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After drudging through an Andy Dufresne-type tunnel for the top 20 catchers for 2010, I find myself with a group that actually really hurt or helped your team depending on how you drafted.  If you went wrong with your 1st baseman, it could kill your season.  If you went right, you might’ve won.  Here’s my preseason Top 20 1st Basemen for 2010 for reference sake.  Also, to recap, this final ranking is from ESPN Player Rater with my comments.  The Player Rater allows me to be impartial while looking at how I ranked them in the preseason.  Anyway, here’s the top 20 1st basemen for 2010 fantasy baseball and how they compared to where I originally ranked them:

1. Albert Pujols – Proves once again if you have the first pick of the draft, you shouldn’t overthink things.  Preseason Rank #1, 2010 Projections:  110/40/120/.337/10, Final Numbers:  115/42/118/.312/14

2. Joey Votto – In my preseason rankings, I put Votto in a tier called, “Yes, please.”  In my December Joey Votto keeper post, I said, “If Votto continues to progress, you’re looking at a guy that could easily give you 32 homers, 10 steals and a .300 average.  If you buy into Joey Votto for 2010, I’ll also throw in a climbing walk rate and OPS for absolutely free!”  And that’s me quoting me!  If you didn’t know I wanted you to draft Votto, you weren’t reading Razzball.  Preseason Rank #10, 2010 Projections:  90/30/105/.305/7, Final Numbers:  106/37/113/.324/16

3. Miguel Cabrera – About as consistent as they come.  Be forewarned, I’m strongly considering Miggy for the number one spot in all of fantasy baseball next year.  What was that about not overthinking things?  Preseason Rank #3, 2010 Projections:  105/35/115/.320/3, Final Numbers:  111/38/126/.328/3

4. Paul Konerko – Konerko’s one of those late round corner men that is always welcome in deep leagues and always ignored in shallow ones.  He falls between the cracks like C+ students.  This year, he took pitchers to school.  Will be really hard for me to expect anything along these lines next year from Konerko and he’ll probably surprise me again.  Preseason Unranked, 2010 Projections:  55/24/75/.260, Final Numbers:  89/39/111/.312

5. Adrian Gonzalez – Well, I’ve seen better seasons.  Miggy for one, that was a better season.  But it’s hard to hate too much on A-Gon.  At least he wasn’t Prince Fielder.  Or Justin Morneau.  Or Teixeira.  Preseason Rank #6, 2010 Projections:  90/38/100/.280, Final Numbers:  87/31/101/.298

6. Aubrey Huff – I didn’t have high hopes for him moving to a pitchers’ park/division.  Yeah, I was wrong.  Hey, even Spielberg made 1941.  Preseason Unranked, Final Numbers:  100/26/86/.290/7

7. Ryan Howard – I wanted the 40 homers from Howard and you did too.  So it’s hard to not look at this season as a slight letdown.  Really the whole Phillies offense this year was a letdown.  It’s Citizens Flank, hit some homers before some fans hit you.  Preseason Rank #5, 2010 Projections:  105/47/140/.275, Final Numbers:  87/31/108/.276/1

8. Nick Swisher – Swisher was the kind of pick that helped you win your league.  You draft a random schmohawk in the last rounds, you slot him at corner and he ends up better than your 1st round pick.  I’m farting in your general direction, Fielder.  Preseason Unranked for 1st Basemen, 2010 Projections:  80/30/90/.255, Final Numbers:  91/29/89/.288/1

9. Mark Teixeira – PABST:  Post-All-Star Break’s Stats Teixeira looked more like PBS BS:  Post-Break Stats Before September, which left him looking like a charity case most of the season.  Am I being tough?  Prolly.  Really only his average killed you.  I expect he’ll have a nice bounce back next year.  Preseason Rank #2, 2010 Projections:  100/37/120/.305, Final Numbers:  113/33/108/.256

10. Martin Prado – This is one of those ESPN Player Rater glitches that ranks someone high because of a good average and Runs.  Prado was no 1st baseman.  He was a good corner infidel.  Preseason Unranked for 1st Basemen, 2010 Projections:  70/8/60/.305, Final Numbers:  100/15/66/.307/5

11. Adam Dunn – And, on the hottest day of the year, he blew clouds over your house when your AC went out.  You’re welcome.  Preseason Rank #14, 2010 Projections:  80/40/100/.250, Final Numbers:  85/38/103/.260

12. Billy Butler – I didn’t like him going into 2010 and told people to avoid him.  And his stats still came in way under where I even thought he’d be with only 7.5 homers per moob.  He still wasn’t as big a moob as Kung Fu Panda who didn’t even make the top 30, let alone top 20.  Preseason Rank #18, 2010 Projections:  85/25/100/.295, Final Numbers:  77/15/78/.318

13. Prince Fielder – Where do I start?  Okay, how about the fluky nature of RBIs?  You really can’t blame Fielder for having less RBIs than Juan Uribe.  Then only 32 homers?  Yeah, you can blame that on the Chubbster.  He’s looking like the raison d’etre for Saberhagenmetrics.  One year good, one year bad and so it goes with Fielder.  And so it goes… Preseason Rank #4, 2010 Projections: 100/42/115/.285, Final Numbers:  94/32/83/.261/1

14. Victor Martinez – Went over him in the top 20 catchers for 2010 post.

15. Luke Scott – Luke, you are my waiver wire fodder.  In a few leagues where I had Scott, I had him for, like, three weeks and had 12 homers from him.  Doode gets hotter than a junebug’s belly.  Preseason Unranked, Final Numbers:  70/27/72/.284/2

16. Kevin Youkilis – His low ranking is deceiving.  Assuming you had the fortitude and gumption (gumpitude?) to grab a decent 1st baseman when Youuuuuuk went down, you did okay.  Preseason Rank #8, 2010 Projections:  95/27/105/.295/5, Final Numbers:  77/19/62/.307/4

17. Michael Cuddyer – He’s not exactly ranked high here, but it’s still scary how high he is considering how terrible his final stats are.  I mean, 14 homers?  Really?  Crimey a river, JT.  I think it’s pretty clear the steroid era is over and if someone can get you 30+ homers you must draft them high.  Preseason Rank #21, 2010 Projections:  85/24/95/.275/5, Final Numbers:  93/14/81/.271/7

18. Howie Kendrick – Huh?  At first base?  I’m gonna go over him in the next post on top 20 2nd basemen because this doesn’t make any sense to me.  Preseason Unranked for 1st Basemen, 2010 Projections:  85/12/70/.310/12, Final Numbers:  67/10/75/.279/14

19. Gaby Sanchez – He was in the 2nd Buy/Sell of the year as a lukewarm Buy and he never really moved beyond that.  Was a good pickup for NL-Only or very deep mixed leagues, but if you had Gaby anywhere but the corner infidel spot, you were in trouble.  Preseason Unranked, Final Numbers:  72/19/85/.273/5

20. Adam LaRoche – He actually had a decent first half this year (for him) that seemed like it would naturally turn into a career year because he’s always been such a better 2nd half player.  Too bad no one told LaRoche about any of this.  Preseason Rank #24, 2010 Projections:  70/27/80/.265, Final Numbers:  75/25/100/.261

  1. Bum Juice says:

    I think 1B may be the most interesting position next year.

    I think Miggy, Pujols, Votto will go 1-3 in most leagues, but people are gonna be confused about the rest: can we expect legit, real turnarounds from Tex, Howard, Prince? A better season from A-Gone? Can we ever trust Morneau again? I think “experts'” opinions will vary widely on some of these questions.

    On a different note, I *think* the problem with using the ESPN player rater to do these position rankings is that it can inflate the value of players eligible at other slots. I mean, if a crystal ball gave you the final stats for 2010 at draft time, then sure, you might draft Howie Kendrick ahead of LaRoche, but not to fill your 1B slot. Or put another way: if you only had your 1B slot left to fill, you’d have been better off (I believe) with LaRoche.

    Also, for a roto league, and as frustrating as he was to own, I’d actually rank 2010 Tex right next to 2010 A-Gone.

  2. Greg Gallagher says:

    “I think 1B may be the most interesting position next year.”

    I think 1st base is right there with the outfield with regard to the number of guys due resurrections. Does Teix get to the second round? Imagine getting Tulo and a bounce-back Teix with your first two picks….


  3. big o says:

    was forunate to draft paulie konerko in the 16th round .
    as a complement to adrian , he served me well in the corner infidel spot .

    he was like that ron popeil’s set-it-and-forget-it thingamabob .

  4. Eddy says:

    @big o:

    Except Konerko tried about 39 times to not be forgotten.

    Wish I would’ve enjoyed the guy in 2010, but I had him nowhere.

    (sad face)

  5. johnbutte says:

    Grey, I won my league! Thanks for all the help, here’s a daquiri on me!

    -John Butte (aka J.L.)

  6. Grey

    Grey says:

    @Bum Juice: I think one of the problems with the Player Rater is it doesn’t do exactly what you’re saying. Guys are more valuable with more eligibility, but the Rater doesn’t add anything to them. Re: Kendrick — Was a weak offensive year, that’s why he’s ranked there. I mean Cuddyer’s above him and he has 14 homers and 7 steals. That’s terrible.

    @Greg Gallagher: You could’ve had those two on the same team this year.

    @big o: There ya go.

    @Eddy: Yeah, me too.

    @johnbutte: Congrats on the win, JB (JL).

  7. ThE sHiT says:

    @Grey: Good morning! Yeah I had both Fielder and Butler on my championship team. I feel like I kinda have to own Prince next year for redemption and the odd-year great numbers. Definitely not owning Butler next year. After careful thought, I’m still not sure how I stayed in the top 5 all year and won the league with those 2 on my team…

  8. Grey

    Grey says:

    @ThE sHiT: Morning! Yeah, they weren’t great, but at least you didn’t have Kung Fu Panda and Cuddyer.

  9. ThE sHiT says:

    @Grey: I’m looking at the draft results and I just saw that I passed on Dunn for Butler. Thankfully, I’ll have Razzball with me when I draft next year to help me avoid blunders like that.

  10. Grey

    Grey says:

    @ThE sHiT: You must’ve took Butler pretty early.

  11. ThE sHiT says:

    @Grey: 6th round, 16 team snake draft. Dunn went 3 picks later.

  12. Grey

    Grey says:

    @ThE sHiT: That’s actually not that early, but still wasn’t the greatest pick, obviously. BTW, I was at LAX yesterday.

  13. ThE sHiT says:

    @Grey: Yeah it was a bad pick. At the time, I hated avg killers like Dunn. I think that was my logic behind the pick. Now, I’ve grown to not mind the avg killer.

    What were you at LAX for? My regular days off are Mondays and Tuesdays.

  14. Greg Gallagher says:

    @Grey: Fair point, I didn’t think that through!

  15. Grey

    Grey says:

    @ThE sHiT: Yeah, average killers get a bad rap. I had to drop off friends that visited this past weekend.

  16. Gimme the Loot says:

    Grey, howzit.

    You’re really thinking about Miggy over Pujo next year? I’m high on Miggy, but not chronic (not right now at least).

    Also, agree that Butler will be better next year than he was this year? Which still was not too bad. Or do you think he will always just be a 2B/AVG guy?

  17. Back to Minors says:

    Huff was one of my best pickups.

  18. Grey

    Grey says:

    @Gimme the Loot: Butler could have a lucky year where he hits 25 to 30 homers, but he’s not really a homer hitter. Definitely more 2B/AVG. I’m considering Miggy over Pujols, but probably won’t be able to pull that trigger because Pujols is so consistent.

    @Back to Minors: There ya go.

  19. Black Beard says:

    Great that you pointed out Fielder’s RBI total…it depressed me all year. Of the guys with 30 homeruns everyone knocked in 100 plus except Fielder, Reynolds, and Vernon Wells.

    Also, Rickie Weeks with the same number of RBI’s as Fielder…from the 1-hole. Oh. I realize he hit 29 homeruns (wow, 29, thattaboy Rickie) but still. I’d also like to add that Grey is the man at projecting value at 2b. Honestly, it’s amazing. Last year with Hill and Zobrist, this year Weeks and Kelly Johnson. In a league with MI…enormous.

  20. Grey

    Grey says:

    @Black Beard: Yeah, there was a lot to be annoyed about with Fielder’s year. Like I said above, RBIs are a bit wonky to rely on. Next year he could get 120 RBIs and no one would blink an eye (or at least no one that didn’t own him this year).

  21. Steve says:

    @Grey: If I don’t own him next year and he drives in 120, I’m doing more than blinking an eye.

  22. Grey

    Grey says:

    @Steve: Yeah, you might get the dreaded twitchy eye.

  23. Black Beard says:

    @Grey: I’m really hoping Fielder gets moved. I felt like there were a lot of games this year where The Fat Prince of Miller just never had his ticking time bomb of a heart in the right place.

  24. Steve says:

    @Grey: Not to mention the hitching shoulder, randomly rubbing the side of my head and collapsing into the foetal position and moaning uncontrollably.

  25. Eddy says:

    I was thinking that 2011 is going to be ridiculously hard for me in terms of drafting strategies because unlike 2010 drafts where they were all yearly snake drafts that mocks prepared me for in terms of learning ADPs and whatnot, I’m looking at drafting around 4 keepers in a 12 team league that goes according to the round a player was drafted, a 16 team league where the first 7 rounds are taken up by keepers (so I gotta take a look at the submitted keepers and see who’ll be available), and I’m planning on venturing into an auction league just for s and g’s.

    Don’t know how I’m supposed to mock for those leagues in the off-season.

    But heck, why not start planning out the first 13 rounds of my money league now?

    As I’m sure you know, this is a very rough plan of attack. The only four names listed here are my keepers of the 12 team H2H.

    3rd-OF (Holliday? Kemp?)
    4th-2B/SS (Phillips? Kinsler? You think weeks will go this high?)
    5th-SP (Kershaw? JJ?)
    6th-SP (ditto?)
    7th-OF (Pence?)
    8th-2B/SS (Or would Weeks be this low?)
    11th-Catcher (thinking of maybe Posey?)

    I’m still debating on that 8th round MI because there’s trash at that point, and we all know how we Razzballers love punting MI.

    So, anything you’d do differently?

  26. Simply Fred

    simply fred says:

    OK, here’s a 2010 list of “unranked” (at least not top-ranked) players that fit the mold of this year’s break-outs. The AVG: is the average of the posted five unranked 1B. The list that follows are the players that had 2010 stats similar to these. (Yes, they include other positions, but a first look at ‘potential slugger break-outs’.) Good luck!

    AVG: 70 / 23 / 83 / 1 / 0.259

    Laroche,Ad 75 / 25 / 100 / 0 / 0.261
    Overbay 75 / 25 / 67 / 1 / 0.243
    Davis,I 73 / 19 / 71 / 3 / 0.264
    Loney 67 / 10 / 88 / 10 / 0.267
    Wigginton 63 / 22 / 76 / 0 / 0.248
    Lee,D 80 / 19 / 80 / 1 / 0.26
    Wells 79 / 31 / 88 / 6 / 0.273
    Gomes 77 / 18 / 86 / 5 / 0.266
    Hunter 76 / 23 / 90 / 9 / 0.281
    Quentin 73 / 26 / 87 / 2 / 0.243
    Hill 70 / 26 / 68 / 2 / 0.205
    McGehee 70 / 23 / 104 / 1 / 0.285
    Drew,J.D. 69 / 22 / 68 / 3 / 0.255
    Kubel 68 / 21 / 92 / 0 / 0.249
    Lee,C 67 / 24 / 89 / 3 / 0.246
    Soriano,A 67 / 24 / 79 / 5 / 0.258
    Rolen 66 / 20 / 83 / 1 / 0.285
    Jones,G 64 / 21 / 86 / 7 / 0.247
    Pena,C 64 / 28 / 84 / 5 / 0.196
    Uribe,J 64 / 24 / 85 / 1 / 0.248
    Ramirez,A 61 / 25 / 83 / 0 / 0.241
    Betancourt 60 / 16 / 78 / 2 / 0.259
    Peralta 60 / 15 / 81 / 1 / 0.249
    Kouzmanoff 59 / 16 / 71 / 2 / 0.247
    Lind 57 / 23 / 72 / 0 / 0.237
    Blake 56 / 17 / 64 / 0 / 0.248
    Matsui 55 / 21 / 84 / 0 / 0.274

  27. Simply Fred

    simply fred says:

    @simply fred: Oh, sorry. This is the AVG: for those guys for 2009. That really should be our comparison. Uh, really good luck!

    AVG: 28 / 9 / 26 / 0 / 0.238

  28. Having Votto at first and Dunn at Corner was really really nice. Did I mention I won my league?

  29. Steve says:

    @Elijah: Snap!

    Came second (sad trumpet).

  30. Grey

    Grey says:

    @Black Beard: Could happen, I suppose. But I feel like it’ll be one of those rumors that doesn’t happen.

    @Steve: You go into the doctor and he’s like, “Did you own Prince Fielder last year?”

    @Eddy: Don’t see why you’d go with the 4th or 8th pick. Not crazy about back to back SPs either.

    @simply fred: Hmm… But confused as to what that shows me.

  31. Grey

    Grey says:

    @Elijah: Yeah, that’s a nice start at infield.

  32. @Grey:

    Too bad I had Mini Donkey and Utley, tho neither was a total disaster. Tulo was great of course, Alexei was a great MI, and I had Luke Scott as DH/Swingman for the 2nd half of the season. My OF was Craztastic tho with Holliday, CarGo, Krispie Young and Nelson Cruz.

  33. Oh and BUCK! Free Bucks > Gold Plated Twinkies

  34. Grey

    Grey says:

    @Elijah: That sounds like a team that would win a H2H league. Well, Tulo, at least. Mini Donkey and Utley weren’t a bit of a mess this year. Reynolds didn’t even make the top 20 1st basemen, as seen above.

  35. @Grey:

    Yeah, but what really won it in the end was my surprisingly good pitching. I didnt take a pitcher until r8 but grabbed bargains like Josh Johnson, Hamels, Latos, Filthy, H Bell, and had a ton of your Razzball specials later on in the year like Chris Perez, and Danny Hudson (DROOL for 2011 btw on Hudson). The ‘bargain boys’ ended up #1 in Batting avg against, ERA, and Saves, #2 in WHIP, and #3 in K’s.

    After all, if you take bats the first 7 picks your O should be expected to be good.

  36. Grey

    Grey says:

    @Elijah: Yeah, that’s a stacked pitching staff. You went with all my specials even up front. I like D-Rules.

  37. @Grey:

    Would have been even nicer but for the fiascous Kershaw+Soriano for Haren trade.

  38. Grey

    Grey says:

    @Elijah: Ah…Yeah, doesn’t look so nice in hindsight. Stupid Haren.

  39. @Grey:

    It all worked out, I replaced him midseason with Arroyo. I had Brett Anderson 2nd half too, and Wandy (who I drafted, dropped, then grabbed again once he got himself healthy).

  40. Grey

    Grey says:

    @Elijah: Was it you against 11 autodrafters or did you pull all the right moves?

  41. @Grey:

    I had your board, they had theirs! Thanks bro! Actually its a very competitive league for the most part. I think the biggest advantage I had was your board, and then optimized it further for a 7×7 format. It was np coincidence I was #1 in every additional Category: Total Bases, OPS, Batting Avg against, and Losses.

    But yeah I made some judicious moves as well, I must have done 20 mock drafts on the ESPN drafter before the season so I knew precisely who I was gonna take in any given situation in any given round.Also surely helps I hit the jackpot on guys like CarGo, JJ, Bell, and Latos. Krispie was huge as a FA pickup. I distinctly remember posting here in April: “BTW, just in case you aren’t paying attention, everyone pickup Krispie while you still can”.

  42. peter says:

    @Black Beard: It was a disappointing year for the middle of the Brewers’ lineup. I was trying to see if there a glaring, statistical correlation between Prince and Braun’s down years, but I didn’t see anything at a glance. Maybe Braun and Prince switched uniforms with McGehee and Hart this year. Which would explain why the the Fielder uniform was so baggy on the guy wearing it.

    Because I’m a big fan of the schadenfreude, I like looking at some of the 1B who can in ranked 21+…

    23 & 24: Loney and Zobrist. I mention Zobrist to underscore how much Loney sucks. Invariably, every year I end up hearing someone say “Loney was a disappointment”. Yet he keeps getting drafted and staying owned. It’s as if people watched Sports Science long enough to see Loney called a “slugger” and “star”, but turned it off before seeing he couldn’t hit a whiffle ball:

    28: Garrett Jones – this one hurt, personally. I cut ties mid season, but kept his name on post-it notes around the house so I’d remember to keep checking in on him. Yeah, sad trombone.

    30: Mark Reynolds. Razzball Nation knew he’d give his owners paper cuts in 2010, but we didn’t anticipate Reynolds squeezing lemon juice on them. Daric Barton was rated higher; something that I’ve been more than happy to point out to Reynolds owners this year. Can people see a shiz-eating-grin through an email?

    36: Carlos Pena. In one of my leagues, one jackass/good friend chose Reynolds and Pena as keepers. He was very pleased with himself as recently as March, but no one’s heard from him since.

    42: Lance Berkman. Suckers. Even James Loney was ranked ahead of him.

  43. Grey

    Grey says:

    @Elijah: Yeah, I actually remember you saying that. Jackpots are nice too.

  44. Grey

    Grey says:

    @peter: Nice breakdown! Loney is such a joke. I can’t believe anyone drafts him at this point. That’s funny about Pena and Reynolds. Ouch. Sad trombone on Robot Jones, for sure.

  45. Loney’s ok as a temporary band-aid if your 1b goes on the DL, thats really about it.

  46. Eddy says:

    My bad, those are rounds, not picks. Miggy is my 1st round keeper, Wright my 2nd round keeper, etc.

  47. Grey

    Grey says:

    @Elijah: If you need a two week Band-Aid, you probably can find someone hotter most of the time.

    @Eddy: Round or pick, same difference, no? Either way, I knew what you meant. Don’t think back to back SPs work and don’t see the need for the MIs that early.

  48. @Grey:

    True enuff on Loney. it was Luke Scott in my case but he ended up sticking around to DH. Also, technically Votto was a jackpot as well but I had him the year before, so I just knew he would be awesome. Yes, please, I will have another!

  49. Eddy says:

    Gotcha. So would you go with back to back stud OF in 3-4? Anything good come to mind for round 8?

  50. Grey

    Grey says:

    @Elijah: Hehe

    @Eddy: Depends on how the draft is unfolding, wouldn’t get tied into having to get a certain position, but I wouldn’t draft two MIs and two SPs that early.

  51. big o says:

    nice catch by moreland

  52. Grey

    Grey says:

    @big o: Almost a great non-catch on the bunt.

  53. fitz says:

    Grey, I just discovered this site midseason and check it daily now. I am wondering do you do a list similar like this in say February or early March for 2011 preseason rankings by position?

  54. fitz says:

    That’s great -can’t wait to check it out.


  55. big o says:


    “@big o: Lee… Price won’t be in the game for long.”

    time to work that voodoo that you do .

  56. big o says:


    if you need help , i’ve got a guy
    that’s good with that shizz .

  57. Max says:

    I’ve done some (admittedly lazy) browsing to find out how to donate a few daquiris for your hard work, Grey, but have come up empty handed. Mind helping me along?

  58. big o says:

    bartlett has to stay in there ,
    and absorb that shock .

    no guts .
    no glory .

  59. DrEasy says:

    Just took a look at the boxscore: did Benji really steal a base?

  60. Grey

    Grey says:

    @big o: Price has looked better than I thought he would. Still looks like a similar outcome right now.

    @DrEasy: Yeah, and got the antlers.

  61. Grey

    Grey says:

    @Max: Go to then click right under the first post. Thanks!

  62. big o says:

    girls never cared much for benoit strikes

  63. Steve says:

    The rescue capsule has reached the miners…

  64. Looks like the Hired Gunly will prevail again.

  65. @Grey:

    What do you think about Yanks Rangers (assuming it holds), I think the lefty bats on Texas pose a decent threat for NYY, they could pull it off.

  66. Grey

    Grey says:

    @Steve: About time.

    @Elijah: Does look that way. I like the Rangers moving onto the WS. Be great to see them take on the Giants. I think whoever the Rangers face the rest of the way would be the underdogs.

  67. @Grey:

    Hmm Phillies would have home field tho, so I think Rangers-Phillies would be a coin flip but thats me.

  68. Grey

    Grey says:

    @Elijah: Phils staff is much better than the Rangers, so I’d side with the Phils as the favorites, but would root for the Rangers.

  69. @Grey:

    You just said “I think whoever the Rangers face the rest of the way would be the underdogs.”, switching already or misspoke?!

  70. Steve says:

    First miner free…

  71. Steve says:

    @Elijah: Was watching it. Pretty cool.

  72. @Steve:

    Dont they have anything better to show on Kiwi Vee? …Actually, forget I asked, heh.

  73. Black Beard says:

    In a 6×5 plus OPS, what pick do you see Stanton going next year? Realize it’s early, but I’m curious. Thanks.

  74. Grey

    Grey says:

    @Elijah: Sorry, typo… I meant, I think whoever the Rangers face rest of the way, they would be the underdogs. The Rangers, that is.

    @Steve: How long were they down there? Like 2 months?

    @Black Beard: Around the 10th round, will probably change once the hype whips up.

  75. Black Beard says:

    @Grey: Just to clarify, whenever you say X round it’s always 12 team?

  76. DrEasy says:

    It was hard to choose between watching the 9th inning of the game and the miners… I went with the miners, does that make me less of a baseball fanatic?

  77. Simply Fred

    simply fred says:

    @Grey: RE:#26

    Sorry about the confusion.

    Konerko, pre-season unranked, end of season #4 for 2009 had

    Adam Laroche for 2010
    75/25/100/0/.261 maybe makes the leap in 2011.

    Huff, pre-season unranked, end of season #6, for 2009 had

    Gomes for 2010
    77/18/86/5/.266 maybe makes the leap.

  78. Steve says:

    @Grey: 69 days.

    Those guys will need a shower.

  79. DrEasy says:

    @Steve: That place must be stin-ky! Where did they do their #2s?

  80. Steve says:

    @DrEasy: Exactly.

  81. big o says:


    you’re still running hot !!
    get to a crap table .
    QUICK !!!

  82. Grey

    Grey says:

    @DrEasy: It’s okay, I watched Biggest Loser instead of both.

    @simply fred: Ah, I see what you’re saying.

    @Steve: The first guy looked fine.

    @big o: I know!

  83. Neil says:

    @Greg Gallagher: Not sure what the drooling is about. In 2009 you could have gotten Tex in round 1 and Tulo in round 2 – now it’s flipped.

  84. Neil says:

    @peter: Re: Prince, I definitely feel that runs/RBI are fluky. If you have a .275, 30 HR guy hitting 3rd or 4th and playing every day he should get 100 RBI – a few less playing for the Pirates and a few more playing for the BoSox. That being said, in 2009, Prince hit .296 with a 1.049 OPS with RISP compared to .233 with a .753 OPS with RISP in 2010. Prince was terrible with RISP in 2010 so his lack of RBI wasn’t really fluky as much as it was a byproduct of him being terrible with RISP. I don’t watch Prince – I live in NYC – but I remember it took him about a month to hit his first HR and he has extreme good year/bad year splits. To me, that suggests that he presses too much coming off of the good years (“I need 2 HR and 5 or 6 RBI a week to do what I did last year”), which leads to a cold start and a bad year. Just my hunch.

    Re: Loney, he is a big dude and he has extremely good line drive and contact rates. But his power gets worse and worse every year. And I think he should be hitting for a higher AVG based on his size, line drive rate and contact rates – especially since he hits in a big park. His 8-10 steals help a lot – .290-13-75-90-8 is not what you want from a typical 1B, but if you used your early picks on everyone other than a 1B then you will be okay with Loney in the middle rounds – assuming you have abnormally high power coming elsewhere (McCann, Uggla, Tulo, etc.).

  85. Steve says:

    Just read that because he threw 120 pitches yesterday, The Adverb won’t start til Game 3 of the ALCS.

    I know you’ve gotta let the big dog eat, but did the Rangers make an error here? The series could be half over by the time Lee gets to the mound.

  86. Grey

    Grey says:

    @Steve: I was thinking that yesterday. The Rangers are now at a huge disadvantage and will need to out slug the Yanks for multiple games, which can be done, obviously. Don’t think Lee was throwing on three days rest though anyway, since he had never before in his career.

  87. Game 3 and Game 6-7 isn’t so bad in the bigger picture.

  88. Grey

    Grey says:

    @Elijah: They still need someone to win two of the other games.

  89. VinWins

    VinWins says:

    I must admit I have trouble keeping average-killers. I checked how 1 hitter could change your team average. I started with a team hitting .270 in 7000 ABs, and checked what adding 1 player’s stats would do.

    For instance, adding Hamilton’s great year would raise your team average from .270 to .276, while Pena’s .199 would drop the team’s average to .265.

    Anybody who wants to look at it can decide for themselves if it has any meaning.

  90. big o says:

    yankee fans are freaking at the thought of aj burnett toeing the rubber .
    and in their heart of hearts , they know that andy pettitte is going to get shelled .

    should be a good series .

  91. Grey

    Grey says:

    @big o: They should pitch Burnett vs. Lee and just punt that game.

  92. Grey

    Grey says:

    @VinWins: That’s an interesting table, thanks for sharing! But you don’t have just a .270 hitter and Pena. You have .285 guys, .290 guys, .275 guys, .310 guys and maybe one or two below .240.

  93. Steve says:

    @Grey: Any idea what the team batting AVE was on any of your better-performing teams this year?

    If memory serves, you aim for .277, give or take…

  94. Grey

    Grey says:

    @Steve: I just looked up 4 teams: .270 for 10 points out of 15, .271 for 13.5 points out of 20, .271 for 9.5 points out of 14 and .272 for 9 points out of 13. I think .277 might’ve been for 12 teams, that would’ve won average in all but one of my leagues.

  95. Steve says:

    @Grey: You’re right – it did come from the 12-team ‘What does it take to win’ post.

    I was .279 for 9 pts out of 10, .265 for 6 out of 12 and .269 for 7 out of of 12. And .273 for the year in my H2H league – won AVE 11 weeks out of 24.

  96. Grey

    Grey says:

    @Steve: Yeah, small sample sizes and all… But if you’re in the top half, say, getting 8 out of 12 then you’re okay.

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