Went over the catchers1st basemen2nd basemen and shortstops and top 20 3rd basemen for 2014 fantasy baseball.  Guess what’s next!  No, not pitchers. Read the title, man.  In 2010, there were only 5 outfielders that hit 30 homers, in 2011 there were 9, 14 in 2012 and in 2013 there were 3.  This year, small bounce back with 6.  That did just mean there were less homers from other positions though, it didn’t mean a bounce back all around for baseball.  We are only a few years away from someone leading the league with 25 homers.  Steals were still around.  There were 14 outfielders who stole 30 bases in 2012, 10 in 2013 and this year there were 11.  As before, these rankings are from our Fantasy Baseball Player Rater with my comments.  Anyway, here’s the top 20 outfielders for 2014 fantasy baseball and how they compare to where I originally ranked them:

1. Mike Trout – I’d be liar if I said I wasn’t concerned about the huge difference in how many steals he should’ve had (35 thereabouts), and how many steals he did have (16 exactabouts).  Hate to see his steals go the way of the dodo simply because his real baseball value is so much for the Angels they can’t risk him being injured on a steal.  That’s gotta be the worst reason for anyone to lose fantasy value, to preserve real baseball value.  As the Iron Sheik would say, ptooey!  Sorry, if you’re reading this aloud and you just spit on your monitor.  Preseason Rank #1, 2014 Projections:  115/30/102/.319/35, Final Numbers:  115/36/111/.287/16

2. Giancarlo Stanton – In the beginning of the year, I dreamt of a world where Giancarlo’s underwear drawer was large enough that I could fit comfortably inside without disturbing his beautifully folded gotchies.  Never did I imagine he’d match my home run projections, blow away all my other projections and allow me to do renovations on his underwear drawer so I could stretch out while I slept in there.  I wonder if I can fit a fan in here.  It’s stuffy.  Preseason Rank #10, 2014 Projections:  79/36/89/.264/4, Final Numbers: 89/37/105/.288/13

3. Michael Brantley – From my sleeper post last year, “I’ve gone to this well more times than Baby Jessica’s rescuers, but in Triple-A, Brantley stole 46 bases in 116 games.  Now, unless the bases are closer than 90 feet at the Indians’ Triple-A affiliate in Columbus (who, by the way, would’ve approved of the team name Indians, but would’ve thought he was on a different continent), I don’t think that kind of speed just disappears.  Kipnis has stolen a ton of bases with the Indians, so there’s no red light across the organization.  Maybe Brantley has just taken longer to get acclimated to the major leagues than any other red-blooded man (that’s red-blooded man, protestor looking for a fight over the Indians logo and mascot).  Brantley is also entering his 27-year-old season (around the age when hitters come into their own) and just finished his biggest power year.  Sure, it was only ten homers, but if he can get to 15 homers and somehow, some way manage to find those other 30 steals that he left back in the minors, he’ll be a top 15 outfielder for all of baseball, not just the AL.”  And that’s me quoting me!  Loved Brantley in the preseason, you knew about it, you’re welcome.  Preseason Rank #48, 2014 Projections:  69/12/77/.280/20, Final Numbers:  94/20/97/.327/23

4. Jose Bautista – Went over him in the top 20 1st basemen.

5. Nelson Cruz – Yup, I was taken by surprise by Cruz’s season, but other than Boras, who pushed Cruz to a one-year deal, everyone was surprised by Cruz’s season.  Seems like every year the O’s have some guy come out of nowhere to hit a shizzton of homers.  Here’s to Schoop in 2015!  Preseason Rank #44, 2014 Projections:  60/25/74/.259/6, Final Numbers: 87/40/108/.271/4

6. Carlos Gomez – Finally, we have someone that is nearly right on for projections and end-of-the-season stats so we can compare to how much offense I thought there would be vs. how much offense there actually was.  Gomez matched projections almost identically and yet my ranking was 12 guys off.  12 guys that should’ve been better that just weren’t here.  Like Al from Happy Days, yep, yep, yep.  Preseason Rank #18, 2014 Projections:  84/22/71/.259/35, Final Numbers: 95/23/73/.284/34

7. Andrew McCutchen – Since there was a landmine behind just about every door in the first round, The Dread Pirate didn’t kill anyone’s year.  He led the NL in OPS (3rd in majors) and…Ugh, I’m worried about his steals coming down too.   Since he’s going to be 28 next year, it’s gonna be something to watch.  If he goes from a 25/18 guy to a 21/12 guy, we could be looking at the beginning of the end of The Dread Pirate in the top 10 overall.  Preseason Rank #2, 2014 Projections:  91/25/94/.320/24, Final Numbers: 89/25/83/.314/18

8. Adam Jones – See what I said about McCutchen?  Okay, now look at Jones’s steals last year.  Luckily, Jones has more power than McCutchen, though not as much average.  I have a feeling the top 10 next year is gonna be surmised with:  Well, someone’s gotta be drafted in the top ten.  Preseason Rank #3, 2014 Projections:  94/32/105/.282/15, Final Numbers: 88/29/96/.281/7

9. Justin Upton – It took a few years, but it’s clear which Upton sucks, we should’ve just used context clues.  Justin doesn’t seem remotely capable of the 20-steal speed he showed earlier in his career, but maybe at some point in his thirties he’ll grow twenty-foot arms and start flapping around the bases fast like Hunter Pence.  Preseason Rank #11, 2014 Projections:  88/25/79/.270/12, Final Numbers:  77/29/102/.270/8

10. Charlie Blackmon – As with our fine nation, the 2014 season was made possible by the sweat and tears of the unheralded Blackmon.  Trying to understand Blackmon’s season is like trying to understand how to pronounce Chiwetel Ejiofor.  (Hint:  It’s pronounced like TChiwetel Ejiofor just without the first T.)  He had some power in the minors, some speed, but never to this level.  Every once in a while, a guy comes out of nowhere and has a season that is huge, then slowly disappears again over the course of a few seasons.  Ludwick comes to mind.  I wouldn’t be surprised if we never see another season like this from Blackmon, and in a couple of years he’s a platoon player.  Preseason Unranked, Final Numbers: 82/19/72/.288/28

11. Hunter Pence – An art critic from the Barnes Foundation once said, “The Gangly Manbird is the best example of the American art form of caricatures made in a tourist locale.  The Gangly Manbird seems so life-like, but he’s really just a series of pencil markings on a sketch pad that an artist with little talent draws next to a Dippin Dots stand.”  Preseason Rank #19, 2014 Projections:  83/24/90/.262/12, Final Numbers: 106/20/74/.277/13

12. Matt Kemp – If it wasn’t for a huge final two weeks (that included a series in Coors), Kemp would’ve landed directly on my preseason projections.  Which means A) What should’ve been around the 24th most valuable outfielder was nearly top ten. B) Chris Brown was able to recover from Rihanna a lot quicker than Kemp. C) There’s no C.  Preseason Rank #24, 2014 Projections:  71/22/76/.266/10, Final Numbers: 77/25/89/.287/8

13. Jacoby Ellsbury – I nailed all of my preseason schmohawk posts this year and am now something like 29 for 30 in the last seven years for predicting guys that are overrated.  Ellsbury wasn’t a huge bust like some of the other ones — Kipnis and Mauer, or as obvious as Matt Carpenter.  He did come with the highest price tag in the preseason — 1st round at most sites.  (That’s the highest price tag of a preseason overrated player if you don’t count Mauer at Locoworld.)  Ellsbury ended up hitting more fly balls and less ground balls than he had in 2013, which helped him add some power, but it also hurt his average, and he probably would’ve been more valuable for fantasy and his team if he hit the ball on the ground more.  Either way, he was fine, but not a first rounder.  (Note on my projections, I figured he would have more runs due to mostly leading off not hitting third.)  Preseason Rank #13, 2014 Projections:  98/13/57/.279/32, Final Numbers:  71/16/70/.271/39

14. Yoenis Cespedes – The Human Centipede, the Yo Form Of Enis or whatever you want to call him is about as steady as they come — 25 HRs, 8 steals, .260, plus or minus 3 HRs, 2 SBs and .005, respectively.  On a larger note, there are a bunch of these 25-homer, 8-steal guys.  Not necessarily exciting if you can remember what hitters hit back in the early naughts, but also not terrible.  Preseason Rank #26, 2014 Projections:  70/25/85/.255/10, Final Numbers: 89/22/100/.260/7

15. Corey Dickerson – This might seem to be the antithesis of what you might think, but unlike Blackmon, I’m impressed by this Dickerson.  Don’t think this is the last we hear of him.  For most of you, it might be the first you’ve heard of him.  He has that thing going where as long as he plays, he will rack up stats for fantasy due to speed and power.  2014 was just the beginning.  Preseason Rank #89, 2014 Projections:  57/12/37/.274/10, Final Numbers: 74/24/76/.312/8

16. Lucas Duda – Went over him in the top 20 1st basemen.

17. Chris Carter – Went over him in the top 20 1st basemen.

18. Yasiel Puig – He had 11 homers through the end of May and he seemed headed for the big breakout that I envisioned, then suddenly Puig started to hit singles and became Charley Luau, only hitting five homers the rest of the way and only two homers from June 1st through September 15th.  In my 20/20 hindsight, it’s clear we can’t trust Puig to produce all year, because he’s flakier than C.J. Wilson’s scalp.  Preseason Rank #8, 2014 Projections:  90/28/94/.285/20, Final Numbers: 92/16/69/.296/11

19. Jayson Werth – I’ve said it before, I’ll say it many times again.  You can’t trust runs and RBIs.  You can predict power and speed.  A guy that is a 25-homer guy is a 25-homer guy; a guy with 15-steal speed can steal 15 bags.  Sure, there’s pluses and minuses with those stats even due to injuries, luck and slumps, but a hitter’s ability is his ability.  No hitters have 90-run or 90-RBI ability.  That’s solely based on his teammates.  I bring this up now because Werth’s season is totally being buoyed by runs and RBIs. (Yes, same could’ve be said of Puig, but I’m saying it now, okay?  Okay.)  Preseason Rank #22, 2014 Projections:  72/22/88/.279/10, Final Numbers: 85/16/82/.292/9

20. Matt Holliday – Not sure what’s scarier.  The fact that Holliday is a 22-homer guy plus or minus three homers with next-to-no speed or the fact that that (stutterer!) is a top 20 outfielder.  Prolly the latter, as in hitting walked up a latter with a rope.  Preseason Rank #21, 2014 Projections: 93/22/101/.292/5, Final Numbers: 83/20/90/.272/4

  1. gareth says:
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    I owned Giancarlo this year and was most impressed by the 13 steals. I love those power guys (like Goldy) that can add that sneaky speed element. A delicious cherry on top.

  2. gareth says:
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    A kid went up to Brian Sabean recently and said “I want to be a G.M.”

    Sabean was flattered, but was completely unaware the kid was a razzball follower, and the G.M abbreviation was actually “Gangly Manbird.”

  3. gareth says:
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    I selfishly want to see a cardinals royals world series just for the Billy Butler / Matt Adams factor.

    They should have jagermeister as a world series sponsor and have a “moobs like jager” spoof song.

    Also, Instead of extra innings, a tie game must be decided by who has the better “truffle shuffle. “

    • Lville Jim says:
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      @gareth: Might be a toss up if they had a wet t-shirt contest.

  4. gareth says:
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    G3!

    • MattTruss

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      @gareth: Agree this is G4, and let’s say now that we’ve used this gimmick for an entire season shall we make a new season’s resolution to retire it?

      • Adam says:
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        Please lord, let this happen.

        It hasn’t been clever or funny for months… especially when three posts are intentionally made in a row so he can say that stupid phrase.

        • J-FOH says:
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          @Adam: the people have spoken….G3 shall no longer be. You are past the gimmicks kitty. You have earned the respect with your RCL play and your contributions….about the Indians, kidding. Time to be the Cat we always knew this kitty could be

        • gareth says:
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          @Adam: it was never intended to be clever or funny. Its just a basic sign off after I’ve made a few comments.

          Who knew fantasy baseballers could be so touchy?

          • Good Will Hunting 2: Hunting Season says:
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            @gareth: don’t listen somebody else’s accounts of what to do.

      • Good Will Hunting 2: Hunting Season says:
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        @MattTruss223: just do like Grey said a few weeks back, start calling it “G needs an abacus or calculator”, since his count isn’t usually spot on.

  5. Ante GALIC says:
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    Grey!

    Gr8 stuff. Really interesting. Dickerson is definitely someone I will target in the middle to late rounds if I can steal him.

    1. Won two out of three leagues with Gomez in the 10th round.

    2. Puig’s SLG was still good.

    3. Wife is pushing me out the door. More l8r!

    Cheers,
    Ante

    • Grey

      Grey says:
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      @Ante GALIC: Haha… Doesn’t your wife know your first obligation is to Razzball?

    • SwaggerJackers says:
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      @Ante GALIC: Hate to burst your sleeper bubble, but Dickerson will not be available in the mid to late rounds of any reasonably competitive leagues next season.

      ESPN released 2015 rankings right at the end of the season and Dickerson is in their top 50 overall.

      ESPN certainly can’t be trusted in general, but at this early stage of the fantasy baseball off season, a list like that, combined with the numbers he put up (plus comments like the one Grey left) are a pretty clear signs that C-Dick will not around as a late target.

      • Aubrey Plaza's Pillow says:
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        @SwaggerJackers: not to mention that a whole lot of people actually follow espn rankings, or at least, that’s what i hear.

  6. Dominican Power says:
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    That Braun for Holiday traded worked in my favor. lol

  7. Tigres says:
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    I was impressed by how strong top 20 OF looks compared to the other positions. Then I remembered we need 5 of them…

    Thanks for the recaps!

    • Grey

      Grey says:
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      @Tigres: Yeah, totally agree

  8. de nachos says:
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    aw, Al “Delvecchio” Molinaro from Happy Days is alive at age 95. This made me smile. Thanks for the warm fuzzy Friday, Grey.

    • Grey

      Grey says:
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      @de nachos: Unbelievable that he’s still alive, right? No problem…

  9. henry rowengartner says:
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    Hey Grey, I just want to start off and say thank you for your help and leading my team to the championship. Now that the season has come to an end I’m looking at my potential keepers for next year. I briefly asked you this question but didn’t layout all the details. We can only keep players for 3 total years and surrender the draft pick 2 round earlier then the pervious year (for every year a player is kept). It’s a 12 team H2H, 4xOF, 2xUTIL, and 5×5 Stats with OBP instead of AVG. With so many injuries this year it caused the worst teams to dump their players and the best teams to dump their top draft picks. So I ended up doing the same to keep up with everyone and now I don’t have a pick until the 8th round and have a lot of the low middle round picks. My keepers I am deciding between are Michael Cuddyer (9th & 2 seasons left), Johnny Cueto (10th & 2 seasons), Brian Dozier (12th & 2 seasons), Manny Machado (13th & 1 season), Oscar Taveras (17th & 1 season), Yasiel Puig (21st & 2 seasons), Mookie Betts (23rd & 2 seasons), and Willy Peralta (23rd & 2 seasons). I’m thinking about keeping Cueto, Dozier, Machado, Puig, and then my last is a toss up between Betts and Taveras. After hearing about your love for Wong it only helped me believe my love for him is real. So i’m thinking about trading Dozier at the draft for an early round pick(s) and hopefully drafting Wong in the middle rounds. I’m also thinking about doing the same with Machado and possibly Cueto. I really don’t want to give up on next year so I’m curious of who you would keep and what type of moves you would make to help better my terrible draft pick situation.

    • Grey

      Grey says:
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      @henry rowengartner: I wouldn’t trade Dozier for the possibility of drafting Wong…. Trading players for draft picks isn’t great…

      • JeF With 1 F says:
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        @Grey: But trading Draft Picks for players…that I like.

        • Grey

          Grey says:
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          Yeah, agreed, better in its reverse from what is being proposed

  10. JeF With 1 F says:
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    Great stuff..looking forward to your Buy/Sell this afternoon

    • Carnac says:
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      HA

      • JeF With 1 F says:
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        @Carnac: @Grey: @PK: Whats so funny?…nobody else is playing daily fantasy for the playoffs??? You mean im the only one???

        • Grey

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          Go heavy on the Royals, that’s not a Butler crack

          • JeF With 1 F says:
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            @Grey: Ha ha…i was actually going to throw tillman against the royals…tillmans pretty cheap and sometimes taking the route less traveled in DK is the way to separate yourself from the pack…and sometimes its the way to get destroyed ha ha

            • Grey

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              Seems like it would be harder in the postseason because you only have two pitchers to choose from (unless I’m understanding it incorrectly and you can choose from relievers too)….

              • JeF With 1 F says:
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                @Grey: No your right just starters…and i dont like taking opposing pitchers

                • Grey

                  Grey says:
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                  Gotcha… Yeah, seems like it would be very difficult… Saw the Real Sports on HBO about fantasy daily sports, was pretty interesting, I’d check it out if you have HBO Go…

                  • J-FOH says:
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                    @Grey: In season taking opposing pitchers is not a bad play. You are always looking at team K rate so if the Braves play the Cubs or the Marlins or the Astros then you jump all over that game because K’s rule in DFS and your probability shoots up for the win. This of course is dependent on what type of game you are playing. But this is Sky’s department

                    • Grey

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                      I suggest you watch the DFS special on Real Sports too, even if Gumbel is a douchebag…

                  • J-FOH says:
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                    @Grey: I always thought Gumbel translated to douchebag

                    • Grey

                      Grey says:
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                      He is so dickish it’s almost funny… Almost… He can’t help but be snide…

                  • jef with 1 f says:
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                    @Grey: Yea I actually saw that…and I agree Gumble is a douche

  11. kevinmac says:
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    I usually have a good idea on who to target after a season concludes…but the first couple rounds are gonna be like throwing poo at a wall and hoping a whole peanut sticks.

  12. ashtray says:
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    My top 3 OF were Braun, Choo and Heyward and none of them made this list. I’m guessing that’s part of why I didn’t win.

    • Grey

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      @ashtray: Braun and Heyward didn’t lose your league… Choo and others might’ve…

      • ashtray says:
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        @Grey: Effing Votto

  13. darkness says:
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    Kemp finished at .289 AVG

    • Carnac says:
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      *.287

      • JeF With 1 F says:
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        @Carnac: At .289 i was going to be pretty high on him next season…at .287 not so much.

  14. booya says:
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    Please rank your top 3 of these options for next year:

    Andrew Heaney
    Carlos Martinez
    Henderson Alvarez
    Homer Bailey
    Anibal Sanchez

    Thanks

    • Grey

      Grey says:
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      Heaney, then depends on health of Homer and Anibal, and if Martinez is in the rotation

  15. WittleWeebles says:
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    I had McCutchen/Jones/J. Upton in my two leagues. They were a big reason why I won both. While people were busy picking pitchers in the early rounds I grabbed solid outfielders. Thanks for the tips all year Grey.

    I do have one question though. What to make of Jay Bruce?

    • Grey

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      Nice! I’ll have to look at Bruce this offseason… My guess is it was an injury and bad luck… He’s too young to be that bad…

  16. J-FOH says:
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    • Grey

      Grey says:
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      Nice!

  17. J-FOH says:
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    Where is the hip hop at? oh here it is, with a poorly shot video

    • Grey

      Grey says:
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      Sweet, never heard of them…

      • J-FOH says:
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        @Grey: MURS is a guy, kinda a weirdo, he’s been around LA for a long time. He’s a 4th OF if you know what I’m sayin

        • Grey

          Grey says:
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          He’s Andre Ethier? That makes me a lot less excited about him

          • J-FOH says:
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            @Grey: I’m keeping it real on the sleeper potential, I don’t want to Brad Miller him…too soon?

            • Grey

              Grey says:
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              Too late, already forgotten about that schmohawk

              • J-FOH says:
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                @Grey: OK, I’ll buy that…not really.

  18. Johnny Boy says:
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    55 more counting stats and a higher batting average than your predictions for Brantley. That seems like a big difference. While you loved Brantley more than other rankers, your love for him still wasn’t high enough to get people to truly target him in drafts

    • Grey

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      Gotcha

    • JeF With 1 F says:
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      @Johnny Boy: Nobody could have predicted the type of numbers that he put up this year…Basically Grey was opening our eyes to him saying he could have a good year and worth taking in the draft with upside. It made me grab him late….and ill be keeping him.

    • Aubrey Plaza's Pillow says:
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      @Johnny Boy: depends on how many spots above other sites rankings he put him, and i’m pretty sure it was a lot. i got him nowhere since in deep or regular sized leagues i already had my OF by that point, and in shallower leagues early in season it’s hard to move off guys who ranked much higher, even though he was outperforming them. Same reason i never once picked up Blackman, either too stocked with OF, and/or didn’t believe he was that good. That was later in season true of Blackman, not of Brantley.

  19. Alan says:
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    What do you think about Polanco, Tavares, and Dickerson for next year?

    • Grey

      Grey says:
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      I like all of them

      • Alan says:
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        What kind of numbers would you expect from Tavares and Polanco?

        • Grey

          Grey says:
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          Too early to say

  20. Big Magoo

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    Nice call on Brantley. It’s obviously a huge bonus to get McCutchen-like numbers from player outside of the top 200 picks. I feel like he might be a bit overrated going into next season though. Could easily see him putting up a .285/15/20 type of line based on his profile and skill set. It’ll probably take a top 30 pick to get him too.

    It seemed like I was driving the Kemp bandwagon for a while there. It was pretty empty for most of the season too. All of the signs were there for a prime buy-low opportunity a month into the season though. Here’s his post-ASB line: 39/17/54/3/.309 in 64 games (263 plate appearances. He led the league with a .606 slugging percentage in the 2nd half too. Looks like a solid 3rd rounder next year, assuming good health. Could even make an argument for him in the 2nd.

    Might as well just make Giancarlo at #2 overall in your ’15 rankings official right now. You know you want to. I think I’d feel more comfortable with a high floor player like Cutch at that spot though.

    Maybe there’s an idea for an offseason series of articles – take two or three players with similar ADPs and different writers make cases for why one player should be drafted before the other(s). Would make for some fun debates.

    • Grey

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      Yeah, I like that idea for offseason articles… You and JFOH should run with it… I told JFOH to let you know that you’re welcome to write for us, no idea if he relayed the message… Cutch doesn’t feel like a #2 guy anymore… He’s trending in the wrong direction… Think the steals are evaporating due to age and what he means for the Pirates in the middle of the order… I think Marte giving 15 HRs and 30 SBs could outperform him, and surprise the world… Kemp feels Pence’ish… Solid if healthy, years of huge numbers way past him…

      • J-FOH says:
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        @Grey: I have been e-mailing him and told him to e-mail you…sheesh, have some faith in my recruiting skills.

        • Grey

          Grey says:
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          Ha, just wasn’t sure at what point you guys were at…

          • Big Magoo

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            @J-FOH: @Grey: Yeah, I’ve been exchanging emails with JFOH… I’ll send you an email too. I’d love to be able to contribute somehow.

            Cutch is kind of in the same boat as Trout, I think. Seems like the Pirates don’t want him risking injury by running too much, just like you mentioned in the Trout blurb. I feel like Cutch is still a .300/25/20 player, but if he’s more of a 20/12 guy going forward, it’s obviously a huge difference.

            I like Marte too. Liked him coming into this season as well. Reminds me of Gomez just before the power spike. It wouldn’t shock me if he went 20/30 next season.

            Kemp is somewhat Pence-ish, but he has higher ceiling. The 30+ steal days are gone, but I think he can manage 10-15. Throw in 25-30 homers and a .275ish average and he looks like an easy 3rd rounder to me. It’s all about health with him.

            • Grey

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              Sounds good on the emails! Maybe you can draw Oaktown out of retirement… Yup totally on Marte… I just hope I don’t jump the gun a tad with how aggressive I am on him this year…. I hear ya on Cutch, I worry about the 20/12 floor… Same on Kemp, agreed…Pence doesn’t have his power, so my comparison was a tad wonky…

              • Joe says:
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                @Grey: For what it is worth, Cutch did have 17 steals heading into August (5 in July) then missed a little over two weeks with the broken rib after getting beaned. From that point on, he attempted 3 steals and only actually had one steal (although one steal was also not counted because of some stat/rule anomaly that the pirates broadcasters didn’t agree with).

                Perhaps the Pirates did exactly what you say and will fear an injury trying to swipe bags. On the other hand, it seems more like he just broke some ribs and sliding probably hurt. At 28, I don’t think its unreasonable to start expecting a decline in speed, but I still think the decrease in speed had more to do with the injury and managing the injury than it did with anything else.

                After Trout, there are plenty of arguments about who should go 2-5, but Cutch seems as safe as anyone. Looking at this season as a whole, nothing in his pace numbers suggest a decline and the stolen base argument seems better explained by an injury than anything else considering he was on pace for about 25-30 steals before the injury.

                • Grey

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                  Fair points, injury definitely could’ve played into it… Also, as you said, a decline in speed due to age may be on the horizon anyway…. I don’t think he’ll be out of the top 5 or far out of it, him as number 2 feels slightly bleh, but it’s not crazy…

                • Big Magoo

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                  @Joe: The injury played a big part in his lack of running over the last two months of the season, no question. I think he’s still a safe bet for 20 steals assuming good health, but the combination of being another year older and the Pirates possibly wanting to limit his risk of getting injured might prevent him from exceeding that number going forward.

                  • Grey

                    Grey says:
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                    Who’s to say he won’t be more injury prone as he gets older too…

              • Big Magoo

                Big Magoo says:
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                @Grey: I’ll reach out to Oaktown and see what he wants to do… Going aggressive on Marte, huh? Somewhere around 30-35 overall maybe? The only question with him is the counting stats since he seems to get jerked around the lineup from time to time. He’d be a solid option anywhere outside of the top 40, I think… The Kemp/Pence comparison was fine. I just think that Kemp has a higher ceiling while Pence is more of a high floor type of player, though that floor is getting a bit lower with each passing year…

                • Grey

                  Grey says:
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                  Yeah, agreed on Kemp and Pence… A guy that doesn’t kill you in average that can hit 15 homers and steal 40 bases excites me… Lineup, getting jerked around by club are my biggest concerns too… Those are things that should figure themselves out (I’d hope at least)…

            • jef with 1 f says:
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              @Big Magoo: So now you will have the writers rights to embed that we all covet.

    • J-FOH says:
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      @Big Magoo: damn, you are sexy when you talk projections

      • Big Magoo

        Big Magoo says:
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        @J-FOH: *blushes*

        • J-FOH says:
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          @Big Magoo: I like the Gomez comparison only if Marte starts juicing it up, like i assume Gomez did. he got way too big with the power spike correlation. I think Polanco will be the steal in Pittsburgh for next year. He just has that soured thing right now and i hope it carries over for him.

          I told grey I was working on you and Oaktown and he goes and spills the groceries all over the floor. I was planning this whole surprise party and now he’s gonna get a hostess and a scented candle

          • Big Magoo

            Big Magoo says:
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            @J-FOH: PEDs are a whole different ball game. I don’t even consider them to be a factor unless a player is a known user and his numbers were drastically inflated from his career averages during the time period that he was known/strongly suspected of using. I don’t know one way or the other about Gomez, just that his plate discipline, batted ball profile, and overall skill set was very similar to Marte’s at a similar age.

            And surprise parties are overrated. Nothing wrong with a hostess either, especially if you’ve got a good buzz going…

            • J-FOH says:
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              @Big Magoo: but it was my special gift.

    • goodfold2 says:
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      @Big Magoo: that series of articles is good idea and would make for good debates, and make for better prepared readers, good stuff. cutch’s lesser steals isn’t on same plane as upton, who simply doesn’t even try to steal barely at all anymore (plus this has been going on for a few years with upton)

  21. Gonzo_The_Great says:
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    A Friday without a “Buy” column is like a Friday without sunshine. No wonder it’s raining here.

    • Grey

      Grey says:
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      As Kemp would say, get under my umbrella (Ella ella eh eh eh)…

  22. justin says:
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    Would you rather have Matt Carpenter or Ryu?

    I know they are complete oposite positions, but in a vacuum?

    I would be trading away Ryu and i currently have a ton of keeper worthy SP and no 3b since Miggy is no longer eligible there.

    Thank you

    • Grey

      Grey says:
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      Carpenter

  23. gareth says:
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    I want to write a Column for Razzball.

    • Sky

      Sky says:
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      You can write the Cleveland Indians Preview

    • Grey

      Grey says:
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      Would it be three short columns then one column saying G3?

      • jef with 1 f says:
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        @Grey: Ha ha

  24. PK says:
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    Any other Razzballers going to any CS games? I’m taking one of the four girl readers to the first NLCS game tomorrow.

    • Grey

      Grey says:
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      Nice! I wish I were… I’m nowhere near the cities to venture to an LCS game…

    • rapscallion13 says:
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      @PK: I attended that wonderful NL wildcard game. If the LCS is ever in Pittsburgh, I hope to be there.

      • PK says:
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        @rapscallion13: Ah, that must have been a bummer for you. Easily the worst game of the postseason so far. Although you did get to see MLB history, as Crawford was the first shortstop to ever hit a grand slam in the postseason!

        • jef with 1 f says:
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          @PK: I’ll be attending an NLCS game next season at CITI Field

          • goodfold2 says:
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            @jef with 1 f: Metco, good luck there.

  25. JashFath

    JashFath says:
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    Giancarlo Christ! You aren’t kidding, what happened to this fantasy position. Just save your time and don’t worry about making Top-40 Outfielders posts.

    • Grey

      Grey says:
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      Ha, it’s already been written… Where were you earlier today?

  26. J-FOH says:
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    Hip Hop track numero dos…a blast from the Razzball past

    • de nachos says:
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      @J-FOH: our junior year high school basketball layup line theme music was It Takes Two.

      • J-FOH says:
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        @de nachos: you played high school basketball?

        • de nachos says:
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          @J-FOH: Like a white AI. Cept with all of the turnovers and none of the points.

          • J-FOH says:
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            @de nachos: HA, I went to a high school where we had a power house. I saw at least a half dozen plus future NBA players while they were in high school playing against our team. I only point this out to say there was no way in hell I could of played high school ball. But I was money from downtown and on the boards at the park!

    • Grey

      Grey says:
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      Love the middle section where they’re talking about work…

      • J-FOH says:
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        @Grey: the Dickey is always good for a little relief

        • Grey

          Grey says:
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          Haha

      • J-FOH says:
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        @Grey: wait!…what?

  27. J-FOH says:
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    Here is a cut for you and Nacho, Nacho actually hit me up over his love of DJ Zeph and Azeem. This is Azeem with DJ Spin

      • J-FOH says:
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        @de nachos: classic nacho

    • Grey

      Grey says:
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      Nice, coming out with some randoms today

      • J-FOH says:
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        @Grey: Nick’s been on a little break and someone needs to hold down the fort. Ralph has been all about football but you know where my heart is…don’t tell Jay

        • Grey

          Grey says:
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          Yeah, you’re not much of a football man, huh? I thought you were more into it…

          • J-FOH says:
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            @Grey: I like it but FBB is something I would fight over, football I would just make fun of you and walk away. I like to watch college football a lot

            • Grey

              Grey says:
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              Who’s your team?

              • J-FOH says:
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                @Grey: UCLA

                • Grey

                  Grey says:
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                  Go Bruins! They’re Bruins right?

                  • J-FOH says:
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                    @Grey: yes. You crack me up

    • nick the dick says:
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      @J-FOH: im really feeling this stuff also

        • nick the dick says:
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          @J-FOH: the Murs one? Ya i peeped it, its good. Had heard OF him but never heard him. Is he decent overall?

          • J-FOH says:
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            @nick the dick: wishy washy, the felt stuff with slug was solid but he way out there. Have you ever heard of scarub from the living legends crew?

            • nick the dick says:
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              @J-FOH: yeah thats kinda what i figured with murs. I mean the guys name is murs, how good could he be? What does it mean anyways? But scarub sounds familiar but not really sure

        • nick the dick says:
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          @J-FOH: ill tell ya what else im really diggin is this Lee Fields. I got Emma Jean last week after getting Faithful Man, and while i did like FM better, EJ was still very good. Had a couple ones i really liked. Man its good to hear a guy make some real soul music nowadays. Shit hits you right in the heart sometimes.

          • J-FOH says:
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            @nick the dick: I asked about scarub because he performed at a local dive bar by my house last night for open mic hip hop thursdays

            • nick the dick says:
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              @J-FOH: and you went? Any good? Live shows are what seperate the mcs from the boys

                • nick the dick says:
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                  @J-FOH: shitty pretty dope, nice beats

                  • J-FOH says:
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                    @nick the dick: scroll down, i’m getting it funky in here

            • de nachos says:
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              @J-FOH: is that at Dasha’s Bar? Hope you were packing

              • J-FOH says:
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                @de nachos: I drank for years in dives in the ghetto side of Long Beach with never a weapon on me.

                • nick the dick says:
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                  @J-FOH: the beard and glasses are more than sufficient protection

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                    @nick the dick: I’m just really comfortable around minorities…hangin with a group of white guys makes me nervous

                  • J-FOH says:
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                    @nick the dick: is minorities racist?

                    • nick the dick says:
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                      @J-FOH: i think we’re the minorities now. And yes, a group of white guys…those are the real sickos. Grey said mulatto last week, im almost positive thats worse than saying minorities.

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                    @nick the dick: it was all black guys, latinos, samoans and longshoreman. Good time crowd

  28. Baseball Cougar says:
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    I have to lock in a keeper for the next 3 years. Cost is the same for all 3. My choices are:
    Marte, Myers, and Harvey.
    Ignoring need, who is the best keeper over the next 3 years?
    Thanks!

    • Grey

      Grey says:
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      Myers

  29. Mike

    Mike says:
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    Escobar with a dinger and Billy “2 lbs of shizz in a 1-lb bag” Butler gets an infield single…the universe is collapsing in on itself

    • J-FOH says:
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      @Mike: what are you talking about. Baseball ended like two weeks a go

    • Grey

      Grey says:
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      Ha!

  30. J-FOH says:
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    Here Nick a new thread, but this is a group called breakestra, they would always perform with the hip hop groups. Got their name and start by playing the breaks. In the same vein as Lee Fields

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4iwUfVL1r6o

    • nick the dick says:
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      @J-FOH: cool ill lend my ear…

            • de nachos says:
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              @J-FOH: probably my favorite episode but you are genius, I always remembered the song as Little Peggy March I Will Follow Him. Al Bundy says thanks.

              • J-FOH says:
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                @de nachos: yea I’m a weirdo. The years with Steve were some of my favorites.

              • J-FOH says:
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                @de nachos: ooh. For a bonus point. Name the spin off which featured what future star?

                • de nachos says:
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                  @J-FOH: jeez no clue. modern family? (kidding)

                  vaguely remembering Bud with short lived spin off?

                • de nachos says:
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                  @J-FOH: crikey, that show was terrible. nice question. point for you.

                • Big Magoo

                  Big Magoo says:
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                  @J-FOH: Had to look that one up. Yikes. What the hell are network exes thinking sometimes? No bonus point for me.

                  • J-FOH says:
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                    @Big Magoo: the saddest thing is I knew that off the top of my head. Second bonus question and this is an easy one, what was the spin off of Growing Pains?

                    • de nachos says:
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                      @J-FOH: wow no clue but it makes me miss the guy with the Boner Does Cocaine In The Bathroom handle.

              • J-FOH says:
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                @Big Magoo: good call

              • de nachos says:
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                @Big Magoo: HA what a call, I’m def putting this back into my regular rotation

  31. de nachos says:
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    Slow reader here, finally got to the last line of the post. “Prolly the latter, as in hitting walked up a latter with a rope.” Hitting was shootin’ pool with a rope, amirite?

    • Grey

      Grey says:
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      Ha, yup

      • de nachos says:
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        @Grey: WHISKEY DICK! New catch phrase it’s playing well in Peoria.

        • Grey

          Grey says:
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          I like it!

  32. The Theory says:
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    This list, honestly, shocks me.

    I thought for sure there would be a bunch of players who did better than Werth and Holliday. And yet here we are. Hell, we’ve got someone batting .227 on the year in the top-20. Yeah, Chris Carter came with a bunch of home runs, but Adam Dunn barely cracked the top40 in 2012 (per RotoGraphs), even with 41 home runs (albeit with a slightly worse BA, though the difference between a .204 and .227 feels kind of moot–a terrible BA is a terrible BA).

    I have a feeling next year’s draft is going to be wonky. And probably not in the good, warm-fuzzy way.

    • Grey

      Grey says:
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      Yeah, totally agree… Offense is in the toilet across the board everywhere… Carter seemed barely ownable during the season and here he is…

  33. Hondo says:
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    I checked RW for the first time since FBB season ended and I got a warning about 2 weeks ago for using the word “boobs”
    IF Razzball was that strict you’d have to suspend yourself.LOL

    • Grey

      Grey says:
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      Were you using it for Billy Butler? Cause those would be moobs.

      • Hondo says:
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        @Grey:

        Comments about Billy Butlers physique have been known to cause nightmares not only for small children,but also for Jihad terrorists,Tony Montana and Adolph Hitler.
        As RW’s mods said-“Doing so may lead to you being immediately and permanently banned. You agree that the webmaster, administrator and moderators of this forum have the right to remove, edit, move or close any topic at any time should they see fit.” LOL

        Fuck ’em.Oops.

        • Grey

          Grey says:
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          What if you say Mauer’s a first rounder? That get you banned or promoted?

          • Hondo says:
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            @Grey: Mauer sounds like Meower.I suspect that is close enough to the word “pussy” to have NBC goons take out a hit on me.
            Probably by a Maori with a cricket bat.

            • Grey

              Grey says:
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              Ha!

  34. jef with 1 f says:
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    Tillman took a shizz on my DK last night but my line up kept me alive…had all Royals and Orioles…I have Waino and yadi going today to get me in the money..I’m 5pts out but I’m assuming most people have Waino so really I need Yadi to do something

    • Grey

      Grey says:
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      Ah, so it’s not a one day thing like DK usually is? You make a lineup for the whole series or both first games?

      • jef with 1 f says:
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        @Grey: I did both first games but there are other options

        • Grey

          Grey says:
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          Gotcha

          • jef with 1 f says:
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            @Grey: there’s some free ones everyday..you should give it a shot it’s fun…I think you’ll like it…there’s an app for the phone which is good to keep track but I recommend setting up a team on the CPU…..DO IT

            • Grey

              Grey says:
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              The problem is I’m worried I’d like it too much and start auctioning off Cougs’ jewelry to pay for my DK teams…

              • jef with 1 f says:
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                @Grey: Ha I’m the same way…I just put in like $10 -$20 a week and cap it at that..you’d like it a lot

                • Grey

                  Grey says:
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                  Yeah, I might give it a shot next year… After seeing some schmohawks make like $200,000 a year on on the Real Sports special… Oh, man, I’m already addicted and I’ve never played…

                  • jef with 1 f says:
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                    @Grey: Ha ha

              • jef with 1 f says:
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                @Grey: you can play $1-$2–$5 games and so on

  35. nick the dick says:
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    Sent you a couple emails G

    • jef with 1 f says:
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      @nick the dick: He only opens them if the subject says Giancarlo

      • Grey

        Grey says:
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        Subject: Re: Naked Pics of Giancarlo

        • jef with 1 f says:
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          @Grey: oh you stepped it up

          • Grey

            Grey says:
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            I just looked at old emails I had sent…

    • Grey

      Grey says:
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      Got em! Thanks, Nick!

    • Grey

      Grey says:
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      Is this you?

      • nick the dick says:
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        @Grey: yeah

        • Grey

          Grey says:
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          Awesome! Listening to my third one… I really like the ‘he ain’t in no hurry…’ one…

          • nick the dick says:
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            @Grey: cool! Yeah thats one of my favs. Thats my boy playing the guitar on that one too

            • Grey

              Grey says:
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              This is so damn old school!

              • nick the dick says:
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                @Grey: gotta get it while the gettins good!

                • Grey

                  Grey says:
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                  This is failure’s art… Love the piano with it…

                  • nick the dick says:
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                    @Grey: yeah man, my buddy knows his way around a beat. It’s funny too cuz hes not a hip hop head kinda guy, hes just a guitar player who started messing with some beats years and years ago and i told him those are good, we should do some tracks

                    • Grey

                      Grey says:
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                      I’d love to hear you rhyme over an RA beat or something… Have you tried that? Like rhyming over Underground Hits or something?

                • Grey

                  Grey says:
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                  Can I be overcritical? I love them, so don’t take this the wrong way… You need some hooks… Your flows are amazing, but where the hooks should be, there’s just a little small sample then it goes right into more flow… I don’t know if that’s a producer thing or not (cause I’m ignorant)…But that’s just my two cents… Still really love the actual flows by you…

                  • nick the dick says:
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                    @Grey: oh yeah i love to hear actual opinions. I hear that alot about the hooks actually. I know i could make a catchier kinda hook but its not really my focus on some of em. Sometimes i feel like too much hook takes away from the lyrics and things and people judge songs by only the hook. Sometimes i do one like so damn old school where its a pretty good lengthy hook but most of the time focus on verses more. Also, my verses are never 16 bars, theyre always long as shit cuz i find the classic 16 bars, hook, 16 bars, hook, breakdown, hook pattern kinda monotonous and restricting. In a perfect world, i would want hooks like the mid 90s where a DJ just scratches samples and stuff for it cuz i love those kind of hooks but dont have the luxury of a good DJ to do it.

                    • Grey

                      Grey says:
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                      Yeah, I could see that… You could use a good DJ… Like Premier on Manifest, Just To Get A Rep… That’s what you need to tie the verses together… End on a strong line that throws it to the hook…

                  • nick the dick says:
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                    @Grey: another factor about the hooks is that i dont record often anymore, prob been well over a year right now, cuz my boy moved away so when we do something hes like im coming down tomorrow lets do a couple songs. Ill have plenty of verses and lines ready but need to scrounge to put everything together to a beat quickly after a long layoff

                    • Grey

                      Grey says:
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                      Ah, gotcha… You need a DJ/hook man…

                  • nick the dick says:
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                    @Grey: about rapping over other beats, we def used to use other beats back in the day but i try for the most part so stick to our original beats. Im sure if i was recording stuff like everyday we would do that, but when its once in a blue moon, i try to use the beats he makes me. One of the songs i sent you is actually an underground beat off that Wu Tang Indie album

                    • Grey

                      Grey says:
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                      Ah, cool… Yeah, used to love some of the mixed tapes where it’s a different rapper busting a beat over someone else’s beat…

                  • nick the dick says:
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                    @Grey: yup, youre absolutely right. These tracks range from 2 years to prob 7 or 8 years old so its from a while ago. And this is some low budget shit too, a good amount of time is spent just making them sounds halfway decent quality. Trust me G, if i had the time and resources to do stuff consistently and with the right people and equipment then it would be way closer to how i want it to be. It sucks that its just a once in a while bang out a couple quick songs thing for me

                    • Grey

                      Grey says:
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                      Yeah, you have the skills, you should chase that dream a little harder… Wouldn’t say if I didn’t believe it…

                  • nick the dick says:
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                    @Grey: you are wise beyond your years my friend.

                    • Grey

                      Grey says:
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                      Ha, if only I could stay away from high upside middle infielders…

                  • nick the dick says:
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                    @Grey: a different buddy of mine who i recorded a few of those tracks with just on a laptop actually said he wants to do some stuff this week and im thinking about putting down the razzball track for ya

                    • Grey

                      Grey says:
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                      That would be amazing!

                  • nick the dick says:
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                    @Grey: haha but 15/15 from a waiver wire second baseman is sooo enticing!

                    • Grey

                      Grey says:
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                      I know! Dah!

                  • nick the dick says:
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                    @Grey: sent you one more email with a few older tracks. The first one is the Camp Lo ‘Luchini’ beat

                    • Grey

                      Grey says:
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                      Sweet, will check them out when I get back home later…

                    • Grey

                      Grey says:
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                      Really like First Things First… That’s why I was voted grumpiest — HA! Good shizz yo…

                  • nick the dick says:
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                    @Grey: Ha thats actually what they voted me as in the yearbook, most grumpy. C’mon i’m a nice guy!…i thought you would like first things first. Thanks for checking em out G.

                    • Grey

                      Grey says:
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                      No problem at all, thanks for sharing!

          • nick the dick says:
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            @Grey: the 4 in the other email i sent are some of the most solid ones

            • Grey

              Grey says:
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              Oh, really? Haven’t even got that far yet…

      • nick the dick says:
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        @Grey: learned myself some intraweb so i could turn em to mp3s and send em. I feel so smart!

        • Grey

          Grey says:
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          You need to get the A&R guy to do that

  36. asdfasdf says:
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    Hey, in an OBP dynasty league how would you rank these guys (please keep in mind that I already have a 1B, so if I draft Votto he would have to be my UTIL): Braun, Kemp, Votto, Ellsbury. They are all roughly the same age. Thanks!

    • Grey

      Grey says:
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      Kemp, Braun, Ellsbury

      • asdfasdf says:
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        @Grey: Thanks, that was quick. You think Kemp will stay healthy? Also where would Votto have ranked if I didn’t have a 1B already (his OBP would help a lot)?

        • Grey

          Grey says:
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          I don’t know if anyone will stay healthy… No one does… Hopefully he does… I’d rank Votto last…

          • asdfasdf says:
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            @Grey: Okay, thanks!

  37. jef with 1 f says:
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    Did another DK today it’s both of today’s games..Waino, Ventura and loaded up on totals against Norris…off to a good start

    • Grey

      Grey says:
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      Nice!

  38. jef with 1 f says:
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    I see what your doing moustakas …trying to get people excited about you for next year…well I’m not buying it

      • Grey

        Grey says:
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        Ha!

      • jef with 1 f says:
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        @de nachos: Ha ha

    • Grey

      Grey says:
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      Don’t do it, he pulled the same shizz in spring training…

      • jef with 1 f says:
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        @Grey: Oh I’m not…but I am going to be in on Cain

        • Grey

          Grey says:
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          Yeah, crazy he’s the number three hitter right now for the Royals…

          • de nachos says:
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            @Grey: I do wish Cain were Marte’s age. is it Insane to be ageist against a 29 year old?

            • jef with 1 f says:
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              @de nachos: Yea that’s my worry with him…how much betterbdoes he actually get..or is this it..hard to tell but he won’t really cost much anyway

            • Grey

              Grey says:
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              Nope, not insane… He missed his window a little bit…

              • J-FOH says:
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                @Grey: I think Steamers is pretty decent on projections for Cain, but I wouldn’t count on any more than 500 AB’s.

                • Grey

                  Grey says:
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                  Don’t know what his projections are, but he’s around a fifth outfielder…

                  • J-FOH says:
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                    @Grey: 59/8/53/209/.269

                    situationally I don’t think KC is the best place for him to be. That high BABIP and no major change to his batted ball stats make me meh. Might be a guy over drafted that just opens the door to grab someone with a better floor. That K rate/ BB rate will never make him a realistic lead off man. Hoping he learns how to take a walk and thinking the guy we saw in those 244 AB’s in 2o12 is where he is going is a fool’s errand. He can go do those things on someone else’s team. Maybe he gets “lucky” but a .380 BABIP two years in a row is like trying to get laid twice using the same line with the same woman after she caught you stealing her cash as you left her place.

                    • Grey

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                      209 steals feels a bit aggressive… Maybe 199 or 197… The reality is, even if he’s drafted, if he doesn’t do something in the 1st two weeks, he’s being dropped in RCL leagues…

                  • J-FOH says:
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                    @Grey: my point exactly, it was suppose to be 20….those are the on the moon stats with Bochy heading the rules committee. new rule, catchers are not allowed to move once the pitch is thrown and will now be DH’s. Hey Bruce, how do we catch from the dugout? you don’t, the ump’s are the new catchers and all players that get to third will be rewarded home base because as we all know third base is basically crossing home plate…in baseball and with the ladies.

                    • Grey

                      Grey says:
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                      Haha… Everyone knows the bases are only 89 feet to each other on the moon, so that one less foot has steals skyrocketing (literally)

                  • J-FOH says:
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                    @Grey: I’m feeling some heavy off season rants coming on

                    • Grey

                      Grey says:
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                      Get it!

                  • J-FOH says:
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                    @Grey: I’ll do my best not to hurt the children but I can’t make any promises

  39. Terrence Mann says:
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    My roommate pointed out the fact that Hunter Pence is a doppelganger for Colorado movie theater murderer James Holmes. It’s uncanny.

    • Grey

      Grey says:
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      Oh my God, he totally is!

    • goodfold2 says:
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      @Terrence Mann: that ain’t no accident, that’s how pence inspires people. that and making weird signs.

  40. J-FOH says:
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    Fred Lewis followed me on Twitter, that puts me into perspective for where I stand in this world of baseball.

    Friend to me, ” why are you sad, he’s that the guy from Best in Show”
    Me “I wish, he’s an insignificant baseball player”

    • Grey

      Grey says:
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      Fred Lewis! Blast from the past right there… He must be following anyone that says anything negatively about Bochy… Fred Lewis, you got a raw deal!

      • J-FOH says:
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        @Grey: you assume I blast Bochy on Twitter?…Yeah, I do. But in my defense he is a big fat headed pussy. It says a lot abut society when a big whiny little girl like him is one of the better managers of the game that can motivate a group of mostly marginal players in the fall every year. So what I’m saying is to relate to society’s youth you need to be a big whiny pussy and then they got your attention. Fucking emo music and everyone gets a trophy kids.

        • Grey

          Grey says:
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          “You need to be more emo” Sounds like something Ehrlich would say… Seriously, how funny would it be if Fred simply followed you because you dissed Bochy. You should ask him…

          • J-FOH says:
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            @Grey: I don’t want to risk the unfollow. I now have fred, a porn star and great blaxploitation star fred williamson following me.

            Nice Ehrlich call. Just as we have the ghost of Mac Dre at our disposal we need to use our inner Ehrlich to makes calls

  41. Frank says:
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    R Zimmerman or jay Bruce in a dynasty league? I get Bruce bit can’t pull trigger?!

    • J-FOH says:
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      @Frank: Bruce! pull it

    • Grey

      Grey says:
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      Bruce

      • Frank says:
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        @Grey: cheers guys, to clarify it’s 8×8 with k’s against, obp and slg.

        • Grey

          Grey says:
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          Yup, go for it

  42. SteveNZ says:
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    Honey, I’m home!

    • J-FOH says:
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      @SteveNZ: STEVE!

      and no my caps isn’t stuck on

      • SteveNZ says:
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        @J-FOH: Did we really go to that game? Was it really only three weeks ago?

        • J-FOH says:
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          @SteveNZ: yes we did, the only game I went to all year and maybe my last for a long time, but what a great note to go out on. I have searched my soul and just don’t care about real baseball that much anymore, but spending time with good people at a ball game is worth it.

    • Grey

      Grey says:
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      SteveNZ! Good to see you! So, how was London and Paris?

      • SteveNZ says:
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        @Grey: Hey now!

        We had a great time, we really did. Think we managed to get round all the main attractions and ate a couple of great dinners, but it was certainly a pretty full-on two weeks – though regretfully we didn’t make to to the great ice-cream on the Ile St Louis.

        Feeling pretty dazed today – got home yesterday morning afar flying all the way home from London with a 3-hour stop in Seoul.

        Gotta say LA set the highlight bar pretty high – for me anyway (emoticon)

        • Grey

          Grey says:
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          You didn’t go get ice cream? You communist, SteveNZ? Oh, well… Was great hanging out with you… Cougs notified me the day after we went out that I actually took you to the wrong restaurant… Next time! (The one we went to was great, but the owner’s other one was the one I had been to before and loved.)

          • SteveNZ says:
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            @Grey: Ha, that’s pretty funny. What’s the name of the other place?

            ‘Fun’ fact from my FCL collapse – from the last 13 starts (incl 9 in one day to blow up the GS limit) I got one win.

            ONE.

            • Grey

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              Mo Chica… Not the place we went to wasn’t awesome, but I had been the other one (looks similar; thought it was it until Cougs said it wasn’t)… Ugh on the RCL… Did the trip play into your loss?

                • Grey

                  Grey says:
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                  August really killed you… Looks my May… I had a few weeks where I had a four homer week and two six homer weeks… Was chasing homers after that…

                  • SteveNZ says:
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                    @Grey: I was 4 HRs, 9 RBI and 3 Wins from winning it.

                    Losing Stanton and Abreu’s quiet finish to the season pretty key there…

                    • Grey

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                      Damn, that hurts… Yeah, I wasn’t that close at all… Rudy dominated the last month…

  43. SteveNZ says:
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    Eff you Carpenter. Where was this in the h2h semis?

    • Grey

      Grey says:
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      Ha! Steve’s back!

      • SteveNZ says:
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        @Grey: Oh, and I lost the 3rd/4th playoff in h2h solely on account of Vincent’s meltdown on the final day.

        • Grey

          Grey says:
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          Holy crap… That sucks big time… Royce! finally won his H2H…

          • Grey

            Grey says:
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            If that’s a consolation (it’s not really)

            • SteveNZ says:
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              @Grey: Aw, it kind of is. At least one of the brothers had a happy ending to the season!

              • Grey

                Grey says:
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                Yeah, this is true…

    • Montezuma's Revenge... right now says:
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      @SteveNZ: try entire 6 months of season

  44. Montezuma's Revenge... right now says:
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    man, rosie sucks, but cruz took about 3 whole seconds longer to find where that ball was than molina would’ve, runner wouldn’t have scored on molina (this is assuming ball even would’ve gotten away from molina)

    • Montezuma's Revenge... right now says:
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      @Montezuma’s Revenge… right now: wong gonna wong here. fatt adams finally back to trying to hit the ball hard, rather than into certain spots for singles (like somebody tricked him into doing all year)

      • Grey

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        Maybe he was hypnotized…

    • Grey

      Grey says:
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      I hear ya

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