Here’s a post that’s gonna make you wanna slap ya mama and tell her Don Magic Juan sends his best.  The other day I told you how to draft your pitchers for 2016 fantasy baseball.  I laid it out to you nice and simple (if you have a degree in “What The Hell Is Grey Talking About?” Not a PhD, mind you.  Just a BS.)  Today, we forget all that jabberwocky on the who-ha and get down to business old school-style (which means if you don’t comprehend, I will hit you over the head with a baseball bat signed by Joe Clark.)  What I’m hoping to lay out to you is who do you draft 2nd if you’ve drafted so and so first.  I think it might be helpful to go through pairings for your 5 outfielders, all your middle and corner infielders too.  I’m not sure I’ll have the time or patience to do them.  We’ll see!  Or not.  Your choice.  (Actually, my choice.)  For easy reference, the royal we will be using the top 10 for 2016 fantasy baseball and the top 20 for 2016 fantasy baseball and the beginning of the top 100 for 2016 fantasy baseball. I’m going to assume you’re in a 12 team, 5×5, MI, CI, 5 OF, 1 Utility, 1 Catcher league, similar to our Razzball Commenter Leagues. (Go join one now. Or join two.  Or three.)  Anyway, here’s some pairings for the first two rounds of 2016 fantasy baseball drafts:

1. Mike Trout – This is such a recurring theme in this post, I’m going to get it out of the way upfront.  Something I didn’t even fully realize when I was doing my rankings, but it was brought to my attention when Rudy was prepping for his LABR draft and talking to me about his strategy.  If I don’t draft a 1st baseman with my first pick, invariably I’m drafting Miggy, Abreu, Edwin, Chris Davis or Votto with the 2nd pick.  There could be situations where those guys are taken so I’ll go over other potential pairings, but if you’re drafting around 5th overall to 12th overall and Rizzo has been taken as he would be in my rankings, you’re almost 90% of the time drafting Miggy or Abreu.  If you don’t draft Goldy, Rizzo, Miggy or Abreu with one of your first two rounds and hope Edwin, Davis and Votto are there with your third pick and someone else grabs them, then you’re going to be behind the eight ball, and I don’t mean it like, “Hey, guys, I’m Charlie Sheen and I’m behind an eight ball with my nose.”  So, you draft Trout, then you’re up at the 24th pick?  Votto seems like a good bet .  If Votto’s gone and you wanna play footloose and fancy free or just play the lead in Footloose in your high school musical, I could see taking Frazier.  Of course Edwin might be there too, but, according to my rankings, he’s not.  If you read that fast, I didn’t say “he snot.”

2. Bryce Harper –  Second pick, same as the first!  After you draft Harper, then it’s Votto, Frazier, Edwin or “Oh, man, I don’t want to draft Dee Gordon or a pitcher.  Please someone help me with this pick.  Please!”  If Edwin, Votto and Frazier are gone, it means some guys from my top 20 have been passed over like Jews in a desert.  If Abreu has been passed over, then by all means, Fancy Pants.  If Springer has been passed, then do what you do, but you really can’t draft another OF in the next fifty picks after those 1st two rounds.  J.D. looks like he’s being drafted much after I have him ranked at 14th overall, so maybe he’s around.  I’d Just Dong it, but, again, it paints you into a “No outfielder” corner for a while if you go with Harper and Dong.

3. Paul Goldschmidt – Something can be ascertained from my first two blurbs.  A) I don’t know from punctuation and B) If you wanted to draft Au Shizz first and skip Trout and Harper because outfield is much deeper early on, I can almost understand it.  Au Shizz then Springer in the 2nd round sings wonderful sweet music to me.  Is that Alessia Cara?  Hmm, I hate that song, so I hope not.  Au Shizz and Justin Upton in the 2nd?  I’ll take that and keep on truckin’ to the 3rd round.  Au Shizz and Frazier?  Well, I’m not kicking that out of bed and I only have a twin bed, so space is limited.  Au Shizz and Bautista in the 2nd?  I’ll just name my team Baushizzta and be quite happy.  Basically, Au Shizz and anyone but a 1st baseman works.

4. Anthony Rizzo – Second verse, same as the third.  Shizz and Rizz are as tight as pees and poops as far as I’m concerned.  Rizzo and Upton in the 2nd?  I’d buy that for a dollar!  Rizzo and Springer in the 2nd?  I’d buy that for a peso, which according to Trump is more valuable than a dollar if we don’t do something about it.  Rizzo and anything but a 1st baseman?  Yes, please and thank you.

5. Manny Machado – Here we have a whole new wrench in our tool box.  A third baseman (or 3B/shortstop if playing in Yahoo) goes with anything, but doesn’t suddenly mean you have a 1st baseman either.  If you’re at Yahoo, I think you assume you have a shortstop, and if you assume you have a shortstop with 30-homer power, it means you can go easier on the need for a first baseman.  It’s still a position I’d prefer to square away, so Miggy or Abreu look tasty to me in the 2nd and now I’m going nom nom nom.  But if you could get Betts, Just Dong or Springer, I’d go for it and just assume you’re not taking a 1B until the Hosmer area of the draft, otherwise known as Area-Can-He-Please-Hit-20-Plus-Homers.  Since Machado gives average, power and speed, you can’t go wrong with any hitter.  Betts, Springer, Frazier and Marte offer the most well-roundedness and now you’re off to the third round with the possibility to take anything category-wise.

6. Giancarlo Stanton – Mi novio can go with anyone but an outfielder, but since he’s all power and a strong jawline, I wouldn’t be opposed to go speed-heavy with the 2nd pick.  Of course, after Altuve (who likely won’t be available, but is a fine pick to go with Gianovio, if he is), there’s only Dee Gordon and, while I don’t hate having guys from the same team, I don’t want two Marlins with my 1st two picks, so speed-heavy is out the window like when I sneak into Giancarlo’s house and have to jump out the window when he suddenly returns home early from buying protein shakes.  That takes me back to Miggy or Abreu and having no speed with my first two picks.  As they say in Paris, c’est la y’all.  (That’s Paris, Texas, by the way.)  What I could see doing is taking Marte (who should be available) or Springer and then praying you can get Pujols with your third pick.  You are treading on serious flammable waters like in Cirque du Soleil if you take two OFs in the first two rounds.  The absolute most likely scenario and best one?  Just take Votto.  He complements Stanton’s less-than-ideal average well and chucks in some power and counting stats.

7. Nolan Arenado – My last year love bug doesn’t give you speed, but he does put you in a great place to draft your 2nd pick.  Easy, actually.  Betts, Marte, McCutchen, Springer, any of them and Arenado is a loosey you find in your pocket after twelve years that somehow hasn’t gone stale.  Even Upton would work, but likely isn’t necessary since your 2nd pick should come much earlier.  This, of course, means you’ve skipped out on a 1st baseman, but you do have a lock on 3rd and maybe Chris Davis will be around for your third.  One can dream, right?  Stop thinking about Kate Upton, I didn’t mean that kind of dream.

8. Josh Donaldson – First of all (after the preceding 1300 words), you’re not getting Donaldson with the 8th pick.  It’s unlikely, at least.  If you do manage to wrangle him, you’re in a similar situation to Arenado.  Donaldson gives an eeny bit more speed, so I could see Abreu with the 2nd pick, but I’d likely go my quartrofecta (totally a word) of Betts, Marte, McCutchen or Springer as my 2nd pick with Chris Davis as my only hope at 1st in the 3rd.

9. Kris Bryant – You know who Bryant pairs with almost ideally?  The Robot Maid…The Small Wonder…Jose dot dot dot Altuve!  Bryant’s potential low average and Altuve is perfect like a buddy cop movie starring Kevin Hart and anyone, as long as it’s released in January and there’s nothing else in theaters.  Bryant and Miggy?  Another purdy pairing, because Miggy’s average staves off Bryant’s one potential downfall.  Bryant also works with McCutchen in the most sexiest of ways for the average buoying.  Bryant and Springer?  Um, not so much because they both might hit .240.  Shouldn’t.  But might.

10. Carlos Correa – Since he’s only eligible at short, it’s imperative you go with Miggy or Abreu with your next pick.  They also give you a solid foundation, in case the sophomore slump blues hits Correa.  Edwin and Votto would be my next choices for my 2nd pick with Correa.  No way would I go with The Robot Maid because then you have light power and only middle infielders.  I also wouldn’t go with a guy like Marte or McCutchen.  Just Dong, doesn’t sound that bad, but just go with an aforementioned 1st base and stop messin’.

11. Jose Altuve – The Robot Maid is an odd first pick, but, in reality, you’re kinda getting two first rounders because Altuve will be grabbed by you then you have another pick in two picks.  Marte will be there, but I wouldn’t take him.  Don’t like Small Wonder and Marte together since they’re both speed first.  Don’t even love Betts with Altuve.  Just Dong?  Just Decent, nah mean?  Miggy or Abreu?  Well, we’re back to those two guys, but you kinda have to if you take Altuve with the first pick.  If you go Just Dong, then you absolutely have to grab Chris Davis in the 3rd.  Don’t wait until Area-Can-He-Please-Hit-20-Plus-Homers with Hosmer.  Luckily (unless you wanted to draft him), Small Wonder seems likely to be gone by this point.

12. Starling Marte – Second verse, same as the Robot Maid.  Only difference here is no Just Dong.  It’s Marte and a 1st baseman with your first two picks.  Let me see my sheet for which 1st basemen might be available.  Hmm…Some guy Miggy and some guy Abreu, not sure where I’ve heard there names before.  Oh, I know, from the first 47 times I mentioned them in this post.

 
  1. Chris says:
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    Hello Grey… I’m in a 3 keeper, H2h, 12 team league. My keepers are Stanton, Arenado, and Encarnacion…In Rd 1 I have the 1st pick and the 12th, No pick in RD 2, and I have 1 picks in Rd. 3… For my first pick should and considering my keepers, should I go with: Bumm, Betts, Marte? Also, If I pick a offensive player as 1st pick, for the 12th pick, should I consider taking the best available Ace, considering I don’t have a rd 2 pick? Thanks for your input.

    • Grey

      Grey says:
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      @Chris: Betts…That’s be the 5th round with your 2nd pick so a SP is fine there

  2. Ante GALIC says:
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    Grey!

    Fantastic write-up! Worth waiting for!

    Too bad you didn’t do a pairing quiz like the pitcher one, it would have been cool.

    Otherwise, all quiet on the western front.

    Cheers,
    Ante

  3. Jhan23 says:
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    Hey Grey
    Great article as always. Keeper league with a $300 budget. Other than the odd dollar amount most things pretty standard. I’ve got 3 highly over valued keepers to consider. Pick 2 of the 3.
    Trout $62
    Miggy $61
    McCutchen $52
    I’m keeping 8 guys and have a few decent deals with the others so I figure I can afford to over pay on 2 of the 3.

    • JeF WiTh 1 F says:
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      @Jhan23: Id take Trout and Cutch

      • jhan23 says:
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        @JeF WiTh 1 F: Honestly thats what I was thinking… but after reading this article I was Considering the need for Cabrera, I thought of it like taking Trout in the first round and now needing that top first baseman. That being said though I do have Pujols if he stays healthy.

    • Grey

      Grey says:
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      @Jhan23: Be nice to know your other keepers

      • jhan23 says:
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        @Grey: Sano 3b-$2
        Pujols 1b-$15
        Lindor Ss-$10
        Buxton Of-$1
        Keuchel Sp-$3
        Cueto Sp-$7
        If I wanted to get brave and try to draft the other 15 players i need with only $100 I could keep all 3 of the previous mentioned and then only keep 1 of the 2 pitchers

      • jhan23 says:
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        @Grey: Also forgot I have to choose between Cueto at $7 or Carrasco for $10. Whats your thought on that?

        • Grey

          Grey says:
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          Carrasco

        • Robdouth says:
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          @jhan23: I personally would go with Carrasco

  4. Noam says:
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    Great article Grey, I appreciate the work!

    I’ve got a keeper question for you:
    5×5 standard H2H ESPN 12 Teams – Auction $260 budget – 3 Keepers, their value increases by $10 every year.

    Which three do you keep? This year’s keeper value is listed
    SS Bogaerts ($18)
    OF Pollock ($13)
    DH – hopefully he gets OF or 3B – Sano ($12)
    P Keuchel ($13)
    P Stroman ($16)

    Thanks!

    • JeF WiTh 1 F says:
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      @Noam: Keep the 3 Bats

    • Grey

      Grey says:
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      @Noam: Thanks! Agree with F

  5. GleamTeam_Matt says:
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    Great post, Grey.

    It’s a little bit different of a strategy for me in an auction-draft league w/ keepers. It is 7×7 (hits+walks, QS+HLD added to the standards) and you are able to keep one hitter and one pitcher at last year’s draft price.

    I am keeping Just Dong for $9 and Degrom for $10. Most of the top tier guys will end up being kept — (Trout, Harper, Goldy, Machado, Donaldson, etc…)

    Also, it should be noted that we have eliminated the MI and CI spots — so there’s 3 OF and 3 straight-up utility spots.

    What/who should I be focusing on in the early-goings?

    • Cram It says:
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      @GleamTeam_Matt: Best available bats probably. But who knows who that might be?

      • Shill Team 6 says:
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        @Cram It: How much money did you have to pay to the guy with the stripper body to pose with that belt?

        • The Great Knoche says:
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          @Shill Team 6: Looks more like a fat guy just sucking it in to me…

          • Cram It says:
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            @Shill Team 6: @The Great Knoche: Oh that’s no stripper body, but that’s flattering you think that. Knoche, you join our RCL?

            • The great knoche says:
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              @Cram It: I started one and am in one with Foh and Oaktown. Same one you’re in?

              • Cram It says:
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                @The great knoche: No, I’m in one with Pandas and did a $$$ one with Hippos. Might do another one to increase my chances of retaining my avatar.

                • J-FOH says:
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                  @Cram It: fantasy baseballers can’t have stripper bodies. You are either fat lIke me because you just sit around and eat or drink beer in front of your computer or you are malnutrition ed because you never leave your computer except for the occasional hot pocket.

                  • Cram It says:
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                    @J-FOH: You’d be surprised how much Disc Golf keeps a guy in shape.

                    • J-FOH says:
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                      @Cram It: going outside…during the day? Blah

                  • mauledbypandas says:
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                    @J-FOH: Things I am not familiar with: Outside. Pants

                    • J-FOH says:
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                      @mauledbypandas: I want the rip away kind for when Im at work with my door closed

                • Ante GALIC says:
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                  @Cram It: I’m in the one the Great Knoche is in. The same one with Oak Town Steve and JFOH! Gonna need your help all year, man. I’m toast.

                  Cheers,
                  Ante

                  • Cram It says:
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                    @Ante GALIC: You’re gonna need a great draft or you’re dead where you stand. By the time you get an answer to your “should I drop A for B” question, he’s gonna be gone. Good luck with that!

                    • The Harrow says:
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                      @Cram It: great endorsement for Razzballers to join RCL’s right there.

                  • the great knoche says:
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                    @Ante GALIC: You’ll be fine…

                • The great Knoche says:
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                  @Cram It: I apologize and amend my earlier statement. I am in the same league now with Pandas

                  • mauledbypandas says:
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                    @The great Knoche: yay! welcome aboard. We have to defend our competitive index and overall title win!

                  • Cram It says:
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                    @The great Knoche: Sweet. You know you want this belt.

                • mauledbypandas says:
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                  @Cram It: Our trophy is amazing!

  6. Chris says:
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    Hello Grey,

    In one league, it’s 7 keeper, 12 team league H2h.
    C, 1B, 2B, 3B, SS, OF, OF, OF, UTL, UTL

    Which are the best 7 keepers out of the below to use as base for the team:

    Chris Davis
    Cano
    Beltre
    Adrian Gonzalez
    McCutchen
    Lorenzo Cain
    JD Martinez
    Price
    Kluber

    I’m tempted to NOT to keep Cain and Beltre.. But I fear 3B is shallow.
    Also, I don’t have a RD 2 and RD 3 pick.

    thanks for your help!

    • JeF WiTh 1 F says:
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      @Chris: Id lose Cano and Beltre

    • Grey

      Grey says:
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      @Chris: Agree with F

  7. Mike Adamson says:
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    This is good stuff.

  8. Clint says:
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    What’s your take on how many bench spots are a proper number for a 14 team dynasty league? I have mine set at 6 right now w/8 prospect spots and we start 3 OF’s, 2 UTIL, 4 SP’s, and 2 RP’s beyond 1 spot for remaining standard positions.

    • Grey

      Grey says:
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      @Clint: I’d prefer 5 OFs, 3 bench, but 3/6 is fine

  9. Duda Want to Build a Snowman? says:
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    Super helpful, Grey!

    In a keeper league, would you trade your $8 Archer for a $17 Machado, $6 Cain sugar, or $3 Lindor?

    Interested in your thoughts on all 3 potential players (the owner of them said basically “make me a reasonable offer for Archer”).

    Thanks!

    • Duda Want to Build a Snowman? says:
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      @Duda Want to Build a Snowman?: (If I traded Archer, Stras and Darvish would be my two keeper SPs, both of whom are well-underpriced still).

      • WhiteRabbit says:
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        @Duda Want to Build a Snowman?: Machado then Cain or Lindor depending on your needs (they’re swappable). machado is first round material while the other two are 3rd or later

      • Duda Want to Build a Snowman? says:
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        @Cram It: If only I knew he would accept it (which I doubt)! What about Cain or Lindor? I’m inclined to just hold, but I feel like they get close.

        • Cram It says:
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          @Duda Want to Build a Snowman?: I’d probably hold. Depends on who else is on your team though that you’re keeping.

      • Duda Want to Build a Snowman? says:
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        @Grey: Thanks, Grey. And no to Cain or Lindor?

        • Grey

          Grey says:
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          Get Machado first

          • Duda Want to Build a Snowman? says:
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            @Grey: Sorry, I phrased that last question poorly. If my Machado offer is rejected, would you hold $8 Archer or try for one of $6 Cain or $3 Lindor?

            • Grey

              Grey says:
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              I’d hold Archer

              • Duda Want to Build a Snowman? says:
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                @Grey: Thanks – that’s my thinking too. As the newbie to the keeper league, I’m getting loads of trade offers for my cheap young guys (Archer in particular) that would make more sense in a redraft league than a keeper one.

                Got a similar offer of Matz ($8) and Hamels ($18) for my $16 Stras. Seems way too little .

                • Grey

                  Grey says:
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                  Hold

  10. 'Saul Gooood, Man says:
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    This makes me all giddy inside reading this. The pitching pairing is fantastic, but we all love thinking about our duo of bats in the early rounds. I’m mostly hoping for Goldy/Rizzo or Manny with one of those beautiful OF’s.

    Side note – I missed the opener of Saul live this week, I will not allow that to happen again this season.

    • Grey

      Grey says:
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      @‘Saul Gooood, Man: I haven’t watched BCS yet since I was flying yesterday…Gonna watch tonight hopefully, but Cougs might have plans

  11. Pugs & Slugs says:
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    Hi Grey!
    Thanks for all the amazing write-ups thus far this preseason!

    I posted a little late last night and didn’t get a response, so I’ll try again.

    My league’s auction is still 5 weeks away, but it’s time to start see if my planning is going in a good direction.

    NL-Only H2H Auction ($280 Cap) 5×5 with OBP instead of AVG. I already have GOLDY (40-44), Pollock (21-24), Franco (2), Arrieta (27) and Cole (16). I have Ziegler (1), but Arrieta will go for 35-40 and Ziegler is no stud/guaranty. Prices for GOLDY and POLLOCK aren’t locked till the week before the draft.

    I don’t have a lot of $ designated for pitching as hitting is a premium this year. I’m thinking of going for one of: Raisel, Shark, GIO, Chen, or Hendricks, and finish my last to spots with two of: Nelson, Nola, DeSclafani, and Eickhoff.

    Our league tends to pay $30+ for the top 10 SPs and $20-30 for the next 10-15 guys. I’m not even sure I can get Raisel or Sammy below $25, but it’s all dependent upon when they are thrown out. I don’t want to pay $20 or more for a third pitcher when I have two Aces.

    My remaining pitchers will consist of one of the following Closers: Kenley, Rosenthal, Familia, Rondon, and round up my RP with 3 good MRs with save opps.

    I feel this would be a very complete staff, but always appreciate your thoughts and suggestions.

    • Grey

      Grey says:
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      @Pugs & Slugs: I wouldn’t pay more than $20 for any other SP if I had Arreita and Cole…Fill your staff with $10-$20 SPs

      • Pugs & Slugs says:
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        @Grey: Thanks! I think I’d be fine too! Most likely though, I won’t have a shot at Raisel, Sammy, or GIO.

        As for my offense, would you rather have:
        A) One of Heyward/Cespedes/Soler, one of Piscotty/Conforto/Santana, and Parra – 3 players for around $75

        B) Piscotty, Conforto, Santana and Inciarte – 4 players for around $80

        I lean towards A with either Heyward or Cespedes because of experience, but B has some good young talent that could put up some great stats.

        • Grey

          Grey says:
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          A

          • Pugs & Slugs says:
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            @Grey: Thanks! I’m hoping Heyward stays in the low 30s. I forgot that Braun will be available. Last year he went for $36, but do you think that price is worth the risk? I know he’ll most likely stay with the team, but it’s his health I’m worried about.

            • Grey

              Grey says:
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              I don’t think he’s worth $36

  12. Adam says:
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    Hey Grey. I’m in a 10 team dynasty league and am considering a trade offer. I give Correa/Sano and I get Bryant/Lindor. Thoughts? Part of me kind of feels it’s a wash, but wanted your opinion.

    • WhiteRabbit says:
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      @Adam: close but Correa side has more upside if Sano ever figures out how to hit a breaking ball and doesn’t hit .210-.230. Bryant side is slightly safer play but like you said – close/wash

    • Grey

      Grey says:
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      @Adam: I’d want Correa in a dynasty, it is close as Rabbit said

      • CMUTimmah says:
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        @Grey: Always side with the best player in the deal when it’s close… Correa side.

  13. Digger Phelps says:
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    Excellent work, as always sir. I’m keeping Correa and Arenado and have the 11th pick in a 12 teamer. With keepers taken out, I’m probably looking at mookie, miggy, encarn, Frazier, votto being available. Who would you target first, then look to pair second? Go mookie then one of the 1B or is that too light on power? We have 2 util spots and no CI, and is also 6×6 with ops if that matters. Thanks in advance, you’re a good man.

    • Grey

      Grey says:
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      @Digger Phelps: Thanks! I’d lean Mookie and Edwin…Edwin b/c more power than Miggy and Votto

  14. Ruben says:
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    League rules require me to take an unkept pitcher. Options, in order of your ranks, are: price, Cole, syndergaard, stras, carrasco

    Does a keeper league move anyone up or down?

    • Grey

      Grey says:
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      @Ruben: Looking for a messy pitcher? I’d take Colon, he’s disheveled! Oh, unkept! I’d go Cole, Noah, Stras

      • Ruben says:
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        @Grey: Lol this is easily the best response you’ve ever given me!! Muchos gracias to my favorite mustache

        • Grey

          Grey says:
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          Ha, no problem

  15. Bryce Krispie Treats says:
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    I have these positions filled with my keepers…

    1 – Goldy – $33
    3 – Arenado – $29
    OF – Harper – $19
    OF – Marte – $10
    SP – Arrieta – $4

    Who would you target after these guys? $250 Budget, so $155 Remaining. Thanks!

    • Bryce Krispie Treats says:
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      @Bryce Krispie Treats:

      Oh, and Trout, Rizzo, Altuve, Correa, Donaldson, Bryant, and Machado will all be kept by other teams, so they wont be available.

  16. Jeff says:
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    I have Trout and Votto as keepers. Here’s the issue that I see with this pairing.

    You’ve got Trout, who is a 35-40 HR guy with elite OBP, elite runs and very good but not elite RBI. Really, he’s perfect.

    Then you’ve got Votto who will produce elite OBP, great runs but horrible RBI for your starting 1B.

    So when you are filling out your team, you are going to need to catch up in a major way in RBI. But how do you do that when your primary source for RBI (1b) is a huge liability and your elite power hitter (Trout) is unlikely to generate elite RBI?

    I guess my question is, what kind of hitters would you pair with these two later in the draft?

    • Grey

      Grey says:
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      @Jeff: I’d be more concerned with lack of SBs than RBIs… RBIs are hard to account for… Abreu had 100 last year for a terrible offense

  17. Dr. Kenneth Noisewater says:
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    If I take Salvador Perez in the first, should I take Brad Boxberger in the second? That’s just logic.

    • Grey

      Grey says:
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      @Dr. Kenneth Noisewater: I’d actually go Dioner in the 2nd, you should fill out your catcher slots first, all six of them (including UTIL and bench)

      • Dr. Kenneth Noisewater says:
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        THANKS! And that’s why you’re the best in the biz! I might have to use this strategy in my 6 catcher league too.

        • Grey

          Grey says:
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          Shame Schwarber has OF eligibility since you don’t have outfielders in that league

          • Dr. Kenneth Noisewater says:
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            I know. It is very grit heavy and a lack-of-skill centric league. I’m still holding onto David Eckstein just in case.

            • Grey

              Grey says:
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              I like Jake Fox there with his moniker “Unathletic like a Fox!”

              • Dr. Kenneth Noisewater says:
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                David Wells just cancelled his “First Overall” banner and balloons order.

                • Grey

                  Grey says:
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                  I like Wells, but I’m gonna go Vin Mazzaro

                  • Dr. Kenneth Noisewater says:
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                    Kent Hrbek was rocking that fierce dad look.

                    • Grey

                      Grey says:
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                      Speaking of which, when will there be a player with the name Jorts? Feels overdue… Though, there’s likely a Jorts in the NHL already

                    • Dr. Kenneth Noisewater says:
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                      Montreal Expos Larry Walker popped in my head. Maybe it is the Canadian angle.

                    • Grey

                      Grey says:
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                      Expos Vlad wore serious jorts

                    • Dr. Kenneth Noisewater says:
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                      Jorts and spousal abuse make a natural pairing.

                    • Grey

                      Grey says:
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                      Aroldis in jorts? Perfect!

  18. Moscowitz says:
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    A or B?

    A: Cabrera, JD, Britton (or Giles)
    B: Bryant, Fielder, Ramos

    Thanks

    • Grey

      Grey says:
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      A with Giles, it’s fairish

  19. The great knoche says:
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    Anyone going to be doing a SPARP eligibility article or ranking list?

    • Grey

      Grey says:
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      I think Rudy did that last year, in his LABR recap post, you should ask him

  20. Dusty says:
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    Great article… H2H Yahoo league, I’m keeping Machado, C. Davis and Cespedes. And I’m picking 10th in a 12 team league. I could be looking at a decision between J.D. or Springer, who I hear are not being kept by their owners. I could also be looking at a Cole, Harvey, Carrasco or Syndergard.

    Thinking one more big bat, and then an arm on the way back as lots of SPs are being kept or go early in our drafts. With my keepers, who do you prefer of the above group? I know your rankings say J.D., and bat over arm. With J.D., I probably lead my league in HRs, and we include total bases as a 6th category. Any input appreciated. Thanks!

    • Grey

      Grey says:
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      I’d take JD then Springer

      • Dusty says:
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        @Grey: Thanks! JD with first pick, Springer with second if available, and screw pitching?!

        • Grey

          Grey says:
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          Screw pitching with your 1st two picks, yes

  21. Wilson says:
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    I have Stanton, JD, J Upton, Bautista for OF and your suggestion is to trade Bautista away due to age. And I have Cole and Cueto for SP only.. so I know I need a starter, especially it’s a QS & W league.

    Trade Bautista for Bum if I need a starter, is it ok? Thoughts appreciated.

    • Grey

      Grey says:
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      Works for me

  22. The Dude says:
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    11 Team 5×5 (+OBP -AVG)(+QS -W) Roto auction keeper, keep 5:

    Goldschmidt $42
    Miggy $55
    Stanton $51
    Altuve $21
    Upton $27
    Sale $35
    Carrasco $20
    Xander $10
    Franco $10

    Thanks!

    • Grey

      Grey says:
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      Goldschmidt $42
      Franco
      Sale
      Altuve $21
      Upton $27

      • The Dude says:
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        @Grey: I’m surprised you went for Sale. I t think he’s about at his draft value for our league, but figured you would assume that pitching depth would outweigh his price tag.

        Also somewhat surprised about going Franco over Xander. You have Xander ranked just ahead of Franco and he’s a better OBP guy. That one is probably splitting hairs though, and I can already hear (visualize?) your reply “that works”.

        Anywho – thanks!

        • Grey

          Grey says:
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          Yeah, exactly…Bogaerts over Franco works for me, I think Franco’s ceiling is higher in a keeper

  23. Nick says:
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    Have enjoyed reading your material everyday again this season. Won my 6×6 OPS last year largely from your advice.

    Keeper question, 6×6 OPS. 5 keepers, count as first 5 rounds. Keeping Harper, Rizzo, and Arenado. Also have DeGrom and Gerrit Cole, keep both? Could probably try to flip one for Springer/Dong, maybe even Marte, but considering just keeping both and taking a lot of upside guys mid to late.

    • Grey

      Grey says:
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      Thanks! Keeping them is fine, prefer to flip Cole for Dong or Springer or Marte

  24. Bobbo says:
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    I’m in one of those simple keeper leagues where we keep 4 players, no salaries, no associated pick, no limited number of years you can hang onto the player, just keep four players period.

    Here’s my current list of keepers:

    Rizzo
    Arenado
    Cespedes
    Lindor

    but I’m also looking at Adam Jones or Carlos Carrasco. I think I’ve got it right with the 4 I listed. Agree?

    • Grey

      Grey says:
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      You have the right 4

  25. Mike says:
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    Dynasty league trade.

    Abreu(1) for Syndergaard (11). All things being equal.. who do you want?

    • Grey

      Grey says:
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      Noah

  26. Big Magoo

    Big Magoo says:
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    This is the first year that I can ever remember thinking that going 1B/1B in the first two rounds might not be a terrible idea. Outside of Duda (which is mostly due to value), I’m not really enamored with the 1B options outside of the top 7 guys. The CI options later on aren’t all that appealing. There are a few aging players in decline (A-Gon, Pujols) and a bunch of guys who aren’t locks to reach 20 homers (Hosmer, Freeman, Belt). Fielder only started 18 games at 1B, so he might not even be eligible there depending on league format. Something like Goldy/Rizzo + Abreu/EE/Davis might not be a bad start.

    • Grey

      Grey says:
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      You just wanted to work Duda into a comment, didn’t you? Yeah, I don’t agree with the 1B/1B…You can always take 3B for CI and don’t love thinking about filling a UTIL that early

      • Big Magoo

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        @Grey: Duda! It depends on your individual player evaluations, but going 1B/1B would mean that you miss on the top 4 3B options as well as players like Betts and Altuve. I don’t value Frazier as a 2nd/early 3rd rounder and I’m lower on Marte than you are.

        Just saying not to pass on a player like Abreu if he’s the top player on your board because you’re afraid of filling your CI slot early. Then you wouldn’t have to worry about the first basemen that I mentioned above, and can focus on OF and SP in that area of the draft. Would just have to grab a 2nd or 3rd tier third baseman later on. Wouldn’t clog up your utility slot either.

        • Grey

          Grey says:
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          You don’t like Frazier because…?

          • Big Magoo

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            @Grey: It’s not that I don’t like him. I just don’t have him in my top 30. Neutral average, 30 homers, 10 steals or so, 85-90 rbis, 80-85 runs. That’s plenty good.

            But he’s another year older and has to adjust to a new league and unfamiliar pitchers. I love Abreu, but he’s not the OBP player that Votto is, and LaRoche is an inferior hitter to Bruce at this point in his career. I don’t see his counting stats improving. Think he’s about the 40th best fantasy player.

            • Grey

              Grey says:
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              So Abreu gets a two round boost due to 10 RBIs and .015 on average but ten less steals?

              • Big Magoo

                Big Magoo says:
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                @Grey: A 20 pick boost due to -10 steals, +20 RBIs, and +.04 avg? Yes. I have him hitting 4 more homers too.

                • Grey

                  Grey says:
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                  .04 looks like where we have the biggest disagreement… Didn’t know you were such an average hound…

                  • Big Magoo

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                    @Grey: I’m not necessarily. But high avg power hitters are rare. Gives you more flexibility later in a draft.

                    Abreu has a .303 career avg and has hit at least .290 in each of his two MLB seasons. Frazier hit .255, .273, and .234 in his last three years, including .220 in the 2nd half last season. .290 hitter vs a .250 hitter. 40 points. Do you see Abreu as a .270 hitter or something?

                    • Grey

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                      Nah, .255 vs. .295… I have them 93/29/105/.296/1 86/30/98/.250/14 — The +13 SBs have me keeping Frazier in the 2nd/3rd round and you have him in the 4th, so we’re really not that far away

                  • Big Magoo

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                    @Grey: The only disagreement average-wise then is that I have them closer to a .04 avg difference and you project a .046 difference. You’re confusing me!

                    The only real differences are that I have Frazier with a few less RBIs and SBs (the White Sox don’t run as much as the Reds, and Frazier’s SB% isn’t good), and Abreu with 5 more homers. Yeah, not too far off…

                    • Grey

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                      I was commenting on my phone at first and wrote .015, meant .045… I do think I might own Frazier, so hoping he’s closer to .260 than .245… I’m not convinced that will be the case though, which is why I projected him for .250

  27. marti says:
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    In an N/L only league, what players do you think have a chance of getting traded this year. Give me 3 names

    • Knucks says:
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      @marti: @marti: maybe puig, brandon phillips, lucroy off the top off my head…

    • Grey

      Grey says:
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      CarGonzalez, Braun, Wilmer Flores

  28. Duda Want to Build a Snowman? says:
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    A or B in a keeper league?

    Team A Gets: Strasburg ($16) and Hosmer ($14)
    Team B Gets: Matz ($8) and Just Dong ($7)

    Is it a fair trade?

    • Grey

      Grey says:
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      B

      • Duda Want to Build a Snowman? says:
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        @Grey: Still B if he comes back with Matz ($8) and Heyward ($24)? Thanks!

        • Grey

          Grey says:
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          Tell me the whole trade

          • Duda Want to Build a Snowman? says:
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            @Grey: He rejected the Matz/Dong offer. He’s now proposing:

            My Stras ($16) and Hosmer ($14) for his Matz ($8) and Heyward ($24). Seems like a hold to me…

            • Grey

              Grey says:
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              Hold

              • Duda Want to Build a Snowman? says:
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                @Grey: Thanks!

                • Grey

                  Grey says:
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                  No problem

  29. Walt says:
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    Best dynasty keeper- Taillon, Eickhoff or Brad Zimmer. 5c5 roto 16 team league

    • Grey

      Grey says:
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      Taillon

  30. Oranje says:
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    Coming back with Harper, Stanton, Machado, Odor, Cain, Heyward, A. Russell, Lester and Arrieta. I have no picks in my draft until round 3 and then round 5…my other picks are scattered through the first 10 rounds. Regardless of who is available, any recommendations as to which categories/positions I should target given who I have coming back? Thanks as always.

    • Grey

      Grey says:
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      A 1B and an MI

  31. Maximumxpower says:
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    So in my keeper league iv’e done well the last couple years. Five keepers who do I leave out?
    Mike Trout, Giancarlo Stanton, Nolan Arenado, Carlos Correa, Jose Abreu, or Dee Gordon. obp league also

    • knucks says:
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      @Maximumxpower: SAGNOF, def toss gordon back. Not gonna help much with OBP either anyway.

      • knucks says:
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        @knucks: also, you have 4 first round bats here and the #4 overall 1B (age 29). Just wondering who you were considering leaving out, over gordon?

        • Maximumxpower says:
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          @knucks: Yeah figured Gordon but considered Abreu. Gonna miss those steals.

          • knucks says:
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            @Maximumxpower: Don’t worry about those steals. At all. Just grab Deshields a few rounds in. Grey has him projected for only ten legs less than Flash Jr (49 vs. 59). Your team is stacked. You can prob draft 3 straight pitchers and Deshields after that and be sitting pretty.

          • Cram It says:
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            @Maximumxpower: Steals easier to come by than 30/100

    • Grey

      Grey says:
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      Gordon

  32. Alan says:
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    12 Team mixed league. Redraft. THoughts on trading overall pick #5 for:

    picks 17 and 48

    OR

    picks 25, 49 and 120ish.

    • Cram It says:
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      @Alan: No

    • Grey

      Grey says:
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      Nope

  33. Baseball420 says:
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    If you have trout and rizzo as keepers who are you looking to draft in the first round, pick 9/10?

    • Grey

      Grey says:
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      How deep is the league?

  34. spit cup says:
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    If I’m starting with a $50 bryce harper – would you be more inclined to target Rizzo or Altuve? Part of me wants to go hard after both and go for values from there on out

    • Grey

      Grey says:
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      Rizzo

  35. I'mgettingsomeHeadley says:
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    Grey,

    Thanks again for all you do.
    Which side in a keeper?
    Rendon and B.Miller or Forsythe or (me)
    Andrus and Odor. The guy needs Rendon at 3b.
    Assuming Odor, if I throw in Mazama and he adds Domingo is that fair

    • Grey

      Grey says:
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      No problem… You have more ors than a kayak… Prolly Odor side

      • I'mgettingsomeHeadley says:
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        @Grey: Thanks. Spellcheck makes thangs funny.

        • Grey

          Grey says:
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          Ha, no problem

  36. quimmy says:
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    Grey, I got offered the following 2 packages for Giancarlo (2nd round) in my keeper league where we lose the draft pick for the rd the player was drafted:

    Archer (10) and Blackmon (25)

    CarGo (3), Hamels (4) and HanRam (5)

    In order to trade for either package I would have to release EllsBo (7) and/or Kipnis (8) to free agency.

    Thoughts?

    • Grey

      Grey says:
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      Hold Giancarlo

      • quimmy says:
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        @Grey: TY sir

        • Grey

          Grey says:
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          NP

      • mauledbypandas says:
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        @Grey: not in the way that you would like to though, right?

        • Grey

          Grey says:
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          Hehe

  37. Jb says:
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    Can’t remember if you do an auction strategy post?

    • Grey

      Grey says:
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      I do

  38. CadeWTM says:
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    As always, love the site and love all the work you guys put into this.

    I know most of what you have in these strategies are for redraft leagues, and I totally agree with not boxing yourself into a corner by drafting 2 OF early, but I have the fortunate luck of having Harper and Stanton as my first 2 picks as my keepers (I know, I have to change my underpants every time I think about them). I also have the option of keeping my third OF with either Polanco in the 15th or Eaton in the 20th. Eaton presents better value but I agree with you and think that Polanco is going to be a monster this year so leaning him.

    Do you think it’s crazy to keep 3 OF? I know it paints me into a box, but I’m loving the idea of those 3 and then just focusing solely on SP and the more talent scarce positions early in the draft.

    • Grey

      Grey says:
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      Not crazy if the value is there and it sounds like it is… I’d go Polanco

  39. Duda Want to Build a Snowman? says:
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    Hey Grey – got a very interesting offer on that Archer keeper trade. What do you think?

    I give: Archer ($8) and Abreu ($25)

    I get: Rizzo ($30), Liriano ($11), and Carlos Gomez ($14)

    Keepers only increase $3 every year, so while Rizzo ain’t cheap, he’s got years of good control, and is a lot cheaper than the $55 Miggy, $50 Cutch, and $41 Bum people have.
    Liriano doesn’t seem THAT much worse than Archer, and Gomez I’m not a fan of, but he’s only 1 season removed from being a first rounder (if he sucks, I can lose him next year). What do you think?

    • Grey

      Grey says:
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      Hold

  40. Adult coloring book says:
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    I’m in a 10 team keeper league.
    We keep 10 guys and have the option to keep an 11th or 12th, which makes us lose those draft picks .

    Who would you keep out of the following ?

    C – posey
    1b – encarcion
    2b – odor
    3b – rendon, longoria, Franco, longoria
    Ss – Desmond
    Of – Bautista, hey ward, Dickerson, Eaton, solver
    P – sale, Ross, matz, Gonzalez

    Thanks

    • Grey

      Grey says:
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      Not Gonzalez, Dickerson, Desmond, Longoria

  41. David says:
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    I know how much you like Polanco. Would you keep him in a keeper league, 12 team 6×6 with OBP replacing avg and slg being the 6th, over Pollack? I was thinking long term. Thanks.

  42. Andrew Grant says:
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    Appreciate all the work and advice. I have two keepers left to choose, and I’m really torn. 8 teams league. Here are the options and would love some advice.
    Cain in the 19th
    Bogaerts in the 18th
    Buxton in the 19th
    Giolito in the 19th
    Blackmon in the 12th
    Severino in the 19th
    Odor in the 19th

  43. Regan says:
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    Any idea where the Yanks will bat Castro this season? I’m thinking 8 but wondering if he could be a 2? That would be very nice, I like the value this year and the dual elig. Yahoo ADP of 212. He batted .353/.374/.594 in 44 games after moving to second base. If i miss out on Odor that might be backup plan A.

  44. Chuzwozza says:
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    First up – thanks for all the superb work in draft preparation! Always a joy to see this site warm up as spring training looms.

    Quick question. For Rizzo (and to a lesser extent Goldy), you mention also grabbing Upton or Springer. Is there any reason not to look for Marte who is ranked fairly highly by your good self? Going by mocks on Yahoo, it looks like Rizzo and Marte would be quite common to get. (I do realise you say grab anyone who isn’t an 1B but just checking whether there’s anyone to be avoided).

    Thanks in advance!

  45. #BlackmonMatters says:
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    Hey Grey,

    I am in a keeper auction league, but we start a C, 1B, 2B, 3B, SS, 3 OF and 2 UTIL.
    I was wondering if the auction values you have up would have to be increased because we start less people than the typical league (1 MI, 1 CI, 5OF)? And if so with what kind of a factor? Like 1.1 or 1.2? So giancarlo is worth 47 or 52 rather than the 43 you have him at currently?

    Finally who should I keep? Pick 3… Blackmon for 15, Harper for 32, Arenado for 36, and Sano for 4.

    Thanks!

  46. OJ Simpson says:
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    22 rounds, I’m missing my 4th, 10th, 11th and 15th rd picks via trades.
    we’re in a 5×5 OBS & QS league, 1 Util, and we keep 6.
    Positions I need: C, 1B, SS, probably OF, definitely Pitching.

    keep 6;
    arrenado 2nd rd val
    blackmon 6th rd val
    sano 22nd rd val
    mfranco 22nd rd val
    odor 21 rd val
    nola 21 rd val
    buxton 19th rd val

    Questions:
    1)Do I sacrifice Arrenado at 2nd round value and keep nola?
    2)Do I dare draft pitching early?
    3)Who is most expendable, and what would be a fair return?

    All these rankings are giving me anxiety. i love it though, keep it up !

  47. imfeklar says:
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    16 team mixed 5×5 roto with OBP, not average. Can keep up to 16. Should I keep these guys or through back? Cobb, K. Morales, J Perralta, Iwakuma, Smyly, Inciarte

    Keeping Bryant, Schwarber, Rendon, Marte, Harvey, S. Gray. C. Seager

  48. Gg says:
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    Pair Bryce Harper with votto or Abreu?

  49. Clint says:
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    In my h2h points dynasty 14 teamer, I was just granted #2 pick overall by the computer gods and was wondering if any of the ‘which of the top 3 should you take’ discussions change in that format considering the 4-5yr age difference between Au Shizz & Trout/Harper. I presumed not but the more I look at it, it feels like the later two should be ahead of him if they’re still available for that reason?

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