Top 20 catchers1st basemen and the top 20 2nd basemen for 2014 are in the books.  What a strange, glorious trip it’s been!  Though not really.  Today, the top 20 shortstops for 2014 fantasy baseball get to shine.  Hmm… Actually, most of these won’t shine.  They’re cloudy with a chance of crapballs.  To be a bit more specific, Dee Gordon was 5th for 2nd baseman, here he’s second overall.  Then it stabilizes with Zobrist being 13th at 2nd basemen and only 12th here.  But then the shortstops flat line with guys like Jordy Mercer and Brock Holt appearing on this list and not even making in the top 20 2nd basemen.  Either way, it’s ugly.  Okay, enough of the hubbub on the tomfoolery.  To recap, this final ranking is from our Fantasy Baseball Player Rater with my comments.  The Player Rater allows me to be impartial while looking at how I ranked them in the preseason.  Anyway, here’s the top 20 shortstops for 2014 fantasy baseball and how they compare to where I originally ranked them:

1. Ian Desmond – I’ve been guilty as anyone for not giving Desmond his just desserts.  Give the man his well-deserved tiramisu!  Well, I’m here to tell you I won’t be making the same mistake three years in a row.  As George Bush would tell you, fool me once, shame on you.  Fool me twice, we won’t get fooled again by The Who.  Preseason Rank #3, 2014 Projections:  71/20/87/.271/17, Final Numbers: 73/24/91/.255/24

2. Dee Gordon – Went over him in the top 20 2nd basemen post.

3. Alexei Ramirez – One thing is evident even with a cursory look at my shortstop rankings.  I bumblefudged them massively.  From Segura being terrible to Alexei bouncing back from a miserable year, and every shortstop in-between.  There’s very few here that were more right than they were wrong.  What that tells me is every site messed up shortstops this year because I have the best rankings.  Continued in next blurb.  Preseason Rank #16, 2014 Projections:  64/8/69/.268/20, Final Numbers:  82/15/74/.273/21

4. Jose Reyes – The great thing about me being wrong on the shortstops is guys even as high as Alcides were widely available in most leagues as late as mid-April.  Shoot, I owned at least ten of the top 20 shortstops, including Alcides, on my RCL team and dropped and picked up all of them as late in the year as September.  Even Jhonny Peralta, coming in tenth overall, was available the last two weeks of the season in my league.  Justin Turner is still available.  What does all this mean?  You were probably using a hot schmotato at middle infidel or shortstop for most of the year, and that’s okay.  Look at me making you feel better about your crizzappy team.  Preseason Rank #6, 2014 Projections: 87/13/56/.288/25, Final Numbers:  94/9/51/.287/30

5. Jimmy Rollins – Next year, I suggest Ryne Sandberg bad mouth the whole team that shizz is motivating.  Assuming MLB agrees to let all Philly players use a stool at their position when they get too tired of being on their feet.  They’re old, y’all!  Preseason Rank #12, 2014 Projections:  71/12/57/.249/20, Final Numbers: 78/17/55/.243/28

6. Troy Tulowitzki – Yes, you only have to play three-quarters of the year to be a top 6 shortstop.  Shoot, you don’t even have to be a starter to be a top 20 shortstop (Justin Turner).  On June 4th, I traded Rafael Soriano, Keuchel, Elvis Andrus and Gerrit Cole for Tulo.  Haha, oops!  Well, not really.  In a 12 team league, which this was, all the guys I traded away were replaceable, which is appropriate since I had to replace Tulo too.  I ended up finishing 2nd to Rudy, but that trade had no bearing on my finish.  If anything, it helped free me up to pick up Arrieta, Storen, Arismendy and so on.  Preseason Rank #2, 2014 Projections:  81/27/92/.305/2, Final Numbers: 71/21/52/.312/1

7. Hanley Ramirez – The funny thing (not funny) Hanley only played in two more games than Tulo.  You were better with Tulo for a great 3 months than Hanley for a will-he-or-won’t-he play six months.  Well, obvi, since he’s ranked above him here.  Preseason Rank #1, 2014 Projections:  87/25/94/.272/18, Final Numbers:  64/13/71/.283/14

8. Alcides Escobar – Someone will skim everything about this post and think it’s my 2015 rankings.  That’s okay, let stunods be stunods, as my grandfather says.  For some positions, it might look like 2015’s ranking.  These shortstops?  I don’t know if any of them are gonna line up the same.  How do you rank a position where you’re better off just grabbing a guy off waivers?  Damn, Grey’s getting all philosophical!  And 3rd persony.  Preseason Rank #13, 2014 Projections:  64/6/60/.263/32, Final Numbers:  74/3/50/.285/31

9. Erick Aybar – I already mentioned how I dropped Alcides, but I also dropped Aybar.  Only I didn’t own him and drop him in the conventional sense.  I batty called Aybar.  That’s right, the ninth best shortstop was so inconsequential to me that I literally picked him up for one game and dropped him right after.  You’re either thinking I’m a moron or Aybar wasn’t that good.  You’re right on both counts!  I pretty much nailed his preseason projections and ranked him 17th overall.  That means there were eight shortstops that I thought would provide value that didn’t.  Yes, shizz just got real.  Preseason Rank #17, 2014 Projections:  79/6/51/.278/15, Final Numbers: 77/7/68/.278/16

10. Jhonny Peralta – In April, he hit .204 and 6 homers.  At that point, you probably figured he was going to have a terrible average all year and you didn’t want it dragging you down, so you dropped him.  What you missed out on if you did that was 3 homers per month and a .275 average!  Oh, wait, that’s not that great.  Preseason Rank #20, 2014 Projections:  61/14/70/.256/4, Final Numbers: 61/21/75/.263/3

11. Danny Santana – Dannys Antana wasn’t called up until May 3rd and at that point, he was a platoon player with Eduardo Escobar and Aaron Hicks.  Finally, around June 1st he started to play every day, until June 25th when he went down to injury.  At that point, he had 2 homers and 6 steals.  So, what does all that mean?  He wasn’t even a full-time player until July 18th and he ended up in the top 11.  And, let’s face it, even when he was a full-time player, he wasn’t exactly Tulo.  Preseason Unranked, Final Numbers: 70/7/40/.319/20

12. Ben Zobrist – Went over him in the top 20 2nd basemen post.

13. Starlin Castro – I didn’t like Castro in the preseason, gave him what I thought were terrible projections and a not-that-great ranking.  Yet, he did worse than my projections and ranking.  Patting myself on the back for that isn’t fair, plus it’s not easy because I have short arms.  Since he played decent for five months, then got hurt at the beginning of September, you didn’t have him in your lineup being bad, you just dropped him.  That means he’s more like the 7th best shortstop with a hot schmotato filling in the final month.  Preseason Rank #10, 2014 Projections: 76/12/54/.274/18, Final Numbers: 58/12/65/.292/4

14. Asdrubal Cabrera – Went over him in the top 20 2nd basemen post.

15. Elvis Andrus – Why the Comatose Rangers Fan hits so close to home is, if I would’ve hit my head in April and conked out until September, I would’ve been the Comatose Rangers Fan.  I really expected great things from the Rangers lineup, top to bottom.  Choo, Andrus, Rios, Fielder, Beltre…. That’s a recipe for wonderful, right?  Well, like a drafty window, I now get the shudders.  Preseason Rank #5, 2014 Projections:  93/7/70/.279/34, Final Numbers: 72/2/41/.263/27

16. Brandon Crawford – How bad are the top 20 shortstops?  If you gave me the choice of going back to April, with what I know now, and drafting from the 16th through the 20th shortstop, I would not draft Crawford.  Preseason Rank #34, 2014 Projections:  48/8/51/.242/2, Final Numbers: 54/10/69/.246/5

17. Jordy Mercer – Is it me or does every shortstop have twenty less runs than I projected them for?  (It’s not me.)  Preseason Rank #27, 2014 Projections:  71/12/54/.249/5, Final Numbers: 56/12/55/.255/4

18. Justin Turner – Hahahahahahaha… Justin Turner is in the top 20?  He never even had a starting job.  He was an injury replacement.  Sadly, he still did better than Segura.  Oh, Segura, how you hurt me soul.  Preseason Unranked, Final Numbers: 46/7/43/.340/6

19. Brock Holt – It didn’t hurt Brock Holt that he had thunderbolts going down his spandexed legs.  It also didn’t hurt that he hit leadoff for about three months.  It didn’t help that he didn’t have a a great manager like Jimmy Hart or Captain Lou.  It also didn’t help that he didn’t have any real power or speed.  Preseason Unranked, Final Numbers: 68/4/29/.281/12

20. J.J. Hardy – The 20th ranked shortstop last year at the end of the season was Yunel with 61/9/56/.256/4.  The year before it was again Yunel with 58/9/51/.253/5.  Hardy was actually a tad worse than both of those years because he didn’t have any steals.  What does this mean?  I long for the days of recapping catchers.  Preseason Rank #15, 2014 Projections:  61/23/70/.245/2, Final Numbers: 56/9/52/.268

  1. Ante GALIC says:
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    Grey!

    1. Won one league with Desmond.

    2. I remember all my friends in the Braves chatroom (Am a closet Braves’ fan, back in the closet after this year) lamenting about the fact that Dan Uggla REALLY sucked (even in the Giants’ minor league system) and how REALLY GREAT Desmond was and how they need a bat like Desmond’s.

    3. Going back to Lebanon from my annual leave next Sunday! Not looking forward to hearing more about ISIS. In fact, when I’m down there I don’t watch any actual news. I follow baseball (will be tough in the off-season to follow the ONLY development, the BIG winter trade or to follow the injury list which doesn’t change for 4 weeks) or download stuff for my viewing entertainment. I get a big shock on the flight over every nine weeks about US bombing literally in my own backyard (it’s less than 500 miles, that’s pretty close) or some flood or a Cali forest fire etc.

    Cheers,
    Ante

    • Grey

      Grey says:
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      1. Nice! 2. This year they needed a top of the order bat 3. Yikes… Try to enjoy yourself best you can!

  2. Good Will Hunting 2: Hunting Season says:
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    if that quote of Baseball America yesterday ranking Carpenter as #13th overall was true, not only am i worried about reading this source (i generally only do for prospect stuff, since it’s so hard to find anything prospect related, but not for fantasy specific info) with any look to relative player analysis i’m worried about the future, particularly if those writers/editors replicate themselves, to the point where we should go forward with what Bart said about Gen X’ers. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Pl3sgKj6oTQ

    • de nachos says:
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      @Good Will Hunting 2: Hunting Season: it’s a little early in the morn for me to follow your stream of consciousness, but I did find the full vid for ya

      • Good Will Hunting 2: Hunting Season says:
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        @de nachos: thanks, i was actually trying to find the shortest one possible, just the part with Bart mentioning what should be done with Gen X’ers.

    • Grey

      Grey says:
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      Haha

  3. The Theory says:
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    I drafted Brad Miller. So. My SS situation sucked all year.
    At least I drafted him in the last round, so I got proper value on my SS suckitude.

    • Grey

      Grey says:
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      Yup, I hear that

  4. JeF With 1 F says:
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    I traded Kluber for Dee Gordon early on in the season…pretty fair trade looking back, but looking at the mess that was SS this year i’d make that trade again….plus i won so why wouldn’t i make that trade again?

    • Grey

      Grey says:
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      Yeah, agreed… When I doubt go with the bat, and Gordon got the job done this year…

  5. Montezuma's Revenge... right now says:
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    here’s how weak this position is, you were almost exactly right about mercer (minus 15 runs higher you were), yet he was 10 spots higher than he to be projected preseason!

    • Grey

      Grey says:
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      Yup, this position is Death Valley…

  6. Swfcdan says:
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    No Xander even on the list? Are you high on him going forward as long as he stays SS eligable?

    Had a hot start and hot finish, but boy he was as cold as an eskimo with a eroded igloo and a runny nose in between.

    • ElBoss says:
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      @Swfcdan: yeah grey, you gotta list him just so you could talk about him going forward, even if he did drag my team down all year does he at least rank higher than prince fielder on the top 5000 list?

    • Grey

      Grey says:
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      Yeah, he’s young with a decent bat… I will like him more this year than going into last…

  7. Coolwhip

    Todd25 says:
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    “Is it me or does every shortstop have twenty less runs than I projected them for? (It’s not me.)”

    Its them, SS have a high fiber diet. (and the lowest avg lineup position)

    • Grey

      Grey says:
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      Haha

  8. Wake Up says:
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    The W quote makes its return!

    Hilarious!

    • Grey

      Grey says:
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      Ha, so good… I can’t ever not enjoy that…

      • Wake Up says:
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        @Grey: “You can fool with some kids sometimes…but you can’t fool every kid all the time…any way the point is, once you fool with too many kids…you’re gonna get arrested…and you’ll prolly end up in jail…unless you’re rich and famous…something to keep in mind, anyhow…” ~ Pete Townshend

        • Jason says:
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          @Wake Up: what exactly defines “too many”

          • Wake Up says:
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            @Jason: Ask Pete?

        • Grey

          Grey says:
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          …as Townshend prosecuted Gary Glitter.

  9. The JoGarza says:
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    All right, Grey, let’s talk keepers.

    12-team OBP H2H, league usually values SP pretty high.

    I can keep 5 going into next year, and below are the players I’m contemplating, with a couple of obvious keepers. I put their round value next to their names, as well as when they’ll be kept in certain year(s). Each year someone is kept, they inflate three rounds.

    Paul Goldschmidt (13th round in 2015….one of the obvious ones)
    Jorge Soler (23rd in ’15, 20th in ’16, 17th in ’17)(seems like one of the obvious ones)
    Kyle Seager (11th in ’15, 8th in ’16, 5th in ’17)
    Nolan Arenado (14th in ’15, 11th in ’16, 8th in ’17)
    Mookie Betts (21st in ’15, 18th in ’16, 15th in ’17)
    Corey Dickerson (22nd in ’15, 19th in ’16, 16th in ’17)

    Masahiro Tanaka (7th in ’15, 4th in ’14)
    Sonny Gray (20th in ’15, 17th in ’16)
    Phil Hughes(19th in ’15, 16th in ’16, 13th in ’17)
    Julio Teheran (5th in ’15)

    Usually I like to take 3-4 hitters and at least 1 SP, but I’m very tempted to take the bats on the top and choosing between Arenado/Seager. But it’s hard to pass up Sonny that low, and I’d love Tanaka in the 7th, but that’s a huge risk with his elbow.

    What do you think?

    • Wake Up says:
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      @The JoGarza: Au, Soler, Arenado, Dickerson, Gray

    • Grey

      Grey says:
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      What Wake said…

      • The JoGarza says:
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        @Grey:

        Thanks, guys!

        Few questions to pick your brains.

        1) What round do you think Mookie could be had? Really like the OBP he could bring to the table, and I don’t think a 15/25 season is out of the question.

        2) Is Coors the determining factor behind Arenado over Seager? Or is the round value from 11th to 14th just that great?

        3) Think C.Dickerson gets 600 PAs?

        • Grey

          Grey says:
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          Mookie won’t be drafted high unless you’re in a league with all Red Sox fans… Maybe around 150 overall 2) Yes and younger 3) Maybe 520

    • JeF With 1 F says:
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      @The JoGarza: Id probably keep Betts over Gray…but not over Grey

      • Grey

        Grey says:
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        Thanks, F!

  10. Jason says:
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    Sorry fellas, but i gotta vent…

    where the hell is this power output coming from MAt Carpenter? Where was this when I needed it Mat Crapenter? Seriously Mat Carpenter? Ihop e you drop an unopened sunflower seed around a really hungry MaAtt Adams and he knocks you off balance as he lounges for it, causing you to turn awkardly and strain your worthless-babe-ruthian-ass-when-it-doesn’t-matter-to-me-any-more-ASS!!!! i hate you Mat Carpenter.

    exhale…feels better now.

    • Grey

      Grey says:
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      He had power previously?

      • Jason says:
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        @Grey: Im not saying he did. I saying where was this output when I was in my final round? When we could have used it?

        This is just going to make people over-value again in 2015.

        • Grey

          Grey says:
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          Yeah, I hear ya

        • Crapshoot Kershaw says:
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          @Jason: everybody but you, hopefully.

  11. Sky

    Sky says:
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    Dannys Antana…you mispelled Antenna there AND forgot to give the possessive apostrophe. You’re slippin, Grey! No worries, though. Here’s a scroguard for all your efforts:

    • Grey

      Grey says:
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      Thanks! I actually left the Scroguard you sent me for my wedding present on a bus in Austin…

      • Sky

        Sky says:
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        Some hobo is in for a treat, then!

        • Grey

          Grey says:
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          I leave special goodies for hobos around the globe (that’s the chorus to my only top 40 hit)…

          • JeF With 1 F says:
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            @Grey: Mr. Knish

            • Grey

              Grey says:
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              That’s me!

  12. Is it 2015 yet? says:
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    I want to see one catcher (Posey), two shortstops (Tulo and The Constant), and 3 second basemen MAX for a total of 6 in the top 100 next year. Don’t you dare add a 7th!!!

    • Grey

      Grey says:
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      Cool

  13. Carnac says:
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    Ugh, these MI roundups are so tough to read. So much terribleness. Thankfully 3B is up next!

    • Grey

      Grey says:
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      Oh, yeah! There wasn’t even room for Middlebrooks, Asche and Moustakas in that one (granted, caused they sucked)….

      • Carnac says:
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        Aaaaaannd your #5 Most Valuable Third Baseman is….. Kyle *burp* Seager!

        • Grey

          Grey says:
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          Ha!

  14. Boycott Fantrax says:
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    Has this ever happened to anyone before?
    On a fantasy site. I was leading the league by 1 point on the final day. Before all the games ended I was named champion by a banner at the top of the page. I think it said “pending stat finalization on Oct. 5. So I thought I couldn’t be caught in the standings and a stat correction was the only way I could lose. Well, guess what happened. Another team ended up getting two wins that day and passed me by .5 points!!
    Are there any lawyers out there? Do you think I could get $ for punitive damages? I want 150,000!!

    • Grey

      Grey says:
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      You lost $150,000? Fantrax and all of those boutique sites are lousy…

      • Boycott Fantrax says:
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        @Grey: Agreed. The customer service guys are less than friendly. I asked for their supervisor’s email on 3 different occasions. All I got was crickets. Amateurs. Plain and simple. Everyone stay away from Fantrax.

        • Grey

          Grey says:
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          On Roto is the worst, FYI…

      • Boycott Fantrax says:
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        @Grey: The 150k was for punitive damages I suffered because of their ineptitude. I need a lawyer. I wonder if Mattlock would take the case?

        • Grey

          Grey says:
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          I’ll represent you… Can we try it to Judge Judy?

        • OT says:
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          @Boycott Fantrax: you’re looking for hedonic damages

  15. John says:
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    Hunter Pence or Yoenis Cespedes for the next 3 years?

    • Grey

      Grey says:
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      Yoenis

  16. gareth says:
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    Missed out on all the “top” shortstops in the rcl draft so took a flyer on Jonathan Villar late.

    It was soon after I was offered my very first trade in the rcl by Kid A – Alcides Escobar / john Axford for Villar. At the time I didn’t fancy Escobar much but needed a closer so I accepted. Turns out the afterthought (alcides) was the real jewel of that trade. I Kept him all year and got a real solid season from him, especially in the steals department.

    My next trade also involved a SS. Around the all star break I was getting sick of gyorko and kipnis and wanted an MI upgrade. I figured I’d sell high on Victor Martinez, who I assumed would fade in the second half. I traded Victor for Hanley Ramirez. Soon after it went through, a guy on the league commented that I got a steal. I thought I’d done well too.
    Again, the trade didn’t really transpire as I thought it would.

    Ah, shortstop. What a beguiling position.

    • Grey

      Grey says:
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      Yup, some trades seem obvious on the surface, then not so much later on…

    • A Wesley Snipes Life says:
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      @gareth: surprised he hasn’t shown up yet to talk about how he one upped you on that trade yet.

  17. Carnac says:
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    Just read a comment above… oh man, can you imagine working customer service for a fantasy gaming site? Oy.

    • Boycott Fantrax says:
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      @Carnac: LOL!!! Fantrax is a Canadian site. I thought they were always polite. A couple of F bombs and they lose it.

    • J-FOH says:
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      @Carnac: try being here in march

      • Carnac says:
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        Don’t remind me! I can’t believe I spent 30 minutes of my life engaging with a Matt Carpenter fanboy.

        • Wake Up says:
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          @Carnac: hahahahahahaha…..I remember that

          • Carnac says:
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            For 2015 I’m taking a step back, dumbing it down a little. “Hey guy, pretty tight case you’re making for Matt Carpenter scoring 145 runs! Now let’s talk probability. Do you have a coin handy?”

            • Grey

              Grey says:
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              Haha

        • Grey

          Grey says:
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          But he’ll get runs!

          • Carnac says:
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            “In 2015 Carpenter’s losing MI eligibility, but I’m looking forward to platooning him at CI with Joe Mauer.”

            • Grey

              Grey says:
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              You sound like a FSWA hall of famer!

        • J-FOH says:
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          @Carnac: the classics

    • Grey

      Grey says:
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      Wait, isn’t that what I do?

      • Carnac says:
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        Literally lmao over here. (what a mess)

        • Grey

          Grey says:
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          Haha

      • J-FOH says:
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        @Grey: we’re suppose to give off the vibe that we’re big

        • Grey

          Grey says:
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          You’re big, I’m petite…

          • J-FOH

            J-FOH says:
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            @Grey: not our bodies but the website. The boss is not the customer service department. *wink wink nudge nudge*

            • Grey

              Grey says:
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              Oh yeah! Um, direct all complaints to JayWrong and all compliments to Grey Albright.

              • J-FOH

                J-FOH says:
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                @Grey: can I get promoted to collections?

                • Grey

                  Grey says:
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                  Definitely! Could you collect from Matthew Berry all the brain cells he’s taken from his readers?

                  • J-FOH

                    J-FOH says:
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                    @Grey: there isn’t enough space to collect all those cells. But what I can do is start collecting your daquiris. Pay up mother f***ers!

                    • Grey

                      Grey says:
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                      Yeah! We want our shizz back!

                  • J-FOH

                    J-FOH says:
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                    @Grey: compliments are cute and all and sometimes the occasional reach around but damnit you need those f***ing daquiris.

                    • Grey

                      Grey says:
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                      Extra umbrellas!

                  • J-FOH

                    J-FOH says:
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                    @Grey: were going to get you a dispenser

                    • Grey

                      Grey says:
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                      How about one of those helmets with the two drinks on them?

                  • J-FOH says:
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                    @Grey: we’ll get you an intern to follow you around with two drinks

                    • Grey

                      Grey says:
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                      Perfect!

  18. gareth says:
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    So……punt shortstop and catcher is what I’m getting from these rankings so far.

    • Grey

      Grey says:
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      Yup, pretty much

  19. gareth says:
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    Next year I think I’ll try my luck in a money league. All that time and effort has to be for more than pride, right?

    Hey Grey,

    I technically made 4 comments yesterday so your “G4” reply was valid. However J-foh admonished me a while back for making 2 comments then saying G3!, saying that was only 2 comments and the G3! Didn’t count as a comment.

    I think I may just retire the G3! Altogether.

    • J-FOH says:
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      @gareth: c’mon kitty, you know want to G3, you define it yourself, it’s your thing.

      • de nachos says:
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        @J-FOH: it’s the original site catch phrase

      • gareth says:
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        @J-FOH:

        J-foh sho.

        You’re right. I’ve contacted my legal department and they said:

        The G3! “TM” and Gareth Kitty “TM” is a trademark of Gareth enterprises and all uses and likeness are copyrighted. Any use of this trademark should be authorized and the owner compensated accordingly. Any breach of this could constitute a lawsuit.

        • J-FOH says:
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          @gareth: with the subtly of breed variation you might lose one with the “likeness”

    • Grey

      Grey says:
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      Oh, no, retiring it because of some negative feedback? NBC had negative feedback on Seinfeld at first too!

      • gareth says:
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        @Grey: I agree. My avatar is a cat, so from the very beginning, a thick skin on razzball was of course mandatory.

        • Grey

          Grey says:
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          Yes, definitely

        • Crapshoot Kershaw says:
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          @gareth: plus yr name is easily confused with Garth, which it was, by many, some on purpose, for a long time.

  20. gareth says:
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    Wet Tail!

    (That’s original, right?)

    • JeF With 1 F says:
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      @gareth: You damn right

  21. BrewFreeOrDie says:
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    Howdy Grey,

    Gotta say, I’m jumping on the Royals bandwagon with you, they’re just a fun team to root for. Although as a guy who drafted Hosmer, the sudden power surge seems like like kind of a slap in the face. YOU GAVE ME 9 ALL YEAR, AND ALREADY HAVE 2 IN THE PLAYOFFS? Says my repressed, 2nd place finishing fantasy baseball self.

    The moral of the story here seems to be draft Desmond or punt SS, or I am reading this incorrectly? I’m high on Bogaerts next year and as an Alexei owner this year he’s restored some faith, but reading through the rest of these clowns I really want nothing to do with them. Or maybe Baez as a late flyer?

    J.J. Hardy is the new Yunel Escobar. As a fantasy baseballer, that is a very unsettling thought. Hope the rest of your day goes swimmingly, over the internet friend.

    Cheers,
    Brew

    • Grey

      Grey says:
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      There will be some late round fliers to look at for SS, too early to say yet… Hosmer is the best preseason/postseason player… It’s regular season that gives him cramps…

  22. gareth says:
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    G3!

    • Grey

      Grey says:
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      There ya go!

  23. Long Duck Dong says:
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    Where oh where is little Jean Segura in these rankings? Surely one down year can’t drop him out of the top 20, can it?

    • Grey

      Grey says:
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      Nope, prolly not…If you’re talking about next year

  24. Wake Up says:
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    May we have another Tuesday’s with Carnac?

    Uncle Carnac, could you read us a bedtime story? … Please, huh, please?

    • Grey

      Grey says:
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      Please Unkie Carnac!

    • Carnac says:
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      HA

    • Count de Monetball says:
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      @Wake Up: Alright, you kids get to bed, I’ll get the storybook/ Y’all tucked in? Yeah, here we go. Once upon a time, not long ago Where people wore pajamas and lived life slow,,,,

  25. booya says:
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    Would you trade Billy Hamilton, De Grom, and Hutchison for Longoria & Kemp in a 12 team H2H keeper league?

    I’m thinking Longo side…

    • Grey

      Grey says:
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      Longo side

  26. Ha! I like your grandfather’s saying about the stunods. I got that too. Substitute ciuccarelle or gavone, depending on his mood. As in, “Don’t go over their house anymore. They’re gavones!” Usually followed by a slap on the back of the head.

    • Grey

      Grey says:
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      Oh everyone was a gavone too, good call! He throws bread on the ground in a restaurant and says, “This isn’t Italian bread, you gavones!”

      • @Grey: Hah! I love it. Okay, last one. And, “Where you going with those veal cutlets? Did I say I was finished?” Then a puff of cigar smoke to the face.

        • Grey

          Grey says:
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          Haha… Come here, doll face, and tell me your specials.

  27. Hawk says:
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    In a 10 team, 5×5 full season roto, keep forever league would you protect Kolten Wong over Jose Reyes?

    • Grey

      Grey says:
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      Wong

  28. booya says:
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    Cargo or Machado next year?

    • Grey

      Grey says:
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      CarGo

      • J-FOH says:
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        @Grey: maybe he was asking who will miss more days? That’s what I read into.

        • Grey

          Grey says:
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          Ha!

  29. Aubrey Plaza's Pillow says:
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    manager getting cute, benching puig for ethier. can any of us even imagine doing that with our own lineups? nope. and it’s not about defense either, since puig is better at that too.

    • Grey

      Grey says:
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      Yeah, smells of desperation

      • Aubrey Plaza's Pillow says:
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        @Grey: should just put in carmart now. rosie can’t throw K’s again.

        • Grey

          Grey says:
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          Yup

  30. jef with 1 f says:
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    There is something wrong with me doing DK post season baseball…trying to fill a void

    • Grey

      Grey says:
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      Haha… You’re doing that?

      • jef with 1 f says:
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        @Grey: yea man..I’m bored..small money but it makes it interesting

        • Grey

          Grey says:
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          Who you got? Doing okay so far?

          • jef with 1 f says:
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            @Grey: eh..Kershaw..gio..Ellis, ishikawa,rendon, sandavol, Gordon, ethier, Harper, Taylor…paying for pitching is the way to go ..picking a lineup for one day is a complete crapshoot..even trying to play match ups

            • jef with 1 f says:
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              @jef with 1 f: stayed away from cards against Kershaw

              • Grey

                Grey says:
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                Was the smart move but what ya gonna do?

              • Mordacious Levator says:
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                @jef with 1 f: small sample but kershaw has gotten destroyed twice by STL in playoffs and had one bad pitch today, either way he doesn’t ever win. actually in general he’s been bad playoff pitcher (again very small sample size)

            • Grey

              Grey says:
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              Ah, gotcha…

              • jef with 1 f says:
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                @Grey: I’m finding out that playing in smaller leagues rather than large pools is the way to go..but I’d never put big money on daily baseball

                  • jef with 1 f says:
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                    @de nachos: Ha that’s me right now..cursing gio

                  • goodfold2 says:
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                    @de nachos: that’s a great movie. the nick coppola one is good too.

                • Grey

                  Grey says:
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                  Nah, makes no sense… Baseball is terrible to bet on the daily… Though I read Trading Bases about baseball betting and I recommend it highly…

                  • Militant Vegans says:
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                    @Grey: Great book!

                    • Grey

                      Grey says:
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                      Yup!

                  • jef with 1 f says:
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                    @Grey: Ha ha…and playoff baseball is even worse

                  • jef with 1 f says:
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                    @Grey: c’mon panda hit a dong!!!

                    • jef with 1 f says:
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                      @jef with 1 f: you mother fucker pussy ass no good bitch!!!…I want my $2 Damn it!!

                    • Grey

                      Grey says:
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                      Ha!

                    • Grey

                      Grey says:
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                      Haha

                    • JeF With 1 F says:
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                      @jef with 1 f: Guess whos $3 richer this morning….this guy

                    • Grey

                      Grey says:
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                      That’s my F! Now double that shizz!

                    • JeF With 1 F says:
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                      @jef with 1 f: Already been deposited into football for the weekend

                    • Grey

                      Grey says:
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                      Did you play during baseball regular season? Don’t have to say, but if you did, did you win?

                    • JeF With 1 F says:
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                      @jef with 1 f: I just started doing it at the end of the season to get a feel for it…im going to play more next year…I will be using hitter tron a lot to pick lineups and pay for the pitching. Ill never put anything big on it because to me baseball isnt really made for betting on guys for one day.

                    • Grey

                      Grey says:
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                      Gotcha… Yeah, agreed… You should check out that Trading Bases book I mentioned though if you’re into reading and shizz… Baseball definitely not made for betting, but it’s a quick read and makes sense…

                    • jef with 1 f says:
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                      @jef with 1 f: yea I’ll check it out

  31. Lopes says:
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    in a 10 team H2H keeper league– I am going to keep Goldy (losing 1st rd pick) CargoLite (3rd rd) Tulowitzki (4th rd) and Sale (5th rd). Should I keep Harper (2nd rd), Cole (9th rd) Dickerson(20th rd) or Danny Santana (20th rd) over any of the initial 4 guys?

    • jef with 1 f says:
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      @Lopes: I think your good…but shouldn’t we be calling cargo, cargo lite at this point

      • Lopes says:
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        @jef with 1 f: I’m for the change!

        • jef with 1 f says:
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          @Lopes: we need to put it to a vote…grey can approve the change and we can confuse the shit out of everyone next season

          • Lopes says:
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            @jef with 1 f: That’d be awesome. Let’s get the ball rolling on this

            • Montezuma's Revenge... right now says:
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              @Lopes: what about lost or broken cargo?

          • Grey

            Grey says:
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            Ha

    • Grey

      Grey says:
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      Dickerson over Sale

  32. Montezuma's Revenge... right now says:
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    i’ve been saying all year that WAS is crazy to not put barrett in high leverage spots, and then BAM! he’s worse than rosie at his worst with throwing strikes, even a wild pitch on an intentional walk pitch (which turned out to be accidentally a genius play, since there was no other way that dude was getting another out today), maybe a manager was actually right

    • Montezuma's Revenge... right now says:
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      @Montezuma’s Revenge… right now: i guess really though, anybody putting in thornton in meaningful tie game gets what they get. must win game they got all of soriano/clippard/storen/barrett to use and they go thornton.

      • Grey

        Grey says:
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        Yeah, makes no sense

    • Grey

      Grey says:
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      Yup

  33. Dubba_Dubs says:
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    Did I miss Xander Bogaerts on this list?

    • Grey

      Grey says:
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      Why would he be here?

      • Dubba_Dubs says:
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        @Grey: *Wonders in aimlessly* Yeah… I just re-read the title on this here post. So, I’ll ask another question. Off the top of your head, where do you see Bogaerts being ranked next year? Or is it too soon to give up those kind of goodies?

        • Grey

          Grey says:
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          I’d say around the top 10, but don’t hold me to it…

  34. Scott says:
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    Do you think 15/65/.280/15 is too high for Profar for next year?

    • Grey

      Grey says:
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      Not too high, around there

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