrow
The Harrow
Reply to  The Harrow
5 years ago

@The Harrow: i mean having some sort fear of speaking ill of the dead is a fairly popular thing, even thought the exact opposite would seem to make sense (game theory wise, hard to have repercussions and all)

The Harrow
The Harrow
Reply to  The Harrow
5 years ago

@The Harrow: i was wrong, there already is some other news indicating something more involved went down, an andy marte (a teammate on KC apparently) also died in a “separate” car accident. how these 2 could be completely separated of course seems like complete b.s.

Quimmy
Quimmy
5 years ago

Sir, in my long term keeper league with OBP, SLG and TB+BB as additional cats besides the standard 5, I loaded up on offense:

Altuve
Rizzo
Machado
Springer
Lindor
Desmond

There won’t be a lot of good bats in the pool outside the first round, so I didn’t bother with pitchers. However, I was offered Sale for my Desmond. Extra pitching cats r INN, k/9 and QS.

If I don’t do it I’m looking at a rotation with my best case scenario being SP2’s as my staff leaders.

At the same time I feel like the bat is way more valuable. Thoughts?

Nightpandas
Nightpandas
5 years ago

Hey Grey,

Would you move Mazara for Carrasco in a 15 team partial keeper? Got lots of bats but my sp to pick from are Harvey, Matz, Walker, Gausman…not great

muskysmell
muskysmell
5 years ago

YOU HEARD IT HERE FIRST:

Peraza will be a top 5 2B in 2017.

Duda Want to Build a Snowman?
Duda Want to Build a Snowman?
5 years ago

Hey Grey – which side do like in a 12 team keeper?

$30 Kershaw, $6 Khris, $10 Dahl

or

$19 Strasburg, $23 Blackmon, and $10 JD Mart

or

$25 Scherzer, $16 Maeda, and one of $10 Dahl or $19 Cruz or $4 Nunez

I’m leaning towards the Kershaw one.

Thanks!

Duda Want to Build a Snowman?
Duda Want to Build a Snowman?
Reply to  Grey
5 years ago

@Grey: thanks good sir!

Chucky
Chucky
5 years ago

Competitive 2017 team. 12T 6x6OBP Keep forever, no contracts. Last three spots: Votto, Murphy, Lindor, Villar, Bregman, Dahl, Scherzer and Carasco

Scott Kimmel
Scott Kimmel
5 years ago

Grey,

The deal took a wild turn. WOuld you make this deal?

I give up: Pujols, Duffy, Cain and Maeda
I get: Myers, Miller, Gray and Kluber

Scott Kimmel
Scott Kimmel
Reply to  Grey
5 years ago

because of Gray, Grey?

Scott Kimmel
Scott Kimmel
Reply to  Grey
5 years ago

you dont think Gray can rebound?

Scott Kimmel
Scott Kimmel
Reply to  Grey
5 years ago

ok thanks

swaggerjackers
swaggerjackers
5 years ago

There were a couple good chuckles in this post. I appreciate the many outcomes for Schimpf.

I also appreciate that you acknowledged how Castro hit your projections but was still boring. I remember having that exact thought while staring at his projections before drafts last season.

Big Odio
Big Odio
5 years ago

Kimmel Scott!

The JoGarza
The JoGarza
5 years ago

Hey Grey,

In a 12-team NFBC style league, I draft 12th. Was thinking about going Miggy and Correa. But if the opportunity is there, should I be greedy and go Miggy and Rizzo? Or would that hamper me later in the draft?

Never done NFBC so not sure which way to lean.

Richard Davis
Richard Davis
5 years ago

Would you trade Dansby and the #3 pick in this years prospect draft(Maitan), both of them, for Moncada?

Bop
Bop
5 years ago

Obviously, you are not a big fan of Daniel Murphy for 2017. Could you please explain the huge difference between your take on Murphy’s 2016 season and Baseball Forecaster’s (“making another 20+ HR well within reach”, “steady xBA gains validate another .300+ BA”, “now among the elite”)?

Karen
Karen
Reply to  Grey
5 years ago

@Grey: Shandlers and staff predictions are more reliable than yours year after year. I’d go with Shandler any day over your predictions. Don’t quit your day job. Instead of trying to be so “clever” when writing your predictions why don’t you actually do some real research? Your site is a joke. I only look at your site to know what not to do. From 1 of your 5 lady readers.

Another Dan
Another Dan
5 years ago

Thanks Grey,

find myself going back and re-reading what you’ve written several times. As others have said both informative and entertaining.

Am trying to upgrade my 2B in a 12 team H2H 6×6 (BB and QS) keep forever dynasty. I have Kinsler but am making enquiries about Odor. Guy has expressed an interest in taking two of Sanchez, Bellinger and Buxton.

MLB: 33/30
C – J.T. Realmuto – MIA
1B – Paul Goldschmidt – ARI
2B – Ian Kinsler – DET
3B – Daniel Murphy – WAS
SS – Orlando Arcia – MIL
IF – J Abreu – CHW
LF – Andrew Benintendi – BOS
CF – Mike Trout – LAA
RF – Carlos Gonzalez COL
OF – Odubel Herrera – PHI
UT – K Seager – SEA
UT – Max Kepler – OF MIN

BENCH – Gary Sanchez – C – NYY
BENCH – Ryon Healy – 3B – OAK
BENCH – Brock Holt – BOS
BENCH – Byron Buxton – OF – MIN

Which one :-
(a) Sanchez and Buxton for Odor
(b) Sanchez and Bellinger for Odor
(c)
(d) Sanchez and Kinsler for Odor
(e) none of the above

Another Dan
Another Dan
Reply to  Grey
5 years ago

@Grey:

Thanks Grey.

Been reading this site long enough to be pretty meh, about all Catchers.

Copperhead Road
Copperhead Road
5 years ago

Can you imagine drafting Hidago late as a 4th oufielder and getting those stats. The following year he followed it up with 70/19/80/.275
Regression Fairies hit hard!
January 2001: “Grey, I was just offered Hidalgo for my Bonds. I should do it, right?”

Copperhead Road
Copperhead Road
Reply to  Grey
5 years ago

@Grey: Ha. True

Damon
Damon
5 years ago

I know the OF rankings are coming, but, Grichuk or Keon Broxton in a dynasty league? I know both were sleepers for ya, but who is more sleepy? Or is it less sleepy?

Copperhead Road
Copperhead Road
5 years ago

Last time we had 5 career years in the span of 5 guys?
How about 2000?
Jeff Hammonds 94/20/106/.335 152 hits
Darin Erstad 121/25/100/.355 240 hits!!
Mike Sweeney 105/29/144/.333 206 hits
Jose Vidro 101/24/97/.330 200 hits
Richard Hidalgo 118/44/122/.314

Ahh Steroids. There may be others but most of what these guys did they were career highs or close enough to argue they had career years in 2000.

Landru
Landru
5 years ago

Hey Grey.. 12-team points league, a little SP heavy, 6 keepers.

Would you trade Villar for either D.Duffy or M.Fullmer?

Landru
Landru
Reply to  Grey
5 years ago

@Grey: Thanks Grey! Moving from DEFCON 1 to 3 now.

Matt
Matt
5 years ago

I checked, I am not related to Neil Walker. Just like him now that he is out of Pittsburgh! Hilarious that I truly did come here to see what you had to say about Walker.

Big Odio
Big Odio
5 years ago

Was that Seattle fan line a ploy to get a sky appearance in here? *crosses fingers sheds a tear*

Big Odio
Big Odio
Reply to  Grey
5 years ago

@Grey: then a call out for tehol?

Big Odio
Big Odio
Reply to  Grey
5 years ago

@Grey: makes sense. Nothing else better to do in that weather.

Does that mean tehol could work at fangraphs?

Big Odio
Big Odio
Reply to  Grey
5 years ago

@Grey: that was meant to be a joke.. like said with a smirk

Big Odio
Big Odio
Reply to  Grey
5 years ago

@Grey: jerkin’and a lurkin’

Big Odio
Big Odio
Reply to  Big Odio
5 years ago

Look out for the lurkin’ and jerkin twerkin’ the gerkin’

Big Odio
Big Odio
Reply to  Big Odio
5 years ago

you know can’t look away, like me when anything with Ted Knight or Judd Hirsch comes on the TV

Big Odio
Big Odio
Reply to  Big Odio
5 years ago

when I was a kid I’d watch reruns of everything. Lou Grant was my spirit animal!

Big Odio
Big Odio
Reply to  Big Odio
5 years ago

we had this tiny black and white TV in the garage and I would sit out there all the time watching TV. Didn’t matter what it was, Id watch it. It was funny, we got burglarized twice at one of our houses and both times they didn’t steal the old black and white.

Big Odio
Big Odio
Reply to  Big Odio
5 years ago

those technicolor bastards

Scott Kimmel
Scott Kimmel
5 years ago

Grey,

A guy in my league is asking for Pujols, Duffy and Cain. He wants to know who I would want for them. This is his team:

Wieters
Han-Ram
LeMathieu
Justin Turner
Andrus
Nelson Cruz,
Cespedes
Morales
Bradley,Jr.
Desmond
Myers
Pence
Santana
Kyle Seager
Trumbo
Gio Gonzalez
Gray
Happ
Kluber
Tyson Ross
Matt Bush
Hererra
Jim JOhnson
Andrew Miller
Marquez
Osuna
Robertson
Colome

My pitching staff is stacked:
Bum
Duffy
Kershaw
Lynn
Maeda
Roark
Scherzer
Shoemaker
Thor
Verlander

Scott Kimmel
Scott Kimmel
Reply to  Grey
5 years ago

I am looking for bullpen thats why i asked for Miller, help better backup at OF, probably one or two SP

Scott Kimmel
Scott Kimmel
Reply to  Grey
5 years ago

Gray, Miller and Myers

Scott Kimmel
Scott Kimmel
Reply to  Grey
5 years ago

ask him for those three?

Scott Kimmel
Scott Kimmel
Reply to  Grey
5 years ago

I get Gray, Miller and Myers for pujols, Duffy and Cain

Scott Kimmel
Scott Kimmel
Reply to  Scott Kimmel
5 years ago

Sonny Gray garbage?

Scott Kimmel
Scott Kimmel
Reply to  Grey
5 years ago

Im trying for Kluber instead of Gray

Scott Kimmel
Scott Kimmel
Reply to  Scott Kimmel
5 years ago

there is another offer on the table of Pujols and Cain for Miller and Myers. Thoughts?

Scott Kimmel
Scott Kimmel
Reply to  Scott Kimmel
5 years ago

he wants to do the Gray, Miller and Myers for Pujols, Duffy and Cain. If I dont take gray, what pitcher should I ask for from him? Happ or Tyson Ross?

Scott Kimmel
Scott Kimmel
Reply to  Scott Kimmel
5 years ago

Grey these are his SP:

Gio Gonzalez
Gray
Happ
Kluber
Tyson Ross

Raoul Duke
Raoul Duke
5 years ago

I think you are spot on with the Baez blurb. I’ve had Javy on my team for a couple years and have been begging for him to get traded because I think he has the potential to hit higher in most lineups not named the Cubs. Anyway, thanks for keeping my fantasy game on point.

StewZilla
StewZilla
5 years ago

Glad the rankings have arrived! Thanks as always…

Quick question…I can acquire Corey Seager for Noah Syndergaard in my Head-to-Head auction keeper league. My team is below. I have Trea at SS currently…but could slide him over and try to move Cano in his last contract year for another arm. I tend to devalue pitching in Head-to-Head leagues…but am I doing so too much here?

FWIW I won the league last year….

C Jonathan LuCroy $3 1 year
1B Joey Votto $29 1 years
2B Robinson Cano $23 1 year
3B Todd Frazier $8 1 year
SS Trea Turner $2 4 years
OF Bryce Harper $20 5 years
OF Ian Desmond $2 1 year
OF Yeonis Cespedes $18 (can re-sign up to 5 years)
UTIL Nelson Cruz $9 2 years
UTIL Adam Jones $8 3 years
BN Jose Bautista $8 1 year
BN Hanley Ramirez $15 (up to 5 years)

SP Noah Sydergaard $11 4 years
SP Carlos Carrasco $5 4 years
SP Jon Lester $18 1 year
SP Carlos Martinez $2 1 year
SP Jake Odorizzi $3 2 years
SP Justin Verlander $5 1 year
SP Kenta Maeda $8 2 years
SP Danny Duffy $6 up to 5 years

Ante GALIC
Ante GALIC
5 years ago

Grey!

Great post, man! It’s like a modern day Mona Lisa!

a. Arrived today in Farchana, USA! All went well with the flight, I unpacked everything, showered AND am at work to boot – the Chadian trifecta!

b. This list of 2B has me really scared!!! So, yesterday’s message – draft one of the top 2 1B. The message today – draft one of the top 4 2B. What will be the message on Monday? Draft one of the top 2 SS? Man, we’re in trouble this year! Seems like HRs will be way down – thanks, Donald!

Cheers,
Ante

Big Odio
Big Odio
Reply to  Ante GALIC
5 years ago

@Ante GALIC: really? My takeaway was you can wait on 2B because of the depth. You cant go wrong.

Matty
Matty
5 years ago

This is where I’m having the toughest time with my deep twelve team dynasty.
I plan to have Schoop ($3) as my main 2B squeeze, but I’m still tempted by my Segura ($13) and Baez ($9) side pieces.

I also can’t decide what to do with Nuñez for $4 but he doesn’t become an issue until Monday and Tuesday when you do SS and 3B (Story for $5 will be the main SS).

Is there a tier of pitchers I could hope to get for two of those three (Baez/ Nun/ Segura)?

Thanks.

Matty
Matty
Reply to  Grey
5 years ago

@Grey:
Excellent.
(Number one starter means top fifteen or so? Number one on my team, right?)

Thanks again.

G
G
5 years ago

Hey Gray,

Excited to be back in baseball. Knew when I had a dream about losing my third round pick it was about that time.

So, my four keepers are machado, Arenado, Correa, and Trea Turner. Love all of them – but would you trade Correa (round 9) or Machado (round 5) for Rizzo (round 7) to have my infield set and give me more flexibility rather than having to put one of those guys in one of my two utility? If so, would you be comfortable parting with either one for Rizzo if owner likes over the other? Who would you rather give up for Rizzo? Thanks as always.

dhouse42
dhouse42
5 years ago

Do you think odor continues to slip to 3rd or even 4th round in a typical 12-team league? That would be awesome.

Montezuma's Revenge...right now
Montezuma's Revenge...right now
5 years ago

who do you see at 2B if not drurrrry?

Montezuma's Revenge...right now
Montezuma's Revenge...right now
Reply to  Grey
5 years ago

@Grey: marte ARI? at 2B?

Montezuma's Revenge...right now
Montezuma's Revenge...right now
Reply to  Grey
5 years ago

@Grey: rosterresource is weirdly showing ketel one in minors, forgot about him. it’s been doing that for months (saying each comment needs to be verified)

Montezuma's Revenge...right now
Montezuma's Revenge...right now
Reply to  Montezuma's Revenge...right now
5 years ago

@Montezuma’s Revenge…right now: sorry, “moderated”

Montezuma's Revenge...right now
Montezuma's Revenge...right now
Reply to  Grey
5 years ago

@Grey: i’ll try that, but i’ve seen you ask about this same problem for at least 3 others in last 2 weeks or so.

i’ll try “bob” here in a second.

Joe
Joe
5 years ago

What about Moncada? What are the chances he gets the starting job? Regardless, he’ll probably get 400 ABs this year for the rebuilding Sox. Thoughts? I’m VERY high on him in keeper leagues, especially given that the steals give him a high floor – and he has a direct path to the Majors.

Warren
Warren
5 years ago

The only ranking I can quibble with is Carp. Seems pretty dependable, two straight years of .235 ISO and a great batted ball profile (9% soft contact last year!). If not for the injury he would have hit 25 again. Only 31, so injury or age cliff doesn’t seem like a huuuuge problem.

Basically, he seems like Cano/Murphy to me, likely hitting 3rd behind Fowler and Diaz so should have a solid 85+ R/RBI. Why is he down at 15? Seems like he should put up a top 10 season to me. Also I am in an OBP league so he’s even more attractive (and Odor even stinkier).

What are your concerns with him? Age?

Robert
Robert
Reply to  Grey
5 years ago

@Grey: I was wondering the same thing because doesn’t any of that change slightly with the approach when hitting 3rd vs. the times he has lead off or 2-holed it (pun definitely intended)

joeybell
joeybell
5 years ago

Your Villar projection implies that you think that last year’s power was more legit than the speed? I was sure you’d say 11 HR, 45 steals. Any more thoughts on how you got there?

Clint
Clint
5 years ago

Pearce is only listed as 1B in my league. Where would you slot him in those ranklings, good sir?

Clint
Clint
Reply to  Clint
5 years ago

@Clint:
And you wrote a sleeper post on Tim Anderson but then didn’t rank him? Bruh……

Clint
Clint
Reply to  Clint
5 years ago

@Clint:
Scratch that. Anderson’s only a SS in my league too so maybe I’m jumping the gun on that one.

Montezuma's Revenge...right now
Montezuma's Revenge...right now
Reply to  Clint
5 years ago

@Clint: in between wilmer and dietrich

Zeus
Zeus
5 years ago

There were a lot of career years last year. Seems fishier than Betty Whites privates

Robert
Robert
Reply to  Zeus
5 years ago

@Grey: He’s like Frazier in that he played in the Little League world [email protected]Zeus: Really, the inimitable Betty White? If you are going Golden Girls reference, the joke kills much more with Rue Mcclanahan

Fungazi
Fungazi
5 years ago

Unless I’m not understanding the tiers, the only guys you are going to want to draft are the night shift crew?

Big W
Big W
5 years ago

Hey Grey,

So Villar hit .298 in the first half and .270 in the second half… Why do you not believe? Why will he hit .257 in 2017?

Every year in my keeper, average has plagued my team. This off season I decided to make a culture change… traded away Frazier and other low average guys and acquired Villar, JD Martinez, etc. I was feeling pretty good about potential average for my team and now I’m not feeling so good after seeing your .257 Villar projection. There’s still time though… I can trade him. He has lot’s of value to my league mates.

– Paranoid Big W

Big W
Big W
Reply to  Grey
5 years ago

@Grey: Well I guess I’ll have to hope for another lucky season. I guess it’s not the end of the world if he will be my only .250 hitter… at least it’s not .220.

Thanks for the logical explanation Grey.

Copperhead Road
Copperhead Road
5 years ago

Great post, Grey. I’ve been waiting for this one. So many questions with these guys, as you say. Here’s mine. A keeper one:
WWGD?- What Would Grey Do?
Context- I plan on Beltre at 3rd (or at least until THOSE rankings come out!), Machado at SS. I have lots of power with other keepers but it’s always nice to have more.
Would you rather play:
a) Turner at 2b, Segura ($3) at MI, OZUNA ($4) OF
b) Turner in OF, Schoop ($5 ) at 2b, Segura at MI and drop OZUNA
c) I guess there is no C
I kinda like Segura at the price and could use steals so I think I know what your going to say. But still would like your opinion on who the better keeper is for the price- Segura, Schoop, OZUNA.
As always, Thanks.

Copperhead Road
Copperhead Road
Reply to  Grey
5 years ago

@Grey: Thanks. That’s what I was thinking too.

JoeG414
JoeG414
5 years ago

One of your boldest projections is that Cano gets 2SB

Digger Phelps
Digger Phelps
5 years ago

Grey – Before you get inundated with “this guy or this guy” questions you have to answer in a vacuum (if you haven’t already started), I just want to thank you for the work you do on these rankings. I was mediocre at best in fantasy Bball until stumbling upon your site and am now consistently competing for the ‘ship. Specifically, the pitcher rankings have helped me hit on a lot of under the radar guys, so I look forward to reading those each year. I’m sure I speak for all the readers when I say we appreciate the quality rankings blended with a sense of humor. Selfishly I just hope my league mates also don’t find the site! Cheers brotha and keep up the good work.

-DP

Digger Phelps
Digger Phelps
Reply to  Digger Phelps
5 years ago

@Digger Phelps: I forgot I actually did have a random question: Have you or Rudy done any analysis on the accuracy of the stream-o-nator or hittertron compared to other sites? For example, comparing the weekly pitching rankings you have to that of ESPN’s “fantasy forecaster” or something like that. Not to call out another site or anything, just out of curiosity.

Jason
Jason
5 years ago

Morning Grey,

Which player would you want in a “keep forever” keeper league?

Hamels, Trumbo or K.Davis

It’s a deep 12-team H2H league.
Hitting categories are: R H HR RBI SB K(against) BB TB AVG OPS
Pitching categories are: IP K/9 K/BB W QS ERA WHIP HR(against)

Jason
Jason
Reply to  Grey
5 years ago

@Grey:
Is Hamels too much to give for Trumbo straight-up or it’s fair?

Count de Monetball
Count de Monetball
5 years ago

Sensory overload! So many keystones to chose from! That is the 2nd longest post ever! (See yesterday for the longest)! I’m intrigued on how these guys are going to shake out in the overall rankings; liking schoop this year again too!

As a thank you Grey, let me write your entire post for Monday for SS except for the lede, uh umm, here goes:

#. PLAYER NAME – I went over him in the top 20 2nd basemen for 2017 fantasy baseball

Have a great weekend!

Andrew
Andrew
5 years ago

Dynasty league. Who would you rather have going forward, Murphy or Dozier?

Nick
Nick
5 years ago

Hey Moustache ,

welcome back for a 2017 baseball season

thanks for your early rankings ,,,
can’t wait for all of them cause …

here is how my keeper team is set for now: (14keepers)(25players /team)
Top of the Pop:
1B Golschmidt #1 Encarnacion #5
2B Altuve #1 Trea #2
OF Springer Desmond top20 +Myers

Rest of consideration :
C Contreras #4
3B Carpenter (#10)
OF Trumbo -Bautista – KDavis (#20-30 OF)
SP Archer (#12)Salazar (#30)
RP KJansen #1

Bubble:
SP RHill – AReyes – McHugh
RP CAllen – Dyson – Oh

NO keepers:
Lamb
Taillon Lugo Cotton

Nick the French Stick

Joey
Joey
Reply to  Nick
5 years ago

@Nick: taillon isn’t in consideration over hill or mchugh? Or Reyes for that matter

Duda Want to Build a Snowman?
Duda Want to Build a Snowman?
5 years ago

Loving the continued Schoop love. If you could keep him at $5 does he beat a $6 Khris for your final keeper spot? (Other keepers are Rizzo Betts Story Dahl Moncada Kershaw in a 5 outfield league).

Surprised you’re not on the Villar train as much, but I agree he’s more like the guy you described (not a 62 sb nearly 20 hr guy). That being said, I think Villar gets a big boost in OBP leagues thanks to his walk rate . . . if you compare his stats to say, Trea Turner, replacing AVG with OBP, they start to look more like twins.

Also like the DJL piece . . . those projections look a lot like 2015 Brantley (minus some counting stats), no?

Cram It
Cram It
Reply to  Duda Want to Build a Snowman?
5 years ago

@Duda Want to Build a Snowman?: You come up with some weird player comps, brah. Looks like 2015 Brandon Phillips with a higher avg! ;)

Cram It
Cram It
Reply to  Cram It
5 years ago

@Cram It: 2016. Well, 2015 with less steals. Ah screw it.

Duda Want to Build a Snowman?
Duda Want to Build a Snowman?
Reply to  Cram It
5 years ago

@Cram It: Ha! Yeah couldn’t tell you why! Now it’s a joke, but for a while I literally couldn’t stop comparing people to Todd Frazier . . . who honestly is probably the LEAST like any other player out there.

Anyway, the Brantley one was definitely not so subtlety motivated by the fact that I’m one of those masochists who hasn’t had Brantley since the year Razz called his breakout . . . but for some reason am interested again now that his shoulder hit a landmine.

Duda Want to Build a Snowman?
Duda Want to Build a Snowman?
Reply to  Grey
5 years ago

@Grey: Good call on the Frazier comp. Makes sense.

Robert
Robert
Reply to  Grey
5 years ago

@Grey: He’s like Frazier in that he played in the Little League world series?

Robert
Robert
Reply to  Grey
5 years ago

@Grey: How else am I going to get 10 years ahead of the game in my dynasty league?

Joey
Joey
5 years ago

Hey grey I’m in a 12 team dynasty league keep 20 with total rosters of 35. We are able to trade our entire team of 35 all off season until we lock in our keepers a few weeks before the draft. I was hoping to get your opinion on my team and where to improve. I traded my depth this offseason for stars…cause it’s fun, really. I traded for sale correa sanchez and odor this off season so far. This would be my 20 keepers if I locked them today. Thank you in advance.

1b. Rizzo
2b. Odor
SS. Correa
3b. Machado
C. Gary Sanchez
OF. Mookie Betts
OF. Adam Eaton
OF. Empty
Util. Daniel Murphy
Util. Empty
NA. JP Crawford
NA. Brendan Rodgers
NA. Victor Robles

SP. Chris sale
SP. Carlos carrasco
SP. Julio Teheran
SP. Anthony desclafani
SP. Vincent Velasquez
SP. Jose de Leon
SP. Jose berrios
RP. AJ Ramos
RP. Sam dyson

I can keep Dillon Tate, nick Williams, or Chris carter over Sam dyson if you advise it.

I also have 4 first round draft picks including first overall, 3 second rounders and 2 third rounders. Thanks, you’re the man

Joey
Joey
Reply to  Grey
5 years ago

@Grey: I moved Daniel Murphy for giolito Gallo and Austin meadows. I can re draft murphys numbers I think. What do you think of the players I received for him

Grey kissed my girlfriend!
Grey kissed my girlfriend!
5 years ago

In a 20 team league it seems reasonable to punt 2nd base. I’m ok with grabbing the 30th 2b and maybe even my MI beyond that. Go big elsewhere… disagree?

Duda Want to Build a Snowman?
Duda Want to Build a Snowman?
Reply to  Grey kissed my girlfriend!
5 years ago

@Grey kissed my girlfriend!: I could see it – though if you’re punting I’d maybe aim for a decidedly boring / average guy who won’t F up you’re stats . . . like Forsythe / Solarte type, rather than a boom/bust pick. Schimpf and part time guys are interesting, but could really hurt if they don’t pan out and, in a 20 team league, I can only imagine what the wire looks like if you needed to find a replacement!

Christian Herman
Christian Herman
5 years ago

Benintendi or Mazara?
Bret Hart or Triple H