Ugh, ranking pitchers is so annoying sometimes!  You like a guy, he sucks a little, you stop liking him, he then gets better…  I’m changing this to monthly rankings here on out, dammit!

OK, rant over.  Don’t worry, I’ll stick with the weekly ranks.  But after buying into the Anthony DeSclafani hype in the pre-season, to taking him out of my ranks, to then rank him very aggressively when he got off the DL, only to see two meh starts including a rough one against the lowly Braves, and now DeSclafani is looking good again with that wicked slider has my panties bunchier than the chocolate in Buncha Crunch.  I’m having a roller coaster of emotions!  I feel like Yordano Ventura on the mound, I’m coming unhinged!  I watched a good bit of DeSclafani’s first start off the DL hosting the A’s and he looked pretty good, but didn’t give it my 100% undivided attention.  I think for my own sanity I needed to take a look with how he pitched yesterday afternoon against the Padres, to finally have a decision on this guy…  Here’s how DeSclafani’s fourth start on the year went down:

Psyche!  Quick note I’m out next week as I’ll be in DC to see my Brewers play the Nats.  And ya know, July 4th… MURICA!  Catch you in two weeks!

First Inning: DeSclafani’s first pitch is a 92 MPH fastball slapped to third by Travis Jankowski and it’s a quick first-pitch out.  92 MPH fastball is in there to Alexei Ramirez, cutter at 89 dips low, then 92 MPH fastball is ripped over Eugenio Suarez at third for a single to left.  A little too much of the plate on that fastball, but I like that DeSclafani is pounding the zone.  93 MPH fastball is fouled off by Wil Myers, 93 again is inside, cutter paints the outside edge, then sharp cutter at 88 is an absolute beaut breaking down and over the plate for DeSclafani’s first K looking.

Yangervis Solarte takes fastball outside, 91 MPH two-seamer breaks outside, 2-0 fastball is at 93 MPH and fouled away, fastball again fouled off, hanging change-up it looked like that was well outside is fouled off, then Alexei tries to run on the first move and is picked off before DeSclafani has to deliver the pitch.  Horrible base running gets DeSclafani out of the inning prematurely.

Second Inning: First pitch of the second is a nice sinking fastball in there to Solarte yet again to open the inning, 93 MPH fastball fouled off, 0-2 cutter fouled off, then fastball perfectly placed on the low outside edge is flied lazily to center, one down.  Perfect cutter at 88 gets strike one to Melvin Upton, then cutter again and Melvin had no chance on this swing, 0-2.

DeSclafani-Cutter-1Maybe what I’m calling a “cutter” Fangraphs lists as a “slider” but that’s always a debate.  94 looks like a perfect pitch low and outside but called ball one, then DeSclafani tries one high and tight and hits Upton.  Yikes.  So runner at first one down and Ryan Schmipf (who?) swings through a first-pitch fastball, cutter barely nipped foul, then gnarly 94 MPH two seamer gets another K looking, two down.

DeSclafani-Fastball-1Some great looking stuff right now.  Cutter barely low to Derek Norris, fastball inside, then fastball again at 94 I think is called a strike, but it’s no matter as Upton is caught stealing.  Some good D right now from the Reds!  At least that SB attempt was close…

Third Inning: Second straight inning where the same batter closes then starts the next inning and Norris takes a fastball low, swings over a cutter 1-1, 92 barely misses the outside corner, 92 in the zone fouled off, cutter low, hanging cutter is absolutely obliterated to left but went well foul of the pole, then 93 MPH fastball is hit pretty hard up the gap, but Zack Cozart is there to make the clean play, one down.  Fastball misses to Alexi Amarista, then cutter is chopped easily to second, two down.  Opposing pitcher Luis Pedromo dribbles a first pitch fastball foul, then Pedromo ropes a 93 MPH fastball up the gap for a hard single.  Wow, can’t do that, give him offspeed!  Back to the top and Jankowski takes a fastball strike, 95 tops out the speed but is well outside, then nasssssty cutter or slider or whatever at 87 gets a massive whiff, 1-2.

DeSclafani-Cutter-2Mmmmm, that’s what I remember getting me excited before!  Cutter again low, then 94 on the outside edge is slapped to third, and the play is made on the speedy Jankowski by a quarter step to get DeSclafani out of the inning.

Fourth Inning: DeSclafani opens the fourth with a cutter low to Ramirez, then fastball is pounded routinely to short for a quick first out.  Another first-pitch cutter, and Myers hits a lazzzzy fly to center for another quick out.  Whoa, nasty breaking ball at 82 skips in the dirt to Solarte 1-0, and that is a nasty third offering if he can utilize it.  Fastball in the zone, then 1-1 94 MPH fastball on the outside black is an infield fly for a pretty dominant 6 pitch inning.

Fifth Inning: The Reds pick up two runs of support, and at 50 pitches, there’s a 78 MPH curveball to start off Upton, 0-1.  Man, pretty impressive arsenal!  Fastball is well inside, this cutter looked more like a slider low, then 94 MPH fastball is poked through the right side gap for a hard single to right.  More offspeed, man!  Schimpf takes a sinking fastball low, cutter low and inside pulled foul, cutter paints the outside black 1-2, cutter in the dirt, outside cutter dragged foul, great fastball at 94 in on the hands and low is fouled back, then cutter again outside is a lazy pop to left for the first out.  Beautiful cutter gets the bottom of the zone for strike one on Norris, fastball in the zone 0-2, slider goes low and in, then Upton is picked off at first.  Are you friggin’ kidding me?!  3 runners out on the base paths already?!  DeSclafani then spikes a cutter 2-2, then DeSclafani goes up-and-in peaking at 95 MPH to get Norris swinging and out of the inning.

DeSclafani-Fastball-1

Mayyyyybe missed his spot a little bit, but it counts!

Sixth Inning: Fastball barely inside to Amarista opens the 6th, cutter outside, fastball gets the call up and away 2-1, then high fastball again is another infield pop for an easy first out.  Fastball paints the outside corner to Pedromo, curveball that went about 57 feet gets an ugly pitcher swing 0-2, Pedromo lays off another offspeed pitch in the dirt, then cutter breaking into the top of the zone is taken for another backwards K.  Two down and Jankowski tries a drag bunt on the first pitch, DeSclafani fields it incredibly well with a glove flip to first, but Joey Votto tries to barehand it and drops it.  Wow, awesome fielding Votto.  AND WHAT IN THE WORLD, THEY GIVE JANKOWSKI A HIT?!?!  Yikes, the scorekeeper must be a Votto family friend…  So runner on first with two outs and fastball is in there to Ramirez, 0-1 94 MPH fastball is barely tipped foul, cutter is spiked in the dirt, fastball well up-and-in gets a half-swing foul, that curveball at 82 is fouled straight back, then a cutter is rocketed to third, but right to Suarez to end the inning.

Seventh Inning: The Reds pick up another run to spot DeSclafani a 3-0 lead and a 93 MPH fastball is in there to Myers, 0-1.  Fastball misses, then fastball again inside is hit decently hard but pretty routine to short, one down.  Cutter low to Solarte, cutter again low, then 91 MPH high fastball is slapped hard to right center for a single.  Fastball is high and tight to Upton, cutter goes low, 2-0 fastball fouled off the catcher’s mask, 2-1 cutter drops into the top of the zone, then fastball inside is grounded to short, and they get the lead runner at second for the second out.  Schmipf fouls off a low cutter, fastball fouled off as well, curveball in the dirt almost gets Schmipf swinging but he holds up, cutter doesn’t quite get the outside corner 2-2, then cutter again breaking low is yet another infield pop for an easy third out.

Eighth Inning: Still a 3-0 game and at 96 pitches, DeSclafani is going out for at least another inning.  Fastball is high to Norris, high again to fall behind 2-0, fastball wayyyy outside at 92 makes it 3-0, fastball at 93 finally gets in there 3-1, high-and-tight fastball ripped foul, then wow, 95 on the outside corner is fouled off, still a full count.  But maxing at 95 again in the 8th!  Then another payoff pitch is a fastball popped to shallow left center for an easy first out.  Fastball paints the inside corner to Amarista, curveball hit well foul, 95 MPH again on the gun is fouled off, then 95 again gets the inside edge for DeSclafani’s 5th K.  Awesome velo!  Two down and pinch hitter Brett Wallace takes a hammer curveball on the outside corner for strike one, Wallace takes a mammoth hack at a cutter low and inside and whiffs, 94 is way outside, 95 barely misses low and in, wow cutter barely misses the outside black 3-2 (Foxtrax had it a good bit out, there’s the deceiving advantage of strike throwers!), fastball dribbled foul, 94 on the outside edge fouled off, cutter is fouled off Wallace’s foot, then 94 on the outside edge is grounded right into the shift and gives DeSclafani 8 great innings of scoreless baseball.

Final Line:  W  8.0 IP  117 Pitches (77 Strikes)  0 ER  5 Hits  0 Walks  5 K  Gamescore: 77   Gamescore+: 70.6

Final Analysis: Damn!  I shoulda stuck with my guns on DeSclafani, as he’s only had one bad start out of 4 and it was of course the one @ATL that had me the most excited…  Stupid baseball!  The Gamescore+ coming out so much lower than the Gamescore is a little misleading, since Gamescore+ doesn’t count baserunner outs.  The Reds notched three of them that would’ve equalized the two scores a little more.  Also “only” 5 Ks in 8 innings hurt the valuation.

DeSclafani has some pretty nasty stuff.  The fastball has all sorts of movement – from sink to two-seam run – that was able to paint in and out of the zone.  He did have a few 2-0 counts and one 3-0 count, but the fastball was good enough to even it back up.  I also really liked the velocity – he was averaging 92.9 on the heater and 87.0 on the slider coming into this start, but I imagine both will be higher than his three-start average in this outing.  He peaked at 95 MPH and hit it frequently in the 8th inning when he was well over 100 pitches.  Then to that cutter…  It’s a marvelous, tight-breaking pitch that is right on that fringe of cutter vs. slider.  I thought the speed and tight break made it look more like a cutter so I labeled it as such, but I leave it up to your eyes on the GIFs if you haven’t seen him pitch yet.  After a few innings, DeSclafani also mixed in a few curveballs with nice break in the 78-82 range, but he didn’t need that pitch very frequently.  He also threw 1 or 2 change-ups that is a distant 4th pitch, but interesting to have one more trick up his sleeve in a pinch.

While a start against the Padres is usually considered laughably favorable, the Padres have been swinging the bat a little better recently, so I’m not shrugging off this start.  Sure 4 of the 5 Ks were of the looking variety, and sure he had three men out on the basepaths, but it was impressive nonetheless.  Through 8 innings, all hits were singles and no hitter made it to second base!  Pretty dominant.  The K rate isn’t huge and wasn’t great last year (7.36/9), but I think he has the stuff to get the Ks in the 8 range with a great WHIP.  He also had a low walk rate last year, didn’t walk any this start, and has a 11:1 K:BB his last two outings.  The upside isn’t quite there to see a top-30 pitcher or anything, but the guy has good stuff and a great attack-first arsenal – I aggressively ranked him right back to where I had him coming off the DL.  I’ve re-added him in all the leagues I nabbed then dropped him a couple starts ago, he’s a sneaky waiver-wire option if you need innings in mixed leagues.

Razzball Baseball

Updated Top 100 SP

(rankings for ROS based on 12-team Roto, green for risers, red for fallers)

RANK SP, TEAM
1 Clayton Kershaw, LAD
2 Jake Arrieta, CHC
3 Chris Sale, CWS
4 Max Scherzer, WAS
5 Noah Syndergaard, NYM
6 Jose Fernandez, MIA
7 Madison Bumgarner, SF
8 Jon Lester, CHC
9 Jacob deGrom, NYM
10 Johnny Cueto, SF
11 Corey Kluber, CLE
12 Zack Greinke, ARI
13 Danny Salazar, CLE
14 Carlos Carrasco, CLE
15 Carlos Martinez, STL
16 David Price, BOS
17 Justin Verlander, DET
18 Matt Harvey, NYM
19 Masahiro Tanaka, NYY
20 Joe Ross, WAS
21 Cole Hamels, TEX
22 Steven Matz, NYM
23 Jose Quintana, CWS
24 John Lackey, CHC
25 Jeff Samardzija, SF
26 Julio Teheran, ATL
27 Taijuan Walker, SEA
28 Stephen Strasburg, WAS
29 Chris Archer, TB
30 Jason Hammel, CHC
31 Drew Pomeranz, SD
32 Gerrit Cole, PIT
33 Aaron Sanchez, TOR
34 Drew Smyly, TB
35 Rich Hill, OAK
36 Yu Darvish, TEX
37 Matt Shoemaker, LAA
38 Michael Fulmer, DET
39 Carlos Rodon, CWS
40 Kyle Hendricks, CHC
41 Kenta Maeda, LAD
42 Marco Estrada, TOR
43 Aaron Nola, PHI
44 James Paxton, SEA
45 Dallas Keuchel, HOU
46 Adam Wainwright, STL
47 Anthony DeSclafani, CIN
48 Lance McCullers, HOU
49 Tanner Roark, WAS
50 Trevor Bauer, CLE
51 Kevin Gausman, BAL
52 Sonny Gray, OAK
53 Chris Tillman, BAL
54 Jordan Zimmermann, DET
55 Michael Wacha, STL
56 Steven Wright, BOS
57 Jameson Taillon, PIT
58 Jimmy Nelson, MIL
59 Adam Conley, MIA
60 Zachary Davies, MIL
61 Archie Bradley, ARI
62 Francisco Liriano, PIT
63 Hisashi Iwakuma, SEA
64 Ian Kennedy, KC
65 Tyler Glasnow, PIT
66 Felix Hernandez, SEA
67 Jerad Eickhoff, PHI
68 Vincent Velasquez, PHI
69 Michael Pineda, NYY
70 Jake Odorizzi, TB
71 Nate Karns, SEA
72 Wei-Yin Chen, MIA
73 Rick Porcello, BOS
74 Danny Duffy, KC
75 J.A. Happ, TOR
76 Marcus Stroman, TOR
77 Jon Gray, COL
78 Patrick Corbin, ARI
79 Blake Snell, TB
80 Gio Gonzalez, WAS
81 Nathan Eovaldi, NYY
82 Scott Kazmir, LAD
83 Julio Urias, LAD
84 CC Sabathia, NYY
85 Junior Guerra, MIL
86 Mike Leake, STL
87 Robbie Ray, ARI
88 Jaime Garcia, STL
89 Josh Tomlin, CLE
90 Bartolo Colon, NYM
91 Matt Moore, TB
92 Mike Fiers, HOU
93 Sean Manaea, OAK
94 Cody Reed, CIN
95 Collin McHugh, HOU
96 Tim Lincecum, LAA
97 James Shields, CWS
98 A.J. Griffin, TEX
99 Kendall Graveman, OAK
100 Shelby Miller, ARI

Dropped Out: Colby Lewis, TEX (DL), Derek Holland, TEX (DL), Edinson Volquez, KC (never got out of my 90s, but yeesh did he get clobbered his last start),

  • Man, what happened to David Price this past week?!  Murderer’s row there in Texas!
  • I was sooooo wrong to lower Drew Pomeranz when he started looked a tad shaky, and now he looks insane again.  Hopefully if he’s traded, it’s to another nice park in the warm-n-fuzzy NL.
  • Most of the jostling I did this week was in the mid-range.  You got it, Razzball Nation, nice rise for Marco Estrada!  And I had a few too many scrubs staying in the 40s-50s the past few weeks…
  • The murderer’s row got to Cinderella pitcher Steven Wright as well!  While they’re hitting everything in Arlington, I’m still not ready to lump him with Marco Estrada just yet.
  • I know a little light on the notes this week, but wanted to mention Kendall Graveman.  I never was a fan in the least, but his last start against the Angels he was hitting 95 on his fastball and 91 on the cutter.  Only 1 strikeout, but it was because they kept barely tapping his fastball so he threw it a ton.  Also the Angels strike out the least in the Majors.  Graveman’s average velo is climbing and climbing – in deeper leagues I would take a look.

 

Were you all impressed with DeSclafani as well?  And what ranks made you go as insane as I sounded in the open?  Shoot your thoughts below, and happy pitching Razzball Nation!

  1. Greg says:
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    I was thinking about Graveman….favorable park and improvements. .. take a chance over CC?

    • JB Gilpin

      JB Gilpin says:
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      @Greg: Ohhhh that’s a good one. I think CC has been so hot minus the last start I would need to see one more bad CC start and one more good GRaveman start before changing them ROS, but if you’re more streaming, agree GRaveman has more upside

  2. Bob says:
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    Roater below. Want to add desclafini and Oh. Who are you dropping? Or stay as is?

    C-Weiter
    1b-rizzo
    2b-Schoop
    Ss-Correa
    MI- Deon Travis
    3b-Franco
    CI-Kang
    Of-Marte
    Of-Ozuna
    Of-heyward
    Of-Desmond
    Of-Gomez
    Ut-Aj reed
    B-Rendon
    B-Sano
    P-JFer
    P- Thor
    P-Salazar
    P-Fulmer
    P-Matz
    P-shoemaker
    P-Bauer
    P-Hector Romdon
    P- Sam Dyson
    B-Matz
    B-wacha
    Dl- strasburg

    • JB Gilpin

      JB Gilpin says:
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      @Bob: Def need to grab Oh. I’m good losing Wacha. Probably standing pat beesides that

  3. Shin-Soo Choo Choo says:
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    Where might Giolito rank with his call-up, assuming he stays up? Above or below Bauer?

    Thanks in advance.

    • JB Gilpin

      JB Gilpin says:
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      @Shin-Soo Choo Choo: Below Bauer. If I knew he would be up ROS, he still might be right in the same range. Would be close. But I worry he’s sent down again at some point

  4. Grey

    Grey says:
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    BUT WHAT ABOUT CANSECO?!

    • Long Bawls says:
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      @Grey: If I could troll myself I’d never leave the house!

      • Grey

        Grey says:
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        Interview coming tomorrow with Jose Canseco on the podcast… Just wait…

        • JB Gilpin

          JB Gilpin says:
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          @Long Bawls: @Grey: Grey knows trolling!

        • JVanSlyke says:
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          @Grey:

          I really hope you didn’t shy away from Madonna quesstions

          • JB Gilpin

            JB Gilpin says:
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            @Grey: @JVanSlyke: [comment has been redacted]

            • Long Bawls says:
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              @JB Gilpin: I can’t wait. Also, it was a trick question above. I’m a dude commenting on a fantasy baseball site. I don’t leave the house!

              • JB Gilpin

                JB Gilpin says:
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                @Long Bawls: Hahaha, well I will say our commenting atmosphere is boss If anything, our comments are KEEPING you in the house! Never leave my man!

                • Long Bawls says:
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                  @JB Gilpin: The technical term there is “enabling.” I like it!

  5. Long Bawls says:
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    Comfortable with Rodon as (low) SP3? His BABIP and HR% are a little elevated, but I do worry that he’s more of a teaser. What if his breakout was just zits?

    • JB Gilpin

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      @Long Bawls: Meh, would prefer him as a 4. So I guess not 100% comfortable. Agree he has signs that he could have a nice 2nd half, but he hasn’t been what I hoped going in haha

  6. Gonzo_The_Great says:
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    I have to drop someone if I want to start Gioloto tomorrow.

    It’s either Liriano or Conforto. I’m in a dynasty, so the latter has some keeper value. The former, who the f knows what his deal is, but after today’s ugly start I’ve lost what little patience I had left.

    Thoughts?

    • Ross Watson says:
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      Liriano

      • JB Gilpin

        JB Gilpin says:
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        @Gonzo_The_Great: @Ross Watson: Yeah agree, it’s gotta be Liriano at this point. I shoulda dropped him even further and I still think Conforto will turn into a good hitter

  7. Larry says:
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    You like Davies ahead of cody reed in a keeper too?

    • JB Gilpin

      JB Gilpin says:
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      @Larry: Whewwwwww. Man that’s close. I think Reed has the upside, Davies is the safer call. If you’re loading up in a full rebuild I would take Reed, but competing the next few years I’d take Davies

  8. patlaff says:
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    Smyly anywhere in the Top 50 just seems pigheaded at this point. He throws hard and gets Ks, but he also gets rocked. It feels like he hasn’t had a solid outing since April.

    • JB Gilpin

      JB Gilpin says:
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      @patlaff: Wow, pigheaded?! That’s a new one! I’m more self conscious of my chin than my nose…

      So 3 starts ago, 6 innings 4 hits 1 walk 2 ER 12 K isn’t a solid outing?! The one after was ok-ish, then slammed @BAL. He’s had 9 starts on the road to 6 at home. He’s been murdered on the road. More Trop starts and a slightly better road stretch will even it out.

      • Patlaff says:
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        @JB Gilpin: OK, but in the FOUR games prior to that ONE gem he pitched 21.1 innings, had 19 Ks, 7 BBs, 32 Hs and 20 ERs. Just wondering if pre-draft lust, a great start and his pure stuff aren’t clouding the issue. Thankfully, his player rating keeps him available for streaming.

        • JB Gilpin

          JB Gilpin says:
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          @Patlaff: Thats fine, but you did say since April! I wasn’t exactly a Smyly stalwart going into the year, I just see a guy with great K upside in a great park that hasn’t pitched at home enough. Tonight will be a great test, home vs DET

  9. Schlurricane

    Schlurricane says:
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    JB you heard anything on Severino? He’s healthy and seemingly pitching well in AAA. Seems like he should be back up already with the pile of garbage that is the Yanks rotation.

    • JB Gilpin

      JB Gilpin says:
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      @Schlurricane: Hah interesting you mentioned that! I looked up his MiLB numbers, and the meh K rate didn’t get my excited, so I left him out again. Plus Yanks going nowhere, if they sell, they might keep him down longer than otherwise and/or limit the innings

      • Schlurricane

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        @JB Gilpin: I can see not pushing him up for developmental reasons but considering he threw 160+ IP last year you’d expect them to stretch him to 180 this year so its not such a big jump. I guess its philosophical if you’d rather have him deal with MiLB or MLB hitters in his development. Considering I can’t think of a recently successful pitcher developed by the pinstripes I’ll assume theyre wrong!

        • JB Gilpin

          JB Gilpin says:
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          @Schlurricane: Wow, yeah I didn’t realize he got to that benchmark last year. Maybe they’ll go full Joba and move him to the bullpen for a bit too! Hahaha

          • Schlurricane

            Schlurricane says:
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            @JB Gilpin: Ha!

  10. My Thread Count Is High says:
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    What’s Happening JB…so many arm related questions and so little thread(space) lol. So I guess I’ll start with today’s SP profile. Regarding DeSclafani, no concern that he wasn’t getting a lot of swinging strikes or that it was the Padres ? I only ask because I care…he’s unowned in my league.

    Also saw a nice bump for Pineda (who I recently added hoping his recent work and upside would pay off). He was always talented, do you think he should be owned and can he continue to climb your board?

    We talked about Nola, man I thought maybe I had a diamond in the rough off the waiver wire, but his last 4 starts are the only thing that has been rough. I cut bait, no ones added him so he’s out there…any further thoughts on him? Best left on the wire?

    Also I see Pax slipped a bit, think he can right the ship or is he going to disappoint again lol?

    So Nola, Desclafani, Gausman, Kennedy and Chen are all available. Based on rankings alone Nola would be the arm to own but I know they’re fluid. So what changes would you recommend for my staff? I think Gray is my lowest rated arm on your board and my O is pretty set, I have the one bench bat, so I’d be looking at strictly swapping SP’s out.

    ESPN 12 team HTH 5×5 with OBP and QS daily moves and 4 keepers per season

    C Posey
    1B Cabrera
    2B Daniel Murphy
    3B Seager
    SS A. Russell
    OF Stanton
    OF Springer
    OF Polanco
    UTIL OF Choo
    UTIL OF L.Martin
    Bench SS/3B Suarez
    DL Sano

    SP Salazar
    SP Shoemaker
    RP Kimbrel
    RP Melancon
    P T. Walker
    P Odorizzi
    P C.Rodon
    P Pomeranz
    Bench SP Paxton
    Bench SP J.Gray
    Bench RP Estevez
    Bench SP Pineda
    DL RP McGee

    • JB Gilpin

      JB Gilpin says:
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      @My Thread Count Is High: Hah what’s up man?! Yeah DeSclafani def attacks the zone, but I like his stuff enough to not be too concerned. Lots of quick outs, then a few longer ABs with a lot of fouls, just nothing was getting hit well in the zone.

      Pineda def is on my short list of guys to keep an eye on. Def could keep climbing, would be awesome to see the HR fall too.

      Next start is at home against the Royals for Nola. I can’t see things getting better in that one. But I do think there’s still some hope he gets his mechanics ironed out again. Def not worrying about him until after the Royals game.

      Arghhhhh Pax. Stuff still looks good to me. I’m still holding hope.

      Def would consider streaming, I like most of your group right now though. Kennedy next start is against the Phillies. Might consider nabbing him over Gray for the short term

      • My Thread Count Is High says:
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        @JB Gilpin: Yeah streaming may be best, but I’m so hesitant to give up on Gray. I thought he pitched well last night, he gave up 4 runs(2 bombs) but it was at Coors and against the Jays, plus he recorded 8 K’s.

        I also keep watching Melvin Upton put up numbers and Leonys is just sitting there getting hits and not much else, would you try to get Upton on my squad listed above, I think hes on pace for 20/30, Martin seemed to be on a similar pace but doesn’t have a steal since he returned from the DL and hasn’t shown much power lately either.

        • JB Gilpin

          JB Gilpin says:
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          @My Thread Count Is High: The arm fatgue he had the start before though was a little scary too… Sure yeah I would take Upton over Martin. Was tough to buy either for a while, but yeah Upton never gets hurt and isn’t slowing down…

          • My Thread Count Is High says:
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            @JB Gilpin: Well someone scooped up Upton(he was on waivers), so on to the next. Id still like to try to improve my SS situation. Whats your thoughts on Trevor Story? I have Stanton(and cant keep him after this season 3 year max rule on keepers). Ive already tried Lindor, Bogarts, Correa and Villar in various packages and been turned down. Would Stanton for say Story and Ozuna be fair? Or am I expecting too much in that scenario? There’s also an owner that would like Stanton but he only has has Segura(not sure how much of an upgrade that is over my Russell and Suarez)at SS to offer. Other players I might could get thrown in are Freeman or Teheran. Thoughts? Only other options on the wire are Tim Anderson and Semien.

            • JB Gilpin

              JB Gilpin says:
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              @My Thread Count Is High: Hah damn… Mehhhhh, I think Story kinda is what he is – not great average, good power in Coors, but even a Stanton rental seems pricy. Not loving that other team’s options either. I would keep trying with those other teams

              • My Thread Count Is High says:
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                @JB Gilpin: Thanks buddy, since you’re gone next week gotta get all my advice this week lol. Would you trade Salazar for Wil(shoulda never dropped him earlier this season) Myers?

                • JB Gilpin

                  JB Gilpin says:
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                  @My Thread Count Is High: Hah well I’ll still be able to get to comments! I’ll be around, in the digital space that is…

                  Whewwwww Myers has been good and I always value hitting over pitching, but I think I would hold. OBP doesn’t favor him great and I see him slowing down a little

                  • My Thread Count Is High says:
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                    @JB Gilpin: Good to know, appreciate the info. I dropped Suarez for the hot hand in Semien at SS. Which means Semien will probably go ice cold lol.

  11. Jeff says:
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    drop steven matz now or wait to see what he looks like if they dont go w the surgery? I hate owning him tbh.

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      JB Gilpin says:
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      @Jeff: Ugh yeah, annoying news. I got blasted for not ranking him higher several times too! Def wait for now, I think Lester is pitching through bone chips or a spur or something that flared up in the offseason, and he’s obviously dealing

  12. tbone says:
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    4×4 would you trade v martinez and zeigler for heyward and dan salazer

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      @tbone: Ummm, if you need K/pitching help then sure. Probably doing it in most situations though

  13. scott steelers says:
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    See some daniel norris potential? Also smyly doesn’t drop at all? Only game he’s been great in in his last 8 or so was the one he had a 10 day rest on

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      @scott steelers: Yeah I highlighted my thoughts on Smyly above, mostly that he’s had 9 road starts to 6 home, and I think he will start finding success in the Trop.

      Love Daniel Norris as a guy, but for fantasy I’m kinda blah on him. I don’t think he has electric stuff to become a K guy, so he’ll be left to the whims of BABIP and HR rate

  14. Rondo says:
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    I have an offer on the table in a H2H points league.

    Give Salazar AND Carrasco
    for
    Kris Bryant

    My pitching staff is:
    SP- Salaazar, Quintana, Matz, Colome
    RP- Familia, Britton
    Bench – Carrasco, Samardzija, Ross, Hill(DL)

    Waiver Wire pitchers:
    Kennedy, Eickhoff, Odorizzi, Garcia, DeSclafani, Rodon, Conley

    • JB Gilpin

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      @Rondo: Mannnnn. I know Bryant is off a historic game, but in a points league, that’s a lot of pitching and I duno if you have the depth there. especially with Matz iffy. Leaning hold, very tough choice tho

  15. Nitro says:
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    Do you think Jackie Bradley Jr. is too much to offer for Tanner Roark?

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      JB Gilpin says:
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      @Nitro: Yeah probably, I know Bradley is cooling off, but he’s still a solid bat in the league’s best O

      • nitro says:
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        @JB Gilpin: what level pitcher would you ask for?

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          JB Gilpin says:
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          @nitro: Ummm I might shoot into the top 40 or so, maybe like a Pomeranz or something at the least…

  16. brett says:
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    Travis got me intrigued. Esp at leadoff. Better than C Gomez for Util?

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    brett says:
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    12 team 6×6 league with OPS and holds the extra categories. We can keep 5 260 auction budget. Drafted players can be kept for 2 additional years or prior to year 2 given a contract which raises their price $5 every year. Pick ups can be kept for 1 year at 5 or faab price which ever is more.

    I am currently in 3rd. My staff: J fer, Salazar, Cueto, Matz, Joe Ross, Taillon, Urias, Nola

    Current keepers options
    Harper 23, Machado 24 and J Fer13 are close to sure things. My other options for my last 2 spots:

    drafted players: Belt 11, Kang 7, Story 4, Bryant 46, Matz 3, Joe Ross 1, Salazar 15

    Pick ups: Mazara 8, AJ Reed 5, Taillon 5, Urias 5

    Have a trade from last place team looking for keepers Matz for Price. Would you do this?

    • JB Gilpin

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      @brett: Hmmmmm that’s a close one. Ya know what, I’m going for it, gimme Travis right now. Yeah I doubt Matz is making your keepers and with this elbow thing, I would take Price for sure

  17. Ryan741 says:
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    JB, how worried about Noah are you? I’ve got him as an 11th round keeper for next year in a H2H points league, but I was just offered Bryce for him and Bryce is still a 7th round keeper himself. Pull the trigger?

    • Slim

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      @Ryan741: Poor Bryce Dejean-Jones… He didn’t deserve his fate. Noah on the Knicks should be solid, just not much of a points league guy… Wait a minute, am I on the right site?

      • JB Gilpin

        JB Gilpin says:
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        @Ryan741: @Slim: WRONG SPORT SLIM!

        Haha I’m a smidge worried, but that keeper price in a Pts is so dynamite. Bryce with the walks tho… I think that’s actually worth taking especially if you’re competing for this year still

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          @JB Gilpin I ended up taking the deal. There are no negative points for K’s for hitters. I did end up having to add Piscotty to the deal and got Gausman in return also. But I’ve got Ross, Giolito, Stras, Harvey, Urias and Fulmer all as keep SP options. And all are double digit round values except for Stras who’s a 6th and Harvey who’s a 9th.

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            JB Gilpin says:
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            @Ryan741: Oh wow, yeah in that case DEF taking Harper, nice move! Great offense to build around, I’m surprised given that format the Bryce owner moved him

  18. Slim

    Slim says:
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    No Dapper Dan?!? Lincecum instead? Shame! Shame! Shame!

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      JB Gilpin says:
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      @Slim: Yeahhhh I was close to adding Mengden. Angels have no incentive to hold back Timmy I worry Mengden is gonna fall off long term and get innings held back

  19. knucks says:
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    So VV looked pretty good last night @AZ.

    I currently have him in a DL slot and will need to make a move at the end of this week with him. My league is 12 team Roto with QS instead of Wins. With Velasquez, I’m not so worried about him getting shut down in late AUG/SEPT. More about his pitch count in games and whether or not he will usually go 6 strong, to qualify for a QS.

    Paxton, Desclafani, VV

    Between these 3, I need to drop one. From the rankings, it sounds like VV would be the correct choice. Did last night’s promising start (away from Philly) change that? He has been much better at home, as noted several times on Razz.

    Just for reference, some of the available arms on our wire… Iwakuma/Corbin/Liriano/Kennedy/Volquez/JimmyNelson/Sabathia

    So I don’t expect the SP I drop to be available for long. However, no one is interested in trading with me right now. Been trying for the past week or two.

    Love the Profiles JB, you did a great job with this one. So thanks as always, one of my favorite things on the site.

    • JB Gilpin

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      @knucks: Yeah he did! Yeah I still think Velsaquez is third for me ROS even without shutdown concerns mostly due to that QS caveat. Just doesn’t pitch deep very often. I don’t think Velsaquez is that different than say Jimy Nelson ROS so I don’t think you’ll miss him too bad. Thanks so much for that man! Really appreciate it, it’s probably the most work we put in to any posts!

  20. PetFed says:
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    Would you take:
    Jordan Zimmermann
    Brad Ziegler
    Steven Souza Jr.
    Fernando Rodney

    For

    Michael Pineda
    Craig Kimbrel
    Jeanmar Gómez
    Taijuan Walker

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      @PetFed: I think I would stick with the Walker side, but it’s close and no huge pieces in it, so if a deeper league and desperately needing the OF you get in Souza and had good pitching I could see doing it

  21. Duda Want to Build a Snowman? says:
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    Hey JB!

    In one of my leagues (h2h obp redraft), I’m in the nice spot of being way ahead in first, and almost guaranteed to secure a playoff first round bye at this point. So, I’m trying to build my team with the H2H playoffs in mind–

    What do you think of me getting Grienke for my Hill and Gattis? Supergreen or not so green?

    Hill I love, but can’t imagine him still pitching in Sept. Gattis is a power beast, but his OBP is just horrible and I snagged Willson Contreras (great bb rate) who I’d prefer anyway. Grienke was never huge on, but he should be good for an elite whip and 3.5ish at least rest of way, right?

    Thanks!

    • JB Gilpin

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      @Duda Want to Build a Snowman?: Yo! Oh yes, that’s a great move! Greinke while hurt might have his owner wanting him to shop. Agree Hill pitching in Sept is a ricky proposition at best. And yeah with Contreras, you’re set there. I think it’s a huge win!

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        @JB Gilpin: Thanks! Should I wait on Grienke injury updates, or strike while it’s hot and pull the trigger? Seems like he’s a sure bet to, in any event, return by end of ASB.

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          @Duda Want to Build a Snowman?: I would go ahead and pull the trigger, even if it ends up being a little longer, 1-2 months at the max would mean he’s there for you for the playoffs which I think is your main goal :)

  22. Duda Want to Build a Snowman? says:
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    Also, what do you think of either of the below trades?

    Hammel + Shark + Berrios for my Salazar

    Shark or Hammel, Billy Hamilton, and Berrios for Salazar

    Billy hamiltons steals would put me from 6/12 to 3/12 overall if I had him all season up to now, so SB are very valuable on my team.

    Thanks!

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      @Duda Want to Build a Snowman?: Hamilton getting ANOTHER concussion scares me a little though. Berrios I don’t even know needs to be owned in redraft, and Hammel fading in the 2nd half past few years scares me. I don’t mind shopping Salazar for some steals but I think I would try for some different offers

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        @JB Gilpin: Thanks! Yeah that’s where I keep landing too. His latest offer was Salazar for his Shark + Hammel + Leonys. Not sure that moves the needle enough.

  23. Christian Herman says:
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    12 team H2H ESPN standard a buddy of mine asked me “should I sell darvish for McCullers & urias?” The kid with darvish has Jose Maeda nola matz Kennedy fuhlmer snell gray Bradley shoemaker odorizzi medgen estevez so it’s not an elite staff yet. Thoughts,

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      @Christian Herman: Standard = redraft too right? I’d def take Darvish. Urias isn’t gonna pitch too many more innings, so it’s basically a few more starts from him and McCullers for an upgrade, I like it!

  24. My Thread Count Is High says:
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    Hey JB…estamos fuera de la habitacion! Ha, so any change in your thoughts on Pineda after todays start in the Ranger Zone? One4 HR otherwise lots of K’s , another QS, he’s been solid for over a month now. I almost dropped him for Tony Disco earlier this week with you being so high on him in the pitcher profile this week.

    Guys still working me on Lindor he wants Salazar and another arm, mentioned Shoemaker or Walker, but I think thats too high of a price. From my roster below what 2nd arm would you include with Salazar for Lindor if any?

    And finally I have McGee on my DL and Estevez has blown a few lately, yet the Rockies are saying that the closer situation is in flux, meaning McGee isnt necessarily getting the gig back. So if I was to give up my 3rd closer(meaning drop Estevez) would you add Gausman, Tony Disco, or Nola(and sit him until he irons shit out)? Also would you hold Pineda and Gray or would you dump Gray and Estevez and add 2 arms from the aforementioned names?

    • My Thread Count Is High says:
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      [email protected]My Thread Count Is High: Hes countered with Walker and Shoe for Lindor now…thoughts on that and the other plethora of questions I just posted lol. And btw, thanks for putting up with my assault style posting lol.

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        @My Thread Count Is High: We’re in a habitation?! Haha I no se Espanol! Yeah I’m starting to buy there.

        Whoa yeah I am totally good getting Lindor at that price! Salazar plus Shoemaker would be a big win in my book, then it opens so much roster room for you not needing 2 SS :) And double whoa, yes definitely take the Walker one!!!!!!

        Def holding Pineda for now. Ummm, Estevez might be my only drop, probably still nabbing Nola and crossing my fingers we see positive signs

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          @JB Gilpin: My Spanish is rusty, and limited but it should have been we’re out of room in spanish lol. Thanks for the feedback, Walker was hella good last night, and Shoe has been lights out so I’ve been hesitant but my SS situation needs upgrading in the worst way. And it seems like there are always arms out there for the taking. Infact I have Sano on the DL but he is suppose to be activated today, was still on the fence about Estevez, so I dropped Leonys Martin(who would have been my drop for Sano anyway) and snuck Tony Disco on my roster for now lol. Figured someone would stream him and Id lose the opportunity. If I do Walker and Shoe it’ll opem up the space I need for Sano anyway. Then I can do Estevez for Nola.

          • My Thread Count Is High says:
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            @My Thread Count Is High: Now he has countered again with Shoe, Pom, and Choo. I dont really want to give Choo, would you do it though?

            • JB Gilpin

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              @My Thread Count Is High: Wow this guy just WANTS to give you Lindor! Yeah I’m taking this deal. Opens up 2 rosters spots, one to go to Sano and more ammo to play around with week to week

              • My Thread Count Is High says:
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                @JB Gilpin: And now nothing lol…guess he got cold feet. Oh well Ill keep flip flopping Russell and Semien for now.

                I had McGee stashed, not sure if he regains the closer role or not, didnt look so hot in early relief tonight, so I dumped him to stream Gray at the Dodgers tomorrow. Ive tweaked my SP’s since Im only running two closers and activated Sano. My biggest question is should I look to re-acquire mcGee, make two SP drops and get McGee and Estevez or hold what I got?

                ESPN 12 team HTH 5×5 with OBP and QS daily moves and 4 keepers per season

                C Posey
                1B Cabrera
                2B Daniel Murphy
                3B Seager
                SS A. Russell
                OF Stanton
                OF Springer
                OF Polanco
                UTIL OF Choo
                UTIL OF Sano
                Bench SS Semien
                DL Empty

                SP Salazar
                SP Shoemaker
                RP Kimbrel
                RP Melancon
                P T. Walker
                P Pineda
                P C.Rodon
                P Pomeranz
                Bench SP Paxton
                Bench SP J.Gray
                Bench SP Gausman
                Bench SP DeSclafani
                DL SP A. Cobb

                • My Thread Count Is High says:
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                  @My Thread Count Is High:

                  More tweaks, no Lindor but I did swing a trade for Baez, costed me T.Walker(might be a little pricey) but ultimately Choo, Pom and Shoe for Lindor was losing more pitching and an OBP machine in Choo, so I pulled the trigger. I’ll keep Russel as my SS/bench bat and can flip flop him and Baez(who has 2B, SS, and 3B eligibility). Thougts, while not ideal, I figured it was worth a shot.

                  Next question though…would you drop Gray for Nola(his next start is skipped but I could see someone expecting a bounceback and adding him), or would you re-add Mcgee to handcuff Estevez? Or I could go with just 2 closers drop Estevez and/or Gray and add 1-2 guys between Nola, Odorizzi, or Kennedy…or I could keep Gray and Estevez and just hold. Feedback appreciated!

                  • JB Gilpin

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                    @My Thread Count Is High: Cool, I think it was a little pricey too, but helps give you some roster flexibility – I love guys like that in Baez.

                    I dropped McGee in a league myself… So messy, and they’ll prob trade someone… I kinda think I would lose him for NOla and hold Gray and be cautious when you play them, maybe only when they’re looking good again/in good matchups

                    • My Thread Count Is High says:
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                      @JB Gilpin: So I dropped Gray for Nola, would you hold Estevez or drop him to re-acquire Gray? I also have stashed Cobb on my DL. New roster below…thanks for taking the time to comment and enjoy your trip!

                      ESPN 12 team HTH 5×5 with OBP and QS daily moves and 4 keepers per season

                      C Posey
                      1B Cabrera
                      2B Daniel Murphy
                      3B Seager
                      SS A. Russell
                      OF Stanton
                      OF Springer
                      OF Polanco
                      UTIL OF Choo
                      UTIL OF Sano
                      Bench 2B/SS/3B Baez
                      DL Empty

                      SP Salazar
                      SP Shoemaker
                      RP Kimbrel
                      RP Melancon
                      P Nola
                      P Pineda
                      P C.Rodon
                      P Pomeranz
                      Bench SP Paxton
                      Bench RP Estevez
                      Bench SP Gausman
                      Bench SP DeSclafani
                      DL SP A. Cobb

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                      Need a new thread! Yeah I think Ottavino or McGee take the closer job soon. I’d lose Estevez for Gray and continue to go cautiously with Nola and Gray, but both should be owned a little longer

  25. primetime says:
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    JB, 10 team keeper league (OBP/K/9) – Keep 3 pitchers, keep 7 players total

    Team is below. One of the owners who is out of it offered up Lackey for a draft pick. I offered up a 5th, he wants a 4th. Is Lackey worth it? He also owns MIggie and Braun. Braun i don’t think is worth it, but Miggie I would love but it will cost a fortune. So Lackey is the only guy and I just loss Strausburg and Kershaw. I think my pitching is already strong. So would you offer up next 4th rd pick for John Lackey?

    Wieters
    Belt
    Kinsler
    Arenado
    Seager
    Marte
    Bradley
    Duvall
    Trumbo

    Bench
    Freeman
    Profar ( I may drop him for Kendry Morales)
    Mazara
    Heyward ( I hate this guy)
    JD Mart – DL
    Pence – DL

    Starting Pitchers

    Kershaw DL
    Strausburg DL
    Duffy
    Salazar
    Hammel

    Allen
    Kimbrel

    Bench
    Odorizzi
    Pineda (grabbed him yesterday)
    Taillon
    Roark

    • JB Gilpin

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      @primetime: Yikkkkes yeah some rough pitching injuries, thankfully both your hurt studs are short term. So a 4th rd pick is basically and 11th round pick… i think that’s fine for Lackey, probably a win-win kinda deal

  26. Drunk Mets PR Team says:
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    JB, sorry to bump an old post, but would love your wise counsel!

    I’m in a (weird)12-team H2H league with Wins, QS, ERA, K/9, and BB/9 as categories. My staff is Kluber, Carrasco, Ross, Samardzjia, Smyly, Shoemaker, and Giolito.

    Need to make a couple adds… Available are Rodon, McCullers, Junior Guerra, and Ian Kennedy. Leaning Rodon and McCullers based on your rankings… agree?

    • JB Gilpin

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      @Drunk Mets PR Team: Bumping is always encouraged! Oh man, those stats REALLY favor Guerra. Pretty good Ks, doesn’t walk guys, QS should be great for him. He’s gonna shoot up. Give me him and Rodon :)

  27. PED Inc says:
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    Really missed your post on Monday buddy! You’re gonna have to do two this week to make up!
    Just kidding with ya, I really appreciate your contribution to this site.

    I’m pretty fed up with Walker now and I think it’s time to cut him loose to be someone else’s problem, I haven’t even been able to unload him in a trade.
    Here’s my staff and a couple guys on the wire that i would like to add, which moves would you make? H2H 10 team points redraft league, I’m in first and already made the playoffs so I’m looking long term for the playoffs.
    Thanks as always buddy!

    Syndergard
    Salazar
    Cmart
    Archer
    Hendricks
    Danny Duffy
    Matz
    Walker
    Giolito

    Darvish (DL)
    I also have Segura and Devin Travis that I’ve been flip flopping since Travis came off the DL and I’m ready to drop one to make room for another pitcher.

    On the wire:
    Shoemaker (recently dropped)
    Desclafini
    Taillon
    Bud Norris
    Fister
    Jon Gray
    Graveman
    Stroman

    I’m thinking drop Walker to pick one up and leave the other spot for steaming, what say you buddy??

    • PED Inc says:
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      @PED Inc: I guess add Glasnow to that list as well since it just broke that he got the call!

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        @PED Inc: GlasNOW!!!!!!!!! Hah, he’s such a punny name… Haha, sorry I missed this week, but no more vacations for me this year! I think…

        Yeah Walker HAS to be going on the DL at this point. I’m losing patience too, wish they couldve nipped this foot thing in the bud.

        Mannnn, a lot of good options! Gotta think there’s room for Glasnow and Shoemaker…. I’d prob drop Segura in a Pts league and nab Glasnow for the upside, then any other bench bats?

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          @JB Gilpin: my only other bench bat is JD Martinez, luckily I was able to grab Myers when he started to get hot before JD hit the DL. My OF now consists of Myers, Polanco, and Trout so I really don’t need Martinez even when he comes off the DL so I could unload him for one of those pitchers.
          I didn’t get to see Desclafini’s start tonight but it looks like he just put up another quality start and win, against the Cubs nonetheless and Stroman just put up another strong start so there’s that.

          • JB Gilpin

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            @PED Inc: Yeah seems weird to drop him, but if he’s not in a DL spot for this being a shallow league, I’m all for it.

            Ugh I know right?! Still think I would go Glasnow and Shoemaker of your list, DeSclafani I was big on when he got back on the mound, but he’s narrowly behind as is Stroman

            • PED Inc says:
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              @JB Gilpin: Done and done buddy! Thanks!

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                JB Gilpin says:
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                @PED Inc: Any time!

  28. My Thread Count Is High says:
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    Always out of room lol…yeah Gray got snagged off the wire, thought since it was a home start he might still be there but no such luck. So I’ll probably just hold, watch the Rockies closer situation or wait for a new arm or call up to distinguish himself.

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