In an incredible turn of events, I’ve done all the infield 2017 fantasy baseball rankings.  Less incredible, you’ve read them all.  It’s like that time your favorite team won because they played better than that other team but you convinced yourself they won because you cheered loudly.  When I win the Fantasy Baseball Blogger of the Millennial in 2099, and my frozen head is accepting the award, I’m going to thank you, the readers, but I’m secretly going to be thanking myself.  Without me, none of this would be possible.  You’re a close second though!  Okay, enough ranking you and me, let’s rank some outfielders!  Last year, there was one outfielder I said I didn’t want in the top 20, Andrew McClutchin’ His Knee.  This year, well, let’s save it for the post!  All my projections are listed by the players and where I see tiers starting and stopping.  Anyway, here’s the top 20 outfielders for 2017 fantasy baseball:

1. Mike Trout – Went over him in the top 10 for 2017 fantasy baseball.

2. Mookie Betts – Went over him in the top 10 for 2017 fantasy baseball.

3. Kris Bryant – Went over him in the top 10 for 2017 fantasy baseball.

4. Bryce Harper – Went over him in the top 10 for 2017 fantasy baseball.

5. Trea Turner – Went over him in the top 20 for 2017 fantasy baseball.

6. George Springer – Went over him in the top 20 for 2017 fantasy baseball.

7. Charlie Blackmon – Went over him in the top 20 for 2017 fantasy baseball.

8. Starling Marte – Went over him in the top 20 for 2017 fantasy baseball.

9. Giancarlo Stanton – This is a new tier.  This tier goes from here until here (after J.D. was injured).  I call this tier, “HBI.”  By the tier name I mean, this is a chance for a Hot Bat Injection before getting to the old doodes.  Plus, I’d let these guys give me an HBI, the Urban Dictionary definition of HBI.  Sometimes I call up a phone sex line and say, “Can you pretend you’re Giancarlo and you’ve just hit your 50th homer?  No, no, no.  Make it a line drive over the right field fence.  No, you can’t catch the home run in your breasts if you’re Giancarlo in this scenario!  Besides that’s not sexy!  You’re liable to get hurt.  Let me catch his donger-ball.  Oh, yeah, damn, that’s nice.”  I know, it’s silly to continue to have hope in Giancarlo, and, realistically, he’s headed for one of the most disappointing careers considering he could’ve had 35+ homers every year for the last seven.  He needs to turn things around this year, otherwise his failed promise will be all anyone ever talks about.  Well, that and his buns.  2017 Projections: 84/38/103/.253/1 in 529 ABs

10. Nelson Cruz – This is a new tier.  This tier goes from here until Trumbo.  I call this tier, “Catch 22.”   Outfield got old.  It didn’t happen overnight, but it feels that way.  You go to sleep as a kid, and your best friend is Jared Rushton and you wake up old AF, arthritic and yelling the music is too loud, but you can’t hear it when it’s not loud.  You’re in a terrible Catch 22.  Welcome to this tier. Really, this tier could go into the top 40, but I broke this tier up into mini tiers, because these guys are all bonded by more than their same gray-haired characteristic.  This tier vs. the next tier of old guys in the top 40 outfielders?  The next tier scares the bejesus out of me.  You can guess some of those names.  This tier only scares the baby bejesus out of me.  A small bejesus, if you will.    As for Cruz, he just hit 40-plus homers for the third straight season.  Yes, he’s old, but maybe he found the Fountain of Youth.  Or Fountain of Yute, if Joe Pesci is reading.  2017 Projections:  88/33/98/.265/1 in 537 ABs

11. Ryan Braun – You know what you need for this tier?  Just for Men mustache dye?  Yes, but you know what else?  You need to pick up a guy off waivers at least once a year to fill-in for them.  If you picked up wisely last year, Braun’s lineup slot could’ve nabbed you 35 HRs and 20 SBs and a .300+ average.  If you’re thinking, “Yeah, sure, if you picked up Villar off waivers.”  Sarcasm is the lowest form of wit, you jerk!  I hate hypothetical you!  No, you didn’t need Villar, Braun hit 30 HRs, stole 16 bags and hit .305 last year in only 135 games.  Yeah, he was that good last year.  2017 Projections:  82/25/89/.291/14 in 505 ABs

12. Yoenis Cespedes – Honestly, or more appropriately, Yoenisly, he’s been the most consistent player that I can think of over the last three years, but, for some reason, I can only think of two players:  Carlos Gomez and Cory Spangenberg. Will Yoenis hit 27-35 homers, .260-280 and steal three to seven bases?  Yes, and three to seven is also an Arkansas area code.   Those are facts!  The one big unknown with Yoenis and where he derives a lot of his value is in the counting stats’ department.  Nothing you can do if the Mets only give him 70 runs and 75 RBIs instead of 90+.  Driving around in a Camaro wearing a wife beater won’t help him.  We know this because every Mets fan has tried that already.  2017 Projections:  86/29/97/.278/5 in 550 ABs

13. Mark Trumbo – In late-January, the waiting game finally ended with Trumbo re-signing with the Orioles.  Not being able to sign with a team for four months doesn’t give anyone confidence.  If they don’t want him, why do I?  I understand that feeling you’re getting.  It’s like any good PUA will tell you, you don’t want to be the one getting negged.  Trumbo needs to re-read The Game, because Neil Strauss and/or Mystery would not have stood for the negging Trumbo dealt with all winter.  Mystery would’ve told him, if no one wants you, then put your boa back in your boa drawer, and stop acting so desperate!  I wanted to fall hard in the ‘anyone who drafts Trumbo is a sucker’ camp.  The contrarian in me alone wanted to make Smores in that camp.  The thing is, Trumbo’s always been a 35 homer hitter.  Is he a 45-homer one like he was last year?  No, that’s silly.  His HR/FB% shot up.  He did get more lift on the balls he hit, but let’s revert him to career norms.  40% fly ball rate and 20% HR/FB.  That gives him 32 homers.  So, he’s plus or minus five homers on that realistically.  Yes, obvi he can hit a lot more.   What else is there?  Steals?  Not really.  Runs and RBIs?  Sure, but that’s contingent on the O’s and kinda out of his hands.  Average?  More in his hands.  He hits too many ground balls for his not-a-runner’s body to have a great BABIP and few line drives.  He hits the ball hard, but on the ground or in the air.  He’s similar to Pujols, Khris Davis and Carlos Santana.  What are those guys?  They’re .250 hitters.  That’s Trumbo too.  So, I thought I was going into this year thinking Trumbo might be overrated, and he still might be, but it’s more about what others are expecting of him.  I know what to expect.  2017 Projections:  81/33/95/.252/2 in 557 ABs

14. Gregory Polanco – This is a new tier.  This tier goes from here until the top 40 outfielders for 2017 fantasy baseball.  I call this tier, “IDWTFLISFSITOBHWR.”  Which obviously stands for:  I Don’t Want To Feel Like I’m Struggling For Sexy In The Outfielders, But Here We aRe.  Don’t ask why the acronym used the first letter of every word then uses an R for are.  Don’t question acronyms, in general.  It’s not your job.  So, yeah, I didn’t wanna have to rank Upton, Bautista, CarGo, and some other old outfielders in the top 20, so I decided to break it up with more interesting names.  Don’t worry, when I do the top 40 outfielders tomorrow, you’ll get them all.  As for Polanco, reminds me a bit of a great pitcher.  Think Scherzer.  The Ks are there when he was young, he just needed the rest of the puzzle to fall into place.  Polanco’s the same.  We’ve gotten pieces:  20+ homers last year; 25+ steals two years ago.  Now put them together!  In my gut, I say Polanco is a top 20 overall player just waiting to bust out.  You don’t often have 25/25 potential with upside from there.  Polanco does.  Long live Brocktune!  2017 Projections:  77/23/89/.262/24 in 572 ABs

15. A.J. Pollock – Here’s a riddle for you:  if Pollock had followed up his huge 2015 season with a terrible, but healthy season last year, would he have fell further in the 2017 rankings then he did by just not playing?  My thoughts:  I kinda want ramen for lunch.  My on-topic thoughts:  Pollock is higher in rankings by not playing than if he would’ve played poorly.  We still don’t know if his 20/39 season is repeatable.  I didn’t think it was repeatable last preseason, and still don’t, but I did project him for 14/27 last year coming off his 20/39 season, and, relatively, he still looks like that hitter to me.  Maybe his new normal is 10% HR/FB with a 32% fly ball rate vs. an under-9% HR/FB pre-2015 or 13% in 2015.  10% HR/FB with 160 fly balls (~30% Fly ball rate) is still only 16 homers.  So how many Pollocks does it take to hit 20 homers again?  One to hit the ball and seven hundred to dig up the outfield fences and move them in fifteen feet.  2017 Projections:   97/16/61/.273/26 in 581 ABs

16. Wil Myers – Went over him in the top 20 1st basemen for 2017 fantasy baseball.

17. Christian Yelich – He holds the new modern record for the most home runs with the lowest fly ball rate (since 2000).  You don’t need a pocket protector and solar calculator to figure this out.  If a guy doesn’t hit fly balls, he’s not going to hit home runs.  Pretty straight forward.  Only one player ever (since 2000, but ‘ever’ sounds better, and it was easier for me to research) hit 15 homers with a fly ball rate at 20% or lower — Cap’n Jetes.  Jeter and Yelich actually profile pretty closely.  Lots of ground balls, no fly balls, both like their girls in their teens, only Yelich is a teenager so it’s understandable.  2017 Projections:  87/15/92/.303/17 in 585 ABs

18. Jackie Bradley Jr. – Fun fact!  Jackie Bradley Sr. once walked three times in a day, according to his FitBit.  I fully expected to look at JBJ’s peripherals and think that he played way over his head last year with 26 HRs and 9 SBs.  I came away thinking Betts was playing more over his head than Bradley.  Sorry, old habit of needing to put down at least one Red Sox player if promoting another one.  Bradley’s HR/FB% was a little high, but not especially if you throw out his lost year in 2014 when he hit only one homer in 127 games.  Since then, he has 36 homers in 230 games or one homer every six or so games.  Not talking Giancarlo here, but for a guy with 10-steal speed and a .270 average, JBJ’s a lot more interesting than I expected and I don’t think last year was a fluke.  Porcello’s year?  Now that was a fluke.  Sorry, old habits.  2017 Projections:  82/27/92/.271/8 in 567 ABs

19. Max Kepler – Already gave you my Max Kepler sleeper.  It was written while pasting a picture of Denzel on my face.  2017 Projections:  74/23/85/.266/14 in 548 ABs

20. Carlos Gonzalez –  This is a new tier.  This tier goes from here until top 40 outfielders for 2017 fantasy baseball.  I call this tier, “Boring, and I didn’t misspell boing.”  This is another old as dirt tier that I wanted to separate from the gray-haired tier in the top 20 outfielders.  Not because these guys are older, but because they have less upside and are more boring.  Drafting these guys kinda feels like sending flowers for an anniversary.  It’s nice, but you kinda phoned it in, didn’t you?  As for CarGo, I know, I know, I know!  I keep saying you can’t go wrong with Rockies hitters.  Get as many you can!  So, I would draft CarGo, but A) He’s old and brittle.  B) I don’t know if he’s going to be on the Rockies all year.  C) There’s no C.  D) Why would you think there’s a D if there was no C?  To give you a little insider info about how my ranking of CarGo went.  I ranked him at 13th overall, then got cold feet about his 25-homer previous season, moved him down to 19th, then thought Coors and moved him up to 15th, then thought about his health and a possible trade and moved him here.  And that’s how this CarWent.  2017 Projections:  83/27/91/.278/3 in 580 ABs

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Det. John Kimble
Det. John Kimble
5 years ago

Really excited to get back to fantasy baseball.

H2H 10-team keeper league. $260 budget. League counts walks and hits in addition to standard categories.

Can keep 2 of these 3.

Wil Myers for $6
Mark Trumbo $6
Jose Abreu $17

Thanks for your help.

BraveArnie
BraveArnie
5 years ago

Hey and thanks for the great advice, won 2 rings in a row thanks to razzie!
16 teams, 5×5 with ops i/o avg, 6 keepers, who do i keep?

Goldschmidt 43$
Rizzo 33$
Quintana 16$
Bregman 3$
Segura 2$
Hosmer 5$
jon gray 3$

Thanks!!

Bill Lumbergh
Bill Lumbergh
5 years ago

Is my Dread Pirate still top 100? Oh how the mighty have fallen…

Bill Lumbergh
Bill Lumbergh
Reply to  Grey
5 years ago

@Grey: Gotcha. After 3 rounds in my 30-team dynasty slow draft I’ve managed to land Rizzo, Stanton, & A. Russell. Not sure where to go next… Thinking pitcher, but best on the board are Hill, Sanchez, Matz, Salazar, & Greinke. None of them get me that excited – you?? Thx!

DonnieB
DonnieB
5 years ago

Torn….do you keep Machado at $56 or Starling Marte at $43. Both are in their price range in draft. Thanks Grey.

Kris
Kris
5 years ago

Grey someone in my league 12 team, 20 keeper league just traded:

Giancarlo Stanton Xander Bogaerts and Anthony Rendon
For
Nolan Arenado Addison Russell and Brad Miller

What side do you like better, Stanton or arenado

Thanks

Kris
Kris
Reply to  Grey
5 years ago

Yeah but think about all he gave up, do you think the difference between arenado and Stanton out weighs the difference between Russell and bogaerts. Also which gap do you think is larger?

For an Armenianless vacation come to Akron
For an Armenianless vacation come to Akron
Reply to  Kris
5 years ago

@Kris: try reading the other messages, you can scoop your leaguemates, but this has got to be the closest i’ve ever seen 2 guys in a league asking about same trade, only way it’d be funnier is if the other side of that trade was here, which you still might be here kris.

FeverDog
FeverDog
5 years ago

Grey,

I’ve had a shit storm of a year, so I’m not even sure if I’m going to be playing this year. I’ve been running our league since 2005, so it’s gonna be hard to walk away. If I do not, which three of these mugs should I keep? One has to be 25 or younger so that pretty much makes Correa a lock. Who should I hand onto?

Thanks as always.

Arenado
Belt
Correa
Hosmer
Marte
Polanco
Rizzo
Strasburg

FeverDog
FeverDog
Reply to  FeverDog
5 years ago

@FeverDog: hang*

FeverDog
FeverDog
Reply to  Grey
5 years ago

@Grey: Thank you!

Cano Soup For You
Cano Soup For You
5 years ago

Trumbo, Bregman, or Harvey as a last keeper in a vacuum? Graci padre!

Jimbo
Jimbo
5 years ago

6×6 h2h – QS and total bases are the added category.

Is it wise to punt saves and load up on SP’s?

Jimbo
Jimbo
Reply to  Grey
5 years ago

@Grey:

Are home run hitters more valuable with Total Bases being added on? XBH guys as well?

Matt
Matt
5 years ago

Grey major advice here

Would you move bogaerts Stanton and rendon for Nolan arenado Addison Russell and brad miller

12 team 20 keepers 7×7 head to head format??

Matt
Matt
Reply to  Grey
5 years ago

great thanks

Ned Shakeshaft
Ned Shakeshaft
5 years ago

Wow, Grey, you kind of went all fifty shades on us there.

I know the SP ranking is only a few days away, but can I your pick between Paxton and Smyly, single season 5×5? Thanks.

Malicious Phenoms
Malicious Phenoms
Reply to  Ned Shakeshaft
5 years ago

@Ned Shakeshaft:
Paxton, not close

Oh, wait, I am not Grey, I do have some gray hair, if that counts.

Ned Shakeshaft
Ned Shakeshaft
Reply to  Grey
5 years ago

@Grey: Thanks!

Mrs. Featherbottom
Mrs. Featherbottom
5 years ago

I just got back from Europe and am loving these rankings! 2 pitchers I’m super high on this year: Alex Wood and David Phelps. Think either will be SPs, or more middle relief?

Malicious Phenoms
Malicious Phenoms
Reply to  Mrs. Featherbottom
5 years ago

@Mrs. Featherbottom:

Traveling in Europe will make you super high.

Those two are bullpen pieces..

Where did you go when you were on my side of the pond?

Mrs. Featherbottom
Mrs. Featherbottom
Reply to  Grey
5 years ago

@Grey: If given the chance, I think Wood could be a top 10 in total Ks for the year.
We went to the Netherlands, Belgium and Germany. I ate horse, and it was greasy.
Really cool trip though – saw some amazing old mining ruins in northern Germany.

Mrs. Featherbottom
Mrs. Featherbottom
Reply to  Grey
5 years ago

@Grey: Not sure about speed – he had a 9.85 k/9 last year (i looked that up). I just remember him striking out a ton in the games he pitched. Think he was DL’d in July though for a lat thing,
Did you go anywhere in the Netherlands besides Amsterdam? We hit up Delft and The Hague – saw the Escher museum.

Mrs. Featherbottom
Mrs. Featherbottom
Reply to  Grey
5 years ago

@Grey: I got a little white elephant – ended up back in our hotel watching and laughing at television shows dubbed in Dutch. “Dat de mens Grey is een goede honkbal schrijver”. Plenty of frites here as well.

Mrs. Featherbottom
Mrs. Featherbottom
Reply to  Grey
5 years ago

@Grey: Ha!

SwaggerJackers
SwaggerJackers
5 years ago

It’s a weird world when Ian Desmond is above Giancarlo Stanton. Come on Stanton!

I’ll still have a hard time pulling the trigger on Cruz or Braun. You know that as soon as you do, the wheels will fall off.

SwaggerJackers
SwaggerJackers
Reply to  Grey
5 years ago

@Grey: And Stanton was surprisingly frustrating to own when healthy last season too.

April: .253 AVG / 8 HR
May: .173 AVG / 4 HR
June: .231 AVG / 3 HR

The 8 homers were nice in April but then he went into a Jay Bruce style slump for 2 months.

peacecoast
peacecoast
5 years ago

Grey!

thoughts on VV this year? I could keep him in round 27! instead of mazara in 20?

Big W
Big W
5 years ago

Thank you Grey… been looking forward to the start of your OF rankings. It’s a great day thanks to Grey!

Thank you!

-Big W

Bobbo
Bobbo
5 years ago

A big thanks as always for everything.
Early keeper question.
12 team 5×5 h2h 3 forever keepers no restrictions
Of these options, which 3 would you keep?

Josh Donaldson
Freddie Freeman
Starling Marte
Giancarlo Stanton
Nelson Cruz
Max Scherzer
AJ Pollock

Thanks a ton!

Moneyball
Moneyball
Reply to  Bobbo
5 years ago

Freeman over Giancarlo… the 2016 election clearly changed everything.

Spot
Spot
5 years ago

Love the post about your Top 10’s and 20’s. Could you please help me with the decision about my final keepers? I am going to keep Manny Machado and Nolan Arenado without a doubt. I can add 3 players to my final list. I am not sure if Anthony Rizzo is that much better than Freddie Freeman. I am able to keep Rizzo over Freeman, but in order to do do so I would have to drop relative bargains like Daniel Murphy and Yu Darvish. I could also opt for Chris Sale, Jake Arrieta or Jacob deGrom instead of Rizzo or Freeman. In short, these are my options:

1) Machado, Arenado, Rizzo (plus Wade Davis and Jacob deGrom);
2) Machado, Arenado, Freeman (plus Murphy and Darvish);
3) Machado, Arenado, Sale/Arrieta/deGrom (plus Murphy and Darvish).

It is an OBP league. I am looking forward to your advice.

Spot
Spot
Reply to  Grey
5 years ago

@Grey: Thanks, Grey. Could you please tell me if you would rather keep Sale (move to Fenway scares me a bit), Arrieta (not sure if he is still an ace) or deGrom (injury is of concern)?

Duda Want to Build a Snowman?
Duda Want to Build a Snowman?
5 years ago

Very curious where Khris falls in comparison to flashier guys like Buxton, etc.

The Grand Poppy
The Grand Poppy
5 years ago

Polanco was killing it early and then fell apart somewhere around mid-June/early July. Would the real Gregory Polanco please stand up??? What’s your take on his 2nd half decline?

The Grand Poppy
The Grand Poppy
Reply to  Grey
5 years ago

@Grey: 287/362/500 1st half; 220/267/414 2nd half

The Grand Poppy
The Grand Poppy
Reply to  Grey
5 years ago

@Grey: Boom! That’s helpful. Thank you. Any reason to belive he can’t maintain an above average BABIP going forward?

The Grand Poppy
The Grand Poppy
Reply to  Grey
5 years ago

@Grey: You’re projection of .262 for him seems to imply last year’s K rate and contact rate with roughly a .300 BABIP. Am I seeing that right? Seems like another step forward is likely imo

Malicious Phenoms
Malicious Phenoms
Reply to  The Grand Poppy
5 years ago

@The Grand Poppy:
Polanco was hurt most of the 2nd half..

Brian
Brian
5 years ago

16 team dynasty league h2h. 6×6 with QS instead of W and K/BB. been in playoffs 4 straight years, winning in 2015 and finishing 2nd last year. But lost jofer.

wondering if the remnants of my staff still stack up or i should prioritize trading for a SP. right now i have price, salazar, gausman, duffy, quintana, teheran, sonny gray, clay, alex reyes, liriano with gsellman, adalberto mejia, marquez, clevinger, and jorge lopez on my minors roster for depth. look solid for a 16 teamer or a littler light?

thanks grey!

mcmi11ions
mcmi11ions
5 years ago

GAH! This offseason I made a trade in my 10 player keeper league, I gave up Dahl and my 1st pick for Sale and a 6th rounder (since we hold onto 10, the first rounder is like an 11th). The guy wanted Dahl or Benintendi. I thought Benintendi was going to give me back more “across the board” value, and him having been named the top prospect in the “Pipeline Poll” had me excited. but now I’m second guessing myself. Fingers crossed Benintendi shows up in the top 40 tomorrow.

mcmi11ions
mcmi11ions
Reply to  Grey
5 years ago

@Grey: Think it was a solid trade? If I didn’t make the move my only SP going into the year would have been Harvey and deGrom… I felt like I needed something as close to a sure thing as I could get. I know every trade is specific to team scenarios and whatnot, so something that might look off in a vacuum is a solid move in context. I’m happy made the move. Just need to see if I’d have been happier if i moved the other guy.

Cram It
Cram It
Reply to  mcmi11ions
5 years ago

@mcmi11ions: It’s a keeper league…these are 2017 rankings. Nothing saying Benintendi won’t be better for you than Dahl in the long run.

mcmi11ions
mcmi11ions
Reply to  Cram It
5 years ago

@Cram It: That’s my thinking… I’m going really young with my team this year to try and build long term success. Hopefully I’m betting on the right prospects. Love trying to find the mix between being competitive now and ensuring long term success.

Jason
Jason
5 years ago

Hi Grey,

In a H2H keeper “keep forever” league which player would you prefer now and for the future – Lester or Segura?

I have Lester but I’m thinking of trading him for Segura + a draft pick in this year’s draft. Am I crazy to be considering this?

Chucky
Chucky
5 years ago

Keep forever, no contracts. Stanton, Pollock, Betts and Dahl. Which ONE goes?

Malicious Phenoms
Malicious Phenoms
Reply to  Chucky
5 years ago

@Chucky:
AJ

The Great Knoche
The Great Knoche
5 years ago

Fuck Shirley’s been grumpy lately….

Think you’re focused too much on your Trumboner.

No CarGone? Think I’d rather take the chance on him in that lineup, (Come on…he can stay healthy for 3 straight years). His fly ball% and HR/FB% were way down last year and should bounce back, Or you more worried about a trade?

Big Odio
Big Odio
Reply to  Grey
5 years ago

@Grey: agreed there. Those % might have gone down but he sold out flyballs for line drives and hit the ball hard. Tells me he’s aging for the good of the team…you know what I mean. Cargo is more Carpedestrian

Cram It
Cram It
5 years ago

Insider info: Yasmany Tomas will finish as a top 15 OF.

Malicious Phenoms
Malicious Phenoms
Reply to  Cram It
5 years ago

@Cram It:
Will he stay in the desert or do they trade him to a non-hitters park…Just a thought.

Cram It
Cram It
Reply to  Malicious Phenoms
5 years ago

@Malicious Phenoms: Why would they trade him? Regardless, as I’ve said before, I don’t worry about a player’s value on the speculation of changing teams.

The Great Knoche
The Great Knoche
Reply to  Cram It
5 years ago

@Cram It: Just not enough ABs to go around the outfield, and while he may give Baaa a break heree and there I dont see how he gets over 500 ABs

Cram It
Cram It
Reply to  The Great Knoche
5 years ago

@The Great Knoche: I’m under the impression the expected OF is Tomas, Pollock, Peralta. Who’s the threat?

The Great Knoche
The Great Knoche
Reply to  Cram It
5 years ago

@Cram It: Still going to find a way to get Drury ABs and Brito may steal a few (ABs)

Cram It
Cram It
Reply to  The Great Knoche
5 years ago

@The Great Knoche: Drury can do that at 2B. He should be starting their IMO.

The Great Knoche
The Great Knoche
Reply to  Cram It
5 years ago

@Cram It: Agree, but a lot of what I have seen has Owings and Marte up the middle in some combination and Drury being Zobristesque, all over the field

Malicious Phenoms
Malicious Phenoms
Reply to  Cram It
5 years ago

@Cram It:
I read on Rumors that the Dbacks do not like his defense..

Cram It
Cram It
Reply to  Malicious Phenoms
5 years ago

@Malicious Phenoms: I put zero credibility in something called Rumors on the name alone. Was it written by Perez Hilton?

Big Odio
Big Odio
Reply to  Malicious Phenoms
5 years ago

@Malicious Phenoms: you don’t need to read that it’s obvious. That’s been the knock on him since day 1.

Malicious Phenoms
Malicious Phenoms
Reply to  Big Odio
5 years ago

@Big Odio:
We all know his D sucks, my point was the Dbags have been trying to trade him since last year and with new bosses in place, if they can find a trade partner he will be gone..

The Great Knoche
The Great Knoche
Reply to  Cram It
5 years ago

@Cram It: Insider Info: Cram’s drunk again.

Cram It
Cram It
Reply to  Grey
5 years ago

@Grey: Right, that’s what I’m saying, 34/95/.280/7

Cram It
Cram It
Reply to  Grey
5 years ago

@Grey: Totally, 33/90/.275/5, it’s just a prediction that will put him in the top 15.

Copperhead Road
Copperhead Road
Reply to  Cram It
5 years ago

@Cram It: No way he gets 7 SBs. As George Steinbrener would say, “he’s a big, fat toad.”
And MP is right. They don’t ike his defense so ABs could be a problem.

scott
scott
5 years ago

I’m in a 12 team auction keeper league. $330 salary 30 player roster. Who would you keep out of the following players below. Salary is next to there name. I can keep up to 7 players for 3 yrs max. Each year there salary goes up $5

JT Realmuto $3
Trea Turner $3
Joe Ross $3
Aaron Nola $3
Tyler Glasnow $3
Luke Weaver $5 off waivers
Ketel Marte $8
Jackie Bradley Jr $5 off waivers
Marcell Ozuna $3
Byron Buxton $5 off waivers
Adam Duvall $5 off waivers
Jose Berrios $2
Tanner Roark $5 off waivers
Gregory Polanco $23
Anthony Rizzo $42
Kris Bryant $41
R Odor $18

Malicious Phenoms
Malicious Phenoms
Reply to  scott
5 years ago

@scott:

My seven:
Trea Turner $3
Jackie Bradley Jr $5 off waivers
Byron Buxton $5 off waivers
Gregory Polanco $23
Anthony Rizzo $42
Kris Bryant $41
R Odor $18

Cram It
Cram It
Reply to  scott
5 years ago

@scott: I agree with MP

James T Kirk
James T Kirk
5 years ago

No McCutchen?! I get that he deserves to drop, but no chance he does not end the season a top 20 outfielder. I’ll go a step further to predict he is easily a top 10 outfielder. He’s too good to just drop off like this.

James T Kirk
James T Kirk
Reply to  James T Kirk
5 years ago

@James T Kirk:

And I will go another step to predict (outside of stolen bases) ‘Cutch has a much better season than Turner (who people are getting ahead of themselves in regards to him).

Malicious Phenoms
Malicious Phenoms
Reply to  James T Kirk
5 years ago

@James T Kirk:
I concur, Cutch over Turner..

Cram It
Cram It
Reply to  James T Kirk
5 years ago

@James T Kirk: When you’re talking about fantasy, SB’s factor into rankings. Cutch’s 23 HR’s/85 RBI aren’t as useful when not complimented with 20+ SB and a .300 avg.

Copperhead Road
Copperhead Road
Reply to  Grey
5 years ago

@Grey: Because he was younger then. He had a lot to work on in his development as a player.

For an Armenianless vacation come to Akron
For an Armenianless vacation come to Akron
Reply to  Grey
5 years ago

@Grey: he wasn’t a top 20 OF either last year.

Duda Want to Build a Snowman?
Duda Want to Build a Snowman?
5 years ago

With the depth at MI in particular, I feel like I’ll be planning to grab 1 top 9 guy, dip back in for a not struggling to be sexy tier guy, then hang back and wait for all the fun power speed guys that will be dirt cheap (like Rajai, Brox, Kiermaier, etc…)

Duda Want to Build a Snowman?
Duda Want to Build a Snowman?
Reply to  Grey
5 years ago

@Grey: Always Frazier. Actually, I finally rec’d a Fraizer opportunity . . .

$30 Kershaw and $6 Khris for $11 Arrieta and $19 Frazier, in a keep 7 @ $3 inflation roto 12 teamer.

The current winner you picked yesterday was $20 Kluber and $9 Desmond instead.

Duda Want to Build a Snowman?
Duda Want to Build a Snowman?
Reply to  Grey
5 years ago

@Grey: Thanks! So, we’re sticking with the Kluber offer, right? Help me navigate my Frazier obsession!

Duda Want to Build a Snowman?
Duda Want to Build a Snowman?
Reply to  Grey
5 years ago

@Grey: Hi everyone, my name is . . . well, it’s basically Todd Frazier, but with different letters.

Duda Want to Build a Snowman?
Duda Want to Build a Snowman?
Reply to  Grey
5 years ago

@Grey: BAHHHHHHHH. Just when you think that we’ve squeezed everything that we could out of this joke.

Ante GALIC
Ante GALIC
5 years ago

Grey!

Love the post, love the rankings, love ye!

a. Can’t wait to see how the top 300 goes! That will be the icing on the cake to this marvelous ‘biscuit’ layer we are enjoying right now! It’s like listening to Astronomy Domine for the first time all over again or hearing Yogi Berra quotes for the first time all over again like deja vu all over again.

b. Big mission approaching the office from Don Ameche. I finished the report as the true slacker /procrastinator fashionista that I am in the last minute.

c. Kudos to Kisenosato!! First Japanese-born sumo wrestling yokozuna (grand champion) since 1998!!!

The previous five are as follows.

Musashimaru Koyo – 1999 – (Born in Hawaii)
Asashoryu Akinori – 2003 – (Born in Mongolia)
Hakuho Sho – 2007 – (Born in Mongolia)
Harumafuji Kohei – 2012 – (Born in Mongolia)
Kakuryu Rikisaburo – 2014 – (Born in Mongolia)

He’s officially very big in Japan.

Cheers,
Ante

Clive
Clive
5 years ago

Can keep 5 of:

Rd 18 – Bryant
Rd 8 – Harper
Rd 20 – Correa
Rd 14 – Story
Rd 12 – Strasburg
Rd 22 – Dahl
Rd 22 – Moncada

Which 5 would you go with? Will get to keep them at similar value each year.. thanks!

Captain Obvious
Captain Obvious
Reply to  Clive
5 years ago

@Clive:
Is this a serious question? You’re keeping the first 5 you listed and it’s not even close.

JeF WiTh 1 F
JeF WiTh 1 F
Reply to  Clive
5 years ago

@Clive: Bryant, Harper, Correa, Dahl, Stras for me.

Malicious Phenoms
Malicious Phenoms
Reply to  Clive
5 years ago

@Clive:
I agree with F

For an Armenianless vacation come to Akron
For an Armenianless vacation come to Akron
Reply to  Grey
5 years ago

@Grey: i’m with grey and it’s not obvious, stras is more injury prone than stanton and harvey.

For an Armenianless vacation come to Akron
For an Armenianless vacation come to Akron

@For an Armenianless vacation come to Akron: IF it’s not obvious, it should be.

cheez whit
cheez whit
5 years ago

Is Buxton close? He seemed to figure it out late last year. Hoping he’s at least a top 30 guy this year.

Cheese
Cheese
5 years ago

It felt weird scrolling/reading through this and a top 20 actually stopping at 20. Looking forward to the next 20 tomorrow :)

IheartGiancarlo
IheartGiancarlo
Reply to  Cheese
5 years ago

@Cheese: haha I though the same thing! What is this?? A top 20 with only 20 players?? This must be the new world of alternative facts.

JeF WiTh 1 F
JeF WiTh 1 F
5 years ago

Whats your 8 Keepers from this group..Or who’s out

Y. Cespedes
M. Franco
D. Gordon
A. Russell
C. Seager
E. Hosmer
G. Polanco
G. Springer
N. Mazara
C. Yelich
J. Bautista

For me i’m losing Bautista, Mazara and Russell. Curious if you do the same…I keep flip flopping between Yelich and Mazara…Not in love with Hosmer but if i let him go there will be basically no good 1st basemen to grab other than lottery tickets…I took over this team last year and tanked so i would have 8 solid keepers for this season. Whats your thoughts boo.

Malicious Phenoms
Malicious Phenoms
Reply to  JeF WiTh 1 F
5 years ago

@JeF WiTh 1 F:
I would try and trade for a better 1B.

I would keep these 7, plus a better 1B
Y. Cespedes
D. Gordon
A. Russell
C. Seager
G. Polanco
G. Springer
C. Yelich

JeF WiTh 1 F
JeF WiTh 1 F
Reply to  Malicious Phenoms
5 years ago

@Malicious Phenoms: Trade isn’t happening, ..I wouldn’t keep Russell over Franco either

Burningbridges247
Burningbridges247
Reply to  JeF WiTh 1 F
5 years ago

@JeF WiTh 1 F: What are your costs on those guys? I’m struggling with keeping Springer at $35 or Mazara at $5. Afraid if I let Springer go, with inflation, he is going to creep close to $40 in our draft.

JeF WiTh 1 F
JeF WiTh 1 F
Reply to  Burningbridges247
5 years ago

@Burningbridges247: No costs in this league…I’d keep Springer at $35 though if you can afford to.

Burningbridges247
Burningbridges247
Reply to  JeF WiTh 1 F
5 years ago

@JeF WiTh 1 F: Thanks, F. That is how I’m leaning. I would rather be at the end and pay a few more $$$ for Mazara if I had to than pay huge $$$ at the front of the auction and be crippled.

JeF WiTh 1 F
JeF WiTh 1 F
Reply to  Grey
5 years ago

@Grey: We are on the same page then

JeF WiTh 1 F
JeF WiTh 1 F
5 years ago

Yelich is in his room right now crying because a guy who didn’t play last year is ranked ahead of him…I’m higher on him than you so i will go talk to him.

JeF WiTh 1 F
JeF WiTh 1 F
Reply to  Grey
5 years ago

@Grey: But Yelich is so young he just cant take it

JeF WiTh 1 F
JeF WiTh 1 F
Reply to  Grey
5 years ago

@Grey: That too

Sing Us a Vogelsong You're the Pineda Man
Sing Us a Vogelsong You're the Pineda Man
5 years ago

Mayhaps divide the two main types of sleepers? Just have one as a sleeper (normal surprising guy) and then a breakout category (where the player’s success isn’t that surprising and has top 30-or whatever pick value.

Just a thought. Thanks for the write-ups! I have no quarrel with them.

Sing Us a Vogelsong You're the Pineda Man
Sing Us a Vogelsong You're the Pineda Man
Reply to  Grey
5 years ago

@Grey: Understandable. I’m loving the rankings.

Jon Boba
Jon Boba
5 years ago

So as I read this, for my AL only, only 6 of the top 20 qualify meaning good luck finding 5 starters. This is worse than C or 1B. Gonna need some hidden gems for sure (not named DeShields that is – still trying to live that pick down!).

Malicious Phenoms
Malicious Phenoms
Reply to  Jon Boba
5 years ago

@Jon Boba:
I would not give up on Desheilds. He will have no pressure of a starting job this year and is still only 24.

Plus who knows which Cargomez shows up in 2017.

I would use a very late pick on Delino, cause someone will take a chance, might as well be you..

Burningbridges247
Burningbridges247
Reply to  Malicious Phenoms
5 years ago

@Malicious Phenoms: Got to agree with Phenoms. I am a Rangers fan and I watched him at the beginning of the year- early- before it all fell apart. He was stealing bags and driving the ball hard, and then crashed and burned. if you can get him with very minor investment, he is worth it. I’m going to pick him up as a bench player and pray. Worst thing is you drop him after a month and pick up the hot schmato.

Malicious Phenoms
Malicious Phenoms
Reply to  Grey
5 years ago

@Grey:
If there is no one better late in any of your drafts, I would take a shot at Delino, no wait put down that gun, Lee Harvey. I mean add Delino to your roster..hehe

Malicious Phenoms
Malicious Phenoms
Reply to  Grey
5 years ago

@Grey:
No, I said he has NO pressure, cause he does NOT have a starting job..

Gomez cud be Meh again and Choo is on the DL at least once a month…lol

I wud add Delino late in drafts and hope he gets a good amount of AB’s and who knows what he might put up..

A good late flyer, with nothing to lose..

Malicious Phenoms
Malicious Phenoms
Reply to  Grey
5 years ago

@Grey:
Ok, but don’t forget where you heard it, if dude breaks out this year..hehe

Burningbridges247
Burningbridges247
Reply to  Grey
5 years ago

@Grey: You KNOW that Choo Choo train gets derailed at some point. The questions will be how well is DeShields doing at that point and how long is Choo down for.

Delino DeShields Jr.
Delino DeShields Jr.
Reply to  Grey
5 years ago

@Grey: Hello, it’s me . . .

Burningbridges247
Burningbridges247
Reply to  Grey
5 years ago

@Grey: Can’t argue with that.

DisEnFranchised
DisEnFranchised
Reply to  Jon Boba
5 years ago

@Jon Boba: You’re awfully pessimistic about starters. Your starters are relative to your league environment and not overall top 20-40 rankings. You’ll be hard pressed to convince me to draft a C before my 3rd or 5th OF in any league with any format. There is a lot more offensive talent in the OF than at C and position scarcity is a myth.

Robert
Robert
Reply to  DisEnFranchised
5 years ago

@DisEnFranchised: And he wouldn’t hard or soft press you to do either. Catchers should be punted, and it would take all of 3 seconds to see that the tier in his top 20 catchers post basically makes it to where you will have at least 3 or 4, if not all 5 OF before you draft a catcher if you are smart.

As to starters, it is not overly difficult to make up starter value if you don’t touch a starter in the first 4-5 rounds because of the depth of starters and the fact that many of next years top 20 starters on ESPN will be pitchers they have ranked in the 60s and 70s now. There is a lot of turnover at the top each year on pitching, so better to draft high value from players that are more consistent (E.G. hitters)

DisEnFranchised
DisEnFranchised
Reply to  Robert
5 years ago

@Robert: my thoughts were directed at Boba fretting over starting OF and not SPs. Even in AL/NL only I’d punt C. As for 1B I’d try to be strong there but strength is still relative to the league type, etc.

Mrs. Featherbottom
Mrs. Featherbottom
5 years ago

NICE! Love the Dahl ranking – still perplexed by the Turner.

Malicious Phenoms
Malicious Phenoms
Reply to  Mrs. Featherbottom
5 years ago

@Mrs. Featherbottom:
I am staying away from Story and Turner, both will be drafted to high and will not live up to the pick and the projections. We saw what happened to Correa and Desields and many others in their sophomore season..

For an Armenianless vacation come to Akron
For an Armenianless vacation come to Akron
Reply to  Malicious Phenoms
5 years ago

@Malicious Phenoms: deshields wasn’t ranked that high by anybody other than greysif. i’m not bitching here as i did own him in about 80% of leagues, including some dynasties where he was traded for.

Mrs. Featherbottom
Mrs. Featherbottom
Reply to  Grey
5 years ago

@Grey: I like Turner – just realizing he likely won’t be on my team this year – Story on the other hand is another Story.
Did you see the Greenpeace action at the White house today?