Collin Cowgill sounds like a Texas radio personality or a DC Comic character, but is actually the Diamondbacks’ fifth round pick from 2008 that is killing the minor leagues.  (That’s the urbandictionary killing, which is actually good.  I’m hip, snitches!)  In 97 games, 13 homers and 29 steals with a .354 average.  It was in the PCL though, where they pump helium into their stadiums.  And, now, guess what?  Well, he’s getting called up, I mean that’s obvious, isn’t it?  Why else am I talking about him?  In deeper leagues, I’d grab Cowgill to see if he can translate his power and speed combo to the majors.  Anyway, here’s what else I saw yesterday in fantasy baseball:

Ian Kinsler – 4-for-6, 4 RBIs and his 16th homer.  Andrus went 3-for-6, 2 RBIs; Hamilton 2-for-4, 3 RBIs; Napoli 4-for-5; Cruz 4-for-6; Young hit a homer.  Frankly, the Rangers scoring summary was denser than David Foster Wallace footnotes.

Chris Davis – 0-for-6 while the Rangers scored 20 runs.  That is an incredible ticker tease.  It almost seems mathematically impossible it’s so epic.  Though Davis is more like a career tease.  He wears low cut skirts and a chastity belt.  (BTW, Davis also had two errors.  Too bad none of my fantasy teams have a slot for a futility player.)

Pedro Alvarez – 1-for-3 yesterday as he was promoted after Alex Presley was seen leaving the building.  I think the Pirates and Pedro agreed to forget that the first half ever happened.  Pirates collective voice, “Pedro, just hit like you did last 2nd half.  We’ll blame the first half on one of the many subpar 3Bs we’ve had over the years.  Pedro Alvarez, nah?  That was Jose Hernandez.  Or Andy LaRoche.  Or Jose Bautista– Oops, can’t use that one anymore.”

James McDonald – 5 1/3 IP, 0 ER, 8 baserunners, 9 Ks.  He was in last Friday’s Buy/Sell.  He was on the left side, which is the right side.  Weird!

Chipper Jones – 2-for-4 with a slam and legs as he returned from the DL.  Unfortunately, this is Glass Chipper we’re talking about and he was removed from the game with a tight quad.  I’d say he’s day-to-day, but with Chipper it’s more like minute-to-minute.

Cliff Lee – 4 IP, 5 ER vs. the Padres in Philly.  Imagine the Padres called a hitter-friendly stadium home?  Then they’d have mediocre pitching to go along with mediocre hitting.

R.A. Dickey – 6 2/3 IP, 2 ER, 9 baserunners, 7 Ks vs. Mike Leake (6 1/3 IP, 2 ER, 10 baserunners, 3 Ks).  How do they have a Dickey/Leake matchup and not have former Reds pitching coach, Dick Pole, throw out the first pitch?  Okay, okay.  Instead of saying a ball was hit up the middle, the announcers should’ve said it went through the vas deferns.  All right, all right.  When Dickey was facing Leake, did he shake off the curve?  Okay, that’s enough.  Geez.

Jason Isringhausen – Got another save, but you should wait until the trading deadline to drop Parnell.  That’s me reiterating me!

Dan Haren – 7 2/3 IP, 1 ER, 5 baserunners, 10 Ks.  Finally someone snuck in and changed his calendars back to June.  See, you don’t need acne to get proactive.

Jason Kubel – 2-for-4 and a homer.  I’m not a huge fan, but if you’re struggling for power, wouldn’t hurt to try Kubel.

Ezequiel Carrera – 0-for-3.  Know what would be utterly fantastic?  If the guy whose name is Spanish for squirrel, would run like one.  Stop worrying about your Amish morals and steal a base, Ezequiel!

Fausto Carmona – 6 IP, 0 ER, 7 baserunners, 3 Ks.  I wouldn’t own Fausto in any league so this isn’t about him.  Do you get the sense the Indians are hoping they lose some games so they don’t have to pretend to trade for players?

Carlos Lee – 1-for-4 with a grand slam.  2nd day in a row with a homer.  Looks like Chuck Lee is the Flavor Flav of the week for power.

Colby Rasmus – 1-for-3, 3 RBIs with his 2nd homer in two games.  You can keep beating down Colby, but he’s a Survivor.

Yadier Molina – The youngest member of the Flying Molina Bros. has now hit a homer in three straight games.

Lance Berkman – Big Puma is out for a day or two with a rotator cuff strain.  Coincidentally, my Mercury Cougar’s out for a day or two with an alternator issue.  Nothing a little mustache grease can’t fix.

Jose Altuve – 3-for-4, now hitting .412 since his call up.  If you’re having issues with your middle infidel, could be worth the flyer.

Mark Buehrle – 6 IP, 0 ER, 11 baserunners, 4 Ks.  Season ERA at 3.22.  Him and Danks are like Trader Joe’s wine.  Are you impressing anyone with it?  Nope, but it does get the job done and it’s not as bad as you think.

Sergio Santos – Didn’t get the save because Ozzie had Sale open the ninth in a 3-run game.  After the game, Ozzie tweeted, “My H2H opponent has Santos.  #sorryputas”

Juan Pierre – 2-for-5 with his 16th steal and 12th caught stealing.  Jonah Hill in Moneyball would not be impressed.

Jason Vargas – 4 IP, 4 ER.  I said this last time, but not everyone reads every day.  I get it, you have to tend to your crops in Farmville.  Either way, Vargas is no longer ownable in most mixed leagues.

Kevin Youkilis – Left Monday’s contest with hamstring tightness.  The Jewish Youkilis should know better than to mess with hamstrings.

Desmond Jennings – 2-for-4 with his 3rd steal.  I’m gonna photocopy Jennings’ face onto a thousand doilies and fashion a dress out of it, then walk around singing, “Don’t mess with my Desmond Tutu!”

Rubby de la Rosa – 6 IP, 1 ER, 7 baserunners, 5 Ks.  Now has an ERA of 3.49.  I have my shades drawn so my solar calculator doesn’t work, but could someone tell me the collective ERA for all starters in the NL West?

Aaron Harang – 6 IP, 4 ER, 10 baserunners, 2 Ks.  The Harangutan now has 9 wins and a 3.45 ERA.  Boy am I glad I drafted Liriano!

Cameron Maybin – Out for a few games with a strained hip flexor.  When he returns, his coming up to bat song will no longer be The Twist.

Kyle Blanks – 7 Ks in 13 ABs.  He fills in the blanks with K’s.  Yi_es!  Quit stri_ing out, you motherfuc_er!

  1. 626 Jack says:

    I was lauhing so hard from the Jennings and Blanks comment that I forgot my question…….or was it my “prescription”. I’ll get back to you.

  2. Jah says:

    hey Big Puma, there’s a slipnslide in the backseat of my Mercury Lynx!

  3. muchacho says:

    love the trader joe wine comparison

  4. in_ertiatic says:

    Glad you mentioned Jennings… I vote for a DJ lead or mention everyday for the rest of time, cuz this kid is the goods. Watched him play vs the A’s last night at the (utterly ridiculous) coliseum and he was awesome IRL. As soon as he got on base you could just see that he was going and of course he did. Then the little SOB got greedy and tried to take third too on the next damn pitch! After he was thrown out he walked back to the dugout with a look I can only describe as confusion. Its as if he truly believes EVERY BASE IN THE UNIVERSE belongs to him and how dare the beyotchazz ump call him out! I’m always a fan of the top prospect callup (Ima dreamer what can I say) but after watching DJ live it’s gone to a whole nutha level. It’s full-on man crush time with “I heart DJ” on my trapper keeper and a raging SB boner.

    Anywho, that’s it for story time. Back to your regularly scheduled “my x & x for this guys blech or should I just offer my 2B for a whales vagina who do you think wins or is that a good deal for my team ROS or maybe should I grab someone off the WW? Thanks Grey!”

  5. Bré Jus says:

    @Grey DFW footnotes reference in a post about a Texas Rangers box-score = Going hard in the paint.

  6. Oilcan Giuseppe says:

    Grey:could you rank these SP’s for me-10 team h2h 8×8 league(K/9,QS)?….thanks.


  7. 101 MPH says:

    Excellent news for all those following Dan Uggla’s prolific 2011 campaign. From the Yahoo sports desk:


    Uggla has 15-game streak but still below .200

    ATLANTA (AP)—A scoring change from Sunday’s game in Cincinnati has given Dan Uggla, hitting below .200, a 15-game hitting streak and a claim to a statistical anomaly.

    According to STATS, LLC, Uggla’s .197 batting average is the lowest for any player since 1946 to carry a hitting streak of 15 games or longer after at least 100 games.

    Third baseman Miguel Cairo(notes) was given an error on Uggla’s sixth-inning at-bat in the Reds’ 4-3 win on Sunday. The Braves say the ruling was changed to a hit for Uggla on Monday.

    According to STATS, Julio Lugo(notes) was hitting .225 through a 15-game hitting streak through 102 games for Boston in 2007. That was the previous low mark for a player with a 15-game streak this late in the season.


    Upon learning of his record breaking accomplishment, Uggla was quoted as saying (with apologies to Rickey Henderson): “Julio Lugo was the symbol of great shitty hitting, but today I am the greatest shitty hitter of all time. Thank you!”

  8. Jangles says:

    what position does Cowgill play? Sure I could google it but I’d rather harass you

  9. Critter Nagurski says:

    I know it was probably rhetorical, but I have time on my hands, soooo… collective starter ERA in the nl west is 3.75

  10. Mr2Bits says:

    Only a Ron Washington devil’s dandruff line could top this one :

    Sergio Santos – Didn’t get the save because Ozzie had Sale open the ninth in a 3-run game. After the game, Ozzie tweeted, “My H2H opponent has Santos. #sorryputas”

  11. Josh says:

    My pitching is such a disaster this season. The top of my rotation was Marcum, Liriano, and Jhoulys. I traded for Garza who now is probably my ace. In H2H they combined the last 2 weeks, in 14 starts I got 4 wins… so its pretty much time to give up on my pitching. Yesterday I picked up Freddy Garcia to throw against the Mariners for a win. Today I’m thinking Joe Saunders in SD and maybe Miller against KC. No more time to sit on my terrible pitching, full stream ahead!

  12. chata says:

    @101 MPH:

    nice .

    wonder what his batting average will be when he breaks
    dimaggio’s record .

  13. knighttown says:

    Taking your advice to go for broke. Threw an offer today for Jared Weaver…Mark Reynolds, Ian Kennedey and Mark Melancon. Is that too much and assuming it isn’t, what other SP’s would you give up that package to get. Already have Hamels.

  14. Lance Berkman says:

    Did you really mention a two day injury, while failing to mention about 25 of my 27 homeruns? Whatever grey…keep those Pedro Alvarez updates coming!

    I’m unbookmarking you!!!!!

  15. busta says:

    Going to have to get rid of one of these guys – which one:

    P.Alvarez (hung on to him this long, tough to drop his ass now)

  16. Eddy says:

    Hilarious Santos line!

    Grey, whose hot streak do you prefer? Fowler or Jeter? Thinking of picking one up for a few days.

  17. @Grey: I just got a trade offer of Matt Kemp and BJ Upton for Hunter Pence and Justin Upton. What do you think?

  18. Cowgill doesn’t seem to be listed in Yahoo as of 9:30 Eastern Time…pretty lame.

  19. Lob Ball says:

    Alvarez or Reynolds in ROTO?

  20. GB says:


    The Trader Joe’s wine is decent. And I’m actually not a hippie, or the hippie dippie weather man.

  21. mhfella says:

    Ozzie pulled that same thing with Santos on July 18th. A trend? I’ve enjoyed Santos for a while now, but should I pick up Guera instead at this point? Who’s likely to get more saves the rest of the way? Thanks Grey!

  22. DogHat says:

    5×5 roto 12 team 2 Catcher league: I have MMontero and Avila, but was offered Soto for Avila, should I?

    Which SP ROS?
    J Vazquez
    R DeLaRossa


  23. Matt Damon says:

    Need help with a trade… who wins in this situation:

    The guy getting Wright just lost Beltre for a while…

    DWright and Rasmus for Gio Gonzalez and Beltran

  24. PPDL3 says:

    Longtime lurker, but I have a BIG deal in the works and don’t know where else to turn.

    My Jeff Weaver and Shane Victorino for his Josh Johnson, Logan Morrison, and Jholys Chacin?

    I am in full out “get the best keeper mode.” Our keeper settings are such that we must keep 5 and may keep up to 10. The additional keepers cost draft picks, so if one team were to keep 5 and all others 10 that team that kept only 5 would have the first five picks in the draft from the remaining keeper pool. Since elite talent doesn’t make the keeper pool, my understanding of the league structure is that it’s best to keep 10, but not absolutely requisite. I have 8 strong keepers, 9 if Choo can be seen as one. In general, however, being a keeper means that the player should be considered at least a top 140 pick… with value skewed toward youth.

    The big question, of course, is do you trust Josh Johnson’s shoulder?

    Thanks so much for the help!

    6×6 weekly HtH 14 team

    Offensive Categories: BA, OPS, RBI, HR, SB and Runs Scored.
    Pitching Categories: W-L, S, ERA, K/IP, Quality Starts and WHIP

  25. BryanK says:

    Beachy or James McDonald? Thanks!

  26. stumanji says:

    You agree with these rankings ROS in a QS (no wins) keeper league?
    Gio Gonzalez

    I’ve been holding Strasberg all season and somebody offered 2 of the above for him, which I’m pretty excited about.

    Great post, as always. Thanks, Grey.

  27. K76154 says:

    Start Niese @Cin tomorrow?

  28. PPDL3 says:

    A little more on Cowgill:

    The numbers are obviously superb, but while you mentioned the major caveat (home park) there are a few more. For one, while his power looks nice, most of his homer output came early in the year; he’s only hit 2 homers since the beginning of June. Secondly, he is sporting a .398 babip. Sure, that’s not so high when a guy is batting .350 or so, but he’s never hit over .300 at any other stop in the majors.

    Most scouts see him as a 4th outfielder, but that may be due more to his size, 5’9″ is undersized for a corner OF, than anything else as I’ve seen some scouts mention that he has “pretty good tools.” Overall, it seems unlikely that he’ll set the world on fire, but could certainly be a useful guy in the mold of Parra, Melky, or Coghlin. In fact, Cowgill reminds me a lot of Coghlin when he was first called up… that kind of performance is probably his ceiling on his first run through of the majors.

  29. TheNewGuy says:

    Ha that’s so Chris Davis! Epic ticker tease.

    Typical Rasmus, hits 2 home runs right after people cut him… Is this a trap or could he be getting back on track. I could try and claim him back off waivers at $14 or hope noone does and wait till FA where he’d be $6. Could use another OF, there’s clearly potential there, that was a bomb last night!

  30. papasmurf says:

    Congratulations Rays on saving some money by taking away Jenning’s super 2 status. Funny thing is, after the next labor negotiation, super 2 may not even be in effect anymore, so that means by being cheapskates, they could have caused themselves a playoff run and playoff ticket sales.

    I guess I’ll be rooting for the Rays players but against the team. Here’s to them losing 13-9 every game!

  31. Grey

    Grey says:

    @626 Jack: Thanks!

    @Jah: Ha!

    @muchacho: Thanks!

    @in_ertiatic: Ha, great comment.

    @Bré Jus: Ha

    @Oilcan Giuseppe: Harang, McDonald, Cecil…

    @101 MPH: That’s hilarious.

    @Jangles: Or read the title.

    @Critter Nagurski: It wasn’t rhetorical. Thanks!

    @Mr2Bits: Thanks!

    @Josh: Go for it!

    @knighttown: Not too much.

    @busta: Freese

    @Eddy: Thanks! Jeter

    @Chicago Mike: Seems pointless.

    @Lob Ball: Reynolds

    @mhfella: Santos

    @DogHat: No on the trade… Buehrle

    @Matt Damon: Wright side.

    @PPDL3: Weaver is doing right now what Johnson maybe can do, don’t see why you’d do that trade.

    @BryanK: Beachy

    @stumanji: Sounds right… No problem.

    @K76154: No

    @PPDL3: Thanks for the breakdown!

    @TheNewGuy: $6

    @papasmurf: Ha!

  32. TheNewGuy says:

    @in_ertiatic: I agree, we need a DJ comment each day. Heck the way he’s playing he might justify it!

  33. busta says:

    which sp to grab for streaming next week:

    Danks (NYY,@Min)
    Lackey (Cle,NYY)

  34. Feeding the Abscess

    Feeding the Abscess says:

    Cowgill, in a similar AA ballpark environment last year:

    .285, 16 HR, 89 R, 83 RBI, 25 SB

    10% BB, 13% K, .179 ISO

    In 120 more PA than he’s received this year. His home park last year in AA was more conducive to RHB power than his home park in AAA this season, according to StatCorner park factors.

    Figure some of his improvement is clearly because of the PCL environment, and some is likely legitimate advancement in skill, and you could have a solid pickup. I dropped Revere for him, for what it’s worth.

    I don’t think a full season line of .280-15-20 would be out of the question.

  35. Eddy says:


    Thanks for the response. Once I added Jeter, I could have sworn my team made a rickety creaking noise which must have been what old sounds like.

    Anyways, what the heck has been up with Fielder and Votto?!

    Fielder hasn’t hit a HR since July 5th (last day the Mariners won a game) and Votto has two HR in July, never mind only have 13 on the year!

  36. Feeding the Abscess

    Feeding the Abscess says:

    Votto’s power surge last year was kind of an aberration, I’d bet. His HR/FB rate is down from his career average this year, but they were way higher than his career averages last season.

  37. Feeding the Abscess

    Feeding the Abscess says:

    I say aberration relatively, of course. Dude’s probably going to average 30 HR for the next few years, with an OBP over .400

  38. Eddy says:

    @Feeding the Abscess:

    Yeah, I agree. Like Grey mentioned in the pre-season, 2010 was his best-case scenario. But I didn’t think he’d have 13 HR almost at the end of July. I’m hoping his career tendencies stay the same because he usually rakes in September aka playoff time.

  39. Jackie says:

    Thoughts on when Brett Lawrie gets called up? Speculation is that they trade Thames this week (for Bell), move Bautista to the OF, and call up Lawrie.

    Do you think Lawrie can still contribute in the majors this year?

  40. CoreyII says:

    trying to trade a CL for a SP – ive got Perez, Santos, Marmol, Guerra, Rauch, looking to land Beachy, Hellickson, Pineda, or Leubke – see 2 that line up in a fair deal that will work out best for me?

  41. ChiliDavisConCarne says:

    Excellent writeup today, made me laugh as usual.
    Question for you:
    H2H league with OBP instead of AVG, needing help with R/HR/RBI. Worth picking up Rasmus/Trumbo/Brantley or G.Sanchez for a Utility spot?

  42. royce! says:

    That Dickey/Leake writeup was so funny I almost peed my pants! Zing!

  43. Doc Pounder says:

    I got 52 outta 55 in hitting.(4th in steals). 32.5 points in pitching. ERA @ 3.44 (.16 from 1st) WHIP @ 1.23 (.05 from 1st) K’s 741 (117 from 1st)
    No one will trade with me,( won 4 outta last 5 years) I’m going to need room for Bedard and Oswalt when they come back. Which 2 of my RES players should I get rid of,or should I do nothing?
    PS I’m keeping Walden,some weeks I use 3 RP’s.
    Thanks for your advice and especially your humor !

    11 team 5×5 roto

    1b- Teixeira
    2b- Pedroia
    3b- A Ram
    SS- Reyes
    C – Montero
    OF- Cruz, Krispie, Gardner, Markakis, LoMo
    SP- F-Her, Marcum, Latos, Luebke, Kuroda
    RP- Axford, Perez
    P- Zimmermann
    UT- Miggy, Lind

    Res.- Heyward, Thames ——– Beachy, Chacin, Walden
    DL- Bedard, Oswalt, Craig

  44. Will says:

    crawford or cruz?

    I recently added bonifacio, maybin, and snyder who all get SB’s. Along with Stubbs, Reyes and Cargo (when he returns). So I think I could part with crawford, especially since he is not getting SB’s like previous years.

    Any thoughts?

  45. Wilsonian says:

    Beachy or Danks ROS?

  46. Joel says:

    12 Team Mixed points based Keeper league. I am nowhere neat contending for a league win. Would you make this deal?


    Troy Tulowitzski
    Cole Hamels


    Mike Stanton
    Carlos Gonzalez
    Madison Bumgarner

    I would not intend to select Bumgarner as a ‘keeper’ he’s more or less a replacement for the Hamels slot. I also own Hanley Ramirez.


  47. Wilsonian says:

    Sit or Start Question:

    I’ve got Quentin in the OF and Konerko at UTIL going against Verlander today (who I also have). Would you bench them for Bourn and Andrus for today?

  48. Long Bawls says:

    So I saw yesterday that the M’s were playing Smoak and Carp, and all I could think was: when are they gonna trade for Whiteside?

  49. stumanji says:

    @Grey: Regarding ranking Romero, Gio, Gallardo, Masterson…everything I look at on fangraphs (e.g., WAR, xFIP, SIERA) is telling me that Masterson is the best of the bunch here. I think Romero is prob the best real-life pitcher but he’s also in AL East (ex A: he got rocked by Boston 3 starts ago).

    Why doesn’t anybody believe in JM after 140+ IP? It’s not like he came out of nowhere; he was one of Boston’s top prospects once upon a time, no?

  50. Will says:

    @Joel: I would trade Hanley before Tulo

  51. L-Boogie says:

    Neftali Feliz/Kuroda/Swisher or King Felix/Soriano?

    What if Sori was swapped out for Ibanez?

    Thanks dude.

  52. chata says:


    does lawrie have better keeper value than trout ?

  53. stumanji says:

    @Grey: Last question: Does your opinion of Romero, Gio, Gallardo, Masterson change at all if they were to be kept (e.g., because of age, future seasons’ projections, improvement, etc). My league is only 6 keepers so I doubt I’d be keeping any of them, but just curious.

  54. crock says:

    How would you rank these guys rest of the season
    Reddick, Thames, Rajai?

  55. OaktownSteve says:

    Trick question: Who has the best OBP in MLB post ASB?

    It’s not actually a trick question, it’s just a questions with a weird answer: The Swingin’ A’s

    Conor Jackson should be owned in every league, including the two team, 30 player league you set up for you and yer granny.

  56. Long Bawls says:

    Rollins for Kimbrel dumb? I have Jeter and 13 or 14 points (14-team 6×6 roto) in most offense categories, but only 5 in SVs. I’d ordinarily laugh at such a trade, but I dunno…

  57. Grey

    Grey says:

    @L-Boogie: F-Her side in either scenario.

    @chata: A tad, yeah.

    @stumanji: I can’t imagine keeping any of them in a 6 keeper league.

    @crock: Depends on needs… Reddick, Thames…

    @OaktownSteve: Ha! That is weird. You love the A’s.

    @Long Bawls: It’s fine if you really need saves.

  58. stumanji says:

    @Grey: Right, ok, good, I agree. Thanks.

  59. Taftball says:

    Help me pick 5 of these players for next year….(no penalty)

    Prince Fielder
    Rickie Weeks
    Ryan Zimmerman
    Justin Upton
    Jacoby Ellsbury
    Curtis Granderson
    Clayton Kershaw
    Shaun Marcum


  60. Taftball says:

    Sorry…its a 16-team H2H cats league

  61. Biggidy says:

    Daniel Hudson or Scherzer ROS?

  62. Long Bawls says:

    @Taftball: Wow. Nice choices to have. I’d drop Ellsbury, Marcum and Granderson, though you could make a case that Weeks should go instead of Ellsbury.

  63. Grey

    Grey says:

    @stumanji: No problem.

    @Taftball: Fielder, Upton, Zimmerman, Ellsbury, Kershaw… Some tough choices…

    @Biggidy: Scherzer

  64. Feeding the Abscess

    Feeding the Abscess says:

    For a third perspective, I’d keep Weeks, Zimmerman, and the three outfielders. You can draft a 1B in the first couple of rounds next year, and let someone else draft Kershaw in the third round.

    That said, I drafted Morneau this year, and my team is tanking. So… yeah. heh

  65. Brian says:

    Should the following have been vetoed by Yahoo?

    Werth/Carlos Pena/Liriano for Papelbon/Neil Walker/Coco Crisp

    The team trading Werth and Pena has leads runs and RBIs by 50 or so and TB by 200 and is in 4th place in steals and 3rd place in saves and was looking to get Neil Walker to back up 2B/3B/MI/CI.

    The trade was accepted before Liriano’s latest humiliation.

  66. Grey

    Grey says:

    @Brian: Trade looks fine.

  67. Awesomus Maximus

    Awesomus Maximus says:

    Silly Grey… I thought I made it clear that Haren’s success is tied directly to my ownership of him. Obviously he’s going back to ace status now that I’ve traded him away.

    In other news, in an effort to curb my starts and lower my ERA/WHIP, I benched Bumgarner (vs. Mil) and started Ubaldo (@Ari) on Sunday. That worked out well.


  68. Wilsonian says:

    @Taftball: how about another perspective? Fielder, Ellsbury, Upton, Grandy, Zimmerman (or Kershaw). In a deep league like that I like to have one top tier arm guaranteed. But I could see rolling with Zimm…but I don’t like his injury-proneness.

  69. L-Boogie says:

    Vernon Wells or Swisher for ROS? 5×5

    Thanks dude.

  70. Will says:

    @Grey: which one for 2012? Crawford or Cruz?

  71. Big Magoo

    Big Magoo says:

    @Taftball: I agree with Grey’s choices, but I also think Zimm’s overrated. Keep Fielder, Upton, Ellsbury, and Kershaw, and maybe try to move Grandy, Weeks, or Zimm (or some combo, if you can afford to) to acquire an elite option at a thin position for your fifth keeper (a Cano or Tulo type).

  72. L-Boogie says:

    OK, one more.

    Kelly Johnson or Kinsler ROS? 5×5

    I think it’s pretty obvious but I’d believe you over me any day of the week.

    Thanks dude.

  73. 626 Jack says:

    what are your thoughts on Cobb in Tampa and the possible emergence of Moore?

  74. AL KOHOLIC says:

    @Grey: cowgill officially called up,1 report says he should get ab,s against lefties,you expect him to get more than that

  75. jackie says:

    Can you rank these 3 in order for the rest of the year:

    Cain, Shields, Beckett

  76. Grey

    Grey says:

    @L-Boogie: Kinsler

    @626 Jack: Decent flyers per matchups.

    @AL KOHOLIC: Hopefully, but nothing is guaranteed. He’s not mixed league ownable yet. Except maybe deep keepers.

    @jackie: Beckett, Shields…

  77. Jake says:

    Who sucks the least, ROS:

    Brett Myers
    Javy Vazquez
    Waiver fodder streams

  78. Awesomus Maximus

    Awesomus Maximus says:

    @Grey: That Kershaw/Longoria for “Pot of Mediocre Stew” trade I brought up last night has caused quite a mess at the league today. Got me thinking that I need to be in a league with more reliable peeps… dynasty league, keepers, inclusion of auction money in trades allowed… something to keep people interested even if they’re out of the running.

    So I was wondering how RCLs work. Are they set up and run by Razzball and just filled with commenters? Are they set up and run by commenters?

  79. BTrain says:

    @Grey or anyone:

    I trade Justin Upton and get Tim Lincecum

    I need pitching, and I have Desmond Jennings to take Upton’s place.


  80. AL KOHOLIC says:

    @Grey: THANKS

  81. Grey

    Grey says:

    @Jake: Streamers

    @Awesomus Maximus: That sucks… Isn’t it a keeper? Why else is someone trading their entire team if not for keepers? RCLs are set up and run by commenters.

    @BTrain: Sounds good.

    @AL KOHOLIC: No problem.

  82. EK says:

    Collmenter @ LAD


    Nicasio @ SD

  83. EK says:

    also for Collmenter vs Nicasio which for the ROS?

  84. Awesomus Maximus

    Awesomus Maximus says:

    @Grey: No keepers… it has to be a redraft league because every year at least two people drop out and new blood comes in. The trade vexes me, honestly… the guy who got Kershaw/Longo insists it’s fair, the guy who gave them up thinks he did okay, but I’m sick of it.

    I’ve been playing FBB for far too long to not have a league full of reliable owners. I’ve just never given the necessary effort to make it happen. Knowing that RCLs are set up and run by commenters gives me a good jumping off point. I have about 4-6 reliable dudes that I play with to start, and then… I suppose the next step would be to post my league idea/settings/rules in the RCLs section of the forums? I assume you don’t want me (or anyone) using the comments to search for owners.

  85. Grey

    Grey says:

    @EK: Nicasio… Collmenter

    @Awesomus Maximus: Oh, that’s weird. Not sure why anyone would have a fire sale in a redraft league. You could take your 6 reliable dudes and move them into an RCL or you can post for owners.

  86. Wilsonian says:

    @Awesomus Maximus: just out of curiousity, what was the deal that went down?

  87. Awesomus Maximus

    Awesomus Maximus says:

    @Grey: Cool, cool… thanks. I’ve got some specific ideas, so I’ll give a new 2012 league a go and see if I can get some takers. If not, I’ll gladly slide into an existing RCL that comes as close to my desired league type as possible.

  88. Awesomus Maximus

    Awesomus Maximus says:




    Carlos Pena/Jay Bruce/Ryan Roberts/Latos/Daniel Hudson

  89. Steve says:

    @Awesomus Maximus: All RCLs have the same setup. 5×5, 5 OF, CI, MI, 9 P, 180 GS.

  90. Awesomus Maximus

    Awesomus Maximus says:

    @Steve: Ahh… that makes sense. I was just wondering how there were “Master Standings” if things weren’t uniform. Hmm… now to look for a Plan B.

  91. Wilsonian says:

    @Awesomus Maximus: hmmm, that’s not AS BAD as I first thought. Especially if it’s not a keeper (being that Longo and Kershaw are the best two keepers of the bunch). But it’s not like there aren’t some quality bats and arms in there. Longoria hasn’t been the super stud we all thought he would be, so I can kinda see it. But it’s not like it was Hudson/Roberts for Kershaw/Longoria. If that is what happened, then it’s time to physically remove guys from your league.

    That being said I’d obviously take the Longoria side.

  92. Steve says:

    Not to mention 2 BN and 1 DL. They’re all the same so Rudy can calculate overall standings.

  93. Awesomus Maximus

    Awesomus Maximus says:

    @Wilsonian: Nah, it’s not atrocious… which is why I didn’t use LM veto power to strike it down. It’s just that (from my perspective) Longo is finally producing, so there’s not as much risk taking him on, and Kershaw is… well… you ultimately have a top 10 bat and a top 10 arm going out the door and no one near the top 50 coming in through it. In fact, the bats coming through it are all on the decline (Roberts now losing playing time), and despite Longo’s way fewer ABs, he’s still close to Pena and Bruce in HR/RBI production on the season.

    Also, there’s no such thing as a “5 for 2” trade… the person getting the 5 doesn’t see an increase in their roster size, so it’s a 5 for 5 for all intents and purposes (get 5, trade away 2, drop 3). And on the flip side, the owner giving 5 doesn’t see a decrease in his roster size, so he doesn’t lose three players worth of production in the deal (he has three open slots to fill). This is something a few lesser savvy owners can’t wrap their head around, “5 for 2 is a great deal even if they are just an ‘okay’ 5.”

  94. ACME says:

    ROS for these DL’ers…Oswalt, Bedard, Sanchez or Buchholz? Would you rather just keep Chacin?

  95. Wilsonian says:

    @Awesomus Maximus: I definitely agree with you. I’m in a league where the only way to get something done is by giving up 2 and getting 1 in return. You almost have to do deals like this to get what you want. Not quite to that extent, but if you offer a 1 for 1, the other owner assumes you know something they don’t and won’t do the deal.

    And I’d definitely take the Longo side. The deal does beg the question as to what that guy was really thinking.

  96. BILLY JACK says:

    @Awesomus Maximus: yeah you get some weird trades this time of year,we just had an 11th place team that was courting 2,s and 3,s in most offensive cats,he is to far behind in saves to make a difference adding a closer and he had 8 sp,s,he traded carl crawford for farnsworth and d hudson to the team teatering between 1st and 2nd

  97. childplease says:

    12-team 5×5 roto league
    Please rank, I need help with avg in my util spot…

    D Brown

  98. Van Hagaar says:

    Assuming all healthy, cozart or hardy?

  99. Lis Franc says:

    Pena to the Yanks? Would you take him over Trumbo?

  100. Grey

    Grey says:

    @ACME: Oswalt

    @childplease: These aren’t average helps… Brown…Whoever’s hot…

    @Van Hagaar: Hardy

    @Lis Franc: Where did you hear he’s going to the Yanks? Where are they playing him?

  101. Wilsonian says:

    @Lis Franc: Cubs beat writer said that’s not his Twitter account.

  102. xopchipili says:

    christ almighty, Napoli went 4-5 yesterday and has a 1.297 OPS for July, what the heck does this guy need to do to get to play every day?

  103. Joe Mama says:

    10 team, H2H league was just offered Han Ram and a 10th round pick for next season for Andrus and a 6th round pick for next season. Thoughts?

  104. drew says:

    Start King Felix tomorrow @Yankees?

  105. Wilsonian says:

    @xopchipili: apparently he has a penchant for banging managers’ wives…or something along those lines…

  106. Eddy says:

    Gomes to the Nats for a couple of minor leaguers.

  107. Eddy says:


    And as a result, Yonder Alonso was called up.

  108. xopchipili says:

    and Yonder Alonso called up

  109. Feeding the Abscess

    Feeding the Abscess says:

    I should have trusted my instincts that Hanson was due for a correction. .243 BABIP or whatever he had a few starts ago wasn’t sustainable. Ugh

  110. Awesomus Maximus

    Awesomus Maximus says:

    @Steve: Are all RCLs the same number of teams? If so, how many? Mixed league? Roto? ESPN? Same settings (e.g. trades up for league vote)?

    @Wilsonian: I know exactly what you mean… so annoying. Drop me an email (kwalter at gmail dot com) if you might be interested in the league I’m talking about for 2012.

    @BILLY JACK: That seems fishy, at best. Same as above… email me if you’re interested in a dynasty league starting next year, quality owners only.

    @Grey: My apologies if I’m overstepping my bounds. I don’t plan on using the comments to look for owners. Just figured I’d post my info this one time since it was a natural part of the conversation.

  111. Steve says:

    Awesomus – they’re 12 team mixed roto at espn. Not sure on trade vote process. Never been an issue in our league. Like-minded people and all that.

  112. debar says:

    @grey: jhoulys/stubbs too much for greinke? jennings would take over for stubbs. im worried about jhoulys being limited at the end of the year and even if not, not sure he’ll be as good as he was earlier in the year.

  113. Oilcan Giuseppe says:

    Grey:are you worried about Hommy?….coming off two bad starts in a row and down early 3-0 to Pitts.

    also,10 team 8×8 h2h keeper,would you consider Gordon and Valverde a fair offer for him?

  114. Awesomus Maximus

    Awesomus Maximus says:

    @Steve: Thanks for the info. Sounds good. If I can’t get my own thang goin’ I (along with my two close buddies in my current league) will slide into an RCL for sure.

  115. Steve says:

    F*** you Narveson.

  116. VinWins

    VinWins says:

    Jose Bautista HPB – head. Leaves game.

  117. Feeding the Abscess

    Feeding the Abscess says:

    Wonder if that HBP on Bautista will ruin his career like it did Sosa. Sosa was beaned in the head at some point, his numbers took a drastic turn for the worse at that point and never recovered.

    I always wonder if a player is going to fall apart after getting hit in the head. Kind of human nature I guess.

  118. AL KOHOLIC says:

    @Steve: the way my hitters are sucking,ive dropped 10 points in 5 days in our league,

  119. Dad says:

    @Grey: Faraway Alonso is finally here! Would you drop Brandon Allen for him or is it tomato tomahto?

  120. AL KOHOLIC says:

    steve what you said about narvelson but insert morrow

  121. royce! says:

    @Steve: Finally we agree on something!

  122. Maester Aemon says:



    Just pulled a trade (our deadline is 8/5) and would like to know what you think I should do. League is 5×5 cats (meow) where pitching has been amended to lose WHIP and add HOLDS. 16 Team, Dynasty keeper where you keep all players but they hold out and contracts advance, and a complex FA system that’s too messy to go into here…so let’s look at talent alone.

    Trade was Masterson/Ike Davis/Viciedo/Harper (we have 5 minor league spots to use on our rosters)



    So lineup sits now at:
    (Bench is Posey, Rasmus, Victorino as keepers and Loney, Infante, Theriot as filler fodder)

    Rotation (4sp/4rp)
    (Bench is Cobb, Floyd, Lamb, Morton, Pauley)

    Would you move much from this roster (offers coming for Shields/Billingsley/Holliday/Quentin already) for prospects like Dom Brown/Trayvon Robinson/etc etc or would you have another recommendation?

    My team has SUCKED this year (again) and I want to start competing in this league, it’s fun but not really being on the backside of the glory hole for the rest of the teams to enjoy weekly without regret,

  123. Feeding the Abscess

    Feeding the Abscess says:

    Hmm… I could drop Blanks for Derrek Lee. I kinda have to do that, don’t I?

  124. Grey

    Grey says:

    @Maester Aemon: Your outfield is way too deep for what looks like a 3 OF league. If you’re not playing all of those guys, trade them. Not even sure the point of Victorino and Holliday in that trade. Though you did get the better side. Fix your 3rd base spot with your excess OFs.

    @Feeding the Abscess: Yeah

  125. Maester Aemon says:

    @Grey : Thanks, I was proposed the offer “as-is” and took it…figured I would try to parry off the depth…

    Spurring that on, keeping three (or four) of the OF’s in the dynasty league, who would you be moving out of Holliday/Victorino/Ethier/Rasmus/Quentin

    Appreciate it, and I appreciate your ‘stache…

  126. SwaggerJackers says:

    I need someone productive in my 12 team H2H at my corner. Who are the best two out of Dunn, Moose, Blanks, Allen and Yonder?

  127. GTG says:

    If Chone Figgins was a dog, his owner would put him down — poor guy obviously needs to be put out of his (and our) misery.

  128. Fletch says:

    Can Man-Crush out perform what CC did tonight…we shall see.

  129. McBainus says:

    @Grey: Somebody is offering me Morse and Kershaw for A-Gon and Dempster. Take it?

  130. AdamH says:

    Who wins in a keeper league?

    Stubbs/Hanson for Utley/Gio

  131. Fletch says:

    @Grey: Guerra, Salas or Axford?

  132. herschel says:

    did something happen to mccann? why was he replaced???

  133. herschel says:


    Brian McCann left Tuesday’s game in the 10th inning with a possible back injury.
    McCann appeared to tweak his back when he tried to throw out Neil Walker trying to steal but sailed the ball into center field. We’ll update his condition when more is known, but he figures to miss at least a couple games. He was replaced by David Ross.

  134. Steve says:

    Moseley or McCarthy? Of course I went Moseley.

  135. Fletch says:

    Please rank Niemann, Jimenez & Kuroda for ROS?

  136. AdamH says:

    Follow up to my previous question: Do you think Stubbs will be a keeper by end of season? 12 team league, we keep 5.

  137. Awesomus Maximus

    Awesomus Maximus says:

    For not having a starting job, The Federalist sure does start a lot of games. With Holliday’s upset tummy, Berkman’s hurt/not hurt/hurt shoulder, and Rasmus possibly leaving town, I fired Blanks and said “H-I, Jay! K?” Would have liked to cut Kyle some more slack, but you know it’s time to drop a guy when you’re kinda’ glad to see him not starting because at least he won’t be raising your team’s K total.

  138. Chris says:

    Better 2 start option next week:

    Fister vs OAK, @ ANA
    Maholm vs CHC, vs SD

  139. Wilsonian says:

    Kelly Jo or Espinosa?

  140. EK says:

    Nicasio @ SD


    McCarthy vs MIN

    and better option for ROS?

  141. Flunkie says:

    Which side do you like of these trades in a keeper:

    1. Cliff Lee and Neftali Feliz for Prince Fielder
    2. Cliff Lee for Hunter Pence

  142. Awesomus Maximus

    Awesomus Maximus says:

    @Chris: Doesn’t one guy play for a team that (literally) can’t win a game, while the other plays for a team in the midst of a heated pennant race? I’m no ‘pert, but that seems like a bro nainer.

  143. Wilsonian says:

    @Grey: if I dropped Espinosa for Johnson, would you then make a waiver claim on Cuddyer dropping Johnson? Or would you drop one of your arms out of this pitching staff:

    SP – Verlander
    SP – Lincecum
    SP – Hamels
    RP – Walden
    RP – Santos
    P – Nathan
    P – Guerra
    P – D. Hudson
    BN – Morrow
    BN – Anibal
    BN – Beachy
    DL – Strasburg

    Thanks for the advice, as usual.

  144. Grey

    Grey says:

    @Wilsonian: I wouldn’t drop a pitcher for a bench bat. I’d just play Johnson until Espinosa starts hitting again.

  145. Steve says:

    I know McCarthy was at home but couldn’t see the As scoring against Price. And the Padres had been hitting well…

  146. herschel says:

    @Grey: once he returns from the dl, who do you like between span and bernadina in roto?

  147. Wilsonian says:

    @Grey: I’d have to drop Espinosa to pick up Johnson, though. So would you recommend doing that, or drop someone else for him?

  148. Awesomus Maximus

    Awesomus Maximus says:

    Brian McCann suffered a strained left oblique and will be placed on the 15-day disabled list Wednesday.

  149. chata says:

    ” They was CHEATED “

  150. Terrence Mann says:

    @chata: wtf was that? Just when I was beginning to think they’re charmed….

  151. chata says:

    @Terrence Mann:

    don’t give up on the magical season , yet .
    it’s the feel good story of the year .

    in february , i predicted that the pirates would finish ahead of houston
    and the cubs (they were 17.5 games behind next to last place in the
    division , last year !)
    but i would never have expected this , especially considering their
    pitching staff .

    but it was not the pitching staff that cost them this game ,
    it was the umpire .
    perhaps he had helped himself to excess at the pre-game buffet ,
    and his body was telling him it was time to go .
    that call certainly pegged him as a man full of shizz .

  152. stynyr says:

    Is Edwin Jackson worth picking up now that he’s in the NL?

    Also, I didn’t realize I couldn’t drop a DL guy and pick up a DL guy in his place. Who do I drop and hopefully pick back up (if he makes it through waivers) to grab Wainwright?

    Collmenter, Luebke, Niese, Stauffer.


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