We’ve (Me’ve) have already gone over the top 20 catchers, top 20 1st basemen, top 20 2nd basemen and now it’s time for the top 20 shortstops for 2015 fantasy baseball.  It’s fun to see how many people read this in a way that makes them think this is for next year.  Let’s read it like them real quickly, “Top 20 shortstops…Tulo too low, Andrus too high, Lindor too low, how do I make a comment that illustrates my snideness about what an idiot I think Grey is without incurring the wrath of others so I can still ask a trade question in two months without any hard feelings?  Maybe I’ll just say a name with a question mark and that’ll be enough to inform Grey that I think he’s a moron, but vague enough to not set off others.”  Those people, who I’m sure aren’t reading this opening, are the true highlight of the offseason.  Here’s a comment for them to post, “Yunel???”  To recap, this final ranking is from our Fantasy Baseball Player Rater with my comments.  The Player Rater allows me to be impartial while looking at how I ranked them in the preseason.  Anyway, here’s the top 20 shortstops for 2015 fantasy baseball and how they compare to where I originally ranked them:

1. Manny Machado – Here’s what I said in the preseason, “He could easily put up a top 20 overall season.  Not just top ten 3rd basemen.  Not top 50 overall.  Top 20.  The only thing that stopped me from ranking him higher is he hasn’t come close to putting up numbers anywhere near those yet.”  And that’s me quoting me!  Looks like he figured out a way to get there… Like a baller!  Now I’ll never be able to draft The Manny again.  Lowercase great.  Preseason Rank #15 for 3rd basemen, 2015 Projections:  79/16/64/.285/7, Final Numbers: 102/35/86/.286/20

2. Xander Bogaerts – Because I squeezed Yahoo’s elgbility into this season-ending recap, Bogaerts got gypped out of the number one slot.  By the by, I’m told by the PC police that gypped is an offensive term.  Luckily, gypsies aren’t a well-organized bunch.  Any hoo!  It’s okay that Bogaerts got cheated out of the number one slot.  Know why?  Cause him being number one at a position in a year where he didn’t hit more than seven homers or steal more than ten bases is disgraceful and should never happen, I don’t care that he hit .320.  Hit .350, then I’ll care.  And this is coming from someone who likes Bogaerts!  Preseason Rank #7, 2015 Projections:  69/15/74/.253/7, Final Numbers:  84/7/81/.320/10

3. Matt Duffy – Went over him in the top 20 2nd basemen post.

4. Carlos Correa – In only 99 games, Correa hit 22 homers and stole 14 bases.  How much is that in 139 games?  32-ish homers and 20-ish steals?  Why do I care about 139 games?  Cause that was how many Trout played in when he hit 30 homers and stole 49 bases in his insane rookie year.  Correa may never have that many steals, but anyone that has watched him, he looks like a young A-Rod, so more steals could come.  What is clear is he would’ve hit for more power than a rookie Trout.  I mean, that I’m even comparing someone to Trout.  That I am even!  Fly, Icarlos, fly!  Preseason Unranked, Final Numbers: 52/22/68/.279/14

5. Brandon Crawford – I mentioned this the other day with Matt Carpenter.  Homers are usually one of the easier things to project, so, I guess what I’m saying is, how many cortisone shots did Crawford have?  Preseason Rank #22, 2015 Projections:  55/10/59/.247/5, Final Numbers: 65/21/84/.256/6

6. Troy Tulowitzki – The great park of Coors and then the great lineup of the Blue Jays looks like it’s hiding a lot of decline in Tulo’s stats.  Sure, he never plays a whole season, but since he never does, he actually has a large sample size — that’s what she said! — for only playing in a partial season.  This year, he played in 128 games and hit 17 homers.  In 2010, he played in 122 games and hit 27 homers.  In 2013, he played in 126 games and had 25 homers.  In 2014, 91 games and 21 homers.  I only got a B in the SATs that were graded on a number scale, but this doesn’t bode well for Tulo.  Preseason Rank #3, 2015 Projections:  79/24/88/.312/1, Final Numbers: 77/17/70/.280/1

7. Elvis Andrus – I didn’t want to keep saying the same thing in every blurb, “Shortstops suck,” but we’ve reached about the level where shortstops do indeed suck.  Andrus didn’t come close to my modest projections yet he ended up top seven overall.  That’s egregious, Jackie Chiles.  Preseason Rank #11, 2015 Projections:  81/5/49/.274/29, Final Numbers: 69/7/62/.258/25

8. Yunel Escobar – Speaking of scary terrible.  Yunel had nine homers and two steals and finished eighth overall for shortstops.  Eighth?!  And that’s with Machado listed, who didn’t even have shortstop eligibility for most of the year.  Preseason Rank #37, 2015 Projections:  50/6/54/.249/2, Final Numbers:  75/9/56/.314/2

9. Jhonny Peralta – Give you a pretty strong idea about shortstops, Peralta was on waivers in my 12-team league all the way through September.  Preseason Rank #17, 2015 Projections:  58/17/67/.250/3, Final Numbers: 64/17/71/.275/1

10. Ian Desmond – Compared to Heinously Ramirez, Desmond looks like an All-Star, but his 2nd half boosted him, so I’d argue Desmond was just as bad as Heinously because of this:  Desmond is doing awful, you need to drop him, but you drafted him so high, you don’t want to drop him.  Now it’s June and you need to start thinking about fantasy football because Desmond killed your season.  Then, when that person moved on to football, Desmond turned it around.  It was irrelevant at that point.  With Heinously, he did well in the first half, so you could’ve dropped him in August and still did okay if there was a shortstop available.  In the end, they both sucked.  Preseason Rank #1, 2015 Projections:  75/21/87/.251/22, Final Numbers: 69/19/62/.233/13

11. Jose Reyes – A guy that always relied on his legs for his value that always had leg injuries isn’t aging well?  Weird!  Preseason Rank #4, 2015 Projections:  91/8/46/.281/27, Final Numbers: 57/7/53/.274/24

12. Justin Turner – Went over him in the top 20 2nd basemen post.

13. Francisco Lindor – Since he only played 99 games, and only about 65 of them when he was good, it sorta illuminates how much more valuable he was on your team, if, ya know, you picked him up when I told you to for about a month straight.  Preseason Rank #28, 2015 Projections:  51/6/39/.271/22, Final Numbers:  50/12/51/.313/12

14. Jung-ho Kang – If he didn’t get lucky on balls hit into play (.344 BABIP), I would’ve nailed his projections, which I would’ve thought in the preseason was relatively unlikely since I didn’t know a gee-dee thing about him coming into this year.  Preseason Rank #21, 2015 Projections:  48/16/54/.242/3, Final Numbers: 60/15/58/.287/5

15. Ben Zobrist – Went over him in the top 20 2nd basemen post.

16. Asdrubal Cabrera – Went over him in the top 20 2nd basemen post.

17. Jean Segura – To give you an idea of what a blind spot I have for Segura, when I saw he ranked this low, I thought, “I wonder why.”  Earth to Grey, he’s ranked this low because he sucked.  Preseason Rank #9, 2015 Projections:  69/10/50/.272/35, Final Numbers:  57/6/50/.257/25

18. Yangervis Solarte – Here’s a guy that if you jumped out of DeLorean in March and told me Solarte’s final stats, I’d still draft a guy with upside like Wilmer Flores.  Preseason Unranked for shortstops, ranked 33rd for 2nd basemen, 2015 Projections:  64/8/44/.267/3, Final Numbers: 63/14/63/.270/1

19. Marcus Semien – Doesn’t seem so stupid now that you drafted this guy and then named your team, “Young, Dumb and Full Of Semien.”  Preseason Unranked for shortstops, ranked 24th for 2nd basemen, 2015 Projections:  66/13/61/.228/10, Final Numbers: 65/15/45/.257/11

20. Hanley Ramirez – Hey, if it’s not the schmohawk who ruined my NFBC team.  Is it illegal to dump an industrial-sized container of mayonnaise on someone and then lock them in a room with a hungry Sandoval?  Asking for a friend.  Preseason Rank #2, 2015 Projections:  72/20/84/.268/12, Final Numbers:  59/19/53/.249/6

 
  1. The Theory says:
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    Picked up Correa; won my league. Now he’s going to go way too high in drafts; might still pay that price.

    • Gonzo_The_Great says:
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      @The Theory: I’m going to be very intrigued to see how the rankings treat him come next season. Pretty easy to rattle off a list of guys who came up and hit bombs as rookies only to fall apart in Year 2, but damn Correa does look special.

      • Grey

        Grey says:
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        @Gonzo_The_Great: Agreed, on both counts…He could fail, but he sure looks special

      • GhostTownSteve says:
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        @Gonzo_The_Great:

        Late 1st or early 2nd in 12 teamers. He’ll rarely get to the back half of the 2nd. Will be a guy folks pair on the wheel at the end of the first a ton.

    • Grey

      Grey says:
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      @The Theory: Be surprised if he lasts past the 2nd round

  2. DrEasy says:
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    Yunel???

    • Ra'zbahl Al Ghul says:
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      @DrEasy: Yu Darvish???

    • Baezaworldseries says:
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      @DrEasy: #8

  3. Rabbit says:
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    Watch out! Now you have those ethnic nomadic Romanians after you. You should always take heed of the PC police. Look what they did to Cher after “Gypsies, Tramps and Thieves.”

    • Grey

      Grey says:
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      @Rabbit: Is that what happened to Cher’s career?

  4. Your opening is hysterical. Cust kayin’.

  5. Willie, Mickey and the Duke says:
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    Did Alcides Escobar make the top 50?

  6. Mike says:
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    looking forward, Correa vs Bogaerts, who would be the better keeper?

    • Ra'zbahl Al Ghul says:
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      @Mike: Correa

    • Nate says:
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      @Mike: Correa, and I’m not sure it’s all that close.

    • Grey

      Grey says:
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      @Mike: Correa, not close

  7. Clyde Prompto says:
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    Oh wow, SS was even bleaker than I thought. I propose doing away with specific positions for fantasy baseball, and only separating players into infielders and outfielders.

      • Clyde Prompto says:
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        @Grey: True, but if it saves me from the pain of owning Andrus for an entire season again I’m willing to try something radical. HE HURT ME, GREY!

        • Grey

          Grey says:
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          He was nothing special, crazy how high Andrus ended up here

  8. Alcibiades Escobar says:
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    Thanks for doing these write-ups Grey. They soften the inevitable sadness of the end of the fantasy season.

    I like Bogaerts too, but his performances have varied so much that I kind of forget what he was projected as coming up. Do you expect his power to increase significantly in the next few years, possibly to the detriment of his average? Any ballpark guesses what that might look like?

    Looking forward to the rest of the recaps.

    • Grey

      Grey says:
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      @Alcibiades Escobar: They help me ease out and ease back in too, so no worries… Bogaerts should be a 20/20 guy with a good average, but so far, we’ve only seen the average…

      • Alcibiades Escobar says:
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        Thanks Grey. That’s pretty good. I’ll have to find a spot for him as a keeper.

        • Grey

          Grey says:
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          Yeah, for sure

  9. Gonzo_The_Great says:
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    Ugh Desmond. Just kill me now. I was so excited that I managed to nab him with the last pick of the first round in my primary league this year (it’s a keeper where the top 30-40 players tend to be off the board before the draft starts).

    Not fantasy related, but which form of ritual suicide do you think you employ if you turned down a huge contract before the season started and then went on to play one of the worst seasons of your career? Asking for a friend.

    • Grey

      Grey says:
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      @Gonzo_The_Great: That sucks, hate when I’m pumped about a player and they disappoint so poorly…Sandoval comes to mind… Yeah, Desmond got what he deserved with the contract, and the Mets will get what they deserve when they sign him

    • Alcibiades Escobar says:
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      How about weighing yourself down and jumping overboard? That would symbolize your declining value, making it not only honorable but also ironic.

      • Grey

        Grey says:
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        Ha

  10. Big Al says:
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    Great Intro. Laughter definitely comforts me after the worst season of my ‘career’. Not sure how that happens after 10 years of this, since I have acquired so much knowledge and skill. Oh well, if I learn more from failure than success, I’ll be a freakin’ genius for next year! Looking forward to January Grey.

    • Grey

      Grey says:
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      Shizz happens, don’t sweat it

  11. J-FOH says:
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    I call him Hanley “I told you all to stay away from that mentail whackjob” Ramirez…..and at the time you said I was just a bitter Dodger fan. C’mon Grey you should know I’m above that kind of spite for fantasy analysis……I wouldn’t own that worthless lolly gagger Puig with your team.

    • Grey

      Grey says:
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      I do remember you disliking Hanley…Looked okay the 1st half, then the wheels totally fell off…

      • J-FOH says:
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        @Grey: and by first half you mean April. I can’t get behind a player that literally takes dayssssssss off because he doesn’t feel like playing. Which is not to be confused with someone having a bad day or letting life get in the way of doing his JOB. It’s okay. I owned him nowhere and only won one league. My hate for him didn’t lead to success. Just an empty told you so moment that I’ll keep in a shoebox under my bed.

        • Grey

          Grey says:
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          Yeah, I hear ya…I only drafted him in one league — NFBC — because I liked his eligibility in a league where you’re stuck if injuries hit

          • J-FOH says:
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            @Grey: drafting Hanley is like getting back with a girl that repeatedly cheats on you but is good in the sack. Yeah it’s great when she is doing her thing with you but it sucks when she disappears off to Vegas with Troy and his new convertible. I hate you Troy!

            • Grey

              Grey says:
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              Troy sucks!

              • J-FOH says:
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                @Grey: him and his stupid fancy ray bans and sweater over the shoulder

                • Grey

                  Grey says:
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                  I can’t believe he got the new Pontiac Solstice!

                  • J-FOH says:
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                    @Grey: with white interior!

                    • Grey

                      Grey says:
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                      I do like his Dockers though, damn, he’s got style!

                    • J-FOH says:
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                      get it together man, chicks want a tough guy, try some dickies or a Ben Davis shirt

        • Cram It says:
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          @J-FOH: Point to you. Negated by your Bogaerts hatred.

          • Grey

            Grey says:
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            Ha!

          • J-FOH says:
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            @Cram It: I hate Boring Ass Bogey

    • GhostTownSteve says:
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      @J-FOH:

      He got Magoo and I too

      • J-FOH says:
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        @GhostTownSteve: I argued with him a lot about Hanley. He also wrote me off as a jaded dodger fan. At times I may be an emotionally charged person but when it comes to players I have no teams. I also like to make observations about the psychology and effort of the player. The same could of been said about Manny, but the difference is he would take a day or two off and Hanley will take off a month….or 5.

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          @J-FOH:

          There’s also the fact that Manny was juiced to the gills.

          • J-FOH says:
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            @GhostTownSteve: but it was OK because everyone else was doing it

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    Some stuff not to to not like about Xander. Very high BABIP, low ISO, lots of ground balls, weakish hard hit rate (between Wong and Prado….side bar that’s the kind of decision a gay couple on holiday in Madrid needs to make).

    Besides the purtridity of SS, what makes you optimistic about Bogaerts?

    • Grey

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      HA! K-rate finally found its way back to minor league levels, HR/FB crazy low, exit velocity kept rising as season went on, he was always considered a 20-homer guy in the minors that needed to develop, middle of the order hitter on a solid offense, shortstops suck so tallest member of Altuve family syndrome…

    • J-FOH says:
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      @GhostTownSteve: hahaha. I came to same place on bogey too.

  13. Mike

    Mike says:
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    you spelled 2016 wrong

    • Cram It says:
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      @Mike: And “we’ve have”.

    • Grey

      Grey says:
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      Damn! Mea culpa

  14. Cram It says:
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    I like this post season wrap-up time. Less people being all selfish about their team needs and more actual baseball/smack talk. I mean, we could’ve talked about me for the week, but arguing with Jack is the comfort zone.

    P.S. I didn’t know Best Buy had sex toys. So….thanks for the sex toys Grey!

    • Grey

      Grey says:
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      It’s the only reason to go to Best Buy!

    • MattTruss

      MattTruss says:
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      It’s true, the off-season is so much better around here. For example, I can actually get through an entire days comments without wanting to jab a fork into my eye.

      • J-FOH says:
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        @MattTruss: try a sprork, it doesnt go as deep and allows you to still check your lineups

      • Grey

        Grey says:
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        HA, try answering them!

        • Cram It says:
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          @Grey: It’s worse reading them whilst trying not to pop a vein.

          • Grey

            Grey says:
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            “Should I drop Arenado? He’s 0 for his last 10.”

            • J-FOH says:
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              @Grey: top players I got grief over this year in the top 100, Betts, Braun, and Rizzo…yeah those guys sucked

              • Grey

                Grey says:
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                Yeah, Braun was kinda lame

                • J-FOH says:
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                  @Grey: kinda a lamely awesome!

                  • Grey

                    Grey says:
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                    The anklet bracelet too, how does he do it?!

              • A Wesley Snipes Life says:
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                @J-FOH: just in case we forgot how smart you were to high rank braun during his first 26 days when he actually did suck.

            • Cram It says:
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              @Grey: I still want to punch that guy (Chucky?) who had to point out everyday how overrated and sucky Rizzo and Bryant were when they were going through a mutual funk for like 2 or 3 weeks.

              • Grey

                Grey says:
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                HA, you should’ve

              • J-FOH says:
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                @Cram It: we need to get you on the payroll to do in home “commenter relations” work

          • J-FOH says:
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            @Cram It: My vein still hasn’t gone back into my neck

      • Cram It says:
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        @MattTruss: Exactly, low stress reading!

  15. James says:
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    The only part that buggers me is that I traded Arenado and Trea Turner for Correa (and actually gave up a few other smaller pieces too) before Machado got SS eligibility this season. the worst kicker, he will have SS eligibility next season too (at least in yahoo), and has proven that there is chance they keep sliding him over there enough to keep 3b and SS eligility. I do not remember the last 1st round talent to have dual positions that were both valuable (who cares if you also have 1b or OF…. we all played halney at ss, Posey at C, and mookie at 2nd)

    On the plus side, I added Gleyber Torres to my minor league roster out of that move (no idea how in a 12 team dynasty with 10 minor league slots, Torres was unowned)

    The plus plus side is that it s a dynasty league, so I will have Machado, Correa, Harper and Buxton for as long as I want. Too bad my “ace” is either Danny Salazar or Shelby Miller- I really need pitching on that team.

    • Grey

      Grey says:
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      That sounds like #firstplaceteamproblems… You did get Correa, so not much sympathy…

      • J-FOH says:
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        @Grey: #humblebrag?

        • Grey

          Grey says:
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          For who?

          • J-FOH says:
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            @Grey: #firstplaceproblemsguy

    • A Wesley Snipes Life says:
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      @James: it appears you got what you wanted in that trade, what is the down side? won’t machado still count as 3B next year?

  16. Scott says:
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    “LOL?!?”

    • Grey

      Grey says:
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      Ha!

  17. Scott says:
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    MIs are like Tight Ends. Unless you get one of the top 2 options, you might as well stream.

    • GhostTownSteve says:
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      @Scott:

      Unless you play in a 15 team weekly changes league with a deep bench

    • Grey

      Grey says:
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      I don’t know the analogy, but I get the gist and it’s not too far off

      • J-FOH says:
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        @Grey: I actually enjoy the fight to find the gem or the right stream combo, if our draft was perfect this wouldn’t be any fun…except the winning, but you get my point

        • Grey

          Grey says:
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          No one’s draft is perfect, though mine in RCL was close

          • J-FOH says:
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            @Grey: you still had to build a bullpen, which BTW is fun, and streamed, which I know you like.

            • Grey

              Grey says:
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              I did it better than you, so yeah

              • J-FOH says:
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                @Grey: yes you did and you will bring that up every chance you get, until next year when I beat you and I can show you how to win with class

                • Grey

                  Grey says:
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                  Show me a good winner and I’ll show you someone who doesn’t know how to gloat

                  • J-FOH says:
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                    @Grey: actually being cool or quiet really messes with them.

                    this reminds me of a funny story, or what could of turned into a really bad story. I got invited by my boss and some of the bartenders at my old job to go play some pick up basketball at the park (I was 20) There was always a group there that would dominate everyone. They always held the court. Well, unbeknownst to them, I was pretty good at basketball and I had a crazy good outside shot. Long story short, the “brothas” that we played lost because they kept letting me drift outside and I kept knocking down the shot. So we won and they were pissed as all high hell, well my smart ass said, “Okay, who’s next?”….yeah that didn’t go over to well and next thing I know I got a couple angry black men in my face thinking I was punking them….okay this is off season rambling. Time to nap. I’m getting tattooed later

                    • Grey

                      Grey says:
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                      You should get tattoo across your chest “Troylife”

                    • J-FOH

                      J-FOH says:
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                      well I was going to get Razzlife across the top of my stomach with a skull underneath sporting a mustache

                    • Grey

                      Grey says:
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                      That works too

                    • J-FOH

                      J-FOH says:
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                      I thought you wouldn’t mind that. I just cant decide if the skull should be wearing a beanie or a flat bill

                    • Grey

                      Grey says:
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                      Beanie, for sure

                    • J-FOH

                      J-FOH says:
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                      that was a trick question, always beanie

                    • Grey

                      Grey says:
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                      True

                  • A Wesley Snipes Life says:
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                    @Grey: i think his gloating will be just fine, he’s still reminding us about how he held up Braun when people were wanting to drop him after about almost a month of crap.

    • Fungazi says:
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      @Scott: Except you already have Catchers, 2B and RPs as the tight ends of baseball so pretty much you end up streaming half your team.

  18. ScreechOwl says:
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    I’m a little shocked Bogaerts ended up that high. He seemed like a decent fill-in while I waited for Correa to get called up, but once it became clear that Correa was the newer, drug-free version of A-Rod, I…

    1. Xander faster than Cordelia did in one of the early season of Buffy.

    2. Dropped Bogaerts like Ingrid Bergman at the end of Casablanca.

    3. I’m sure Xander Bogaerts has a middle name that has an associated pop culture refernce. It’s… Jan? Geez, my ignrance of the Brady Bunch is going to become obvious to all now. I don’t even know which one was Jan Brady. Anyone else know? Did she ever break up with anyone on that show? I’m asking for a friend (I’m my own best friend).

    • Grey

      Grey says:
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      1. Spoiler! 2. HA 3. Jan was the ugly duckling middle child, middle of Marcia and Cindy

      • nick the dick says:
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        @Grey: Dropped him like George Glass

        • Grey

          Grey says:
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          Snap! Loved the first episode of Fargo, btw…Like love love

          • nick the dick says:
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            @Grey: Oh man yes, so so good. I’m wide open like i’m pokin a fallopian…I didn’t realize it was a prequel until I started watching!

            • Grey

              Grey says:
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              Ah, yeah, I had heard that previously… Cougs also has a way with spoilers even though I ask her repeatedly not to say anything…

              • nick the dick says:
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                @Grey: Yeah I was like hooooold up, Det. Solverson! I like that they’re connected, especially cuz now I don’t have to wait for my wife to watch it since she didn’t watch the whole first season yet

                • Grey

                  Grey says:
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                  It’s too bad we don’t live closer, your wife can watch with Cougs and we can watch together… They’d be on the first season of Sopranos be like WHUT?!

                  • nick the dick says:
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                    @Grey: Haha…”Hey babe, i’m going over to Grey’s to watch the new Fargo.” “Okay, take your time. Cougs is coming over to start the second season of Lost anyways.”

                    • Grey

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                      Totes… Only with more random spoilers…Cougs be like, “I don’t watch the Americans but I know you do, so is it surprising so-and-so is no longer on the show?” I be like, “Why would you tell me she’s gone?!”

                  • nick the dick says:
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                    @Grey: I could see it seems that way, but far from the truth. I’ve seen em all and my Friends trivia is on par with my supreme Seinfeld knowledge, as odd as that may be.

                    • Grey

                      Grey says:
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                      Yeah, that’s pretty odd… You’re an enigma wrapped in a Duda looking package…

                  • nick the dick says:
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                    @Grey: Hey hey now! I ain’t no blonde flesh colored having beard ass mudda sucka! I’m more Arrietaish than anything. Plus I mash lefties

                    • Grey

                      Grey says:
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                      Haha… On the for reals, who we got tonight? Mets or Dodgers? Does a Yankee fan automatically go “whoever plays the Mets?”

                  • nick the dick says:
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                    @Grey: If I had to bet it, i’d say Mets but yeah I want the Dodgers to move on and promptly lose to the Cubs. I don’t want no celebratin’ in New York. And who doesn’t love to see mopey Met fans?! DeGrom with Harvey and Synder available is a tough task.

                    • Grey

                      Grey says:
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                      Yeah, and Dodgers offense doesn’t scare me much as it is

                    • Grey

                      Grey says:
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                      As the Dodgers rally for runs, of course

                  • nick the dick says:
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                    @Grey: Yeah they’ve been terrible for a while now, but wow, getting to lowercase Grom early

                    • Grey

                      Grey says:
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                      My autocorrect wants to call him deform, maybe it’s seen his hair

                  • nick the dick says:
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                    @Grey: HA battle of the girlie locks

                    • Grey

                      Grey says:
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                      Haha

                  • nick the dick says:
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                    @Grey: My autocorrect wants to capitalize his D like a normal person

                    • Grey

                      Grey says:
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                      My autocorrect wants to give him a barrette

  19. Swfcdan says:
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    Haven’t read any posts since before the end of the reg season so have all the postseason recap goodness to be getting on with, along with the great postseason games atm.

    ITS CHRISTMAS COME EARLY FOR ME!

    • Grey

      Grey says:
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      Hey, there you are!

  20. Swfcdan says:
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    Machado and Correa could be on a completely different SS stratosphere next year….crazy.

    • Swfcdan says:
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      @Swfcdan: And Lindor could quite easily be 3rd…crazier.

    • Grey

      Grey says:
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      Yup

  21. Pouss-Pouss says:
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    Hanley Ramirez is dead to me. I could keep him as an 11th rounder next season, and I’m not even slightly considering it.

    • Grey

      Grey says:
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      Ha, I hear ya

  22. SteveNZ says:
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    I grabbed Correa in the ol’ H2H. Couldn’t drag me into the playoffs though. Still trying to figure out how with Donaldson, C Davis, CarGo, along with some Sano and second half Choo I couldn’t make the top 6…

    • SteveNZ says:
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      @SteveNZ: In an OBP league, what’s more.

    • Grey

      Grey says:
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      Can’t believe you missed the playoffs

      • SteveNZ says:
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        @Grey: I was pretty comfortably in them with a couple of weeks to go then in the second-last week of the regular season, I got hammered 10-1 despite having a huge offensive week. And I was on the back foot after that…

        • Grey

          Grey says:
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          Ah, gotcha… Well, makes you hungrier!

          • SteveNZ says:
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            @Grey: Yeah, not so sure about that. Think the fire might be dimming a bit to use a completely overblown metaphor.

            Had a few more distractions this year too…

            • Grey

              Grey says:
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              Did you find yourself looking at your H2H team and listening to Candle in the Wind?

              • SteveNZ says:
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                @Grey: I love me some early Elton John, but no.

                Was more a resigned shake of the head.

                • Grey

                  Grey says:
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                  Ha

  23. Det. John Kimble says:
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    Just because I want to talk fantasy baseball (*itches neck in cliche crack head behaviour)…..keeper question.

    Get to keep four, in $260 auction league. Standard offensive categories + Hits and BB.

    Stanton $33
    Altuve $25
    Jose Abreu $12
    Arenado $11
    Bogaerts $7
    Rendon $11

    • Grey

      Grey says:
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      Stanton $33
      Altuve $25
      Jose Abreu $12
      Arenado $11

  24. GhostTownSteve says:
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    Gave this to Magoo. Meaningless from a fantasy perspective. The gap in defensive value between Kevin Keirmaier (#1) and Andrelton Simmons (#2) was the same as the gap between Simmons and the 26th most valuable defensive player.

    • Grey

      Grey says:
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      Wow, that’s seriously insane

    • Grey

      Grey says:
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      That’s the kind of stat that makes me want to double check it it’s so crazy

    • MattTruss

      MattTruss says:
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      Is that looking at defensive runs saved? That’s crazycakes, Andrelton is pretty incredible. I honestly don’t watch a ton of Rays games though, but damn, that’s nuts, makes me want to watch him more.

      • GhostTownSteve says:
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        @MattTruss:

        It’s using the defensive component of Fangraphs WAR calculation.

        Kiermaier 23.0
        Simmons 17.9

        Kiermaier 41 defensive runs saved was 16 better than the next best by that metric.

        He also busted over 100 mph on throws from the outfield per stat cast.

  25. GhostTownSteve says:
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    I also want to echo the sentiment above. Off season Razz comment threads are the bestest.

    • J-FOH says:
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      @GhostTownSteve: this is like when the bar closes and the regulars hold court

    • Grey

      Grey says:
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      Agreed!

  26. J-FOH

    J-FOH says:
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    Is fantasy baseball the only place you can say, “I like Kike”?

    • Grey

      Grey says:
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      And in a shtetl

      • J-FOH

        J-FOH says:
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        @Grey: wow, you knew that, you really are jewish

        • Grey

          Grey says:
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          Grammy Hall would say he’s a real Jew

          • J-FOH

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            @Grey: HA!

  27. omrider says:
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    Saved the best for last. LOL.

    • Grey

      Grey says:
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      Ha

  28. seph meier says:
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    These ss make me want to keep a catcher

    • Grey

      Grey says:
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      Haha

  29. J-FOH

    J-FOH says:
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    Burned by the shift….hilarious

    • Happy Vegans says:
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      @J-FOH: Smart play by Murphy.

      • J-FOH

        J-FOH says:
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        @Happy Vegans: what up HV, Murphy is their MVP….if they win

        • Happy Vegans says:
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          @J-FOH: Mr. FOH! How are you? Sorry to be so MIA… just busy with work. Holiday season, ya know. Learning DK hockey. blah… blah… blah…

          Agreed, Murph’s been great! Also, all the writers here have been great this year too!

        • Happy Vegans says:
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          @J-FOH: and… ca-ching!

    • Happy Vegans says:
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      @J-FOH: Wright almost nudged him off the bag? HA!

  30. say it with me now, boDEga says:
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    Hey Grey,
    Got some big decisions in my keeper league and hoping you might be able to help. I have the makings of a dynasty, Keeping Trout, Bryant, and Torarenado. But still have one more keeper. I unfortunately missed on the Correa train, (dropped him a week before his call up, for pitching, did not think he was getting the call up til a bit later in the season! DOH!!!) otherwise I wouldn’t be having this conversation, but I did pick up Seager, and Russell. Which of these two do you see as a better player going forward? I could also keep Soler, Myers, Polanco, Rendon, K Davis, or Pederson, but I just think that with the position scarcity of SS and possibly 2B (rendon) would be a better way to use my resources. Thoughts?

    • Grey

      Grey says:
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      Seager

  31. J-FOH

    J-FOH says:
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    deGrom has got some moxie. 2 runs ot of 12 runners in scoring position. Thats ridiculous, and he hasnt thrown well until he needs to. Amazing

    • Grey

      Grey says:
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      Noah looked nasty too

      • Happy Vegans says:
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        @Grey: Is that Larry King front row behind the plate mowing a dog?

      • J-FOH

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        @Grey: filthy, I think he may be the best of the bunch when its all said and done in NY.

        Not making an excuse, but this is classic mattingly, get guys in scoring position and can’t push them home….and what was with that Either and Mattingly fight?

        • Happy Vegans says:
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          @J-FOH: Yep. that kiki hernandez at bat was horrible… trying to win it with one swing instead of moving the runner along.

  32. SteveNZ says:
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    According to Gameday, Syndergaard is touching 99-100 with his sinker. Yikes.

    • Grey

      Grey says:
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      Yeah, he looked like he was

      • SteveNZ says:
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        @Grey: I might be missing something, but for all the $$$ spent by the Dodgers, you look at their lineup and you have to wonder where the money went.

        Kershaw and Greinke I guess.

        • J-FOH

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          @SteveNZ: about 40% of it is on other teams

        • FrankGrimes says:
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          @SteveNZ:
          outta all the playoff contenders
          they play the least like a team

          • J-FOH

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            @FrankGrimes: Mattingly is such a pussy and they play like pussies….and not the good kind

            • FrankGrimes says:
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              @J-FOH:
              for once we agree

              • J-FOH says:
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                @FrankGrimes: Ive been saying that all year, since I have two horses in the race, I dont care, I just hope he gets fired

  33. Wilson says:
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    Hi Grey, who do you think to win the series?

    1. TOR or KC ?
    2. NYM or CHC ?

    Thanks

  34. JashFath

    JashFath says:
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    I know this was simply the end-of-year rankings from the automatically-generated Razzball Razzkings, but I am honestly shocked Wilmer Flores didn’t make it. 16 HR from the shortstop position is gold Jerry, gold. I guess the Hitter-Tron (or whoever generates the rankings) considers crying a big downgrade.

    • Grey

      Grey says:
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      Likely due to his lacking in counting stats… 16 HRs and 75 runs and 75 RBIs would’ve got him in here

  35. selassie says:
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    Hola Grey, long time reader first time poster. Player Rater is a bit mucked up on my laptop, how much did Suarez miss the top 20 by? Would you put him top 5 SS next year? I gotta think Cozart is moving positions or moving on.

    • Grey

      Grey says:
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      You need to resort for now…Click on the dollar sign in the top

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