All the final 2019 fantasy baseball rankings for hitters are done.  For those that skipped today’s title, this starts the top 20 starters for 2019 fantasy baseball.  This is NOT for 2020 (caps for those who can’t read titles; supposedly it’s easier to read caps, I have my doubts). This is a recap. Will these affect next year’s rankings?  Sure.  But not entirely.  Like when you had a knee replacement, this is a recap! To recapitulate the recap, these rankings are from our Fantasy Baseball Player Rater.  We’re (me’re) using it to fairly gauge our (my) preseason rankings.  Anyway, here’s the top 20 starters for 2019 fantasy baseball and how they compare to where I originally ranked them:

1. Justin Verlander – You know Verlander, so a word about the top 20 starters. I wrote a sleeper post about Bieber, Ed-Rod and didn’t write a sleeper on Castillo, but said I should’ve wrote a sleeper post about him in my rankings. I told you to draft Strasburg, Flaherty, Ryu, Buehler, Corbin, Clevinger and Soroka. So, you can pretend like there was no pitching and like it was a crapshoot and like you had to draft pitching high, but of the 20 starters, I endorsed ten. Then, there were six more (Morton, Greinke, Kershaw, Giolito, Lynn, Gray) who I didn’t like but were completely available in drafts if you wanted them. 16 out of the top 20 starters — you could’ve drafted without taking a starter in the 1st 35 or so picks. If you went with the German Marquez/Matz pairing, shizz happens. I’m sympathetic, I did that myself in a few leagues. It doesn’t mean you were better off if you went Chris Sale or Blake Snell or Kluber or Nola or Bauer or dozens of other pitchers who were drafted high and didn’t do well. The people who drafted them were just as screwed. So, why bother drafting starters high when your 50/50 odds are the same as anyone else’s? Not to answer, but to knowingly nod your head. As for Verlander, just wanted to point out I almost perfectly nailed his K/9, which is honestly the only thing under anyone’s control, and you wonder why I say pitching is a crapshoot. Preseason Rank #4, 2019 Projections: 16-8/2.88/0.97/276 in 207 IP, Final Numbers: 21-6/2.58/0.80/300 in 223 IP

2. Gerrit Cole – *turns over a bottle of malt liquor and pours out a never-ending stream* That’s not a river in a homeless person’s feng shui garden; that’s pouring one out for Ray Searage’s wisdom that pitchers should pitch to contact. Someone should edit a horror film and every time a cat jumps out of a closet, replace it with Gerrit Cole striking out someone, then send that film to Searage. The Pirates traded Cole, and he was under control for another two years! It’s hard to make up (for) that stupidity. Preseason Rank #6, 2019 Projections: 16-7/2.81/1.02/254 in 204 IP, Final Numbers: 20-5/2.50/0.89/326 in 212 1/3 IP

3. Stephen Strasburg – Didn’t end up owning Strasburg this year in any leagues, but I did want to own him, which is essentially the same only with way more agita. Finally, we got that full season from him, and I wonder if there’s any way to possibly predict that. Seriously, is there any way to tell Strasburg was about to throw his 1st season of 200 IP since 2014? No? Then how the hell can you draft starters early? Preseason Rank #14, 2019 Projections: 15-6/3.08/1.09/186 in 164 IP, Final Numbers: 18-6/3.32/1.15/251 in 209 IP

4. Jacob deGrom – He now has 21 wins in two of the best back-to-back seasons in history. Denny McClain laughs at that while he transports drugs across state lines. What’s that, deGrom’s on his way to becoming the first starter in the Hall of Fame with under 100 wins? You said it, Cousin Sweatpants. Preseason Rank #2, 2019 Projections: 16-6/2.66/0.95/264 in 218 IP, Final Numbers: 11-8/2.43/0.97/255 in 204 IP

5. Zack Greinke – Have been out on Greinke for a while now. His under-9 K/9 dampers my whistle making it sound more like a raspberry. Preseason Rank #20, 2019 Projections: 10-11/3.58/1.12/194 in 206 IP, Final Numbers: 18-5/2.93/0.98/187 in 208 2/3 IP

6. Shane Bieber – Already told you in my Verlander blurb that I wrote a Bieber sleeper, and everything I was jazz-handsy about in that sleeper post came true. He strikes out guys and doesn’t walk them. It’s a pretty simple recipe for success. Put it in the Are-A-Koufax Cookbook. Preseason Rank #29, 2019 Projections: 13-7/3.45/1.12/154 in 156 IP, Final Numbers: 15-8/3.28/1.05/259 in 214 1/3 IP

7. Charlie Morton – If the Pirates didn’t ever trade anyone, they’d be the best team ever, especially if Bonds could still hit at 55 years of age. By the way, the Astros are doling out starters to other teams now so they have someone to compete against. Preseason Rank #31, 2019 Projections: 9-6/3.54/1.18/159 in 144 IP, Final Numbers: 16-6/3.05/1.08/240 in 194 2/3 IP

8. Jack Flaherty – It’s been long-documented how much Donkey Teeth nailed the Flaherty buy low on July 1st, and how great Flaherty was in the 2nd half. Can we turn our attention back to me now please? Thank you! In the preseason, I ranked him 55 overall when his ADP was about ten spots later, and ‘perts were regularly ranking him outside the top 100. I loved Flaherty in March. Of course, took until July for it to make sense. Preseason Rank #13, 2019 Projections: 14-7/3.17/1.11/215 in 191 IP, Final Numbers: 11-8/2.75/0.97/231 in 196 1/3 IP

9. Hyun-Jin Ryu – Usually I go Saberhagenmetrics with my pitchers. Liking them one year, then disliking them the next, because, if they’re good, they usually throw too many innings, which is a great segue for Ryu! I’ve liked Ryu every year for the last five years, because he always had a great ERA, but he never threw too many innings. Wait, he just threw how many innings? *places hand over eyes and disapprovingly shakes head* I’m…without words. Preseason Rank #44, 2019 Projections: 9-4/2.98/1.08/122 in 131 IP, Final Numbers: 14-5/2.32/1.01/163 in 182 2/3 IP

10. Clayton Kershaw – Speaking of innings, Kershaw just threw the most innings in a season since 2015. His back magically held up or more proof that chiropractors’ magic is real. (I’m just playin’, Mom, I know you’re a real doctor!) Preseason Rank #36, 2019 Projections: 10-4/3.10/1.07/126 in 131 IP, Final Numbers: 16-5/3.03/1.04/189 in 178 1/3 IP

11. Max Scherzer – Either a sign of how awful starters are or how great Scherzer is (prolly both), he’s the 11th best starter this year without really anything of note in the 2nd half. By the way, I can’t wait (can completely wait) for all the hot takes about how Scherzer is a great bargain as the third pitcher off the board in 2020. Preseason Rank #1, 2019 Projections: 17-6/2.58/.93/285 in 212 IP, Final Numbers: 11-7/2.92/1.03/243 in 172 1/3 IP

12. Walker Buehler – Here’s a funny one for all you people into non-funny things that are preceded with “here’s a funny one.” Buehler did what he was expected to do, and feels like he’s still on the precipice of being even greater, but it feels like the heat is off of him now, so he’s going to break out in 2020 just as people pass him by for all the new shiny toys of Bieber and Clevinger. Preseason Rank #10, 2019 Projections: 15-6/2.82/0.98/198 in 174 IP, Final Numbers: 14-4/3.26/1.04/215 in 182 1/3 IP

13. Lucas Giolito – Great example of why we should never stop believing in talented young pitchers just because they haven’t yet broken out. Have arm will travel. *thrown to ground by TSA* Have arm, not arms! Get off me! Preseason Rank #144, 2019 Projections: 8-12/4.66/1.46/132 in 156 IP, Final Numbers: 14-9/3.41/1.06/228 in 176 2/3 IP

14. Luis Castillo – It felt like forever we were waiting for this breakout but this is only his third year in the league, a time when I like to target pitchers. Love third-year pitchers. Seriously, big-time feels for them. Which makes me say, “Dubya tee eff why didn’t I draft him in any leagues?” Sometimes during these recaps I mystify myself at how I blatantly miss on guys in drafts who I loved. For whatever reason, I went with Joey Lucchesi in every league even though he was in the same tier as Castillo. As I’ve said so many times before, sometimes it’s a matter of a coin flip. Preseason Rank #30, 2019 Projections: 11-11/3.71/1.19/187 in 181 IP, Final Numbers: 15-8/3.40/1.14/226 in 190 2/3 IP

15. Patrick Corbin – As someone who owned Corbin in a few leagues, I’m surprised to see him end up this low. He was great to own. His 3.78 September brought him down a bit, I suppose, but, yeah, I had no complaints, except, I guess, him ranking this low at the end of the year. Though, less a complaint and more of a head-scratcher. Preseason Rank #11, 2019 Projections: 14-6/3.09/1.07/226 in 202 IP, Final Numbers: 14-7/3.25/1.18/238 in 202 IP

16. Lance Lynn – Go collect your prop bet you made in March for Lynn getting 245+ Ks. Go ahead. I’ll wait. You have to transport back to the Land of Make Believe to collect it, don’t you? Preseason Rank #108, 2019 Projections: 8-11/4.24/1.34/148 in 153 IP, Final Numbers: 16-11/3.67/1.22/246 in 208 1/3 IP

17. Sonny Gray – Sometimes being on the wrong alternate year of Saberhagenmetrics is all it takes to absolutely want to kick yourself in the nuts, or kick anyone in the nuts with a similarly sounding name. *Ray Galbright dives into bushes to avoid me* Preseason Rank #102, 2019 Projections: 8-9/4.23/1.37/145 in 157 IP, Final Numbers: 11-8/2.87/1.08/205 in 175 1/3 IP

18. Mike Clevinger – When I see someone only throw 126 IP in the top 20 starters recap, it’s like an electric current going straight into my brain and all I can think about is how badly I want to draft them next year. Do you know how good someone has to be to throw that few innings and rank this high? Between Clevinger and Bieber, it’s gonna be Indians’ starter SZN next year. Preseason Rank #15, 2019 Projections: 14-7/3.16/1.10/209 in 204 IP, Final Numbers: 13-4/2.71/1.06/169 in 126 IP

19. Eduardo Rodriguez – I liked and still like Ed-Rod, but look at just the ratios difference between him and Clevinger? If Clevinger had 19 wins like Ed-Rod, he would’ve been the 7th best starter in only 126 innings. Yes, I’m still talking about Clevinger. Get used to it! Preseason Rank #27, 2019 Projections: 13-7/3.58/1.24/168 in 158 IP, Final Numbers: 19-6/3.81/1.33/213 in 203 1/3 IP

20. Mike Soroka – Only 142 Ks in 175 IP? Only a 7.3 K/9? Did he pay The Regression Fairies in Billie Eilish song downloads to stay away from him? Ooh, that gives me a good idea. I wonder if I could pay someone at FanGraphs to write, “Mike Soroka, 2020 Bargain At Any Price,” then send the link to all my leaguemates. This idea actually has some legs. We could start a site called Fangraph dot com, a small typo that no one will notice, and write terrible posts just to fool our leaguemates. “Whoa, dude, I know you’re in my league and I shouldn’t be sharing this with you, but did you see Fangraph dot com said Mike Clevinger is an avoid? Damn, can’t draft him now.” Preseason Rank #106, 2019 Projections: 5-2/3.66/1.29/78 in 94 IP, Final Numbers: 13-4/2.68/1.11/142 in 174 2/3 IP

  1. Harley Earl says:
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    Hey Grey,

    Believe it or not, after three years of misery following the death of Jose Fernandez, my starting pitching (dynasty league) finally came together this season.

    Had a staff of Flaherty, Luis Castillo, Ryu, Lance Lynn and Jordan Lyles. I picked up Lynn fairly early when he started to make his turnaround and got Lyles a week after he went to Milwaukee, both freebies off the waiver wire. I grabbed Ryu last year off the waiver wire when he blew up his groin and was out for three months on the DL.

    My point being, is that it just goes to show you that good pitching can be had in almost any league inexpensively. You’re exactly right in that it’s a crapshoot. I won’t be surprised at all next year when Castillo regresses, Ryu gets hurt again, and Lynn turns into the dumpster fire he was of 2018 again, perhaps Lyles will too.

    If it happens, I’ll just search for more waiver wire pitching gold!

    • Grey

      Grey says:
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      Yup and yup

      • I’ll gladly take a “chance” on Castillo next year. Strong young arm that will get better. Great work Grey!

        • Grey

          Grey says:
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          Same here… No problem

  2. toolshed says:
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    Paddack had a good year despite hitting a rough patch in the 2nd half. He did finish strong in his last couple of starts. The downturn was kind of expected since he really hasnt pitched that many innings. Do you like him next year or do you expect him to regress? SD babied him this year and didnt give him much of leash which really kills him in qs leagues. 90 pitch max, 5 innings, sometimes he reached 6 or 7 if he didnt get his pitch count up. Do you think they let him go longer next year? He is a 2 pitch pitcher so not sure if he will develop something else which would be great but his change is amazing.

    • toolshed says:
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      Just looked it up, he averaged 87 pitches per start. Letting him hit 100 should put him in better position for more qs.

    • bigbear says:
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      Interesting on Paddack’s pitch count. I wonder if it’s part of the analytics trend? Theory being that pitchers get hit harder the third time through the line-up. I would imagine that’s more pronounced in 2-pitch pitchers. Personally, Paddack seems legit. Great control, good EV against.

      On a related note: With the LAR going on with hitters, I could see pitchers with a plus changeup getting a bump in stats (vs. those with a plus curve). No numbers or articles or whatever to back that up, just a thought. Is there any industry rumblings to how pitchers are adjusting to the LAR approach to hitting?

      • Grey

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        Haven’t heard of that, bigbear, but it could be… I had been sayign during the summer that junk was playing better than hard stuff bc hitters weren’t seeing it as much, but maybe it’s bc of LAR

      • Coolwhip

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        pitch tunneling (verlander, cole)… horizontal movement like cutters, backup sliders, 2seamers with a lot of run (e.g. strasburg last night), and yes… a real good changeup that throws off batter timing.

    • Grey

      Grey says:
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      I like him, think he’s around a top 25 SP

  3. Ante Galic says:
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    Grey!!!!

    What a report! Keep some of that enthusiasm for the start of the new MLB season!!!

    a. What a win by the Astros in game 2. Must-win situation for them (well in order for you to make that Astros-Nats WS wager happen). Good job by James in getting out the mess Pressly made. Now they have win at least 1 in NYY and I like their chances to take 2 games especially if game 4 is postponed for weather. If game 4 is postponed I would pitch Cole in game 3 and game 5.

    b. Stressburgler to the rescue. Only 1 time in 37 times has the team leading 3-0 lose it in a 7-game series and 29/37 have gone on to sweep. People say Robles was the star of the game but for me it was Rendon. The guy is a machine. Also, kudos to Zimmerman and his defense at 1B.

    Cheers,
    Ante

    • Grey

      Grey says:
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      Thanks!

      A. Yeah, the Astros don’t look as good as I thought they would so far… Or rather the Yankees pitching has held together better than I thought… Shows you the bullpen can be overworked when you only have to play two games then get days off

      B. Stressburger looked great yesterday, the Nats are streamrolling right now

  4. Donkey Teeth

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    Can we talk about me some more please?

    Here’s what I like about me: I had Flattery ranked #51 overall preseason and Bieber #84 overall—2nd highest ranking in the Fantasy Pros competition.

    Whatever you do, don’t look at my Marquez and Kikuchi rankings.

    • Malicious Phenoms says:
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      Hey Donkey, like to hear your thoughts on Kikuchi for 2020.

      Thanks, MP

      • Donkey Teeth

        Donkey Teeth says:
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        Hey MP,

        It’s hard to get too excited about him at this point. I think he’ll take a step forward and be useful in deeper leagues, something like 4.00 ERA/1.25 WHIP/7.50 K/9. Pretty meh but probably some nice stretches in there…I could see him being a streaky arm.

        We discussed him a little more in depth late August with Asian Fantasy (Baseball) expert Tim McLeod on the pod if you’re interested: https://razzball.com/baseball-podcast-exploring-the-orient-with-tim-mcleod/

        • Malicious Phenoms says:
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          Thanks

      • Grey

        Grey says:
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        MP, avoid at all costs

        • Malicious Phenoms says:
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          Figured as much. I will keep an eye on him, just in case he figures it out, especially if the baseballs are de juiced..

          • Grey

            Grey says:
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            True, unjuiced balls helps!

    • Grey

      Grey says:
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      Really? I must’ve been #1 then bc I had them way above that

      • Donkey Teeth

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        Haha the article you’re commenting on says you had Flattery at 55 overall!

        Upon further research, you had Bieber at 109 overall.

        • Grey

          Grey says:
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          Sorry, I thought you meant you had Flaherty as the 51st starter, I’m dumb, going back to sleep

          • Donkey Teeth

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            Not as dumb as my Kikuchi ranking

            • Grey

              Grey says:
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              Hehe

            • Grey / Donk – to reiterate SP being unpredictable I was just looking back at a post from RotoGraphs and their 2019 SP rankings. Holy crapshoot! Only 4 out of their top 12 had productive seasons! Personally, I got lucky hitting on Verly in the 2nd but there is big time risk going high for a SP

              • Grey

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                Yeah, exactly!

  5. bigbear says:
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    Grey – you’ve long been my Sherpa and spiritual guide, especially as it comes to SPs. I bought into the ‘wait on the arms’ theory early on. So regardless of hits/misses on SP rankings, following that philosophy is a fundamental win. Bats have more measurable to follow. SPs have a few, but are more prone to less objective things (or at least harder to measure inputs).

    Regarding Giolito: Yeah, you didn’t hype him preseason. But I remember some comments from Razznation early on and you agreed/added to the confirmation that his underlying stats look legit and sustainable. For a guy drafted that late/not at all, you were still an early mover. Not bad for a #3 SP!

    Ryu: I’m hoping the injury label sticks with him heading into the 2020 draft. If so, then I can see buying in again… Depends on draft slot I suppose.

    EdRod: Not sure I can get out of my own way and fully trust this guy. I’ve had him on/off for the last 3+(?) years. Drafted him late this year with high hopes. Dropped him fairly early because I just couldn’t.

    Of the non-Cleveland guys, who do you think has the most value heading into 2020? Meaning most upside for the draft slot. Obvi Clevinger and to a lesser degree Bieber, but who else?

    • Coolwhip

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      I’m going to throw this in there too bigbear, another reason for pitcher deviation year to year (non-statistical things that you can’t account for) is they have more mechanical dependence and in the heart of competition there are 9+ guys trying to outwit/beat the 1 as team, whereas hitters its usually 1 of 9 vs 1. So more is stacked against pitchers.

      Case in point: Paxton was horrendous for like first 2/3 of season esp with runners in scoring position, then it was revealed to him that in his glovehand before pitchers he was showing guys on base his grip before the pitch allowing them to tip the batter. That can’t be accounted for in statistics.

      • Grey

        Grey says:
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        Deviation — Pitchers are capable of striking guys out, after that, they rely on fielders and their hitters

    • Grey

      Grey says:
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      Happ to sherpa!

      Yeah, I wrote a lede for Giolito early on saying he should be owned in all leagues, so I liked him, in like May, but not March (and maybe not April)

      Ryu likely to be overpriced is my guess — plus where’s he pitching?

      EdRod – I hear ya, it’s hard to get on board and stay on board

      Corbin and Gray might come at a discount compared to their value, hard to say right now

  6. Coolwhip

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    I’m going to call this a pre-victory lap LOL
    https://razzball.com/top-20-outfielders-for-2019-fantasy-baseball-a-recap/#comment-2929141
    he is hitting .314/.351/.515 in this postseason with 9 RBIs (including the walkoff salami)

    The biggest mistake of my draft was taking Bauer over of Belinger… but i hit on Corbin, Castillo, Glasnow(sorta), Ryu, picked up Odorizzi super early, picked up Lynn right as he found himself, same with Darvish. Can totally just piece pitching together as you go. Never drafting a pitcher before pick 50 ever again.

    • Coolwhip

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      BTW your Belieber post is missing the final numbers ;^)

      • Grey

        Grey says:
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        Oops, fixing now

      • Grey

        Grey says:
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        Holy crap Bieber’s final #s are insane

    • Grey

      Grey says:
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      Howie Kendrick looks predestined to be the World Series MVP

      Yeah, don’t think there’s ever a reason to take a pitcher early… You could hit on deGrom or get screwed like by Blake Snell, there’s no rhyme or reason

      • Malicious Phenoms says:
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        HA, Yankees will beat Astros and Nats, no MVP for Howie!

        • Grey

          Grey says:
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          Ha, could be!

          • Malicious Phenoms says:
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            We watched a movie with Blake Lively last night, so I had to think for a 2nd to who the hell Blake Snell is..lol

            Screwed by Blake Lively sounds so good!

            • Grey

              Grey says:
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              Haha, Lively is much hotter

              • Malicious Phenoms says:
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                She has great curves! Hehe

                • Grey

                  Grey says:
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                  I’d like to slider! Hey now!

                  • Malicious Phenoms says:
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                    NICE!

              • great legs

  7. Whatever says:
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    Any chance Lynn continues his magic in 2020?

    • Coolwhip

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      He *could* still be decent, but likely not THIS good. This was his career year; his K/9, WHIP, K/BB, and FIP haven’t been this good since his rookie year. On the Yankees in the second half last year he did show signs of fixing something, so this wasn’t 100% out of nowhere. I might look into it.

      • Whatever says:
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        i picked him up for a buck during the season in a keeper league. I am thinking he is a decent keeper for a buck.

        • Grey

          Grey says:
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          At a dollar, it’s prolly worth it to keep him, depends on your other keepers tho

    • Smitty says:
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      Nope

    • Grey

      Grey says:
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      NOOOOOOO…

      …Oooooooooo…

      …oooo

      Mayor of Naples is stupid

      • knucks says:
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        I’ll be in Naples in about 2 weeks. Any strongly worded letters you’d like me to hand deliver?

        • Grey

          Grey says:
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          Time for letters is over, we need you to deliver a handful of sleeping fishes

          • knucks says:
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            My wife likes to pack alot of shoes, but I’ll be sure to cram as many of them sleepy fishes as I can fit into our carry-on.

            • Grey

              Grey says:
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              Can you also fit a horse’s head?

              • knucks says:
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                If I were to say Yes here… how close do you think I am to landing on that no-fly list. This would be the funniest thing to have to explain come travel day in Newark.

                • Grey

                  Grey says:
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                  Haha, I bet TSA would tell you you’re not the first

      • FrankGrimes says:
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        You’re going to have to reach out to your contacts and get us an advance screening of the movie!

        • Grey

          Grey says:
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          Pinging Ciro right now

  8. Phillip says:
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    So Master Lothario Grey, if you took Lucchesi in every league what were you expecting from him? Will this guy take a step forward, or are you suddenly into middling SP’s?

    • Grey

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      He prolly would’ve been a 3.75 ERA pitcher without juiced balls, so maybe he could be that still… He gets decent number of Ks, but two pitches and he wasn’t able to last long into games (that could change too)…. He could have some value in 2020, but I’m less optimistic

      • Phillip says:
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        Thanks. I always appreciate youR POV.

        • Grey

          Grey says:
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          No problem

  9. Danny says:
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    Sup grey

    I was able to assemble a legendary staff in my dynasty league and they lead me to the promised land this year. Lead by G. Cole, Scherzer, and Strasburg.

    There’s a little voice in my head that’s telling me i should be worried that my 3 headed monster is still racking up innings. Have you heard any data to support my worries?
    Then again Madbum used to pitch super deep year after year (or every other year). I haven’t looked up how his regular seasons were following his WS runs….
    Curious your thoughts

    • Grey

      Grey says:
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      Only real concern for starters arms dealing with fatigue are ones under 25 years of age… Prefer to have all my SPs stay around 200, but after 5 months of rest, they should be okay

  10. Harley Earl says:
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    Hey Grey,

    Roster cleaning up question here for you. Dynasty team, I’m looking at my final spot of which belongs to one of two guys who finished the season on the DL.

    Would you keep Tommy LaStella or Jake Arrietta?

    Yeah, it’s not a very exciting move lol. I’m probably in greater need of an infielder than an SP as far as my roster makeup goes. However, I wondered if you thought Arrieta might bounce back following the surgery or if you believe his arm is cooked.

    • Grey

      Grey says:
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      Neither… La Stella

      • Harley Earl says:
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        If not Jose Garcia, La Stella or Arrieta, would you keep Emanuel Clase? It’s a Holds league, so Clase could be valuable.

        • Grey

          Grey says:
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          Meh, should be able to find holds elsewhere

    • Smitty says:
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      Wouldn’t touch either one

      • Harley Earl says:
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        Interesting reply.

        So would you just go ahead and keep Cincinnati Reds SS prospect Jose Garcia and let them both go? Or look elsewhere for a prospect?

        • Grey

          Grey says:
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          Maybe elsewhere, depends what elsewhere has

          • Harley Earl says:
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            It’s a deep league. Ain’t much out there.

            Adam Frazier, Joey Votto, Eric Thames, J. Profar, Brandon Belt, Freddy Galvis all available. You like any of those guys for next year?

            Remember, this is the very last spot on my team. Not someone I’ll actually count on unless my entire roster collapses.

            • Grey

              Grey says:
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              Prolly a Profar flyer

              • Harley Earl says:
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                He does have potential. Thanks!

                • Grey

                  Grey says:
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                  No problem

            • Malicious Phenoms says:
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              For some unexplained reason, I like Votto for 2020

  11. Squat Cobblers says:
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    Good stuff Grey as usual!

    Related to your philosophy of waiting on pitching…I just checked…In a highly competitive RCL, I picked up the season’s 13th best starter (giolito) off of waivers on May 13th! (good thing I’m not afraid of the number 13!)

    In that same RCL, MattTruss waited until pick 139, Round 12! to pick up his first Starting Pitcher (bieber)…6th best Bieber was the 28th SP taken!

    While I’m sure I can cherry-pick underrated hitters, it’s just much more difficult to build an offense that competes in every category without loading up on hitters early.

    • Grey

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      Ha, nice! Yeah, Truss knows what he’s doing… there’s hitters to be found, for sure, but all you need is 3-5 pitchers total… plenty of them around…Not to mention you can get pitchers for a couple months drop them and pick up others

  12. Malicious Phenoms says:
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    Does Eric Lauer take the next step forward in 2020, or is he always just gonna be a back end starter?

    • Grey

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      He could, he’s an interesting name to look at

      • Malicious Phenoms says:
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        Agreed, especially on a young Padres team that shud be much better over the next few years..

        • Grey

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          Yeah and NL West is usually good for SPs outside of Coors

  13. Ralph says:
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    Which 2 do I keep. I can keep 5, with Bellinger at 8, K Marte at 13

    Cole – 1st rd
    Bieber – 5th
    Corbin – 7th
    Gray – 14

    • Grey

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      Bieber, Corbin

      • Grey

        Grey says:
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        Wait, isn’t there an option for third? Gray

        • Ralph says:
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          Probably won’t keep a third SP. Considering Bell, though I hate his second half, or LeMahieu at 14, but with so many quality 2bs, I could get him in the mid rounds anyway.

  14. pinkman says:
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    Waaaay too early keeper question! KEEP 6 in a 12-team 5×5 roto, 30 Rounds deep. You take the player in the round they were originally drafted. In order of my rank-

    Gerrit Cole Rd9
    Jacob deGrom Rd4
    Freddie Freeman Rd1
    Shane Bieber Rd9
    Xander Bogaerts Rd3
    Lucas Giolito Rd15
    Austin Meadows Rd19
    Manny Machado Rd2

    Who ya got?

    • Grey

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      Not Machado, Freeman – tough call tho

      • pinkman says:
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        Thanks. Seeing regression for Freddie or think he’s hurt?

        • Grey

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          Nah, I like him, but you can just redraft him

          • pinkman says:
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            He could be the best guy left in the pool by the time keepers are selected though. I guess that’s the nuance you’re speaking of when you say it’s a tough call

            • Grey

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              Yeah, exactly

  15. Matty says:
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    Ugh. Kicking myself again for shipping EdRod for Greg Holland early in the season in a keeper when I was hurting for saves.
    I think I got two saves out of that deal.

    • Matty says:
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      Also, I’ll gladly churn out some content for fangraph

      • Grey

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        Nice!

    • Grey

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      Damn

  16. Peacecoast says:
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    Hi G! long time.

    I’m sure you’ve watched Fleabag. Best show I have experienced in a long time.

    xox

    • Grey

      Grey says:
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      Really? Wow, I haven’t watched the whole thing… Watched a few episodes of 1st season and stopped…

      • Peacecoast says:
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        loved it, watched with wife tho it’s a couples show

        • Grey

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          Cougs watched it already and loved it, you watched it already and loved it, so now I guess I have to watch it by myself

  17. ElGuero says:
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    Happy Wednesday, Grey!

    I’m in a 12 team H2H keeper league.
    We keep 10.

    These are my keepers:
    1st Abreu
    2nd Hiura
    SS Bichette
    3rd Moncada
    OF Alvarez
    OF Betts
    SP Snell
    SP Buehler
    SP Soroka
    SP Severino

    Would you move Snell for Bryant? maybe Staton? Or just stay put?
    what kind of player is Snell worth?

    • Grey

      Grey says:
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      Wednesday!

      I’d try to move Soroka before Snell… Or even Severino… Though, their values may be lower… Maybe like an Eloy for Soroka?

    • Love Bichette / Hiura up the middle – hold Snell

  18. Coolwhip

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    Nats with the sweep! The fairies finally came for Dakota, hahaha. and they were pissed.

    Its official! Joe Maddon is now the Angels skipper… i’m ready for free agency. can we sign Gerrit Cole yet??? (this is likely misplaced optimism, lol)

    Can’t wait for your top 40 SP :-) going to be the #Coolwhipped show

    • Grey

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      Haha, totally! Hopefully no one paid attention to that Dakota start and still drafts him

      Maddon — nice! It’s the first good move the Angels have done, aside from signing Trout, in about a decade — now they need Cole, for sure

      • Coolwhip

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        Haha, yeah. The trade for Greinke was a good move… IF THEY KEPT HIM! he was so good in LA, saw it coming a mile away as he was peaking, would have been nice to have him in rotation instead of Blanton, Hanson, Santiago et al. 2014 felt the biggest sting there, swept by the Royals in ALDS (after winning 98 games) and that money went to Josh Hamilton who was useless instead of Greinke. time to fix that mistake… pay the top pitcher that’s in his prime.

        • Grey

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          Yeah, exactly… Josh Hamilton was so obviously a terrible move at the time, and what they gave him is still insane

      • Smitty says:
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        Bad signings and personnel decisions. If Mike was surrounded with some legit talent….fill in the blank. Maddon does bring some badly needed common sense

        • Grey

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          Yeah, Maddon helps, but they still have Trout and next to nothing — they need Cole

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