Went over the catchers1st basemen2nd basemen and shortstops and top 20 3rd basemen for 2014 fantasy baseball.  Guess what’s next!  No, not pitchers. Read the title, man.  In 2010, there were only 5 outfielders that hit 30 homers, in 2011 there were 9, 14 in 2012 and in 2013 there were 3.  This year, small bounce back with 6.  That did just mean there were less homers from other positions though, it didn’t mean a bounce back all around for baseball.  We are only a few years away from someone leading the league with 25 homers.  Steals were still around.  There were 14 outfielders who stole 30 bases in 2012, 10 in 2013 and this year there were 11.  As before, these rankings are from our Fantasy Baseball Player Rater with my comments.  Anyway, here’s the top 20 outfielders for 2014 fantasy baseball and how they compare to where I originally ranked them:

1. Mike Trout – I’d be liar if I said I wasn’t concerned about the huge difference in how many steals he should’ve had (35 thereabouts), and how many steals he did have (16 exactabouts).  Hate to see his steals go the way of the dodo simply because his real baseball value is so much for the Angels they can’t risk him being injured on a steal.  That’s gotta be the worst reason for anyone to lose fantasy value, to preserve real baseball value.  As the Iron Sheik would say, ptooey!  Sorry, if you’re reading this aloud and you just spit on your monitor.  Preseason Rank #1, 2014 Projections:  115/30/102/.319/35, Final Numbers:  115/36/111/.287/16

2. Giancarlo Stanton – In the beginning of the year, I dreamt of a world where Giancarlo’s underwear drawer was large enough that I could fit comfortably inside without disturbing his beautifully folded gotchies.  Never did I imagine he’d match my home run projections, blow away all my other projections and allow me to do renovations on his underwear drawer so I could stretch out while I slept in there.  I wonder if I can fit a fan in here.  It’s stuffy.  Preseason Rank #10, 2014 Projections:  79/36/89/.264/4, Final Numbers: 89/37/105/.288/13

3. Michael Brantley – From my sleeper post last year, “I’ve gone to this well more times than Baby Jessica’s rescuers, but in Triple-A, Brantley stole 46 bases in 116 games.  Now, unless the bases are closer than 90 feet at the Indians’ Triple-A affiliate in Columbus (who, by the way, would’ve approved of the team name Indians, but would’ve thought he was on a different continent), I don’t think that kind of speed just disappears.  Kipnis has stolen a ton of bases with the Indians, so there’s no red light across the organization.  Maybe Brantley has just taken longer to get acclimated to the major leagues than any other red-blooded man (that’s red-blooded man, protestor looking for a fight over the Indians logo and mascot).  Brantley is also entering his 27-year-old season (around the age when hitters come into their own) and just finished his biggest power year.  Sure, it was only ten homers, but if he can get to 15 homers and somehow, some way manage to find those other 30 steals that he left back in the minors, he’ll be a top 15 outfielder for all of baseball, not just the AL.”  And that’s me quoting me!  Loved Brantley in the preseason, you knew about it, you’re welcome.  Preseason Rank #48, 2014 Projections:  69/12/77/.280/20, Final Numbers:  94/20/97/.327/23

4. Jose Bautista – Went over him in the top 20 1st basemen.

5. Nelson Cruz – Yup, I was taken by surprise by Cruz’s season, but other than Boras, who pushed Cruz to a one-year deal, everyone was surprised by Cruz’s season.  Seems like every year the O’s have some guy come out of nowhere to hit a shizzton of homers.  Here’s to Schoop in 2015!  Preseason Rank #44, 2014 Projections:  60/25/74/.259/6, Final Numbers: 87/40/108/.271/4

6. Carlos Gomez – Finally, we have someone that is nearly right on for projections and end-of-the-season stats so we can compare to how much offense I thought there would be vs. how much offense there actually was.  Gomez matched projections almost identically and yet my ranking was 12 guys off.  12 guys that should’ve been better that just weren’t here.  Like Al from Happy Days, yep, yep, yep.  Preseason Rank #18, 2014 Projections:  84/22/71/.259/35, Final Numbers: 95/23/73/.284/34

7. Andrew McCutchen – Since there was a landmine behind just about every door in the first round, The Dread Pirate didn’t kill anyone’s year.  He led the NL in OPS (3rd in majors) and…Ugh, I’m worried about his steals coming down too.   Since he’s going to be 28 next year, it’s gonna be something to watch.  If he goes from a 25/18 guy to a 21/12 guy, we could be looking at the beginning of the end of The Dread Pirate in the top 10 overall.  Preseason Rank #2, 2014 Projections:  91/25/94/.320/24, Final Numbers: 89/25/83/.314/18

8. Adam Jones – See what I said about McCutchen?  Okay, now look at Jones’s steals last year.  Luckily, Jones has more power than McCutchen, though not as much average.  I have a feeling the top 10 next year is gonna be surmised with:  Well, someone’s gotta be drafted in the top ten.  Preseason Rank #3, 2014 Projections:  94/32/105/.282/15, Final Numbers: 88/29/96/.281/7

9. Justin Upton – It took a few years, but it’s clear which Upton sucks, we should’ve just used context clues.  Justin doesn’t seem remotely capable of the 20-steal speed he showed earlier in his career, but maybe at some point in his thirties he’ll grow twenty-foot arms and start flapping around the bases fast like Hunter Pence.  Preseason Rank #11, 2014 Projections:  88/25/79/.270/12, Final Numbers:  77/29/102/.270/8

10. Charlie Blackmon – As with our fine nation, the 2014 season was made possible by the sweat and tears of the unheralded Blackmon.  Trying to understand Blackmon’s season is like trying to understand how to pronounce Chiwetel Ejiofor.  (Hint:  It’s pronounced like TChiwetel Ejiofor just without the first T.)  He had some power in the minors, some speed, but never to this level.  Every once in a while, a guy comes out of nowhere and has a season that is huge, then slowly disappears again over the course of a few seasons.  Ludwick comes to mind.  I wouldn’t be surprised if we never see another season like this from Blackmon, and in a couple of years he’s a platoon player.  Preseason Unranked, Final Numbers: 82/19/72/.288/28

11. Hunter Pence – An art critic from the Barnes Foundation once said, “The Gangly Manbird is the best example of the American art form of caricatures made in a tourist locale.  The Gangly Manbird seems so life-like, but he’s really just a series of pencil markings on a sketch pad that an artist with little talent draws next to a Dippin Dots stand.”  Preseason Rank #19, 2014 Projections:  83/24/90/.262/12, Final Numbers: 106/20/74/.277/13

12. Matt Kemp – If it wasn’t for a huge final two weeks (that included a series in Coors), Kemp would’ve landed directly on my preseason projections.  Which means A) What should’ve been around the 24th most valuable outfielder was nearly top ten. B) Chris Brown was able to recover from Rihanna a lot quicker than Kemp. C) There’s no C.  Preseason Rank #24, 2014 Projections:  71/22/76/.266/10, Final Numbers: 77/25/89/.287/8

13. Jacoby Ellsbury – I nailed all of my preseason schmohawk posts this year and am now something like 29 for 30 in the last seven years for predicting guys that are overrated.  Ellsbury wasn’t a huge bust like some of the other ones — Kipnis and Mauer, or as obvious as Matt Carpenter.  He did come with the highest price tag in the preseason — 1st round at most sites.  (That’s the highest price tag of a preseason overrated player if you don’t count Mauer at Locoworld.)  Ellsbury ended up hitting more fly balls and less ground balls than he had in 2013, which helped him add some power, but it also hurt his average, and he probably would’ve been more valuable for fantasy and his team if he hit the ball on the ground more.  Either way, he was fine, but not a first rounder.  (Note on my projections, I figured he would have more runs due to mostly leading off not hitting third.)  Preseason Rank #13, 2014 Projections:  98/13/57/.279/32, Final Numbers:  71/16/70/.271/39

14. Yoenis Cespedes – The Human Centipede, the Yo Form Of Enis or whatever you want to call him is about as steady as they come — 25 HRs, 8 steals, .260, plus or minus 3 HRs, 2 SBs and .005, respectively.  On a larger note, there are a bunch of these 25-homer, 8-steal guys.  Not necessarily exciting if you can remember what hitters hit back in the early naughts, but also not terrible.  Preseason Rank #26, 2014 Projections:  70/25/85/.255/10, Final Numbers: 89/22/100/.260/7

15. Corey Dickerson – This might seem to be the antithesis of what you might think, but unlike Blackmon, I’m impressed by this Dickerson.  Don’t think this is the last we hear of him.  For most of you, it might be the first you’ve heard of him.  He has that thing going where as long as he plays, he will rack up stats for fantasy due to speed and power.  2014 was just the beginning.  Preseason Rank #89, 2014 Projections:  57/12/37/.274/10, Final Numbers: 74/24/76/.312/8

16. Lucas Duda – Went over him in the top 20 1st basemen.

17. Chris Carter – Went over him in the top 20 1st basemen.

18. Yasiel Puig – He had 11 homers through the end of May and he seemed headed for the big breakout that I envisioned, then suddenly Puig started to hit singles and became Charley Luau, only hitting five homers the rest of the way and only two homers from June 1st through September 15th.  In my 20/20 hindsight, it’s clear we can’t trust Puig to produce all year, because he’s flakier than C.J. Wilson’s scalp.  Preseason Rank #8, 2014 Projections:  90/28/94/.285/20, Final Numbers: 92/16/69/.296/11

19. Jayson Werth – I’ve said it before, I’ll say it many times again.  You can’t trust runs and RBIs.  You can predict power and speed.  A guy that is a 25-homer guy is a 25-homer guy; a guy with 15-steal speed can steal 15 bags.  Sure, there’s pluses and minuses with those stats even due to injuries, luck and slumps, but a hitter’s ability is his ability.  No hitters have 90-run or 90-RBI ability.  That’s solely based on his teammates.  I bring this up now because Werth’s season is totally being buoyed by runs and RBIs. (Yes, same could’ve be said of Puig, but I’m saying it now, okay?  Okay.)  Preseason Rank #22, 2014 Projections:  72/22/88/.279/10, Final Numbers: 85/16/82/.292/9

20. Matt Holliday – Not sure what’s scarier.  The fact that Holliday is a 22-homer guy plus or minus three homers with next-to-no speed or the fact that that (stutterer!) is a top 20 outfielder.  Prolly the latter, as in hitting walked up a latter with a rope.  Preseason Rank #21, 2014 Projections: 93/22/101/.292/5, Final Numbers: 83/20/90/.272/4

308 Comments
Newest
Oldest Most Voted
Inline Feedbacks
View all comments
Montezuma's Revenge... right now
Montezuma's Revenge... right now
7 years ago

man, rosie sucks, but cruz took about 3 whole seconds longer to find where that ball was than molina would’ve, runner wouldn’t have scored on molina (this is assuming ball even would’ve gotten away from molina)

Montezuma's Revenge... right now
Montezuma's Revenge... right now
Reply to  Montezuma's Revenge... right now
7 years ago

@Montezuma’s Revenge… right now: wong gonna wong here. fatt adams finally back to trying to hit the ball hard, rather than into certain spots for singles (like somebody tricked him into doing all year)

SteveNZ
SteveNZ
7 years ago

Eff you Carpenter. Where was this in the h2h semis?

SteveNZ
SteveNZ
Reply to  Grey
7 years ago

@Grey: Oh, and I lost the 3rd/4th playoff in h2h solely on account of Vincent’s meltdown on the final day.

SteveNZ
SteveNZ
Reply to  Grey
7 years ago

@Grey: Aw, it kind of is. At least one of the brothers had a happy ending to the season!

Montezuma's Revenge... right now
Montezuma's Revenge... right now
Reply to  SteveNZ
7 years ago

@SteveNZ: try entire 6 months of season

Montezuma's Revenge... right now
Montezuma's Revenge... right now
Reply to  Montezuma's Revenge... right now
7 years ago

@Montezuma’s Revenge… right now: on crapenter i mean.

SteveNZ
SteveNZ
7 years ago

Honey, I’m home!

J-FOH
J-FOH
Reply to  SteveNZ
7 years ago

@SteveNZ: STEVE!

and no my caps isn’t stuck on

SteveNZ
SteveNZ
Reply to  J-FOH
7 years ago

@J-FOH: Did we really go to that game? Was it really only three weeks ago?

J-FOH
J-FOH
Reply to  SteveNZ
7 years ago

@SteveNZ: yes we did, the only game I went to all year and maybe my last for a long time, but what a great note to go out on. I have searched my soul and just don’t care about real baseball that much anymore, but spending time with good people at a ball game is worth it.

SteveNZ
SteveNZ
Reply to  Grey
7 years ago

@Grey: Hey now!

We had a great time, we really did. Think we managed to get round all the main attractions and ate a couple of great dinners, but it was certainly a pretty full-on two weeks – though regretfully we didn’t make to to the great ice-cream on the Ile St Louis.

Feeling pretty dazed today – got home yesterday morning afar flying all the way home from London with a 3-hour stop in Seoul.

Gotta say LA set the highlight bar pretty high – for me anyway (emoticon)

SteveNZ
SteveNZ
Reply to  Grey
7 years ago

@Grey: Ha, that’s pretty funny. What’s the name of the other place?

‘Fun’ fact from my FCL collapse – from the last 13 starts (incl 9 in one day to blow up the GS limit) I got one win.

ONE.

Frank
Frank
7 years ago

R Zimmerman or jay Bruce in a dynasty league? I get Bruce bit can’t pull trigger?!

J-FOH
J-FOH
Reply to  Frank
7 years ago

@Frank: Bruce! pull it

Frank
Frank
Reply to  Grey
7 years ago

@Grey: cheers guys, to clarify it’s 8×8 with k’s against, obp and slg.

J-FOH
J-FOH
7 years ago

Fred Lewis followed me on Twitter, that puts me into perspective for where I stand in this world of baseball.

Friend to me, ” why are you sad, he’s that the guy from Best in Show”
Me “I wish, he’s an insignificant baseball player”

J-FOH
J-FOH
Reply to  Grey
7 years ago

@Grey: you assume I blast Bochy on Twitter?…Yeah, I do. But in my defense he is a big fat headed pussy. It says a lot abut society when a big whiny little girl like him is one of the better managers of the game that can motivate a group of mostly marginal players in the fall every year. So what I’m saying is to relate to society’s youth you need to be a big whiny pussy and then they got your attention. Fucking emo music and everyone gets a trophy kids.

J-FOH
J-FOH
Reply to  Grey
7 years ago

@Grey: I don’t want to risk the unfollow. I now have fred, a porn star and great blaxploitation star fred williamson following me.

Nice Ehrlich call. Just as we have the ghost of Mac Dre at our disposal we need to use our inner Ehrlich to makes calls

Terrence Mann
Terrence Mann
7 years ago

My roommate pointed out the fact that Hunter Pence is a doppelganger for Colorado movie theater murderer James Holmes. It’s uncanny.

goodfold2
goodfold2
Reply to  Terrence Mann
7 years ago

@Terrence Mann: that ain’t no accident, that’s how pence inspires people. that and making weird signs.

jef with 1 f
jef with 1 f
7 years ago

I see what your doing moustakas …trying to get people excited about you for next year…well I’m not buying it

jef with 1 f
jef with 1 f
Reply to  Grey
7 years ago

@Grey: Oh I’m not…but I am going to be in on Cain

de nachos
de nachos
Reply to  Grey
7 years ago

@Grey: I do wish Cain were Marte’s age. is it Insane to be ageist against a 29 year old?

jef with 1 f
jef with 1 f
Reply to  de nachos
7 years ago

@de nachos: Yea that’s my worry with him…how much betterbdoes he actually get..or is this it..hard to tell but he won’t really cost much anyway

J-FOH
J-FOH
Reply to  Grey
7 years ago

@Grey: I think Steamers is pretty decent on projections for Cain, but I wouldn’t count on any more than 500 AB’s.

J-FOH
J-FOH
Reply to  Grey
7 years ago

@Grey: 59/8/53/209/.269

situationally I don’t think KC is the best place for him to be. That high BABIP and no major change to his batted ball stats make me meh. Might be a guy over drafted that just opens the door to grab someone with a better floor. That K rate/ BB rate will never make him a realistic lead off man. Hoping he learns how to take a walk and thinking the guy we saw in those 244 AB’s in 2o12 is where he is going is a fool’s errand. He can go do those things on someone else’s team. Maybe he gets “lucky” but a .380 BABIP two years in a row is like trying to get laid twice using the same line with the same woman after she caught you stealing her cash as you left her place.

J-FOH
J-FOH
Reply to  Grey
7 years ago

@Grey: my point exactly, it was suppose to be 20….those are the on the moon stats with Bochy heading the rules committee. new rule, catchers are not allowed to move once the pitch is thrown and will now be DH’s. Hey Bruce, how do we catch from the dugout? you don’t, the ump’s are the new catchers and all players that get to third will be rewarded home base because as we all know third base is basically crossing home plate…in baseball and with the ladies.

J-FOH
J-FOH
Reply to  Grey
7 years ago

@Grey: I’m feeling some heavy off season rants coming on

J-FOH
J-FOH
Reply to  Grey
7 years ago

@Grey: I’ll do my best not to hurt the children but I can’t make any promises

jef with 1 f
jef with 1 f
7 years ago

Did another DK today it’s both of today’s games..Waino, Ventura and loaded up on totals against Norris…off to a good start

jef with 1 f
jef with 1 f
Reply to  jef with 1 f
7 years ago

@jef with 1 f: *Royals

asdfasdf
asdfasdf
7 years ago

Hey, in an OBP dynasty league how would you rank these guys (please keep in mind that I already have a 1B, so if I draft Votto he would have to be my UTIL): Braun, Kemp, Votto, Ellsbury. They are all roughly the same age. Thanks!

asdfasdf
asdfasdf
Reply to  Grey
7 years ago

@Grey: Thanks, that was quick. You think Kemp will stay healthy? Also where would Votto have ranked if I didn’t have a 1B already (his OBP would help a lot)?

asdfasdf
asdfasdf
Reply to  Grey
7 years ago

@Grey: Okay, thanks!

nick the dick
nick the dick
7 years ago

Sent you a couple emails G

jef with 1 f
jef with 1 f
Reply to  nick the dick
7 years ago

@nick the dick: He only opens them if the subject says Giancarlo

jef with 1 f
jef with 1 f
Reply to  Grey
7 years ago

@Grey: oh you stepped it up

nick the dick
nick the dick
Reply to  Grey
7 years ago

@Grey: yeah

nick the dick
nick the dick
Reply to  Grey
7 years ago

@Grey: cool! Yeah thats one of my favs. Thats my boy playing the guitar on that one too

nick the dick
nick the dick
Reply to  Grey
7 years ago

@Grey: gotta get it while the gettins good!

nick the dick
nick the dick
Reply to  Grey
7 years ago

@Grey: yeah man, my buddy knows his way around a beat. It’s funny too cuz hes not a hip hop head kinda guy, hes just a guitar player who started messing with some beats years and years ago and i told him those are good, we should do some tracks

nick the dick
nick the dick
Reply to  Grey
7 years ago

@Grey: oh yeah i love to hear actual opinions. I hear that alot about the hooks actually. I know i could make a catchier kinda hook but its not really my focus on some of em. Sometimes i feel like too much hook takes away from the lyrics and things and people judge songs by only the hook. Sometimes i do one like so damn old school where its a pretty good lengthy hook but most of the time focus on verses more. Also, my verses are never 16 bars, theyre always long as shit cuz i find the classic 16 bars, hook, 16 bars, hook, breakdown, hook pattern kinda monotonous and restricting. In a perfect world, i would want hooks like the mid 90s where a DJ just scratches samples and stuff for it cuz i love those kind of hooks but dont have the luxury of a good DJ to do it.

nick the dick
nick the dick
Reply to  Grey
7 years ago

@Grey: another factor about the hooks is that i dont record often anymore, prob been well over a year right now, cuz my boy moved away so when we do something hes like im coming down tomorrow lets do a couple songs. Ill have plenty of verses and lines ready but need to scrounge to put everything together to a beat quickly after a long layoff

nick the dick
nick the dick
Reply to  Grey
7 years ago

@Grey: about rapping over other beats, we def used to use other beats back in the day but i try for the most part so stick to our original beats. Im sure if i was recording stuff like everyday we would do that, but when its once in a blue moon, i try to use the beats he makes me. One of the songs i sent you is actually an underground beat off that Wu Tang Indie album

nick the dick
nick the dick
Reply to  Grey
7 years ago

@Grey: yup, youre absolutely right. These tracks range from 2 years to prob 7 or 8 years old so its from a while ago. And this is some low budget shit too, a good amount of time is spent just making them sounds halfway decent quality. Trust me G, if i had the time and resources to do stuff consistently and with the right people and equipment then it would be way closer to how i want it to be. It sucks that its just a once in a while bang out a couple quick songs thing for me

nick the dick
nick the dick
Reply to  Grey
7 years ago

@Grey: you are wise beyond your years my friend.

nick the dick
nick the dick
Reply to  Grey
7 years ago

@Grey: a different buddy of mine who i recorded a few of those tracks with just on a laptop actually said he wants to do some stuff this week and im thinking about putting down the razzball track for ya

nick the dick
nick the dick
Reply to  Grey
7 years ago

@Grey: haha but 15/15 from a waiver wire second baseman is sooo enticing!

nick the dick
nick the dick
Reply to  Grey
7 years ago

@Grey: sent you one more email with a few older tracks. The first one is the Camp Lo ‘Luchini’ beat

nick the dick
nick the dick
Reply to  Grey
7 years ago

@Grey: Ha thats actually what they voted me as in the yearbook, most grumpy. C’mon i’m a nice guy!…i thought you would like first things first. Thanks for checking em out G.

nick the dick
nick the dick
Reply to  Grey
7 years ago

@Grey: the 4 in the other email i sent are some of the most solid ones

nick the dick
nick the dick
Reply to  Grey
7 years ago

@Grey: learned myself some intraweb so i could turn em to mp3s and send em. I feel so smart!

jef with 1 f
jef with 1 f
7 years ago

Tillman took a shizz on my DK last night but my line up kept me alive…had all Royals and Orioles…I have Waino and yadi going today to get me in the money..I’m 5pts out but I’m assuming most people have Waino so really I need Yadi to do something

jef with 1 f
jef with 1 f
Reply to  Grey
7 years ago

@Grey: I did both first games but there are other options

jef with 1 f
jef with 1 f
Reply to  Grey
7 years ago

@Grey: there’s some free ones everyday..you should give it a shot it’s fun…I think you’ll like it…there’s an app for the phone which is good to keep track but I recommend setting up a team on the CPU…..DO IT

jef with 1 f
jef with 1 f
Reply to  Grey
7 years ago

@Grey: Ha I’m the same way…I just put in like $10 -$20 a week and cap it at that..you’d like it a lot

jef with 1 f
jef with 1 f
Reply to  Grey
7 years ago

@Grey: Ha ha

jef with 1 f
jef with 1 f
Reply to  Grey
7 years ago

@Grey: you can play $1-$2–$5 games and so on

Hondo
Hondo
7 years ago

I checked RW for the first time since FBB season ended and I got a warning about 2 weeks ago for using the word “boobs”
IF Razzball was that strict you’d have to suspend yourself.LOL

Hondo
Hondo
Reply to  Grey
7 years ago

@Grey:

Comments about Billy Butlers physique have been known to cause nightmares not only for small children,but also for Jihad terrorists,Tony Montana and Adolph Hitler.
As RW’s mods said-“Doing so may lead to you being immediately and permanently banned. You agree that the webmaster, administrator and moderators of this forum have the right to remove, edit, move or close any topic at any time should they see fit.” LOL

Fuck ’em.Oops.

Hondo
Hondo
Reply to  Grey
7 years ago

@Grey: Mauer sounds like Meower.I suspect that is close enough to the word “pussy” to have NBC goons take out a hit on me.
Probably by a Maori with a cricket bat.

The Theory
The Theory
7 years ago

This list, honestly, shocks me.

I thought for sure there would be a bunch of players who did better than Werth and Holliday. And yet here we are. Hell, we’ve got someone batting .227 on the year in the top-20. Yeah, Chris Carter came with a bunch of home runs, but Adam Dunn barely cracked the top40 in 2012 (per RotoGraphs), even with 41 home runs (albeit with a slightly worse BA, though the difference between a .204 and .227 feels kind of moot–a terrible BA is a terrible BA).

I have a feeling next year’s draft is going to be wonky. And probably not in the good, warm-fuzzy way.

de nachos
de nachos
7 years ago

Slow reader here, finally got to the last line of the post. “Prolly the latter, as in hitting walked up a latter with a rope.” Hitting was shootin’ pool with a rope, amirite?

de nachos
de nachos
Reply to  Grey
7 years ago

@Grey: WHISKEY DICK! New catch phrase it’s playing well in Peoria.

J-FOH
J-FOH
Reply to  de nachos
7 years ago

@de nachos: HA!

Mike
7 years ago

Escobar with a dinger and Billy “2 lbs of shizz in a 1-lb bag” Butler gets an infield single…the universe is collapsing in on itself

J-FOH
J-FOH
Reply to  Mike
7 years ago

@Mike: what are you talking about. Baseball ended like two weeks a go

Baseball Cougar
Baseball Cougar
7 years ago

I have to lock in a keeper for the next 3 years. Cost is the same for all 3. My choices are:
Marte, Myers, and Harvey.
Ignoring need, who is the best keeper over the next 3 years?
Thanks!

JashFath
7 years ago

Giancarlo Christ! You aren’t kidding, what happened to this fantasy position. Just save your time and don’t worry about making Top-40 Outfielders posts.

PK
PK
7 years ago

Any other Razzballers going to any CS games? I’m taking one of the four girl readers to the first NLCS game tomorrow.

rapscallion13
rapscallion13
Reply to  PK
7 years ago

@PK: I attended that wonderful NL wildcard game. If the LCS is ever in Pittsburgh, I hope to be there.

PK
PK
Reply to  rapscallion13
7 years ago

@rapscallion13: Ah, that must have been a bummer for you. Easily the worst game of the postseason so far. Although you did get to see MLB history, as Crawford was the first shortstop to ever hit a grand slam in the postseason!

jef with 1 f
jef with 1 f
Reply to  PK
7 years ago

@PK: I’ll be attending an NLCS game next season at CITI Field

goodfold2
goodfold2
Reply to  jef with 1 f
7 years ago

@jef with 1 f: Metco, good luck there.

gareth
gareth
7 years ago

I want to write a Column for Razzball.

Sky
Sky
Reply to  gareth
7 years ago

You can write the Cleveland Indians Preview

jef with 1 f
jef with 1 f
Reply to  Grey
7 years ago

@Grey: Ha ha

justin
justin
7 years ago

Would you rather have Matt Carpenter or Ryu?

I know they are complete oposite positions, but in a vacuum?

I would be trading away Ryu and i currently have a ton of keeper worthy SP and no 3b since Miggy is no longer eligible there.

Thank you

Gonzo_The_Great
Gonzo_The_Great
7 years ago

A Friday without a “Buy” column is like a Friday without sunshine. No wonder it’s raining here.

Big Magoo
Big Magoo
7 years ago

Nice call on Brantley. It’s obviously a huge bonus to get McCutchen-like numbers from player outside of the top 200 picks. I feel like he might be a bit overrated going into next season though. Could easily see him putting up a .285/15/20 type of line based on his profile and skill set. It’ll probably take a top 30 pick to get him too.

It seemed like I was driving the Kemp bandwagon for a while there. It was pretty empty for most of the season too. All of the signs were there for a prime buy-low opportunity a month into the season though. Here’s his post-ASB line: 39/17/54/3/.309 in 64 games (263 plate appearances. He led the league with a .606 slugging percentage in the 2nd half too. Looks like a solid 3rd rounder next year, assuming good health. Could even make an argument for him in the 2nd.

Might as well just make Giancarlo at #2 overall in your ’15 rankings official right now. You know you want to. I think I’d feel more comfortable with a high floor player like Cutch at that spot though.

Maybe there’s an idea for an offseason series of articles – take two or three players with similar ADPs and different writers make cases for why one player should be drafted before the other(s). Would make for some fun debates.

J-FOH
J-FOH
Reply to  Grey
7 years ago

@Grey: I have been e-mailing him and told him to e-mail you…sheesh, have some faith in my recruiting skills.

Big Magoo
Big Magoo
Reply to  Grey
7 years ago

@J-FOH: @Grey: Yeah, I’ve been exchanging emails with JFOH… I’ll send you an email too. I’d love to be able to contribute somehow.

Cutch is kind of in the same boat as Trout, I think. Seems like the Pirates don’t want him risking injury by running too much, just like you mentioned in the Trout blurb. I feel like Cutch is still a .300/25/20 player, but if he’s more of a 20/12 guy going forward, it’s obviously a huge difference.

I like Marte too. Liked him coming into this season as well. Reminds me of Gomez just before the power spike. It wouldn’t shock me if he went 20/30 next season.

Kemp is somewhat Pence-ish, but he has higher ceiling. The 30+ steal days are gone, but I think he can manage 10-15. Throw in 25-30 homers and a .275ish average and he looks like an easy 3rd rounder to me. It’s all about health with him.

Joe
Joe
Reply to  Grey
7 years ago

@Grey: For what it is worth, Cutch did have 17 steals heading into August (5 in July) then missed a little over two weeks with the broken rib after getting beaned. From that point on, he attempted 3 steals and only actually had one steal (although one steal was also not counted because of some stat/rule anomaly that the pirates broadcasters didn’t agree with).

Perhaps the Pirates did exactly what you say and will fear an injury trying to swipe bags. On the other hand, it seems more like he just broke some ribs and sliding probably hurt. At 28, I don’t think its unreasonable to start expecting a decline in speed, but I still think the decrease in speed had more to do with the injury and managing the injury than it did with anything else.

After Trout, there are plenty of arguments about who should go 2-5, but Cutch seems as safe as anyone. Looking at this season as a whole, nothing in his pace numbers suggest a decline and the stolen base argument seems better explained by an injury than anything else considering he was on pace for about 25-30 steals before the injury.

Big Magoo
Big Magoo
Reply to  Joe
7 years ago

@Joe: The injury played a big part in his lack of running over the last two months of the season, no question. I think he’s still a safe bet for 20 steals assuming good health, but the combination of being another year older and the Pirates possibly wanting to limit his risk of getting injured might prevent him from exceeding that number going forward.

Big Magoo
Big Magoo
Reply to  Grey
7 years ago

@Grey: I’ll reach out to Oaktown and see what he wants to do… Going aggressive on Marte, huh? Somewhere around 30-35 overall maybe? The only question with him is the counting stats since he seems to get jerked around the lineup from time to time. He’d be a solid option anywhere outside of the top 40, I think… The Kemp/Pence comparison was fine. I just think that Kemp has a higher ceiling while Pence is more of a high floor type of player, though that floor is getting a bit lower with each passing year…

jef with 1 f
jef with 1 f
Reply to  Big Magoo
7 years ago

@Big Magoo: So now you will have the writers rights to embed that we all covet.

Big Magoo
Big Magoo
Reply to  jef with 1 f
7 years ago
J-FOH
J-FOH
Reply to  Big Magoo
7 years ago

@Big Magoo: damn, you are sexy when you talk projections

Big Magoo
Big Magoo
Reply to  J-FOH
7 years ago

@J-FOH: *blushes*

J-FOH
J-FOH
Reply to  Big Magoo
7 years ago

@Big Magoo: I like the Gomez comparison only if Marte starts juicing it up, like i assume Gomez did. he got way too big with the power spike correlation. I think Polanco will be the steal in Pittsburgh for next year. He just has that soured thing right now and i hope it carries over for him.

I told grey I was working on you and Oaktown and he goes and spills the groceries all over the floor. I was planning this whole surprise party and now he’s gonna get a hostess and a scented candle

Big Magoo
Big Magoo
Reply to  J-FOH
7 years ago

@J-FOH: PEDs are a whole different ball game. I don’t even consider them to be a factor unless a player is a known user and his numbers were drastically inflated from his career averages during the time period that he was known/strongly suspected of using. I don’t know one way or the other about Gomez, just that his plate discipline, batted ball profile, and overall skill set was very similar to Marte’s at a similar age.

And surprise parties are overrated. Nothing wrong with a hostess either, especially if you’ve got a good buzz going…

J-FOH
J-FOH
Reply to  Big Magoo
7 years ago

@Big Magoo: but it was my special gift.

goodfold2
goodfold2
Reply to  Big Magoo
7 years ago

@Big Magoo: that series of articles is good idea and would make for good debates, and make for better prepared readers, good stuff. cutch’s lesser steals isn’t on same plane as upton, who simply doesn’t even try to steal barely at all anymore (plus this has been going on for a few years with upton)

Alan
Alan
7 years ago

What do you think about Polanco, Tavares, and Dickerson for next year?

Alan
Alan
Reply to  Grey
7 years ago

What kind of numbers would you expect from Tavares and Polanco?

Johnny Boy
Johnny Boy
7 years ago

55 more counting stats and a higher batting average than your predictions for Brantley. That seems like a big difference. While you loved Brantley more than other rankers, your love for him still wasn’t high enough to get people to truly target him in drafts

JeF With 1 F
JeF With 1 F
Reply to  Johnny Boy
7 years ago

@Johnny Boy: Nobody could have predicted the type of numbers that he put up this year…Basically Grey was opening our eyes to him saying he could have a good year and worth taking in the draft with upside. It made me grab him late….and ill be keeping him.

Aubrey Plaza's Pillow
Aubrey Plaza's Pillow
Reply to  Johnny Boy
7 years ago

@Johnny Boy: depends on how many spots above other sites rankings he put him, and i’m pretty sure it was a lot. i got him nowhere since in deep or regular sized leagues i already had my OF by that point, and in shallower leagues early in season it’s hard to move off guys who ranked much higher, even though he was outperforming them. Same reason i never once picked up Blackman, either too stocked with OF, and/or didn’t believe he was that good. That was later in season true of Blackman, not of Brantley.

J-FOH
J-FOH
7 years ago
WittleWeebles
WittleWeebles
7 years ago

I had McCutchen/Jones/J. Upton in my two leagues. They were a big reason why I won both. While people were busy picking pitchers in the early rounds I grabbed solid outfielders. Thanks for the tips all year Grey.

I do have one question though. What to make of Jay Bruce?

booya
booya
7 years ago

Please rank your top 3 of these options for next year:

Andrew Heaney
Carlos Martinez
Henderson Alvarez
Homer Bailey
Anibal Sanchez

Thanks

darkness
darkness
7 years ago

Kemp finished at .289 AVG

Carnac
Carnac
Reply to  darkness
7 years ago

*.287

JeF With 1 F
JeF With 1 F
Reply to  Carnac
7 years ago

@Carnac: At .289 i was going to be pretty high on him next season…at .287 not so much.

ashtray
ashtray
7 years ago

My top 3 OF were Braun, Choo and Heyward and none of them made this list. I’m guessing that’s part of why I didn’t win.

ashtray
ashtray
Reply to  Grey
7 years ago

@Grey: Effing Votto

kevinmac
kevinmac
7 years ago

I usually have a good idea on who to target after a season concludes…but the first couple rounds are gonna be like throwing poo at a wall and hoping a whole peanut sticks.

JeF With 1 F
JeF With 1 F
7 years ago

Great stuff..looking forward to your Buy/Sell this afternoon

Carnac
Carnac
Reply to  JeF With 1 F
7 years ago

HA

PK
PK
Reply to  JeF With 1 F
7 years ago

@JeF With 1 F: Made me chuckle.

JeF With 1 F
JeF With 1 F
Reply to  PK
7 years ago

@Carnac: @Grey: @PK: Whats so funny?…nobody else is playing daily fantasy for the playoffs??? You mean im the only one???

JeF With 1 F
JeF With 1 F
Reply to  Grey
7 years ago

@Grey: Ha ha…i was actually going to throw tillman against the royals…tillmans pretty cheap and sometimes taking the route less traveled in DK is the way to separate yourself from the pack…and sometimes its the way to get destroyed ha ha

JeF With 1 F
JeF With 1 F
Reply to  Grey
7 years ago

@Grey: No your right just starters…and i dont like taking opposing pitchers

J-FOH
J-FOH
Reply to  Grey
7 years ago

@Grey: In season taking opposing pitchers is not a bad play. You are always looking at team K rate so if the Braves play the Cubs or the Marlins or the Astros then you jump all over that game because K’s rule in DFS and your probability shoots up for the win. This of course is dependent on what type of game you are playing. But this is Sky’s department

J-FOH
J-FOH
Reply to  Grey
7 years ago

@Grey: I always thought Gumbel translated to douchebag

jef with 1 f
jef with 1 f
Reply to  Grey
7 years ago

@Grey: Yea I actually saw that…and I agree Gumble is a douche

henry rowengartner
henry rowengartner
7 years ago

Hey Grey, I just want to start off and say thank you for your help and leading my team to the championship. Now that the season has come to an end I’m looking at my potential keepers for next year. I briefly asked you this question but didn’t layout all the details. We can only keep players for 3 total years and surrender the draft pick 2 round earlier then the pervious year (for every year a player is kept). It’s a 12 team H2H, 4xOF, 2xUTIL, and 5×5 Stats with OBP instead of AVG. With so many injuries this year it caused the worst teams to dump their players and the best teams to dump their top draft picks. So I ended up doing the same to keep up with everyone and now I don’t have a pick until the 8th round and have a lot of the low middle round picks. My keepers I am deciding between are Michael Cuddyer (9th & 2 seasons left), Johnny Cueto (10th & 2 seasons), Brian Dozier (12th & 2 seasons), Manny Machado (13th & 1 season), Oscar Taveras (17th & 1 season), Yasiel Puig (21st & 2 seasons), Mookie Betts (23rd & 2 seasons), and Willy Peralta (23rd & 2 seasons). I’m thinking about keeping Cueto, Dozier, Machado, Puig, and then my last is a toss up between Betts and Taveras. After hearing about your love for Wong it only helped me believe my love for him is real. So i’m thinking about trading Dozier at the draft for an early round pick(s) and hopefully drafting Wong in the middle rounds. I’m also thinking about doing the same with Machado and possibly Cueto. I really don’t want to give up on next year so I’m curious of who you would keep and what type of moves you would make to help better my terrible draft pick situation.

JeF With 1 F
JeF With 1 F
Reply to  Grey
7 years ago

@Grey: But trading Draft Picks for players…that I like.

de nachos
de nachos
7 years ago

aw, Al “Delvecchio” Molinaro from Happy Days is alive at age 95. This made me smile. Thanks for the warm fuzzy Friday, Grey.