We already went over the top 20 catchers and the top 20 1st basemen for 2014 fantasy baseball.  Today, we dip our big toe into the top 20 2nd basemen.  There were a lot of land mines found at this position.  Shoot (not you Dick Cheney!), I’d say a guy like Cano ending up in the top 10 was still a landmine due to where you had to draft him.  But there was Kipnis, Gyorko, Aaron Hill, Brandon Phillips, Brad Miller (!), Lowrie and the thousands words devoted to Alex Guerrero in the preseason and he didn’t even show up until September.  To recap, this final ranking for last year is from our Fantasy Baseball Player Rater with my comments.  The Player Rater allows me to be impartial while looking at how I ranked them in the preseason.  Anyway, here’s the top 20 2nd basemen for 2014 fantasy baseball and how they compared to where I originally ranked them:

1. Jose Altuve – To put this season by Altuve into historic context, it would be like Eddie Gaedel becoming the world ruler of the universe and ordering everyone over the height of five-foot-two to immediate death.  Preseason Rank #5, 2014 Projections: 80/8/63/.292/33, Final Numbers: 85/7/59/.341/56

2. Anthony Rendon – I couldn’t have been any more wrong on Rendon than when I ranked him in the preseason.  Across every position I was most wrong about Rendon.  Sure, I gave a guy like Cruz his usual 27 homers and he ended up leading the majors.   But I could’ve saw that happening.  Rendon?  I didn’t see it coming at all, and I don’t doubt him.  I just missed his ability to hit for 20+ homers and steal more than 15 bases.  You’ll have to excuse me since he stole one bases all of last year in the minors and looked like a 10-ish homer guy in the minors.  Preseason Rank #16, 2014 Projections: 72/14/74/.279/4, Final Numbers: 111/21/83/.287/17

3. Ian Kinsler – He did exactly what I expected him to do, and I still feel like I got lucky to own him for a year where he had 684 ABs.  It’s like one of those Rangers seasons where Teixeira saw 700-something plate appearances.  Anything over 650 ABs for any player and you got lucky.  Preseason Rank #4, 2014 Projections: 103/16/74/.269/17, Final Numbers: 100/17/92/.275/15

4. Brian Dozier – One of the biggest values, and that’s after disappearing in the 2nd half of the year.  Rudy can probably figure this out, but I’d suggest his first half alone was better than half of the guys on this list.  His 1st half: 18 HRs, 16 SBs and a .242 average.  That’s gotta be better than what Murphy gave you the whole season.  What does this mean?  There were four 2nd baseman that you did well holding the whole year.  Preseason Rank #23, 2014 Projections: 52/12/60/.230/9, Final Numbers:  112/23/71/.242/21

5. Dee Gordon – No one saw this year coming.  Even the people that drafted him late.  They were probably expecting a 40-steal, .250-average year as the best case scenario.  If you say you expected him to hit more than 150 points above his weight, you’re lying.  Why you’re lying is something you have to soul search over.  I can only lead you in the right direction as your spiritual adviser.  Preseason Rank #19 for Shortstops, 2014 Projections: 58/1/24/.242/39, Final Numbers: 92/2/34/.289/64

6. Robinson Cano – You couldn’t have dropped Cano for his yawnstipating April, July and September and held him for his other solid months, but three months is half a season, so technically Cano was kinda whatever for half a season.  Continued in Harrison’s blurb.  Preseason Rank #1, 2014 Projections: 84/26/105/.312/4, Final Numbers:  77/14/82/.314/10

7. Josh Harrison – Not only were only four 2nd basemen worth owning all year (top 3 and Gordon), Harrison one-upped that by not being owned all year in any leagues.  He came out of nowhere to hit for power.  Reminds me of Asdrubal from a few years ago, only not quite that extreme.  Harrison’s batting average wasn’t a revelation, he had steals too in the minors.  Power though?  He seemed like a 6-8 homer guy.  Though, seemed and is are (confusing syntax points!) different things, and I think he was just overlooked.  As long as he doesn’t stop hitting fly balls, his HR/FB isn’t insane this year, and he hits a ton of line drives.  Any time a 13-homer guy does well there’s a chance for a 8-homer hitter to emerge and be pee-poor, but I’m liking what I see here more than I thought I would.  Preseason Unranked, Final Numbers:  77/13/52/.315/18

8. Howie Kendrick – He ended up finishing higher in the rankings then I ranked him in the preseason, but he really didn’t do more than I projected him for, actually did worse if you discount runs and RBIs, and as I preach, you should always discount those.  For further discussion on that subject see my reasoning for avoiding Matt Crapenter this year.  Preseason Rank #12, 2014 Projections: 62/15/70/.284/10, Final Numbers:  85/7/75/.293/14

9. Neil Walker – If I thought Walker was capable of 20+ homers, I never would’ve ranked him as low as I did.  Even if I thought there was a modicum of a chance of it happening.  While this was a career year, his HR/FB isn’t that crazy inflated, and looks like a 17-homer guy that got just a tad lucky.  By the by, Tad Lucky is my favorite porn star.  Preseason Rank #24, 2014 Projections: 61/14/59/.259/2, Final Numbers:  74/23/76/.271/2

10. Chase Utley – *looking at my preseason projections for Utley and his end-of-the-season numbers, smiles, slicks hair with pomade*  Preseason Rank #11, 2014 Projections: 65/16/73/.274/10, Final Numbers: 74/11/78/.270/10

11. Daniel Murphy – My preseason projections and his end-of-the-season numbers couldn’t have been much closer, yet I ranked him much lower than he ended up.  Couple of reasons A) Offense is down across the board. B) I don’t like the kind of stats Murphy gives and would prefer to take a flyer on steals or power-upside than go for a five category bleh performer, so I bury him in my rankings.  C) There’s no C.  Preseason Rank #21, 2014 Projections: 76/8/59/.282/12, Final Numbers: 79/9/57/.289/13

12. Matt Carpenter – I told you in the preseason he was overrated, and I was right, but I still overrated him with where I ranked him vs. where he ended up.  Seems easy to say now, but back in February when I said he was overrated, it wasn’t obvious to all.  One comment from my overrated post went like this, “We’ve only just begun to find out how good this guy can be. For all we know he could hit more HR’s (sic) and steal more bases next year. Most lead off (sic) hitters, they long to be close to his projections. Calling occupants of interplanetary earth, this guys (sic) a stud!”  Is adding ‘sic’ the douchey thing you can do?  Perhaps.  Here’s another comment, “Baseball America’s fantasy magazine has Matt Carpenter ranked 13TH OVERALL for 2014 Fantasy baseballing.”  Okay, that wasn’t a disagreement comment, just thought it was funny when I re-read the comments.  Preseason Rank #10, 2014 Projections: 94/12/69/.304/4, Final Numbers: 99/8/59/.272/5

13. Ben Zobrist – My projections on these guys so far are pretty damn accurate if I do say so myself.  *blows on knuckles, rubs shirt, realizes I just got ink on my shirt, curses*  Preseason Rank #7, 2014 Projections: 79/14/70/.268/14, Final Numbers:  83/10/52/.272/10

14. Asdrubal Cabrera – I mentioned Asdrubal above because of his 25-homer season back in 2011.  Feels like so long ago.  Was really only a long time ago in Shia LaDouche’s career trajectory.  “Hey it’s the guy from Even Stevens!”  *a year later*  “Hey, it’s the guy with a paper bag over his head and showing a flaccid dong on camera!”  So, basically, Asdrubal and Shia LaDouche are one in the same.  By the by, if you read Shia’s Wiki page by the end you’re surprised to not read the circumstances of his death.  Preseason Rank #14 for Shortstops, 2014 Projections: 69/15/73/.262/10, Final Numbers:  74/14/61/.241/10

15. Dustin Ackley – I bumblefumbled his projections.  Not really sure how I missed so badly on his power.  *looks at reflection*  Ah, I’m okay now.  Nothing a little glimpse of the ‘stache can’t fix!  Preseason Rank #32, 2014 Projections: 52/6/32/.258/6, Final Numbers:  64/14/65/.245/8

16. Martin Prado – If the guys from Dozier thru Asdrubal weren’t exactly great the whole year, this group of guys weren’t really good for the majority of the year.  Um, 2nd base is a mess.  Oh, and 2nd base is better than shortstop, which we’ll get to next.  Preseason Rank #15, 2014 Projections: 65/13/76/.277/5, Final Numbers:  62/12/58/.282/3

17. Dustin Pedroia – I’d go out on a pretty sturdy limb and say Pedroia hurt you more than any of the guys on this list. (Though Kipnis didn’t even make the list so he hurt you more.  Oh, and yeah, I told everyone to not draft Kipnis and wrote an overrated post about him.  Yes, I was basically right and more right and right-right about guys you should not draft.)  I say that this Sparky Anklebiter hurt you so much because you owned him all year expecting him to be better and constantly being disappointed.  It wasn’t like you dropped him at one point in May and moved on.  Preseason Rank #3, 2014 Projections: 93/14/89/.298/18, Final Numbers:  72/7/53/.278/6

18. Kolten Wong – Giggle all you want, but I want Wong everywhere next year.  Yes, this is about the year that was, but with some guys I can’t contain my excitement.  Wong is one of those.  Preseason Rank #17, 2014 Projections: 72/11/52/.277/17, Final Numbers:  52/12/42/.249/20

19. Luis Valbuena – Oy. Preseason Unranked, Final Numbers:  68/16/51/.249/1

20. Scooter Gennett – I’ll be honest with you, I don’t know what to make of Scooter moving forward.  The Brewers really messed him up by not letting him mature as a hitter vs. lefties.  Last year, he was only able to face them for 39 ABs, so it’s impossible to say if he is a strict platoon guy.  That shizz is Weeks.  Preseason Rank #20, 2014 Projections: 60/12/64/.281/10, Final Numbers:  55/9/54/.289/6

  1. Swfcdan says:
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    Tigers out in 3, Angels out in 3, Nats could be out in 3.

    This is some serious crazy shit goin down!

  2. JeF With 1 F says:
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    You Betts believe i’m going to give you all the Wong you can handle next season.

  3. Ante GALIC says:
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    Grey!

    Nice stuff.

    1. Hope you had a gr8 weekend;

    2. or at least better than Detroit fans (double-double on Sunday, poor spouses facing spousal abuse after home team loses especially after leading against Buffalo in the 3rd quarter, 14-3!!!) and LAA fans.

    3. We need a GOOD (emphasis on GOOD) analysis of the Royals and Os sweep of LAA and DET. It’s amazing that clutch hitting is now winning for KC.

    4. LAA starting pitching is pretty awful. Good thing that CJ has started on his acting career b/c he will need a new job very soon.

    5. On 2B, I kept Kipnis in my lineup all year-long in two leagues (Not really proud of that one.). I lost one league (I also had Davis, Tulo, CarGo AND Tanaka in that one too) but one won with Kipnis in another league. I used other pieces when he was injured – Santana and Harrison (many thanks on both counts) – so was able to survive and win that league.

    6. My greatest acquisition was Altuve! Won that league and remember in the draft that Kipnis was available when I took Altuve. I remember feeling REALLY stupid for not drafting Kipnis at that point in my snake draft # 58 (10-team, H2H, pts, seasonal, re-draft league). I had a BIG man crush on Kipnis going in to the draft.

    7. How does one lose a man crush? I was really high on 2010 J-Ham but that high has really faded to almost nothing. Almost got a sniff of that high this year when J-Ham cracked a double down the line to the opposite field. Help me!

    Cheers,
    Ante

    • Grey

      Grey says:
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      @Ante GALIC: 1. You too! 4. Wasn’t great after Richards went down in the season 5. Ouch, nice you were able to win one 6. I could see that, he was incredible this year 7. Eh, he’s done, riding for the sunset. It’ll happen for me and Giancarlo in 25 years too.

  4. de nachos says:
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    I want to believe the Phillies eat 80% of Ryan Howard’s contract, trade him to DH somewhere, and move Utley to 1st for his Zombino year with 2B eligibility. I also want to believe Cody Ashe moves to 2B and turns into Chase the second coming <– not (exactly) a reference to your double hooker Utley story. And finally I believe Mike and I will hold a seance and the ghost of Harry Kalas will materialize and punch Ruben Amaro Jr. in the huevos.

    • Grey

      Grey says:
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      @de nachos: All of those things make more sense than the Phils are able to pull off, I’m afraid

  5. MattTruss

    MattTruss223 says:
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    Wow, some serious witchcraft going on.

    I really enjoy the quoting old comments from previous threads as seen here with Carpenter and in catchers w/Mauer. Very enjoyable reads. Haha, 13th overall, that’s awesome.

    I can attest to the Pedroia comments, that munchkin brought down what I thought was my best team post draft. Turned out to be the worst finish across all my leagues. Figures.

    • Grey

      Grey says:
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      @MattTruss223: Thanks! Yeah, readers seemed more inclined to believe Carpenter would be overrated… Not so much at other fantasy sites where he was universally loved in February…

  6. Slim Pickens says:
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    Hey Grey, if you had 4 keepers, who would you keep for next year? Wainright, Carlos Carrasco, Alex Gordon, Carpenter, Votto, JD Martinez, Rusney, Ryan Zim, Longoria, Kendrick, Pujols.

    • Grey

      Grey says:
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      @Slim Pickens: Waino, Pujols, Votto, Longo — not great choices

      • Slim Pickens says:
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        @Grey: Yep, I failed.

  7. gareth says:
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    Jason freaking kipnis.

    He never got enough DL time and rest and ended up playing through the remnants of an oblique strain all year and was clearly not the same player. The amount of times I saw him ground out weakly to 1st base, it wasn’t funny. Masterson did the same thing with his knee. Why don’t these guys realize they’re hurting and not helping the team by playing hurt?

    I swear if I’d drafted Altuve instead of kipnis in the second round of my rcl this year I’d probably have won the league. Same with kluber over Masterson.

    Hey Grey, do you now see a fully healthy Kipnis as an underrated buy low candidate next year, or are you not going near him?

    • Grey

      Grey says:
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      @gareth: I think you were actually one quoted in Carpenter… Not sure if you saw it, but you beat out Kid A in master standings, while losing in your league…. Kipnis could be underrated, sure

  8. Paul says:
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    Do you think Dozier’s low BABIP is a sign that he could keep (or improve )this production next year, or simply the result of his pop-up tendancies?

    • Grey

      Grey says:
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      @Paul: Pop-ups

  9. gareth says:
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    I never forget prezzi razzing me in the rcl about drafting Gomes. I think he ended up undrafted.

    I actually became the Oakland A’s at one point when I had Ramos, Gomes and Santana and wanted to pick up Norris for a batty call against a lefty but had no room! 4 catchers biatches!

    I’m definitely going to ease up on my catcher fixation next year, especially with Santana losing eligibility.

    MUST. NOT. DRAFT. CATCHER. EARLY.

  10. gareth says:
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    In the rcl, I noticed elite closers, as well as elite set up guys with the prospect of closing were in high demand, even over decent starting pitchers.

    I know SAGNOF, but do you normally prioritize getting these guys over a starter in the draft if you had to choose?

    It seems like there’s a million starters, and obviously only 30 closers at one time. And guys like betances and Davis were probably more valuable that a ton of starters, even with the lack of saves.

    I ask because I may prioritize relievers over starting pitching next year.

    • de nachos says:
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      @gareth: I’d prioritize relievers. I drafted Lee, Price, Shields in RCL and said “eff that pitching is deep, I’m gonna anchor my staff with three dependable studs and trade ’em later.” Nope.

    • Grey

      Grey says:
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      @gareth: I don’t draft elite closers… Guys like K-Rod always come out of nowhere

    • J-FOH says:
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      @gareth: There is no one strategy for the RCL, make your own way kitty…make your own way

  11. gareth says:
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    G3!

    • Grey

      Grey says:
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      @gareth: Seems like 4 to me, Cust kayin’

      • A Wesley Snipes Life says:
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        @Grey: what was the new line you made up “G = Gareth needs a calculator”, might have been abacus.

    • Grey

      Grey says:
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      @Sky: Yeah, totally… Nailed it!

    • J-FOH says:
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      @Sky: You totally know how to speak poo

      • Sky

        Sky says:
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        It’s a language I know well. My RCL teams proved it.

        • J-FOH says:
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          @Sky: my fantasy football teams have become fluent in the art by week 4, this week they started to take on the diarrhea dialect

          • Sky

            Sky says:
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            Oddly having a strong year in just about every league right now. Most leagues I didn’t draft an RB high comparative to last year. My first loss in the writers league shall happen this week, though. But that’s what happens when three of your starters (Rashad, Graham, Brown) get hurt halfway through the game.

            • J-FOH says:
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              @Sky: with the first pick I felt I had to take Shady, even though in my heart I wanted Calvin.

              • Sky

                Sky says:
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                That wouldn’t have helped you either, though, in the long run. Should’ve gone with Forte that high; at least he was my boy in terms of high first round RBs. And Shady will turn it around. Can’t forget how badly banged up that o-line is right now.

  12. Wake Up says:
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    Please allow me to preapologize for what is about to follow:

    Me: Hey ended up with Rendon and Dozier at 2B and MI

    Grey: Really punted huh?

    Me: Nah, they’ll be just fine

    Grey: You must be smoking some of that Segura crizzack

    Me: Nah, I’ll betcha that they both come in top 5

    Grey: And, I bet YOU that JFOH can top 5 em pee h’s at a full gallop

    JFOH: You’re really lucky Wake, that there is not one f in Wake!

    Me: And, you’re really lucky that you have such an amazing chin beard, and you’re really lucky Grey that you have the most marvelous stache that I’ve never seen!

    • J-FOH says:
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      @Wake Up: HA! best post draft adds after drops in the FCL…besides Yordano, or at least that is what the marketing had to say.

      • Wake Up says:
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        @J-FOH: Thanks, one of my only highlights in a mostly disappointing season for me

        • J-FOH says:
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          @Wake Up: getting to know nacho is my best highlight of the year

          • de nachos says:
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            @J-FOH: wake you’re welcome for Rendon.

            cheers back atcha, Foh. my highlight was having fun despite getting my milkshake drank, Daniel Day.

    • Grey

      Grey says:
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      Then we danced and told stories to girls fifteen younger than ourselves that thought we were creepy? Totally remember that!

      • Wake Up says:
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        @Grey: It was one of the top 5 knights (sic) in those girl’s (sic) lifes (sic)…

        • Grey

          Grey says:
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          They’d never admit, but will remember it always…

          • J-FOH says:
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            @Grey: Life won’t get any weirder or better for them

            • Grey

              Grey says:
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              Nope, all boredom and princes from here on out…

              • J-FOH says:
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                @Grey: on a different yet similar note, when I go to see my buddy, whose girlfriend is 22, and he has kick backs at his pad there are always 21 year old girls there. I have brought up the fact that I’m old enough to be their father which always brings on a friendly smile from them. These chicks love the thought of the older man for fun….cust kayin’

                • Grey

                  Grey says:
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                  Yeah, then you make a reference to Atari and they think you mean The Ataris

                  • J-FOH says:
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                    @Grey: Throw out a Tupac comment and they say ” I love old school hip hop”

                    • Grey

                      Grey says:
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                      Eminem is old school for them

                  • J-FOH says:
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                    @Grey: Justin Timberlake is old school for them

                    • Grey

                      Grey says:
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                      2013 is old school for then

  13. Cafuné

    Maxi says:
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    would you keep Wong or Avisail Garcia in a 5-player keeper league? it will be the last year in this keeper league before we do a reset and “evolve” to an auction draft. Wong’s keeper round value is 25 (out of 25), whereas Garcia will be 19. I could also keep both Wong and Garcia, in which case I would then have to – and am very much considering – pass on keeping a pitcher between: Strasburg (7th), Gray (20th) and deGrom (25th).

    my other keepers are Abreu, Cespedes, and Corey Dickerson.

    I had Pedroia until August when I traded him, Stroman and Gerrit Cole for Strasburg and Hanley. Pedroia will not be in my fantasy lineup ever again.

    thanks and keep the cathartic end-of-season rankings coming! cheers

    • Grey

      Grey says:
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      Wong… No problem

  14. J-FOH says:
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    With Matt Crap to the Ner showing off power in the playoffs, I have to wonder

    Cause He’s Matt Crap, yes the real Crrrr-ap
    All you other Matt Crap’s are just imitating
    So won’t the real Matt Crap please stand up,
    Please stand up, please stand up?

    • Grey

      Grey says:
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      I saw that live on Saturday… What what?!

      • J-FOH says:
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        @Grey: whoopty whoop!!

        • Grey

          Grey says:
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          Big time whoopty whoop!

  15. Wake Up says:
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    Sic Crapenter blurb, btw!

    • Grey

      Grey says:
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      Ha

  16. Wake Up says:
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    Carp was a good call, seemed fairly obvious though, I think where you really nailed it was Kipnis, kudos.

    • J-FOH says:
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      @Wake Up: he got a little unlucky, see BABIP difference this year, but the 90+ runs and a .300ish BA average still seemed reasonable. RBI’s for leadoff guys in the National league are always tough to call. The Cardinals as a whole were very underwhelming this year that kind of backs up Sky’s impact of the loss of Beltran factor. Speaking of captain injury, am I the only one who thinks they are running the HGH all over the St. Louie?

    • Grey

      Grey says:
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      Thanks, Wake!

  17. Big League Wood says:
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    I had heard the cardinals were shopping Wong around the AS break and wanted to move Carpenter back to second. Trying to get some power on the corners.

    • Grey

      Grey says:
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      Could be

    • Montezuma's Revenge... right now says:
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      @Big League Wood: they have bascially no CI prospects of any type, see scruggs being in MLB lineup. He was their 30th ranked (and best corner) prospect coming into year.

  18. JeF With 1 F says:
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    I had trouble sleeping last night so i called up Nick The Dick and had him read me the story of how Jack became J-FOH…I didn’t even make it to the end. I had the best night of sleep ever.

    • Grey

      Grey says:
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      Haha

      • JeF With 1 F says:
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        @Grey: #Yawnstipating

        • Grey

          Grey says:
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          Ha, yup

    • nick the dick says:
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      @JeF With 1 F: actually, it was the tylenol pm i slipped in your warm milk, the story of JFoh is quite riveting when told in melodic rhyme. Did you know you spew facts in yout sleep? It was too cute…

      • Grey

        Grey says:
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        Haha

      • jef with 1 f says:
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        @nick the dick: Ha ha..your beard tickling the back of my neck was very soothing

  19. chris says:
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    wong over kinsler next season?

    • Grey

      Grey says:
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      Yeah

  20. Lucked out drafting Altuve who far exceeded my expectations. Actually giving the litle bastard keeper consideration. In a 12 Team H2H, where would you have his Napolionic rise result on next season’s draft day? Is he a first rounder?

    • Grey

      Grey says:
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      He’s a 2nd to 3rd rounder

  21. royce! says:
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    Was it you I told to watch Twin Peaks? Showtime’s doing a new series. I gotta get the wife to finally watch the original, though it might be too late, give how old it is.

    • J-FOH says:
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      @royce!: what up Royce! Twin peaks was such a weird one. Did you catch when Psych did a Twin peaks episode filled with Twin Peaks cast members? It’s called Dual Spires

      • royce! says:
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        @J-FOH: No, I hadn’t…weird…I’ll have to check it out.

    • Grey

      Grey says:
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      They’re remaking Twin Peaks?

    • goodfold2 says:
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      @royce!: WTF! did Lynch sell out or is he on too? I turn you on to Pynchon movie trailers and you turn me on to shows that me and my best friends went bat shit crazy for in high school (this was years after it came out); we bought and traded the VHS of Twin Peaks around to like 15 of us.

  22. Prince George says:
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    Hey Grey, thanks for all the help this past year. In a 12 team keeper and ignoring position are you keeping Wong or Taveras for the next 3 years? Is it close? Thanks.

    • Grey

      Grey says:
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      Wong, it’s close

  23. J-FOH says:
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    Being that “Offense is down across the board” is that a trend that will play into your rankings or are you seeing a rebound? and again, why aren’t you on fantasy pros?

    • Grey

      Grey says:
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      I am on fantasy pros

      • J-FOH says:
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        @Grey: I couldn’t find you for 2013 and back

        • Grey

          Grey says:
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          Whatever, they’re the worst site anyway

          • J-FOH says:
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            @Grey: hahaha, I have to use them for football.

            • Grey

              Grey says:
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              Yeah, they suck but whatever

              • J-FOH says:
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                @Grey: never looked at them for baseball. The weekly H2H rankings make them relevant for football

                • Grey

                  Grey says:
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                  Yeah, eff them

                  • J-FOH says:
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                    @Grey: new analogy in back pocket.

                    “Grey loves Joey Votto like he loves fantasy pros”

                    • Grey

                      Grey says:
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                      Haha

  24. Clint says:
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    Jurickson Profar :(

    • Grey

      Grey says:
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      Don’t know what that means

  25. Steve says:
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    Grey,
    Need some guidance on my keeper decisions. I’m in a 10 team h2h and we are allowed four keepers at the price of the round that they were drafted in. I have about 6 potential candidates and can’t decide between them, but I’ll give you my whole team in case I am overlooking somebody. Also, I have the first overall pick in next year’s draft (courtesy of last place) so I don’t need to keep McCutchen. My roster with the round the player was drafted in is below.

    J. Mauer (8), A. Rizzo (11), J. Kipnis (6), C. Headley (19), Al. Ramirez (20), A. McCutchen (1), A. Gordon (14), C. Carter (20), J. Bruce (4), Y. Puig (3), G. Polanco (20), K. Davis (20), A. Cobb (9), S. Gray (12), A. Wood (20), M. Fiers (20), Y. Ventura (20), D. Robertson (13), F. Rodriguez (20), S. Kazmir (20), A. Sanchez (8), H. Bailey (9)

    I can keep multiple guys in the 20th I’d just have to give up the round prior. What do you think?

    • jef with 1 f says:
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      @Steve: Rizzo puig, Gordon, polanco, and take cutch 1st.

      • jef with 1 f says:
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        @jef with 1 f: I’m not Much of a Gordon fan though and could see leaving him out for wood or Ventura in the 20th

    • Grey

      Grey says:
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      Rizzo, Polanco, Puig, Alexei… Could see going Carter over Alexei…

      • J-FOH says:
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        @Grey: did you catch mike’s commandments?

        • Grey

          Grey says:
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          I’ve been traveling for the last four days…

          • J-FOH says:
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            @Grey: I know, that’s why I asked, I assumed if your were at home chillin you would of read it.

            • Grey

              Grey says:
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              Ah, gotcha… Nope, sitting in traffic right now, picking up Ted… Almost home!

              • J-FOH says:
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                @Grey: near you, there will be a bunch of street closures the next couple of days with Biden in town….that’s an FYI

                • Grey

                  Grey says:
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                  Thanks for the heads up! Ted’s on board, heading home!

                  • J-FOH says:
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                    @Grey: scratch his ears for me

                    • Grey

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                      Done and done

    • J-FOH says:
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      @Steve: Is this a keep forever or are there limits. Also have you read Mike’s commandments, which is intended for roto, but can be helpful https://razzball.com/keeper-commandments/

      Assuming you have a years limit, I’d go Rizzo, Bruce, Gordon, and Davis. I don’t think the time share is going to be there for the Brewers this next year. But follow that situation in regards to Davis. Parra is eligible for arbitration so you want to see what they do with him.

      With no limit to years, I would go Rizzo, Bruce, Polanco and Davis.

      I think Bruce is a better value in the 4th, and if you really want Puig you can probably re-draft him at a similar spot as he should drop in some drafts. Again, this is about knowing the other guys tendencies in your keeper league.

    • CrackerJack says:
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      @Steve: Rizzo, Gordon, Carter, Polanco. Puig is a donkey!

  26. BrewFreeOrDie says:
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    Howdy Grey,

    Another great write up, I’m all in on Wong next year for all the Wright reasons. Also, though I agree that I didn’t understand it, the Jurickson Profar sad face above this made me laugh for some reason. Couple of questions for you:

    1. Will closers ever got a royal court of SAGNOF? Seems like Rajai needs a partner in crime. Speaking of closers, I know you hate drafting them early, but how do you view drafting Kimbrel and punting the rest? He’s about as consistent as they come.

    2. Thoughts on Guerrero for next year? Assuming he manages to avoid an other aural incidents.

    3. Based on previous comments, Twin Peaks is pretty amazing, and I recommend watching it. You’ll know an episode in whether you’ll love it or hate it. And despite the fact that it’s annoying that everything these days is either a sequel, adaptation, or remake, the show Fargo is pretty excellent as well.

    4. Happy Freaking Monday

    Cheers,
    Brew

    • J-FOH says:
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      @BrewFreeOrDie:

      1) depends on league, if you know how your league mates strategize then use that. If this is H2H then don’t bother. It really depends. If it’s a deeper league then you might want one. If you are in a league where a lot of starting pitchers are streamed, hence a lot are available then you also might want to invest.

      2) Assuming the Dodgers let Hanley walk, they will probably give him a shot at 2nd while Dee moves to short. This situation is wholly dependent of their off season moves.

    • Grey

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      Yeah, he should have a dueling court… I don’t draft top closers 2. Depends if he has a starting job 3. Fargo was awesome, one of the best shows this year… Gotcha on Twin Peaks, not sure if I’m that interested, but I’ll maybe I’ll check it out at some point… Lots of other shows to watch first…

  27. goodfold2 says:
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    yeah, this makes sense, hosmer/carpenter end year with each less than 10 homers (hosmer only played 5/6 of season), but can hit about 1 a game now. Fans of these teams should be confused, not only happy.

    • Grey

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      Ha

      • goodfold2 says:
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        @Grey: yr right, kendrick basically became a (season only) version of carpenter, with steals.

  28. jef with 1 f says:
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    I think Joe buck is snappin the old carrot watching Matt carpenter..he can’t get enough

    • Grey

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      Is that code for Joe Buck is gay? Is he? Serious question…

      • jef with 1 f says:
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        @Grey: wasn’t code but definitely possible

        • Grey

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          Haha… I think it’s the worst kept secret

        • Militant Vegans says:
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          @jef with 1 f: I know this is late but he’s married to Michelle Beisner.

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