Joakim Soria went from being a $12 Salad to a Donkeycorn to a Brain Freeze back to a Donkeycorn to off the list completely in 12 short months.  And if this is the first post you’ve ever read at Razzball, I probably lost you by the eighth word.  Later!  In Soria’s wake is Broxton and Holland, who together can be called Hamsterdam.  In other “Saves give me serious agita” news is Ryan Madson.  He went from a donkeycorn to off the list.  Donkeycorns are dropping like flies!  Then there’s Drew Storen.  He was touch ‘n go there for a day or two… Okay, for about a week or two, but it seems like he could be okay.  Yet, he’s starting the year on the DL.  Terrific.  Since our last Closer Look, Beane told us Balfour got the closer job in Oakland and Chris Perez got the job back from Pestano, which has the Italian American Anti-Defamation League up in arms, but that’s the norm for them since they talk with their hands.  Finally, Carlos Marmol had some nerve issues with his hand that many Razzball commenters opined was from too much internet porn surfing.  Sounds like someone is empathizing.  Anyway, here’s all the closers for 2012 fantasy baseball:

$12 Salads

You know that restaurant your girlfriend/wife/what-have-you likes to go to that charges, like, $12 for a salad? Every time you go there, you have a thoroughly solid meal. No complaints, except you just paid $12 for a salad when you could’ve went to McDonald’s and stuffed you and your woman for ten schmools and had $2 in quarters left over to make the hotel bed vibrate. These closers are $12 salads.

1. Craig Kimbrel (Jonny Venters, Kris Medlen)
2. John Axford (Francisco Rodriguez)
3. Mariano Rivera (+1) (David Robertson, Rafael Soriano)
4. Jonathon Papelbon (+1) (Antonio Bastardo, Chad Qualls)
5. Jose Valverde (+1) (Joaquin Benoit, Octavio Dotel)

Donkeycorns

Imagine you’re following a donkey, who’s wearing a wool cap, through a desert for 1700 miles. Why are you following a donkey? Because he promises you something wonderful and you just need to trust him. Does the donkey talk? Yes. Yes, he does talk. So when you and the donkey in the wool cap arrive at his destination, he removes his the wool cap to reveal a horn. The donkey is a unicorn and his gift to you for your trust is saves. These closers are Donkeycorns.

6. J.J. Putz (+1) (David Hernandez, Takashi Saito)
7. Heath Bell (+1) (Steve Cishek, Juan Leo Carlos Nunez Oviedo)
8. Huston Street (+6) (Luke Gregerson, Andrew Cashner)
9. Jason Motte (+4) (Fernando Salas, Eduardo Sanchez)
10. Brian Wilson (-4) (Santiago Casilla, Sergio Romo)
11. Joel Hanrahan (Evan Meek, Chris Resop)
12. Andrew Bailey (+4) (Mark Melancon, Daniel Bard)
13. Sergio Santos (+3) (Francisco Cordero)
14. Kyle Farnsworth (+4) (Joel Peralta, Jake McGee)
15. Carlos Marmol (-6) (Kerry Wood, Rafael Dollis)
16.
Jordan Walden (+1) (Scott Downs, Rich Thompson)
17. Frank Francisco (+3) (Jon Rauch, Ramon Ramirez)
18. Brandon League (+6) (Tom Wilhelmsen, George Sherrill)

Brain Freeze

I’m going on a picnic and I’m bringing apples, bananas and Matt Capps– Wait, he just gave up 12 earned runs and hit Valencia in the head with a pickoff throw. Brain freeze! Make it stop! Use the following closers at your own risk.

19. Rafael Betancourt (+2) (Rex Brothers)
20. Javy Guerra
(-1) (Kenley Jansen, Matt Guerrier)
21.
Grant Balfour (+8) (Brian Fuentes, Faustino De Los Santos)
22.
Sean Marshall (-10) (Nick Masset, Aroldis Chapman)
23. Joe Nathan
(Mike Adams, Alexi Ogando)
24. Brett Myers (+2) (Wilton Lopez, David Carpenter, Brandon Lyon)
25. Chris Perez (+4) (Vinnie Pestano, Tony Sipp)
26. Jim Johnson (Kevin Gregg, Matt Lindstrom)
27. Matt Thornton (-3) (Jesse Crain, Addison Reed, Will Ohman, Hector Santiago)
28. Matt Capps (Glen Perkins, Jared Burton)
29. Greg Holland/Jonathan Broxton (-19) (Aaron Crow)
30. Brad Lidge/Henry Rodriguez (-27) (Drew Storen, Tyler Clippard, Mitt Romney)

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Luke
10 years ago

Grey, you da man. Help me with a trade offer…

11 team 5X5 roto, obp instead of avg QS instead of wins.

Player one is extremely short on obp and has kinsler and cano. Player 2 is projected to win obp fairly easily but is starting jemile weeks at 2b (kelly johnson is on the FA wire). Player 1 gives up kinsler and greinke for Votto and Worley.

Thoughts?

Skinfanjon
Skinfanjon
10 years ago

I don’t know what it is about the position that turns me off, but I absolutely hate tracking bullpens and closers. Perhaps it’s because of the fungible nature of the position, but I find it to be a most tedious process.

Thank you for eliminating the legwork for me. I’ve followed these columns for several years and while injuries pop up and circumstances change, I place a great deal of value on the information you put forth here. This is the best and most useful thing about you site, in my opinion.

Patrick
Patrick
10 years ago

I read this every year and still laugh

Thanks

Martin
Martin
10 years ago

@grey- Hey, I just drafted in my 12 team mixed H2H 6X6 league (OPS, K/bb). What do you think?

C-Jarod Saltalamachia
1B- Prince
2B- Hill
3B- Sandoval
SS-Han Ram
OF- Upton
OF- Choo
OF- Crawford
Util- Bourjos
Util- Butler
Bench- Belt
Bench- J.Montero (until he gets C eligibility)

SP-Greinke
SP- Madison Bum
SP- J.Zimm
SP- Mccarthy
SP- Peavy
SP- Worley
RP- Motte
RP- Marshall
RP- Guerra

Oxford Comma
Oxford Comma
10 years ago

Hi Grey, big fan.

Drafted last night. 10 team mixed league with 5 x 5 scoring using OPS instead of avg:

Oxford Commas
1. (5) Ryan Braun
(Mil – OF)
2. (16) Ian Kinsler
(Tex – 2B)
3. (25) Andrew McCutchen
(Pit – OF)
4. (36) Pablo Sandoval
(SF – 1B,3B)
5. (45) Dan Haren
(LAA – SP)
6. (56) Kevin Youkilis
(Bos – 1B,3B)
7. (65) Madison Bumgarner
(SF – SP)
8. (76) Brian McCann
(Atl – C)
9. (85) Yu Darvish
(Tex – SP)
10. (96) Daniel Hudson
(Ari – SP)
11. (105) Josh Johnson
(Mia – SP)
12. (116) Chris Young
(Ari – OF)
13. (125) Ike Davis
(NYM – 1B)
14. (136) Jesus Montero
(Sea – Util)
15. (145) Billy Butler
(KC – 1B)
16. (156) J.J. Hardy
(Bal – SS)
17. (165) Melky Cabrera
(SF – OF)
18. (176) Adam Lind
(Tor – 1B)
19. (185) Colby Rasmus
(Tor – OF)
20. (196) Gaby Sanchez
(Mia – 1B)
21. (205) Joakim Soria
(KC – RP)
22. (216) Fernando Salas
(StL – RP)

Traded McCutcheon for Hanley.

Need RPs. What do I do via trade or waivers?

TheSoloRush
TheSoloRush
10 years ago

@Grey (and all)

Got offered Felix Hernandez and Hanley Ramirez for Tulo.

I’m tempted but hate to give up Tulo and am pretty comfortable with my pitching already (Gallardo, MadBum, J-Zimm, Scherzer, Garcia, Minor). Also either Felix or H-Ram could be kept next year, Tulo could not.

Is this deal too good to pass up?

Aaron
Aaron
10 years ago

Which do you like better Tim Stauffer or Lance Lynn?

Steve
Steve
10 years ago

I keep getting excited because I have McCarthy on three teams. Then I remember the Oakland offense and the pitcher he’s going against…

Simply Fred
Simply Fred
Reply to  Steve
10 years ago

@Steve, sit him.

ThE sHiT
ThE sHiT
10 years ago

@Grey: Here are the results of my first ever RCL draft (and roto league).

C Avila
1B Prince
2B Kelly Johnson
3B Lawrie
SS Cozart
MI Kipnis
CI Lind
OF CarGo
OF Cruz
OF BJ
OF Ethier
OF Carp
UTIL Chris Davis

SP Gallardo
SP Latos
SP Anibal
SP Morrow
SP Minor
SP Stauffer
SP Peavy
SP Niese
RP Guerra
RP Johnson
RP Bard
SP Carpenter

The last two were auto picks. I feel I’m light in saves and wonky on avg. What say you?

tHe sHiT
tHe sHiT
Reply to  Grey
10 years ago

@Grey, I went on autodraft because my $ league started drafting and it was tough for me do both effectively. Ill post the results from the second draft tomorrow. Ill be a vulture on the wire for saves.

Steve
Steve
10 years ago

Magic Johnson’s crew buying the Dodgers for $2 billion. McCourt bought the team in ’04 for $430 million.

Crikey.

Wilsonian
Wilsonian
Reply to  Steve
10 years ago

@Steve, that’s an absolutely ridiculously insane amount of money.

chata
chata
Reply to  Steve
10 years ago

@Steve,

hope they have an antiseptic spray , when they wipe down the seats .

too soon ?

captainpyper
captainpyper
10 years ago

i have 6 brain freezes. my buddy lost soria AND madson. should i trade two brain freezes for brandon beachy?

#1contenda
#1contenda
10 years ago

yo grey man,
i herd reimold leading off son. that lookin true? someone above talking andino.

respeckt.

barker
barker
10 years ago

20 team keeper league keep 9
separate lf cf rf slots 1 util 5 rp slots

fielder kemp lawrie verlander gallardo pineda are the six i plan to keep

other possibilities pick 3

matt moore luebke sergio santos cuddyer kenley jansen corey hart beltran lind

i have a trade of kershaw + 1 player picked after the 15th rd for gallardo and pineda which i think i have to do — so i must keep pineda

barker
barker
Reply to  Grey
10 years ago

@Grey, moore was a definite just wanted to see your thoughts with the way you have been bashing him : ) but really beltran and lind didnt see that coming

i was thinking moore cuddyer and santos so i could fill 2b and not have to burn one of my first picks on a closer or get two closers early and be done with it ( ie keep santos and pick a closer early) i pick late or last in the first rd so i get a wrap around pick

luebke is interesting and i might do him but my pitching should be set with verlander kershaw moore and possibly santos

it really stinks i cant do trades in this league preseason so i could get rid of 2 keepers to get kershaw and keep more offense

Trevor
Tggq21
10 years ago

Grey, my new team is hurting on WHIP. I’m kinda stressing about it. Would you drop j. Sanchez for Lilly to help out the WHIP? 12 team h2h

Eric
Eric
10 years ago

I’m in a salary cap league where we can only make 6 moves all year, would u rather have Marshall or Guerra? Even though Dusty hasn’t made up his mind I’m leaning Marshall. I’m worried about Jansen taking over the closer role in LA.

Thanks for all the interesting articles and work yourself and the rest of the guys put in all year!

Terrence Mann
Terrence Mann
10 years ago

Mostly want upside. Stupid fat sausage fingers!

Terrence Mann
Terrence Mann
10 years ago

Please rank: De Aza, Lahair, Presley, Thames. Mostly wantnt

Terrence Mann
Terrence Mann
Reply to  Grey
10 years ago

@Grey, Gotcha. Thanks. Is it a good idea to own AP everywhere or should I mix it up a bit?

EDUB
EDUB
10 years ago

Looking for a SP flyer in my 5×5 mixed. Sale or Pomeranz?

Side
Side
10 years ago

Any opinion on Andino? Leading off & qualifies @ 2b, SS& 3b. Good fill in/bench guy in deep league?

AnotherFalstaff
AnotherFalstaff
10 years ago

@Grey – Guy just offered me Carp for Sale. I can DL Carp and pickup Baker/Leake/Chapman or Balfour. Is Carp cooked? Thanks!

elwood blues
elwood blues
10 years ago

Well, now the guy who wants Storen from me ($5) is pitching Putz($18) and Alonso ($5).. I wondering if YA gets double digit HR’s in Petco. I’m still leaning on riding out Storen’s ‘issues’

L-Boogie
L-Boogie
10 years ago

Lynn, Milone, or Pomeranz in standard 5×5?

Thanks dude.

Bros Before Hosmer
Bros Before Hosmer
10 years ago

Not a great spring for closers, eh? Or, “Not a great close for Springers,” if your name is Jerry, and you’re a TV personality.

On to my point, I’d like some team evaluation. It’s 14 team H2H, keeper league, 7×6 categories, with TB/OBP and L added. I made a a few trades in the off-season in hopes that I’d have a pretty balanced team this year, as opposed to being very young and too much pitching/not enough hitting last year as a byproduct of having a terrible initial draft. Any weak spots?

C: Napoli
1B: Hosmer
2B: Espinosa
SS: Aybar
3B: Longoria
IF: Moustakas
LF: Braun
CF: Fowler
RF: Hunter
OF: Boesch
Util (2): Trumbo/Belt
Bench: De Aza

SP: Haren/Beachy/D. Hudson/Hellickson/Billingsley/Baker/Shelby Miller (keeper stash)
RP: Betancourt/Jansen/G. Holland

Thanks, I really appreciate it. And keep the podcasts coming. They’re hilarious, entertaining, and informative. And they don’t include Matthew Berry.

Bros Before Hosmer
Bros Before Hosmer
Reply to  Grey
10 years ago

@Grey, Yeah, Bochy and Sabes have me worried with the whole Pill thing though. WTF are they thinking? And rookie with 29 HRs to bench player is kind of disheartening. Both of those guys were keepers and was banking on them being big contributors this year.

Steve
Steve
10 years ago

If you could get 40 Saves out of Thornton and Jim Johnson, you’d be pretty happy, right?

Steve
Steve
Reply to  Steve
10 years ago

@Steve, 40 saves total, I mean.

birrrdy!
birrrdy!
10 years ago

Buy low on Storen everyone… mark my words, he will be a Donkeycorn.

And Johan Santana will be solid this year, buy low again! David Wright? Yup.

Here’s an even crazier idea. Chris Young will be in the starting rotation for the Mets in July. Shoulders schmolders!

birrrdy!
birrrdy!
Reply to  Grey
10 years ago

@Grey, sorry, I couldn’t resist!

Eddy
Eddy
10 years ago

Grey, a couple of years ago I got the basic rules for my keeper from you in the comments.

With your help, I decided that a 3-year limit would be best for any player, as well as a 3-round inflation per year kept.

When someone is traded mid-season, I obviously don’t count that as year 1 for the new manager.

E.g., If someone trades me Strasburg in the middle of 2012, I keep him 2013-15. Not 2012-14.

But I’m in a bit of a dilemma. Two teams just made a trade and Stanton was involved. Because he has been traded, his new owner has the three full years to own him until he returns to the pool.

But does his first year count as this year since the season hasn’t even started? I want to say yes, because if not, and I make 2013 the first year, that’s essentially four straight years.

Eddy
Eddy
Reply to  Grey
10 years ago

@Grey, Thanks!

Eddy
Eddy
Reply to  Grey
10 years ago

@Grey,

One last question in the subject:

What should be the cutoff date for when a player is essentially “used”?

We agreed that this is year 1 for Stanton. But what’s the earliest a player should be able to be traded and that year NOT count as a keeper year?

Steven
Steven
10 years ago

Grey-
I don’t know if you will get to answer this before the games get going tomorrow morning but i’ll submit anyways. I have no players that play for Oak/Sea and also do not have any for opening night for Mia/STL. With that said i’m playing on yahoo and the opening week goes from March 28th-Apr 8th leaving me only 3 days (Those who play on the 5th don’t play on the 6th and that happens to be my whole team) of stats to fill categories. Would you consider picking up any players from OAK/SEA off waivers to try and grab some stats?

Thanks so much

Steven
Steven
Reply to  Grey
10 years ago

@Grey,
The only options that i have to pick up off free agents would be-Kurt Suzuki, Mike Carp, Miguel Olivo, Cliff Pennington, Chone Figgins, Josh Reddick, or Jonny Gomes. Any of these guys worth it???

On another note I am in a 1 catcher league and picked up both Soto and Ramos in the draft. Which would you rather have?? I would probably be dropping one of these to pick up any of above players.

Thanks so much

Steven
Steven
Reply to  Grey
10 years ago

@Grey,

Thanks for your time

Hats for Bats
Hats for Bats
10 years ago

@Grey – I’m drafting my 10 team H2H 7X7 at 9:30 PM EST tonight. Do I take Stanton anywhere in the 2nd or do I stick to PEDS and go 1B/3B? Help me Obi Wan Grey-nobi, you’re my only hope.

Steve
Steve
Reply to  Grey
10 years ago

@Grey, Oh man – you had to go and remind me about not waiting on Longoria again. I’d only just got over that… (emoticon)

Hats for Bats
Hats for Bats
Reply to  Grey
10 years ago

@Grey, I’m not hearing a no . . . .

Whiskey Diet
Whiskey Diet
10 years ago

Grey, this has to be tedious, but I would love to read your overall impressions of this team…

12 Team, ESPN standard Roto league. Same as RCL settings I believe…

C Joe Mauer
1B Ike Davis
2B Ian Kinsler
3B Evan Longoria
SS Alcides Escobar
MI Aaron Hill
CI Pablo Sandoval
OF Hunter Pence
OF Desmond Jennings
OF Jayson Werth
OF Nick Markakis
OF Yoenis Cespedes
Util Billy Butler

SP Madison Bumgardner
SP Yovanni Gallardo
SP Matt Garza
SP Jhoulys Chacin
SP Tim Hudson
SP Chris Carpenter
SP John Niese

RP Jose Valverde
RP Frank Francisco
RP Addison Reed
RP Vinnie Pestano

BN Bryce Harper

Pitching strong enough that it might have hurt my hitting? Only thing is I’m banking on three bounce back years (Mauer, Werth, Hill) and a guy whose never had a ML at-bat (Cespedes).

Appreciate any thoughts sir. Your work is outstanding.

Shin-Soo Choo Choo
Shin-Soo Choo Choo
10 years ago

Ok, guess that was the issue!

Please assess my team — 8 team H2H 2-catcher 6×6 with OBP and QS:

C – Matt Wieters, Chris Ianetta
1B – Prince Fielder
2B – Dan Uggla
3B – Brett Lawrie
SS – Jose Reyes
CI – Adam Lind
MI – Ryan Roberts
OF – Ryan Braun, Jay Bruce, Adam Jones, Drew Stubbs
UTIL – Peter Bourjos, Jesus Montero
BN – Ike Davis, Delmon Young
SP – Cliff Lee, Zack Grienke, Madison Bumgarner, CJ Wilson, Gio Gonzalez
RP – Jose Valverde, Carlos Marmol, Kenley Jansen, Grant Balfour, Brad Lidge
P – Max Sherzer, Jhoulys Chacin, Justin Masterson, Aroldis Chapman

I know I shouldn’t be carrying three catchers, but I couldn’t believe how far Montero fell, so I had to grab him and will hope to trade Ianetta when Montero gains eligibility.

Thanks!

Shin-Soo Choo Choo
Shin-Soo Choo Choo
Reply to  Grey
10 years ago

@Grey, Bourne has been kind enough to weigh in on my team in the forums (Baseball – Lineups, Waivers, Keepers >> “Only the strong survive! Please assess.”), saying that my MI’s gotta go and AVG will suffer. Agreed?

Basically…

1) If I’m working the wire (and note that this is a 50 moves max league), should I concentrate on high AVG/OBP guys over other needs?

2) Drop Ryan Roberts for Aviles, seeing as Aviles will bat top of the order for the BoSox?

Shin-Soo Choo Choo
Shin-Soo Choo Choo
Reply to  Grey
10 years ago

@Grey, Sorry if I wasn’t clear. I have Roberts. Drop him for Aviles?

Shin-Soo Choo Choo
Shin-Soo Choo Choo
10 years ago

I’ve had the damndest time trying to submit a comment with a URL, so consider this a test.

Jim
Jim
10 years ago

Hey Grey, Did my 2nd 12 man NFBC high stakes draft last night. I don’t really like this team. Would like to hear your thoughts. Also as you can see weak at SS and MI, is there any MI minor leaguers who could come up this year and make a big impact for me? Who r some to watch? Thanks you the best.

McCann
Soto

Votto
Kendrick
I. Desmond
Youkilis

J. Upton
J. Hamilton
N. Cruz
C. Maybin
A. Rios

G. Sanchez
C. Rasmus
Z. Cozart

N. Reinold
G. Beckham

F. Hernandez
D. Hudson
G. Gonzalez
J. Zimmerman
D. Holland
F. Liriano
J. Danks
J. Neise
T. Cahill
R. Delgado

B. Wilson
S. Marshall
S. Romo
J. Crain

Awesomus Maximus
Awesomus Maximus
10 years ago

Anyone getting up at 6AM EST (or staying up, for you Grey, until 3AM) to watch the season opener? Is it even being broadcast here?

Awesomus Maximus
Awesomus Maximus
Reply to  Grey
10 years ago

@Grey, No, no, no… it’s not “Opening Day,” it’s the “Season Opener.” They’re two completely different, totally unrelated events.

Awesomus Maximus
Awesomus Maximus
Reply to  Grey
10 years ago

@Grey, Well, to be fair, the Japanese love our pastime more than we do, at this point. How much? Well, they’ve given it a native name, ???? (pronounced yah-KYUU). May not seem like a big deal, but consider how long beer has been around and how awesome it is, and that is still called ??? (pronounced BEE-ru), not a native name. Or how pervasive and addictive McDonald’s is, yet that is still called ??? ???? (pronounced MAH-ku doh-NARU-doh), also not a native name.

This tidbit brought to you by the Who Gives A Shit Channel, check local listings or call your cable or satellite provider.

Awesomus Maximus
Awesomus Maximus
Reply to  Awesomus Maximus
10 years ago

@Awesomus Maximus, Razzball won’t post hiragana or katakana? Racist website…

mikey boy324
mikey boy324
10 years ago

grey would you drop leake and or homer bailey for hocheaver or lynn?

Marty Funkhouser
Marty Funkhouser
10 years ago

@Grey: Looks like Altuve’s batting 8th for the time being, which is kind of very blah when it’s for the Astros, and even more very blah when he’s my MI. Was gonna grab Aviles as insurance, but he’s gone already. Would you prefer any of Cliff Pennington, Yunel Escobar, or Jed Lowrie (at least he’s hitting 2nd and still has the stench of untapped potential about him) over Altuve for now?

BigFatHippo
BigFatHippo
10 years ago

@Grey

OK, here’s my team. 9 teams this year. See if I need to make any moves. I feel like some players are too risky.

C…Posey
1b…Youk
2b…Jemile Weeks
3b…Pablo
ss…Reyes
OF…Ellsbury, Holliday, BJ Up
Util…Ethier, Ike Davis
Bench…Tyler Green, Belt, Mig Montero, Cespedes

SP…Hamels, Hanson, CJ Wilson, Beckett, MadBum, Scherzer
RP…Axford, Marmol, Perez, Mitt Romney………….

Thoughts?

BigFatHippo
BigFatHippo
Reply to  Grey
10 years ago

@Grey, I thought you’d tell me to drop Romney and pick up Santorum. Yeah, I hardly ever finish high in HR but I usually do quite well.

Here’s another team. My 13 year old kid got in the league this year and I said I’d help him as long as it didn’t involve money! Then I paid his entry fee, sucker.

BigFatHippo’s Kid

C…Yadi
1b…Tex
2b…Uggla
3b…Longo
SS…Boneface
CI…Bautista
MI…Kendrick or Utley
OF…Braun, Ichiro, Bruce
Util…Papi with V Mart on DL

SP…Lincecum, Strasburg, J Zimm, Cueto, Jaime, Garza, Ubaldo, Oswalt

RP…Nathan, Balfour, Motte

Thoughts? Other than I should kick him out of the league and demand my money back?

BigFatHippo
BigFatHippo
Reply to  Grey
10 years ago

@Grey, No, Drake. Dash would rather play drums and mexican dominoes.

BigFatHippo
BigFatHippo
Reply to  Grey
10 years ago

@Grey,

Great, thanks for asking. Scholar Bowl team went undefeated and they’re going to Space Camp this summer! The Pater Familia is still dumber than a sandwich, go figger………….

How’s things in LaLa?

Steve
Steve
Reply to  BigFatHippo
10 years ago

@BigFatHippo, It’s just a pity y’all are playing for second.

BigFatHippo
BigFatHippo
Reply to  Steve
10 years ago

@Steve, HaHa, we shall see…………..

Side
Side
10 years ago

Deep 16 team league. Hitting is awesome but pitching (starters & relievers) needs help. Putting G Sizemore my last pick on the DL & can take….
H Rodriquez
Vogelsong
Floyd
Hughes

I am leaning torward Hughes 4 upside & only start him w good matchups. However if HRod has a real chance 2 close he is the pick. Opinion?

herschel
herschel
10 years ago

@Grey: have you been liking a particular draft position in your leagues thus far (beginning, middle, end)? i know each league has its particulars, but i am currently picking 4th and am thinking about trading down to the 10 spot. just curious if you have a preferred draft position…

thanks.

Steve
Steve
10 years ago

The optimism engendered the Royals’ corps of exciting young hitters, must surely be tempered by the news that Bruce Chen will be their Opening Day starter.

royce!
royce!
Reply to  Steve
10 years ago

@Steve, No shizz. Duffy and Montgomery could be good, though.

I am lucky enough to be in a shallow 14 team h2h league with a bunch of KC (and, to a lesser extent, STL) fans, and Sanchez, Hochevar, Paulino, and Mendoza are all owned (weirdly, Duffy and Chen are not).

Someone even owns Salvador Perez.

To reiterate, HOW HAVE I NEVER WON THIS LEAGUE???

Steve
Steve
Reply to  royce!
10 years ago

@royce!, Is it possible you care too much?

I hate Chen. He has NEVER done right by me. If he’s on someone else’s team against me, he’s brilliant. And then if I ever pick him up and start him, he’s crap.

royce!
royce!
Reply to  Steve
10 years ago

@Steve, You would think that was the problem, but one year I got eliminated because I stayed out too late with a buddy who was visiting from out of town and forgot to set my lineup for the playoffs… I think I overlooked it because I subconsciously thought it must be Saturday if I’m out after midnight… I think it was the year before that, I lost because peavy didn’t start due to having a kid or something, for which I will never forgive him (though I did take a late flyer on him). Stupid h2h.

KCC26
KCC26
10 years ago

12 team head to head

SP: Greinke, A. Sanchez, Beckett, Beachy, Lilly, Liriano, Bedard
RP: Motte, Betancourt, Thornton, Venters

Who would you prefer to round out this rotation:

Lynn, Bailey, Capuano, or Volquez?

Reezy
Reezy
10 years ago

Hey Grey longtime reader and first post. Ur the shizz! Anyways-
I checked out your 3rd base rankings and all of these guys are very close who would u roll with? heres my hitters: 12 team h2h mixed
C- doumit (until Montero gains elig)
1st- A Gonzalez
2nd- Uggla
3rd- encarnacion
SS- cozart
OF- Cargo
OF- Bruce
OF- Jennings
Util- Jesus Montero
Util- Heyward
Bench- D Young

My dilemma is that both Moustakas and Gamel are available. Which of the 3 do you like considering my squad? Thanks and keep up the great work

BigFatHippo
BigFatHippo
10 years ago

@Grey

Put that in the wrong thread but I’m used to putting things where they don’t belong.

BigFatHippo
BigFatHippo
Reply to  Grey
10 years ago

@Grey, I once found my wallet in the hands of a stripper who looked surprisingly like Betty White!

Killer Joe
Killer Joe
10 years ago

Grey, 2 questions. I drafted this team on Saturday and I feel pretty invincible. But I feel that way after pretty much every draft, so I might be a little bit vincible. The weak link I think is Goldschmidt, and I have a lot of brain freezes, but overall I like it. What is your impression?

12 team H2H

C: Jesus Montero (when he becomes eligible)
1B: Paul Goldschmidt
2B: Howie Kendrick
3B: Adrian Beltre
SS: Elvis Andrus
OF: Justin Upton
OF: Andrew McCutchen
OF: Jay Bruce
U: Chris Young

SP: Madison Bumgarner
SP: Gio Gonzalez
SP: Jordan Zimmermann
RP: Sean Marshall
P: Brandon League
P: Matt Thornton
P: Grant Balfour

BN: Jim Johnson
BN: Anibal Sanchez
BN: Mike Minor

And number 2, I need to dump a RP and grab a catcher for the first week or two. Which of those guys sucks it up first?

Wilsonian
Wilsonian
Reply to  Killer Joe
10 years ago

@Killer Joe, I agree with Grey…just thought I’d chime in. It looks like a 10 team league team, not a 12er.

Killer Joe
Killer Joe
Reply to  Wilsonian
10 years ago

@Wilsonian, yeah it is a 12 team league, I guess it is just populated by 11 buffoons that I went to college with.

Chunk
Chunk
10 years ago

Too bad his name isn’t ‘Grant Strikethree.’

Steve
Steve
Reply to  Grey
10 years ago

@Grey, His name is Bal(l)-four, not Strikethree…

chata
chata
Reply to  Grey
10 years ago

@Grey,

steve had some splainin to do .

royce!
royce!
10 years ago

Just got mlb tv on my xbox 360. So far the video quality is unexpectedly good; it’s not outstanding, but I’m watching it on a 42″ tv, and it’s definitely watchable. Much better than on my laptop. I can finally stop regretting paying over $300 for a video game system that I only used for netflix and EA Skate, and neither frequently.

BigFatHippo
BigFatHippo
Reply to  Grey
10 years ago

@Grey,

Hey, not a closer question, (or a cloSer question, I get cornfused every time I read that headline). I have one of each so I’m well rounded there, pun intended.

What value does Brandon Belt have for this year? I have Youk, Ike D, Panda on the corners with Lind and Belt as backups. Too many corners?

BigFatHippo
BigFatHippo
Reply to  Grey
10 years ago

@Grey, You can bust my chops anytime great guru. Just getting too lazy to surf the site……………it’s so exhausting!

I liked it when there were just a few of us, you know, like before Steve got here ;)

Steve
Steve
Reply to  Grey
10 years ago

@Grey, I’m a lover not a fighter.

DjlanceRauch
DjlanceRauch
10 years ago

Need to fill my 2b/ss slot. Light on steals. Should I pick up Espinosa, or take a flier on Cozart?

junker23
junker23
10 years ago

Has Marshall not been named the closer? I assumed he’d be ranked waay higher if he had the gig.

jaw
jaw
10 years ago

grey – who would you rather have in a 12 team 5×5 h2h, nicasio or jon sanchez?

MrHappyTime
MrHappyTime
10 years ago

Just finished up my draft last night. Thought I did decent, my team looks like this with the price I got them at.

TEAM WILLIEMAYSHAYES
6 Troy Tulowitzki, Col SS $36
14 Adrian Gonzalez, Bos 1B $27
19 Carlos Gonzalez, Col OF $26
21 Clayton Kershaw, LAD SP $24
26 Andrew McCutchen, Pit OF $22
27 Adrian Beltre, Tex 3B $22
42 Jay Bruce, Cin OF $20
55 Carlos Santana, Cle C $15
108 Howard Kendrick, LAA 2B $11
111 Chris Young, Ari OF $10
134 Jose Valverde, Det RP $11
135 Josh Johnson, Mia SP $10
160 Mark Reynolds, Bal 3B $6
166 Andrew Bailey, Bos RP $6
196 Jesus Montero, Sea DH $1
204 Lucas Duda, NYM 1B $3
211 Yoenis Cespedes, Oak OF $1
217 Emilio Bonifacio, Mia SS $1
222 Grant Balfour, Oak RP $1
226 Mark Trumbo, LAA 1B $1
230 Kendrys Morales, LAA 1B $1
234 Edwin Jackson, Wsh SP $1
238 Frank Francisco, NYM RP $1
242 Trevor Cahill, Ari SP $1
245 Mike Leake, Cin SP $1

Would you drop Leake for Liriano, and Cahill for Bedard or Niese?

Thanks

Howard
Howard
10 years ago

@Grey Thanks for the closer look! Nice to see League in the Donkeycorns! Still waiting for that T-shirt! Anywho, went all in on Chisenhall in some leagues and will need a hopefully short term replacement: Rolen bleh, Figgins bleh, Mcgehee bleh, Mini Mini Donkey?

Eddy
Eddy
10 years ago

Mat Latos leaves start. No word yet, may be an injury.

Wilsonian
Wilsonian
Reply to  Grey
10 years ago

@Grey, Strained left calf. In other news, Lind sat out with back tightness. Not already…

Eddy
Eddy
Reply to  Wilsonian
10 years ago

@Wilsonian, Hmm, went all in with Lind in 3/4 leagues this year…

Wilsonian
Wilsonian
Reply to  Eddy
10 years ago

@Eddy, yeah, I went in on him in one league, but I’m banking on him being pseudo healthy. Not a fan of him already having issues with the same thing that made him sit out last year. But I totally understand back issues…they never seem to go away.

papasmurf
papasmurf
10 years ago

I usually end up taking Valverde every year, but this year I took Marmol over him. It may be nothing more than some crazy paranoia and I could be kicking myself in a month (especially since Marmol’s not exactly been great in the spring), but I think V’s in for a tough year (compared to his norm). A somewhat lucky season last year, bad D behind him, and age.

chata
chata
Reply to  papasmurf
10 years ago

@papasmurf,

how many games do you see the cubs winning this year ?

EK
EK
10 years ago

Beltran or Markakis?
5 x 5

Slappy Pappy
Slappy Pappy
10 years ago

Grey… 12T H2H trade help. Would you give B. Meyers and Jim J. for J.J. Putz? Farnsworth? I’m thinking one donkeycorn vs. two brain freezes…?

Thanks!

Slappy Pappy
Slappy Pappy
Reply to  Grey
10 years ago

@Grey, Woah-kay (that a surprised okay). Thanks!

Dan Frank Francisco
Dan Frank Francisco
10 years ago

I am in a 12 team. Extremely competitive league with the same guys for 8 years. Its 100 dollars a person. 1,000 to the winner. 200 for second place. Head to Head league.
What were my best picks? What were my worst picks? I know I am thin on power. How can I upgrade? Who should I target. I need to win this year. Help is much much much appreciated.

1. (6) Robinson Cano 2B
2. (19) Clayton Kershaw SP
3. (30) Josh Hamilton OF
4. (43) Matt Holliday OF
5. (54) Matt Cain SP
6. (67) Eric Hosmer 1B
7. (78) Shin-Soo Choo OF
8. (91) B.J. Upton OF
9. (102) Jason Heyward OF
10. (115) Brandon Beachy SP
11. (126) Jose Valverde RP
12. (139) Emilio Bonifacio 3B,SS,OF
13. (150) Max Scherzer SP
14. (163) Jhonny Peralta SS
15. (174) Joe Nathan RP
16. (187) Mitch Moreland 1B,OF
17. (198) Yunel Escobar SS
18. (211) Austin Jackson OF
19. (222) Edwin Jackson SP
20. (235) Wilson Ramos C
21. (246) Alcidies Escobar SS
22. (259) Jose Altuve 2nd
23. (270) Matt Capps RP
24. (283) Vance Worley SP
25. (294) Bryan LaHair OF

Pubscout
Pubscout
10 years ago

Grey-Any word or hunch on Chapman and/or Ogando’s role?

Coach McGuirk
Coach McGuirk
10 years ago

any thoughts on Krispie’s new swing? Just spring training or a new man?

Steve
Steve
10 years ago

Can the effing season just effing-well start al-effing-ready

Steve
Steve
Reply to  Grey
10 years ago

@Grey, Sorry to repeat myself, but I like to follow the comments via email so I needed to subscribe to the post (emoticon)

aj
aj
10 years ago

Is the Tokyo Dome pitcher or hitter friendly?

royce!
royce!
Reply to  aj
10 years ago

@aj, I can’t remember where, but I skimmed an article a bit ago that claimed hitter.

PrinceRudyNasim
PrinceRudyNasim
10 years ago

question….would you guys drop Volquez for any of the following guys..

Duffy
Milone
Lynn
Alvarez

Wilsonian
Wilsonian
10 years ago

Casey Blake was just released…time for Arenado or who the hell is gonna play 3rd?

Wilsonian
Wilsonian
Reply to  Grey
10 years ago

@Grey, guh. Hopefully that means a shorter time frame for Arenado.

Eddy
Eddy
Reply to  Wilsonian
10 years ago

@Wilsonian, Nah, remember they sent down Arenado a few days ago.

Wilsonian
Wilsonian
Reply to  Eddy
10 years ago

@Eddy, Yeah. I read so much crap that I forget which is which. Still thinking about picking him up and dropping Morel from my bench in my 16 teamer.

Eddy
Eddy
10 years ago

Casey Blake was just released by the Rockies. Who plays 3B? They sent Arenado down. Cuddyer and then Colvin in the OF?

Eddy
Eddy
Reply to  Eddy
10 years ago

@Eddy, Ugh, just saw Chris Nelson and Jordan Pacheco will probably share time.

Wilsonian
Wilsonian
Reply to  Eddy
10 years ago

@Eddy, Dammit Eddy you always beat me by a couple minutes.

Eddy
Eddy
Reply to  Wilsonian
10 years ago

@Wilsonian, :)

Dom
Dom
10 years ago

Draft postmortem
10 Team, Auction, Keeper League, AL Only, 4 x 4 (Avg., HR, SB, RBI x W, S, ERA, WHIP)

I obviously punted average. I think I’m good with HR & SB, but weak in Saves and very average at Wins. Thoughts / areas to improve?

C Arencibia, J.P.
1B Pena, Carlos
2B Beckham, Gordon
3B Beltre, Adrian
SS Nunez, Eduardo
MI Escobar, Alcides
CI Dunn, Adam
OF Hamilton, Josh; Upton, B.J.; Crisp, Coco; Cain, Lorenzo; Reimold, Nolan
U Doumit, Ryan; Lillibridge, Brent

P Weaver, Jered; Jimenez, Ubaldo; Hellickson, Jeremy; McCarthy, Brandon; Sale, Chris; De Los Santos, Fautino; Fuentes, Brian; Holland, Greg; Dotel, Octavio

Bench Davis, Chris; Carroll, Jamey; Axelrod, Dylan; Betances, Dellin; Hagadone, Nick; Paulino, Felipe

Phil Brickma
Phil Brickma
10 years ago

The up in arms comment had my dying. Thanks, Grey. Anyway, could you choose one from this list of speculative FA pick-ups? Thanks!

Alejandro De Aza
Vernon Wells
Jake Peavy
Edinson Volquez

Also, did you see that Belt might not make the opening day roster? Ugh.

PrinceRudyNasim
PrinceRudyNasim
10 years ago

Not for nothing but that Dolis kid looked real good pitching the 9inning i believe it was against the Texas the other day. GB pitcher wirth heat. James Russell looked surprisingly nice. I could see him being the deep sleeper of that bullpen

microwave donut
microwave donut
10 years ago

I’m curious about Greg Holland. If he can grab that job, where would he rank?

The sub 2.00 ERA of last year doesn’t look to stick, but with 11K/9 and a 2.67 xFIP… maybe the top of the second group?

farcus
farcus
10 years ago

drafted last night in my 14 tm h2h points league

c- saltalamaccxcxxxxccccccia
1b – pujols
2b – weeks, ricky
3b – a-rod
ss – jeter
of- j up
of – cargo (gonzalez)
of – Kendrick
util – youk
b- Austin Jackson, bourjos, rasmus, Sean rod

sp- greinke
sp- marcum
sp- anibal
sp- dempster
sp- beachy
rp- putz
rp- chapman
rp- noesi
b- j sanch

any weak spots? any guys you’d try to get rid of at this point?

farcus
farcus
Reply to  farcus
10 years ago

@farcus, goddamn phone. sorry for the post in triplicate

farcus
farcus
10 years ago

drafted last night in my 14 tm h2h points league

c- saltalamaccxcxxxxccccccia
1b – pujols
2b – weeks, ricky
3b – a-rod
ss – jeter
of- j up
of – cargo (gonzalez)
of – Kendrick
util – youk
b- Austin Jackson, bourjos, rasmus, Sean rod

sp- greinke
sp- marcum
sp- anibal
sp- dempster
sp- beachy
rp- putz

farcus
farcus
10 years ago

drafted last night in my 14 tm h2h points league

c- saltalamaccxcxxxxccccccia
1b – pujols
2b – weeks, ricky
3b – a-rod
ss – jeter
of- j up
of – cargo (gonzalez)
of – Kendrick
util – youk
b- Austin Jackson, bourjos, rasmus, Sean rod

sp- greinke
sp- marcum
sp- anibal

ritzer
ritzer
10 years ago

I posted this the other day but it was missed.

Drafted this 14 team h2h first year keeper team.
Batting; runs, doubles, triples, HR,RBI, steals, OBP ( no average)
Pitching W Era, K, WHIP, Saves, QS, Holds

A few questions.
Who do I go for in LF?
How bad is my RP?
Any other general observations

C Miguel Montero
1B Prince Fielder
2B Brandon Phillips
3B Evan Longoria
SS Jhonny Peralta
LF Mike Carp or JD Martinez or Marcus Thames
CF B.J. Upton
RF Jay Bruce
U Drew Stubbs

SP Zack Greinke , Daniel Hudson, Gio Gonzalez , Shaun Marcum , Jhoulys Chacin ,Mike Minor , Luke Hochevar
RP Jason Motte, Jonathan Broxton, Brett Myers, Matt Capps, Mark Melancon, Joel Peralta

Bench Mike Aviles and whoever I don’t start in LF.

frank rizzo
frank rizzo
10 years ago

Maybe I’m out of the loop but why is Motte ranked so high? Didn’t he lose the job most of last year?

Son of a Beachy
Son of a Beachy
Reply to  Grey
10 years ago

@Grey, + he won’t have TLR to yank him around this year. His micro-managing of closers last year drove us all insane…

L-Boogie
L-Boogie
10 years ago

Dude in my $$$ league (5×5, 12 team) drafted this team last night with the wraparound pick (12th). I’ve heard rumors of this sort of draft strategy before but I’ve never seen it put into play:

C Arencibia
C Olivo
1B Hosmer
2B Walker
3B Wright
SS Cozart
MI Aviles
CI Konerko
OF Alonso
OF Berkman
OF A Gordon
OF A Jones
OF Maybin
DH De Aza

P Verlande
P Kershaw
P Greinke
P Lester
P Garcia
P Marmol
P Santos

That’s right. My man took Verlander, Kershaw, and Greinke in the first 3 rounds and followed it up with Lester in the 6th. I guess he didn’t get the memo about how deep pitching was this year. I mean, he could probably start 4 SPs all year and still finish first in most pitching cats.

Oddly enough, he was able to piece together a decent team with some good value picks: Konerko in the 8th, Wright in the 5th (if he’s truly ok).

Is there any way this guy can compete offensively or did he completely shoot himself in the foot?

Thanks dude.

L-Boogie
L-Boogie
Reply to  L-Boogie
10 years ago

@L-Boogie, And Mike, if you’re reading this, nothin but respect for you and your team…. except for your offense. Although if he did fillow this site he wouldn’t have taken 4 pitchers in the first 6 rounds.

Mike
Mike
10 years ago

Hi Grey… I’ll be another one of these “how’s my team?” guys.

14 team H2H OPS/QS instead of BA/W – 25 roster spots
(350 players active total in league)

C – Wieters
1B – Swisher
2B – Phillips
3B – Bautista
OF – Granderson
OF – Hart
OF – Beltran
Util – T. Hunter
Util – Espinosa
BN – Gaby Sanchez
BN – Carp
BN – Presley

SP – Sabathia, Cain, Anibal Sanchez, Chacin, Edwin Jackson, Leake, Randy Wolf, Henderson Alvarez, Matt Harrison

RP – Storen, Putz, Lidge

I will probably pick up Henry Rodriguez and another SP once the 2 expected DL slots open up.

I’m pretty happy considering the depth of the league, but a little nervous about Bautista/Granderson…

Mike
Mike
Reply to  Grey
10 years ago

@Grey, Thanks…I’ve always done well with pitching, but hitting seems to be an issue every year. Tried to draft better this year, but I’m worried about regression from the two I mentioned above.

Forgot to mention SS is Aybar.

Mike
Mike
Reply to  Grey
10 years ago

@Grey, Should also mention I only drafted 2 of those pitchers in the top 10.

nick m.
nick m.
10 years ago

Do you see Aviles holding the job and being a sneaky player at SS in a H2H points league? Or is he just deep league fodder?

Rodger-Dodger
Rodger-Dodger
10 years ago

I don’t know how many of you mooks have noticed Grey tagging his Closer Look pieces with that extra little zinger. The lowest ranked Brain Freeze always has an unexpected last-chance, back-up arm for saves. Last week he had Chief Wahoo, and today I almost snorted my coffee when I saw Mitt Romney was added to the bullpen.

Very Funny… like TBS! Ha ha.

Gordon
Gordon
10 years ago

Any thoughts on Juan Nicasio?

Todd Harris
Todd Harris
10 years ago

Hi Grey – can you give me quick idea how this team looks? 10 teamer, 5×5 H2H league, had the 4th pick. I think I’m going to mash, possibly have avg. issues. Wasn’t nuts on Santana, but he fell to me.

C Carlos Santana (Cle – C,1B)
1B Albert Pujols (LAA – 1B)
2B Dan Uggla (Atl – 2B)
3B Evan Longoria (TB – 3B)
SS Hanley Ramirez (Mia – SS)
OF Alex Gordon (KC – OF)
OF Adam Jones (Bal – OF)
OF Drew Stubbs (Cin – OF)
Util Billy Butler (KC – 1B)
SP Zack Greinke (Mil – SP)
SP Yovani Gallardo (Mil – SP)
RP Heath Bell (Mia – RP)
RP Jason Motte (StL – RP)
P Daniel Hudson (Ari – SP)
P Jordan Zimmermann (Was – SP)
P Cory Luebke (SD – SP,RP)
BN Kenley Jansen (LAD – RP)
BN Justin Masterson (Cle – SP)
BN Bud Norris (Hou – SP)
BN Grant Balfour (Oak – RP)

3FingersBrown
3FingersBrown
10 years ago

@Grey, Had our 10 team Razzball auction last night. Is this the worst team money can buy? First time drafting a Razzball team. I feel like I need my eyes scrubbed clean after that experience.

C: Barajas
1B: Huff
2B: Descalso
SS: Ryan
3B: Morel
MI: Bartlett
CI: Uribe
OF: Stubbs
OF: Reddick
OF: Sweeney
OF: Viciedo
OF: J. Rivera

P: Lowe
P: Colon
P: Hochavar
P: McDonald
P: Bleavan
P: E. Jackson
P: McClellen
P: Lyon
P: Corderdo
P: D. McCutchen

BN: J. Guzman
BN: Theriot
BN: J. Castro

3FingersBrown
3FingersBrown
Reply to  Grey
10 years ago

@Grey, Thanks! During the draft my wife kept asking me, “how’s it going,” to which I would reply, “ok… I guess.” Harder than it seems to put together a truly awful team.

I basically punted pitcher (aside from Lowe who I snagged in the middle rounds) and catcher and focused on getting the most games played. Morel is a concern but I’ve got depth at 3rd. Morel may actually produce, especially in the 2 hole – where Ventura is considering using him.

royce!
royce!