It’s funny how drastic and immediate changes can be from the Minors to the Majors. Thinking back on Trevor May who was profiled a few weeks back – the guy was walking everyone in the Minors and in his short stint in the Majors last year, to become top-25 in K:BB ratio.
But that took some seasoning. We’re seeing something even drastic-er and immediate-er with what’s going on with the Astros younguns. Lance McCullers went from being old Trevor May with better Ks to having an 18:0 K:BB stretch before getting a tad wilder these past few… But he was supposed to struggle through control issues, not Vincent Velasquez! Vinny V went from a 4.11 K:BB mowing through AA this year to 1.70 so far this year in the show with 17 Ks and 10 BB through his first three starts.
I was pretty high on Velasquez when he was called up, but maybe it was a tad too early for the 23 year old to find immediate success. So I decided to break down his start yesterday, that should’ve been a cakewalk at the Mariners, to see how he’s looking:
First Inning: Vinny V picks up an early run of support in the top of the first, and starts Logan Morrison with a 93 MPH fastball in there for strike one. Last few profiles have had issues with the broadcast not showing velocities, glad Houston ROOT is on their game! 95 MPH fastball fouled off, sailing heater too high, 1-2. He will ramp it up to 95-96, but the broadcast said he hit 100 a few times in the Minors, so that’d be sick to see! 94 is fouled off, first breaking ball is dribbled foul, curveball again is bounced in low, gooooooood fastball at 95 painting the outside edge is slashed foul, still 2-2 with Lomo giving a tough at bat. Again heater fouled back, Lomo is less “missing pitches to hit” and is more “fighting them off”, 96 MPH heater is just outside, full count – 9 pitches already. Fastball on the outer edge fouled again, then Vinny’s first change at 88 MPH drops low, and it’s an 11-pitch leadoff walk. Ouch. But it’s nice to see him able to bounce back and get a quality pitch in there, with this painting 95 MPH fastball to get strike one on Mark Trumbo:
Vinny then follows it up with a rolling curve that is able to get into the zone, 0-2:
That’s how Vinny should have success – heater in a tough to hit spot then locate the breaking stuff. Curveball again goes an extra 6 inches inside compared to that last GIF, 1-2 is a heater off the plate, then a 93 MPH fastball looked like it might’ve clipped the lower black but is just low, then a curve is turned on and popped foul and out of play, still 3-2. 17 pitches and no outs. 95 perfectly paints the outside edge and gets tipped foul, 94 low on the black is fouled off AGAIN, then finally a high 95 MPH fastball is popped foul in the infield for the first out 20 pitches in. Robinson Cano takes 95 low, takes outside again, then outside one more time at 94 gets Vinny down 3-0. Fastball barely gets in there, then 95 is outside for another walk. Out comes Brent Strom, Astros pitching coach, for a few words before Nelson Cruz takes a first-pitch curveball that drops in the zone, 0-1. Nice start there, but Velasquez goes curveball again, this one hung a bit and stayed in the middle of the zone for an RBI single. I don’t like the back-to-back curveball call. So now a tie 1-1 game, and a fastball on the hands of Kyle Seager eats him up for a foul back, change-up dips low, change again flutters low and outside, 93 on the hands gets a mammoth shot but well foul, then a curve gets Seager to fly out lazily to center – two outs. Seth Smith takes that curve in there for strike one, curve drops low and in, 96 MPH fastball is outside, Vinny V behind again 2-1. 94 is just inside, 3-1 high heater blows Smith away, the 94 is too high for yet another walk. Man, just derailed through those first two hitters and not finding his groove, 38 pitches in! Bases loaded, and Brad Miller takes a fastball low, heater again tipped back foul, 95 is way high and outside, 93 on the hands flared foul, and the 2-2 fastball gets up to 97 as Vinny V knows this could be his last hitter, and just blows it by him to stand the bases loaded with a K:
And the long, grinding 43 pitch inning is mercifully over.
Second Inning: Velasquez gets another run of support finding himself up 2-1 and gets a fastball in there to James Jones, 0-1. Fastball low, change-up way outside, 95 perfectly paints 2-2, fastball at 96 high, yet another full count. Velasquez goes high heat at 94, and Jones cuts under it for a K. That was probably high, so Jones helped him out. High 94 MPH fastball on the hands of Jesus Sucre is popped foul, 96 is low and outside, 95 is in there, then Vinny drops the hammer at 82 MPH for one of his best curves on the day to get another strikeout. Three in a row now. Already back to the top with Lomo who takes 94 outside, 95 fouled back, change flutters outside – haven’t seen good control of that pitch today – 2-1 is bunted foul, I don’t get that decision with Vinny so wild, 2-2 curveball is dribbled foul, and Lomo just gobbling up pitches again. But Vinny decides to stop messing around and ramps up a 97 MPH fastball on the outside black that is cut through and missed, and back-to-back innings with Vinny’s hardest pitch ending in a K – and four straight strikeouts!
Third Inning: 95 outside to Trumbo, 94 pounds the zone, 95 flared foul, nice to see Vinny up 1-2. Curveball I think at 84 MPH is bounced at 56 feet, 95 tipped back foul, curveball dips low, and yet again it’s a full count. Hating the inefficiency. 96 on the hands fouled off, 96 yet again high and tight fouled back, and this is some ridiculous shizz going on with foul balls. But 96 on the low inside black is golfed into the air and caught for an infield pop. 95 gets strike one on Cano, 95 outside fouled off, curveball at 86 bounces on the inside part of the plate, 1-2. 97 MPH heat is lined opposite field but goes just foul – almost caught by Domingo Santana – then Velasquez blows Cano away with a high fastball at 96 for his 5th K. Then a badly needed first-pitch out is made with a fastball popped out to second by Cruz to get Vinny another fairly quick inning.
Fourth Inning: And stop me if you’ve heard this one, but the 4th inning starts with Kyle Seager fouling off the first-pitch fastball… 0-1… Then Vinny’s best change-up on the day at 86 MPH is cued foul, 0-2:
Maybe not having that pitch has been a big factor on the inefficiency. Then the 0-2 pitch is a curveball that gets a lazy fly to center, nice quick out. Smith slices back foul the first pitch fastball, perfect 94 MPH fastball paints the low black 0-2, curve is low, 88 MPH change is barely nipped foul, a good curveball at 85 MPH is taken all the way, 2-2. Smith almost knew that one was coming. 97 is low and outside, and YET AGAIN a full count. And the 3-2 is a high 95 MPH fastball ripped into the shift, yet it finds a gap for a 1-out double. It was hit fairly hard, but it was a glorified ground ball that somehow gets the hole in a shift, a little lucky. Miller shows bunt but takes outside, 95 on the hands fouled back, change-up is well inside, Miller chases high and outside on the 96 MPH fastball, slashes a 97 MPH fastball foul, 96 again fouled back, 97 on the inside edge fouled back, and this is ridiculous haha. 2-2 again is a high fastball at 94 that the broadcast wanted the call on, but umps never call strikes barely in the zone high a strike, then another fastball is high and it’s another walk. And that’ll do it for Vinny V, who really wasn’t awful or wild but had one of the craziest foul ball fests I’ve ever seen.
Final Line: ND 3.1 IP 93 Pitches (57 Strikes) 1 ER 2 Hits 4 Walks 5 K Gamescore: 53 Gamescore+: 58.4
Final Analysis: Geez, just how much can the first two hitters jack up a game! 20 pitches until the first out, yet it was just a walk then a pop out. I don’t think there’s a way to look it up, but the percent of pitches fouled off had to have been one of the highest I’ve ever seen in a Major League game… This was an interesting test case for the Gamescore+ calculation, because I think this is by far the shortest outing I’ve broken down. Velasquez barely had any outs or hits to weigh in on hit grade, but the brief outing with high Ks makes sense for a higher Gamescore+.
It all starts with a powerful fastball that topped out at 97 MPH, usually sitting at 94-95. I can’t call it “overpowering” since so many Mariners were able to fight them off. Velasquez showed good control and command with it actually; the walks were more of a result of just so many good pitches spoiled. The main off-speed is the curveball, that went anywhere from 80-86 MPH. The one I GIFfed wasn’t the best one, as he was able to get them a little sharper for strikes and drop them out of the zone. I really wished I had seen better results with the change-up. The Houston broadcast brought up that “you hear the change-up is really good”, but Vinny V struggled with it yesterday. Really only that final GIF was a good one, and I think only about 2 or 3 of the 10 or so he threw were for strikes, and none got a swing-and-miss.
A lot of Dr. Jekyll, Mr. Hyde with this start. On the good side, Velasquez faught valiantly through all the foul balls, and didn’t crack with frustration like you’d see from a lot of young guns. Plus the command and control really weren’t that bad – a lot of spoiled pitches on the good ones working the edges. But on the bad side, even though he had a 4 K stretch, Mariners hitters were able to see the ball well enough to fight so many off, and it really concerns my with how deep Vinny can go. In any sort of favorable matchup against an opposing team with a lot of righties, I wouldn’t hesitate to roll him back out there. Against the Yankees next time up doesn’t seem like a good one though. And I also caution him as a play with starts limits – like the RCLs – since he doesn’t go deep. But in IP leagues, I think he can get enough Ks and keep from imploding to trust a little more. I dropped him a little bit in my ranks, but he still remains a high-class streamer in my book.
JB’s Updated Top 100 SP
(rankings for ROS based on 12-team Roto, green for risers, red for fallers)
Dropped Out: Charlie Morton, PIT (before you scream “too reactionary!” I only had him #100 anyway…), Michael Montgomery, SEA (had him in at #99, but no improvement in Ks), Jered Weaver, LAA (DL – hip)
- What a week from Chris Sale and Max Scherzer. I am going to be a grumpy old man and keep Clayton Kershaw at 1, but it’s becoming 1A/1B/1C right now at the top.
- Wow, shocking that Lance Lynn got through his forearm issue so fast. Might be a guy to go check for on your wire right now.
- Yikes, as soon as I praised Andrew Cashner‘s K:BB, it implodes 11:14 the last 4 games. More walks than Ks! And for the first 4 outs against the Diamondbacks yesterday, he looked dominant. He’s got to be mad frustrating to steadfastly own.
- Speaking of K:BB, looks like I indeed bought back into Taijuan Walker at the right time. 38:3 his last 5 starts. Unreal! Pineda-esque. Only moves up another 5, but I decided to highlight it.
- Let’s play the remember when game! Remember when I had no Red Sox in my top 100 in February? Remember when I was chastised for not having Rick Porcello in there? Remember when I accidentally kept him too high the past few weeks?! Lordy he’s been awful.
- People are going to disagree with me, but I am totally avoiding this Ian Kennedy run. I don’t trust it. And does Hodgepadre even apply anymore?
- Ervin Santana makes it back this week, who will return in just under two weeks from his suspension. I’m not huge on him, but he could be a factor even in 12ers.
- Another new-entry is the very flashy Joe Ross, who I still haven’t seen too much of. Numbers speak for themselves though, so he’s on the short list of the next Profile. I know Stephen Strasburg returning might bump him out, but I think they figure out a way for Ross to stick sooner than later.
Vinny V scare you guys off with this inefficient outing? And what make you of the ranks? Shoot your thoughts below, and happy pitching Razzball Nation!
JB, just a quick trade question. H2H points league, I was offered Jose Fernandez for Kris Bryant. Both are keeper eligible as 11th round picks next season. I LOVE starting pitching in our league. I’m super tempted even though Bryant seems like a generational type player.
@Ryan741: Whoaaaaaaaa. H2H pts I gotta take JoFer. Bryant will always have K issues. If Ks aren’t a neg though, man that’s close. I think if Ks (for hitters) don’t matter I’d keep Bryant.
I got Samardzija…and another owner likes him A LOT more than I do. If I do move him, I would want it for a 2-for-1. Here’s who he has in no particular order:
Shields, Liriano, McCullers, Walker, Teheran (dealt him earlier, so not looking to acquire him back), Bauer, Wood, McHugh and *Paxton.
I know what Samardzija’s value is (i.e., Top 30ish), and potentially getting two of these guys for him could be a steal for him, AND I got the owner wanting to acquire him in my favor. I worry about IP limits down-the-road with dudes like McCullers and maybe Walker, but wanted to see what you think would be a good package to target? As crazy as it sounds, I was going to start out with Liriano and McCullers and see what happens. Thoughts?
As always, appreciate your analysis broseph.
P.S. NBA DRAFT IN T-MINUS 5 HOURS!
@Peter Nincompoop: Oh man, sorry I was in draft mode all night! Nothing too big happened, except the Celtics making weird picks haha.
Nice, yeah love that Liriano inital offer! Shields getting torched today might have him a value. Highly doubt Shields + Liriano works. but who knows. MIght have the perfect window.
Def agree on worries for innings limits with McCullers/Walker too. Especially Walker off shoulder issues all last year.
Any time, Broheim!
Hey JB, is deGrom the real deal? We get to keep 2 SPs into next year and I’ve got Scherzer, Price, Kluber (and Carrasco). I’m toying with dangling Price or Kluber to try and upgrade on offence and get deGrom as part of the package in return – I’m trying to decide how much of a downgrade it would be from one of those guys to deGrom. It may not be a huge offensive upgrade given how well deGrom has done, so I’m trying to figure out if it’s worth it.
@Skeezix: Yeah man, I think so. Although with only 2 starting pitchers, I think I’ll like those top 3 a fair bit more. I still lke trying to move at least one, any pair of your top 2 is dominant. But at the same time I wouldn’t give any of them away as you want to win now, and if you trade one of the top 3, it’s surely a keeper for another team later too
@JB Gilpin: Yup for sure – Scherzer isn’t going anywhere and I would also like to keep Price if I can. I really like Kluber, but ideally he’s the one I trade as long as I can get a really good pitcher and a hitting upgrade in return, I still keep a fairly dominant staff. If the guy pushes for Price instead of Kluber I’ll have a hard decision to make. What type of hitter in addition to deGrom would you want to land in order to make trading Kluber (or Price) worth it?
@Skeezix: Yeah that would be a tough choice to make if he pushes for Price… Ummm, guessing you don’t keep too many hitters, so maybe an older boring guy that helps you win now. Matt Carpenter? Meh. Prince Fielder? might be too much. Kinda a guy in that range that isn’t too interesting to keep and might be undervalued.
H2H QS league
Nelson or Kennedy?
@Bob Bonilla: I’ll lean Nelson
Remember that time I was trying to flip Carlos Correa for a top 25 SP? I threw in Leonys Martin and received Gerrit Cole. I hope Correa breaks a hamate. Thanks for working with me brah.
@Cram It: Nice!!!!!!!!!!! Great move, although don’t wish injuries on guys, will hurt your fantasy karma!
@JB Gilpin: I think karma is only an issue here if he actually injures his hamate. We’ll find out!
@Cram It: Haha so any other injury keeps your hands clean? Haha
@Cram It: Dude if you have Stanton on any teams…. Just sayin!
@JB Gilpin:Yeah what JB said!
drop any of may/c.anderson/karns in QS 16 team dynasty for fiers/gravemen?
oh yeah, with heaney deciding he was only sucking in AAA for irony reasons apparently, how’s he looking longer term.
@goodfold2: Hahaha on Heaney! Ummm, nto much has changed, not overpowering stuff that seems quad-A to me. Rather all you mentioned above over him in a dynasty still. Fiers I think I would own over Karns, he’s older but not “that” old with more upside, IMO
I want to play SP/RP in my RP slot in roto and forgo the saves for IP and Ks…already have carrasco you is in one slot, who best to fill the other: graveman, heston, warren, phelps
@JimmyBond: ROS I like Heston, but all those guys are in the matchup class. If grabbing one right now, it’s still gotta be Heston
What’s up JB, figured I’d check in. Not a lot of movement this week for me on the pitching front…just not too much out there. I could use an arm with injuries(Ventura/Odorizzi) and disappointing performances(VinnyV/Chavez/Bauer/Salazaar, etc.). But the waiver wire literally looks like this: Colby, Hutchinson, Nova, E.Santana, Karns, Montgomery, Wandy, Graveman, Erasmo, etc. Matz has already been snagged so Nola is probably the best SP available for a stash.You see anyone in there worth a roster spot lol?
I currently have one open spo and I’m already one active slot down because Freeman just hit the DL. I already have Soler, Ventura and Odorizzi in my 3 DL spots. I also have a bit of a quandry at SS. Both Alexi and Andrus have been dropped. I’m currently alternating between Jace and Semien but Semien also backs up 3rd for me from time to time. Both Andrus and Alexi have struggled; either one worth an add iyo? Roster is below:
5×5 HTH OBP
Bats
C McCann
1B Freeman(DL no room)
2B Kipnis
3B Santana
SS J. Peterson
OF Stanton
OF Calhoun
OF Springer
OF Betts
Util Pollock
Util 2B/SS/3B Semien
Util Avisail Garcia
Bench 1B/C Y.Grandal
DL Soler
Staff
P Kluber
P Chavez
P Cole
P Salazar
P T. Walker
SP Velasquez
SP Bauer
RP Chapman
RP Britton
Bench RP Perkins
Bench RP Melancon
Bench SP Wisler
DLVentura
DL Odorizzi
@Eric B: Ugh yeah none of those guys are too exciting. Maybe Montgomery for pure upside, who I had at #100 but last second bumped for Graveman then he has a 10 K 4 hitter. Prob rather have him and see where it goes than Nola.
To the SS, nah I don’t think I’d grab those guys. Geez, Alexei’s OBP is .245! Ouch.
Yikes injuries tearing you apart. I don’t see a DL guy to drop either. Might be time to shop Chapman for a 1B
@JB Gilpin: And the hits keep coming…Now Stanton is on the DL. So thats Freeman, Soler, Stanton, Ventura and Odorizzi ughhh! I’ve added M.Taylor at an OF spot and dropped Jace for Elvis at SS. What says you on either of these move? Also been streaming my last spot on my staff. ROS who do you like the best between Vinny V and Montgomery or are both worth owning? I should get Soler back soon so in theory I could drop Taylor unless he’s still red hot to add Montgomery.
@Eric B: Yikkkkkes yeah that one hurt. Look like good moves to me! I would have Vinny well ahead of Mikey M, but I think with the injuries keeping the bat is solid
@JB Gilpin: Thanks man, the injuries are killing me. Top four maker the playoffs, I’ve been in 1st the last 8 weeks and losing the guys Ive lost are whoopin’ my ass lol. But hey I’m still in 1st right now and I’m looking forward to the new rankings tomorrow.Slightly off topic but it’s just what 11 more Sundays until football season? Might just ride to Charlotte to see my Skins whoop them Panthers on Nov.22nd lol.
@Eric B: Nice man! Hopefully it’s enough cushion.
Whoa, yeah football around the corner, and no joke – pretty sure thats the game I’m going to as well. Although I’ll throw paint on you if you’re in Skins gear haha. We’ll keep in touch on that, maybe we can meet up haha
@JB Gilpin: I will be in the burgundy and gold…dont start no paint war with me JB lol. We’ll definitely have to keep in touch as the date draws near.
My biggest challenge is going to be balancing keeping enough pitching and trying to bolster my O with Stanton and Freeman out. Couple of waiver options out there like Odor, Murphy, Jace, Alvarez, Singleton, etc. but not sure they warrant dropping someone like Taylor of the nats…whatcha think? I do have Sano stashed, hopefully he’ll get the call soon.
@Eric B: Sounds good man!
Luckily you have that cushion or else it’d be full desperation. Def need Sano soon for that power potential. Prob avoiding those first 3 since power is the biggest need. I’d prob hold, but keeping a very close eye on Singleton
Say JoeFer comes off DL and Matz called up. Then I have Kluber, DeGrom, Archer, CMart, Chavez as well, but can’t keep all. Keep Chavez? Dang he got blown up in Texax tonight….
Thanks
@greg: Chavez is def the furthest out… Kinda saw some issues there in TEX with all those good lefties and in a bad park. But I really don’t know if he’s worse than Matz when he’s up. But if getting JoFer off the DL means you gotta drop someone, def cool losing Chavez there
Someone in my 10 team H2H league just dropped Lackey. My current SP’s are:
Bumgarner
Kluber
Strasburg
Carrasco
Zimmermann
Lynn
Gio
Tyson Ross
I have been dominating my league so I have been looking ahead toward the playoffs.
Tehe Nats have a cakewalk:
[email protected]
4vMIA
3vBAL
3vPHI
The Cards have a fairly easy schedule:
3 @MIL,
3 @CHC,
3vCIN,
4vMIL
The Padres schedule is the toughest schedule (60% chance of pitching @COL) plus it only has 12 games:
[email protected]
[email protected]
3vSF
3vARI
Would I be a fool to drop T. Ross for Lackey? I know I’d be giving up K’s but I think I’m going to be OK there. Thoughts?
@Tom: Hmmm, I def like Ross better ROS, but if purely a playoffs move I like the decision! Ross faltered late last year too, so i don’t have huge faith he’s huge in Sept.
JB, had a great week last week after two weeks of hiccups. Most of the guys in my division did pretty bad. Anyhow, how does my pitching hold up for ROS. Current record 49-51. 5 out of 1st, 3 out 2nd.
I am playing the best team in the league this week. I have something in the works to help me with a Closer Kenley Jansen, the owner wants draft pick he looking for a 4th rd pick. 10 team keeper k/9.
Kershaw
Strausburg
Chavez
Salazar
Bauer
Fiers
Heston
Darvish – DL
Closers
Miller – DL
Axford
Boxberger
@Let Me Tell Ya Somethin Brutha: Man, you staff would be unreal with a healthy Darvish! Although you have a very small middle class just like America! Rich and some, ummm, poorer guys. Wish you had one more Jason Hammel type. But closer does seem like a need too, how many can you keep year to year (trying to figure out what that draft pick is worth)
@JB Gilpin: we keep 7 players total either 4 offensive and 3 pitchers, or vice versa.
Jason Hammels is owned by the best team in the league so he won’t be moving that guy.
@Let Me Tell Ya Somethin Brutha: Gotcha, yea so roughly an 11th round value and I’m good with Jansen at that price
So, any suggestions how to pry Strasburg away from an owner that still believes he’s better than Francisco Liriano in a keeper league? I snatched Stras from his owner in my 12 team roto keeper league but my h2h points keeper league guy is bucking.
@Clint: Well in a keeper, Strasburg is better! Obviously depends on if he’s a good price to be kept, but yeah the window is right now. Other than try to fit a sell-high guy in there that gets a need for the other team, I would just ride those offers. It’s risky, but you could wait until his first start off the DL and hope he does really bad, then swoop in
I’m in a 12 team H2H where the rosters are deep but the benches are shallow. My lineup is highlighted by Donaldson, arenado, adam jones, chris Davis, Mookie Betts, and a few solid bats to round out the hitters.
I’m looking to strengthen my rotation. Is Arenado for Sonny Gray and Yelich enough of a haul or should I aim higher?
Thx in advance.
@John: Hmmmm, great one. Gray is looking unreal, but I have big questions on Yelich. With Donaldson able to go to third I think I’m close to taking it, I might try for a different throw in than Yelich though
the owner actually changed the trade last minute to be Arenado/Richards for Kershaw/Belt.
thanks again for the help. love the work you guys do with the site!
@John: Nice, good move! Really appreciate that man, thanks for stopping by!
What’s good JB? Thanks for the write-up per usual. In my 12-Team H2H Keeper League, the owner who picked up Velasquez two weeks ago just dropped him after his start against the M’s. Thinking about picking him up in long-term in one of my two streaming spots although the SON doesn’t like him all that much.
Your weekly column doesn’t need me to sing its praises, or sing in general, but in an attempt to “spread the truth to the Razzball youth”, just wanted to throw something out there. If you like it, you can take it. If not, send it right back. Heading into the year my general pitching strategy was to carry 6 legit starting pitchers, 4 closers while leaving two spots open for weekly streaming. My two pitching keepers were Sale and Holland so needed to fill 9 other spots via the draft and have been using JB’s ranks as a compass (targeting guys in the top 40) of sorts. Anythehoo…made one major trade (where I got Zimmerman and Salazar) but here’s what my pitching staff looks like:
SP: Sale, Samardzija, Salazar, Pineda, Zimmerman and Lester
CL: Holland, Allen, Robertson and Gregerson
Streamers: Sabathia & Hutchison
Our league counts six pitching categories (IP/K/QS/SV/ERA/WHIP) and I currently have the #2 pitching staff and sitting in 1st place. I was too high on Greene to start the season (who couldn’t you be after those first two starts?), but man, you’ve been dead on all year. Thank you. Two questions…first, is Velasquez a guy you would take a flyer on for a couple weeks in one of my streaming spots; and second, do you think Heaney might be getting a call-up soon with Weaver hitting the shelf. Thanks for what you do.
@Peter Nincompoop: Yo dude, what’s up!?
Haha nice Anchorman offer. Looking good in pitching my man!
Easier question for me is Heaney – I have no trust in him at all. Something happened, I don’t know what, but has been atrocious since rattled in the Majors last year with awful AAA numbers. Given it’s PCL… But I would need to see like a great 5 game stretch in the Majors before buying again, and I doubt he comes up too soon.
Velasquez in a keeper I think I would try to stash. One question is how you’re doing in innings limit/starts limits because if you’re way behind I might lean towards continual streaming, but right on or over I def do the stash.
Thanks for stopping by!
@JB Gilpin: But mainly stay classy…
@Peter Nincompoop: Should be your war cry right at 7 every night to your team haha
Hey JB,
Again, great stuff!
Ive asked you some advice regarding Correa earlier, but im so hesitant to trade him because he’s a SS and its a 5 year keeper league. Im in a 5×5, 12 team league, in 2nd place. We get to keep 5 guys every year and I have a pretty solid keeper base (goldy, harper, marte, cole, arrieta, all for $71 total next year)
-Offense – Vogt, Goldy, Pujols, Kendrick, Correa, Harper, Marte, Polanco, Tomas
-Pitching – Cole, Price, Arrieta, Soria, Axford, Mccullers, Carrasco, Fiers, Wood, Hutchison, Nola (my prospect stash), and a few streamer guys
I have an offer on the table of Scherzer, Rosenthal, and Robertson. This meets three of my needs. I need to improve pitching and I need more saves.
1 – What are your thoughts on rosenthal?
2- Is robertson worth it? a closer on a terrible team… (1 save in over last 10 games)
3- View on Correa… it would be so awesome to keep a SS for 5 years, especially one with so much potential.
Sorry for the novel, but I have been a bit back and forth as you can see. If I trade him, I put myself in really good position to win. If I dont trade him, I still have a really solid team and a really good chance to win this year… oh boy.
Thanks again JB!
@Bryce Krispie Treats: Also – the health of rosenthal scares me a bit.
@Bryce Krispie Treats: Rosenthal scares me a tad too, but was hitting 100 last time out and I think he’s no less scary than most pitchers now. Robertson I do like a good bit, blown a few but I think he’ll be fine and get enough opps.
Man your pitching is good! Although yeah, you need closers and you’d get two awesome ones. So it’s all 3 of those guys for just Correa? Yeah Scherzer is too good not to do that, just absolutely dominant in pitching you’d be haha
@JB Gilpin: I ended up taking an offer for scherzer, Rosenthal, and Bogaerts. I took bogaerts because hes starting to heat up and has the most potential of anyone on the wire, plus a cheap keeper if he actually keeps it up.
I now have the top 2 pitchers and top 2 hitters in a 12 man league… If I dont win this year, it definitely is all about luck! Plus, all 4 of those guys are good keepers at their prices!
@Bryce Krispie Treats: Cool, yeah I like that move.
Damn yeah you’re right! Just be a good player’s coach and manage all their big personalities so you don’t crash with all the talent like Kentucky haha
12 team h2h points keeper
C darnaud
1b pujols
2b d. Gordon. Rd 8 keeper
3b Seager
Ss semien 2b/3b
oF Hanley
of Brantley rd 9 keeper
Of marte
Utility y. Tomas 3b/of rd 12 keeper
Utility. C. Santana 1b/3b
Bench c. Seager. Rd 13 keeper
SP scherzer
Sp tanaka
Sp Arrieta
Sp g. Richards
Sp Jaime Garcia
Sp gallardo
RP tolleson
RP c. Allen
RP. C. Smith
Offered Tanaka and Hanley for Adam jones and Kluber rd 9 keeper
He countered with tanaka and Hanley for his jones, c carrasco, and Teheran.
Do the deal, hold out for Kluber, or screw it all together and hold tight? Any and all opinions please….gathering Intel!
Thanks!
@Sange76: Hmmmm, def like the Kluber one better. I think I like the Carrasco one too, can Hanley slot over at SS though? Love the eligibility which might keep me from doing the 2nd one as they’re so close, but if he’s OF only I think I do it, it’s that close
Not sure if Vince is really helping as much as hurting my team – I dropped him today (for the 2nd time) to stream other pitchers this week. I doubt he’ll get claimed in case I want him back, but it’s the command that bothers me. He walks way too many batters – the nibbling is not only maddening, but inefficient.
Nothing shortens a SP’s day faster than issuing free passes, and 4 in 3.x innings is too many regardless of “stuff”
Firmly on my 2016 draft list – not so sure about 2015…
@Lucky Dog: While I don’t really disagree, it seems fixable and changable to me – I don’t think what we’re seeing now is the ceiling of what he does, or even indicative. Still young and learning. Also as I mentioned, he just got crushed by guys fouling stuff off and I didn’t see it as him “nibbling”. All that said, yeah he’s for sure in the streaming class in 10 or 12ers
How close is Erasmo to making your top 100?
@Jon: He was in actually! Only like mid 90s, but then he strained his groin so I took him out. Seems not too serious, but it still worried me enough – not huge on him even if healthy despite a nice little run here
Vinny V making me too nervous this week. Which 2 of 3 would you stream this Wednesday, Bucholz vs BAL, Hughes against the White Sux, Kennedy in SF?
@Assy: I’ll take the first two, I just can never trust Kennedy and the Giants are scoring well
I feel sick for dealing Fat Albert for Carrasco 2weeks ago…. and then my AGon goes ragingly cold…. then my CI Teix needs an MRI on his neck….
GMFails
@jal179: Ugh, yeah I never woulda seen a Pujols run like this. Hitting has had a lot of sudden black holes this year, been rough
Just traded Seager for Carrasco. Play in a 10 tm daily lineup set, weekly opponent, H2H categories league where 6 teams make playoffs (top 2 get bye). Total bases instead of HRs, ,QS instead of W, and OBP instead of AVG. 5 start minimum weekly/7 max (though you can end up with more than 7 starts counting if 7th start and any ones beyond happen on same day). Start C/1B/2B/3B/SS/3 OF/2 UT. Multi-position eligible players are a godsend in this league and I’ve collected as many high-end ones as possible, so I focused on high-K guys to offset fewer innings my team is pitching compared to others. My starters are Kluber, Harvey, Burnett, Hammel. Strasburg and Smyly on DL. With uncertainty over Strasburg and Harvey facing an innings limit and seeing some regression coming from Burnett and Hammel, I offered up Seager for either Salazar/Carrasco (not one trade has happened so far) with an eye toward September playoffs as guys who have potential to pitch better than current numbers and are generally high-K/low BB when on. Don’t want to take chances on streamers. Would you have done same move with current roster or who do you think won trade? I thought Seager was expendable for chance at Carrasco/Salazar at their best down the stretch.
C/1Bs: Vogt/Grandal
1B: Goldy, Abreau
2B/1B/soon to be 3B: Forsythe
2B/3B/SS: Semien
2B/3B: Matt Duffy
3B: Arod, Turner (only a couple games needed for multi-positions)
3B/SS: Boegarts
OF: Giancarlo, Reddick, Maybin, Souza, Avisail Garcia, Soler (DL spot)
@Operation Mindcrime: Defffffinitely like it, I’m a big Carrasco fan. One thing that’s interesting is like 6-7 of his 8 HR allowed are in the first inning, so that seems fluky and something to fix. Also I like your depth indeed, love the move! Glad is Carrasco over Salazar too
Wondering how much is Cleveland’s defense hurting Kluber, Salazar, and Carrasco? Salazar’s ERA/FIP seems in line, but BABIP feels unlucky. Kluber & Carrasco just seem like victims to the 8 other guys on the field? I own all 3 and their collective ERA feels a run to run & half higher then what we would expect.
@James Maize: A little bit, but Lindor is gold glove caliber and is just up. Urshela is better at third. It should improve, and as an owner of both Kluber and Carrasco I still think another big run is coming.
Starlin Castro or Jean Segura for Zimmerman?
@Scott: Hmmmm probably Segura, and I’d be good with that for Ryan Z
Start Chavez @texas? Hammel vs LAD? Carlos Martinez @miami?
@Mikey B: Probably yes, probably yes again, and most definitely. I’d rank them in opposite order you listed them, only really sitting Chavez if my innings or starts limits were way over
My sp was supposed to be a strength this year in my keeper league, but has been ho hum so far due to injury and inconsistency.
Quality Starts, k, era, whip,
kluber
harvey
arrieta
hutchison
bucholz
robbie ray
dl. iwakuma
dl.jose fernandez
dl.stroman
Which two to let go of?
Thanks!
@phenomenot: Ugh, yeah Kluber hasn’t delivered but is so good when right. Ray is my first out. Good stuff, but righties can get to him sometimes. So are you using DL spots on all 3? If one of the DL guys is taking a bench spot, Stroman is actually the first one out, then Ray
Hey man!
H2h pts weekly lock
Who to add + start this week,
Fiers (start 1 vs mets & niese,, start 2 is vs twins & milone.)
Jon niese (start 1 @ Milwaukee & fiers start 2 is vs reds & cueto but thought I just read cueto’s start got pushed back from this tues to fri )
CC Sabathia (start 1 vs Phillies & o Sullivan start 2 is @ Houston & mchugh.)
@Monster mash: Yo! ah I mighta missed ya for your lock…
Cueto did indeed get pushed back, but I think I’m taking Fiers of the 3. Prob CC 2 then Niese last, Red worry me for him
Hey man, where is CC Sabathia on your list? He has what I thought is a very good matchup for him vs Phillies tomorrow
@Todd: Well these ranks are for the rest of the season. CC was in the 80-100 range early on, but ROS I would rather roster these other guys. I do like CC for that spot start though
Thanks again JB.
Why hasn’t Carrasco fallen in your ranks?
(looks at the pitchers in the 20-40 range)
Yikes. It’s tough out there…
@SDB: I still trust all the peripherals on Carrasco, who is still throwing hard and pretty well. Plus now Lindor and Urshela is a big upgrade defensively. Hah, yeah pitching was supposed to be deep this year too! It’s been rough
JB, Nova comes off the DL Wednesday, which pushed CC next start on Monday.
So how do you favor CC vs Phillies tomorrow night? Or should I still go with Hutch and Fiers..
Hutch TB and MIN
Fier NYM and TEX
@los locos: CC is a great spot start opportunity vs all those old, bad lefties. But he has plenty of risk too, so I like the 2 start guys for ya
Kris Bryant for Strasburg
Pretty deep in 3rd bag with ed3,lawrie,rendon,miggy,holt
Need Sp with only having Lackey, Volquez, Salazar, Shelby Miller
@jvillan: Ugh yeah some SP help is in need, but I think you could get more for Bryant. Redraft or keeper? In redraft I’m def more apt to do it
@JB Gilpin: yeah that’s how I feel about it too. It’s a redraft. I put it out there but no one’s made any offers. I put all them 3baggers out there too.
@jvillan: Yeah bryant is def a huge name. I think I’m good on it given the need, and I do think Stras bounces back
Hi JB. I have Klubes, Carrasco and Zimmermann as my every-weekers (although ZIMM has not been as good as advertized). Then for this week, I am choosing among the following:
Fiers (vMIN, SON $23, JB rank 52)
Strasberg (PHI, $?, 28) (like the matchup, if he is ok his first start against ATL, I will start him)
Hutchison (vTEX, $10.5, 61) (soooo inconsistent)
McHugh (vNYY, $7.4, 50) (don’t think I can start him)
Wisler (@WAS, -$5.8, unranked) (SON hates this start)
2-start Karns (vTOR $2.6, vCLE -$4.8, 82)
2-start K Hendricks (vLAD -$2.7, @NYM $12.7, 55)
Appreciate your thoughts on the above, if you could rank them and whether you would start them in a 12-team 5×5 league with weekly moves.
@Five-On-One: Yo! Sure thing:
Strasburg, Hendricks (for the 2 starts, and would risk it with Mets being such a good opp team in favor of SP), Fiers (probably wouldn’t), Karns (just for 2 starts, but now not starting anyone after this), McHugh, Hutch, Wisler.
which of the group of pitchers below would you attempt to sell? need to make a trade to clear roster space w/ JFer & Corbin coming back & would hate to just drop one of these guys (deep league)
Velasquez (of course), Jesse Hahn, Roenis Elias, Chase Anderson, Alex Wood, Yordano Ventura, & Carlos Martinez
@Steve: Gotcha, well one big question is if this is a keeper or not. guessing non keeper, so I think Yordano is my biggest sell, even though it’s tough with him hurt. I think name value beats his real value to get the best value. I buy C-Mart, maybe Alex Wood could bring back a little, not “huge” on him, but not too down either
@JB Gilpin: actually a 16-team deep DH elig league, shallow keeper in only 5 or 6 in ’16.
I have no real room to bring another pitcher to my current crew of JFer, Harvey, Arenado, Springer, and Harper so they are first to go if I can get the right deal. Don’t like keeping Pitchers but Harvey & JFer so good you can’t not keep em. 3 too much.
anyways, so you would try to sell Yordano, maybe Wood & see what I could get?
Buy C-Mart meaning hold on to him for stretch?
keep Elias, Hahn, Anderson, and Velasquez?
@Steve: Ah gotcha.
Well your bottom guys are solid for a 16er, but if push came to shove I’d be fine losing Elias if you can’t make a move in time. But I don’t think I’d be looking to trade any of those bottom 3 because I don’t think you get much. I do indeed buy C-Mart
What do you think of Felix and Posey for might and lackey.
10 team HTH keeper point league
@nitro: meant miggy of course. Sorry
@nitro: Might is… Miggy with auto correct? :) Ummmm, depends on the catcher situation, I am kinda sticking with Felix side in a Pts league for me
@JB Gilpin: thanks?
@nitro: you’re welcome?
JB!
Sorry for double post! Any news on Strasburg and whether he starts this week?
Cheers,
Ante
@Ante GALIC: No worries, the more the merrier! I think he’s going tomorrow, WAS has a TBD and I think I heard that’s where they’re going to bring him back.
hey JB good stuff
what do you think statcast would have for effective velocity if Rudy Gobert got up on the mound? Would he be releasing it halfway to home plate?
my opponent this week in 12 team h2h has 4 more probable starts than me so i’ll be doing some streaming. 8 categories with IP K W L QS WHIP ERA. i’m going to use Velasquez’s spot to stream. players have to be added day before
first decision is Mike Montgomery at home vs KC tomorrow. i know he’s been pitching over his head and KC never strikes out but he’s going up against Guthrie who sucks. the other option is Niese @ Milwaukee
for the rest of the week there is Shoemaker (HOU) Karns (TOR) Nova (PHI) Brett Anderson (@MIA) R Ray (@SD) May (@MIL) Wisler (@WAS). I’m gonna grab at least 3 of them do you feel one way or another about any of them?
thanks for reading the drunk history of my team
@dom: Thanks man!
Hahahahaha, that’d be awesome! Would love to see what his downward plane would be too. It’d be like dropping from the sky!
Ugh, of the two I like Niese better. Montgomery scares me a tad.
Let’s see, I think my favorite matchups there are May, Anderson then Wisler. Don’t like Ray v Padres with all their righties.
Haha any time man!
@JB Gilpin: do you like the Shoemaker or Karns matchups better than Niese?
@dom: Ummmm, nah the Brewers have been so bad, even against lefties, I think that’s the best of the 3
redraft league need a bat with some pop. drop vinny v or the newly fixed taijuan? thanks the breakdowns are great.
@jacquejones: I would def be holding Taijuan, Vinny V can get the boot. Thanks man!
JB, who you trust more this week?
Bolsinger vs @Cubs
Sabathia vs Phillies @Astros
Fiers vs Mets Twins
Hutch @TB Tex
Need one…
@los locos: Whew. I like bottom two the best, kinda leaning Fiers actually
JB!!!!
Thanks for the all the efforts, much appreciated.
First off, really sorry about D-Ham and the double suicide! Sad day in MIL, even though he played all over the place. I associate him most with the Brewers.
Would you start Wood for his two-start this week? My options this week are:
SP Cole at home versus Mike Leake.
SP Latos at home versus Jaime Garcia
SP Liriano at home versus Williams Perez
SP Richards at home versus J. A. Happ
SP Ross at home versus Robbie Ray
RP Betances Home 3 (PHI), Away 4 (@HOU)
RP Jansen Away: 7 (@CHC,@MIA)
Bench
SP Carrasco
SP McCullers
SP Salazar
Was planning to bench Carrasco and Wood for Jansen and Betances. I can start both Carrasco and Wood for 3 extra starts but either Jansen and / or Betances could go off next week. Salazar is going up against David Price and would be scared of that matchup. McCullers is on the bench until he rights the ship, if he throws one more semi-clunker then I’m going try my luck with Matz, Wisler or some other rookie flavor of the month.
Cheers,
Ante
@Ante GALIC: Yo dude, thanks for stopping by!
Yeah very sad news. I remember him calling some games last year – but his played days were before my time…
Yeah I think Wood is in play for ya – I like him a goo bit now, but I think Latos is your bench. I was kinda leaning a RP since Wood is RP elig I am guessing, but I agree – those closers could go nutso.
Great scouting report man now that I actually read them for a change :) , a pro scouting position is in your future man. Man that top 3 ranking must be the hardest calls of the lot right now, all 3 are riddonkulously good, I’d actually think that Max and Sale should probably be 1/2. How close are you to dethroning master Clayton? Ha.
In shallowers (10 teams) my pitching is very good now (shock!) with Cole, Hammel, Carrasco, Price, Sale, Lester and umm McCullers (ha). In these type of situations should I avoid the odd tough matchup to keep my ratios pristine as it’s a shallow league? Lester and Hammel both have LAD at home coming up and Carrasco has DET, thinking it might be worth playing those safe as they have been struggling a bit and their opponents are mashing.
In my other 16 team league had to drop Shitmaker after his last faecal offering, and picked up Morton instead!!! Finding semi-reliable backenders is really tough in a league this deep, stashed Morrow who was cut but I think I need to make a trade. Is Archer, Wacha, Price (great front 3, then it gets ugly), Shark, Millone, Elias, Happ, Monty, Morton, Karns good enough for a 16 teamer? Looks ok on paper but it’s H2H and one always seems to get rocked each week to put my ratios in the crapper!
@Swfcdan: Hah thanks man! Yeah I’ve thought about what it would be like to scout, but it’s too much travel :)
Yeah man, those top 3 are nuts. Ummmm, it certainly was more in my own internal discussion more this week, but not razor razor close.
If you’re way up in innings pitched or in starts, def would think about benching those. Lester I like though as a lefty v Dodgers. Other 2 are scarier.
Oh man, I streamer Morton the start bfore and someone added him in my main league before I could for yesterday and I got soooooo lucky because I mighta done it too. But yeah, I think that squad is fine, I bet most teams have that issue with one clunker in a leagye that deep!
@JB Gilpin: I’m liking your rankings faith in Shark and Carrasco, both have gotta pull their fingers out of their arses, neither produced as expected so far.
And yeah im thinking that I have maybe too much average pitching in that deep league, the more pitchers the more chance of one getting rocked to ruin your weekly ratio’s right? Ha. Will try and pawn a couple away for a bat, that said doesn’t everyone want to do 2for1’s when they’re getting the 1.
Always appreciate your detailed response man. Grey’s great but when you spend a while typing up a post and get a response of just “ha + ____(players name)” makes you wonder if it was worth all the effort at times! Ha. Thanks again.
@Swfcdan: Yeah they’ve been a little annoying, still have a lot more faith in Carrasco though.
Yeah in a deeper it’s hard to have quantity, but H2H you gotta chase those counting stats… Still think you have a nice rotation.
Hah, well thanks for that man! In grey’s defense, he handls about 1,000% more comments than me :)
@JB Gilpin: I know right! Can imagine being Grey waking up in the morning loading up Razzball and seeing 200 questions there waiting for him thinking “eff it I wanna pull a sick day today”. Ha, great dedication for the best(?) unpaid job in the land!
Just wondering man why do both your threads come out within hours of each other on the same day each week? Guess you must be building them up during the week ready to unleash on us on mondays after long, heavy weekends haha.
@Swfcdan: Yup for sure!
Haha, well the Podcast record time Sunday afternoon is what fits Grey’s schedule the best, even though it’s a busy time, and I like Monday’s for the Pitcher Profile since I’m re-ranking every week for the weekly players and I get some weekly questions in there :)
I think the Pods coming out on monday to start the week is solid too, just kinda how the articles worked out haha
If Matz were called up today where do you think he would land in your rankings sight unseen? Thanks for these profiles love them!
@Jobu Needs a Refill: I feel like Matz is definitely go in every week and I just can’t make room because I don’t know the ML innings we get. If he was up though, he’ll immediately go in. Probably 60s if they say he’s for sure in all year, 80s-90s if that looks bleaker. Appreciate it!
JB,
Good stuff as always. What about Matt Wisler? Not enough K’s to make the top 100?
@Nick: Thanks man! Nah, and yeah Wisler wasn’t great IN AAA, and really hasn’t been good in the Minors the past 2 years with bad K numbers. He’s close though.
Not sure if this changes anything but wins are weighed heavily in this league……10 points…..and strikeouts are worth 1/2 a point each…..thought it might be relevant…..if you don’t respond I will take it as you sticking with your first response……thanks either way
@tals23: Ummmm, nah that doesn’t change anything for me other than def grabbing a pitcher over A Jax
You have Corbin ranked over iwakuma…..I picked up l
Iwakuma and nova recently in an attempt to catch lightning in a bottle when they come off the DL….I have a solid starting five but I like to mix and match depending on match ups and two start weeks…..are these guys worth the risk and should I also be picking up Corbin?
I have Austin Jackson as my fifth OF…..i would have to drop him for Corbin unless I drop one of the aforementioned SP’s…….it’s a weekly scoring, redraft league that starts five SP’s and three OF’s
@tals23: Yup, I have very little faith in Iwakuma – both heath and results. I am not big on Nova at all, I would rather have Corbin, then Iwak then Nova.
Yeah A-Jax can go for pitcher stashing in my opinion. I think I’d have a few people above Nova as the third stash, but would be fine with that
@JB Gilpin:
Thanks jp