Yesterday, I went over the top 10 for 2018 fantasy baseball.  Today, I throw out preconceived notions, drink some potions and lather up my body with lotions as I sloppily slip and slide my way through the most precarious top 20 for fantasy baseball I’ve ever encountered.  This top twenty is a blind man playing Twister.  Half the time, I’m grabbing for things not knowing if they’re there or not.  I legit think this top 20 could go countless other ways.  Is countless a widowed Countess?  No, it’s not, it’s a confusing AF top 20 for fantasy baseball.  Last year, I ranked no starters in the top 20.  This year I decided to rank one so low you’d never draft him.  If you want to bemoan my low ranking of one starter, then bemoan away.  Just remember, a bemoaner sounds a bit to me like “U be a boner.”   All the positional rankings will live under the 2018 fantasy baseball rankings.  Anyway, here’s the top 20 for 2018 fantasy baseball:

11. Francisco Lindor – This tier started in the top 10 for 2018 fantasy baseball.  I called this tier, “ADP says what?”  This tier ends at Rizzo.  Last year Lindor went 33/15/.273 and now he’s 24 years old.  Yup, no place for him to go.  Only down.  He’s done.  Put a fork in him.  Not in his eye, you sicko.  Poke the fork in his thigh or something.  I mean, you’re trying to hurt him but not seriously injure the guy.  Glad the Lindor party is over, makes that easy.  So, how was your winter?  Get anything good for Christmas?  Make any new friends?  File any sexual assault charges?  WAIT A SECOND!  The Lindor party is not over!  Holy crap, this is the biggest comeback since Joey Fatone’s star redefining tour de force on Dancing with the Stars!  Wow, Lindor was over for five even six sentences, and then, bam, right back.  Crazy.  Honestly, I can’t even figure out why Lindor’s being under drafted in leagues I’ve seen so far.  He’s a top 12 player if I’ve ever seen one.  And, let me tell you, you old so-and-so, I’ve seen one!  His HR/FB% was 14%, far from ridiculous.  He didn’t hit his homers very far (397 feet on average), but he upped his fly balls and hard contact.  He also pulls a decent amount and, if you’ve ever watched him, he can Major Lazer a baseball just over any fence.  Maybe his power comes down to 27 HRs, but he’s more of a 15-20 steal guy vs. a 10-15 steal guy.  Also, his BABIP was low last year, and is closer to a .290-.305 hitter.  27/17/.295 in the middle of a lineup with room for upside is not good?  C’mon, man, don’t answer that, it was rhetorical!  2018 Projections:  112/27/81/.294/17 in 601 ABs

12. Freddie Freeman – A fluke injury — not a hirame injury, which is when a sushi chef cuts himself slicing a white-fleshed fish — to his left wrist sidelined Freeman for fifty games, and then, when he returned, he said shizz was only at 80-85%.  When a player says something is 80-85%, it’s around 60-65%.  The good news is he still hit 9 HRs in August and September, and now has an entire offseason to get right with his, uh, left wrist.  Prior to the injury, he had 16 HRs and a .348 average in 161 ABs.  Ya know, the ol’ 40-homer, .320 pace, which, if 100% healthy, isn’t too far off from what I’d expect.  Health brings some risk, but with no risk comes no power, to mangle a Spider-Man quote.  To make Spider-Man passive aggressive, “With great power comes great responsibility, so good luck meeting those expectations.”  2018 Projections:  93/35/103/.308/8 in 577 ABs

13. Jose Ramirez – Confession Alert!  I only ranked Jo-Ram 13th instead of 12th because I wanted to separate the two Indians.  Man, that sounds awful out of context.  Your friend, “Why did you move Nadel Patel to the biochemical engineering department across the office complex?”  You after reading my post, “I wanted to separate the two Indians.”  Your friend, “You’re racist.”  You after reading my post, “That’s the best comeback since Joey Fatone’s star redefining tour de force on Dancing with the Stars.”  Your friend, “Well, you do have good taste in the Cha-Cha Slide.”  Weird thing happened during the season of seventeen after twenty, I began to love the fudge out of Jose Ramirez.  Indians must’ve felt the same way because he was moved into the three hole and never looked back.  Are you sure he didn’t look back because he had a crick in his neck?  Quiet, Random Italicized Voice.  Jo-Ram was similar to Lindor in his average footage on homers, but Altuve doesn’t hit moon rockets either, so I’m gonna put that info right here…*opens garbage chute, places home run feet data in, can’t shut chute door, leaves*  “Hey, did you just clog the garbage chute?”  “Not me!”  *runs*  Ramirez also pulls the ball and can drop a badonkadonk like a Cardi B twerk if he needs to.  Ramirez is .315 hitter, with speed and power and that’s not evaporating in his age 25 season.  He’s top ten for best swinging strike percentage, and makes the 15th best contact with pitches inside the strike zone.  That tells me, he knows when to swing, and doesn’t miss his pitch.  In an age of strikeouts, he doesn’t.  He was the 4th lowest for strikeouts, Mookie Betts was 6th, Votto was 9th and Altuve was 12th.  If Bad Company’s number one song was Bad Company (how’d they come up with that name?), Jose Ramirez’s band would be named Is In Good Company with the song, Is In Good Company.  2018 Projections:  101/25/91/.315/21 in 577 ABs

14. Anthony Rizzo – The epitome of this tier of, “ADP says what?”  Actually, for Rizzo, it’s more like “ADP says whaaaaaaaaaat?”  Do you think Rizzo is capable of 99/32/109/.273/10?  No?  That’s weird, because that’s exactly what he did last year.  I guess .273 is a little low, but he also had a .273 BABIP, which is a bit low for him, so he’s more of a .285 hitter.  Also, backing this up, he lowered his strikeouts from 16% to 13% and raised his walks from 10.9% to 13.2%, while maintaining nearly identical line drive rates, hard contact rates and spray charts.  I’d put Rizzo on a list of about five guys who have a better than 5 to 1 odds to win NL MVP.  Of course, the Cubs help, and his lineup and HE HAS 2ND BASE ELIGIBILITY!  This is the biggest crock of shizz.  This is a crockpot filled with shizz that is on low for eight hours while you take a shizz for eight hours in the bathroom.  There’s literally two craps being had for an eight-hour period simultaneously to metaphorically illustrate how stupid it is Rizzo has 2nd base eligibility.  That’s what a crock it is!  He didn’t play 2nd base, he switched gloves, you maniacs!  So, if Schwarber takes his catcher’s glove to the outfield, he’s a catcher?  Is he?!  Okay, I’m getting the taste of blood in my mouth from my bleeding ulcer and need to move on.  2018 Projections: 101/34/112/.283/9 in 581 ABs

15. J.D. Martinez – This is a new tier.  This tier goes from here until Bellinger.  I call this tier, “Want some limbs, here take my arm.”  Brucely, I’m being honest with you.  There’s risk with these guys.  I like these guys a lot.  More than most people, but are they completely solid bets for certain stats?  Um, maybe, prolly — prollbe?  If you tell me Just Dong, Bellinger or Springer are solid bets, I’m gonna call you a liar, then we will be wrasslin’ because you won’t like me calling you a liar, and I won’t like you not accepting my nickname for you, Liarry McLiarface.  As for J.D., I went over him when he signed this offseason– Kidding!  Nothing happened this offseason!  Here’s what I would’ve said, had he signed somewhere, “Sure, going to Chase Field for half a season in a walk year is like having some half-baked rhymes and getting to work with Dr. Dre.  You can throw out there a line like, “You think I’m being a cock with my rhyme, but I think chickens keep the thyme,” and that shizz goes triple-platinum even though no one but seventeen hipsters in Brooklyn buy albums anymore.  What do call a millennial that says ‘Bedford-Thighvethant?’  A lispster.  Take it, Highlights, it’s yours.  Being in Chase for half a season in his walk year was like being a nobody-nothing who is working an assistant job cleaning out potted plants that Weinstein just irrigated, then finding out you have a high count of midichlorians in your blood and you’re mothereffin’ Frank Skywalker, Luke’s other kid.  And you’re not Frank Skywalker like Frank Stallone, but you have some real qualities to add to the mythology.  That’s J.D.’s last year.  However (Grey’s turning the ship around?), J.D.’s able to hit wherever he’s played.  His home/away splits in his career are better at home, but everyone’s are.  It’s just easier to hit at home because you’re sleeping in your house, you don’t need to travel, you don’t have to tell the hotel’s front desk to please tell Archie Bradley’s room to be quiet.  Road scholars are rare, and are a little weird anyway.  Only thing stopping Just Dong, and what has also stopped him in the past is his health.  Other than subtracting 75 ABs from the bottom line, there’s not much we can do with that, i.e., I love J.D. but there’s injury risk.”  And that’s me hypothetically quoting me!  When he signs somewhere, I might change his stats and rankings a little, but as I said, he’s pretty much who he is at this point, unless he signs to play in Coors, Petco or Japan.  UPDATE:  As I said in the above blurb, Just Dong is who he is, and Fenway’s gonna be a lovely place for him to just, uh, dong.  2018 Projections: 91/36/109/.284/4 in 505 ABs

16. George Springer – I didn’t rank Carlos Correa in the top 20.  Let’s get that out of the way right up front.  Well, up front after 2400 words.  Are people ranking Correa in the top 20 (sometimes in the top 15) because they think it will reflect favorably on them when Kimberley Jong-un goes nu-cu-lar?  I don’t know.  I’m also not sure what to do with Springer.  Talk show audience chants, “Jerry!  Jerry!  Jerry!”  Wrong Springer, guys.  Last year, Springer stole five bags in 12 attempts.  *stifling a laugh*  Well, at least he’s trying, right?  The previous year he stole nine bags in 19 attempts.  Are we sure the Astros don’t have a hole of quicksand next to 1st base?  On one hand, we know Springer is going to try to steal.  On the other hand, he’s likely going to get caught a lot.  On a third hand that is Hamburger Helper, he’s still going to give you a lot of other stats.  Springer had 34 HRs in a season where he missed nearly a month, hit .283 average, cut his strikeouts from 23.9% to 17.6% and is atop a great lineup.  The steals have more question marks than Riddler’s leotards, but everything else should be solid.  2018 Projections: 116/35/84/.281/8 in 611 ABs

17. Cody Bellinger – Yes, I’m ranking him over Aaron Judge.  You got it, over Correa.  You’re seeing correctly, over Kershaw.  Yes, over Sale.  Yup, no Donaldson.  If I get to pick 17 and Bellinger is available, I will literally (not literally) jump out the window in enthusiasm.  He missed nearly a month of the season and still hit 39 HRs and stole 10 bags with a .267 average.  Sure, the Ks weren’t great, but he looks like Joe DiMaggio for strikeouts when you compare him to Aaron Judge.  Bellinger wasn’t even bottom 15 for strikeout rate with 26.6%.  He also had the 28th best walk rate, in a season he started at the age of 21.  Are you kidding me?  Seriously, are you effin’ kidding me?  How is someone like, say, Correa going before Bellinger?  Not to sound like a pissed off Native American, but HOW!  Bellinger was 5th in the majors in ISO.  The top four:  Giancarlo, Judge, Gallo and Trout.  Oh.  *reads War and Peace*  Kay.  And please don’t say, but uh, uh, uh, in the postseason, Bellinger didn’t look good.  If anyone should know about small sample sizes, it’s you.  2018 Projections:  101/35/109/.265/12 in 561 ABs

18. Charlie Blackmon – This is a new tier, and final tier of the top 20 for 2018 fantasy baseball.  All positions will be found in the 2018 fantasy baseball rankings.  I call this tier, “Chuck Berry, if his cousin Marvin Berry never called him to introduce him to rock and roll.”  By the tier name, I mean you’re likely getting relatively the same as last year, if you don’t believe in fictitious anecdotes from a Robert Zemeckis movie.   But if you do believe in the Power of Love, and/or McFly and think there’s something to my anecdotal concerns, you’ll avoid these guys.  As for Chazz Noir, his last year numbers were 137/37/104/.331/14 as he was the top ranked player for all of fantasy.  Um, yeah, those numbers are goofy with goofballs.  Once in a career a guy has numbers like that, even with Coors.  If you want perfs and you’re not talking short for perfume, and you don’t mean the cologne, Chazz Darkkar, his Ks went up, his HR/FB% was high for him, his line drives were down, his contact went down, his first strike swinging went up, and he’s turning 32 years old in July as his steals continue to slide down to the 10-ish range.  Coors helps alleviate some concerns, but not this many.  I’m going with McFly being a difference maker, and avoiding.  2018 Projections:  107/24/71/.289/15 in 597 ABs

19. Joey Votto – With Rizzo and Votto at 1st base, Freddie Freeman should change his name to Fredo Paisano to keep the Italian-American theme going.  I don’t even want to say what the Italian 1st basemen would call Charlie Blackmon.  So, Votto, whatcha done lately?  Last year he hit .320.  Okay, but what did you hit the year before?  .326.  Okay, okay, OKAY, but the year before?  .314.  Joey Roboto has spray charts the execs at Aqua Net would be jelly of.  Infield pop-ups are the worst contact a hitter can make.  Know how many times Roboto has popped up to an infielder in 11 years?  16 times.  Todd Frazier did it 31 times last year.  Sure, Todd Frazier sucks.  Fair enough.  In a shortened season, Mike Trout hit 14 infield pop-ups last year.  Only two less than Votto in his career!  At one point, Votto pulled only one ball into the stands on a foul in…Know how long?  C’mon, guess how long it took Votto to pull one pitch into the stands.  He pulled one ball into the stands in two years!   In 25 years, people are still going to be talking about Votto.  So, Votto is Roboto because he’s the rock of rocks of consistency, but then put him in a tier with McFlys? (McFlies, McFlii?)  Votto is kinda like the Poseys of 1st basemen.  He gets my real, earned baseball respect, but he’s inflated for fantasy.  2018 Projections:  99/28/95/.317/4 in 546 ABs

20. Max Scherzer – Before you say, “Grey, you’re handsome AF, and super smart.  You rub-a-dub places I thought only ladies could rub and/or dub.  Yet, you say you’d never draft a starter in the top 20, but you’ve ranked Scherzer in the top 20.  Should I not draft Scherzer if he’s available?  Thank you for your time, you are a real pleasure.”  This always drives me crazy.  Not the compliments, those are nice.  You ask if you should draft (fill-in player name) if he’s available, because I have him ranked around where he’s going.  If you’re following my rankings, Rizzo, Jo-Ram, Lindor, Trea, Bryant, Springer, J.D., Bellinger and Freeman are ranked higher than their ADP and where others are ranking them (for the most part; there’s exceptions, obviously).  So how on earth did you get to pick 20, and have no one else available to you but Scherzer?  Are you in a league with eleven me’s?  Otherwise, there’s guys to draft I like more than Scherzer available.  A companion piece to this question is the guy (and, let’s be honest, it’s always a guy), who says, “Only players available were Scherzer and Freeman and I didn’t want to draft Freeman, so I went with Scherzer.”  So, you don’t want to listen to me on who to draft for Freeman but you want me to say it’s okay to draft a guy I’ve ranked later who I’ve said not to draft?  Okay…*places traffic cone on head, kneels down in driver’s ed course, gets slammed by pimple-faced teenager*  So, why even rank Scherzer 20th overall if I wouldn’t draft him here?  I gotta rank him somewhere!  What, I’m gonna rank him 450th overall by Jarrod Saltymochachino?  As for Scherzer, doode’s a mixed-eye dynamo.  Last year, his K/9 was 12 with a 2.5 BB/9 and 2.51 ERA.  His 3.28 xFIP was a bit high, but he always throws 200 IP and his team could easily set him up to win 20 games.  Last year, he had a 30 pitch value on his slider.  The likes of which we have not seen since Randy Johnson.  By the way, in Vegas, I was at a urinal and there’s a crazy tall guy next me, so I look up and it’s Randy Johnson.  I immediately blurt out, “Hey, it’s the Big Unit!”  Not what you wanna say at a urinal.  Awkward.  2018 Projections:  18-7/2.46/0.94/277 in 222 IP

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apoopaday
apoopaday
4 years ago

We keep only 3 (based on last years draft) out of 22 players, is it better to keep guys like Lindor 3rd/Trea 2nd who are high round talent? Or go for value keepers like Severino 10th/Greinke 9th

Can’t really decide what’s the best way to do things since we get to keep so little

apoopaday
apoopaday
Reply to  Grey
4 years ago

@Grey: Its 12 team. Also got Harper at 1 and Dee Gordon at 7. Think I should just keep my first 3 picks? I was thinking of keepin at least 1 of Sev/Greinke which gives me a lot of value

apoopaday
apoopaday
Reply to  Grey
4 years ago

@Grey: I guess you’d keep the top 3 hitters. I may be biased cuz I basically won last year with pitchers n steals. Thanks for the feedback Grey

Puddle Stomp
Puddle Stomp
4 years ago

This will be my rookie season so this is probably a stupid question (my favourite prelude to a question), why do you suggest avoiding starters in the top-20? Are you pro-streaming?

I’m coming from fantasy basketball where managers frequently “punt” categories, is there a similar concept in baseball? Do you recommend basic value drafting instead (based on the above rankings, of course)?

kingforaday151
kingforaday151
4 years ago

I’m a ten team, ten keeper league…..rizzo, bellinger, altuve, bryant, bregman, correa, turner, ozuna, benintendi as 9 solid keepers in my opinion. Ray, hendricks, nelson, berrios, trillion are best pitchers I have. Also have Contreras as catcher, but hate to keep a catcher. Thoughts?

Bbboston
Bbboston
4 years ago

Grey;

One free agent that doesn’t seem to get any attention, at all: Ben Revere

Now maybe I’m jaded, but I see a guy with solid BA/Steals that should be an attractive lead-off batter.

Thoughts?

Bbboston
Bbboston
Reply to  Bbboston
4 years ago

@Bbboston:

Ps: sorry for the off-topic question

votto-voom
votto-voom
4 years ago

I didn’t have time to go back through archives, someone help me. Did Grey write a new piece on Bellinger, or did he copy and paste last year’s Trevor Story write up that sent me to 9 months of grief counseling?

Q
Q
4 years ago

Oh by the way, these first few posts (and the random argumentative types) remind me of the guy a few years ago who said your rankings didn’t matter because you hadn’t won Tout or LABR.

You think that guy will show up to take his medicine or nah? TOUTWINNER!!!

Q
Q
4 years ago

My favorite thing about your top 20 is that I can almost always get 3 of them! It feels so good.

It doesn’t always end up feeling good (Odor, Story)….but when it DOES (Goldy a few years ago)…..it’s just glorious.

Looking forward to Catchers…..for the writing, not the players. Mad props, yo.

Nick the Smooth Dick
Nick the Smooth Dick
4 years ago

Please rank:
The Return of the Jedi
The Return of the Mack by Mark Morrison
The return of Roseanne
A return of Rafael Palmeiro
The return of Nick the smooth dick

Nick the Smooth Dick
Nick the Smooth Dick
Reply to  Grey
4 years ago

@Grey: Softball Kimmy question. Hell, I would take returning a shirt for spite over a Roseanne revamp….how are things buddy? I’ve been here reading, just Dig Dug style

Nick the Smooth Dick
Nick the Smooth Dick
Reply to  Grey
4 years ago

@Grey: Snap! I wouldn’t have faulted you, shit still jams…things are good. Steady Crabbin’, steady mobbin’

Nick the Smooth Dick
Nick the Smooth Dick
Reply to  Grey
4 years ago

@Grey: I’m digging the move to Fantrax for RCLs, Big T Wags is hooking things up over there

Nick the Smooth Dick
Nick the Smooth Dick
Reply to  Grey
4 years ago

@Grey: Word up, Razzball got my phone and my house tapped, praying that I fall for the mousetrap, I doubt that

The Great Knoche
The Great Knoche
Reply to  Nick the Smooth Dick
4 years ago

@Nick the Smooth Dick: Welcome back….Dick!

Nick the Smooth Dick
Nick the Smooth Dick
Reply to  The Great Knoche
4 years ago

@The Great Knoche: Hey GK!

Dr. Kenneth Noisewater
Dr. Kenneth Noisewater
Reply to  Nick the Smooth Dick
4 years ago
Nick the Smooth Dick
Nick the Smooth Dick
Reply to  Dr. Kenneth Noisewater
4 years ago

@Dr. Kenneth Noisewater: Oh Noise, my sweet glorious bearded friend

Duda Want to Build a Snowman?
Duda Want to Build a Snowman?
4 years ago

The JD offers keep comin! Which side do you like in a $21 Freeman v. $13 JDM ? (Keep forever, +$3 annually)

Duda Want to Build a Snowman?
Duda Want to Build a Snowman?
Reply to  Grey
4 years ago

@Grey: thanks!

JP
JP
4 years ago

Grey-just a general question having nothing to do with top 20. What are you thoughts on Jordan Montgomery $5 and Andrelton Simmons $8 in a 12 team AL only 4×4, wins, saves, whip era and home runs, rbi, stolen bases, and avg. thank you Grey!

Ben
Ben
4 years ago

I want to love Bellinger. I have a lingering worry that he’s Trevor Story. What has you less worried? Pedigree? Infield pop up rate? K rate? Your gut?

Thanks!

Ben
Ben
Reply to  Grey
4 years ago

@Grey:

I like it! Color me convinced.

El Marco
El Marco
Reply to  Grey
4 years ago

@Grey: fact of the day!!

Matt
Matt
4 years ago

Gotta argue against your call to leave Correa out of the top 20. The kid is coming into his prime and will be a superstar. He was down last year and still had a great year. When he has a great season, and it’s coming soon, he’s going to be a top 5 player. You’re missing the boat. I’m all over him this year.

Sweatpants Nation
Sweatpants Nation
4 years ago

Great work as usual.
Lots of talent in the next ten (21-30) too that a few of them will put up top 20 numbers. Top 10 was solid and will be tough to crack but it’s easy to see some in top 20 being replaced by years end. Lots of these rankngs/picks come down to preference and to a degree league settings. They aren’t gospel but a guide. I think some who question these rankings may have come late to the Razzball table so maybe there are trust issues but my observation over the years is that Grey rarely misses and it’s usually only when he falls in love with a guy (Rutledge, DeShizz, Odor…) who doesn’t pan out.
Looking forward to Catchers! (ok, maybe not worth an exclamation mark)

The Harrow
The Harrow
Reply to  Sweatpants Nation
4 years ago

@Sweatpants Nation: that list of 3 guys just “happened” to have like the worst BABIP’s for all the years in question. delino was fine last year when he was actually allowed to have at bats. rutledge lost his playing time while having the literal worst BABIP in the entire league during the year in question. delino’s was bottom 3 at least in his year in question. odor got almost exactly the HR and steals grey projected him for, BABIP luck sunk his AVG down, and thus counting stats.

tony
tony
4 years ago

hi grey, thanks for your post, great as always.

correa question here,

correa missing the top 20 is more a background thing, than upside issue?

i meam, hes got the talent to be in the top 20, dont you think?

Cranky Shell
Cranky Shell
Reply to  Grey
4 years ago

@Grey: headed for 27 homers? he hit 24 in 109 games. Prorated over 162 games it’d be 36 homers, unless I’m missing something?

Cranky Shell
Cranky Shell
Reply to  Grey
4 years ago

@Grey: I agree, a straight prorate can be ignorant. He just feel like a 35 homer guy to me with like a 900 OPS. But, maybe not quite yet (at least until he does it). I can definitely see the case for Correa outside the top 20 this year but I think his potential is huge.

a
a
4 years ago

I don’t think it is that people aren’t appreciative, it is more like we want to have our opinion heard also so we can have discourse regarding some of the rankings. That’s it. It is not like we are saying “we are the expert over him”, more like we just we are curious behind some of the rankingss

The Harrow
The Harrow
Reply to  a
4 years ago

@a: there’s this thing called being critical and/or curious and there’s this other thing called being a giant asshole. while they could overlap they certainly don’t have to. pretty clear that saying ralph “doesn’t follow baseball or have any idea what he’s talking about” or that grey “is a clown” is simply a version of the latter.

El Marco
El Marco
4 years ago

I’m with you on Correa. Have him at 23 next to Seager. Machado could slide into the lower tier as I just saw he’s going around 18!

Also I had same ranking for Machado, Rizzo, Freeman, and Bellinger, but I whiffed on Ramirez. After looking, me likey

Roar0f84
Roar0f84
4 years ago

Somewhat of a follow up on a question that I posed to you yesterday…

In my 10-team keeper league (each team keeps 6 players with no repercussions) with roto scoring and weekly h2h matchups, I just moved Blackmon and Encarnacion (who I wasn’t keeping anyway) for Bellinger. I did primarily to get a bit younger and increase my power output. Good move?

My “sure thing” keepers, at the moment, are looking to be Arenado, Bryant, Correa, Bellinger, and Kershaw. I’m trying to decide between Abreu, Sano, deGrom, and C-Mart.

Alex
Alex
4 years ago

16 team league get to keep 4. Have turner, Harper, betts, Kershaw, and j ram. Should this be the year I don’t keep kershaw and keep j ram? Can keep the guys forever

Scott Kimmel
Scott Kimmel
4 years ago

Hey Grey,

He decided to hold on to Taillon because he has a surplus of OF and needs pitching. I need a 1B, I only have Votto, Bellinger, Posey (my everyday C), I should be getting Morales (DH) and Thames. I am talking to someone about a McCutchen/Freeman deal. What do you think? Should I make that offer? If he says yes to it then I wont need Thames right?

Scott Kimmel
Scott Kimmel
Reply to  Grey
4 years ago

SO you say trade McCutchen for Freeman?

Scott Kimmel
Scott Kimmel
Reply to  Grey
4 years ago

He wants McCutchen and either Glyber Torres or Nick Senzel for Freeman. I offered Cutch and Magnarrius Sierra

Scott Kimmel
Scott Kimmel
Reply to  Grey
4 years ago

said no to that

Scott Kimmel
Scott Kimmel
Reply to  Grey
4 years ago

Is Bellinger going to be the everyday 1B?

Scott Kimmel
Scott Kimmel
Reply to  Grey
4 years ago

@Grey: Then I don’t need Freeman then

Scott Kimmel
Scott Kimmel
Reply to  Scott Kimmel
4 years ago

what do you think i would have to give up to get Acuna?

Scott Kimmel
Scott Kimmel
Reply to  Scott Kimmel
4 years ago

DO you think Charlie Morton, Chris Devenski and Magnerius Sierra for Acuna and Fowler is a fair offer ?

Scott Kimmel
Scott Kimmel
Reply to  Grey
4 years ago

he asked originally for Carrasco.

Scott Kimmel
Scott Kimmel
Reply to  Scott Kimmel
4 years ago

I know its alot. Thats why I offering Morton, either Devenski or Shaw and the minor leaguer Sierra and a 15th round pick in 2019 for Acuna, Fowler and a 1st round pick in 2019

Scott Kimmel
Scott Kimmel
Reply to  Scott Kimmel
4 years ago

these are the two offers I want to make him. Which one should I offer first?

Offer 1: Lester, Shaw, Sierra and a 10th round pick in 2019 for Acuna Fowler and a 1st rounder in 2019.

Offer 2: Morton, Shaw, Sierra, the 10th in 2019 for Acuna, Fowler, and the 1st rounder in 2019

Scott Kimmel
Scott Kimmel
Reply to  Scott Kimmel
4 years ago

if he says no to offer 2, is offer 1 more than fair?

Scott Kimmel
Scott Kimmel
Reply to  Scott Kimmel
4 years ago

I told him if he accepts Offer 2 with Morton i would take his 2nd round pick in the deal instead of a 1st rounder, but if he accepts offer 1 with Lester, I would want his 1st rounder next year

Jeff Jaffee
Jeff Jaffee
4 years ago

I cannot print your brilliant analysis without weird huge icons covering your classic prose. What’s the deal with the website? JJ

swaggerjackers
swaggerjackers
Reply to  Grey
4 years ago

@Grey: I think he’s saying he’s trying to print this webpage and it doesn’t look good. I just did a print preview in Chrome and can confirm it looks strange with images and other elements overlapping the main writeup.

Then again, why would anyone print this?

ERad
ERad
4 years ago

I gotta get an avatar this year me thinks

Finally coming back around to fantasy baseball, was up 24 games in my H2H league last year with 5 weeks to go, and lost the $600 first place payout by 1/2 game. Then lost another $600 to the same team in the finals 6-5.

It’s like yeah man I love fantasy baseball but at the same time, could I be doing something better with my time? Probably not.

Little bit of a keeper dilemma this year – can only keep 4:

Harper (1st round)
Altuve (7th round)
Rizzo (9th round)
Jose Ramirez (15th round)
Aaron Judge (24th round)

Based on value alone, it seems like Harper is the one to get tossed back in the pool, but I love his hair – whatcha think?

Oppo Taco
Oppo Taco
4 years ago

Need 8 keepers for a 5×5 roto league. There’s no cost associated with the players. Who ya got? Good to be back! Need 8 of : Goldy, Rizzo, Trea Turner, Corey Seager, J up, Bumgarner, McCullers, Kenley, Bregman, Hoskins, Verlander, Berrios, Wood.

Thanks!

sport
sport
4 years ago

Based on early ADP’s, I should need up with Lindor, Ramirez, Freeman, or Rizzo in the second round of 12 team redrafts. Would love to see JD, Springer, Bellinger slip into the third!

Thanks for the top 20 and onto the catchers!

G
G
4 years ago

Grey,

Glad to be back to posting. Was surprised with Correa missing but always trust your opinion. Does that mean in a keeper you would trade Correa for Bellinger straight up if they can be kept for relatively same value?

Jon Strayer
Jon Strayer
4 years ago

5 x 5 Roto (R, RBI, SB, OBP, SLG; standard pitching) – Pick 8 keepers

Harper
Rizzo
Votto
Abreu
Gordon
Dozier
Upton
Conforto
Scherzer
DeGrom
Darvish

What?
What?
4 years ago

I was offered Marco Estrada if I give up Dan Vogelbach in a dynasty league. Any reason to think Vogelbach can actually become a usable player or should I move on to help my pitching (atleast with innings)?

swaggerjackers
swaggerjackers
4 years ago

@Grey: Are the videos going to have titles or unique thumbnails? I clicked this one thinking it was new but sadly it wasn’t. Just wondering how we’re going to be able to tell them apart through out the season.

I can tell those K’s have you hesitating on Judge. I don’t blame you.

omar
omar
4 years ago

8 team AL Only 5×5 Standard Roto:

Can keep 3 of the 4 below for 2018. Who’s the odd man out?

Altuve
Kluber
Lindor
Springer

Tyler
Tyler
4 years ago

Came for Fantasy advice and walked out with TV recommendations! Sneaky Pete is really good so far!

Gray, every year I undervalue steals and can never make them up. Who do you see being a good value who doesn’t kill you in all the other categories like specialists Dyson,DeShields, etc.

Do you see Marte/Gordon/ or any others being good value? Any others? Also does Acuna even have a starting job in ATL?

Speill
Speill
4 years ago

8 teams. I know Trout will most likely go for that much. Thinking about tapping some money out for the draft. Thanks

Speill
Speill
Reply to  Grey
4 years ago

@Grey: I’m thinking that too. Oh yeah weren’t you in Southparks 3rd season. That guy looks familiar.

Uncle Ernie
Uncle Ernie
4 years ago

I like your next ten. Looks solid! So I’m still peddling Mr Trout. Couldn’t get Freddy for him as I wanted so looking at Mr Springer. Not as high on him but if I get him for $19 salary this year might give up Trout at $67. I’d rather have Trout but could save $48 for the auction. What would you do Grey. ?

J-FOH
J-FOH
4 years ago

Is that claymation? And why do you look like my nino?

J-FOH
J-FOH
Reply to  Grey
4 years ago

@Grey: Ive met you and the last thing you have is a shade of brown on your skin

J-FOH
J-FOH
Reply to  Grey
4 years ago

@Grey: feels like they made this in Tijuana

J-FOH
J-FOH
Reply to  Grey
4 years ago

@Grey: Bueno is also a common greeting when answering the phone

Jose
Jose
4 years ago

MLB can take away our offseason FA signings, but they can’t take away Grey’s rankings! Love the lists, love the sleeper posts, love the work! You’re the man Grey!

Little know fact (I assume)…Randy Johnson is a co-owner of a Sports Bar in Phoenix Arizona with Alice Cooper. One of their feature menu items is a 20ish inch hot dog called….The Big Unit!

Haha. Happy Tuesday!

Old School Brother
Old School Brother
4 years ago

Performing their hit single Bad Company off the Album Bad Company, lets give a round of applause for BAD COMPANY!!

J-FOH
J-FOH
Reply to  Old School Brother
4 years ago

@Old School Brother: I’ve heard that song played in every biker bar I’ve EVER been to

Mind=Blown
Mind=Blown
4 years ago

Hmm interesting indeed.

Would you trade Blackmon and Robles or Eloy for Bellinger? 6 X 6 OPS league keep forever.

Thatguy
Thatguy
4 years ago

Max over that Kershaw guy ya say……. I like it. Durability matters.

Keeper league question
Can keep 2 guys, h2h points league, 10 pts for win

Grienke (6th rd)
Luis Castillo (13th rd)
Acuna (13th rd)

Can’t wait for more rankings to follow

Slappy Jack
Slappy Jack
Reply to  Thatguy
4 years ago

@Thatguy: se: I’d prob let castillo walk if you are in contention this year, grienke if you are in rebuild
You can’t let someone else have Acuna before we get to see him in action imo

Duda Want to Build a Snowman?
Duda Want to Build a Snowman?
4 years ago

Some nice surprises there! I got lost in a daydream when I read Just Dong and Coors in the same sentence.

With Springer ranked higher than expected . . . would you want to keep a $19 Springer or $5 Domingo Santana (OBP OPS league)?

Similarly, would you be trying to swap your $10 Just Dong for $9 Lindor, or hold until we see where Dong signs (in the off chance its Coors)? Just worried about those injuries!

Thanks.

Racehorse
Racehorse
4 years ago

Anyone who wants to chime in –

I’m thinking of offering …

Ryon Healy 1B/3B
Scott Kingery 2B – minor league roster

for

Rafael Devers 3B
Dylan Cease RHP – minor league roster

(16 team dynasty league – 13 player minor league rosters)

Comments ?

Duda Want to Build a Snowman?
Duda Want to Build a Snowman?
Reply to  Racehorse
4 years ago

@Racehorse: Devers is the best player in that bunch, so I’d definitely make that offer.

Racehorse
Racehorse
Reply to  Duda Want to Build a Snowman?
4 years ago

@Duda Want to Build a Snowman?: do you see it as a blatant low-ball offer?

That’s what I’m tring to avoid, btw.

The Great Knoche
The Great Knoche
4 years ago

Cody and Manny sitting in a tree K-K-K-K-ING

Only two I didn’t like.

I think I’m going I own a lot of Rizzo at 2B this year.

FrankGrimes
FrankGrimes
Reply to  The Great Knoche
4 years ago

@The Great Knoche:
He prolly gets drafted earlier cuz of that silly eligibility at second

Test Kitchen
Test Kitchen
4 years ago

Grey,

Are people always so moody and cranky and unappreciative in response to your ranks?!? Everything else must be perfect in their world to have this much energy to be upset at the best in the biz sharing his ranks for free. No idea what world they are living in… Appreciate what ya do!

Earl
Earl
Reply to  Test Kitchen
4 years ago

@Test Kitchen:

I also appreciate Grey’s work. Gives me different perspectives that I don’t also think of (Or have the knowledge to think of; lol).

THanks again.

Bad Ash
Bad Ash
Reply to  Earl
4 years ago

@Earl:

I went to this awesome restaurant in Cape Town called Test Kitchen. We were there for our anniversary. Mmm! Awesome people, delicious food and wine, plus lots of nooky with the Misuss. Highly recommend a safari in Kruger National Park and then a quick trip to Cape Town. South Africa is the shizz.

Also, the trolls on here should f off. This is a holy place. Be grateful!

Geoff
Reply to  Test Kitchen
4 years ago

@Test Kitchen: Exactly! If you want the consensus ranks with no perspective or nuance, go to fantasypros and look at the ranks. I disagree with Grey all the time, but I respect the BeJesus out of him.

J-FOH
J-FOH
Reply to  Geoff
4 years ago

@Ralph Lifshitz: you disagree with damn near everyone all the time

scotty the captain
scotty the captain
Reply to  Test Kitchen
4 years ago

@Test Kitchen: im with u test kitchen. if u want the consensus read espn. thanks for all the hard work and entertaining write ups grey. long time reader, very infrequent commenter.

LG Baseball
LG Baseball
Reply to  Test Kitchen
4 years ago

@Test Kitchen: well said and was thinking the same thing. Razzball has helped me win tons of leagues and is the best site out there. Keep up the great work Grey and team!

Dodger Rabbit
Dodger Rabbit
4 years ago

Love how bullish you are on Bellinger.
You convinced me to go all in on him this year.

Crime dog
Crime dog
Reply to  Dodger Rabbit
4 years ago

@Dodger Rabbit: Loving Bellinger. Everyone points to his WS performance. Truth is, he’s not going to be facing elite pitching all year, he’ll feast. I think his K’s can come down a little too (26% isn’t awful, not great but not awful). Dude has always walked around 10% too so you know he has a good eye. Athletic as all get out too. Some people say he’s not a big base stealer but he stole 17 bags between AAA and MLB last year. He’s also maybe the fastest from home to 1st on the Dodgers. I’m all in! Cotton candy sweetie go, let me see that Belly roll!

a
a
Reply to  Grey
4 years ago

@Grey: Anyone want to venture he finishes outside the top 40? give me 2 to 1 on $500

Joey Jo Jo Jr Shabadoo
Joey Jo Jo Jr Shabadoo
Reply to  a
4 years ago

@a: you’re saying bellinger is at least 33% to finish season as worse than 40th overall? i.e. you’d be the one getting 2-1 (1000 to your 500)

Alex H
Alex H
4 years ago

Springers splits last season were nuts. He was having an MVP type season in the first half. 27 HR 310/380/613 and a 344 babip. Then his babip drops to 244 and and hits 7 homers 241/344/377 in the second half.

The crazy thing is his strikeout totals in the first half vs. the second half.

(Bb/k)

1st: 34/83
2nd: 30/28

Was he just really unlucky in the second half? Also, where do you think his babip falls this season? 244 seems absurdly low.

Jensen
Jensen
Reply to  Alex H
4 years ago

@Alex H: You think that’s bad? Go look up Judge’s splits.

El Marco
El Marco
Reply to  Grey
4 years ago

@Grey:
In the second half, Judge only hit 3 more homers then Lindor!

The Great Knoche
The Great Knoche
Reply to  Grey
4 years ago

@Grey: Judge will be biggest bust this year.

Steve Stevenson
Steve Stevenson
Reply to  Alex H
4 years ago

@Alex H: I’m sorry, I can’t see anything because my boner from Springer’s game 5 HR is blocking my vision…

Lance
4 years ago

Dam. I thought I was going to be the fantasy hipster with Blackmon outside of the first round. You stole my thunder, Grey! *sad face*

Earl
Earl
4 years ago

Just looking for some feedback on drafting strategy for a standard 5×5 roto league.

My strategy in recent years has been something like draft good hitters with first 3 picks and then go with good starter followed by top closer to make up first 5 rounds.

I am wondering if it makes sense to go after one of the top 3 starters (Like Max, Sale) in the 2nd round and then go hitters in round 3 and 4.

It seems in recent years, many leagues I have entered (Maybe I am in wrong leagues, haha) put a real premium on getting closers (at least 2 of them) fairly early almost ahead of starters.

Thanks everyone for feedback.

Earl
Earl
Reply to  Grey
4 years ago

@Grey: Thanks. So you are syaing that my current strategy is way to go ie. hitter for first 3 rounds and then maybe starter and closer??

El Marco
El Marco
Reply to  Grey
4 years ago

@Grey: Nola in the fifth a stretch? Him or Archer. Usually have to take a pitcher one round early in my league…

El Marco
El Marco
Reply to  Grey
4 years ago

@Grey: 10 teams. Would normally take him in the 6th but worried he won’t be there. I’ll have to reach a bit but I’m all in on Nola. Hey I’m in Nola right now!! Wait, that came out wrong.

El Marco
El Marco
Reply to  Grey
4 years ago

@Grey: only was in the Airport or I would be! Nola has to be my favorite city, not sure how someone could get bored with it.

Scooter B
Scooter B
4 years ago

This seems like a year where there is more depth in the first two rounds than in typical years. In a 20 team league do you feel this is a good year to have a draft pick in the 15-20 range as opposed to the 5-10 range? Based on your rankings in contrast to conventional wisdom, there’s bargains to be had by by drafting late in the first round.

Big Mike
Big Mike
4 years ago

Oh, and another thing!! (while I drunkenly swing my beer stein at you)

So, with Rizzo at second, Lindor at short, and Donaldson at third (all keepers), I can keep Wil Myers at first. Are you going to convince me that I should keep Rougie at second for his last year of keeper eligibility and slide Myers to my CI slot (which would happen if you have Rougie in the top 50), or are you going to convince me to let Rougie slide back into the draft and watch as someone else watches him go for 35 homers and a .270 average this year as his walk rate finally climbs into acceptable range?

Willy Mo
Willy Mo
4 years ago

No chance am i drafting anthony rizzo over aaron judge.

Too safe/boring

Rizzo basically hasnt missed a game in 3 seasons and hes never once reached 100 runs in any season. 2 of the last 3 seasons he had under a .280 batting average, including .273 last year. He just seems to be a guy whos always going to battle with a low BABIP (career .283 BABIP!!). His home runs the last 3 seasons are 31, 32, and 32 so thats what he is there, not knocking my socks off with power.

And im not saying its a bad thing that he plays every game obviously but if he were to hit the dl hes looking at maybe 27 homers? Its the reverse of springer, where springer missed time and still hit 34 dingers, so we can reasonably say hes got a higer ceiling than that if he doesnt get injured. With Rizzo he better play 158 games to get to the projections, which he prolly will but meh idk how you can have him over Judge when rizzo is so unsexy. Hes the anti sexy. Hes sex-less. Rizzo underperforms your ranking every year I feel like 3 years running. He was fun to draft when everyone thought he sucked but now im not interested. Im disinterested. His swing is so f*ing wonky. Id bet a lot of the money rizzo isn’t a top 14 fantasy player in standard leagues. OPS and OBP leagues sure, but not in RCL format no way.

Big Mike
Big Mike
Reply to  Willy Mo
4 years ago

@Willy Mo:

I agree with Willy Mo!!!! I mean come on man!!!! If Judge decreases from last year’s production by 20% he’s still a top 20 player!!!! 102, 91, 42, 7 is a 20% regression from last year!!!!

Grey!!!! You’re off your rocker!!!!

Fungazi
Fungazi
Reply to  Big Mike
4 years ago

@Big Mike: Not when he’s hitting .235

Willy Mo
Willy Mo
Reply to  Big Mike
4 years ago

@Big Mike: like

Crime dog
Crime dog
Reply to  Willy Mo
4 years ago

@Willy Mo: I am so pumped to target Rizzo in my one league. I am in a 6×6 league (R,HR,RBI,K,SB,OPS) and Rizzo was by far the biggest beneficiary of this format (as oppose to standard 5×5 cats). In standard 5×5 Rizzo was like 25th on player rater amongst hitters. In this 6×6 format he was 5th last year! huge jump. Needless to say I will be targeting him heavily, and he’s so steady. His last 3 years are virtually identical. Still fairly young too.

Willy Mo
Willy Mo
Reply to  Grey
4 years ago

@Grey: would love to see where rizzo finished on the player rater the last 3 years compared to your preseason rankings each year.

Geoff
Reply to  Willy Mo
4 years ago

@Willy Mo: Wait, we’re telling Grey how to win an RCL?

Willy Mo
Willy Mo
Reply to  Geoff
4 years ago

@Ralph Lifshitz: nah just saying im not that excited passing on a player with judges upside for a guy who hits around 280 with 32 homers at pick 14

Geoff
Reply to  Willy Mo
4 years ago

@Willy Mo: Yeah, I had a long response to this, but it’s not worth going into great detail.

I guess what it comes down to is, I’m not sure what Judge’s upside is beyond last season. Do you expect him to repeat or even get better? What’s the pathway to that?

Willy Mo
Willy Mo
Reply to  Geoff
4 years ago

@Ralph Lifshitz: yeah yeah ralph i get it…regression… judge was lucky yada yada.

Judge is a generational player imo who cant be mathematically explained. Yes, he can hit 70 homers.

Steamer is what you are basing everythimg on, if steamer gave judge 45 homers like it should i dont think we are having this conversation.

Willy Mo
Willy Mo
Reply to  Willy Mo
4 years ago

@Willy Mo: everything*

Geoff
Reply to  Willy Mo
4 years ago

@Willy Mo: I base my opinions on research and knowledge. I live this, I’m not some clown. You’re a over the top Judge fan boy admit it.

Geoff
Reply to  Willy Mo
4 years ago

@Willy Mo: Haven’t read his steamer.

I’ve been following Judge for 6-7 years.

The Great Knoche
The Great Knoche
Reply to  Geoff
4 years ago

@Ralph Lifshitz: in with you. What is the upside from last year. He’s not going to figure out how to hit Opposite field line drives anytime soon. He wasn’t great once decent pitchers figured him out last year. I expect a big drop off.

Jax
Jax
Reply to  Willy Mo
4 years ago

@Willy Mo: You seemed really worried about Rizzo’s career BABIP being a little lower than the league average, but not Judge’s who had a BABIP 40 points higher (.426) than the next two players (Sano and Mancini @ .388 and .385, respectively) outside of Ben f***ing Gamel (.422) in the first half.

And if nothing else, Steamer has Judge projected at 92/37/96/.254/7 for this year. But, if you wanna draft him at his cost based on his upside, which will require him maintaining around a .400 BABIP, you’re playin’ yourself

Willy Mo
Willy Mo
Reply to  Jax
4 years ago

@Jax: maybe the fact that judges exit velocity is the speed of sound explains his high babip ?

And im not worried about ant rizzos babip, i know it will be low

Geoff
Reply to  Willy Mo
4 years ago

@Willy Mo: Not that high, and he’s a flyball not a LD guy. That applies more to LD types or a Miggy.

I mean David Peralta’s average exit velo is higher than Judge’s would you buy a .350 BABIP from him?

Geoff
Reply to  Geoff
4 years ago

@Ralph Lifshitz: BTW Rizzo and Judge’s exit velos are nearly identical.

Willy Mo
Willy Mo
Reply to  Geoff
4 years ago

@Willy Mo: i [email protected]Ralph Lifshitz: what?!?!?!?!?! This is 10000% not accurate.

Just checked stat cast. It only shows me the top 50 or 100 cant see on phone but Judge is number 1 on stat cast at over 95 mph exit velo and rizzo isnt listed. And the lowest listed in that page is matt holliday at 90 mph.

Do you watch baseball? Rizzo has an identical exit velo to judge??????

Are you just trying to disagree with mo wow this is so not accurate wowwww

Willy Mo
Willy Mo
Reply to  Geoff
4 years ago

@Ralph Lifshitz: wut?????????

Are you high? Or blind or both. This is not correct. David Peralta does not have a higher exot velo than aaron judge wtf!??!?!?!

Willy Mo
Willy Mo
Reply to  Willy Mo
4 years ago

@Willy Mo: exit*

Joey Jo Jo Jr Shabadoo
Joey Jo Jo Jr Shabadoo
Reply to  Willy Mo
4 years ago

@Willy Mo: what about the kike? he’s 2nd overall.

Big Mike
Big Mike