Imagine a world without Greg Holland.  Okay, got it… because it’s here… sorta.  There would be no tulip or windmill jokes and Wade Davis would basically be the freaking mac.  I was interested to see what his numbers really were, since he basically became a full time reliever towards the end of the 2013 season, and up to this date thus far in the season. So over the 89 innings of relief work, he has allowed 42 hits, 9 ER, and K/BB rate of 124/28.  I don’t curse very often, but holy sh*t.  The best thing about him is that he doesn’t have to be all-pressured to be the closer if he doesn’t want to.  Kinda like the cool kids in school, they sometime bring books to class or they just punch a juke box and say words that word normally sound like a euphemism for IBS.  I am by no means wishing Greg an injury-riddled year because, irregardless, Wade is going to do what he do.  He is far and away the most important reliever in baseball, argue that if you want… you will lose, but it’s fun to argue.  Enjoy the week’s closer updates and rankings…

  • What is wrong with Mark Melancon? That seems to be a popular question I am fielding around the way.  His velocity is down and his release point is way off.  He has notoriously, throughout his career, been a slow starter, but the drop in velocity and pitch technique is a real worry sign.  He just got the proverbial pat on the back from his skipper, which is basically a kiss of death.  If he gets removed, I see it as anyone’s game there with Tony Watson, Jared Hughes and the second best name ever Arquimedes Caminero all looking like possibilities in a rotating situation.  For those inquiring, Rusty Kuntz is the first all-time name.
  • My preseason love for Brad Boxberger has not disappointed.  The unfortunate thing for that is every prom king has to give his crown back, hence the freeze tag still.  He doesn’t deserve it, but with McGee in rehab and his return prolly a week to 10 days away, it is time to start hoping for saves now and looking elsewhere for quantity later.  He is not a drop though as he’s still a ratio booster and is that great first BP arm that you use on a daily basis.
  • It is becoming a Dick Gregory type buffet at the salad department.  As the group is down to two members for the moment.
  • Happy trails Joe Nathan.  Anyone wanna put a number on his career saves from this point on?  10 O/U?
  • I know it’s extremely early, but is anyone else noticing that the Nationals bullpen is pretty meh?  With extra emphasis on mmmm and a little side eye towards eh.  They lead the league in blown saves.  in fact they have more blown saves then both New York teams, STL, Tampa, Texas, White Sox, Philly, Milwaukee and the Giants combined.  I am not saying there is a panic session going down at the Capitol Grill, but for a team that has the markings of contender it’s a lot a sloppy.

 

$12 Salads

You know that restaurant your girlfriend/wife/what-have-you likes to go to that charges, like, $12 for a salad? Every time you go there, you have a thoroughly solid meal. No complaints, except you just paid $12 for a salad when you could’ve went to McDonald’s and stuffed you and your woman for ten schmools and had $2 in quarters left over to make the hotel bed vibrate. These closers are $12 salads.

1. Craig Kimbrel – (Joaquin Benoit, Dale Thayer)

2. Aroldis Chapman – (Jumbo Diaz, Tony Cingrani)

 

Donkeycorns

Imagine you’re following a donkey, who’s wearing a wool cap, through a desert for 1700 miles. Why are you following a donkey? Because he promises you something wonderful and you just need to trust him. Does the donkey talk? Yes. Yes, he does talk. So when you and the donkey in the wool cap arrive at his destination, he removes the wool cap to reveal a horn. The donkey is a unicorn and his gift to you for your trust is saves. These closers are Donkeycorns.

3. David Robertson – (Jake Petricka, Zach Putnam, Zach Duke)

4. Andrew Miller – (Dellin BetancesDavid Carpenter)

5. Trevor Rosenthal -(Jordan Walden, Matt Belisle)

6. Huston Street – (Joe Smith, Cam Bedrosian)

7. Jonathan Papelbon – (Ken Giles, Jake Diekman)

8. Fernando Rodney – (Danny Farquhar, Carson Smith)

9. Drew Storen – (Aaron Barrett, Blake Treinen)

10. Zach Britton – (Darren O’Day, Tommy Hunter)

11. Glen Perkins – (Casey Fien, Tim Stauffer)

12. Francisco Rodriguez, (Jonathan Broxton, Will Smith)

13. Koji Uehara – (Edward Mujica, Junichi Tazawa)

14. Hector Rondon – (Pedro StropJason Motte)

15. Cody Allen -(Bryan Shaw, Scott Atchison)

16. Wade Davis– (Kelvin Herrera, Ryan Madson, Greg Holland (INJ)

17. Jeurys Familia(Carlos Torres, Alex Torres, Bobby Parnell (INJ))

 

Employed

These guys are the men that make the save market go round.  They punch in, punch out.  Have the job, no real threat to speak of, and are basically just there to collect great benny’s so they can take care of their crippled brother.  Who is only really crippled because he is scared of the sun.

18. Mark Melancon -(Tony Watson, Jared Hughes, Arquimedes Caminero)

19. Joakim Soria – (Al Alburquerque, Ian Krol, Joba Chamberlain)

20. Santiago Casilla – (Sergio Romo, Jean Machi)

21.  Steve Cishek – (Mike DunnA.J. Ramos,)

22. Luke Gregerson – (Chad Qualls, Pat Neshek)

23. Miguel Castro – (Brett Cecil, Roberto OsunaAaron Loup )

24. Jason Grilli – (Jim Johnson, Luis Avilan, Brandon Cunniff)

25. Adam Ottavino – (Boone Logan, John AxfordRafael Betancourt)

26. Neftali Feliz – (Shawn Tolleson, Tanner ScheppersKeone Kela)

27. Addison Reed – (Brad Ziegler, Evan Marshall)

 

Brain Freezes

I’m going on a picnic and I’m bringing apples, bananas and Carlos Marmol– Wait, he just gave up 12 earned runs and hit Castro in the head with a pick-off throw. Brain freeze! Make it stop! Use the following closers at your own risk. 

28. Brad Boxberger – (Jake McGeeKevin Jepsen, Ernesto Frieri)

29. Tyler Clippard – (Dan Otero, Fernando Abad)

30. Joel Peralta – (Chris Hatcher, J.P. Howell, Yimi Garcia)

 

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Cheese Eating Surrender Monkey
Cheese Eating Surrender Monkey
7 years ago

quackenbush over putnam in dynasty? holds/K per 9, K to BB

Cheese Eating Surrender Monkey
Cheese Eating Surrender Monkey
Reply to  Cheese Eating Surrender Monkey
7 years ago

@Cheese Eating Surrender Monkey: clearly putnam has more short term value being listed (and used yesterday, went just after k-rob in the 10th, petricka went later) as 8th inning man for now in depth charts.

JD101
JD101
7 years ago

Is there something wrong with Octavvio since Axford has the last two saves? Is Axford a viable options now that he’s been reinstated?

Pouss-Pouss
Pouss-Pouss
7 years ago

Love your work. Who do you like best in a holds league: Giles, Strop, Tazawa?

burningbridges247
burningbridges247
7 years ago

Aight, Smokes- I am in a saves/holds league. 10 team. Should I drop Castro for either Tolleson or Ziegler? Castro is straight up FILTHY, but I think he doesn’t even know where that ball is going sometimes, and Tolleson and Ziegler look like some tasty ratio/holds guys that could possibly close. Decisions, decisions! Keep up the awesome work. Thanks!

sniff test
sniff test
7 years ago

Now that Despaigne is in the bull pen…do you view him as a candidate to get holds in the SP slot? I currently have Cingriani as my holdgetterfromtheSPspot person but he hasn’t pitched in awhile.

Swfcdan
Swfcdan
Reply to  sniff test
7 years ago

@sniff test: Is it bull pen or bullpen?

Cheese Eating Surrender Monkey
Cheese Eating Surrender Monkey
Reply to  Swfcdan
7 years ago

@Swfcdan: no space.

Swfcdan
Swfcdan
7 years ago

Man closers…

Im still not sold on Castro despite owning him, the phrase “the harder they throw the further it goes” comes to mind. Do you think Osuna would be next in line if he falters, worth hedging with Castro?

And Melanhead still got the save despite his stuff looking impotent. Watson’s gotta be the stash right? Can’t even be bothered to talk about Axford getting the save, but it sounds just like Otta wanted the day off which is a relief.

Ante GALIC
Ante GALIC
7 years ago

Smokey!!

Great work, man! Really appreciate. In a SUPER shallow league, I dropped Allen after his second blowup to pick up Storen in one league and Miller in a second league. Any drop to improve one’s current status is okay, right?

Cheers,
Ante

slicke5
slicke5
7 years ago

Given the Nats bullpen strugs, what are your thoughts on Rafael Martin? Maybe sneak into high leverage 7th/8th ?

Au shizz showers
Au shizz showers
7 years ago

I just flipped grilli & Castro for Kelley Jansen… Which frees up a spot which I plan on using to grab ottavino who was dropped when an owner scrambled today to pickup Guerrero. Will put me with Jensen, rosenthal and McGee for my RP. Seems to be a big 2 thumbs up right?

Au shizz showers
Au shizz showers
Reply to  Au shizz showers
7 years ago

@Au shizz showers: and ottavino assuming my waiver claim isn’t beaten

Au shizz showers
Au shizz showers
Reply to  Au shizz showers
7 years ago

@Au shizz showers: and shit while im here homie, where would u slide in McGee once healthy on your list…figure mid corn?

jal179
jal179
Reply to  Au shizz showers
7 years ago

@Au shizz showers:

I doubt McGee gets the job back– Box is boss

rapscallion13
rapscallion13
7 years ago

Did I see a “Better Call Saul” reference in the employed description? I like it.

SallyCips
SallyCips
7 years ago

I think the brain freezes are not so much bf’s just lame ducks. Box and Peralta have been fine, Clippard OK. They’ve been better than others on the list. Win now with them over others. Who knows what the situations will be down the line or even next week.

Schoolboy P
Schoolboy P
7 years ago

Any insight you can shed on the Miguel Casto or Tyler Clippard situations?

dizzystpizzy
dizzystpizzy
Reply to  Smokey
7 years ago

@Smokey: ha!

A Hill O' Beans
A Hill O' Beans
Reply to  Smokey
7 years ago

@Schoolboy P: Castro is your closer for the Jays for the rest of the season unless he sucks bad enough that they have to remove. He could lose it, but nobody is gonna take it from him IMO.

@Smokey: Close, but I think Jesus was a Carpenter, not a plumber soo….

Schoolboy P
Schoolboy P
Reply to  Smokey
7 years ago

@Smokey:

Cute. I know it was complicated. I was actually curious if you thought Cecil was pitching well enough to re-take the job or if Doolittle was showing enough in his rehab to expect him to bump Clippard upon return.

slimbo
slimbo
7 years ago

What’s up…

Saves/holds league and could use all the pitching help I could get

Current guys are boxburger/watson/joe+carson smith/Grilli/davis/garcia

Would you drop any of them for barrett/harris/jepsen/shaw/tazawa/hatcher/Cecil or siegrest

Thx pal :)

Crapshoot Kershaw
Crapshoot Kershaw
Reply to  Smokey
7 years ago

@Smokey: my assumption being he’s talking about l.garcia PHI, you’d keep him over barrett/jepsen/cecil? really.

Gonzo_The_Great
Gonzo_The_Great
7 years ago

I thought I had such a coup when I nabbed Chisek. I really believed the fish would swim upstream this year.

Now I’ve got a guy who just sits there and gets put in once a week because it’s not like they’ve got any save situations to save him for.

Crapshoot Kershaw
Crapshoot Kershaw
Reply to  Gonzo_The_Great
7 years ago

@Gonzo_The_Great: he’s had 3 or so good innings in a row.

Scott
Scott
7 years ago

I’m partial to Samuel Tuivailala. Sounds like the start of a French ditty.

Don
Don
7 years ago

I feel like Ottavino should be much higher.

JimmyBond
JimmyBond
Reply to  Don
7 years ago

@Don: agree totally. Swap him for Cody Allen who blew a nice game for Bauer. 2 of 6 games as losses.

Paz
Paz
7 years ago

i think the o/u for nathan should be somewhere right around 0.5….

Joeg414
Joeg414
7 years ago

R.Soriano :Not so much when , but Where does everyone think he’ll go ?

Mes to the Rocco
Mes to the Rocco
7 years ago

Betances was just dropped in my 10 team. Closers are Robertson, Box, Storen, Castro, Reed. Drop any of them for Dellin?

burningbridges247
burningbridges247
Reply to  Mes to the Rocco
7 years ago

@Mes to the Rocco: I’m in a saves/holds league, and someone dropped him. I couldn’t scoop him up fast enough. The way he has looked as of late can really help your ratios and Ks, if you have the room. Problem is, you are getting saves at the moment from ALL those guys. Reed makes my stomach hurt after owning him for two years of owning him, so if you part with one, that would be my choice.

Crapshoot Kershaw
Crapshoot Kershaw
Reply to  Smokey
7 years ago

@Smokey: this had to mean non-holds league right?

Swfcdan
Swfcdan
7 years ago

Why is Rodney ranked 8th after stinking so far. Do you see no chance one of the other bullpen guys gets a shot? Because of Mclendons dumbness?

Scott
Scott
7 years ago

Is Cam Bedrosian related to Steve Bedrosian?

GhostTownSteve
GhostTownSteve
Reply to  Scott
7 years ago

@Scott:

Son

tgk
tgk
7 years ago

Man I’d be willing to bet all my worldly positions on the under for 10 more saves for Joe Nathan. Dude is toast that’s been left in the toaster a year too long.

Area51
Area51
Reply to  tgk
7 years ago

You could set the total number of saves that Nathan will get from now until the end of time at ZERO and I’d still put everything I have on the under.

The Bandit
Reply to  Area51
7 years ago

@Area51: I think you would lose that.

Mantis Toboggan MD
Mantis Toboggan MD
Reply to  The Bandit
7 years ago

@The Bandit: yeah it’s way more likely he gets exactly 0 saves, not under 0, for basic math updates.

The Bandit
7 years ago

with Farquhar being FarFromQuality (DID YOU SEE WHAT I DID THERE!!??!!) and Rodney seeming totally entrenched… is he worth holding on to as a future closer?

The Bandit
Reply to  Smokey
7 years ago

@Smokey: What do you look for in games pitched? If he pitched a bunch the week before you try to play him?
This is a weekly league. I generally look to quality of opponent for determining which non closer guys to start.

The Bandit
Reply to  The Bandit
7 years ago

@The Bandit: I meant you try not to play him if he pitched the week before.

Swfcdan
Swfcdan
7 years ago

So is T-Wats the guy now after his save last night?

Jim
Jim
7 years ago

oops, typo, Cespedes/Santana/Hughes for Reyes/McCarthy

Jim
Jim
7 years ago

My Cespedes, Danny Santana and Hughes for his Jose Reyes and Phil HUghes? I have Russell so I could stand pat and hope he performs well. I do have a 5 capable OF’s though, Upton, Cespedes, Heyward, Martin, Poloanco. The trade would alleviate the logjam I have in the OF.

Standard scoring in 12 team league.

phil
phil
7 years ago

What are the chances of seeing Broxton being the Closer any time soon?

JFK
JFK
7 years ago

Jim Johnson seems to have reverted to his 2014 form.
He had inherent value in my 7×7 H2H league with holds and saves as categories, with the anticipation that he might take over as the closer if/when Grilli gets traded, but thinking he’s just going to drop into obscurity at this point.
Is Avilan the next man up, or does Martin leapfrog him with the way he’s been pitching?

Also, Siegrist looks to have regained his 2013 dominance – do you see him moving past Belisle/Choate/Maness to take a more prominent 7th/8th inning role?
Considering him for holds + ratios.

Thanks!

Tom
Tom
7 years ago

Shoulder issues with pitchers can be a little tricky. What are the chances that Doolittle doesn’t come back to close either because he is not as effective as Clippard or left handed or both?

chief
chief
7 years ago

I realize that since I own him he’s twice as valuable but don’t you think Alls in the Familia needs to be climbing the list? His name is Jeurys after all. the Amazin’s are famous for strange plays but I don’t see anyone taking this guys job any time soon and he’s lights out right now. Watching him pitch, it looks consistently down at the bottom of the zone and its hard with late life.

Chuckles Tiddlesworth
Chuckles Tiddlesworth
7 years ago

How is Melancon not a brain freeze? He’s hurtin’ my melon big time!

uncdrew
uncdrew
Reply to  Chuckles Tiddlesworth
7 years ago

@Chuckles Tiddlesworth:

Looks like he just got a clean save this afternoon. He’s back!!!

jal179
jal179
7 years ago

Holland owner here. Other closers are Miller, Rondon, Cishek. 10 teamer h2h

Any chance Holland loses his job even if regains his health? I’m thiking 20% chance?

Is Holland a healthy 12$ salad?

jal179
jal179
Reply to  Smokey
7 years ago

@Smokey:

Nice firgured. Hoping he gets his man tit strength back

DUbba Dubs
DUbba Dubs
7 years ago

Do you still project K.Jansen as a $12 Salad when he returns?

Duda Want to Build a Snowman?
Duda Want to Build a Snowman?
7 years ago

Great writeup! Currently rostering Wade, but staring at Castro on the wire. Hold Wade until Holland is back and closing, or drop for Castro and the possibility of a longer tenure at CL?

jal179
jal179
Reply to  Duda Want to Build a Snowman?
7 years ago

@Duda Want to Build a Snowman?:

I’d want both Castro and Wade– Castro doesnt speak english, has no idea he’s even in the big leagues and look outstading.

Any bench bats u could drop?

Duda Want to Build a Snowman?
Duda Want to Build a Snowman?
Reply to  jal179
7 years ago

@jal179: I hate saying LOL, but that’s exactly what I just did.

It’s a tight bench + having any more than 3 closers puts a crunch on SPs. Already have Storen and Rondon, so really only looking to have a 3rd… Completely agreed with you on Castro though, he looks nasty.

GhostTownSteve
GhostTownSteve
7 years ago

Any chance it’s Delgado when Reed has h is eventual implosion?