“Wahhhhhh, Shane Greene doesn’t strike anyone out, he’s useless, wahhhhhh!”  That’s Sky on the Podcast a few hours ago…  “The Fifth Element sucked!”  That’s Grey before I socked him!

Since my initial ranks in February, I’ve been a Greene champion.  In my blurb, I mention a high K-rate finish to 2014 (52:16 K:BB his last 41.1 innings), along with an unlucky 2014 BABIP (.330).  The starts I saw from him last year had me encouraged with his stuff, plus the move to a much better pitcher’s park in Comerica had me “thrilled”.

But even with the rank looking spiffy and everything going right, the low K-rate does seem a little concerning.  He’s turning into Rick Porcello, noooooooo!  While his ERA and WHIP (along with 3 wins) are all change-your-pants worthy, he’s got a measly 11:5 K:BB in 23 innings.  Regression is screaming like Ruby Rhod after he counted ten!  I of course hope not since he’s on all my teams, and watching him so far this year in my normal bouncing-around-through-all-the-games he looks like a strong strikeout capable guy.  So I decided to watch his start yesterday hosting the White Sox, and give it the ol’ full attention and Pitcher Profile treatment.  Here’s how he looked:

First Inning: Fresh off two fantastic outings, Greene starts Adam Eaton with a fastball way outside for ball one.  The wind is really whisping around, as you can see in everyone’s uniforms.  Another fastball is outside, and man, Greene kinda does look like Rick Porcello out there!  Skinny, fairly tall and with similar mechanics.  Fastball again, this time at 92 MPH is inside, and it’s a quick 3-0 count.  Greene fits a fastball in there, 91 MPH on the inside edge makes it full, fastball is fouled off, then 92 MPH almost perfectly on the inside black is taken, but it’s ball four.  Very very close, but Greene dug himself that hole.  After only 2 walks his first 2 starts, leadoff walk in this one and up is Melky Cabrera who takes a fastball outside.  Ruh roh.  Change-up flutters outside, and now back-to-back 2-0 counts.  91 MPH fastball is grooved in there, change-up inside is ripped foul, then a fastball is popped up, but it has some good carry in that wind and is caught in fairly deep left center.  Wind is certainly a factor today.  Fastball at 92 MPH barely sinks low to the dangerous Jose Abreu, and Abreu has to call time with the wind kicking up some dirt in his face.  Crazy.  Then whew-ie!  There’s that cutter/slider/whatever at 86 with great tight movement getting Abreu to flinch making it 1-1:

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First of those we’ve seen, and that’s the money maker right there.  Fastball is rolled over foul, another 92 MPH heater gets on Abreu’s hands and is slashed foul, then a hanging change-up is flared to right, and J.D. Martinez catches it on the run and throws to first with nobody home for a double play.  No idea what Eaton was thinking about there, that wasn’t even too hard a catch!  Maybe the wind kept the ball lofted more than he thought, I don’t know…  Either way, inning is over, and after some control issues early, Greene is out of it.

Second Inning: Greene picks up a grand slam worth of support, and opens the second with a fastball hitting the outside corner on Adam LaRoche, 0-1.  Jose Quintana threw a whopping 42 pitches in the bottom of the first, so Greene’s been sitting a while.  Change-up is outside, then a fastball on the outside corner is shot to left for a leadoff single.  Not a terrible pitch there, but was pretty hittable.  Back-to-back innings with the leadoff man on, and Avisail Garcia fouls off a fastball, 0-1.  Fastball again fouled down the third base line, slider is hug a bit in the middle of the zone but Garcia is late on it and fouls it off, then an even slower slider is rolled over it first, and Miguel Cabrera steps on the bag and gets the throw to second in time to tag out Laroche for the double play.  Nice fielding there, but a great pitch to induce the weak groundout.  First pitch to Conor Gillaspie is bunted foul third base side as he was hoping to beat the shift, but it’s 0-1.  Fastball outside, then a great change-up on the outer half is rolled over to first weakly as well for another easy groundout, inning over.

Third Inning: Up 5-0 now, Greene starts Alexei Ramirez with a beautiful sinking fastball at 92 MPH, 0-1.  Then Greene works the top edge of the zone with a two-seamer, and Alexei tops it for an easy groundout.  Greene looking a lot more locked in now, helps to have that Tigers offense on your side!  Again pounding the zone with the fastball at 92, 0-1 to Tyler Flowers, slider is outside, then a ridiculous 92 MPH two-seamer zips into the outside corner, 1-2:

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Along with that slider/cutter, that’s some crazy movement left and right.  And he goes right to that slider, but it’s a tad high and outside, fastball at 93 MPH is on the hands but fouled back, 93 again is just outside, full count.  And he sticks with the cutter at 86 MPH that gets Flowers way in front for an infield popup.  Great mix of speeds, hitting 93 twice and Flowers was expecting gas again.  First pitch to Micah Johnson is a fastball on the outside edge that he slaps to left for a single.  Lefties might be able to hit those easy fastballs.  Back to the top and Eaton takes ball one, slider is in there, two-seamer almost gets the inside edge on him 2-1, 92 MPH four-seamer is slashed foul, 2-2.  Greene takes a few checks on Johnson, then a hanging slider is high and Johnson steals second.  But it doesn’t hurt him as a fastball on the outside corner is grounded to second, inning over.

Fourth Inning: The onslaught continues with the Tigers now up 7-0, and Greene gets a fastball in there to Melky, 0-1.  But another fastball is popped up to center and it drops quickly for a bloop single.  Lucky hit there, but as soon as it happens it’s erased with a first-pitch tailor-made groundball from Jose Abreu to get two outs.  Nice two-seam action for the double play  LaRoche takes strike one, then another cutter/slider moves just enough to hit the outside edge at 86 MPH, 0-2:

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Then right after that beaut, Greene climbs the ladder with 93 MPH cheese and LaRoche swings right through it:

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That sequence right there is why I think some Ks will start flooding in, given it’s only his first strikeout on the day.

Fifth Inning: With his 50th pitch to open the inning, Garcia hacks at a slider that moved off the edge, then he fouls off another one a little lower to get Greene quickly ahead 0-2.  Greene tries that high fastball again but it’s taken, fastball on the hands is fouled off, then he goes legit slider at 78 – that one looks like more of your standard slider – and it’s swung through and missed for back-to-back Ks.  And now just unloading the full arsenal with a perfect first-pitch change-up to Gillaspie for strike one, fastball at 92 is fouled off – 40 strikes to 16 balls right now, and that includes a leadoff walk to start the game!  0-2 is a slider on the inside edge and it’s grounded out weakly to second, two outs.  That same two seamer as the GIF above gets strike one on Alexei, slider breaks just off the outside, then a massive slider goes straight down at 87 MPH for a whiff, 1-2.  Man, the variants of the slider/cutter go from 78-87!  Perfect low and outside fastball at 93 is barely tipped foul, slider goes in the dirt, slider again breaks outside, and the payoff pitch is another slider that is too far outside for a walk.  Well, as soon as I got all giddy he threw three straight balls…  And keeping with the theme of the outing, the small mistake is very quickly erased with a first-pitch two-seamer hit to short by Flowers to end the inning on another groundout.

Sixth Inning: Sheesh, now up 9-0, Greene can cruise into a W and starts the 6th with a fastball in there to Micah, change-up flutters outside, same pitch fades well off the plate, two-seamer is slashed foul, then a hanging slider or change-up that stayed high in the zone is cut through and missed, 3rd K on the day gets the first out.  But that wasn’t a quality K…  First pitch to Eaton is a slider at 83 and he pops it up foul on the third base side for the second out.  Mowing em down!  Greene tries what I think is his first curveball on the day and it’s way outside, fastball is in there to Melky, slider outside, then a 92 MPH fastball on the outside edge is hit up the middle for a single.  Ya know, all 4 hits to this point have been lefties hitting fastballs on the outside half…  Interesting…  Anyway, great slider is in there for strike one on Abreu at 85 MPH, slider again is outside, high two-seamer is fouled back, 1-2 slider is in the dirt, then Abreu fouls a two-seamer breaking into the hands off his thigh, and it remains a painful 2-2.  Abreu walks it off and Greene gives him no breaks with another two-seamer and Abreu fouls it off his foot.  Damn, Abreu is gonna be sore…  Fastball again is hit foul first base side, then a 92 MPH four-seamer on the outside edge is hit well to right, and J.D. Martinez alligator-arms it and and just whiffs catching it and it rolls to the wall.  Man, where’s the effort?!  I guess up 9-0, J.D. was like, “naw, not going all out for this one.”  It’s scored a triple for Abreu and Melky scores, breaking Shane Greene’s 0 ER streak (21.2 IP) to start the year.  But that should really be a single and an error, J.D. at least should’ve played the hop instead of nonchalantly going for it and reaching out.  CAN YOU SENSE THE FRUSTRATION?!  Anyway, fastball low is sliced foul by LaRoche, slider breaks low, change-up floats outside, then a good sinking fastball is rolled over to second for an easy groundout to end the inning.  Lame, lame, lame ER on the board…

Seventh Inning: At 87 pitches, Greene comes out for likely his final inning and throws a slow slider at 76 MPH to get strike one on Garcia.  That’s now a 76-87 MPH range on his sliders/cutters, pretty cool to see.  Slider is low, then a nasty two-seamer buries into the low and inside corner for a whiff, 1-2.  Greene misses low, slider off the outside edge is tapped foul, fastball on the hands almost ties Avisail up, but he’s able to check it, 3-2.  Then fastball is too high and tight for a walk.  Blah.  And the first pitch to Gillaspie is a high fastball that’s hit weakly to second and gets an easy double play.  Gillaspie definitely dropped a loud expletive when he hit that one!  That double-play just had the Tigers broadcasters comparing Greene to Porcello as well…  Me no likey!  Two down, and an 82 MPH change-up goes low, 1-0.  Hasn’t found that pitch today.  Two-seamer goes too inside on Alexei, fastball is high, 3-0.  A little fatigued.  Two-seamer zips in there, but again a two-seamer breaks too far iniside for Greene’s 4th walk.  Don’t like seeing that.  Cutter at 88 MPH barely misses outside to Flowers, but that two-seamer has been working and breaks on Flowers’ hands for yet another easy groundout to end the inning.  And that will end Greene’s outing in a perfect microcosm inning – any time he had the slightest bit of trouble, he was able to induce an easy groundball.

Final Line:  W  7.0 IP  102 Pitches (65 Strikes)  1 ER  5 Hits  4 Walks  3 K  Gamescore: 62  Gamescore+: 61.8

Final Analysis: Hah, well a little interesting that the first two Pitcher Profiles this season had pitchers get game scores of 62…  Not surprisingly, Carlos Martinez outperformed Greene in the Gamescore+ calculation due to the higher strikeouts.  That said, Gamescore+ scores usually are much lower than the true Gamescore in low-K outings, and Greene kept pace.  The reason?  Tons of weakly hit outs, and all of his hits given up were singles.  Well Abreu got a triple, but it was due to garbage outfield play.  Greene didn’t get hit hard at all the entire afternoon.

Greene starts it off with a four-seam/two-seam mix that topped out at 93 MPH like that high heat K to LaRoche.  The two-seamer had great run on it that he could use on both sides of the plate.  But the bread and butter is the slider and the variants.  When it was at 85-87 it looked more like a cutter, but he could throw them slower all the way to the 77-78 range for a little more break.  Fangraphs indeed has them broken down as separate pitches – cutter vs. slider – but they were similar enough in break that I didn’t differentiate above.  The only pitch that was a disappointment to me in this start was the change-up.  It was floated out there he was developing the pitch in Spring, and through three starts he’s used it 12% of the time.  In this one, it had ridiculous movement almost like a power knuckleball, yet lacking control.  If he can find that pitch and get it a little closer to the zone, he’s going to be even harder to hit.

Nothing I saw Sunday afternoon has deterred me on my Greene love.  I know the low strikeouts might be concerning, but he struck out 9.27 per 9 last year with it at 4.30 this year.  There’s going to be a happy medium.  While he’s faced some garbage offenses, MIN, PIT and CWS rank 16, 11, and 28th in team strikeouts thus far on the young season.  It’s not that telling of a stat, but enough of a reason not to panic at the anemic rate.  I think he’s going to be more a 7-7.5 K/9 guy, and if he maintains his control and the ability to induce groundballs, a fantastic ERA and WHIP to follow.  He’s been too good not to be a must-own already – I might not try to buy him in trades, the sell-high value makes it uneconomical, but I’m all-in.

Razzball Baseball

JB’s Updated Top 100 SP

(rankings based on 12-team Roto, green for risers, red for fallers)

RANK SP, Team
1 Clayton Kershaw, LAD
2 Chris Sale, CWS
3 Felix Hernandez, SEA
4 Max Scherzer, WAS
5 Corey Kluber, CLE
6 David Price, DET
7 Madison Bumgarner, SF
8 Stephen Strasburg, WAS
9 Matt Harvey, NYM
10 Johnny Cueto, CIN
11 Jake Arrieta, CHC
12 Zack Greinke, LAD
13 Jordan Zimmermann, WAS
14 Cole Hamels, PHI
15 Carlos Carrasco, CLE
16 Garrett Richards, LAA
17 Gerrit Cole, PIT
18 Jeff Samardzija, CWS
19 Alex Wood, ATL
20 Jacob deGrom, NYM
21 Collin McHugh, HOU
22 Julio Teheran, ATL
23 Tyson Ross, SD
24 Masahiro Tanaka, NYY
25 Dallas Keuchel, HOU
26 Adam Wainwright, STL
27 Yordano Ventura, KC
28 Sonny Gray, OAK
29 James Shields, SD
30 Jon Lester, CHC
31 Scott Kazmir, OAK
32 Michael Pineda, NYY
33 Alex Cobb, TB
34 Chris Archer, TB
35 Shane Greene, DET
36 James Paxton, SEA
37 Brandon McCarthy, LAD
38 Phil Hughes, MIN
39 Lance Lynn, STL
40 Matt Shoemaker, LAA
41 Anibal Sanchez, DET
42 Hisashi Iwakuma, SEA
43 Gio Gonzalez, WAS
44 Jake Odorizzi, TB
45 Homer Bailey, CIN
46 Danny Salazar, CLE
47 Michael Wacha, STL
48 Francisco Liriano, PIT
49 Drew Smyly, TB
50 Carlos Martinez, STL
51 Trevor Bauer, CLE
52 Doug Fister, WAS
53 Mike Fiers, MIL
54 Andrew Cashner, SD
55 Jered Weaver, LAA
56 Archie Bradley, ARI
57 Jimmy Nelson, MIL
58 Jason Hammel, CHC
59 Jose Quintana, CWS
60 J.A. Happ, SEA
61 Mike Leake, CIN
62 Drew Hutchison, TOR
63 Drew Pomeranz, OAK
64 Mat Latos, MIA
65 Kyle Hendricks, CHC
66 Anthony DeSclafani, CIN
67 Kyle Lohse, MIL
68 Chase Anderson, ARI
69 A.J. Burnett, PIT
70 Ian Kennedy, SD
71 Hyun-Jin Ryu, LAD
72 Edinson Volquez, KC
73 Wily Peralta, MIL
74 Chris Tillman, BAL
75 Jesse Hahn, OAK
76 Jake Peavy, SF
77 Mike Minor, ATL
78 Jose Fernandez, MIA
79 CC Sabathia, NYY
80 Noah Syndergaard, NYM
81 Shelby Miller, ATL
82 Danny Duffy, KC
83 John Lackey, STL
84 Daniel Norris, TOR
85 Justin Verlander, DET
86 Tim Hudson, SF
87 Aaron Sanchez, TOR
88 R.A. Dickey, TOR
89 Matt Garza, MIL
90 Taijuan Walker, SEA
91 Rick Porcello, BOS
92 Rubby De La Rosa, ARI
93 Kyle Gibson, MIN
94 Jon Niese, NYM
95 Nathan Eovaldi, NYY
96 Carlos Rodon, CWS
97 Kevin Gausman, BAL
98 Aaron Harang, PHI
99 Chris Heston, SF
100 Brandon Morrow, SD

Dropped Out: Tom Koehler, MIA (meh), Zach McAllister, CLE (bullpen), Wei-Yin Chen, BAL (meh), Clay Buchholz, BOS (just so hard to suffer through the bad games), Kendall Graveman, OAK (might be able to get it back together tonight)

  • Well, McHugh sure alleviated any concerns I had!  11 Ks to 0 BB in 5.2 innings against the usually patient A’s.  Mighty encouraging, but it’s not like I dropped him 10 spots or anything, just a teensy bit of jostling amongst the 20s.
  • Jon Lester and that base stealing issue…  More like Lester and that not being very good issue!  Yikes I over-ranked him coming into the year, dead arm issues at the end of Spring and base runners bothering him…  No bueno.
  • I know, I know.  Here comes all the Paxton stuff…  Unfortunately I didn’t watch his game since I was in Shane Greene-land (owned by Denmark!), but that blowup 3rd inning started with an infield single, error, single, infield single, groundout, single, fielder’s choice.  Then a few extra base hits chased him, with the error making most of the runs unearned.  I might go back and watch what happened (Rotoworld claimed his velo was down), but two infield singles and an error?!  Rattled poor Pax’s cage.  No way I’m giving up yet, and don’t forget Paxton didn’t have almost any Spring Training keeping me from being discouraged by a slow start.  And the next two starts are hosting the Twins then at Houston…  However, I have enough insecurity to ease off even though I’m nowhere near dropping him off my teams.
  • Man, Danny Salazar looked goooooood.  Nice velo, good control, he gets a big boost back on the board now that he’s up and up to stay.
  • Another young arm, Archie Bradley has some great numbers and his fastball has ridiculous movement.  Easy to see why he has control problems.  That said, very encouraging start.
  • Starting to buy in on the Anthony DeSclafani bandwagon a little bit.  Might as well take his upside over the glut of meh once you get into the 60s-70s.
  • Carlos Rodon is getting called up today, but to join the bullpen.  Like Gausman, he remains in the ranks for the upside to move into the rotation, even though we don’t know when/if either will make it.
  • Really struggled at the bottom.  I have a few guys just out like Bartolo Colon and Alfredo Simon since they offer little upside (remember these are 12-team ranks, both would be ranked a little higher for consistency if these were deeper-league ranks), and big unknowns like Nick Martinez, who is probably just like them with low Ks.  Once I get about halfway through, I could tinker endlessly with these guys… Most are in the streaming class and worth looking at the next few matchups rather than ROS value.

Am I too Super Greene?!  Or is Grey right to hate The Fifth Element…  I mean, Leeloo Dallas, multi-pass, amiright?!  Shoot your thoughts below, and may your ratios be thinner than Chris Tucker in drag clothes!

 
  1. Grey

    Grey says:
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    Did you GIF every one of his Ks? Asking for a friend.

    • JB Gilpin

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      @Grey: I think only one of those was a K! Hah

  2. Quimmy says:
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    just flipped Greene for Billy Hamilton and Jesse Hahn. The hype on this guy is getting a little crazy.

    • JB Gilpin

      JB Gilpin says:
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      @Quimmy: Oh pssshhh yeah for sure, easily would do that in a heartbeat too

  3. JimmyBond says:
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    Salazar over CMart in a points league, for the K’s? Or fairly neutral?

    • JB Gilpin

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      @JimmyBond: Pretty close, depends on how you can use SP/RP eligible guys. If you can slot CMart in a RP spot I might prefer him if it’s one of those weekly lock leagues

  4. Thomas says:
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    If you don’t love Fifth Element, you are dead to me. One of the best movie villains ever.

    • JB Gilpin

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      @Thomas: Exactly how I feel about Grey’s choice in movies… I AM VERY DISAPPOINTED!

  5. J-FOH says:
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    You wrote a post about Greene on 4/20 and didn’t make the link?

    and why no love for Shields?

    • JB Gilpin

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      @J-FOH: Haha we saved the 4/20 joke for Tim Lincecum on the pod :)

      29 isn’t enough love? Low K rate concern in big innings is my only real knock, with these ranks assuming 12 team roto and innings or starts limits, and I think these high Ks early are a little fluky, I mean 3 were on hack-happy first game Bryant haha

      • J-FOH says:
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        @JB Gilpin: I’m just trying to justify him as my ace in the Perts league, I like the move to San Diego this year and not just because of the park. Buddy Black is the pitcher whisperer

        • JB Gilpin

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          @J-FOH: Bud is pretty whisper-y… I’ve seen Shields even lower in some places, but maybe in the NL he does resurrect the Ks. Hey, I’ve got some pitching in the Perts league!

          • J-FOH

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            @JB Gilpin: and nothing else. Hey I went and drafted Braun so I have my own issues.

            • JB Gilpin

              JB Gilpin says:
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              @J-FOH: Well Grey loves to slam my power, Chris Carter will still hit 30 at some point. Might all be in a week, but ya know…

  6. Betts by Dre says:
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    why is Paxton so high? Should be 75ish

    • JB Gilpin

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      @Betts by Dre: In the notes below the ranks I talk about why I am maintaining my high rank

  7. Neil says:
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    Who would you rather take Soler or Lester? Also, Grey’s mustache is a bit less glorious after finding out he doesn’t like the fifth element.
    I bet he’s not even human. He’s probably a meat popsicle.

    • JB Gilpin

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      @Neil: He is totally a meat popsicle! Going to call him that the rest of his life…

      Ummmm, Obviously a little need based, I’d probably take Soler

  8. Chris says:
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    Hello JB,

    I actually drafted Greene in Rd 19, out of 21, following your recommendations, and not regreting a thing!!!

    I’m looking to buy low Adrian Beltre.

    Which SP do you recomend to offer:
    Samardzijia, Wacha, Lynn, Archer.
    Or the duo: Bauer + Greene.

    What are yout thoughts on Beltre?

    Thanks for your comments.

    • Chris says:
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      @Chris: Hello JB,

      another scenario is that I can include Laroche with another SP for Beltre.

      • JB Gilpin

        JB Gilpin says:
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        @Chris: Awesome man, glad that one panned out! Paxton on the other hand… eesh…

        Of those scenarios, I like Lynn as a sell high. Usually has pretty good Aprils and I don’t think has a huge upside. Beltre’s definitely fading, I don’t think he gets to 25 homers, but he’s definitely not a .151 hitter either, I like buying low.

        Maybe try Lynn+LaRoche?

  9. Cram It says:
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    Nate Karns! 5 IP, 2 hits, 2 ER, (skims over BB line), 7 K’s! Nate Karns!

    • JB Gilpin

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      @Cram It: Hahahaha, I was gonna go straight to the walks. I’d think he’d hold on to the #5 spot when Smyly and Cobb come back, but ya never know there too. He is in my 5-6 guys at the bottom of my spreadsheet though, just missed

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        @JB Gilpin: Oooooh well that’s better than I thought. At least he’s on the spreadsheet. We’re getting there Nate, make me proud…

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          @Cram It: Hah, yeah in my horribly unorganized sheet I’ve got Colon, Simon, Martinez, Ubaldo, Miguel Gonzalez, Karns and C.J. Wilson. Murderer’s row of pitching right there!

  10. Scott says:
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    No drop for Anibal Sanchez after he stunk it up Saturday?

    • JB Gilpin

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      @Scott: Nah, ranks are for ROS so I try not to drop anyone too bad for one start unless I watch it closely and see a major issue. Still has a 17:4 K:BB and I think can get it back together

      • Scott says:
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        @JB Gilpin: True, I don’t want to overreact. Like the guy who dropped Phil Hughes in one league. I’ll be on the waiver for him.

        • JB Gilpin

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          @Scott: Oh for sure, I wasn’t too high on Hughes coming into the year, but certainly needs to be owned

  11. Jim says:
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    Any concerns about Jordan Zimmermann?
    Do you see a reason for the start he has had?

    • JB Gilpin

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      @Jim: Well, only concern really is the defense behind him has been atrocious. I think he’ll be fine, he’s at 50% left on base! That’s an absurd number haha. Velo is a tad low, but it’s early, yet if it doesn’t pick up in a few more weeks, I’ll start sounding the alarms

  12. Greyismyhero says:
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    FAAB bid on Rondo??? …$100 in bank… Thanks

    • JB Gilpin

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      @Greyismyhero: Rajon Rondo?! Haha. Ummm, I wouldn’t go too high, Grey seems to like him a lot, even with the pedigree I can’t see spending too much on a reliever (obviously he could be a starter at some point, but who knows, might stick in relief)

  13. scottsteelers says:
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    Yesssss. Love this! So as of right now this is my rotation. Scherzer, J zimm, Carrasco, shane greene, Shelby miller, Salazar, Pomeranz, Hammel. Right now I have 2 different possible trades. I have mccutch who I’m fearful of this year. So I trade mccutch for Harvey who is a 16th or 17th rd keeper I can’t remember. Or mccutch for dickerson+wacha. My 3 OF spots and Util are occupied by Mookie (who made the move to OF after I scooped Devon Travis) Puig, Mccutch then either r zimmerman or Pollock at Util. I have Pence coming off the DL in a week or 2 as well. Which trade, or stay where I’m at?? 12 team H2H keeper league. Thanks dude!

    • scottsteelers says:
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      @scottsteelers: mccutcg would be a 4th rd keeper next season as well. Forgot to include his value. I’ve been trying to trade him for 2 years now, even as a Pirates fan. Ha

      • JB Gilpin

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        @scottsteelers: Nice! Man, money pitching for sure. Man, I don’t think I would lose McCutchen at that value and you def don’t need more pitching. I think you gotta stay and just ride those arms that elite outfield, can’t imagine you having much trouble being at the top!

        • scottsteelers says:
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          @JB Gilpin: yea I know… haha. I just fear mccutch legs won’t be under him all season. Word on these Bradenton streets is that mccutch knows he needs a procedure done on his knee but is going to play through it… that could end very poorly. Or he could be a god damn MVP. Haha

          • JB Gilpin

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            @scottsteelers: Yeah the knee stuff is a concern, he’s just sooooooo good. Man he destroys my brewers… haha

  14. Gonzo_The_Great says:
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    Any thoughts on the epic tire-fire that used to be called “T.J. House” ?

    I’m kind of shocked at his epic collapse in his first two starts. I can’t imagine he’s got much leeway given their pitching situation.

    • JB Gilpin

      JB Gilpin says:
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      @Gonzo_The_Great: Yeah I wasn’t a big fan this year at all, never had him ranked, and his good numbers to finish 2014 were vs. bad offenses. I think for now they want him in, but you’re right, McAllister could easily take his spot

  15. val says:
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    Wacha at #47? Really?

    • JB Gilpin

      JB Gilpin says:
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      @val: Worried about that shoulder thinking in ROS terms

      • val says:
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        @JB Gilpin: Homer Bailey, and Cobb carry as much of that risk and they are worse then Wacha when healthy

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          JB Gilpin says:
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          @val: Disagree, Wacha wasn’t nearly as good and struck no one out after his injury last year. He’s got 6 K in 13.1 innings this year. Bailey – sure they’re close I have them 2 apart, maybe I should indeed flip flop them back, but Cobb I think is a clear best of those 3

  16. Hood says:
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    I have The Fifth Element on DVD. Not Blueray or HD DVD. Just DVD.

    It’s a classic and it should be loved.

    Trade Altuve and C. Blackmon for Stanton and Lance Lynn?

    I say YES (I’d get the latter) since I can plug in Betts at 2B and have Jones/Upton/Stanton in my OF.

    • JB Gilpin

      JB Gilpin says:
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      @Hood: Haha nice! Better than VHS! I have the newer blu ray edition one, it’s solid…

      YES! Whoa, and even BIGGER YES with Betts able to go to 2B haha. Nice work!

  17. Scott says:
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    BTW, Grey is outta his mind if he hates the Fifth Element.

    • JB Gilpin

      JB Gilpin says:
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      @Scott: I know, right?! He needs to spend some time in Floston Paradise

      • SheriffMcRawDawg says:
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        @JB Gilpin: hahaha

  18. Frank White says:
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    Wutup JB… Who would you rather trade off, Ortiz or V-Mart??

    • JB Gilpin

      JB Gilpin says:
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      @Frank White: What’s good Frank? I think I’d rather sell Ortiz since his value is fine, Martinez you’d be selling so low that I’d rather try to wait it out

      • Frank White says:
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        I need Pitching bad in a pitcher friendly league.. I’m getting Salazar, Brett Anderson and Neil Walker for V Mart and Cobb.. I’m scared V’Mart’s knee is getting worse plus I have Ortiz at first to replace.. You like?

        • JB Gilpin

          JB Gilpin says:
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          @Frank White: Ugh, nah I think you gave up Vmart for too little. Plus Cobb will help your pitching when back, but I do like Salazar, maybe his upside comes together this year for ya

          • Frank White says:
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            Yeah I got screwed this year and this leagues pitching is 70% of the scoring in this league and I didn’t get the text of draft time so they auto picked all batters till the 9th round and gave me Frigen Hamels and Cobb as my aces!! I had Cobb the past 2 years and he was never really good and he’s on a crapy team.. If I lose V-mart to injury then I get nothing plus with no timetable on Cobb and my record 0-2 I need something going NOW.. V-Mart can end up only doing DH and pinch hit on NL fields. You feel me..?? Lol

            • JB Gilpin

              JB Gilpin says:
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              @Frank White: Wow, yeah that’s a crazy emphasis on pitching. Well he won’t be playing NL teams too often, makes me like it more knowing the league but I still think you coulda gotten more

  19. Chad says:
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    What overall rankings should I use for a Yahoo 5×5 Roto 12-team league tonight? Most of the links seem to be older, but seeing if I am overlooking a newer version. Thanks guys!

  20. Duda Want to Build a Snowman? says:
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    I was so excited about 5th that I forgot my question…

    With a very full OF (Springer, Marte, CarGo, Joc, Souza fighting for 3 spots). Particularly since this is an OBP league, I’m expecting Joc and Souz to be studs, so I’ve been looking to move CarGo, hopefully after he goes on a tear in COL this week.

    Who would you flip CarGo for in a straight 1:1 switch…I’ve been eyeing Samarjasldsldnvnijka, Zimmerman, or a similar ace with a rough start. Am I aiming too high? Maybe a better question is: who’s the worst SP on your rankings that you would trade him for?

    Thanks!

    • JB Gilpin

      JB Gilpin says:
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      @Duda Want to Build a Snowman?: Haha, I hear ya!

      Yup, great logic with Cargo. Def not too high at all! Actually i think Samardzija is a perfect line. Wood and deGrom I like a lot, but a decent dropoff there. ANy time man!

      • Duda Want to Build a Snowman? says:
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        @JB Gilpin: Great. I’m facing off against the Samardzija owner, so hopefully CarGo wallops him and Shark has another meh outing before a hit him with the offer…

  21. tyler says:
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    Great article JB. I have 5 starters in your top 25, but still feel like my pitching is shaky. Ross and A Wood seem off to me. Anyway, I really need saves and another owner wants my McHugh. Would you deal him for Uehara, A Miller, Otavino, F Rod, C Allen or some combination of 2 of them? Only have Perkins and Grilli. Thanks!

    • JB Gilpin

      JB Gilpin says:
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      @tyler: Thanks man! Yeah some early control issues for those two, but I don’t have any big concerns. Eeeesh, I love McHugh… Yeah I like trying to get 2. I’d shoot high, Allen+Uehera/Miller? Maybe Miller is worth avoiding since it could go back to Betances… So yeah, I’d be fine offering for Uehara and Allen. Any time!

  22. HighHeat says:
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    CMart or Pineda or Salazar. Need to drop one. Thanks!!

    • JB Gilpin

      JB Gilpin says:
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      @HighHeat: Ughhhhhhhh, Sophie’s Choice! I guess I’d have to lose Cmart but I really wouldn’t like it haha. Any time!

  23. C says:
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    Thanks for the great read, JB. I’m in a 12 team roto league that counts Holds, Net Saves, QS in addition to the regular stats. I’m currently in first for holds and middle of the pack for saves. We have five slots for RP – which 5 would you start:

    D. O’Day
    J. Smith
    K. Giles
    A. Ottavino
    H. Rondon
    D. Storen

    One other quick question – if you had to sell S. Gray, G. Cole, or J. deGrom (I also have J. Quintana, C. Archer and C. Rodon) to upgrade a bat, which would you try to unload?

    Thanks!

    • JB Gilpin

      JB Gilpin says:
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      @C: Thanks for reading man! I think I’m leaning Giles getting the sit. Phillies I think are the worst team of those guys’ respective teams, and he has some shaky control games here and there.

      Of those I’m probably selling Gray. He’s got good numbers but low Ks, which I think is a trend that people are overlooking.

      Any time!

  24. los locos says:
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    I see where you rank Fiers, but where do you gage him fantasy wise? The last 2 starts don’t look so good. The strike outs were there on the 1st start, but can’t get out the of the 5th. We are only in week 3 and SON liked him for the week, but I can’t go there yet. I stuck with Paxton in my lineup this week vs. Minn. My pitching is struggling this year.

    Guys like Bailey, Burnett and Colon remain on waivers… I feel bad that Timmy Jim is on waivers I feel like I need to own him.

    Do you see any moves that I should make?

    Week 3 starters:
    Clayton Kershaw SP | LAD
    Brandon McCarthy SP | LAD
    James Paxton SP | SEA
    Matt Shoemaker SP | LAA
    Stephen Strasburg SP | WAS
    Andrew Miller RP | NYY
    Adam Ottavino RP | COL

    Bench
    Trevor Bauer SP | CLE
    Mike Fiers SP | MIL
    Danny Salazar SP | CLE
    Yu Darvish SP | TEX —- DL (someone dropped i have a DL spot)

    • JB Gilpin

      JB Gilpin says:
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      @los locos: Yeah well in the Stl game he was pretty solid for a while. Agree I’d stick with Pax.

      Bailey I think I would take the gamble on over Fiers. Other than that I think I am holding tight, and you have a good staff! Obviously Kershaw is gonna be godly again

  25. AL KOHOLIC says:
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    Awesome job J.B im not in on the green train mainly because k,s are low so far,but i am all in on Rodon and Salazar

    • JB Gilpin

      JB Gilpin says:
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      @AL KOHOLIC: thanks man! Yeah I think Ks come though, I just am worried about Rodon ever getting to the starting rotation, we’ll see

      • RotoLance

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        @JB Gilpin: I am in agreement with Al on Green and Ks. Now I gotta decide if I want to drop Fiers for Greene or Bauer come FAAB day Friday… Honestly though I don’t need the Ks as I have an elite K club (although it’s H2H so more of something never hurts). It’s also QS and I bet you see Greene as better than both Fiers and Bauer in that category?

        • JB Gilpin

          JB Gilpin says:
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          @RotoLance: They’ll come back, not to like 9 per 9, but I think 7ish. Yeah I like Greene, agree only thing he will come short on compared to those 2 will be the ks. I don’t think I’d overpay, but worth a little bit of FAAB for sure

  26. Barrett Gilham says:
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    In a 12 team hth keeper league with 25 roster spots. Out of your top-100 list Rubby De La Rosa is the highest player available. Would you drop Mark Buehrle for him?

    Categories are W, K, ERA, WHIP, K/9, QS, SV+H.

    So far I am 0-2 in K, K/9 and QS.

    • JB Gilpin

      JB Gilpin says:
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      @Barrett Gilham: Oh definitely would, with both K and K/9 as stats. That’s going to be a forte for him

  27. Andre says:
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    Great write up!

    Quick question. I’m in a 7×7 league. Hits, Runs,HR, RBI, Avg, Steals, and Walks. Would you drop Daniel Murphy for Devon Travis for ROS?

    • JB Gilpin

      JB Gilpin says:
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      @Andre: Thanks man! Ummmm, yeah ya know what, I think I would

  28. Fungazi says:
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    Sit Paxton until he has a clean outing?

    • JB Gilpin

      JB Gilpin says:
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      @Fungazi: I’m playing him both of his next two starts – MIN and @HOU. If those go bad, we’ll certainly be readdressing haha

      • Fungazi says:
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        @JB Gilpin: I was hoping you saw his start, as he seemed extremely hittable, it wasn’t really control problems. Maybe he was tipping pitches or is hiding a small injury. Or maybe it was just bad luck.

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          @Fungazi: I’ve heard speculation he has dead arm which pitcher’s get mid-Spring training a lot and he missed almost all of Spring. Definitely hoping to see the next one.

  29. WalleyWorld says:
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    Awesome write up. I’m a big fan of Greene, so thanks for this!

    Trying to get Salazar in a trade and guy wants a 1b in return. I have rizzo and hosmer at my 1b/util slots. 16 teamer. I also have 1b eligible alvarez who looks to be having a nice turnaround. He wants hosmer straight up for Alvarez and I just can’t do it. I think I would consider a Salazar/odor for Alvarez trade, but even then I’m hesitant. I have middlebrooks backing up 3b slot. Thanks for any advice.

    • WalleyWorld says:
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      dynasty league btw

      • WalleyWorld says:
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        and wow I sure can’t type, he wants hosmer for Salazar straight up.

        • JB Gilpin

          JB Gilpin says:
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          @WalleyWorld: Hah sorry, I was mid response and got up. Hmmmm that’s close, Hosmer has been good… Hows your pitching depth? If it’s going pretty good I might indeed hold off, especially in a shallower league where bats really thin out

    • JB Gilpin

      JB Gilpin says:
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      @WalleyWorld: Thanks for reading man! I’m a little confused, so he has Alvarez and you’re trying to get him? I don’t think I’d do the Salzar one either… Middlebrooks+Odor? I don’t know if it’ll work, but might be worth a try

      • WalleyWorld says:
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        sprry about the confusion. I have Pedro Alvarez at my 3b slot with middlebrooks backing up. Was thinking about offering Alvarez for odor and Salazar. Is that a fair offer?

        • JB Gilpin

          JB Gilpin says:
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          @WalleyWorld: No worries I got ya now, yeah I think that’s totally fair, I would love getting Salazar at that price

  30. Dorian says:
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    Even with the low K totals, you know what Greene is rated in my league as? 8th.

    JB and gang, thank you as always for finding diamonds in the seas of roughness. I am enjoying each and every one of them.

    • JB Gilpin

      JB Gilpin says:
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      @Dorian: Yup, he’s been unreal! Thanks so much man, I find a few diamonds but there’s still some rough I thought were diamonds so far haha

  31. TarmanGotHim says:
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    JB!

    Yo!!

    Things are picking up. Teams are looking good.

    Question:

    Why do you have Kechuel and Fister so far apart? I feel that Fister is a bit undervalued. I eased McHugh and Keiuchel for Samardjia and Fister and I feel I won… If Samardjia can turn it around. He looked fresh in his last starts.

    I have Greene on 1 of 4 teams and pre season decided to drop him and not snag him in another, SMH. But I feel better because I do own him on one, lol.

    And I have a crush on Arrieta. HAHA. He really is a legit SP.

    I have Rodon in 1 league. Should I be excited?

    Non SP Q: I have an NA spot in a non Keeper and Rodon was taken so I picked up Buxton. Do you think he gets the call full time in June or is Addison the Better stash?

    Thank you.

    • TarmanGotHim says:
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      @TarmanGotHim: PS: Love your enthusiasm when you answer the fans questions. Kudos. Razzball is really the best!!

      • JB Gilpin

        JB Gilpin says:
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        @TarmanGotHim: Yo dude! Man that’s a close trade, I think I’m leaning liking it since Shark is my favorite. I think Keuchel has a little more K upside than Fister is my reasoning there. Wooooo, love Arrieta too man! Glad that high rank is looking good. I do like Rodon, I just don’t know when/if he cracks that rotation. I think Addison does more this year and could be playing 2nd base sooner rather than later, Buxton seems more Sept. callup to me.

        thanks so much man, we try! Appreciate ya stopping by!

        • TarmanGotHim says:
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          @JB Gilpin: Thank you. I think I’m gonna NA Addison. Thanks.

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            JB Gilpin says:
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            @TarmanGotHim: Sweet, any time!

  32. beanbag says:
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    Appreciate your write up, agree with the commenter above you’re too low on shields (I think everyone in the industry is!). I’m a homer as well since I’ve bought in, but this guys been pretty legit his whole career. His one “knock” is ks and he’s been serviceable in that. Alex wood (who I also own) just had a game with 0 (count them, none) and only 1/2 of a year to justify a top rank. You also took one year of Lester finding k’s from God knows where and had him real high to start the year… I’m obviously cherry picking here, and appreciate not just following the player rater for your ranks (e.g Trevor Bauer would be like 10th) but I think 30 is the lowest hed finish this year. So you’re ranking his floor, which is fine. I don’t propose he be top 15 or 10 but I think he deserves a bump to low 20’s at least. Watch and wait I guess! Thanks for the post.

    • JB Gilpin

      JB Gilpin says:
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      @beanbag: Starting with Lester, I think this is a rare case where the move to the NL HURTS him ya know… This base running issue… Sheesh. Well Wood wasn’t good just half of last year, it was almost the whole year (starting in rotation, dropped out for bullpen, then back again) and was fine in his cup of coffee in 2013. I don’t have any concerns yet. But you guys are selling me on Shields, might need to move him up :)

      • beanbag says:
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        @JB Gilpin: thats true, wood was pretty servicable all year. i owned lester last year too haha, got his career year and dumped him back to the draft in a keeper.

        shields is a boring guy for sure. but boring guys win you your leagues a lot of times.

        • JB Gilpin

          JB Gilpin says:
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          @beanbag: Nice on Lester! Yeah for sure the boring guys can win it, but his K rate was declining. Maybe in NL it will go back up a tad

  33. Chris says:
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    10 team H2H Points league where pitching is scarce. It’s scarce because pitching weighs very heavily. Archie Bradley is on waivers and I stand a chance of getting him. The bottom end of my staff is:
    Hughes
    Fiers
    Shoemaker
    Nelson
    C-Mart
    Salazar
    Are any of them worth dropping for Bradley? Hughes and Fiers have me skeptical. Your thoughts?

    Great write up by the way!

    • JB Gilpin

      JB Gilpin says:
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      @Chris: Nah I think I’d be standing pat, Hughes should turn it around and I’m still waiting for Fiers. Control issues for Bradley scare me. Thanks for reading!

  34. Shawn of the Living says:
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    Hey JB nice read!

    For me, Pax and Taijuan are similar. Bunch of talent, but not ready for the bigs. The hype will die a bit, and I’ll draft them real low next year and get some fantastic value when they breakout. Thats the plan at least! I dropped them in all leagues and no one has picked them up. That includes one RCL too.

    One of my more competitive leagues is a K/9 league so Greene’s value dives a bit there. I do like Greene, but I liked Porcello too! Eerie and possibly accurate comparison!

    I love the 5th Element!?!? WTF Grey!? Is Grey from New Jersey? That would somewhat explain things. Damn it Grey!

    • JB Gilpin

      JB Gilpin says:
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      @Shawn of the Living: Thanks man! Wow, I definitely think Pax is ready, just going through an extended Spring. Walker for sure could be a great value next year.

      Ugh, yeah K/9 def doesn’t help Greene. He throws harder and has better K stuff to me!

      Grey is just a flat out disappointment, as a person… Haha

  35. sImon says:
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    why Peavy so high ?

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      JB Gilpin says:
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      @sImon: Hoping the DL stint is only the 15 and post ASB last year he was money, hoping he can rekindle that Giants love

  36. nightpandas says:
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    JB, keeper league trade QS and k/9

    Braun/Cueto/Nelson

    vs

    Cain Sugar/Strasburg/Keuchel

    • nightpandas says:
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      @nightpandas: would you take the Cain side with Rodon instead of Nelson?

      • JB Gilpin

        JB Gilpin says:
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        @nightpandas: I think I still like Braun side, he’s the best in the deal and not like Cain is a youngun. Cueto more or less about equals Stras, I guess Stras has more upside. Damn, this is close I think it’s 50/50, Rodon makes me like Braun side def a tad more.

  37. ME says:
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    5×5 dynasty league.. Kole Calhoun for Phil Hughes. Which side do you take?

    • JB Gilpin

      JB Gilpin says:
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      @ME: I’d likely take Calhoun

  38. Gio says:
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    10 team keeper…

    Give Bumgarner for arietta and carasco?

    • JB Gilpin

      JB Gilpin says:
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      @Gio: Yes definitely!

  39. Eric B says:
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    Hey JB, thanks for the updated rankings, couple of questions for ya. New found love for Wainwright, I see you moved him up lol? I still own Norris and Walker, time to cut both or hold on? Also I know Haap was one of your sleepers(he;s still on waivers) still believe in him or have we seen the best we’re going to see? Mccarthy finally looked good and I also own Paxton but he’s gonna be better than this…right lol?

    • JB Gilpin

      JB Gilpin says:
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      @Eric B: Yeah he has looked pretty good, despite health concerns through Spring. Hah yeah Pax will be better and Happ will get some Ks coming. In 12ers Norris and Walker can def be let go for streaming

      • Eric B says:
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        @JB Gilpin: Thanks as always I was curious about waino, has looked decent despite not a ton of K’s. Guy just tried to offer me Puig and Waino for Stanton…am I crazy to say no?

        • Eric B says:
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          @Eric B: Or he will give me Carlos Gonzalez, Altuve and Waino for Stanton and Kipnis. Or Puig and Waino for Stanton alone> Either or neither lol?

          • CMUTimmah says:
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            @Eric B: Cargo, Altuve, Waino would be a good deal if you’re struggling with pitching and steals and don’t need Stanton’s power…

            3 players for one essentially…

      • Eric B says:
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        @JB Gilpin: Or he will give me Carlos Gonzalez, Altuve and Waino for Stanton and Kipnis. Or Puig and Waino for Stanton alone. Either or neither lol?

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          @Eric B: Hmmmm, yeah the Altuve one is close. Not loving the Puig one. Depends on how your pitching is looking, if it’s a solid staff and doing well I might hold off, but if it’s struggling I might take it

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            @JB Gilpin: Decent staff but not great:
            ( 5×5 HTH OBP league)
            Bats
            C McCann
            1B Freeman
            2B Kipnis
            3B Santana
            SS A.Ramirez
            OF Stanton
            OF Springer
            OF Soler
            OF Betts
            Util Pollock
            Util Avisail Garcia
            Util Lawrie
            Bench Semien
            Bench Addison Russell
            Bench Span
            DL C/DH Jaso

            Staff
            P Kluber
            P Odorizzi
            P Cole
            P Walker
            P Paxton
            SP Ventura
            SP S.Greene
            RP Chapman
            RP Britton
            Bench RP Perkins
            Bench SP McCarthy
            DL RP Parnell

            Just got another offer of Addison Russel for Calhoun and Salazar…like that one better? Or hold and strem the Walker spot?

            • JB Gilpin

              JB Gilpin says:
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              @Eric B: Whoa, yeah I would do that Russell one first, that’s a big overpay. Definitely the prospect buzz for that one!

              • Eric B says:
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                @JB Gilpin: Pulled the trigger on that one, too good to be true right lol? Dropped Walker to make room and of course he’s pitching better tonight hopefully Salazar pitches better. Based on that roster, adding Calhoun and Salazar in place of Russell and Walker do you accept any of the following proposals or hold tight:
                1. Puig and Waino for Stanton or
                2.Carlos Gomez and J.Nelson for Stanton or
                3. Altuve, Wainwright and Puig for Stanton, Kipnis and Span.

              • Eric B says:
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                @JB Gilpin: Actually that 3rd offer was canceled only 1st two apply.

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                  JB Gilpin says:
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                  @Eric B: Nice! Ugh, yeah that 3rd was my favorite. Not loving 2. 1 is the closest…. I think I’m gonna lean no but it’s very very very close

                  • Eric B says:
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                    @JB Gilpin: Yeah it was my favorite too but adding calhoun and Salazar isnt too bad a day imo. Thanks for the feedback JB. Do you like Span? Was thinking of trying to flip him for an arm(someone like Nelson maybe?) I actually toyed with dropping Span instead of Walker but decided against it. You think I’ll regret that decision and do I have enough pitching iyo?

                  • Eric B says:
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                    @JB Gilpin: Might could offer Span for CMart too, not sure the other owners like Span as much as I do though. You like either of thosed deals or hold onto Span? Ok thanks in advance, sorry for all the questions.

                    • JB Gilpin

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                      @Eric B: Hah not at all! I hope you had Kole in today! Helped my most important league…

                      Walker looked really good early on today, but no consistency. I’m not huge on Span, he’s a low-upside guy but consistent. Sure Cmart would be a solid offer, I don’t think I’d do Nelson though.

                      No worries, any time man!

  40. Allen says:
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    Would you take Samardzija and Belt for (my) Tanaka and Michael Taylor. 20 team H2H (8 player keeper) 4 OF, 1 UTIL spots. Scoring cats – AVG, R, SB, BB, HR, RBI, TB / ERA, WHIP, SV, HD, K, W, QS. Belt would just slot into my UTIL spot. My current OF are L. Martin, Pagan, Marisnick, Span, rotate Pillar and Cron (only has 1B eligibility) at my UTIL spot.

    • JB Gilpin

      JB Gilpin says:
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      @Allen: Eeesh that’s close. I think Tanaka’s injury risk with that elbow is enough for me to indeed take Shark side. In a 20 teamer, you can’t really bounce back if Tanaka goes TJ

      • Allen says:
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        @JB Gilpin:

        True. What kind of upside am I losing in Taylor though? I could possibly send him a message and see if he wants someone different.

        • JB Gilpin

          JB Gilpin says:
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          @Allen: 20/20 upside might indeed be there, but the average will struggle and he probably needs a different team or drastic changes to Nationals OF

  41. SheriffMcRawDawg says:
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    I mean Fifth Element basically made Gary Old’s career! #legend

    • JB Gilpin

      JB Gilpin says:
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      @SheriffMcRawDawg: Gary Oldman is so friggin good too! Such a legend

  42. Josh says:
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    Shoemaker was dropped after his bad start in my 12 teamer 5×5. What do I do? My staff looks like this:

    Stras
    Kluber
    Anibal Sanchez
    Odorizzi
    McCarthy
    Nelson
    Hughes
    Smyly
    Paxton
    Uehara
    Ottavino
    Grilli
    McGee (DL)

    • JB Gilpin

      JB Gilpin says:
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      @Josh: Ugh yeah it’s not encouraging… I know my ranks say otherwise but I think I’d just stand pat and watch from afar

  43. Franky G. says:
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    pick two devon travis, kolten wong, addison russell

    • Allen says:
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      @Franky G.:
      Wong, Russell

    • JB Gilpin

      JB Gilpin says:
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      @Franky G.: Yup agree, excited for Addison

  44. slimbo says:
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    What’s up

    So I need to take Russell off the na list and take homer bailey off the ir. Who is most droppable? Shoemaker, Pineda, Mccarthy, duda or travis? I could always just drop homer and then just cut one of the above guys?

    • JB Gilpin

      JB Gilpin says:
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      @slimbo: I think Shoemaker and Travis. I still think Homer is gonna do something, was hitting 95 in his return and I think is going to surprise

  45. ivebeenupthreedaysstraight says:
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    wait… haven’t even read the post yet, but grey hates the fifth element? that movie is like top-three space action movies of all time. do i need to start devoting more of my time to fangraphs?

    • JB Gilpin

      JB Gilpin says:
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      @ivebeenupthreedaysstraight: Haha, Grey’s poor choice in movies shouldn’t deter you from his usual good choices in baseball :)

  46. dninja82 says:
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    Got offered rizzo and souza for my bautista and russell. 20 teams keep 15. 5×5 h2h. Matt Adams and CJ cron are my 1b so somewhat of a need. My SS is andrus so it seems like I need a better alternative long term. What do you think?
    Thanks

    • JB Gilpin

      JB Gilpin says:
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      @dninja82: Hmmmmmm, that’s a close one… More youth coming your way, but sucks losing Russell. I’m leaning you should ask for a little bit more back, but it’s close

  47. Youth Movement says:
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    Welcome to the Desclafani train. I get that it was against less than good competition, and he’s only he’s under 7 k/9, but pitching to contacting seems to be working. His groundball rate is sustainable at 45% and if he can keep the gofer ball rate at 4, why not? I mean at least his K-rate is better than Greenes. Love the podcast by the way, especially how you guys sprinkle a little baseball in with the witty banter. The triumvirate this week was extra entertaining.

    • JB Gilpin

      JB Gilpin says:
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      @Youth Movement: Brewers line-up is about to be Phillies-worthy. Ugh. I obviously like Greene a good bit more, but DeScalafni did look good and I’m indeed on the train, might go up even more next week.

      Thanks man!

  48. David Brys says:
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    If fiers shits the bed today drop him for happ?

    • JB Gilpin

      JB Gilpin says:
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      @David Brys: Ehhhhh, depends on how the shit looks. If it’s one of those giant ones with low velocity (even for him) then I might, but if it’s just some unlucky leaky shit coming out, I might not. I’ll be watching! So can address it tonight haha

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        @JB Gilpin: Some pretty bad shit out there tonight

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          JB Gilpin says:
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          @Thomas Mancini: Velo was back (for him) but had nothing with the breaking pitches. He can go for Happ and/or streaming

  49. GleamTeam_Matt says:
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    In a league where I just lost D’Arnaud, a guy wants to give me Gattis and Polanco for Gerrit Cole

    My other SP are Kershaw, DeGrom, Heston, and Fiers

    Some notable waiver wire SPs available are: Shelby Miller, James Paxton, Matt Shoemaker, Pomeranz, Jimmy Nelson

    Should I jump the gun? (It’s a 12-team, 7×7 league w/ added categories: H/BB and QS/HLD)

    • JB Gilpin

      JB Gilpin says:
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      @GleamTeam_Matt: Yeah I think I’m taking that, especially if you could use a little speed. You can probably wait on the add, but Paxton would be a great guy to add

  50. Gio says:
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    Keeler league, would you rather acquire c. Rondon or Salazar?

    • JB Gilpin

      JB Gilpin says:
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      @Gio: Ohhhhhhh that’s a good one. immediate thought was Salazar, but ya know what, I think I’d go Rodon if you can keep year to year with no penalty

  51. john says:
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    travis wood didn’t make the list huh… need a 5th Sp was thinking either T Wood, DeSclafani or Haun?

    • JB Gilpin

      JB Gilpin says:
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      @john: Nah he was so so bad last year and only had the one good start last time out. Already given up a few homers early tonight, gimme DeSclafani of the bunch

  52. los locos says:
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    My pitching is loaded and every week one of them inflate my ERA WHIP.. If it ain’t a starter, its a closer…

    Cishek, Kershaw, Strausburg Fiers Week 1
    Paxton Hutchinson Week 2 (dropped Ciskek, week 3 no save yet) (Hutchinson dropped, no command)
    Shoemaker Week 3.. Shoemaker and Fiers on a short leash, very short..

    I had McHugh last year and decided to keep Shoemaker.. UGH. I had the chance to take Votto with my 1rd 10th pick and I choose Prince. Not good. Not good. Team is sputtering along here…

    Brantley (back); Hanley (cold); Nolan (wrist)

    Bauer on my bench last 3 weeks, best pitcher thus far and I can’t trust him…

    Kershaw
    Strausburg
    Shoemaker
    Paxton
    McCarthy

    Fiers
    Bauer
    Salazar

    A Miller RP
    Ottovino RP

    • JB Gilpin

      JB Gilpin says:
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      @los locos: Haha, well Prince vs. Votto I wouldn’t have felt strongly either way on, but I had McHugh a good bit ahead of Shoemaker so I would say be sure to read me more! Haha jk…

      Kershaw is gonna go back to being the best pitcher in baseball, Stras should be better, Pax I think gets better, I think you’re pretty solid. Although if Bauer is on your bench a lot, he’s a great sell high

  53. Btdrnks says:
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    Sitting on Harper, Dickerson, Brantley, Braun, Garcia and Souza in a 12-team H2H Points Keeper league. Can I flip one of these bats for a pitcher? Would Salazar be too low of a target for a Brantley? Or should I be looking for a wood or degrom type?

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      @Btdrnks: Yeah I think Salazar is a bit too low. Brantley excels in Pts leagues too because of the on base, I dunno if I’d want to sell him with his value this low. I think Braun might be able to get a tad more, Wood would be great if weekly lineups to slot in RP spot

  54. los locos says:
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    JB, so drop Fiers? He doesn’t look like last year pitcher he looks like 2013 version. He may be every other year type of pitcher.

    Norris from Balt looks awful, any chance Gausman gets in the rotation.. Not like he’s any better but has upside.

    Not much on waivers for Fiers, We have Colon, Simon Timmy Jims, Hutchinson, Bailey and Mr CC who looks a lot better then last season and better then Mike Fiers.

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      @los locos: Yeah 10 or 12ers sure. Deeper he might be a good buy low, but no reason to wait for it on shallow rosters. Had nothing with the offspeed stuff. Ummmm, there’s def a chance for Gausman, but I don’t think it’s too soon, you never know though.

      Ohhhhh Bailey doesn’t fit that list at all. Def taking him over Fiers, was doing that beforehand as well

  55. Swfcdan says:
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    J-Pax is looking like toast man! Need some help in my 10 teamer, my pitching has been wretched (Anibal, Latos, Paxton *barfs*). Any potential breakou arms that could be available in 10 teamers (deep benches)? Im thinking Heston as one possibly, could he stick around all year?

    • Swfcdan says:
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      @Swfcdan: Oh and you buying (Chicken) Alfredo Simon at all?

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        @Swfcdan: Hammel’s avialable, you still a fan?

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          JB Gilpin says:
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          @Swfcdan: Oh I don’t think toast at all. Not huge on Heston, but we’ll see, Simon offers such low upside and no Ks, I’m def taking Hammel of those 3. Small samples – but BABIP is high, LOB% is low, HR/FB is high, velo is still good, I think he’s going to be solid

  56. Eric B says:
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    Ok couldnt reply above because our chain went on too long lol. Thanks for the advice with my team. Not sure if I can get Span for CMart but I’m trying. Would you drop Span for any of these waiver wire pitchers. I feel like I’m a little batter heavy, usually only like to keep 2 bench bats. Including my team again for reference:
    ( 5×5 HTH OBP league)
    Bats
    C McCann
    1B Freeman
    2B Kipnis
    3B Santana
    SS A.Ramirez
    OF Stanton
    OF Springer
    OF Soler
    OF Betts
    Util Pollock
    Util Avisail Garcia
    Util Lawrie
    Bench Semien
    Bench Calhoun
    Bench Span
    DL C/DH Jaso

    Staff
    P Kluber
    P Odorizzi
    P Cole
    P Salazar
    P Paxton
    SP Ventura
    SP S.Greene
    RP Chapman
    RP Britton
    Bench RP Perkins
    Bench SP McCarthy
    DL RP Parnell

    Wire pitchers available that you have in your rankings are: Haap, Nelson and T.Walker or RP wise I could pick up Yimi Garcia(mainly for K’s no holds in this league). Matt Cain is also on waivers and DL eligible. Do you think he’s worth a stash by dropping Span and then adding an arm from the list above?As always respect and appreciate your opinion!

    • Eric B says:
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      @Eric B: Should be Norris there on wire not Nelson.

      • JB Gilpin

        JB Gilpin says:
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        @Eric B: Haha no worries.

        Mehhhhh nah I think I’m standing pat, although Walker showed a ton of promise early in his start yesterday. I think I’d probably hold though.

        Nah I have Cain out of my top 100 and t’s been speculated he might need the flexor surgery. I’d keep a spot open in case one of your guys gets hurt.

        Any time!

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          @JB Gilpin: Ok so after Happs start last night I repose the question above to you. I dont really need Span after getting surprised by the Russell for Calhoun and Salazar trade, he’s just kinda sitting on my bench as a 3rd bench bat. Dont think I need more than 2 bench bats. So A)would you drop Span who Ive had no luck trying to trade and B) if the answer is yes, is it for Happ or Walker? Haap has been decent but unspectacular and it was Houston he pitched against last night, Walker has more upside I would think, so essentially for the rest of the season, who’s more roster-able iyo and do you agree with the premise I dont need Span?

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          @JB Gilpin: Chase Anderson is available too, since I see he’s getting some love here. So drop Span for Haap, Walker or Anderson rest of the season?

  57. booya says:
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    Which side would you want in a 12 team H2H league?
    Strasburg or JZimm, Greene, Liriano

    • JB Gilpin

      JB Gilpin says:
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      @booya: Depends on how deep the side getting 3’s pitching is and if it’s weekly. If it’s weekly I’d probably take Stras because one or two of the guys coming back might be sits

  58. Prime_Time_Players says:
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    Chase Anderson.. starting to feel him now.. 8K/9 walk rate 2.0.. I hate his ball park. We looking at a late bloomer, could he be like a Colllin McHugh of last year… I’m liking him more then what is on my waivers.. Like Bailey, Colon, Linicum, Simon… Thoughts…And if I am not mistaken you did an article on him…

  59. Lemmingness says:
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    Eovaldi seems to be the popular add in Grey’s post’s comments section today. Would you pick him up in 10 team pts leagues, over guys like Shoe, Simon, T.Wood?

    • JB Gilpin

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      @Lemmingness: Sure, yeah I would over Simon and Wood. Not a big fan of either, Simon being just out of my top 100 and Wood way out. Shoemaker I wouldn’t though

  60. Bill Lee says:
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    You look like a genius having Happy in your top 60 but I’m still gonna ask: Happ, Chase Anderson,
    or Eovaldi?

    Thanks much in advance.

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      @Bill Lee: Happ not Happy. Focking autocorrect

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        JB Gilpin says:
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        @Bill Lee: Haha, well on the Pod we made all sorts of Happ puns! Appreciate it man, def not a genius just got one right :)

        Still gonna be him over those, I don’t think Eovaldi’s stuff looked much better and will be prone to low K clunkers. Anderson is kinda close, hate that park tho.

        Any time!

  61. Tom says:
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    JB – best deep league upside stash for 2015 & 2016 in a points league: Ivan Nova, Brandon Beachy or Charlie Morton? Or stop wasting my time on guys who obviously aren’t going to matter & get some sleep?

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      JB Gilpin says:
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      @Tom: Hahaha, well I hope you got some sleep :) Really the only one for me is Beachy, but it’s low end.

  62. Alex says:
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    Anybody throwing Porcello tonight? I know he got shelled against BAL last start, but something is telling me to roll the dice.

    • JB Gilpin

      JB Gilpin says:
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      @Alex: I used to be the biggest Porcello believer in the land. The fact it’s BAL again has me scurred haha

  63. SheriffMcRawDawg says:
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    JBIZZLE!

    drop Shoemaker or McCarthy for Smyly coming off the DL and NO I won’t look at your rankings!

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      JB Gilpin says:
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      @SheriffMcRawDawg: Yo! Hah you are allowed to reject them as I think I would drop Shoemaker. His GB% is 25% right now! With sooooo many homers.

  64. Eric B says:
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    Tonight was not easy being Greene ughh. Few questions for you… Do you think Paxton rebounds? Rest of the season, Happ , Chase, Norris or Walker (and is that SP worth owning or only streaming)? Best 3 DL stashes out of these players: Jaso, Hardy, Swisher, Parnell, Cain, Parker Billingsley or Moore?

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      @Eric B: Here’s my team as a reference:
      ( 5×5 HTH OBP league)
      Bats
      C McCann
      1B Freeman
      2B Kipnis
      3B Santana
      SS A.Ramirez
      OF Stanton
      OF Springer
      OF Soler
      OF Betts
      Util Pollock
      Util Avisail Garcia
      Util Calhoun
      Bench Semien
      Bench Lawrie
      DL C/DH Jaso

      Staff
      P Kluber
      P Odorizzi
      P Cole
      P Salazar
      P Paxton
      SP Ventura
      SP S.Greene
      RP Chapman
      RP Britton
      Bench RP Perkins
      Bench SP McCarthy
      Bench SP Walker
      DL RP Parnell

      I could drop Walker for Happ or Chase Anderson…or I could drop Walker and Lowrie for both Happ and Anderson…thoughts?

      • Eric B says:
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        @Eric B: Wherefor art thou JB?

        • JB Gilpin

          JB Gilpin says:
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          @Eric B: Hah doing wing challenges! RCL Hoops winner got a fun video I’ll cut together this week.

          I do think Paxton gets it together, but needs some velo boost. Needs that arm stronger. Overall of your SP you mention I’ll take Happ, remind me is it weekly or daily moves? Daily moves I’ll go Happ, weekly I like Walker as a bench stash.

          DL – gimme Hardy, Parnell andddddd I’ll lean Moore but don’t feel good about any of those guys.

          I think I like the Lowrie out for Happ move as the best

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            @JB Gilpin: Ha, no worries I look forward to the vid, love me some hoops too…just giving you a hard time.

            It’s daily moves; and it looks like McCarthy could need a DL stint. If so I can add Happ without dropping Lawrie and hold onto Walker. Might try to slip Colome into my 3rd DL slot with Jaso and Parnell.

            Not looking so good for Parnell with the setback but I think if healthy he would have been the preferred closer… so I’m gonna stash him. Hardy got snatched up, so with McCann as my catcher I like Jaso C/DH as the other DL stash. With Colome as a SP upside play(he’s also DL eligible currently. Thoughts on Colome?

            • JB Gilpin

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              @Eric B: Not a huge fan of Colome, and I don’t think he makes too many starts with Cobb almost back and Smyly in the rotation healthy as well. But sure, for an open DL spot, I’d def use it if you can! McCarthy has me scareeeeeed

  65. Blint says:
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    JB we need a basketball podcast after that Curry game and next day that Harden game :D

    I have Phil Hughes , James Paxton and Drew Hutchison on my WW ! Should I drop Shoemaker or Fiers for one of them?

    • JB Gilpin

      JB Gilpin says:
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      @Blint: Haha yeah man some sick performances! Working ahead on my top 10 next year, gonna be tough!

      I think Shoe and Fiers get better, but I would swap both out for Hughes and Paxton at this point. Pax really needs to show something good at HOU next time out tho

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        @JB Gilpin:

        Rondo top 10 after moving to the Lakers :P

        Paxton was taken only Hughes left now which one shud I drop Fiers or Shoemaker? Thanks!

  66. Jonas says:
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    I see that the Brewers are stretching out Thornburg in AAA. When do I add him?

    • JB Gilpin

      JB Gilpin says:
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      @Jonas: Haha, not for a whilllllle. And he still could come back and go into long relief, he wasn’t pitching well and they want him to work on it to be a SP or RP, just to improve overall

  67. primetime_players says:
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    JB, think to re-think my pitching staff here.

    Shoemaker – give in 1 more start
    Fiers – after todahy’s game, only 4 inn pitched and he’s very hittable. I know he has the Cubs coming up shortly but still a risky play.
    Paxton – dropped about 5 minutes ago.. I see nothing so far maybe a 2nd half pitcher
    McCarthy – About to drop.. He’s a home run derby pitcher.

    Kershaw
    Strausburg
    Bauer
    Santazar

    Thinking Chase Anderson is a good pickup. Homer looked a little better but that velocity is not good at 92 mph. Jesse Chavez looks like he’s back in the rotation.. Then Hutchinson, AJ Burnett and Hector Sanitago..

    Thoughts? Drop Fiers and McCarhty

    • JB Gilpin

      JB Gilpin says:
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      @primetime_players: Ugh yeah I’ve been on keep/drop with those guys on my teams too, obviously. McCarthy can go. Leaving with elbow issues. Yikes. I know Fiers was atrocious again, but Ks are still there and velo is there (compared to his norms). Needs to get the breaking stuff consistent. Agree Homer looks no bueno, he’s gonna fall. I think I’d drop McCarthy and gamble on… Hutchison? Probably the most upside

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