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We back baby!  Spring Training is already starting up (We desperately need shorter games, but like 2 extra weeks of Spring Training?!?! I know, I know, WBC, but whatever!), we’re about to March, drafts about to be drafting…  Love this time of year.

So note to self – get the rankings done earlier in 2018.  Second note to self – bitch slap Grey when I see him in person next week for making everyone else look so bad, with his ranks done so early!  But hey, not like he’s got other sports to worry about!  Speaking of, if you haven’t played fantasy basketball yet, shameless plug sentence/link for you to come over and check us out on hoops!  Play in some Hoops RCLs next year maybe!

Ok, JB’s ADHD voice, back to bidness!  My yearly baseball magnum opus is finally complete – weeks in the works – and went from 9600 words last year to 9700!  Weird they were so similar… I’m kinda like Tolstoy, they just gonna keep getting longer, hah!  Of course no one is expected to read War & Peace in one sitting, so take your time getting through this bad boy!  I’ll wait!

I’m pumped to get the Pitcher Profiles ramped up again, better quality GIFs, and another year with the Gamescore+, which maybe we can start to automate with more batted ball data out there.  RUDY?!?!?!  WHERE’S RUDY?!?!?!?!  SOMEONE GET ME RUDY!!!  Also, if you missed the wrap up I put together a few weeks ago, you can check out how Grey and I did vs. ESPN with the 2016 SP ranks.

A question that is always debated and weirdly always different for each ranker/rankings sets is: are these your personal rankings?  Adjusted for ADP?  Are they how you would draft, or how you think guys will finish?  I’ve decided I have the be all, end all answer.  I did these ranks initially without looking at ADP or any other rankings sets.  The ranks are my personal ranks for how I would value guys one over the other, and then I’ll use this list to be malleable for every draft/site/league format.  Pigeonholing ranks to adjust for ADP means you’re stuck looking at one list of ADP data.  So there’s my answer for how I approach rankings.

Anyway, here we go!  Find below my top 100 SP for 2017.  And as always, my top-5 sleepers (to varying degrees) are James Paxton, Sean Manaea, Blake Snell, Ivan Nova & Reynaldo Lopez.  Plus bonus #6 – Tyler Skaggs – moved him up after re-looking at his data.  Apparently I love my lefties this year!

Razzball Baseball

JB’s Top 100 SP

(rankings based on 12-team Roto)

Rank SP, Team NOTE
1 Clayton Kershaw, LAD I don’t really see any reason to bump him from #1. Yeah, the back issue could crop up at any time, but an elbow or shoulder issue could for anyone else too! 1.57 ERA with 141 Ks in 115 IP until that last start when his back flared up on June 26, and he still ended the season fine.
2 Max Scherzer, WAS Knuck til ya buck, WHAT?! Mad Max should be a Fury Road again, if that knuckle is OK! Hesitantly keeping him #2, although as Spring progresses, he could easily fall a few spots if it looks like he’ll miss significant time.
3 Madison Bumgarner, SF Looks like top 3 are universally the same (minus Max noise), as MadBum is off his 3rd straight 9+ K rate season, with his highest strikeout rate to date (9.97). Interestingly though, since his BABIP was low and he stranded nearly 80% of batters, he had his worst xFIP of his career in a full season (only was worse in 18 starts in 2010). Meh, I just think that’s random fluctuations in the numbers, he should be fine.
4 Noah Syndergaard, NYM Obviously what a prime piece of Scandinavian man meat needs to do in an offseason is to add more muscle! Reportedly added 17 lbs – I don’t care about that kind of offseason “best shape of my life” hooblah – but I’m gonna bet the bone spurs will be fine and he’s gonna have a big 2017. I thought I remembered him having a slight strikeout or performance lull last year, but damn, he was pretty consistent. Pitcher Profile – May 18, 2015
5 Yu Darvish, TEX F it, I’m doing it, all my chips in Yu basket! It was only a couple of years ago when I had him #2 (I think Grey did as well), and after returning from TJ last year, still had a preposterous 11.85 K rate in 100.1 innings last year. His WHIP was solid too, with a career-best BB rate. His fastball was at a career best velo too! All the ancillary stuff looks great, I’m a buyer.
6 Corey Kluber, CLE Me n Klubot, sitting in a tree! Ever since he rocked for my fantasy squads in his 2014 breakout, he’s been my expressionless assassin. While he may have slightly regressed last year (value saved by getting 18 wins vs. only 9 in 2015), I still fully believe in a 9+ K rate, and his last 21 starts he was 14-3 with a 2.61 ERA. If he can iron out having a bad start to the season, he could easily be the Cy. Unlike that schlub who won it last yr…
7 Chris Sale, BOS Dude, I love Chris Sale! His flying-spider delivery is one of my favorite to watch in baseball. But I was surprised to be one of the few that’s gonna have him outside my top-5… While his K rate dropped dramatically, 9.25:1.79 is still phenomenal, but interestingly his xFIP was nearly a run higher last year compared to 2015, with comparable ERAs. He definitely was unlucky in 2015, I hesitate to say he got “a little lucky” last year, but I do find it hard to see him have a sub-3.20 ERA. And as well documented, his fastball velo intentionally dropped nearly 2 MPH because he wanted to get faster outs and last longer. Think about baseball if you wanna last longer, don’t start throwing slower! Crazy-ass stat for you though – in his career, he’s gotten 572 Ks with his slider, yet only walked 32 with it. Dude!
8 Justin Verlander, DET Sure, there’s a lot of negatives to pick out ranking Verlander at 8. He’s older, was bad for a few years before 2016, had kinda a lucky BABIP, his xFIP wasn’t great… But dayum, 254 strikeouts in 2016?! A big reason I liked him last year and ranked him above the consensus was the hot 2nd half, and it looks like he just needed to get healthy again to get back to form. Fastball was hardest since 2012, he has adjusted to throwing his slider harder and more often than ever before, and shifted away from his change-up. Sure, maybe a little scary for arm health, but we’re talking pitchers here. Everyone has scary arm health! I’d be happy with JV as the 8th SP off the board.
9 Jon Lester, CHC Another “JB’s fave calls of 2016!”, Lester ended up as the #2 pitcher on the Razzball player rater, proving slow and steady can indeed win the race. He got a little lucky in BABIP and LOB%, but he’s off 9 seasons of 191+ innings, velo and pitch arsenal all still look great, and he pitches for the best team in baseball. Slow and steady should bring you a top-10 finish yet again.
10 Stephen Strasburg, WAS Ya know, telling the media he’s gonna throw his slider/cutter a ton less so he won’t have elbow issues isn’t exactly the best foreshadowing… Hah! That said, unbelievable 183 Ks in only 147.2 innings, good for a 11.15:2.68 K:BB 3/4 of the way to a 200 inning season. If you hit the lottery and he stays healthy, he easily could push to be a top 4 or 5 overall pitcher. The stuff, peripherals, division, good team, etc. all are there.
11 Jake Arrieta, CHC Sooooo, last year wasn’t quite the vintage Arrieta. Was he awesome-Arrieta long enough to become Vintage?! After two years of 9+ Ks and about 2 BB, 8.67 Ks to a crazy-high 3.47 walks. Since his BABIP stayed low and he still got a boatload of wins, his value didn’t hurt too much, but his xFIP was a full run higher than the previous two seasons. The biggest culprit I can find is kinda buried in Fangraphs’ stats – on his season page it parses out his cutter, but in Pitchf/x, it lists the pitch as a “Slider” – and he threw it 989 times in 2015, for a .184 BAA and 88:18 K:BB. Last year, only 561 times for a .221 BAA and only 32:18 K:BB. 2015, 90.3 MPH on that pitch, last year, down to 89.2… So much of his effectiveness is that big-cutter/little-slider, whatever you wanna call it, and it really hurt with him not having that pitch as elite. I obviously don’t think he’s going to turn into a pumpkin, but I’m not as high this year as others. Pitcher Profile – July 7, 2014
12 David Price, BOS I’m not sure if there was a more annoying pitcher last year than Price… He was a top-10 “safe” SP pick, and just pulled down his pants and shat all over Fenway for the first few months. That said, he still finished 16th on the Razzball Player rater, and grinded his way to 228 Ks and 17 wins. If he can just be a smidge better in the first half, I don’t see any reason why he can’t be right at the 10th overall cusp at the end of the season.
13 Carlos Carrasco, CLE You know me, gone gone chasin’ K-rate! Well over 9 the past 3 seasons for this late breakout guy, and would’ve had another solid season if not for breaking his hand on a comebacker. If anything, it means his arm is that little bit extra fresher for 2017! Pitcher Profile – September 15, 2014
14 Johnny Cueto, SF Ugh, this is where I hit my first roadblock in the ranks. Instead of going nuts for a youngun this early (cough, Joe Ross), I decided to rank #14 safe. Although these next few pitchers I’m likely passing on in drafts… With Cueto – yeah I was way wrong last year, but his velo dropped 1 MPH on his fastball and curiously 2.2 MPH on the slider, and while pitching in SF will mask some stuff, he’s maybe an 8 K-rate guy, so not quite the upside as the SP above.
15 Jacob deGrom, NYM I think Grey is a little deDumb for liking deGrom as much as he does… He wasn’t “bad” last year, but lost 1.6 ticks on the fastball, had an injury, and ended up with an unsightly 1.20 WHIP. Sure, a little bit of that was a .312 BABIP, but he had an 80% LOB and just didn’t look nearly as good as he did in 2015. Playoffs ruined all of these guys!
16 Kenta Maeda, LAD Aight, time to start throwing a wrench into EVERYTHING! Although Grey has him 19, which makes me a sad panda… I thought I would be way ahead on this one! In his 2016 debut season, 9.17 K:2.56 BB, and really none of the peripherals look off at all. Only thing holding him back was 172.2 IP. If they take the kid’s gloves off and let him go 7 innings most of the time, he’s a 210-220 inning pitcher, with a 9+ K-rate and probably 20 wins. It’s just that “if”… And well, if the league doesn’t figure him out a little too… That’s another “if”…  Pitcher Profile – May 23, 2016
17 Gerrit Cole, PIT Let me make one thing clear – I hate Gerrit Cole. I’m still mad about this.  You tell em, Gregg Doyel! We can be best friends if you want, Gregg! And Cole got some comeuppance last year with middling results and injury issues (although so did Gomez in the years after haha). Anyway, it’s a little bit of a flier, but he still threw hard through elbow inflammation cropping up last year, and expects to be fully healthy. Upside for 8+ K rate to return and a good ERA/WHIP in that park has me thinking a top-20 finish is well within reason.
18 Masahiro Tanaka, NYY Are people still unjustly worried about his partially torn elbow? Well, they might be, I still am a little bit! He pitched great last year, but the Ks were still kinda blah. Plus the rebuilding Yankees might not be the best team – 14 wins in 200 good innings last year, and I dunno if we can expect any more in 2017.  But as we all know, wins are finicky.
19 Kyle Hendricks, CHC I came into the ranks thinking I was for sure going to be pretty blah on Hendricks. But damn if there’s not 20 other pitchers I like more… Sure, K-rate is only at 8 and his BABIP and LOB% were a little lucky, but remember all the games where Maddon pulled him early?! What if he gets 210-215 innings, which is well within reason?! Could have a 20 win season, 8 K rate, 3.20 ERA… That would still likely be top-20 and that’s building in regression to the ratios.
20 Danny Duffy, KC Who thinks 2016 was legit?! Pick me! Pick me! I’d be all about Duffy flirting with top-15, but I’m still pretty worried about how he handles the workload as a starter all year. The Royals seemed to always be concerned with his innings, and over his last 7 starts in 2016: 6.37 ERA 1.59 WHIP… Plus his final 3 starts had his fastball at 93.7 MPH or slower, as he was almost always in the 94-95 range as a starter (with some blips here and there, but it was a trend). I’ll like him, but not fully reaching. Pitcher Profile – 
21 Cole Hamels, TEX As safe as it comes for a top-25 pitcher. Although I did see some warning signs last year with the BB rate, but he was able to adapt around a slight loss of control and still be solid. K rate was still there, threw a lot of innings, just a poopoo 1.31 WHIP. But he should be OK for another 200ish Ks, 15-17 wins, and good ERA… Pitcher Profile – August 18, 2014
22 Danny Salazar, CLE Man, don’t feel too confident with Salazar at all, but his allure of a 10+ K rate still has me intrigued. I just got the heebie jeebies after there was some quote or something where he said he had no confidence in his elbow last year, but the doctors said he was healthy. Then he got a flexor strain… After two straight years keeping the BB-rate under 3, it was 4.13 in 2016. Maybe he was just pitching through an undiagnosed injury – velos and peripherals all look OK – but I have that same waning confidence he had in his elbow last year…
23 Carlos Martinez, STL We all know he throws hard and has nasty stuff, but duuuuuuuuuude, only 8.02 K rate?! 3.23 BB/9?! His stuff is just so electric sometimes, that I don’t know why he hasn’t found a little more consistency. Maybe this can be a breakout year, but if you take out my horrible Brewers accounting for 24 Ks in two of his starts, his K rate really looks pedestrian… Pitcher Profile – April 13, 2015
24 Chris Archer, TB I wanted to put Archer higher. I really, really did. But I think the league is starting to adjust to him, more than any change of effectiveness on his end. That slider – one of the best pitches in baseball – was only a smidge less effective in 2016 compared to 2015, but his fastball absolutely got murdered. 0.5 value on Fangraphs in 2015 to -15.1 last year, opponents hit .256 in 2015 off it with 9 homers, up to .280 last year with 17 homers. I just get the suspicion that if hitters read fastball, they’re swinging every time. Plus it lost 1 MPH from 2015 to 16. K rate should still have him valuable, but it’s going the wrong way. Pitcher Profile – April 27, 2015
25 Aaron Sanchez, TOR Awesome breakout from A-A-Ron, finishing 21st on the Razzball Player Rater, and easily could duplicate that effort. Only thing that keeps him a little lower is that 7.55 K-rate, which is weird because his stuff is awesome! Just check out his Profile! But he’s still young, Ks could improve… We just better not see too much regression in the .267 BABIP or 10.7% HR/FB while in the tough-to-pitch AL. Pitcher Profile – April 18, 2016
26 Zack Greinke, ARI Buzz’s girlfriend, woof! Yeah, absolute disaster for sure… We all know he’d regress, but Ks down, BB rate up, HR rate was terrible, his velo dropped again… His pitch values across the board went down, but I dunno, I just feel like he hasn’t completely forgotten how to pitch… Not like he went from throwing mid-90s to 91-92 – he’s been lower velo for a little now, and I think could bounce back as a slow-n-steady top-20 finisher. Obviously the risk is he keeps regressing and the Diamondbacks loathe their lives for this albatross contract.
27 Lance McCullers, HOU From blah old people to sexy young arms! Everyone’s favorite 2017 breakout comes in the season after an obscene 11.78 K rate in 81 innings last year, shortened by shoulder issues. Everyone points to 49.5% usage rate of the curveball, but I actually am OK with it as long as he can get a smidge more control. Just to underscore the upside, he somehow managed a 3.22 ERA with 5.00 BB/9 AND a .383 BABIP! I do worry about the shoulder stuff and if he can hold up a whole season, but upside is there for a clear top-30 gamble.
28 Matt Harvey, NYM These last two is a great debate for me. All sorts of risk on the injury front, but Harvey had the more major surgery, and just wasn’t effective at all despite having high velocity again. Sure, you can attribute it to the thorasic dinosaur stuff, but we’ll see how he looks through Spring. Certainly worth a flier in the top 30.
29 Rich Hill, LAD 3 for the last 3 – huge upside/huge injury risk guys! Hill is just the grandpa of the bunch. I think at this point we can expect pretty good results while he’s out there, plus a good park, good team… Should be good for however many innings you get him.
30 James Paxton, SEA My Canadian lover! After blowing me away when he debuted in 2014 (his 5th career start), he’s been pretty middling, mostly due to injuries. Some control stuff too, overall repeatability of his pitches… But after getting demoted to AAA to start last year, he completely changed his arm slot, and starting slingin’ lefty 100! Nothing is sexier than lefty 100! He utilized his cutter a little more, then after shying away from his curveball, brought it back in a big way his last 5 starts (20% of the time or more), and he ended his last 3 with a 24:2 K:BB. Overall he flashed an 8.7 K rate to a 1.8 BB rate, and even though the ERA and WHIP were kinda blah, he had a .347 BABIP and 66.3% LOB! He had a 2.80 FIP!!! While I know a perception is kinda a “been there, done that” with Paxton, dude has still only thrown 286 Major League innings! He got through 171.2 in AAA/MLB last year so I think he can be durable now, changed his arm slot, and I think the pastiche of his velocity will get overlooked because the results still don’t really look like they were there last year. They were just hiding… Draft my big Canadian with confidence this year! Pitcher Profile – September 14, 2015
31 John Lackey, CHC John Lackey?! Really JB?! No, that’s not me emulating your groans, it’s me groaning at myself! He’s 38, but off of two straight great seasons and showing no signs of velo loss. While I don’t know if I quite buy the 8.6 K rate he had outta nowhere, he did use his fastball a bit less vs. 2014 and 15, and threw a tad more off-speed (usually strikeout pitches). The intrigue for me is he somehow only had 11 wins on that Cubs team in 188.1 innings. Shave off some Ks and add a few wins and I think he easily can be right at the 30 range at the end of the season.
32 Sean Manaea, OAK Looking at some other ranks/sources, looks like Manaea might be my 2017 guy. For some reason he easily ended up on a lot of my teams during the stretch run last year, when he had a 2.44 ERA his last 14 outings, with a 75:14 K:BB in 84.2 innings. Over his final 6 starts of his rookie season, 1.05 ERA with a 32:9 K:BB in 34.1 innings. And it’s not like we’re talking about some outta nowhere guy, this was a major prospect! It’s just that he struggled out of the gate, then everyone forgot about him. Classic prospect syndrome… He always profiled as a control guy, just had some jitters out of the gate, then had a really under the radar finish. Sure, he’s probably an 8 K rate guy at best, and he might have an innings cap around 180-190 and only get 11-12 wins, but I think there’s solid breakout potential here. Pitcher Profile – May 2, 2016
33 Blake Snell, TB Going on my run of sexy southpaw sleepers I love! I know I kinda linkbait the shit outta these, but def look at his pitcher profile. Dear lord, that STUFF! 9.91 K rate last year, but unfortunately with the unsightly 5.16 BB rate. That said, had an unreal .356 BABIP and still survived with a 3.54 ERA.  All he needs is the BB rate to be like, 4.0, and the BABIP to normalize around .300, and suddenly he’s one of 2017’s big breakouts. Ya know, his numbers last year eerily mimic McCullers, and everyone is gaga for Lance. Not sure why the buzz isn’t there for Blake either. The two should definitely start a boy band with those names…  Pitcher Profile – August 1, 2016
34 Ivan Nova, PIT Why is no one talking about Nova?!??! Maybe people need a refresher on just how much magic pixy dust Searage dumped on him. 64.2 innings in PIT, 52 Ks, 3 BB (!!!!!!!!!!!!), 5 wins, 3.06 ERA, 1.10 WHIP. And get this, he was actually UNLUCKY too! Had a .318 BABIP and unreal 68.7 LOB%. Enough pixie dust to just dunk him in it, like an ice bucket challenge!  So a guy who never walks anyone, somehow is unlucky with a strand rate?! Yeah, it could’ve been even better… While he did have a low HR rate, he pitches in a great park, in the NL, plus he’s a groundball pitcher. With the latter said, it does cap his upside since he won’t be a huge K guy, but it’s not like this is some softball pitcher up there. Threw 92.8 with the fastball on PIT, which is nothing to sneeze at. I honestly debated Nova vs. Porcello a ton, I think they could have identical seasons, but decided to make a little noise with the rank :)  Pitcher Profile – September 19, 2016
35 Rick Porcello, BOS Ahhhhh, the blunder from down under. Well, if “down under” meant 2016… I wonder if his odds to win Cy Young in 2016 were worse than Leicester City! And, well, see what’s happening to Leicester City now! Dude pitched 223 innings and got 22 wins. Both seem mad high, and his BB rate was an obscene 1.29/9! With a HR rate that was uncharacteristically below 10% in Fenway, his xFIP was actually HIGHER than 2015, when he was a flaming turd! One might argue, “oh, his sinking fastball gets groundballs though!”, but I would then slap that person across the face and say “LOOK IT UP!” Career-low 43.1% GB rate, after always being a 50%+ guy in Detroit. 2016 for Slicky Ricky feels like the Greinke 2015 season in LAD, then he moved to ARI. Except Porcello isn’t moving! So let’s do this, let’s split the middle of his high-BABIP unlucky 2015, and mad lucky 2016, straight combining everything (which will slant towards 2016 since he pitched more innings) and divide by 2: 197.5 IP, 15.5 W, 3.92 ERA, 1.16 WHIP, 169 Ks. It’s OK! Just not great. And that would straight be my prediction.
36 Jose Quintana, CHW People fawn over Quintana, and I just don’t get it. Safety in a deep mixed or AL-only?! Sure, I would be all about it. But for 12ers, what’s the appeal? Always a sub-8 K-rate, not great wins and CHW should be atrocious still. Even though he had a career year, he actually had a lot of things go his way. His 4.03 xFIP was actually highest since 2012. If he finishes higher than 36, what’s the upside, top-30?! Meh.
37 Michael Fulmer, DET Certainly struggled with Fulmer. The BABIP was lucky (.268), but the rest of the peripherals say he was good, but I can’t get over that lowly 7.47 K rate, Well, I should say “middling” K rate. Wait, what, Kate Middleton?! He throws hard, and the change-up was still a newly minted pitch for him, so maybe there’s still upside here. It’s a good park… I dunno, I think Fulmer has one of the wider ranges of outcomes of anyone in my top-40. He could improve and flirt with top-20, or absolutely implode. Pitcher Profile – June 13, 2016
38 Joe Ross, WAS Where are you now?!?!?! Ohohoho!!! Well, Ross wasn’t really a “bust” with my high ranking last year, because he wasn’t really bad. He just wasn’t great either, then got hurt. Actually he was even better than I remember! Frist 10 starts – 2.37 ERA! But only 46:18 K:BB in 60.2 IP… Then his shoulder started blowing up, which is a mad concern given how much he throws that dominant slider. He’s trying to perfect his change-up to have a complete 3-pitch arsenal, so he’s someone I’m going to try and watch a few starts of in Spring, to see how it comes along.  Pitcher Profile – July 27, 2015
39 J.A. Happ, TOR Another high finisher last year – one who also seems unsexy and unappealing – I actually think might come at a smidge of a discount. He’s actually been doing this for a about a year-and-a-half now if you count the PIT stint, but he had a low BABIP in 2016, almost 80% LOB and value boosted by 20 wins. Even with all that, I think he’ll be decent, just not expecting 2016.
40 Kevin Gausman, BAL I don’t know what it is… I know I “should” like Gausman more – he throws hard, was pretty consistent all year, 8.72:2.35 K:BB… I just feel like he’s too reliant on fastball/split (ironic when you see who is ranked next) and he’s going to give up too many homers and line drives for that park. I don’t think I’m egregiously low on him, but likely passing based on some other ranks I’ve seen.
41 Matt Shoemaker, LAA Wild, wild ride for Shoemaker last year, who blew, then was amazing, then kinda settled in, then unfortunately took a comebacker to the head which ended his season. He’s already facing live batters and it’s just good to see him pitching. And 8.04:1.69 K:BB always gets me excited (like he did last year), but I worry about how much the league is adjusting to him. He started throwing that split finger like 40-50% of the time from May 16 on, was dynamite from then through June, then was kinda middle-of-the-road July and August.
42 Taijuan Walker, ARI I had to fight off the Walker-detractors a lot last year, and I think he was so mediocre that no one was right… Decent Ks, decent WHIP, lucky BABIP but unlucky HR/FB. His fastball at 93.9 with the change at 88.3 MPH just doesn’t work though… Maybe the change of scenery will help – as will the change to the NL – but for a guy with homer problems going to the desert is a little scary. Fear and Loathing of the Homers!
43 Jameson Taillon, PIT We all know I love my K:BB, it’s like pure, uncut Joe Ross love! 7.36:1.47 for the Taillon Stallion, who surprised everyone with just how good he looked after 2 years off due to injuries, throwing 94.3 MPH on the fastball in the Majors. He’s got a good park and the best pitching coach in the game, but I think he’ll be more of 4th SP (on your fantasy team) “solid” guy than have this huge breakout.
44 Dylan Bundy, BAL So apparently Bundy was ridiculously dominant turning pro with a cutter, then scrapped the pitch because he thought it added to some of the several arm problems he had. He didn’t even use the pitch last year, but after making it through a healthy season, he might bring it back. Instead it was more curveballs and changes, and you can see in the Pitcher Profile link how good his stuff looks. He’s reportedly not on an innings limit, and is a later-round sleeper I hope to get in most leagues. He had some trouble the third time through the order last year, but I’m treating 2016 as a long-term rehab assignment. Gonna beast in 2017. Pitcher Profile – July 18, 2016
45 Carlos Rodon, CHW Forever spurned! Which is kinda weird, you’d think Ross woulda hurt me worse, but I dunno… If I hadn’t whiffed on Rodon so bad last year, I think I might have him in my top-40… His K:BB – the issue with him has always been the free passes – was 9.16:2.95 last year! That’s pretty phenomenal! Trouble is he had a .330 BABIP with another 20%+ line drive rate (it wasn’t awful though…), and after watching him pitch so much, he just couldn’t get consistent outs with two strikes. And since he didn’t wanna walk anyone, he would pound the zone with fastballs and cross his fingers. Maybe he can take another step forward, but CHW are going to be terrible and not have him pitch 120 pitches any game or anything like that. Yeah, he finished mad strong (14 innings last 2 starts, 2 ER, 21:6 K:BB), but we went through the whole “finished strong” song and dance last year too… I guess you draft Hammel, then trade for Rodon at the deadline haha. Pitcher Profile – May 11, 2015
46 Vincent Velasquez, PHI Whoa, I know he had great Ks, but not quite a 10.44:3.09 K:BB last year! That said, a huge portion of that was that Padres game where he exploded onto the scene with that 16 K game. You could get some great Ks, but all the projections systems have him sub-160 innings, so it’s not like we’re going to get a full helping… Pitcher Profile – June 22, 2015
47 Jerad Eickhoff, PHI Why does no one like Eickhoff?! I know I was semi-guilty of this last year, but it’s a new season! Gorgeous 7.62:1.92 K:BB, meh BABIP was maybe the eensiest of a dash low, but everything looks legit to me. Good fastball, good slider, GREAT curveball, able to control both breaking pitches… Sure his cap might be like 13 wins and he might not have the upside as some I rank below, but he should be really solid. Underratingly (is that a word?) solid.
48 Tyler Skaggs, LAA I almost forgot all about it, but remember Skaggs’ AAA run rehabbing from TJ?! He was absolutely absurd! 32.1 innings, 1.67 ERA 0.84 WHIP, 45:8 K:BB. For a pitching talent-strapped team, yeah, he couldn’t toil any longer in the Minors. Hit the Majors, and ummmm, it didn’t quite carry over. 50:23 K:BB in 49.2 innings, but he did have a rough .331 BABIP and his velocity is at a career best. Damn, so he had a faster heater, yet the BABIP off it (small sample of course) was .342, while his curveball remained as dominant as ever, with opponents hitting .170 off it and 23 Ks to 2 BBs. Just 18 walks with the fastball, and it was hit hard in the zone. So all he needs is a smidge more command on the heater, and since he’s off TJ, that’s not too surprising. But with the curveball there, great velo, and the results happening in the Minors, I think we could be sitting on a big breakout here.
49 Marcus Stroman, TOR Even though he has electric stuff, I think we have to sorta assume he’s not going to be this monstrous K/9 guy… That said, made it through 204 innings last year, had a good K:BB (7.32:2.38) and just got a little unlucky with his strand rate. I think he can be OK with some upside given his youth, but not high on my excitement meter.
50 Dallas Keuchel, HOU I mean, it’s definitely pure flier here. All his lucky peripherals flipped completely to unlucky, as Rick Porcello (I’m guessing) sucked all his luckiness… Horrific HR rate, Ks went way down… Bad year. Apparently he pitched through “major rotator cuff inflammation” last season, which isn’t exactly inspiring confidence… He won’t pitch until the latter part of Spring, but if the shoulder holds up, he could be a usable innings eater like he was in 2015. Pitcher Profile – May 29, 2014
51 Junior Guerra, MIL Wow, why does everyone hate Junior?! We all know why I like him, homer bias, but cmon! 2.81 ERA, 1.13 WHIP and a 7.4 K rate is pretty good! Sure his peripherals say he wasn’t quite that good, and I know I know, everyone is like “whaaaa he’s a 31-yr-old rookie last year!”, but he converted to a pitcher in his 20s and it’s not like he’s been toiling in the Minors as a pitcher his whole life. That split-finger is a wonder to watch – it’s like a sharp-dipping change-up – and it’s not like he’s a soft tosser – 93.1 MPH on the fastball. The Crew shut him down to limit his innings, but I think he’ll be given the main load this year. Pitcher Profile – July 25, 2016
52 Steven Matz, NYM He was fine last year, I could rattle off numbers, but I’ve done enough of that at this point 52 deep. Just don’t have faith in his arm holding up for even 150 innings. Pitcher Profile – June 29, 2015
53 Felix Hernandez, SEA Follow along with me on the K:BB regression! Unreal 9.46:1.75 in 2014, pretty good 8.52:2.59 in 2015, horrible 7.16:3.82 in 2016. Not surprisingly, velo fell these past 3 years as well! I’m not going near The King.
54 Aaron Nola, PHI All about how much you believe… Was his awesome start luck/a hot streak, then his collapse due to the elbow issue that cost the end of his season? I definitely don’t buy the 9.81 K rate that came outta nowhere, and while he claims to be 100% healthy, I just have a weird feeling about that elbow. Pitcher Profile – May 9, 2016
55 Jeff Samardzija, SF The Shark! Why can’t he get Ks anymore! If only Sharks could answer… Oh I know why! It’s because he’s abandoned his split-finger. Wait, Sharks don’t have fingers! Well he had a 3.81 ERA in another 200+ IP campaign, and while I’m not banking on any real improvements on 2016’s line – everything looks about in place – I think wins could hop to like 16, which would make him a value. A boring value, but a value.
56 Julio Teheran, ATL Very meh. I mean, I hope I’m kinda wrong since I own him in one of my keepers, but even with the out-of-nowhere 7.99:1.96 K:BB, peripherals say he was pretty lucky. A lot of my hate here was watching him pitch last year – doesn’t throw hard, relies on a good slider but is more of a slurve, and doesn’t have additional great stuff. I could see this souring way before it sweets.
57 Jason Hammel, KC A Tale of Two Halves! Hammel always starts gangbusters, then ends like the remake of Ghostbusters. That said, he still finished really well last year, and gets to stay in a nice park there in KC.
58 Tanner Roark, WAS Whew, I was wayyyyyy wrong on Roark last year, but it’s not going to disuade me from a lower rank again in 2017. Interestingly, he had the same exact xFIP last year as in 2015 (4.17), when he was more of a ho-hum starter/long-relief guy. Last year he had a high strand rate, low BABIP, and didn’t give up homers. Sure his Ks were at a career-high rate, but the walks were too. I think he can be a good innings-eater, but pretty yawnstipating in 12ers.
59 Anthony DeSclafani, CIN Italian stallion! Why am I calling everyone stallions?! 7.66:2.19 K:BB had his 2016 “breakout” look legit, plus even after an injury in Spring that cost him the beginning of the season, threw the hardest in his career at 92.9 MPH on the fastball. Plus he has a fantastic slider. I’m not expecting monstrous upside, but do see decent Ks and a guy who won’t kill ya. (Update – of course right when I got this edited and put together, news came out he got scratched from a Spring start due to elbow tenderness, so drop him a good bit with what we know now.  Hopefully it’s nothing.) Pitcher Profile – June 27, 2016
60 Drew Pomeranz, BOS It’s weird, I don’t even dislike Pomeranz that much! Even into the mid-60s are pitchers I like, but it seems so weird to have Drew P this low. Everyone seems to agree though, that he was a smidge over his head in SD, and the change of parks to Fenway is a dealbreaker. 2.47/1.06 ERA WHIP with the Padres, 4.59/1.37 with the BoSox, but his xFIP didn’t change that much. He had some lucky BABIP in SD, but then got murdered with a 19.7% HR/FB in the AL. He had such a spike in workload that lead to elbow problems that is keeping me from ranking him any higher, even though he continued to have a 9+ K-rate in the divisional move.
61 Julio Urias, LAD The Dodgers are unfair! They have more money to spend than god, yet hit on prospects like Urias. Wait, they’re exactly like the Cubs! So both are unfair… Anyway, awesome debut for Urias, who had a 9.82 K rate and a 3.39 ERA in his first 77 MLB innings last year. His WHIP was unsightly, but he gave up a crazy .358 BABIP. He pitched 122 innings in Minors/Majors last year, so is there a chance they let him get to like 150-160 and he has a good K rate? Since he doesn’t really have the upside for a full season, it knocks him down a bit, but I might still draft him a few picks higher with the knowledge I’ll have to trade him after a few months or drop him towards the stretch run. Pitcher Profile – 
62 Eduardo Rodriguez, BOS As I put in my 2016 recap, “After a rough start and terrible June, actually ended really damn strong: 14 starts, 3.24 ERA, 79 K in 77.2 IP. ” That’s me quoting me! Ditched a cutter he was trying to incorporate, then things went smoother. It’s still not 100% he makes the rotation though, although it would seem most likely they put Steven Wright in long relief. E Rod has that lefty velo (93.5 MPH fastball in 2016) that keeps him really appealing. Someone I’ll be watching intently in Spring, and who could get a big jump in my first update.
63 Zach Davies, MIL Brewers need better pitchers! I feel like I have Junior and Davies ahead of most too, smh… Decent Ks, low walks, and all the peripherals say he should hang out in the high-3s ERA. Plus he kinda had a rocky start – if you take out his first 5 starts, he had a 3.56 ERA with 121:25 K:BB over 139 innings.
64 Daniel Norris, DET Interesting deeper sleeper (rhyme time!) from our favorite van man! Thanks to Swfcdan for the thought here! In 155.1 IP across the Majors/Minors, had 162 Ks, and the numbers in the Majors get obfuscated a little by a high BABIP. I remember when he debuted for the Blue Jays I was a little disappointed by the velo, but it was a career-high by far 93.1 MPH on the fastball last year, and he’s completely changed his slider to be a cutter (or changed to a cutter – Fangraphs list them all as sliders, but velo went from 80.8 with it in 2014 up to 87.5 last year). Pretty excited for the upside. Pitcher Profile – August 3, 2015
65 Robbie Ray, ARI Ray is gonna be on a lot of people’s sleeper lists. But as someone who drafted him in the REL, I watched a lot of his starts, and I think he still needs a lot of things to work to take the next step. First, just his plain ol’ mechanics. When I ranked him as a sleeper last year, he was more in the 3/4 arm slot from what I had seen, but threw more over-the-top last year. Almost seemed like he was guiding the ball to try and help control issues. In the end it actually HURT his walk rate to 3.67. Second, everyone will point to the unlucky BABIP and HR rate. Sure, I know I cite these for other guys in my ranks as well, but for Ray, he’s so inconsistent that he’s either dominant, or guiding the ball into the zone and it gets rocked. That’s why his line drive rate is always high – 21.7% last year. It was good to see his GB rate climb, but meh. And his BABIP/hits against could’ve been even worse, as he had oddly high infield fly balls (10.3%) and a low infield hit rate (4.6%). They kinda go hand-in-hand, but if he gets fewer infield flies/outs, the BABIP could’ve been like .380! Third, there is no third! Fourth, he’s just not good from the stretch at all. He’s horrific. Last year, .243 average against with bases empty, with 135 Ks and 30 BBs in 104 innings. Men on? 70.1 innings, 83 Ks, 41 BBs (!!!!), .298 average against!!!! Yikes. If there were never men on base, he’s Randy Johnson! Now, he could fix a lot of this with more experience, but it’s a lot to ask. I think just looking at BABIP is lazy (again, I do it myself in some of these ranks though! I don’t watch most pitchers as much as I watched Ray!), and there’s enough underlying here for me to pass on his asking price. You’ll get Ks! But they’ll be way too frustrating. Oh, and I traded Ray away in the REL around midseason… Pitcher Profile – April 25, 2016
66 Jonathan Gray, COL I’ve got a feeling I’m going to be the lowest on Gray. My shade will be the darkest of the 50. K rate was obviously phenomenal, and his WHIP was OK, but the ERA was bad, and it’s just friggin’ Coors man, I don’t know why people are buying. Put him on the Pads and he might flirt with my top-20! But as it stands, he’s stuck in a shituation I just can’t buy in, even though he’ll get another good helping of those Pads again in the NL West, who he torched for a 49:5 K:BB and 2.73 ERA 0.91 WHIP in 5 starts.
67 Jeremy Hellickson, PHI All about that change, that change, that change! One of the best pitches in baseball last year, oppos hit .168 against it, with 78 Ks in 191 ABs, good for a strikeout 38% of the time when it was the resulting pitch. That’s absurd! Overall a 7.33:2.14 K:BB which is fine, and nothing else was too lucky/unlucky for him vs. his 2016 numbers.
68 Adam Conley, MIA After seemingly fixing some control issues coming out of the Minors in 2015, struggled with a 4.19 BB rate last year. His Ks were awesome (8.37), but he’ll have to refine his control. That said, the stuff is good, he’s pretty young, and in a good park.
69 Mike Foltynewicz, ATL Verdict is still out on how the new Braves stadium is going to play out, but Folty showed a few signs of breaking out last year, and he’s certainly worth a last-round flier in 12ers, or an upside gamble in NL-only. Control has always been a bugaboo, but drastically improved it the past few seasons, having a shocking 8.10:2.55 K:BB in 2016. All other indicators look about even, so if he goes 180ish innings and just marginally improves, he could be a 4.00 ERA guy with 170 Ks. We all know he throws hard enough to where it could start coming together, and he took another big step forward in throwing his secondary stuff vs. leaning so heavy on the heater in 2016.
70 Brandon Finnegan, CIN Eww, Finnegan’s season long numbers! They’re rough! But his last 11 starts were saucy, posting a 2.23 ERA with a 64:28 K:BB in 60.2 innings. Sure, too many walks, but there’s a direct thing you can point to for that final run. As written about in a few places, his change-up vastly improved. He began 2016 throwing it a ton, but in the 85+ MPH range while his fastball hovered at 92ish MPH. Always want to see those closer to 10 MPH apart. So he virtually scrapped it for a while, until bringing it back with a force at the end, and the MPH started dropping from 83ish MPH to sub 82 the final two starts. When it was all said and done, the change-up was thrown 333 times and opps hit only .092 off it! All this said, I don’t think there’s massive upside, but a good backend fantasy pitcher here. Pitcher Profile – September 12, 2016
71 Garrett Richards, LAA This one is a total dart throw, and we’ll know more when I do my round of updates right when the season starts. He’s throwing now, everything seems good… And while he should have pitch counts, if he can be even close to some of his better stretches, this would be immense value. Maybe worth your last pick in 12ers as a flier that you just drop right away if he doesn’t seem right off the elbow injury.
72 Jordan Zimmermann, DET Like Aaron Nola, just older and way worse. After a complete mirage of a start – one that I had to fight commenters off of from raising him in my ranks – JZ collapsed, which he blamed on his neck and lat injuries. He’s healthy now, and if his velo looks like it’ll get back to at least 92+ on the fastball, I think there’s some bounceback potential here.
73 Reynaldo Lopez, CHW Yeah I know, this one is a wild card. But I dunno, I just have a weird feeling here. All the ingredients are there, so I’m a little surprised he was such a glossed-over part of that Eaton deal. While in 44 innings in the Majors he had a 4.91 ERA, in 109.1 innings in AA+AAA, 126 K:35 BB, and he has one of the best fastballs of any starter/SP prospect. He’s got a solid curve and a usable change too, just got a little unlucky in his first MLB stint with BABIP and strand rate, and probably a little nervous with an uncharacteristically bad walk rate. Now, he might start in AAA again, but I think he’ll be up before Giolito and be up soon. I’d be all over this in AL-only.
74 Jake Odorizzi, TB Eggs over easy had a good season – near 8 K rate, good ERA and WHIP – but he is just yawnstipating to me, plus has had two straight years of fortunate BABIP. That said, he’s a flyball pitcher, and they tend to have low BABIPs… But his xFIP has gone up 3 straight seasons, and I don’t really see upside.
75 Michael Pineda, NYY Nope. Nope, nope, nope. He’s like Robbie Ray, unreal metrics, great Ks, and he doesn’t even walk anyone! Although the BB rate did go up last year… He just has no command, and doesn’t have any sort of off-speed stuff. It’s fastball, change, cutter, all within about 8 MPH of each other. I know velo on the fastball went up, and you’ll probably get Ks, but it’s like Nolasco back in the day, I just don’t see the positive of Ks outweighing the ERA & WHIP drains. Pitcher Profile – September 1, 2014
76 Bartolo Colon, ATL This is what’s gonna happen – I’m going to finally rank Colon decent-ish, and this will be the year he collapses…
77 Drew Smyly, SEA Smyly make JB frowny… I liked him a ton last year, and he kept showing flashes, but just couldn’t put together a strong season. Even though he had a great K:BB (can you tell that’s one of my fav go-to stats?) none of the peripherals say his 4.88 ERA and 1.27 WHIP were unlucky. And that was in the Trop! Remains in a good park in SEA, and like Pineda and Ray should get Ks, but I don’t see a big reason to think the ERA and WHIP improve to make him a value.
78 Matt Moore, SF The Rays had some funky ish going on with their pitchers last year, that’s for sure! All of em didn’t pitch well at home, gave up homers… Was weird. Then Moore got to SF and the homer rate dropped, but even with facing pitchers, his BB rate went wayyyy up to 4.21. It was a small sample, but I’ve never been a Moore guy due to his inconsistencies. Pitcher Profile – July 13, 2015
79 Marco Estrada, TOR The metrics finally all caught up! After a good start, was a 4.12 ERA pitcher from June on, with a good K rate but 39 walks in 109.1 innings. His velo dropped at least 1 MPH across the board, and he had a herniated disc in his back. Eesh, yeah it’s not a good combination to where I think his anti-metrics success will come back.
80 Adam Wainwright, STL He’s 35, off a bad season, and I’m not expecting a ton. That said, velo actually went back up last year, and he had an unlucky BABIP and HR rate. Walk rate was worst in his career though, as it looks like he may be in the twilight, but there’s enough here for a flier. I wouldn’t be surprised if name value has him drafted higher though.
81 Gio Gonzalez, WAS We pretty much know what Gio is at this point – near 9 K-rate, but a bad WHIP and too hittable in stretches. Now, he did get his BB rate below 3 for the first time in his career which is somewhat interesting, but it was at the cost of 1.2 MPH on his fastball yet very little drop on the change. You know me and speed differences on those pitches! Hah.
82 Jharel Cotton, OAK Everything screams “sleeper!” to me, so I’ll bet he’s ranked a lot of places a little higher. Hit the ground running in his first 5 starts last year, maintained great K:BBs in the Minors, but I don’t recall his stuff being “that” electric and I think he’s the kind of guy that will start strong, but struggle through the adjustment the league makes. Kinda a gut call, or you could say I’m going a little bit on feel with Cotton.
83 Sonny Gray, OAK Yeah, he had a lot of unlucky things go against him – horrible HR rate, bad BABIP, etc., but at the same time, he’s dropped his K rate for 3 straight season and had a career-worst BB rate. Not exactly the trend you want! The A’s are probably going to be pretty bad again, and Gray dealt with a forearm issue to end 2016. I’m likely passing, but would be worth a deeper-league flier if everyone else is passing too.
84 Josh Hader, MIL I felt like I had to get one true prospect who hasn’t pitched in the Majors yet in here, so why not from my own team?! The Brewers really don’t have much more to do with him in the Minors – he owned AA, and struggled at first in AAA ( almost entirely due to our horrid AAA affiliate being in Col. Springs) but then got through it. So it doesn’t make sense to me to have us keep him in high altitude and mess with his confidence, or send him to AA where he’s proven he’s beyond that level. I could see him cracking the rotation sooner than later, and he’s gonna be an awesome Ks source.
85 Lance Lynn, STL Lynn got a couple starts in the Minors last year, and all signs point to him being healthy. He’s been a decent K guy with good ERAs, only thing is he’s a WHIP killer with 3+ BB rates almost every season in his career, and I worry how his command will translate. NL-only should play close attention to Spring though – he could be a steal in deeper formats.
86 Jaime Garcia, ATL Meh, just never been a Jaime guy. We all know getting even close to 200 innings ain’t happening, and while he had an obscene HR/FB (20.2% in 171.2 innings, wowzer!), walks went way up and I just don’t see a big enough reason to keep him in the standard league discussion. Pitcher Profile – June 9, 2014
87 Hisashi Iwakuma, SEA Yeesh, running through the favorite pitchers of 2014 these last few! Hah! K rate dwindling, BB rate over 2 for the first time in his career, velo down, always too homer prone, and going to be 36 most of this year. Pass on the dashi!
88 Collin McHugh, HOU I struggled with this one, since McHugh – while losing a lot of that luster from the 2014 breakout – still has a lot of the right ingredients. 8.63:2.63 K:BB last year, no big velo changes, just another high BABIP like 2015. But the line drive rate remains over 20% every season, and he just seems too streaky and hittable when I watch him pitch, that I don’t feel like he suddenly breaks back out again. Pitcher Profile – April 28, 2014
89 Ian Kennedy, KC McHugh and Kennedy are mad similar… They might be twins! Good Ks, too many hits, although Kennedy is more extreme with the flyballs. While Ks are still good, BB remain high, and a lot of factors said Kennedy should’ve posted a career-worst season (per FIP and xFIP). Velo spike was nice, but he’s 32, on a fading team, meh I don’t see upside.
90 Ervin Santana, MIN An opening day starter this late, draft him immediately! Well, if that were the case, there’s some great values for the Pad’s SP too! I mean, Santana is mad lame, but had a good K:BB, nothing was too lucky in his peripherals as he posted a 3.38 ERA last year, and might’ve been a surprise on the player rater if he didn’t get bogged down by only 7 wins. While the Twins are probably still gonna be fairly bad, that’s a pretty low tally for the kind of 2016 he had.
91 Joe Musgrove, HOU He might not be in the rotation out of Spring, but despite a huge high then massive low in his 2016 debut, he still carried over a great K:BB that he showed in the Minors, and overall did pretty well. I think the K upside is what’s lacking to make him a great post-hype sleeper (yeah, you can use post-hype even when he’s barely played, because everyone freaks out if a prospect isn’t good right away), but you might land a #3 or #4 for your rotation for most of the year if he’s in the rotation pretty quick.  Pitcher Profile – August 8, 2016
92 Dan Straily, MIA One of 2016’s more improbable performances, Straily got boosted up by an insane .239 BABIP to post a 7.56 K rate and 3.76 ERA in 191.1 innings and 14 wins. 14 wins on the Reds! His xFIP ended up being 5.02 too! That said, he gets to move to Crayola Canyon, and might be semi-usable.
93 Luke Weaver, STL Exploding onto the scene with a fantastic AA campaign last year, Weaver was decent in his first 36.1 innings, but it looks worse thanks to a .386 BABIP and 21.2% HR rate. Yikes, two Cards starters had HR rates over 20%! Hah! Now with Reyes out for the year, it’s between he and Wacha for a starting spot, and with Wacha having that shoulder issue where it keeps breaking – literally – I think Weaver could be the 5th guy sooner than later.
94 Robert Gsellman, NYM I’m just not a Gbuyman. Had never been a K guy while coming up through the Minors, and while some pitchers can surprise with adding more strikeouts late as they develop, I just don’t think he’s a mixed league play yet. More than happy to nab him in NL-only, and the velocity is intriguing, but I need to see him get strikeouts and succeed in the Majors before Gbuying.
95 Charlie Morton, HOU Yeah, yeah, I argue about strikeouts then rank a pumpkin like Morton… He’s a groundballer, and probably so far off everyone’s radar that they’re pissed he’s taken Musgrove’s spot, but Morton has transformed as a pitcher. He’s made mechanical changes, and in his brief 2016, was throwing absolute gas, averaging 94.3 MPH on the sinking fastball. Plus he has a 89.9 MPH cutter now! And even with the heat, in his small sample 2016, he was throwing the off-speed stuff a lot more, which could make him a usable K source. His 2016 ended early due to a terrible, fluke hamstring injury covering first, so it’s not like his arm had issues throwing harder in his older age. I’m excited to see where this goes.
96 Jose De Leon, TB Love his stuff, love the Ks, but we just don’t know when we’ll see him, and he’s got a little back injury right now  which pushes back his early camp work. He only pitched 103.1 innings last year in AAA and the Majors, so I think the Rays are going to treat him with extreme kid’s gloves. I work right next to where the Durham Bulls play, so I’ll do some live scouting this year :)
97 Andrew Triggs, OAK Man, where did Oakland get there outta nowhere starter intriguers?! Is intriguers a word?! He has some amazing K:BB ratios through the Minors, and in his brief 56.1 innings in the Majors last year, 8.79:2.08 K:BB. Now, a lot of that was out of the bullpen, but damn, in his 7 starts, 2.70 ERA 0.79 WHIP, 23:1 K:BB. Whoa nelly! That said, he’s a 90.5 fastball guy relying heavily on his cutter as the main off-speed, so I kinda think he could go through a bad adjustment stretch. Pretty interesting to monitor though.
98 Jesse Chavez, LAA This will be another off-the-beaten-path option that I find kinda intriguing. Pitched solely out of the bullpen last year, and had his best K:BB (8.46:2.42) of his career. ERA and WHIP got a little inflated by BABIP and homers, but his velo ramped way back up to 93.2 on the fastball and by far a career best 91.5 with the cutter, so I’m kinda hoping for one of those David Phelps-esque steps forward, with the faith he can still throw hard back in the rotation. This might be his last opportunity to start, and he’s in a good park, so I see some sneaky AL-only value here.
99 Luis Severino, NYY Ugh, Severino is like Pineda, but even worse! Great Ks, decent BB rate, just gets murdered when it’s in the zone. High BABIP, high HR rate, and just like Pineda, doesn’t have enough of a velocity mix. 96.1 fastball, 88.3 slider, 88.9 change-up. Just no range there, so hitters aren’t kept off-balance. He said he devoted his off-season to the change-up, and pure ability is there, so he barely cracks the ranks on upside, but I’m likely passing until really late in deepers. Pitcher Profile – August 31, 2015
100 Lucas Giolito, CHW Holy hell, we’re at the end! I had a few more vet names that I decided to kick out for the upside of Giolito, and hoping that the change of scenery after a horrible 2016 campaign will be enough to have him a be a big impactor in the second half. I still like Lopez more for this season because I think he’s up sooner, but damn the White Sox made some good moves this off-season to rebuild.

Thanks for reading, Razzball Nation!  And as always, my ranks remain fluid with your thoughts and opinions as well.  Let me know which guys I need to tweak as we prepare for the season, and of course let me know if I have any egregious typos or a team wrong or something.  After spending weeks on this, my brain is a little mush!  Anyway, thanks again for stopping by, and happy pitching for 2017!

 
  1. henncoop says:
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    Finally JB …I always look forward to your take on SP. I usually closely compare yours with Grey’s & my own take on things & hopefully in that synthesis of the 3 …somewhere …lies the truth …the holy grail to lead me to the promised land.
    Thanks for your take on SP ….love your analysis & breakdown of various SPs throughout the season.

    • JB Gilpin

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      @henncoop: Haha, when we combine forces, we make, CAPTAIN PLANET! Thanks for reading, and hopefully the synthesis of the 3 creates a SP monster!

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        @JB Gilpin: I feel like my 1st 5X5 12 team roto draft did pretty well compared to your list with a few of your sleepers.
        30 player teams drafted over a week ago
        Pitching looks like this:
        Archer (pick 53)
        Giles (92)
        Meada (101)
        Dyson (125)
        Gausman (140)
        Lackey (164)
        Nola (173)
        Pineda (197)
        J Johnson (236)
        Lynn (245)
        Madison (269)
        Skaggs (293)
        Norris (308)
        J Hammel (332)
        Love to hear your comments

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          @henncoop: Mannnn, love the Maeda value! Lackey and Hammel on some really solid values, and love Skaggs and Norris as upside late guys. I’m not as big on Archer or Gausman, where you got Gausman is OK, but I’m kinda worried about Archer

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            @JB Gilpin: Hoping for a bounceback on Archer …felt he was good for the 200 innings & a ton of K’s. I guess I was hoping to balance out the risk with Maeda & Lackey types ( & even Hammel)

            I appreciate the constructive comments. Still have several drafts to go …glad to be armed with your list especially your sleeper picks

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          @henncoop:I knew I had a few of the sleepers …I missed Nova @ pick 260

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            @henncoop: Yeah as I mention above, I kinda worry hitters are kinda figuring out how to approach him, but we’ll see. Any time man, good luck in the rest of your drafts and hope to see you in the weekly updates through the season!

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    Points league favoring pitchers I’m keeping verlander in the 7th, degrom in the 15th, maeda in the 13th, Rodon in the 27th, Sanchez in the 17th and tallion in the 28th. It favors pitching and everyone draft pitchers early should I feel comfortable with these pitchers and go all hitters in the draft and take guys like cotton, skaggs, etc. later? If you had to trade one of these pitchers for a hitter who would it be? I could also keep snell in the 27th instead of one that I named just worried about wins and losses. Verlander scares me. I want to try to trade verlander for yu. Should I feel comfortable trading verlander for as solid later round hitter?

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      @Jimmy: Damn, that’s quite a value for your rotation! Yeah I would feel pretty good with that staff, and likely not draft many pitchers early unless another big value presented itself. Yeah I think Verlander would be the first pitcher I would trade too, but then would be looking for a pitcher in the draft if moved for a bat. Def would take Yu over him. Snell vs. Rodon in points… I like Snell more in roto, but Rodon should pitch more innings… Eh, I still think I would keep Snell over him

  3. Count de Monetball says:
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    Very niiiice JB! I llike your rankings a lot, especially YU, I waited what seemed like FOR-EV-ER, FOR-EV-ER for him to come off the DL last year and I believe as well for ’17, maybe not quite that high, but whatev……So with the way the cubbies’ pitchers dominated last year collectively, obviously the cubs D played a big part of most/all of their pitchers outperforming their FIP. As such, it looks like there may be some good streamer value or late draft picks for …. Gulp…. Brett Anderson… and Mike Montgomery. Maddon appears to have little patience (protects?) in the bottom of his rotation and pulls them early (not too painful for IP cap leagues, but not s’much for RCL’s). However, in RCL’s obviously it’s nice to augment SP’s and Closers with MR’s and it is likely that both will get some MR ops throughout the season. Since it is likely that both Anderson and Monty will both get a fair number of starts and relief innings, these would be tough guys to hold for long, but probably worth a gamble on one or the other depending who it looks like will start the season at #5. I was wondering, if you truly thought Monty would start for most of the season, where would you generally rank him? I typically take a “swing man” in my 10-team roto 5×5 since they vulture wins, are usually ratio helpers, get more innings than typical MR’s particularly if they play in front of a good D. Yeah, I just convinced myself, I’m drafting Monty in the last few rounds (maybe Anderson too if he looks “healthy” out of ST… so yeah, prolly not).

    • JB Gilpin

      JB Gilpin says:
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      @Count de Monetball: Thanks man! Yeah there’s just so much upside for Yu to flirt with like 275 Ks, that I had to do it.

      Yeah since there’s no clarity there, that’s indeed why I left off both of the Cubs #5 pitchers. Well I ranked based on RCL rules where there’s a start limit, so if he’s not starting, I just dunno why I would hold him over shuffling between all the other hooblah in RP. Not to say I wouldn’t stream him some of the time, but the long relief guys don’t pitch every other day when needed like the 8th inning guys with more K upside, it would be like 2 days a week of 3 innings. If you told me Mikey M is the 5th starter the whole year, I think he might flirt with… top-70 or so?

  4. Ante GALIC says:
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    JB!!!

    Well done, Magna Carta part trois.

    Gonna love Nova, Pax and Morton as my #3-5!! Also will love Manaea too.

    Cheers,
    Ante

    • JB Gilpin

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      @Ante GALIC: Thanks man, appreciate ya reading! Sounds good, those are gonna be my favorites for sure as well!

  5. muskysmell says:
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    Justin Verlander at #8…I have no words….LOL, wow.

    Fun list still, keep up the good work!

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      @muskysmell: I’m guessing you think that’s too high?! :) Grey has him 9! I feel like I’m not that high or low on him….

      Hah thanks for reading!

  6. John Sperber says:
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    Who would you guys keep between Buxton, Benintendi, or Mazara. I do have 3 other outfielders who are my only source of speed, Betts, Pollock and Polanco.
    Thanks for the help.

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      @John Sperber: I’d keep Benintendi. I think he has the most upside, plus might be hitting 2nd in that BoSox order this year. Buxton might have the highest ceiling – well all 3 have pretty high ceilings – but I like Tendi

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        Thanks a lot, that was the way I was leaning

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          JB Gilpin says:
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          @John Sperber: sounds good! Any time!

  7. Tigres says:
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    JB! Love your pitcher ranks and weekly articles! I’m on the J-Gray bandwagon this year, in large part bc his results were much better at Coors last year (3.16 FIP, 1.12 WHIP, K/9 10+) than on the road. Would love to see you do pitcher profile for him, if you haven’t already.

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      @Tigres: Haven’t done a Jon Gray one, sounds like a good target for an early season edition! Yeah he was better at home, but I wonder how much of that was just a smaller sample of 14 starts and 83.2 innings. Still gave up 9 homers and had a 4.30 ERA at home, I’m still worried Coors is gonna keep him from fully breaking out, as he would if on a normal team

  8. First Lady of the Nation says:
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    3 days earlier than last year you old scamp! Well done sir.

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      JB Gilpin says:
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      @First Lady of the Nation: Hahaha thanks man! Yeah I went real slow through the top 30 or so, then realized I needed to get cranking this past week and get er done. Appreciate ya reading!

        • The Great Knoche says:
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          @JB Gilpin: 6 Girl Readers!

            • First Lady of the Nation says:
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              @JB Gilpin: hahaha it’s actually abbreviated version of my full FB name First Lady of the Nation (not of California) .. I’m a man dude.

  9. Cram It says:
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    And we’re back on the Pax-train! Okay, THIS is the last time I’m taking him for a ride.

    Also glad to see you’re not as high on Gausman as most. I watch him pitch a lot being in Baltimore. Sure he throws hard, but so does Nate Eovaldi.

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      @Cram It: You got off the Pax-Train? Only thing I don’t like is he’s a “sleeper” everywhere. He won’t be a value with anyone that pays attention.

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        @Cram It: @The Great Knoche: Choo choo! Ride the Pax train with me all the way to Canadian glory! Haha. Kinda agree that maybe he’s not a sleeper with all the love, but I still think I have him higher than most.

        Yeah Gausman’s numbers were good, but yeah I’m with ya, nothing is like, uber-sharp or electric. Just the speed.

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        @The Great Knoche: I got off after owning him the last two years. I think he’s still value. I don’t see anyone drafting him as a #3.

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          JB Gilpin says:
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          @The Great Knoche: @Cram It: Yeah I could see that he spurned so many people that he’s getting deflated. Kinda like what I said in his blurb that a lot of people might have the “been there, done that” attitude with him

  10. M says:
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    Great post JB-I was with you on the J.Ross train last year. Looks like Paxton is your J.Ross this year (hopefully with better results). Also, if Chris Devenski gets a spot in the Stros rotation where would he rank on this list, 50ish? Reports say the Astros haven’t fully committed to his role yet

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      @M: Haha I hope he has better results too! At least the Ross train didn’t really hurt anyone, he was usable-enough for a little, then got hurt.

      Ehhhh, I wouldn’t go that high. I think Musgrove would get a spot before Devenski… Like his stuff, but kinda lukewarm with what he might do as a starter this yr

  11. Chud says:
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    JB,

    Great job as always but I just traded Verlander for Taillon in a full salary keeper (saved $20 of cap space which was needed) and was hoping you would be all in on the Taillon Stallion! I know your love for the K/BB ratios and he fits the bill…..along with that 94 MPH fastball! What are your concerns? Too much of a hard contact rate?

    Would also like your opinion on a trade in my full keeper: I give Abreu ($16) and get Archer ($10).

    Your hard work to the SP articles is much appreciated!

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      @Chud: Thanks for reading! Yeah in a salary keeper to save that much money, I like that deal. Kinda what I said on Gausman, nothing is really that “crisp”. I think he’ll be solid, but I don’t see him suddenly being a Cy contender.

      I’d probably keep Abreu, but the values seem about even, if you needed Ks/a pitcher, I think it fits for team needs

  12. The Great Knoche says:
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    About time! Joe Ross still sucks.

    Completely with you on Skaggs. I mentioned that to Grey in his top 80-100 starters that he was the guy to be on way down the board. He hasn’t been healthy since 2012. 5 Years of pain! He gets the walks under control, and yeah I think he has top 40 potential. Look at those K/BB ratios in the Diamondbacks sytem. Yummy.

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      @The Great Knoche: Hey now! Joe Ross is OK! I think he can still be a little bit of a value.

      Yessir on Skaggs! I had him like 60-70 at first, then the more I wrote his blurb and looked at the numbers again, I kept moving him up. A ton of upside with your last pick in redrafts

  13. Tim says:
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    Love this list! I have Sale (3) and Verlander (5) as my keeper pitchers this year. Someone offered Moncada (18) for Sale. Should I do it? Hate to lose an ace but the prospect of having the next elite player at such a cheap keeper price tag is just so tempting…

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      @Tim: Thanks man, appreciate it! Damn a good start with the aces up top! Whewwwww, 18th for Moncada, yeah great value… Ummmm, is there keeper-round inflation year to year? I think I’m probably doing it

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        @JB Gilpin: Keepers inside the top 10 graduate 1 round and outside the top 10 graduate 2 every year. So, if Moncada is the superstar he’s projected to be then even after 3 years he’s still a round 12 keeper. Awesome value. Just scary to deal someone of Sale’s quality!

        My other keepers are Goldy (1) Betts (9) G. Sanchez (12) and T. Turner (19). I’m just loving how deep pitching is this year and I can load up on the Nolas, Paxtons, McCullers, Rodons, Grays of the world.

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          @Tim: I would do it with those rules, Sale might not even be a keeper nect year in the second round. Oh man, those values on Betts and Turner?!??!?! Yeah you can afford to go upside again with another hitter

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            @JB Gilpin: I know, pretty pumped about those two! Thanks for the help.

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              JB Gilpin says:
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              @Tim: Any time!

  14. Bas says:
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    Hi all,
    Keeper question here: in my 5×5 12 teamer (we keep max 8)
    I have this offer: I give Altuve and can pick 2 of the following list: Scherzer, Murphy, Seager(LA), Syndergaard and Villar.
    My other keepers are: Lester, Rizzo, Cespedes, dozier, Segura and 1 or 2 of Jupton, Salazar, K.Davis, W.Davis and Kimbrell.

    Any thoughts?
    Thanks, Bas from Holland

    • Cram It says:
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      @Bas: If I were to do it, I’d take Noah and Seager. But I think I’d hold Altuve there.

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        @Bas: @Cram It: Yeah I’m holding Altuve too. I would probably take Seager and Scherzer, maybe if Scherzer was 100% I’d consider it. Plus now you have MI completely covered!

        • Cram It says:
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          @JB Gilpin: Noah Syndergaard is going to have a 5 year run where he is the best pitcher in baseball. #MetsHomerism

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            @Cram It: Hahaha we’ll see… That is, if they don’t make a long playoff run in that span and burn him out :)

            • Cram It says:
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              @JB Gilpin: He can never pitch again if he gets me a World Series.

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                @Cram It: Hahaha yeah he could just retire after that

  15. zombie says:
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    Thanks so much, JB. Look forward to this annually. Like many, I also employ the Grey-JB-zombie concoction recipe for my personal draft day rankings. Had Darvish higher than most as well. Surprised that thus far when mocking, Paxton, Maeda & Snell seem to still be under the radar. But that’s on ESPN. About half of the participants bail half way through the draft; prior to when those guys should be going. So it’s sort of difficult to gauge interest in those “sleepers”. Besides, if I don’t finish in the bottom 25% of an ESPN mock I get concerned. Thanks again though, for your valuable adjustments to many of our rankings!

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      @zombie: Appreciate ya stepping by! Glad to be part of the concoction! Agree, I think I’ll be a good bit higher on those than the masses, especially Snell, I don’t think he has much sleeper appeal based on what other sources I’ve gandered

  16. The Vaporizers says:
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    Although they were posted a smidge late, thanks for the rankings, JB. They look pretty good but I don’t agree with all of the rankings. Several players are ranked off by a just small smidge of where I’d rank them. Then some other are ranked about a medium smidge away and we have large smidges of differences in some or our rankings.

    Oh, and one more smidgen of a thought; you say smidge waaaaaaaaay to smidgen much

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      JB Gilpin says:
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      @The Vaporizers: Hahahaha well done with the comment. I’ll try to be a smidge better with my vocabulary :) When you do these in pieces over like 3 weeks, you can get a smidge repetitive :)

  17. Cheese says:
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    Salazar quote – “After two straight years keeping the K-rate under 3, it was 4.13 in 2016. ”

    I assume you mean BB-rate?

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      JB Gilpin says:
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      @Cheese: Aha! Yup I knewI would have a few typos/mistakes I missed when editing, thanks for the catch! Fixing now

      • Cheese says:
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        @JB Gilpin: Haha np, not being a grammar nazi, just protecting you from them ;). Otherwise, great work, your pitcher rankings are usually my favourite Razzball updates. I hope they are as frequent as last year!

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          JB Gilpin says:
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          @Cheese: Oh not at all! I’ve seen a lot of bloggers whine when people catch mistakes, I’m like, “please tell me ASAP!” If you let me know, I can fix em before others see em! Haha.

          Appreciate that man, yup I’ll be doing weekly updates every week again!

  18. CMUTimmah says:
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    JB and I are kindred spirits this year. These ranks are nearly spot on with my draft bored, and I completely understand his reasoning. And the few places we are off, I’m kind of being swayed to his method of thinking.
    MIght be a touch high on Verlander, but he was so good last year, and Kate has promised to keep her hands off him on game days… so there’s a lot to like there.

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      @CMUTimmah: Bored? Clearly I’m not awake yet.

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        @CMUTimmah: Wow, thanks so much man, really appreciate it! Glad we’re really close in a lot of areas! Except if I were Verlander, I would want those hands on me every day haha

  19. A TreaTur Among Us says:
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    Pick one and a runner up to keep between Manaea, Matz, Gausman, and Teheran in a 14-Team H2H Keep 9 Forever League. I just took over this team so I’m looking more towards the long term since I’m not sure how competitive my team will be this year.

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      @A TreaTur Among Us: Gotcha, I know I might be in the minority, but I’ll go Manaea 1, Matz 2. Teheran is getting up there and losing velo, and I’m just not as much a Gausmna guy. I bet he would be 1 or 2 for most

      • A TreaTur Among Us says:
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        @JB Gilpin: I’m with you on Gausman. Rankings everywhere scream that I should keep him but I still don’t trust the park or the way O’s handle their pitchers.

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          @A TreaTur Among Us: Right there with ya as well. Feel like the last great O’s pitcher was that one season from Erik Bedard haha

  20. PublicEnemy#1 says:
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    Keep OHerrera ($5) or KHendricks ($14)? We only keep three players and I already have Machado ($13) and Correa ($1). Our league is a 16-teamer, standard 13 hitter lineup and 9 pitchers with a $250 cap for your starting 22. We use QS instead of Wins.

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      @PublicEnemy#1: I like the call on Manaea. Great point about Snell vs. McCullers, and I’m all over Skaggs as a late draft lightning in a bottle pick.

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        @PublicEnemy#1: @PublicEnemy#1: I’d def take Hendricks, while I built in some regression, I still think he’s going to be a solid asset, especially with QS. Not a bit Odubel guy…

        Thanks man, appreciate the ranks look pretty good this round, hopefully 2 of those 3 hit!

  21. Tweak says:
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    I’m completely on board with this Verlander ranking. I liked him a lot going into last year. People seem to forget just how dominant he was, not just with velo (100MPH fastball in the 8th inning!?!), but also with stuff. He’s always been a good pitcher, not just a thrower. I’ve attributed his struggles in the last couple of years to the core muscle surgery he had; it takes a long time to heal from that surgery, especially because those muscles are so critical to basically any physical/athletic activity.

    This is also why I’m avoiding Kole Calhoun like the plague this year.

    • JB Gilpin

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      @Tweak: Yup I did too! Grey had him 64 last year!!! http://razzball.com/pitcher-profile-recapping-2016s-starting-pitching-jbsgreysespns-2016-sp-ranks/

      Agreed, he had injury-plagued offseasons, velo dropped, then when it hopped back up to finish 2015 and he had a healthy offseason, i was a buyer.

      With ya on Calhoun, even if he had a healthy offseason, his low upside just isn’t worth it in 10/12ers. Maybe AL only as a steady guy, but only if he stayed healthy, I’m passing too

  22. Duda Want to Build a Snowman? says:
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    Great great list, JB! So many thoughts!

    1. LUUURVE that Yu ranking (particularly since i just traded an expensive kershaw for $18 yu and $9 desmond!). Here’s hoping he gets traded to, or signs next year, with an NL team so we can see him challenge Kershaw at the top!

    2, Agreed on Maeda too – he could be real beastly just doing more of the same.

    3. I think I’m higher on Duffy than you by a little . . . he got tired last year, that’s all.

    4. Loving the paxton and manaea love (totally agreed). I’m targeting pax like my #2, but paying much less of course. I like pairing him with a “safer” innings guy like Lackey. And between guys Duffy, Paxton, Lackey, Manaea, Nova (WILDLY high but I’m digging it), I’m planning to spend very very little on pitching this year in H2H category leagues.

    5. Shoemaker and Gsellmen I’m buying moreso – both guys changed their pitch mix or added the fabled W-slider right before their stats started trending up fast. Both are dirt cheap too.

    6. Nola – don’t believe it was just injury? I’ve read comparisons to Rich Hill re: what he was doing pre-injury with his pitch mix etc. (which would be cool)

    7. Urias – I sort of like him more in H2H leagues, because it sounds like the Dodgers want to save him for the playoff run and use him less early on. Maybe that means more H2H playoff starts?

    8. Richards is feeling more and more to me like Tanaka did the first season after his elbow thing. For the dirt cheap $1-2 he’s been rated at by ESPN etc, I’ll take a shot. Should be evident pretty quickly if he’s back or not.

    9. Ervin – I will say this, the dude was a QS machine last year.

    Great job!!

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      @Duda Want to Build a Snowman?: Glad it’s got the pitcher brain working! Thanks for reading!

      1. Whoaaaaa, what a deal! Yeah I think on the Pod I mentioned what if he gets signed by the Dodgers, who then have Kershaw/Darvish as their 1/2? Hah!
      2. Give him innings!!!!
      3. Maybe, but it’s still a concern he hasn’t done a full workload. Not to say he couldn’t, I still like him a lot, but it’s baked into the rank.
      4. Yup, my plan too! I know Nova I mighta gone a little nuts for :) We’ll see!
      5. Maybe, Shoemaker I still point to how he changed the pitch mix, was dominant, then was kinda just OK as a #4 on your fantasy team or so the last couple months. Gsellman has a huge range of outcomes, I kinda wanna see more before I start vaulting him in the weekly updates.
      6. Still worried about that arm and elbow, we’ll see though.
      7. I’ve seen they want him to start in the rotation too. Agree in H2H he might be a little more valuable.
      8. Agreed, it’s worth a gamble that late. Grey has him like 120 haha.
      9. That he was! If he got wins, he woulda shocked even more with his finishing rank.

      Thanks man!

  23. Christian Herman says:
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    Rank these 4 names
    For whom the bell tolls
    Dansby Samsonite
    Brewing Hader-ade
    Hader-ade or Wada

    Currently have brewing hader-ade

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      JB Gilpin says:
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      @Christian Herman: Hah, you know Hader’s twitter is “Josh Haderade tm” with the trademark hahahaha. https://twitter.com/jhader17

      You listen to the CBS podcast? I have horrid commutes so I listen to that one, I like Dansby Samsonite as well, it’s clever :)

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        @JB Gilpin: I listen to those clowns Bc you & grey don’t pop adderall & do podcasts every day lol

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          @Christian Herman: Hahaha I’m with ya man, they give daily content which is nice. I think they do a good job

  24. Duda Want to Build a Snowman? says:
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    Also, Grey/JB – which side do you like in this keeper (+$3) league trade, standard roto?

    My Desmond ($9) and Dahl ($10) for his Altuve ($15).

    If I had Altuve, I’d be keeping a $6 Khris in lieu of the traded Dahl.

    Thanks!

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      @Duda Want to Build a Snowman?: Whewwwwww. That one is pretty close, LOVE desmond. I think I’d take best player in the deal though in Altuve, but it’s a close one

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        @JB Gilpin: Thanks! Yeah it’s a tough one (though I like Khris and the idea of having him cheap).

        I’m leaning Altuve, but it HURTS–though I like the pairing of him and his BA with my SS keeper, Story.

        What sort of line do you expect from Desmond?

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          @Duda Want to Build a Snowman?: Yeah cheap K Davis isn’t bad at all if you do the deal. Damn yeah, that would be a crazy pair! Evens out the average, great power, great speed… Desmond, ummm, maybe like 28 homers, 95 runs 100 RBI, 15 steals, and he goes .285 again?

  25. Malicious Phenoms says:
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    Good stuff JB, as always..I have nothing to say on pitching.

    Just thought I would let you know, in case you don’t know, like anyone really cares, anyhoo, The Mets backup QB, Tebow hit NINE homers in BP yesterday…That is all..

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      @Malicious Phenoms: Hah thanks man! Nothing to say on pitching?! Pitching is wonderous!

      Hahahaha, yeah I can’t believe that was a Rotoworld headline, how many homers Tebow hit in BP… Hah.

  26. primetime says:
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    JB. Great article. Would you trade Strausburg for a 1st and 3rd rd picks & my choice of Gausman or Jon Gray. This is a keeper league where we keep 7 guys. So this 1st rounder would be top 80. Ton of young talent on the board. His first pick his 3rd overall, great hitters available.

    I just traded Duffy for a 6th rd pick. I do own Kershaw, Salazar which I would keep. Others on my team are Bundy, Lackey, Shoemaker etc.. Those guys are not keep status though.

    Lastly, I could flip that 3rd rd pick from him and go after Harvey or Matz to name a couple guys.

    Thoughts?

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      @primetime: Thanks for reading! Yeah sounds like with the talent available, I would probably do that and take the picks. Ummmm, I think I might just hold that 3rd round pick and see what happens, kinda lukewarm on both those Mets

  27. dhouse42 says:
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    shhhhhh stop telling people about yu darvish ive been getting him 4th-5th round!!!

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      @dhouse42: Hahaha sorry man! I’ll redact that part :)

  28. dhouse42 says:
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    same for nova, he’s literally going undrafted!

    • Cram It says:
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      @dhouse42: @dhouse42: Are you basing these things off of mock drafts with strangers that leave after the 3rd round? Any competitive league, these things should change!

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        @dhouse42: @Cram It: Is Nova really going in RCLs?

        • The great Knoche says:
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          @JB Gilpin: he wasn’t before, but he will now.

          • Cram It says:
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            @JB Gilpin: @The great Knoche: How do we know if he is or wasn’t? Are RCL’s drafting already?

            • The great knoche says:
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              @Cram It: @JB Gilpin: They are, but I’m just guessing that the JB effect will occur in some drafts going forward.

              • Cram It says:
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                @The great knoche: Damn, that’s crazy early for a real draft.

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                  @Cram It: It is, but I always like to do one early to get a lay of the land. My first one is tomorrow night. Rest are couple days before season.

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                    @Cram It: @The great knoche: Yeah figured some would be going soon, for exactly that reason knoche lays out

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                      @Cram It: @JB Gilpin: Ivan Nova 22nd round average so far. Watch him climb to the teens!

  29. Ace of Spades says:
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    JB

    Great work as usual. But you’ve put doubt and confusion into my plans. I play in a 14 team mixed auction standard 5×5 where you can keep up to 10 keepers ( dollar rates inflate each year )

    Guys I am keeping: S Marte – 31$ , Kepler – 10$, Buxton – 8$, Odor – 12$ , Lamb – 3$ , B Miller – 6$, Grandal – 3$, Carrasco – 14$
    Guys I have been on fence with ( can keep 2 ) : J Pederson – 14$, Pineda – 11$, Manaea – 10$, Shoemaker – 10$, A Miller – 11$ , Conley – 3$

    My dilemma is this, Grey A. has already suggested that my next two be Pederson and Pineda. I am a Yankee fan and know how brilliant Pineda can be, and how brilliant he hasn’t been. I had decided to take Greys advice and was all set to go ( keepers must be announced by Mar. 18th ) but your high ranking on Manaea and low ranking on Pineda, with the logic you use in your write ups, has me doubting that this is the way to go. Also, no one has given Conley much love this year, but your write up on him gives me reason to believe that keeping him for 3$ isn’t the worst thing in the world.
    Which on the fence guys would you keep? anyone that I am keeping that you don’t thing belongs their ? Your input would be appreciated. Also, if he happens to read this, was wondering what Cram it ( always has entertaining insight ) would do in this situation.
    Thanks in advance and keep up the great work.

    • Cram It says:
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      @Ace of Spades: Hey thanks AoS. My two cents is if that’s Yasmani Grandal, I would throw him back. Then you could keep Pederson, Pineda and Manaea. Conley is maybe a guy you can get back or find replaceable value for.

      • JB Gilpin

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        @Ace of Spades: @Cram It: Haha sorry man, would never want to put that kind of doubt in there! Just remember I’m just one schmohawk’s opinion :) Obviously in my opine, I would def be keeping Manaea over Pineda.

        I think I might as well just hold Grandal, but I get where Cram It is coming from. I would keep Manaea and Pederson.

        • Cram It says:
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          @JB Gilpin: To hell with catchers I say. Looking forward to ‘Perty ‘Perts, buddy!

          • JB Gilpin

            JB Gilpin says:
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            @Ace of Spades: @Cram It: Hah mostly agree, but in a 14er to get one so cheap and not have to worry about it… It’s got some value.

            Yeah man, me too! I’m gonna try a weird draft this year, we’ll see how it goes :)

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              @JB Gilpin: See I feel because it is a 14 teamer, pitching is a little thinner and there are comparable catchers to Grandal. Anywho!

              I like it. I’ve thought about doing something funky as well but maybe I’ll try that in the less prestigious RCL.

            • Ace of Spades says:
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              @JB Gilpin: Thanks JB.

      • Ace of Spades says:
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        @Cram It: Thanks for the advice

        • JB Gilpin

          JB Gilpin says:
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          @Cram It: @Ace of Spades: Any time! Look forward to the Pert draft Mr. Cram

  30. CMUTimmah says:
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    Is it just me, or is Ervin Santana a late round “value” every year?

    • JB Gilpin

      JB Gilpin says:
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      @CMUTimmah: Probably is! Unsexy K rate and the fact he’s old has no one interested every year….

  31. westcoastpete says:
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    You gotta take a look at that Cotton change-up!

  32. FrankGrimes says:
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    I still say that dude from pitcherlist ripped you off!

    • JB Gilpin

      JB Gilpin says:
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      @FrankGrimes: Hahaha it’s possible! When I started, I don’t think GIFs were that en vogue yet, it’s cool they’re catching on tho!

  33. jon says:
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    Not a Quintana fan eh?

    how does my pitching look for a 10 team keeper(keep all)

    Madbum
    Carrasco
    Cole
    Quintana
    Maeda
    Rodon
    Ray
    De Leon

    Should I deal Quintana and a bat perhaps Puig for a better pitcher or do you think im fine with what I have?

    • jon says:
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      @jon:

      sorry pitching stats W HR K ERA WHIP K/9 QS

      Which pitcher should I look to upgrade if any?

      • JB Gilpin

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        @jon: Hah, yeah not really… Just no upside. Like I said, I might pay up a little more in an AL only for the safety, but that’s about it.

        Looks pretty good to me! Clear ace, clear #2, good upside in Cole and Rodon. Although Quintana does shine a little brighter in QS for sure. But yeah, if Quintana + Puig brought someone in my top like 20 or 25, I’d be all about it!

  34. Jackie Treehorn says:
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    Hola Jables,

    Pick 3 keepers in a 10 team H2H w/ AVG and OPS — round to be kept in ()

    (6) – R. Braun
    (14) – D. Murphy
    (19) – J. Villar
    (23) – G. Sanchez
    (23) – A. Benintendi

    • JB Gilpin

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      @Jackie Treehorn: Ohhhh good one. Like them all! Grey is swinging me a little, but I’ll take Villar Sanchez and Tendi. Great value on Murphy, but like the later ones a little better

      • Jackie Treehorn says:
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        Thanks man — definitely a tough call but a good problem to have! I’ll see what Grey says on his next post, unless he’s reading this?

        • JB Gilpin

          JB Gilpin says:
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          @Jackie Treehorn: Hah he comes in to troll me here and there, but I dunno if he’s catching all the comments :)

  35. Ralph Lifshitz

    Ralph Lifshitz says:
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    Great stuff JB, I too am higher on Hendricks than expected, and a lot of it comes down to two things he does exceptionally well. Get ahead in counts, and induce weak groundball contact. He was first in soft contact rate (25.1%) and F-Strike % at 68.6%. As you said add in the team, infield D, and he could easily have another great season.

    • Jensen says:
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      @Ralph Lifshitz: His career arc says he is in for a bad year. If you don’t believe in players being locked into a career arc just take a look at Chris Davis’ Baseball reference page.

      • JB Gilpin

        JB Gilpin says:
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        @Ralph Lifshitz: @Jensen: Career arc is tough to quantify though… I expect regression, and def to be worse, so kinda a bad year! But I don’t think it swings so bad he’s unownable or anything

        • Ralph Lifshitz

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          @JB Gilpin: He’s never had an ERA over 3.99 ever in his career. What’s bad?

          • Jensen says:
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            @Ralph Lifshitz: Are you trying to own someone with a high 3 ERA in a 12 team league? Particularly if that person doesn’t come with elite K’s? It’s fair to say he was unownable in 12 teamers in 2015. Even if I was being facetious by saying he is due for a bad year based on his two seasons of his career.

            • Ralph Lifshitz

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              @Jensen: I don’t think he’s a high 3 ERA pitcher. 2015, was just as fluky in the other direction as 2016 was. His lowest SIERA was actually in 2015. I get it you’re not drafting him, but you’re not doing a great job of convincing me, because he was his ERA was bad one year.

      • Ralph Lifshitz

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        @Jensen: When has Hendricks been bad? I know his fangraphs/B-Ref/profile/numbers very well. Will his ERA be 2.13 again? No, but it could still easily be between 2.50-3.50, and I wouldn’t call that a bad year.

        Did you just look at BABIP and LOB% or did you actually look at how he pitches, attacks hitters, and the type of contact he induces. Getting ahead in counts, throwing strikes, and inducing weak contact all matter.

        Explain your work here.

        • Jensen says:
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          @Ralph Lifshitz: ERA+ last 3 seasons: 154, 96, 188. Continuing that trend he is in for a horrid year followed by a Kershaw-esque year. You see, exact science. (I tried really hard to make sure you knew this was a joke, but just in case…… )

          • Ralph Lifshitz

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            @Jensen: That’s more dependent upon how the ballpark and league plays in a given year.

            Not offended, but I’m here for the debate.

            • JB Gilpin

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              @Jensen: @Ralph Lifshitz: Yeah I think like 3.30 with nearly 20 wins and almost an 8 K rate, that’s gonna still be really strong. Ralph is here for the debate, I’m here for the gangbang!

  36. Dr Sauce says:
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    Hey JB,
    Love the ranks; well done fine sir!
    Keeper question for you – ESPN, 12 team, 5X5 head to head, 6 man keeper (no limits), starting lineup features 1 utility, 5 outfielders, 1 of each positional players, 5 SP and 4 RP. The league has been up and running for a number of years, as such I have massaged my team into a nice situation of potential keepers. Choosing 6 from the following list; Rizzo, Goldy, Betts, Bryant, Bogaerts, Odor, Springer and Syndergaard. I also have Yellich and Britton but figure they are not in the same league as others. Any and all feedback appreciated. Thanks in advance.

    • JB Gilpin

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      @Dr Sauce: Thanks man, appreciate ya stopping by! Whoa, what a talent pool to pick from! Goldy, Betts, bryant, Rizzo are all locked in. I might as well hold a pitcher, so hold Thor. I think I’d take Springer as my 6th

  37. Jensen says:
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    Darvish, McCullers, Duffy, Quintana, Gausman, Nola, Sanchez, and Ray for $55 in my dynasty league with $500 auction budget. I’m hoping someone from the Happ-Walker range is thrown back to auction, but realistically looking at Skaggs to round out my rotation. I think the balance of risk/reliable is okay but maybe I am being too optimistic about some young guys. I have Reyes as well but unforch that will have to wait another year.

    • JB Gilpin

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      @Jensen: Whoa, well done with that rotation! Damn yeah the Reyes one hurt for me in REL… Skaggs would be a nice upside fit to add in!

  38. Jaimin Patel says:
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    hey man i really like the time you spent on backing this list up. i was just wondering if you would offer robles/edwin diaz for manaea in dynasty points league, where an average sp outscores elite closer by 100 points for comparisons sake. im really high on robles but only have cole, salazar, bumgarner as my solid pitching rotation

    • JB Gilpin

      JB Gilpin says:
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      @Jaimin Patel: Thanks man, really appreciate ya stopping by! So Victor Robles right? Mannnn I love him. I would prob hold, you have a nice core of pitches so far

      • Jaimin Patel says:
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        @JB Gilpin:

        Yep victor robles. had a counter offer of alex verdugo instead and really considering that one. it will be verdugo/diaz for manea

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          @Jaimin Patel: Ohhhhh now that I could get on board with

  39. Grey

    Grey says:
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    Surprised you only managed to squeeze three Brewers in… I just Googled Josh Hader stats and Googled asked, “JB, is that you again? C’mon, man, he had a 5.22 ERA in Triple-A.”

    • JB Gilpin

      JB Gilpin says:
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      @Grey: Oh, psssshhhhaw Grey, you and I both know it was Col Springs fault! “Ok Google – tell me why Grey is trolling me?!”

      • Grey

        Grey says:
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        Colorado Springs, “Please don’t include me in this narrative.”

        • Jaimin Patel says:
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          @Grey:

          classic banter

  40. Ralph Lifshitz

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    Porcello changed how he pitched to lefties throwing his 4 seamer more frequently early in counts against lefties, and started throwing his two-seamer/sinker inside more to lefties. If you look at his splits year over year you’ll see that was the big development in 2016. He actually changed his sequencing and approach when he came off the DL in August of 2015.

    • JB Gilpin

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      @Ralph Lifshitz: Aren’t you the BoSox guy?! no wonder you love slicky ricky so much still! I still think splitting last two seasons in half gave him a pretty decent projection, we both know he’s gonna regress at least a little…

      • Ralph Lifshitz

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        @JB Gilpin: It’s Pretty Ricky! Yes, I’m a Sox fan, so yeah…..

  41. Heat apologist says:
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    I apologize if I glazed over it, but where’s Glasnow? New grip on change up and he has looked incredible, including 6 strikeouts versus heart or orioles lineup in 2 innings.

    • Ralph Lifshitz

      Ralph Lifshitz says:
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      @Heat apologist: Yah read an awesome article on piratesprospects about the grip switch on the change.

      • Hear apologist says:
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        @Ralph Lifshitz: same here… did you see how his enormous sausage fingers swallowed the baseball? Crazy

        • Ralph Lifshitz

          Ralph Lifshitz says:
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          @Hear apologist: Hahaha yeah I was trying out that grip with the Baseball on my desk and my weak hands couldn’t handle it

          • JB Gilpin

            JB Gilpin says:
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            @Hear apologist: @Ralph Lifshitz: Interesting, and I did see the crazy Ks to start spring… It’s just that pitch was nada last year, obviously we’ll see. And yeah, didn’t rank him, I don’t think he gets enough MLB innings. Really worried about how good he looked early in the year in AAA, then lost velo once he hit the Majors and had a shoulder thing to end last year. But I know why you like him so much :)

  42. Mrs. Featherbottom says:
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    NICE! I”m drafting Alex Wood and David Phelps with my last picks in every draft. If, and thats a big If, they start I’m seeing two dudes who could be top 20 ks for 2017.

    • JB Gilpin

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      @Mrs. Featherbottom: Yeah Wood especially I don’t see making the rotation, just too many arms in LAD. Phelps could, but it seems like they kinda want him in the bullpen, which is why I didn’t rank either. Hah, who’s ready for a sausage in the mouth!?

  43. Big Odio says:
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    Any thoughts on Finnegan and the new change up he learned from Straily that really turned his season around. Im a sucker for a pitcher with a great change up and with his fastball that change really changed the game for him…thats a lot of change…queue the Bowie!

    I love Paxton, I was all over Grey about him last year. My main issue with him is that strand rate. He’s never had a high one? Is it his lack of a quality out pitch and the hitters just waiting on the heater? At some point that strand rate needs to come up?…right?…right?!?

    Any thoughts on the bottom of the Pittsburgh staff and the magic dust of Ray? Hutchinson and Kuhl provide some nice deep league upside and end of the draft flyers in non RCL leagues? Agree? Indifferent? Disagree? Shaking your head at me? hey wait that spells AIDS

    • JB Gilpin

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      @Big Odio: I wrote about Finnegan and the change-up above :)

      Agreedm he struggles from the stretch, although I think it’s something fixable, and Pax moving to a more natural delivery I think will help him.

      Yeah in deepers, Kuhl is a little intriguing. I dunno about Hutch though, I never was a big fan of his haha

      • Big Odio says:
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        @JB Gilpin: It felt like you blew off the impact of Dan Motherfucking Straily!

        • JB Gilpin

          JB Gilpin says:
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          @Big Odio: Hahaha true, I didn’t mention the Straily part :) Straily can fix everything wrong in the world, Straily vs. Trump 2020!

          • Big Odio says:
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            @JB Gilpin: He’s a Strai….ly shooter

            • JB Gilpin

              JB Gilpin says:
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              @Big Odio: If he fails he could take over the “Straily” Show

  44. Hugman says:
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    I owned Maeda for most of last season (one of my better draft picks), but he seemed to really fall off the last month or so. He looked really really tired. You think he’ll have more stamina this year? Because if not, more innings might not mean more goodness. Don’t get me wrong, I’ll still be looking to draft him, but I’m not expecting 200+ quality innings from him.

    • JB Gilpin

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      @Hugman: I don’t know if I would “expect” 200, but I think he could get close, and yeah I think stamina can be improved, I mean, he got through last year with no injuries too which was nice!

  45. swaggerjackers says:
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    Good read. I already appreciate rankings with explanations. I’ve been asking Jay on the Football side to do it for years. Some random thoughts:

    1) These rankings certainly cast some doubt on Grey’s list. Big discrepancies with guys like Pineda, Quintana, Harvey, Nola, and Robbie Ray.
    2) Stroman behind Skaggs is pretty bold.
    3) No love for Alex Cobb?

    • JB Gilpin

      JB Gilpin says:
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      @swaggerjackers: Thanks man, glad you enjoyed it!

      1. Yup we’ll have some good fodder on those guys, particularly Pineda. Looking forward to that podcast probably in 1.5 weeks after we finish the hitter previews.
      2. Yeah I just dunno if we can expect Ks from Stroman. Obviously he’s way safer and would get him above Skaggs in a deeper/AL only.
      3. He was on my “consideration” list, but man he looked bad coming back last year, and I just dunno what kind of health/performance to expect, I just don’t see a high end bounce back. Obviously if he looks good his first start or two, he’ll vault up the list in the weekly updates pretty quick

  46. Roll of SAGNOF, Hear my Cry says:
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    Nice list. Love the explanations.

    I’m looking at some trades in my dynasty league. Got two offers for Kelvin Herrera ($7)

    Tanaka ($30)

    Iwakuma ($28) and Naquin ($5)

    which one do you prefer? Obviously Tanaka is a better value than Iwakuma, but Naquin could end up being an everyday CF with power and speed.

    thanks.

    • JB Gilpin

      JB Gilpin says:
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      @Roll of SAGNOF, Hear my Cry: Thanks man, appreciate ya dropping by! I’m pretty blah on Iwakuma and Naquin bouncing back… I would take Tanaka if you need a starter and looking to dump Herrera, thats a decent deal for Herrera for the next couple years though!

  47. Dorian S. says:
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    Heya JB!

    Thanks for the list. I had to make my picks without it, but knowing my guys are all greatly ranked makes me happy. :D

    • JB Gilpin

      JB Gilpin says:
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      @Dorian S.: Sorry I missed your early draft! As I noted in the open, I have a note to myself to get these done earlier :) Glad your SP ended up being ones I like too!

      • Dorian S. says:
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        @JB Gilpin: No worries. Early draft really. My SPs ended up great and it was nice to see that I didn’t buy my guys too early in the draft.

        • JB Gilpin

          JB Gilpin says:
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          @Dorian S.: Glad it worked out man!

  48. Spyre says:
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    did everyone forget about tyler anderson in their rankings? can’t find anything about him this year

    • JB Gilpin

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      @Spyre: Def didn’t forget, he’s be like 120ish for me. I had like 5 or 6 tough cuts and he wasn’t in there. Throws slow, it’s Coors… Meh, I have trouble seeing him repeating last year

  49. Jurickson BROfar says:
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    Do we care about Alex Cobb this year?

    • Jurickson BROfar says:
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      @Jurickson BROfar: NM. We don’t right now.

      • JB Gilpin

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        @Jurickson BROfar: Hah, well I mean I def do care, in that I’m keeping a close eye on him through Spring and first few starts. Just at this point right now, I can’t see him being a 200 inning top 30 or 40 guy, too worried about the health and effectiveness

  50. Blind Umps have rights too (seriously their union is that strong) says:
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    later when there’s more data just use fantasy pros’ averages for ADP across multiple sites. right now it’s too “young” as you put it.

      • Blind Umps have rights too (seriously their union is that strong) says:
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        @JB Gilpin: i mean in your case you could do that, us drafting, yes, we might be better off using ADP data only from that particular site. you here are writing these for people at all sites of course.

  51. Blind Umps have rights too (seriously their union is that strong) says:
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    good catch on the GB rate getting worse for like 5 years on porcello.

  52. I don't want to brag but i have irritable bowel syndrome says:
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    straily is ranked but not bauer huh? re hehe heally

  53. Jon says:
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    I asked Grey but im also going to ask you…

    I have a roster spot which SP do I grab. SP stats W HR K ERA WHIP K/9 QS

    McHugh
    Nova
    Musgrove
    ervin Santana
    Zach Davies
    Severino
    Tyson Ross
    Hellickson
    Berrios
    eduardo rodrigues
    Iwakuma
    Bauer
    Montgomery
    Hammel
    Wacha
    Leake

    by your ranks i assume Nova?

    • JB Gilpin

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      @Jon: Yup, I like Nova the best! Especially with QS I think he can be a QS machine

  54. Swfcdan says:
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    My boy Norris at #64, not bad man you clearly listened to me! Will have a look at some ranks for other guys I think are going under the radar now, hope Jon Gray isn’t buried too low! I’ve also heard promising news about Harvey’s injury, that it can be fairly well recoverable (word of the day!) after all.

    Saw your response on your other thread, cool that you still remember my team Sheffield Wednesday. We are in the playoff hunt again this year currently in 6th place, but have a stronger squad so overall I’m more optimistic about this year than last!

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      @Swfcdan: Skaggs is an interesting guy, you’ve tempted me so he’s someone ill be looking to grab for a buck or two late in my upcoming 12 team auction.

      Yeah Jon Gray is the unknown really, well we know he’s great but how valuable can any Rockies fantasy pitcher be as there has only ever been Ubaldo that’s it! That’s going to be the experiment. But i’m banking on the talent and have him as a promoted prospect in one league, I agree that he could be top 20 on another team, so lets just hope he can at least be top 40 maybe by next year on the Rockies. Should get a ton of wins with that offense too.

      Am off the Joe Boss bandwagon now pains me to say it, even last year his K’s somewhat evaporated. But well if I can get him for a buck at the end of the auction then why not.

      • JB Gilpin

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        @Swfcdan: Of course! Norris was great to point out. Yeah I just have seen way too much to be against Coors for a pitcher to like Gray, even if his raw stuff looks phenomenal. We saw Skaggs in Spring and he struggled with control, but velo and the great curveball looked to be there. It’s still early Spring, he’s got time to work off the rust. And got Ross for $3 in the CBS auction I did yesterday, seemed about right for me.

        Go S. Wednesday man, cheering for you guys!

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