Today, it’s time for the top 60 starters for 2015 fantasy baseball, but, first, let’s jump in the world’s worst time machine and go back to this past Tuesday morning when Rudy released the Steamer Hitter/Pitcher projections along with the fantasy auction values for every conceivable league.  If you go to the ESPN 12 team auction values (or any page from the menu on that auction value page), you’ll see little boxes above each column.  Go to the POS box and type in SP.  Frank Voila!  Now it’s just listing pitchers (you can sort for whatever you want in the top boxes).  Now click on the $/G box.  It should turn black.  You are now sorting by the dollars expected to earn per game for starters.  If you click on the $K column, you are now sorting by who is expected to rack up the most Ks.  So on and so forth.  All of my 2015 fantasy baseball rankings are there.  As always, my tiers and projections are included.  Anyway, here’s the top 60 starters for 2015 fantasy baseball:

41. Gio Gonzalez – (See top 40 starters for 2015 fantasy baseball for previous tiers.) This is a new tier.  This tier goes from here until Quintana.  I call this tier, “You can see these guys are a bad mother– Shut yo’ mouth!”  This tier is made of guys that were shafted.  They prolly all should be ranked higher than they are, but for one reason or another, they ended up here.  As for Gio, I fully expected to dislike him this year.  I could’ve sworn he was terrible last year.  I remembered things differently than they were.  Kinda like how you have fond memories of high school.  Skidmark wasn’t a nickname of endearment, and Gio wasn’t bad last year.  He was injured, and missed a month.  The first time that happened in his career.  He is now 29 years old, and I don’t expect him to Benjamin Button himself to 28 years old, but his stuff and rates were pretty much on par with past seasons.  2015 Projections:  14-10/3.46/1.25/186

42. James Shields – As of right now, he still hasn’t signed with a team.  Maybe Scott Boras should remove the stipulation from the signing team that they need to give Shields an alpaca farm where the alpacas poop hundred dollar bills.  Everyone knows only Larry Ellison has those alpacas!  If Shields goes to the Padres, I could see getting slightly more excited about Shields, but as of right now he’s coming off his 2nd straight year where his K-rate has fallen, and he’s about a K away from being Henderson AlvarezUPDATE:  The Padres signed Shields for $75 million, which points out the error in my pre-signing blurb, Boras was obviously not his agent.  Boras once got $75 million for a sportswear mannequin that was wanted in the dress suit section of a Macy’s.  Well, that’s the Hudson under the Tappan Zee.  Shields gets a boost in value by being in Petco vs. weaker offenses.  His falling K-rate is a red flag, but his velocity has been fine and I could see a small bounce back in Ks.  That’s likely a moot point since he’ll prolly be drafted prior to this spot due to name value and drafters getting excited about the Padres, in general.  Tell me you thought I’d ever write that about the Padres.  2015 Projections:  13-10/3.42/1.18/181

43. Lance Lynn –  I waffled on Lynn a bit with whether I wanted to draft him or not.  First, I had him in the above tier, then in the below tier, then I landed him here.  I hate waffling.  Unless I’m blueberry waffling.  He generates swings outside the strike zone at a below league average clip, and his swinging strike rate is 8.4, which is also below league average.  Last year, he had a 2.74 ERA, but that was driven by a high LOB% and a low (for him) BABIP.  He’ll likely have a 4+ ERA month as he always seems to have, end up on waivers and get touted by me to pick him up, but draft him?  Some days I like Lynn, other days not likely(nn).  2015 Projections: 14-10/3.60/1.28/186

44. Garrett Richards – I had a note next to his name that said, “Check knee,” which I promptly did, so that makes me a Chechnya Russian. *high fives self*  Ow, my hand!  I could see dropping Richards to around the 120th overall starter slot if he has a setback in camp to moving him up into the top 40 starters if he’s locked into a rotation role out of camp.  My money is on he’s not ready to start the season, but is pegged to return mid-April and I just draft him around this slot, which is why I ranked him here.  2015 Projections:  10-6/3.39/1.21/155 in 170 IP

45. Jake Peavy – Here’s what I said this offseason, “Re-signed with the Giants.  After Bumgarner, to find a Giants starter in San Fran, all you need to do is find a hill and go over it.  Peavy’s been a Hall of Fame pitcher in the NL West and barely major league ready in the American League.  In NL West parks, he has a lifetime 3.20 ERA in 1092 IP.  In 726 1/3 IP in the AL, he has a 4.20 ERA.  He’ll likely be someone most drafters don’t give much mind to, but in deeper leagues Peavy-type draft picks can help you win your league.”  And that’s me quoting me!  2015 Projections: 12-8/3.57/1.22/152

46. Jose Quintana – I love the Hispanics.  Just the other day I did get in an argument with my man maid, Gilmer.  It was Cougs’ birthday and I hadn’t gotten her flowers.  She was out, and Gilmer kept guilting me.  I’d say, “No moleste,” and he’d say, “You have to get Ms. Grey flores,” and we went back and forth for about ten minutes until I went, but Gilmer was right and we are now good.  I’d even say our relationship has gone to a new level.  He’s almost like a mentor to me that also cleans my underwear.  I say all of this because Quintana should likely be higher.  I’m not sure why I don’t like him that much.  He had a 3.32 ERA with a 3.37 xFIP, so there wasn’t a whole lot of luck.  His K-rate was 8 and walk rate was 2.3.  His K-rate went up from his previous years significantly.  His velocity stayed around the same at 91.6 MPH, which is not elite.  That velocity tells me a mid-7-ish K-rate is more likely without something else.  I see he threw his curve a shizzton.  Almost 25% of the time.  Look at his swinging strike rates on his curve and fastball.  Yup, the curve was the reason for his success.  Opponents hit .184 against the curve (.295 vs. the fastball).  Then, I looked at league context.  He throws the curve the 7th most in the league.  Summation, he has one dazzling breaking pitch and good control.  To me, that’s a guy that can be as successful as last year, not much more, and needs to walk a fine line, because if he loses the feel for his best pitch, he’s unusable.  Why he’s worse than Smyly?  I have no idea.  Maybe Gilmer knows.  2015 Projections: 13-9/3.51/1.26/175

47. Jered Weaver – This is a new tier.  This tier goes from here until Odorizzi.  I call this tier, “I just felt like I needed to break up all the pitchers I liked with a crap tier so here we are.”  As for Weaver, you know the carpet store near you that has been going out of business for the last seven years?  You keep passing by and thinking at some point you’ll get a carpet because they really will go out of business eventually.  Then, when you finally get the cash together to buy one, they are out of business.  That’s Jered Weaver.  At some point, he will pull the rug out from underneath you.  2015 Projections: 12-10/3.75/1.26/151

48. Alex Cobb – Hmm, maybe I should’ve named this tier, “If they pitch 200 IP, they will be an easy number one starter.”  Unlike Cole and Hamels or Gerrit and Cole or– forget it!  Unlike the two previous guys, Cobb hasn’t had arm-related injuries that have sidelined him the past two years.  He got beaned on the coconut one year and an oblique strain last year.  In 166 1/3 IP in 2014, he still had a 2.87 ERA, a 8.1 K/9 and a 2.5 BB/9.  I don’t foresee huge jumps in any of those stats, but, if he just maintains the torso, he’s a number one.  UPDATE:  Cobb is going to miss time due to forearm tightness, which is code for Dr. James Andrews is about to get a new Lambo with suicide doors.  2015 Projections:  9-8/3.67/1.18/139 in 160 IP

49. Hyun-Jin Ryu – He’s about the best value you’re gonna find for a number two starter.  Last year, he had a 8.2 K/9 and a 1.7 BB/9.  Those are elite numbers.  He’ll only be 28 years old (unless you’re reading this in two years, then he’s much older and you’re reading an old post).  From 2013 to 2014, he actually got much better, and we can’t be sure that we’ve seen his peak.  Oh, and the Dodgers could win 110 games.  I don’t hand out lots of wins in projections because of their unpredictability, but it’s worth noting that my 14 wins projections could become 18 wins pretty easily.  Ryu intrigued?  Ryu and me both.  UPDATE:  Ryu experiencing pain.  Not a question, though I appreciate hearing about your bunions.  2015 Projections:  10-6/3.59/1.23/132

50. Cliff Lee – I was going to say, “You don’t think pitchers can fall this far off the map then go looking for Lincecum in the top 100,” but that allusion doesn’t hold true.  It is an allusion too, not a trick.  Lincecum has other things to fry besides eroding skills, age and his brain.  The Adverb hasn’t lost his control, which makes him a tad less scary for downside and the NL East, which could cure most ills (see Bartolo for further reference).  The Adverb will still be 37 in August and he’s coming off elbow issues that he refused surgery for.  He could be fine, but he won’t be on any of my teams to find out.  UPDATE:  All the pitchers I wanted to avoid are being sidelined in the spring, which reminds me, I want to draft all my teams in January.  The Adverb may or may not be done, but I wouldn’t draft him anywhere.  2015 Projections:  11-9/3.78/1.27/130

51. Dallas Keuchel – His 2.93 ERA last year was predicated mostly on ground balls.  Ground balls are fine, but they’re not safe to count on every year.  Or “Bleh!” as The Count would say.  They’re not as safe as a 96 MPH fastball.  Last year, Keuchel had 89 MPH stuff, and the league’s best ground ball rate (63.5%).  His career rate is 58.4%, and his previous high was 55.8%.  Ground balls are susceptible to luck.  If a ball bounces through, there’s nothing the pitcher can do.  In 2013, lots of balls bounced through and Keuchel had a 5.15 ERA.  Keuchel can be useful or better, but it’s gonna come down to, er, being down with his pitches.  2015 Projections:  11-12/3.81/1.27/140

52. Jake Odorizzi – Most of the guys in this tier have seen better days or their best days, but Odorizzi’s better days could be yet to come.  Still, I don’t trust him, not yet at least.  His K-rate was exceptional last year (9.1 K/9), but his velocity (90 MPH fastball) isn’t and neither is his control (3.2 BB/9).  He reads to me a little like Dan Straily.  Odorizzi’s younger, has a bit better stuff… Okay, I don’t even know what made me compare him to Straily.  Odorizzi looks and feels to me like a 7.7 to 8.4 K/9 and a 2.7 BB/9 and 3.3 BB/9.  So, if you draft him and get 8.4 K/9 with a 2.7 BB/9, you’re set like you thought you were the day you graduated from college.  If you get 7.7 K/9 and 3.3 BB/9, you’re five years out of college and wondering if you need another degree.  2015 Projections: 10-14/3.83/1.30/181

53. Andrew Cashner – This is a new tier.  This tier goes from here until Eovaldi.  I call this tier, “Bridge Building 101.”  Imagine you’re building a bridge.  This is your first bridge, and you had to glad-hand some pretty important people to even get the contract.  You start the bridge and everyone is caca-cuckoo with possibilities.  People are saying you’re a visionary.  You might be the Frank Lloyd Wright of bridges.  Of course, the only thing you know about bridges is what you read in an eHow article on how to build a bridge.  But somehow, someway, it’s coming together.  You can’t believe it yourself.  Thing is, anyone can start building a bridge.  You’re on dry land.  You can stand.  The end is the same, only when you get to the end, you’re also excited to be finished.  The middle is the pain in the ass.  Guys and four girl readers, we’re in a tier of guys I’d draft to float the middle of my staff.  There’s no safe, steady ground here, you just need to get through it.  As for Cashner, he’s 28 years old and has still yet to throw a complete season.  He also has two straight years of an under 7 K/9.  He lost three miles off his fastball from 2012.  (I swear this will get good soon.)  No fear, parenthetical, it’s all good now.  He pitches in Petco and his career ERA is 3.25 in 409 2/3 IP.  Don’t expect more than 150 IP, but it should be a good 150 IP from a ratio standpoint.  2015 Projections:  9-10/3.11/1.18/117

54. Ervin Santana – This offseason, I said, “(Ervin) signed with the Twins.  There’s an old chap in Minnesota who heard Ervin’s headed to his great state, and briefly thought his 60-year dream of the Minneapolis Lakers returning has finally been answered.  Note to free agent pitchers:  if you have to go to the AL, may as well be to pitch your home games in Hubert H. Homerfree Retrodome.  Though, that’s only accurate per the strictest sense of knocking down homers.  The Retrodome has played well for BABIP and runs of late.  Either way, Ervin just pitched in the AL Central in 2013 and had a 3.24 ERA, so he’s capable of being a number three fantasy starter.”  And that’s me quoting me! UPDATE: Busted for PEDs and won’t be around until the 2nd half of the season.  Too bad Salazar and Fiers didn’t have this happen with their history of 2nd half dominance.    2015 Projections:  12-10/3.58/1.27/168

55. Shelby Miller – Here’s what I said this offseason, “Okay, I didn’t like (Shelby) this past year, but he’ll probably be a 2.75 ERA pitcher on the Braves.  I’m only slightly exaggerating when I say the NL East has two hitters in the entire division to fear:  Stanton and Harper.  And last year it was only Stanton.  Doug Fister had a 2.41 ERA last year, and he only struck out 98 batters in 164 IP.  That’s egregious, Jackie Chiles.  I’m not a huge Miller fan due to the lack of Ks (6.25 K/9 last year), and his walk rate (3.59).  However, he did pitch terrifically in September if you’re into small sample sizes — That’s what she said! Huh? — with a 1.48 BB/9 in September.  If he can hold that walk rate for 2015, he’s a top 30 pitcher next year.  I have my doubts about going that far, but I still think he gains value with this move.”  And that’s me copying and pasting me! 2015 Projections: 12-9/3.52/1.23/152

56. Wily Peralta – He couldn’t jazz me enough to move him into a nom nom nom tier, but he also has me relatively excited, which is odd since he has back-to-back seasons of yawnstipating K-rates (6.3 K/9 in 2013; 7 K/9 in 2014).  He throws fast (95.8 MPH fastball, third fastest in the majors for starters), he’s only 25, has decent control and his Ks, while not amazing, are going in the right direction.  What’s not to like?  Well, he struggles vs. lefties, and gives up homers, especially at home.  Miller Park seems to bring out his alter ego, Wily Nilly.  I’ll be taking a chance on him in some leagues, but I’d keep expectations in the Czech Republic.  2015 Projections:  12-12/3.68/1.28/162

57. A.J. Burnett – Here’s hoping he waits until July to start talking about retirement.  2015 Projections:  12-13/3.87/1.31/182

58. Nathan Eovaldi – Here’s what I said this offseason, “A fast fastball does not make a pitcher (though it makes you sound like a stutterer).  In 199 2/3 IP last year, Eovaldi averaged a 95.5 MPH, which was the fourth fastest fastball on average for all starters.  Number one was Garrett Richards, then Yordano Ventura, then Wily Peralta, and Stephen Strasburg came in right after Eovaldi.  Each have their own peccadilloes, but I’d target any of them if they were all healthy (that’s a nod to Richards), even the unsexy Peralta had a 3.53 ERA last year.  Last year, Eovaldi had a 3.37 FIP and 3.78 xFIP due to a poor BABIP and a tad unlucky LOB%.  That means, all things being equal, Eovaldi should’ve had an ERA in the high threes.  So, right there, he’s already better than the 4.37 ERA from last year.  The other issue with him is the 6.40 K/9.  It’s not terrific.  He did have moments in the low minors where he had a 8+ K/9, and you’d think with his velocity he’d be able to get more swings and misses.  Well, I’d think it, at least.  He doesn’t get many hitters to chase pitches outside the strike zone (66th worst last year for qualified starters), and his swing and miss percentage isn’t much better (8.4%, good for about 53rd worst).  These actually moved up from 2013.  Something else that moved up dramatically?  Ew, gross, get your hands out of your pants!  What also progressed was his walk rate.  Last year, he had a 1.9 BB/9.  That is 22nd best in the majors, and the only pitchers he really matches up with velocity and control are Strasburg and Jeff Samardzija.  This is common sense, but when you throw the ball fast and can control it good things can and should happen, i.e., you can put the ball where hitters can’t hit it.  Oh, and we don’t have to worry about him only throwing a partial season.  He’s 24 years old and he just came off a 200 IP season.  One little step forward and Eovaldi becomes a top 40 starter and everyone wishes they had him.  The fantastic thing about him, he’s going to be as cheap as the oregano you pawned off as marijuana to your friends in high school.”  And that’s me– Well, you know the drill.  2015 Projections:  10-8/3.73/1.31/148

59. Rick Porcello – This is a new tier.  This tier goes from here until the top 80 starters for 2015 fantasy baseball.  I call this tier, “Guys that I don’t like that I end up unintentionally endorsing because others dislike them even more.” For some reason, year in and year out, another clunky opening to a sentence, other ‘perts seem to hate the guys in this tier more than me, and I don’t even like them all that much.  This tier could be summed up with a sideways emoticon giving the middle finger to a glass of Merlot.  If you come up to this tier and want to skip it, I won’t hate, but I also won’t congratulate.  I’m a poet and aware of it!  As for Porcello, this offseason, I said, “(He was) traded to the Sawx.  The Red Sox are going for quantity of starters over quality this offseason.  Next thing you know they’ll make an offer for Bartolo.  You can’t find more quantity than Bartolo.  In Fenway, Porcello has a lifetime 6.41 ERA.  Sawx fans, you are now contenders.  Why even play the games?!  Seriously, put the crown that was once worn by Babe Ruth on your head and prance through Faneuil Hall in your gotchies.  I’m just joshing.  That ERA was only in 19 2/3 IP and doesn’t mean anything.  Porcello had the 20th lowest fly ball rate, and regularly induces ground balls.  He should be able to handle Fenway about as well as he handled Comerica….Where he had a lifetime ERA of 4.58 in 529 IP!  Let’s name him the World Series MVP right now, Sox fans!  You got this thing in the bag!  Porcello should be a serviceable fifth fantasy starter for mixed leagues in matchups, but I’m not a huge fan.”  And that’s me quoting me!  2015 Projections:  14-8/3.91/1.29/121

60. Homer Bailey – As for Bailey, member how high I ranked him last year?  You don’t remember?  That’s great!  It’s for the better.  You’ll be easier to hypnotize with my mustache.  2015 Projections:  10-12/3.58/1.22/159

 
  1. bossmanjunior says:
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    Im sure someone might have mentioned this in the comments yesterday, but the Rays aren’t projected to be bad next year. In fact PECOTA has them down for tying the Red Sox for the division lead. Cust sayin.

    • Hawk says:
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      @bossmanjunior:

      PECOTA’s stoned. I mean, really stoned. Like Johnny Depp in Fear and Loathing in Las Vegas stone.

      • Cheese Eating Surrender Monkey says:
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        @Hawk: PECOTA is a computer, so there’s that.

    • Grey

      Grey says:
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      @bossmanjunior: Yeah, and the same Rays blog that talked about that yesterday also said three weeks prior that the Rays are in full rebuild mode.

  2. Cheese Eating Surrender Monkey says:
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    ballpark could be why on quintana vs smyly.

  3. Ante GALIC says:
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    Grey!

    Nice read. Have to be quick b/c I keep getting timed out by pop-ups.

    A. Do you know the difference between ’12 Gio and ’13 Gio? In ’13 he K’d EVERY SINGLE PITCHER HE FACED!!!! This added to his K total by exactly this number from ’12. If he could get back to ’13 Gio he would be a steal. Maybe someone can send him the fangraphs link?

    B. Every time I see Porcello I think ‘poor fellow’. Why is this?

    Cheers,
    Ante

    • Joey Jo Jo Jr Shabadoo says:
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      @Ante GALIC: sure, but don’t most any decent NL pitcher K most of the pitchers they face?

    • Grey

      Grey says:
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      @Ante GALIC: There shouldn’t be any pop-ups… If you tell me which ads are popping up, I’ll investigate and remove… A. Ha B. I think Mushaboom

  4. Nittanychris says:
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    Any concerns that Hutchison pitches half his games in the “Mr. Rogers It’s A Beautiful Day to Hit HRs Center?
    Any reason Quintana is perennially underrated by both experts and playas?
    Thanks.

    • Grey

      Grey says:
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      @Nittanychris: Where you’re getting Hutch, no concerns… Yeah, Quintana’s an odd one, always underrated, even when you know he’s being underrated, he still is

  5. Swfcdan says:
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    Pineda a decent keeper value at $5 then?

    • james says:
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      @Swfcdan:

      I would expect for him to cost in the 5-7 range, so a solid buy. He is no longer a spring chicken at 26, but not so old that even a break out is only worth a few years.

    • Grey

      Grey says:
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      @Swfcdan: I have him for $9, Rudy has him for $6

  6. How Long to Shun SPs Assessment Committee says:
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    We’re 60 deep and there’s still a gobdoodle of “he could pitch like a #2” wings still left. Is it time to change the old draft strategy rule of thumb of 2 pitchers for every 6 bats to maybe 2 for every 8? This glut is overwhelming even for the most ardent streamers.

    • Montezuma's Revenge... right now says:
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      @How Long to Shun SPs Assessment Committee: i’m liking all these committees, send STL one of them to make sure the police’s actions get reviewed, “they’s runnin’ crazy oveah her!” (overheard pretty much anywhere in STL)

      • How Long to Shun SPs Assessment Committee says:
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        @Montezuma’s Revenge… right now: I’ve been told I have commitment issues so I’m starting all these committees to prove I’m something other than what I am. Or something like that.

    • Hawk says:
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      @How Long to Shun SPs Assessment Committee:

      For those who ask “Is it really a glut? Do we need to adjust our expectations instead?”

      My 10 team 5×5 league has been running since 1997. Last year I protected Michael Wacha and Tony Cingrani. Drafted Tanaka and dealt for Felix Hernandez.

      With that as the start of my staff, I set the all time ERA mark at 2.95 for the season. The only team in 17 years to have a season ERA under 3.00. A good year from Felix, a good half from Tanaka, a good half from Wacha and one good start from Cingrani. The rest of they year? Waiver wire guys.

      It’s not that Kershaw, Felix, Scherzer etc…aren’t better than the #40, 50 best SP. They are. It’s just that the separation between Kershaw and, say, Alex Wood is much smaller than the separation between Mike Trout and, say, AJ Pollock.

      • Blue says:
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        @Hawk: Plus, streaming. Can’t do it with hitters, but you can with arms.

        Nothing like seeing Grey’s 40-60 SP to make me think, “Yep, no SP until the 8th round again this year.”

  7. Montezuma's Revenge... right now says:
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    great Porcello tier name, very explanatory. Also, that Dylan joke absolutely never gets old.

  8. Wilson says:
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    Wow! Still no Justin Verlander ?

    • dem ribbies says:
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      @Wilson: his life force is still being drained by the game of war spokesperson I believe…

      • K-DOGG says:
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        @dem ribbies:

        Verlander BKU >>>>> Verlander AKU. She is indeed Under The Skin of JV.

      • Wilson says:
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        @Grey: two CY award pitchers are becoming garbages now…

        • Grey

          Grey says:
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          Not becoming

          • Grey

            Grey says:
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            Are

            • Wilson says:
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              @Grey: Are, so are Lincecum and Dickey….

              • Grey

                Grey says:
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                Yup

  9. Fastpitch says:
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    After perusing the debate between GTS and Grey in yesterdays comments about when to draft pitchers, which I enjoyed immensely, I have the following questions pertaining to draft strategy for a 12 team league. Draft a hitter or pitcher in the 3rd round? Currently in the NFBC rankings the following players are available from 25 thru 36. Pitchers: MadBum, Strasburg, Max,Kluber,and Price. Hitters are Braun,Jup, Beltre,Harper,Puig,Vmart and Frazier. Let’s assume we have drafted two hitters in rounds 1 and 2 what’s the thought process? I realize league makeups make a difference. I’m in two deep positional, 5 oflders 10 pitchers weekly lineups. Sorry for the length (I say that to her all the time) but how much does weekly lineups and streaming availability affect the strategy?

    • Grey

      Grey says:
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      @Fastpitch: You need to draft an SP around pick 50 overall in a 12 team league

    • goodfold2 says:
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      @Fastpitch: GTS finally qualified just what spots he was fighting over, it’s the 20 picks between 30-50.

  10. JeF With 1 F says:
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    Good Shizz as always

  11. Dodger Rabbit says:
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    Assuming Jose Fernandez won’t make top 100 due to June arrival. But for those looking to stash him on the DL, what do you project for him from that point on?

    Great work, as always.

    • Fastpitch says:
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      @Dodger Rabbit: Great question. My experience over the years is that’s fine but depending how many DL spots you have and how healthy your team stays will determine if you can ride it out till July. It usually comes down to making a choice to waive one of your other guys or your stash. Tough call sometimes.

      • Dodger Rabbit says:
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        @Grey: Thanks! Looking forward to release of your IP projections; so we can calculate K/9. Think I recall those being posted sometime later (w/top 400?) …

        • Grey

          Grey says:
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          It comes with the top 400

  12. PK says:
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    “POS box”

    This is what my roommate called my car in college: ’94 Dodge Shadow. Oh yeah!

    • Grey

      Grey says:
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      @PK: Ha!

  13. Fungazi says:
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    Odorizzi is a streamer for home games but I wouldn’t want to draft him, from what I learned last year. The win/loss record was around the same and K/9 not much different, but the ratios are terrible on the road:

    Home: 99.2 IP – 2.62 ERA, 1.05 WHIP
    Away 68.1 IP – 6.32 ERA, 1.62 WHIP

    • Cram It says:
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      @Fungazi: I will be trying to draft him as my #5. I like him.

      • Fungazi says:
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        @Cram It: Seeing those splits, would you draft him expecting to start him every game?

        • Cram It says:
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          @Fungazi: I tend to not run my #5 out there every game anyway. So hold him back on road starts until he shows something, if those splits really scare you off. It was his first full season. I’ll give the kid some leash to get acclimated.

          • goodfold2 says:
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            @Cram It: yes, and he was MUCH better at home than he ever projected to be as well. I just benched him for road games last year (unless getting murdered in rate stats late in H2H week), and i owned him/streamed him many times in most leagues.

    • J-FOH says:
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      @Fungazi: Like Grey pointed out it could go either way and I agree with him on this one, if you go back and look a little closer at those road games, you’ll see where he went on a good long stretch, 5 road games over two months where he pitched strong. As opposed to the end of the year where he got shelled on the road to inflate those final numbers. Do you think he is going to give up 18 ER’s in 10.1innings in 3 of his last 6 games like he did at the end of the year? Yeah me neither, then he turned around and was lights out at home. I chalk that up to a kid being worn out on the road and we will most likely see a good drop in those numbers as he continues to develop as a major league arm. I’d take him all day with confidence, he falls into a could be meh or could be that guy that wins you your league.

      • Cram It says:
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        @J-FOH: Word. I’m getting him on my auction team. You can have him in RCL.

        • J-FOH says:
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          @Cram It: In RCL he might be my third and last starter drafted

      • MattTruss

        MattTruss says:
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        @J-FOH: I’m with on this one, I’m a fan of the kid.

        • J-FOH says:
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          @MattTruss: and the price should be good, unless you get in a league where people over draft trying to chase the next Kluber, it’s like the Trout effect, too many people reaching for offense and drafting projections and not the value

      • Fungazi says:
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        @J-FOH: I get it, he’s young and can turn it around in games that seemed difficult the first year. I just see 3 quality starts out of 14 on the road and want to pass because I’m likely to drop him anyways if he gets a couple of road starts in April and bombs.

        • J-FOH says:
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          @Fungazi: but a lot of those were outings where he got yanked before he got to 6 innings and would of qualified for a quality start. He actually got yanked a lot of times early as they were obviously keeping a tight lid on itch counts. He’s a prime candidate to take the next step if he can bring that walk rate down.

  14. Hawk says:
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    GREYYYY!!

    Y U NO LOVE MICHAEL WACHA????

    • Curtis says:
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      @Hawk: ADP 41st pitcher/170th off the board. If you’re following Grey’s rankings, he will not be on your team. Sporer was raving about him on TINSTAAPP though.

    • Grey

      Grey says:
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      @Hawk: Injury concern

      • Hawk says:
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        @Grey:

        Several guys you’ve already listed have injury concerns more severe than Wacha that don’t have the low ERA, High K potential Wacha has. Maybe he shows up at #61 but even if he does, I think you missed on this one. I guess we’ll see :)

        • Grey

          Grey says:
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          Cool

  15. Hoosier Daddy says:
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    Grey has a man maid to take care of the needs of the house while a slovenly Grey watches the boob tube all day?!?!?!?! Sounds familiar…….There are two questions we are all dying to ask:

    1. Does he look like Johnny Depp? And if so,
    2. Who’s eating Gilmer’s grapes?

  16. K-DOGG says:
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    GREY,

    I enjoy reading your posts. I know you alluded as to why you are picking the gangly one last for kickball, “Doug Fister had a 2.41 ERA last year, and he only struck out 98 batters in 164 IP. That’s egregious, Jackie Chiles.” But really? Not Top 60? Did I miss something?

    2014: 16-6, 2.41 ERA, 1.08 WHIP. I’ll trade strikeouts for wins, ERA, and WHIP in my 3rd starter. Twisted Fister has the best two-seamer in the game (hyperbole aside he threw it 51% of the time so he has to have a good one.) So his sub-90 velocity is mostly attributed to enhancing movement. And he’s proven clutch. Porcello over Fister? Shoot, Burnett over Fister?? This whole frigging tier over Fister???

    So why Grey? WHY??? Oh wait, I get it. You’re trying to throw us off the scent. Ah-HAAA…

    • Grey

      Grey says:
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      @K-DOGG: I wouldn’t trade Ks for Wins, ERA and WHIP

      • K-DOGG says:
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        @Grey:

        Fair enough. But Ricky’s career K/9 is 5.5, Dougie’s is 6.1. Still not thinking Fister should be slotted at least ahead of The Porcelain Kid?

        • Grey

          Grey says:
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          Nah

  17. Knuckleballer says:
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    Keeper question. It’s a 12 teams 6×6 league (including OBP and Holds). We keep 7 ( forever).

    Who do you keep?

    Goldy
    Brantley
    Machado
    Hanley
    Kemp
    Lucroy
    Madbum
    Kluber
    Harvey
    Gausman
    Salazar

    Thanks

    K

  18. The Balking Dead says:
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    In a 7×7 14 team keeper league, should I move James Shields for Alex Gordon? Shields is my SP4 going into the draft, and from your rankings, looks like there is more than enough depth at SP to just steam/get a lot of these guys late.

  19. So do these keepers make sense going by your rankings and how does this rotation look?
    14 team, mixed keeper, very deep league

    $8 Gray
    $8 Liriano
    $1 Hughes
    $1 Fiers
    $1 Keuchel

    Thank you for your awesome work!

      • Evan says:
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        @Grey:

        Would you keep a $1 Salazar or $1 Hutchinson or neither?

        Thanks again.

        • Grey

          Grey says:
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          Salazar

          • Evan says:
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            @Grey:

            Thanks. Keep Salazar over any of the others?

            • Grey

              Grey says:
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              Over which other ones?

              • Evan says:
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                @Grey:

                $8 Gray
                $8 Liriano
                $1 Hughes
                $1 Fiers
                $1 Keuchel

                • Grey

                  Grey says:
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                  What do I say about Salazar vs. Keuchel?

                  • Evan says:
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                    @Grey:

                    Keuchal goes. Thanks

                    • Grey

                      Grey says:
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                      No problem

  20. Tom says:
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    Thank you for all the fine work.

    I am picking up a new team in an established league where an owner dropped.
    5×5 10 team snake draft with 6 keepers from the following:
    C Dioner Navarro C | TOR
    C Travis d’Arnaud C | NYM
    1B Casey McGehee 1B,3B | SF
    2B Jose Altuve 2B | HOU
    3B Pedro Alvarez 3B | PIT
    3B Kyle Seager 3B | SEA
    SS Ian Desmond SS | WAS
    OF Norichika Aoki OF | SF
    OF Alejandro De Aza OF | BAL
    OF Curtis Granderson OF | NYM
    OF Adam Jones OF | BAL
    OF Jayson Werth OF | WAS
    U Chris Davis 1B,3B | BAL

    P Henderson Alvarez P | MIA
    P John Axford P | PIT
    P A.J. Burnett P | PIT
    P Gio Gonzalez P | WAS
    P Greg Holland P | KC
    P Francisco Rodriguez P | MIL
    P Tyson Ross P | SD
    P Koji Uehara P | BOS
    P Justin Verlander P | DET
    P Homer Bailey P | CIN
    P Andrew Cashner P | SD
    P Ubaldo Jimenez P | BAL

    I am thinking Altuve, Desmond, Jones, and Davis

    Need two more. Any thoughts?

    Thanks!

    • @Tom: I think Seager and TdA

      • Tom says:
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        @Doh! No!: Thanks

    • JeF With 1 F says:
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      @Tom: Id go seager/Ross

  21. e says:
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    Need some keeper help 5X5 plus OBP and K/BB, H2H league. Need to keep 3, lose the round they were drafted in.

    Jose Abreu rd 9
    Donaldson rd 22 (last round)
    Howie Kendrick rd 14
    Jacob Degrom rd 22 (last round)
    Tyson Ross rd 20

    I’m thinking Abreu and Donaldson are the obvious choice, need help with the 3rd.

    Thanks.

    • Cram It says:
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      @e: Not Kendrick. I’d lean DeGrom. Grey prob prefers Ross.

    • goodfold2 says:
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      @e: probably the higher ranked of ross/degrom, i’ve already forgotten which, but it’s in last 3 posts.

    • Tom says:
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      @e: I’d sat deGrom, no risk.

      • Tom says:
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        @Tom: say not sat

    • Hawk says:
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      @e:

      Abreu, Donaldson, Ross

    • JeF With 1 F says:
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      @e: DeGrom

    • Grey

      Grey says:
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      @e: Not Kendrick or deGrom… Ross or deGrom are a coin flip

  22. Scott says:
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    9-team NL-only dynasty league …
    Trade Polanco for Cashner and Seager?
    We keep 8 plus 2 prospects.
    My keepers right now: Stanton, Gomez, Pence, Kemp, Polanco, Wong, Zimmermann, Greinke. I’m also keeping Addison Russell.

    Thanks, guys.

    • Scott says:
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      @Scott: * Corey Seager (hence “NL-only” … but wanted to clarify).

    • Grey

      Grey says:
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      @Scott: Polanco side

  23. Blake says:
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    Grey,

    Will you have an exportable tier system ranking sheet this year? Since my league favors home runs – I would like to figure out a way to adjust your rankings based on my rules.

    • Grey

      Grey says:
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      @Blake: Someone else always makes that, so if someone does, yes

  24. Wake Up says:
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    But the adverb does have sex for money…willingly, happily, hopefully…

    • Grey

      Grey says:
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      @Wake Up: Is that Savage Garden?

      • Wake Up says:
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        @Grey: Manscaping is not an adverb…

        • Grey

          Grey says:
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          Sexy verb, agreed

    • J-FOH says:
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      @Wake Up: I prefer money for sex

      • Wake Up says:
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        @J-FOH: that’s the way you do it…and the chicks for free

        • J-FOH says:
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          @Wake Up: then they grow up to be dinner.

  25. Bill Lumbergh says:
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    Trade my Tulo for his Hanley in a 12 team dynasty league? Hanley projected for better 2015, but will most likely lose his SS elig after this season… Thx!

    • J-FOH says:
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      @Bill Lumbergh: Im not with Grey on this one. I would hold Tulo in Dynasty.

  26. Mikey says:
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    hey grey no ian kennedy in top 60?
    isnt he pretty safe for 190 ip 190 k, maybe even 200/200?
    era 3.5, whip 1.25?

    • Cram It says:
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      @Mikey: The last time he was under to 3.5/1.25 was 6 years ago. That’s not a safe bet.

      • Mikey says:
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        @Cram It: 2011 he was 2.82, 1.09. but ya after looking at it, not a safe bet. but i still think i would take him over a lot of these guys

        • Mikey says:
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          @Mikey: sorry 2.88/1.09

          • Cram It says:
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            @Mikey: Doesn’t matter. Not safe.

  27. dem ribbies says:
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    Good stuff as always!

    When you talk about salaries (e.g. Pineda for $9) is there a default league format that you’re using for your frame of reference?

    In the example of Pineda, would he still be a $9 in a 10 team, mixed league, shallow roster (5SP/3RP), 5×5, with a $200 budget?

    Just trying to figure out how to scale the recommendations to fit my league settings. Thanks Grey!!

    • Cram It says:
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      @dem ribbies: I think $9 is too high there, for you league set up.

    • Grey

      Grey says:
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      @dem ribbies: Thanks! In the opening paragraph of the post you are commenting on it has auction values for every conceivable league…

    • Grey

      Grey says:
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      @dem ribbies: Oh, and 200 into 260 is 75%, so that would be what I would use to convert $260 values

      • dem ribbies says:
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        @Grey: muchas gracias jefe!

        • Grey

          Grey says:
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          No problem

  28. Cram It says:
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    Can I expect a Jesse Hahn blurb on monday?

    • Grey

      Grey says:
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      Yup

      • Cram It says:
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        @Grey: Since you do a lot of auction leagues, have you ever, or witnessed someone, posting like a $5 value SP super early in the draft, in hopes of getting them for $1? Would no one touch them or was there bidding as usual?

        • Grey

          Grey says:
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          If the SP was real crap… Best way to get a cheap SP in an auction is later on… I could see some of these SPs in this 20 going for less than $5 later in drafts or above $10 earlier on

          • Cram It says:
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            @Grey: Good to know. Thank you.

            • Grey

              Grey says:
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              No problem

  29. goodfold2 says:
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    30 man super deep league, about to enter bidding on free agent player period. Comish has broken up all the players into 4 groups, each biddable for a week. All players not on rookie contracts/franchised (for extra 6 million per year over their original contracts from 2 years ago, prices set up by fantrax at that time)/or tagged are the current free agent crop. Due to matching bids on Erv Sant and Werth (8.77 mil 1 year and 12 mil each for 2 years, and Werth’s just before shoulder surgery), I have 9.984 mil left over to fill these roster spots: 1 CI/ 1 util/ 1 SP (this is for a 6th SP spot, my 5 already pretty good)/ 4 RP/ 1 backup C (likely Recker, as i have D’Arnaud)/ 2 more BN guys (likely hitters). Any contract under 1 million can be cut with no penalty. If Werth was on DL i’d get back that 12 million but he’s not (he’s in jail currently). I used both Razz player rater/ B. Forecaster to rank guys after grouping them into roles. It’s very likely i won’t afford any hitting starter, some teams have shitty rosters but over 40 million to spend (and based on past, i.e. k.johnson last year getting 17 million cough cough), and some really will; thus my real play here is to get best backups or guys who could do the most if they luck into roles. OPS league as well, and i am homer/OPS weak, not steals weak. Tell me if these ranks look right. (I know your rankings, but this is in a league where at bats trump upside for a lot of these spots)

    1. CI starters/righty side platooners – Plouffe/Freese/Morrison/Solarte/G.Jones/I.Davis/Loney/Valbuena/McGehee/Swisher/Callaspo/Amarista
    2. CI backups/lefty side – Reynolds/Smoak/Turner/Aviles/Nava/Dominguez/Beckham/Baker/S-Rod/E.Nunez/E.Escobar/Ishikawa
    3. no team/minors – J.Francisco (should he be bumped up somewhere, if he gets job some homers will come)

    • Grey

      Grey says:
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      I’d go with Smoak first on 2 if you had a starter at 1, which the first guys are

      • goodfold2 says:
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        @Grey: they’re tiered more like that from roles over skills (but within own tier by skills/projected OPS). so you are saying Smoak is better than his tier, but how high in starter tier would he be? Smoak’s bidding period is actually in first week (so right now), along with I.Davis/Valbuena/Callaspo amoung the starters. i’ll bid on which are better (and slightly more money as list goes from worst to best, but also only try to spend bigger on one guy). Smoak might be easily the cheapest, so that’s good.

        • goodfold2 says:
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          @goodfold2: oh i get it, he’s only best of non-starters, not as good as the starters (although i’ll still bid more to secure him than say amarista)

        • Grey

          Grey says:
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          Smoak is not a starter, I’m saying if you have a starter already, then I would be less concerned about a platoon guy and would prefer a guy like Smoak with some upside but no discernible job yet

          • goodfold2 says:
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            @Grey: thanks, hopefully i walk out of this with 1 CI starter, 1 CI backup with upside, 1 OF starter at util (have to waiver another when werth’s finally DL’d), and recker for handcuff, unless say Hundley is really cheap, or no worse than 2 CI backups with upside, like mini donkey as 2nd one.

            • Grey

              Grey says:
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              No problem, that would be my goal…

            • goodfold2 says:
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              @goodfold2: i forgot, i do already have l.jimenez (awful L only 1B at MIL) at league minimum rookie deal, so i have some awful depth; dude is also 9 at bats away from being non-minorable. I guess if i see in first session or 2 that better upside backups are going for really cheap i could just drop him.

              • Grey

                Grey says:
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                Yeah, he’s garbage

  30. J-FOH says:
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    So Wacha Wacha what’ca want Wacha want
    It get so funny with the money that you want
    I said where’d you get your information from huh?
    You think that ESPN can front when your pick comes

    Yeah, I dont like him either

    • Grey

      Grey says:
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      Nice!

      • J-FOH says:
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        @Grey: thank you. It was time to break out a little old school me.

        • Grey

          Grey says:
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          Love it!

          • J-FOH says:
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            @Grey: I loved old school me too because he was less fat

            • Grey

              Grey says:
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              I loved old school me because he was more stoned

              • Sky

                Sky says:
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                key word there being ‘more’

                • Grey

                  Grey says:
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                  It’s un-American to want less. Combining two threads from two posts!

                  • Sky

                    Sky says:
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                    Postmanteau!

                    • Grey

                      Grey says:
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                      HA

                    • J-FOH says:
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                      @Sky: or portmanpost?

                    • Sky

                      Sky says:
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                      Isn’t that every blog about Natalie?

                    • Grey

                      Grey says:
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                      She’s the meaning and facts of life

                    • Sky

                      Sky says:
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                      I would’ve gotten you the collectors edition of Facts of Life if you didn’t already have it signed by every cast member at this point.

                    • Grey

                      Grey says:
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                      Can we be honest? I forged all their names, I was too bashful to ask them!

                    • Sky

                      Sky says:
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                      This will stay between just you, me, and the internet. I promise

                    • Grey

                      Grey says:
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                      Thank you!

                  • J-FOH says:
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                    @Grey: you never really met Kim fields?

                    • Grey

                      Grey says:
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                      Sadly, no

  31. nick the dick says:
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    G!! You had the ill TC poker face on yesterday!

  32. Big D says:
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    AL-only keeper league, I can keep Hutchison or Odorizzi at round 10. Next year they would be round 8. Would you still prefer Hutchison even in a keeper league? Is he even a good value at rd 10 in AL-only anyways?

    Thanks!

    • Grey

      Grey says:
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      Hutch, yes

  33. Clint says:
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    Wow. No Holland, Gausman, or Minor yet? I thought you’d have them as big time bouncebacks/breakout-studs-in-disguise in the ranklings, Grey?

    • Grey

      Grey says:
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      I do like Holland’s mustache

      • PK says:
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        @Grey: /snorting laugh

  34. goodfold2 says:
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    holy crap, anybody notice that ATL is also punting RP this year other than kimbrel? this list is clearly worse than they were last year and last few years
    grilli (could be ok, could break down yet again)/j.johnson/russell/vizcaino/avilan/outman!

    • Grey

      Grey says:
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      Their team’s gonna be a mess

  35. jonboy says:
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    14 team,standard roto keeper(4 year)
    Mesoraco
    Rizzo
    Carpenter
    Arenado
    Desmond
    Wong
    Frazier
    Marte
    Polanco
    Harvey
    Tanaka
    What 7 do you keep? Thanks.

    • Grey

      Grey says:
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      Not Devin, Tanaka, Harvey, Carpenter

  36. Sky

    Sky says:
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    Blueberry waffling >>>>>>>>>> Blue waffling

    • Grey

      Grey says:
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      Yum!

  37. booya says:
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    Here are my keepers for my 12 team H2H 6×6 w/ OPS & QS

    C Mesoraco
    1B Votto (ugh)
    2B Wong
    3B Beltre
    OF J Up
    OF Bruce

    SP- Cobb, Latos, Stroman, CMart, Heaney

    In this league we only start 3 OF & 1 Util. There’s usually pretty decent bats available on the wire all year.

    At pick 4 I’m going to have a choice between Bautista and King Felix. Am I crazy for wanting to take Felix there? Odds are I wouldn’t be able to keep either of them anyway unless they were to have a down pretty year…

    Thanks for any input guys

    • Cram It says:
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      @booya: Not crazy, but I’d still take Bautista there.

    • Grey

      Grey says:
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      Bautista have 1B eligibility in your league?

      • booya says:
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        @Grey: Yes he does. I’m guessing that means you’d want him? If he didn’t would you take Felix?

        • Grey

          Grey says:
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          Yes, Bautista

  38. Jackie Treehorn says:
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    I know you have M. Harvey ranked higher, but with the TJ rehab concerns, would you consider keeping M. Pineda instead – in Rd. 23?

    • Grey

      Grey says:
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      Nah

  39. Duda Want to Build a Snowman? says:
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    Curious where Paxton pops up…

    • Grey

      Grey says:
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      Me too!

  40. tomas says:
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    Thanks Grey!
    in a standard 5×5 keeper, which side?
    Desmond (15) or Gattis (7)& J Zimmermann (15)

    • Grey

      Grey says:
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      Desmond

  41. UL's Toothpick says:
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    Good Stuff Grey !!!

    • Grey

      Grey says:
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      Thanks!

  42. Orval Overall says:
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    Here are the top 60 SP’s from one of those other websites..Enjoy!

    1 Clayton Kershaw LAD
    2 Felix Hernandez SEA
    3 Chris Sale CHW
    4 David Price DET
    5 Max Scherzer WAS
    6 Corey Kluber CLE
    7 Johnny Cueto CIN
    8 Stephen Strasburg WAS
    9 Madison Bumgarner SF
    10 Yu Darvish TEX
    11 Adam Wainwright STL
    12 Jon Lester CHC
    13 Zack Greinke LAD
    14 Cole Hamels PHI
    15 Matt Harvey NYM
    16 Jordan Zimmermann WAS
    17 Jeff Samardzija CHW
    18 Julio Teheran ATL
    19 Jake Arrieta CHC
    20 Alex Wood ATL
    21 Carlos Carrasco CLE
    22 James Shields KC
    23 Sonny Gray OAK
    24 Cliff Lee PHI
    25 Tyson Ross SD
    26 Jacob deGrom NYM
    27 Alex Cobb TB
    28 Hisashi Iwakuma SEA
    29 Phil Hughes MIN
    30 Hyun-Jin Ryu LAD
    31 Gerrit Cole PIT
    32 Collin McHugh HOU
    33 Matt Shoemaker LAA
    34 Mike Fiers MIL
    35 Masahiro Tanaka NYY
    36 Garrett Richards LAA
    37 Jered Weaver LAA
    38 Gio Gonzalez WAS
    39 Lance Lynn STL
    40 Marcus Stroman TOR
    41 Michael Wacha STL
    42 Doug Fister WAS
    43 Scott Kazmir OAK
    44 Michael Pineda NYY
    45 Anibal Sanchez DET
    46 Tanner Roark WAS
    47 Jose Quintana CHW
    48 Dallas Keuchel HOU
    49 Chris Archer TB
    50 Zack Wheeler NYM
    51 Yordano Ventura KC
    52 Justin Verlander DET
    53 Andrew Cashner SD
    54 Ian Kennedy SD
    55 Mike Minor ATL
    56 Francisco Liriano PIT
    57 Jose Fernandez MIA
    58 Mat Latos MIA
    59 James Paxton SEA
    60 Drew Smyly TB

    • Grey

      Grey says:
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      Don’t really need that

      • Cheese Eating Surrender Monkey says:
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        @Grey: looks like we won’t be getting wood as much as we thought we would (that’s what she said, as she frowned); nor degrom or cliff lee. Anybody at 15 overall coming off TJ and hasn’t even played yet (Harvey) is batshit crazy.

        • Grey

          Grey says:
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          Yup

  43. Wake Up says:
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    Please,please give me this reminder sometime…if you’re gonna go home with a Jerry Springer episode…always,always go to HER place. She did make crazy good huevos rancheros though, I have to say. Crazy,Crazy good. I might move. But, crazy,crazy,crazy good eggs…

    If you’re wondering what this has to do with fantasy baseball, you’re doing it wrong…

    • Grey

      Grey says:
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      Ha…I’ve the rancheros had some kind of green salsa, she knew what she was doing

  44. Schwab says:
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    Keeper forever league 8 teams H2H points scoring.
    Would you trade Hosmer, Paxton, Sano for Goldy?
    Thanks

    • Grey

      Grey says:
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      Yes

  45. nick the dick says:
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    **Magoo plug those ears**

    Duuude, let me preface by saying I guess I didn’t really grasp the whole scope of Last Chance Kitchen, it’s so deep in the competition I figured it was just some side note to the actual show. Product of me being out of the loop for the last few seasons I guess. It all happened so fast. All of a sudden, hey Doug and George are here. Tom takes a taste of two undisclosed dishes and BAM, Douggie get back in there!! My boy!! As if I couldn’t be any more of a pig in shit, he smokes the quickfire! Then wins the elimination challenge! 4 hour brisket like a baller! And Melissa eliminated, albeit with some tasty looking dishes the past couple episodes, and all is right with the world. Gregory, Mei and Doug in the triple threat match. I’d have it no other way. Oh it’s on like Sean John now my friend. Buckle up Gregory, gonna be a rough ride!

    • Grey

      Grey says:
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      We were happy to have a fellow Portland chef return but that will only make it more bittersweet when Gregory has to eliminate him. Real men don’t shorten Gregory!

      • nick the dick says:
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        @Grey: Ha well I was bitterbitter about him being gone before so i’ll take bittersweet. I thought real men always shorten their name. Pretentious ass Gregory, suprised he doesnt use his middle name too. But i’m not being dragged into your delusions, Doug is the champ. You know it and I know it. I just really wanna show it. It’s Douggie and you know it, clap your hands!

        • Grey

          Grey says:
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          Dougie’s a cute little beard man, I’m surprised he doesn’t use an Easy Bake Oven!

          • nick the dick says:
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            @Grey: Hey now!! His Easy Bake Texas Red is world class!

            • Grey

              Grey says:
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              I think he’s better than Melissa, I have no doubt about that, but I think whatever Dougie would’ve cooked, he would’ve moved on (and won the quickfire)… I can’t imagine they’d go through all that Last Chance nonsense and not keep him around for one extra show…

              • nick the dick says:
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                @Grey: True. But its like a backdoor win from a closer, take what you can get even if it isn’t fully deserved. You do realize the only thing ladies love more than mustaches are beards right?

                • Grey

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                  Ha, nice analogy…. That is true, and it would be a vulture win, which I still don’t think he gets… They’ve had enough white guy winners, Gregory or Mei is gonna win…

                  • nick the dick says:
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                    @Grey: Ha, if their race will win the race then it’s gonna be Mei. Greggy is basically just another white guy too…only took us 10 episodes to learn how to spell Mae, I mean May, I mean MEI!!

                    • Grey

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                      Ha! I know, right? I still go between all three of her spellings… I don’t agree on Greggy being a white guy, I mean, I do agree… But I don’t think that factors into Bravo/Top Chef’s decision… They just can’t give it to a white guy, especially when the one left hasn’t blown everyone away like a Voltaggio, but had to fight back in… At least I think that’s how they’re thinking…

    • booya says:
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      @nick the dick: Just give the title to Mei now

  46. r aftman says:
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    Which sidea in a Dynasty H2H pts league…Cobb/Bogarts/Degrom or Darvish/Odorizzi/Correa?

    • Grey

      Grey says:
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      Cobb

  47. Theo says:
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    Grey! You’re the man for answering all these questions from us wanna-be’s… Speaking of which:

    Pretty shallow dynasty league, OPS instead of AVG and I was offered Cano for Tulo… Should I take it or stick with Cano?

    • Grey

      Grey says:
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      Hold

  48. Theo says:
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    *Or stick with Tulo?

    • Grey

      Grey says:
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      Sorry, Cano then

  49. JJ says:
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    Hey Grey,
    I need to narrow this group down to 10 in my 12 team H2H 5X5 Keeper league(we keep 10)
    Standard Yahoo scoring
    C-C.SANTANA
    1B-L.DUDA
    2B-D.PEDROIA
    3B-T.FRAZIER
    SS-H.RAMIREZ
    OF-M.KEMP
    OF-K.CALHOUN
    OF-D.SANTANA
    UTIL-E.HOSMER, AL.RAMIREZ

    SP-M.BUMGARNER
    SP-C.KLUBER
    SP-C.HAMELS
    RP-A.CHAPMAN
    RP-D.STOREN
    P-J.FERNANDEZ
    P-G.COLE
    P-J.SAMARDZIJA

    As you can see I am big time pitcher heavy. But I have gone against the grain and won with pitching 3 years in a row now.
    What do you think?
    Thanks
    JJ

    • Grey

      Grey says:
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      C-C.SANTANA
      2B-D.PEDROIA
      3B-T.FRAZIER
      SS-H.RAMIREZ
      OF-M.KEMP
      OF-K.CALHOUN
      OF-D.SANTANA
      SP-M.BUMGARNER
      SP-C.KLUBER
      Aroldis

      • JJ says:
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        @Grey:
        Wow Im surprised you’d let all that great pitching go
        A manager in my league wants Chapman and or Santana
        He is offering a combo of Kipnis, Machado, Myers. Would you pull the trigger on that? Would get my team younger.

        • Grey

          Grey says:
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          Why don’t you trade guys I didn’t say to keep?

          • JJ says:
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            @Grey:
            Ive been trying. No takers so far.

            • Grey

              Grey says:
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              Try harder!

  50. Det. John Kimble says:
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    Hey Grey,

    Yahoo came out with their auction suggested values today. I’ve noticed my league mates usually don’t stray far from them. They have Soler at $14 and Tomas at $3. Is there really enough difference between the two to take Soler over Tomas at that price, even though I do prefer Soler?

    • Grey

      Grey says:
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      I’d take Yasmany there

  51. Matt says:
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    In dynasty, benoit and boni enough in return for cliff lee? lost doolittle and traded cishek so now only koji at saves

    • Grey

      Grey says:
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      Nope

  52. Guppy says:
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    Grey love your ranking, got a few steals last year that helped me win two titles. I am in a head to head points league.It is a for ever keeper with salary renewal every four years

    What size of the deal would you take.

    Lynn/K.Davis/K.Gibson/Andrus/Hunter Doizer for Zimmerman/Carrasco/Latos

    • Grey

      Grey says:
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      Carrasco

  53. Kody says:
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    Can only keep one with whats left of my keeper budget…
    Gattis
    Hosmer(Rizzo is my starter)
    Paxton

    • Grey

      Grey says:
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      Paxton

  54. MB says:
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    Is it safe to assume nathan and soria get the majority of detroit saves in 2015?

    • Grey

      Grey says:
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      Yup

  55. Terrence Mann says:
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    Dammit, Grey. I know your hate for early drafts but these guys are like Vegas poker sharks. I lucked out (imo) to get the real Pacman at 1.7 and am seriously contemplating Rendon at 2.6. Jeebus. I’m gonna end up with Loney as my CI. Early drafts have be worse for your health than smoking and dopewhores. Somebody needs to do a study.

    • Grey

      Grey says:
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      Ha!

  56. Right said Manfred says:
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    12 tm NL only. We can keep 15 major leaguers and 3 prospects $280 for 25 players
    Guys locked in:
    C-Rosario $10 1B Au-Shizz $20, CI Freeman $20, 3B Carpenter $7 2B Gennett $5
    OF – Hamilton $10, Polanco $10, D Peralta $6
    SP – Bumgarner $15, Wainwright $19, Jose Fernandez $15 (keeping for future yrs), Wheeler $10
    RP – Kenley $15, Melancon $12

    That’s 14 guys. For prospects I’ve got Robert Stephenson, Raimel Tapia as the only serious options.

    Been offered Rendon $10 and Dickerson $21 for Bumgarner, Wainwright, Carpenter, Dlson Herrera $6 and a first round pick in the prospect draft (the Kris Bryant’s of the world are long gone).

    Obviously I’m going to do the deal, but we’re working at finalizing the smaller details of the trade which leads me to ask a few questions.

    How much value does a $3 Brandon Crawford have for me, considering my auction’s going to have Tulo, Kang and Escobar as the only viable SS at auction? Wasn’t going to keep him, but I shockingly just saw he had a $10 value on your site’s NL only board.

    Dilson Herrera (NYM 2Bman) do anything for you going forward?
    Any of these guys worth considering keeping?
    Darren Ruf $8, Quackenbush $6, T Wood $2 Minor $16?

    Thanks for the year round advice my over the internet friend!

    • Grey

      Grey says:
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      That’s about what Crawford is worth $10 in NL-Only because there is few SS…. None of those guys are worth anything

  57. Hometown Hero says:
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    12 team al only keeper league. What side would you want? Valbuena $1 and D. Santana $10 for Odor $1 and Shoemaker $10. Thanks!

    • Grey

      Grey says:
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      Santana

      • Hometown Hero says:
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        @Grey: what if it were D Santana $10, Valbuena $1 for Gattis $13 and Shoemaker $10. Thanks again!!

        • Grey

          Grey says:
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          Gattis side

  58. TobiasFunkeAnalRapist says:
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    “It’s an allusion Michael, a trick is something a whore does for money.”

    • Grey

      Grey says:
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      Ha!

  59. booya says:
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    Which side would you want in a 12 team H2H Keeper?

    Stroman & CMart or Cespedes?

    Thinking Cespedes..

    • Grey

      Grey says:
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      Cespedes

  60. J-FOH says:
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    Should we call magoo’s post On the Greydar? Asking for a friend. I’m kidding. I kid I kid. Strangely there was no gareth sighting in his post. I hope he didn’t get beat with a selfie stick. *searches net * nope, no stories of man getting beat with a selfie stick.

    • Grey

      Grey says:
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      He’s in Disney, scoping out selfie sticks

      • J-FOH says:
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        @Grey: well when you put it that way *shudders*

        • Grey

          Grey says:
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          Hehe

  61. goodfold2 says:
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    same deep 30 team OPS dynasty league, these rankings looking about right? Need OPS/homer guys over steals.
    1. starters/righty side platooners: dom brown/rasmus/aoki/peralta/de aza/s.smith/upton (bj)/lagares/joyce/snider/gomes/gose/coghlan/sizemore/maybin/lambo
    2. backups/lefty siders: raj/stubbs/victorino/ruggiano/d.murphy/presley/suzuki/dyson/parra/hart/ethier/pillar/barnes/inciarte/blanco/gentry/d.young/shaefer (MIN)/heisey/bourjos/cowgill/nieuwenhuis
    3. minors/teamless: lough/nava/viciedo/grossman/j.jones/tabata

    • Grey

      Grey says:
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      Looks about right

  62. Joey Jo Jo Jr Shabadoo says:
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    yahoo opened up, got my first reupped team open. 20 team dynasty with lots of extra stat categories. h2h. walks/doubles/triples/put outs/outfield assists/double plays/intentional walks/assists/grand slams, for pitchers complete games/shutouts/double plays/holds/relief wins/ k per 9/ QS/ pickoffs/ relief appearances. start 1 of each position with 1 util, with 5 SP, 7 RP per day. I have the 18th draft slot, and this is NOT a snake draft. I can keep, at most 25 of these. 5 NA slots, but we can’t slot them in till after the draft. At all times i have to have at least 9 TEX players.
    C – zunino
    1B – kennys/fielder
    2B – gyorko
    SS – andrus
    3B – beltre
    LF – choo/ozuna/pierce/pompey/alex guerrero
    CF – leonys/cain sugar/ozuna/
    RF – stanton/rios/choo/cain sugar
    SP – darvish/d.holland/liriano/hammel/quintana/hahn/house
    RP – K-Rob/melancon/giles/soria/cotts/walden
    NA possibles: profar/gallo/n.williams/urias/a.bradley/c.frazier
    obvious drops are House/Cotts (shittier bullpen spot at MIL)/A.Guerrero/Hammel. Gotta drop at least 4 more. Guessing they are N.Williams/Soria/Cain Sugar and 1 other out of walden/kennys/pierce/pompey? RP are clearly the easiest thing to replace later, but Walden/Soria are looking like pretty top shelf holds guys, and I probably need less than 7 OF guys, currently at 7 without cain sugar and a.guerrero.

    • Joey Jo Jo Jr Shabadoo says:
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      @Joey Jo Jo Jr Shabadoo: actually i miscounted, i have to drop 2 out of pierce/walden/kennys/pompey, or possibly 1 and somebody else.

    • Grey

      Grey says:
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      Those three and Guerrero

      • Joey Jo Jo Jr Shabadoo says:
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        @Grey: which 2 out of walden/kennys/pompey/pierce gets dropped? (or could be other people 2). Right now i’m actively trying to trade pierce and rios for 1 better player (there are teams that have 1 great OF but almost no depth).

        • Grey

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          Pierce, Pomepy

          • Joey Jo Jo Jr Shabadoo says:
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            @Grey: i’m looking at some teams that seriously only have like 15-17 keeper level players, they’d be much better off if i do some 2 or 3 players for 1 trades with them. Rios/Pierce both big upgrades for some teams, hopefully i can just pry 1 great player off somebody, or maybe somebody like Wil Myers for those 2?

            • Grey

              Grey says:
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              Sure, try it

  63. Cheese Eating Surrender Monkey says:
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    16 team H2H with OPS/Hits/holds/QS. start 1 of each position, with 3 OF and 2 utils. 2 SP, 1 RP, 5 P and 5 BN spots. 6 keepers, no cost. Alreadying keeping Goldy/Arenado/Upton/Cobb. Choices for remaining spots are
    1B – Kennys
    2B – kinsler/walker
    OF – soler/a.gordon/ozuna/revere
    SP – carrasco/wacha/shoemaker
    RP – feliz/walden
    soler/ozuna maybe?

    • Grey

      Grey says:
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      Soler, Ozuna

      • Cheese Eating Surrender Monkey says:
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        @Grey: man, leagues are flooding back in, like 7 reups in last 12 hours or so.

        • Grey

          Grey says:
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          Nice

  64. Cheese Eating Surrender Monkey says:
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    12 team h2h with OPS/slugging/K’s/BB’s added to 5X5 for hitters and holds/QS/OBPA/homers allowed for pitchers. 1 at each position on offense with 1 util and 5 SP, 3 RP, 2 P per day. 11 BN (30 man active rosters)
    C -Mesoraco
    1B – E5/Morneau/carter
    2B – pedroia/alcantara
    SS – reyes
    3B – aramis
    LF – upton/carter/k.davis
    CF – alcantara/cain sugar
    RF -polanco/cain sugar/soler/calhoun
    SP – kluber/cashner/carrasco/richards/garza/kazmir/paxton/holland/hutchinson/bauer/carmart/
    heaney
    RP -perkins/F-Rod/cecil/rodney/j.smith/

    1. i got a guy who likes reyes enough to give me segura and arrieta, but i’m guessing i’d rather up my 3B or CF, right? So try to get Segura and 1 of mookie/arenado/dickerson/joc pederson (i might have to add somebody to some of those)
    2. or should i just take the segura and arrieta and go about moving morneau (and others maybe) to up my 3B/CF?

    • Grey

      Grey says:
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      1. Sure, Arenado 2. If you can’t get Arenado

      • Cheese Eating Surrender Monkey says:
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        @Grey: is eaton that big of an improvement over my CF’s? he’s willing to move eaton, maybe with segura and arrieta (and if eaton’s better i could possibly give cain sugar or alcantara back in that)

        • Grey

          Grey says:
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          Nope

  65. Aubrey Plaza's Pillow says:
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    keeper time, tale of two leagues.
    1. roto, whole bunch of extra categories, XBH/OPS/double plays/net steals instead of steals/k’s for hitters/ double plays for pitchers/ QS/net saves/holds/ K to BB. Start 5 OF, 2 extra IF, 3 or 4 keepers i’m waiting to find out, but i’m supposing the first three are trout/mccutchen/altuve, with the possible 4th coming from these: Cobb/Kluber/Dickerson/Soler/Frazier/Harper?
    2. h2h, same categories, 4 keepers. Rizzo/Upton and which 2 out of Donaldson/Dickerson/Cargo 1/Soler/F-Her/Kluber/Cobb?

    • Aubrey Plaza's Pillow says:
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      @Aubrey Plaza’s Pillow: oh yeah, these are both 12 team leagues, not deep ones.

  66. Aubrey Plaza's Pillow says:
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    wonder if tehol’s already got a carroll lynch mob ready, i’d join if i lived up in northwest corner.

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