Chris Davis is so easy to strike out that pitchers should let him get a 4th or 5th strike like you’d give the small-for-his-age kid in little league.  “Good cut, Chris!”  Then the parent who needs anger management screams, “It’s on a freakin’ tee!  Hit the damn ball!”  Davis is also so easy to strike out the Rangers felt like they needed to go out and get someone who is marginally better.  Enter Jorge Cantu.  Or as I like to call him, the guy I told you to sell back at the end of April when his value was at its highest.  Cantu gets a boost in value because he’s now going to be hitting in a lineup with Giant Machine and Hulk Machine, while calling Coors South home.  I’d grab Cantu off waivers if I was hurting at my corner infidel spot.  Meanwhile, Chris Davis heads to the minors to try and reclaim that glory that had Bill James projecting him for, like, 40 homers and 10 steals.  Anyway, here’s what else I saw yesterday in fantasy baseball:

Ian Kinsler – Back to the DL with a strained groin and could be out until the end of August.  Who had July 29th in the ‘Kinsler goes back on DL’ pool?  Kinsler’s officially dropping way down in 2011 drafts.  He might be the fourth Ranger drafted next year.  I smell a sleeper post about him from January Grey.  January Grey, “Leave me alone, I’m watching Jersey Shore.”

Brett Wallace – It’s ironic he’s only a 1st base prospect because he’s getting passed around the majors like a trollop who’s been a lot farther than 1st base.  For those keeping score, he’s gone from STL to OAK in the Matt Holliday deal, OAK to TOR for OF prospect Michael Taylor (whom Toronto got in the Halladay deal), and now from TOR to HOU for OF prospect Anthony Gose.  The book on Walllace is he’s a great hitter with a bad glove (hence the move from 3B to 1B).  Now it’s one thing when STL trades a 1B (when they have Pujols) or when Oakland trades a 1B (Billy Beane likes to keep busy) but when the Lyle Overbay-playing Blue Jays trade a 1B prospect one has to wonder.  Is something wrong here 0r is the Jays GM, Alex the Greek just opa’ing prospects into the fireplace?  Either way, Lance Berkman looks like he’s about to embark on the Casino Bus.  If Wallace gets called up, he’s immediately mixed league material.  He hit 18 homers in 385 minor league ABs this year.  Though it was in the PCL.  BTW, this is the longest blurb ever for a roundup.  I don’t even remember who I was talking about.  Oh, Brett Wallace!  Yeah, he can hit, grab him now in NL-Only leagues, deep mixed leagues and keepers, just in case he’s called up.

Matt Capps – Traded to the Twins for Wilson Ramos, a top catching prospect, and Joe Testa, who throws straight gas, but is still very young.  Look at the Nats making moves!  Too bad Bowden wasn’t still around, he would’ve never stood for that.  As much as I’d prefer to talk about how the Nats can be a serious contender in two years, this is after all a fantasy blog.  If you’re really desperate for saves, I’d hold Rauch just in case he sees some chances or if you need rebounds (he’s tall!), but the Minnesota papers are reporting Capps will close.  I tend to believe the Minnesotans, salt of the earth people yadda2.  Also, if Capps doesn’t close, then it looks even worse that the Twins traded those prospects away.  Gotta keep up appearances, ya know?

Miguel Tejada – Traded to the Padres to play….where?  He could play shortstop with the range of Cal Ripken but that dude’s 50 years old.  He could play 3B and move Headley back to the OF, but is Tejada really a better bat than the Padres worst corner OF?  Maybe, and that’s just sad.

Josh Bell – Will replace Tejada at 3rd base for the Suckie O’s.  Bell’s AL-Only ownable, which is saying very little since Daric Barton is AL-Only material.  Bell needs to get hot before picking up in mixed leagues, or, if you speak street, he needs to be fire on Crunk Juice.

Michael Wuertz – Now Bailey’s headed to the DL.  Wuertz has shown himself to be pretty adept at blowing save opportunities, so he’s no sure thing, but Breslow is?  As German prostitutes like to say, I grabbed Wuertz.  (BTW, whenever I think of a German prostitute, I picture a woman that could have easily been a female wrestler if she just got a few breaks.)

Neil Walker – 1-for-4 with his 5th homer and 2nd in three games.  I’ve knocked him a bunch, but when you’re looking at a Pu-Pu Platter of middle infielders, Walker’s at least hitting.

Matt Diaz – First time I was able to get Diaz into my lineup because it was a short schedule day and he homered.  That’s how you roll the Dye-as!

Miguel Montero – 4 for his last 8 with a homer yesterday.  Instead of just letting their catcher scabs be, I’ve noticed people are dropping Montero.  He could have a solid final two months.

Ian Desmond – 2-for-3 with his 7th homer.  Please make note of this next year when you’re drafting.  A 10/10 guy looks good when you’re drafting him, but when you’re actually waiting for him to get to 10/10 it’s mind numbingly boring.

Scott Olsen – 6 IP, 2 ER, 7 baserunners, 1 K.  He’ll be in this afternoon’s Buy/Sell.  And that’s a promise or my name isn’t Grey “El Toro” Albright.

Drew Storen – Clippard’s been a hot mess for a while now, so I’d grab Storen for saves.  If you’re really hurting for saves, I’d grab Clippard too.  If you’re really, really hurting for saves, I’d grab Sean Burnett. (And I did grab Clippard and Burnett in some leagues — My name is Grey “El Toro” Albright and I am a save vulture.  Please forgive me if I have told you to pick up a guy that has shat on your ratios.  I am powerless to my vulturing.  Anyone got some coffee and cigarettes?)

Ramon Castro – Hit 2 homers yesterday.  Appropriate of nothing, doesn’t his goatee look like a sideways yin and yang symbol?  Maybe it’s me.

Carlos Quentin – 2-for-4 with his 20th home run.  Sweet, now stay healthy for two months and hit.

Raul Ibanez – Hit his 2nd homer in the last week and he just missed his third with a WTF (Warning Track Fly).  Also, hitting near .450 in the last week.

David Price – 6 1/3 IP, 2 ER, 9 baserunners, 9 Ks as he recorded his 14th win.  That sound you hear is the BBWAA preparing their AL Cy Young vote for Price.  Voter, “A team win is the most important thing.  And if a guy pitches with moxie.  That’s important too.”

Anibal Sanchez – 9 IP, 0 ER, 2 baserunners (1 Hit), 8 Ks.  And he’s got a no-hitter on his resume too from 2006.  Pretty impressive given his career WHIP is 1.45.  Kind of feast or famine – fitting for a guy whose name anagrams to He’s Za Cannibal.

  1. fitz says:

    Would you prefer Montero or Soto the rest of the way?

  2. and1mcgee says:

    @fitz: I think it’s a wash.

    Is Roberts going to start hitting or running?

    P.S. I hate when people ask you if players will start hitting. You’re not Greystradomous. So, will he?

  3. Howard says:

    Morning Grey, I have a question for January Grey. SS: Bartlett, Asdrubal or Yunel? Thanks and have a great weekend!

  4. TheEvilEmpire says:

    I’m one of the dudes who dropped Montero as I was also carrying Olivo from Montero’s DL days. When I had to choose between the two, it was Montero and Arizona’s 37 wins, 452 runs scored versus Olivo and Colorado’s 52 wins, 478 runs scored – plus they play in Coors. Needless to say, I stuck with Olivo.

    It seems maybe Olivo’s running low on gas and Montero is making up for his time off.

    I’m going to try to trade Olivo straight up for someone in the next two days. One guy in my league seems to have missed my early week drop of Montero and added Jason Kendall this morning. I’ll try to trade Olivo to him for his Jeter. Otherwise I’m going to swap out Olivo for Montero.

  5. Black Beard says:

    @ All: In need of some quick advice…

    Posey and Hunter for Kemp and M. Young?

  6. barker says:

    kemp and young all day long

  7. ScoutAbout says:

    @Grey et al. Who is the better pick-up to vulture saves–Clippard or Wuertz? Also, in case you didn’t see my post later last night, thanks for the email re: the Longoria for Buck/Ruiz trade. I posted it on the league message board last night. We have 4 objections now, just need one more for commish review, and I am certain this trade will be reviewed. The owner receiving Longoria posted a message saying no collusion, she offered Nellie Cruz for Longoria straight-up and the other team countered with Buck/Ruiz, saying they need catchers (2 in our league). So no collusion, just monumental stupidity on a scale the size of the Grand Canyon. But even with no collusion, that level of stupidity should be overturned, right? I mean, in the interest of keeping the league competitive.

  8. Green Sox says:

    @Grey, Ibanez or Bruce the rest of the way?

  9. ThePoonTycoon says:

    @ScoutAbout: it’s a she? no wonder. :-|

  10. Eddy says:

    Montero or Wieters for the rest of the season Señor Toro?

  11. Jangles says:

    Help! Please rank these guys, I need to replace Piniero:

    Cecil, Ian Kennedy, Anibel Sanchez, Jason Hammel, Livan (???) Hernandez.


  12. ron mexico's papi says:

    @Grey: How much FAAB would you bid for Drew Storen in a 10-team mixed league out of a $100 budget? I’ve only got $35 left, but we are allowed to use $0 bids, so when I run out I can still add players each week, just not ones anyone else wants. I’m in the lead of the league by 9 points (I’m at 73 and 2 teams are at 64), but I can pick up points in saves. Also keep in mind I have Bailey and his sore lower back.

  13. Simply Fred

    simply fred says:

    @ScoutAbout: No collusion, no veto. There is no such thing as “in the interest of keeping the league comptetitive.” Maybe, two catchers WILL raise her standing more than a 3B.

  14. Lost Rauch and Kinsler. Just proposed Sandoval and Niese for Scherzer and Storen. Good?

    Also need a 2B/SS. Hardy, Theriot, Sean Rodriguez, Brignac, Orlando Hudson (DL), Bloomquist, Brignac, Raburn. Leaning towards Hardy, next Theriot.

  15. TheEvilEmpire says:

    @Black Beard: I’d want Kemp side. Especially with Cantu now in the Rangers lineup. Posey will cool off.

  16. AL KOHOLIC says:

    @ron mexico’s papi: bid $0 on breslow or weurtz,id bid on storen but clippard might still get a few also

  17. Frank Rizzo says:

    Does anyone think Storen would be an upgrade over Aardsma or Gregg? Storen’s on our wire but I’m not sure for how long. Is Clippard going to be in the closer chase also?

  18. Earl Battey says:

    I have deep SP in a 12-team AL-only league (ERA, WHIP, K/9, QS, H, SV) with Haren, Hughes, Buchholz, Gio, Liriano and Slowey. We play 4. Some guys only have 3 SPs total, so I’ve been killing a fly with a sledgehammer in the QS category. It’s hard to pry bats away from people. Is it crazy to offer Hughes (who might start to get skipped) for Kinsler (who should be back for our playoffs)? I currently have SRod and Lopez at 2b and Util, so it could be an upgrade. Should I try Slowey first, or would that be insulting?

  19. Another possibility for 2B/SS replacement is Jayson Nix. If he plays everyday I think I’d take him over Hardy.

  20. Grey,

    Great anagram with Anibal.

    I can’t believe I have both Chase Utley and Ian Kinsler (Reeks nullity) in a 12 team keeper and I am looking for a 2B right now. Rhymes since I need the steals…or do you see Theriot as a better option.

    My roster is all bottled up, I would have to drop one of the three pitchers to add a 2B – Cahill, Wandy, or De La Rosa.

    I have been trying to move Wieters since I have Soto, but no one is biting. Do I just outright drop Wieters and not drop any of the pitchers?


  21. AL KOHOLIC says:

    @Frank Kim: yeah i seen where nix should be playing most everyday now,could put up some power numbers

  22. AL KOHOLIC says:

    grey hammels or liriano

  23. @AL KOHOLIC: Yeah I think Nix could be better than Hardy or Theriot.

    @AL KOHOLIC: I like Liriano a lot more than Hammels though not sure who they play next.

  24. ScoutAbout says:

    @ThePoonTycoon: No, actually, the player that gave away Longoria and asked for Buck/Ruiz in return are both a “he.” : )

  25. ThumbScrewed says:

    Andrus has been *awful* lately. Is he getting droppable?

  26. @Grey: Think Capps will stick as the closer? Hold Rausch or dump him for Breslow, Wheeler or Thornton? Everyone else within a whiff of a save is rostered.

    Wondering if I should give up another pick for a dependable closer or just wait until the deadline and see if any other trades open up closer jobs.

  27. @Grey: Clippard’s available too (great). Him over Rausch?

  28. Howie Met Your Mother says:

    So I guess I lost Kinsler for awhile. After a few “sell highs”, I’ve got a surplus of top starters: Lester, Felix, JV and Lincecum. I just got offered Weeks for Felix. Is Weeks alone a fair trade for any of those guys? He also has Hughes, Niemann, Romero, De La Rosa and Clayton Richard that I could try to get in a package.

  29. ThePoonTycoon says:

    @simply fred: do you realize how hard it is to “prove” collusion? especially when as you get older and play fantasy baseball with HS or college buddies or your friend’s friends and don’t see the people on the regular?

    i’m sorry but buck/ruiz from the 1st place team to the last place team in return for longoria is probably the worst trade i’ve ever seen in fantasy baseball. we aren’t talking mauer/a healthy vmart. john buck. carlos ruiz.

    i am against veto’ing trades 99.9% of the time too, but this is the 0.1% of the time i would veto.

  30. Critter Nagurski says:

    idea for offseason post: joe nathan’s value

    1 yr would be a quick turnaround from tj, and the twins seem like they have five guys that can handle the 9th inning – don’t know how many of them stay though

  31. ThE sHiT says:

    @Grey: Now that Brown is up, and Snider is coming back this wknd (crosses fingers), who do u like better 4 overall production? Still got Boesch cuz Brown went on waivers once he was added to the pool in our league :(
    He clears on Sunday n i got the 13/16 priority.
    I also proposed Beckham or KelJo 4 Bruce. No answer yet. I hope Bruce learns u still have monumental faith in him so he can get his shizz 2gthr. BTW, Alex Gordon 4 gm hitting streak. He has OF elig now in my league. Let me know when its time to start considering him. Prolly after a gd wknd of hitting, hopefully 4 xtra bases. Sorry 4 the multiple pts. Gotta get em in b4 i get ready 4 wk. Thx dude!

  32. Boo Artest says:

    Montero or Carlos Santana the rest of the way?

    With Santana slumping, leaning Mountainero

  33. GopherDay says:

    I’m an avid gas thrower as well…

  34. Terrence Mann says:

    The Twins gave up Ramos for Capps? What the hell? Capps is probably now the fifth best reliever in their bullpen. Hard to believe they couldn’t have gotten more for Ramos.

    That’s officially the worst trade this season since Grey’s Cano deal.

  35. Simply Fred

    simply fred says:

    Grey, what’s Hudson’s value with he going to AZ in exchange for Jackson?

  36. bruce says:

    Looking ahead – in a keeper league, I can only keep 2 of the following pitchers:
    Tommy Hunter
    Jason Hammel
    Bud Norris
    Jordan Zimmermann
    Justin Masterson

    Which 2 have the best future value?

    Also, should I have the Ham & Cheese for lunch or PB&J?

  37. Simply Fred

    simply fred says:

    @ThePoonTycoon: Do you play 2-catcher league? I don’t, so I really can’t assess it accurately. Just seems that 2 catchers in that format may have significant value. Regardless, today’s stupidity can be tomorrow’s brilliance. It’s base-a-ball. You just never know. I have seen many apparent lopsided trades, pan out the other way. Without PROOF (and, yes, it should be tough to prove) of collusion, veto–no goodt.

  38. Grey

    Grey says:

    @fitz: Soto

    @and1mcgee: Ha… I don’t see why he’d do anything.

    @Howard: Asdrubal

    @TheEvilEmpire: Gotcha

    @Black Beard: Agree with below.

    @ScoutAbout: Wuertz… No problem, that trade was colossally bad.

    @Green Sox: Ibanez…

    @Eddy: Montero

    @Jangles: Anibal, Kennedy, Hammel, Cecil…

    @ron mexico’s papi: $12

    @Frank Kim: Trade’s kinda eh. Theriot…

    @Frank Rizzo: Nope

    @Earl Battey: I’d try Slowey first, I’d do Hughes though.

    @bostonbeerman: Theriot… Don’t own two catchers…The anagram was Rudy.

    @AL KOHOLIC: Hamels…

    @ThumbScrewed: Nope

    @3FingersBrown: Clippard over Rauch.

    @Howie Met Your Mother: It’s a little in the other guy’s favor, but fair if you need a 2nd baseman.

    @Critter Nagurski: Yeah, good call.

    @ThE sHiT: Brown… No problem… Have a good day.

    @Boo Artest: Montero

    @GopherDay: Ha!

    @Terrence Mann: Ha! I hate you. Emoticon. Cano’s batting .230 the last month.

    @simply fred: Same as it was in the AL for this year. Risky, rookie pitcher.

    @bruce: Ham and cheese…Zimmermann and Norris…

  39. I'm so Prado of you says:

    Who’s closing for the Nats now?

  40. @Grey: Thanks Grey! I thought you might like Nix over Theriot but Theriot does have more of a track record.

  41. Jah says:

    Grey, with Bailey hitting the DL today, in what order would you pick up the following guys:
    Storen, Simon, Chris Perez, Lidge, Wuertz?


  42. Simply Fred

    simply fred says:

    @ThePoonTycoon: BTW: Yesterday I traded Adam Jones for Kerry Wood. Responses included:

    “I’ve never seen anything like this. Does fred know how fantasy baseball works?”

    “at first i couldnt tell if he was just fucking with us….”

    Well, my OF is so strong that over the past 30 days, Adam Jones provided the least production. I needed to clear a roster spot and thought that I might as well try to pick up saves (that I need).

    Subsequently traded my Votto for Braun/D. Brown/I. Davis. With Luke Scott just gaining 1B eligibility (he has been pretty decent) I am willing to risk the upside. What do you think of this one?

  43. Simply Fred

    simply fred says:

    @Grey: Noticed you labeled the trade “colassally bad”. Do YOU VETO it?

  44. @Grey: Think I should pick up Clippard for Rausch immediately or take a chance and see what happens the first time Capps gets into a save op? I’m not so confident that Capps will be all that good. Then again neither was Rausch.

  45. MeanMachine says:

    @Grey: Drop Perez for Wuertz?

  46. Simply Fred

    simply fred says:

    @Frank Rizzo: “According to Fox Sports’ Ken Rosenthal, the White Sox are “still in play” for Nationals slugger Adam Dunn. A three team trade that would send Dunn to Chicago, Daniel Hudson to Arizona and Edwin Jackson to Washington is apparently in the works.”

  47. Frank Rizzo says:

    @simply fred: Why would anyone get excited about Edwin Jackson?

  48. Simply Fred

    simply fred says:

    @Frank Rizzo: Agreed! But, the Dunn move might be of interest. :-)

  49. Eddie says:


    Try to be unbiased here:

    Beckham or Stewart rest of the way? Gotta drop one of them.

  50. TheBravesWearPrado says:

    Grey have you ever shared your thoughts on Jon Jay? I searched the site but couldn’t find any posts about him. I’ve been keeping tabs on him for a while now waiting for him to fizzle out but his performance has been too good for me to hold out any longer so I added him today.

  51. Euroalien says:

    Grey or anyone…… In a 12 team, 5 x 5 Keeper (Max 8) would you trade David Price for Delmon Young? I’m 5 pts out of the $$$$ – I could use some help in HRs, Runs, RBIs and Avg….. but I’m also struggling in K’s…… losing Price won’t help me there, but the offset in offense might give me a boost overall. How does it sound from a long term keeper perspective?

  52. royce! says:

    From mlb’s Nationals website, “With Capps gone, the Nationals will split the closer’s duties between Sean Burnett, Tyler Clippard and Drew Storen.”

    So, I suppose if you grabbed Burnett you should be psyched, but I was banking on Storen taking over. I think it’ll probably end up with Storen as the closer, but this might be a redux of the Tampa Bay pre-Soriano debacle.

  53. peter says:

    @royce!: Stipparnett is the new Wheelfourson (though I don’t remember what the TB conglomeration was)

  54. Fletch says:

    @Grey: Niemann or Floyd? Also, would you trade Krispie of Swisher straight up for Kershaw or Cain?

  55. Simply Fred

    simply fred says:

    @Grey: You sleep with the fishes. :-)

    (sorry, I HATE, HATE, HATE vetoes)

  56. peter says:

    @Fletch: Did you know that Floyd hasn’t allowed more than 2 ER in a game since June 2? I’d go w/ Floyd. And I’d rather have Krispie and Kershaw.

  57. bravo says:

    start ervin santana vs Tex?

  58. Sandoval for Gavin Floyd? Sandoval for Strasburg?

  59. Grey

    Grey says:

    @peter: JP Wheelfourson – yeah, ha!

    @Fletch: Agree with Peter.

    @simply fred: I agree with Poon. I wouldn’t veto 99.9%, but some trades are actually detrimental to a league. Last place trading scraps for a current top 15 guy needs to be stopped. In fact, the guy (or girl) getting Longoria should apologize to the league and say they’ll try and do better.

    @bravo: Sure…

  60. Howie Met Your Mother says:


    Follow up to my Kinsler DL options: What do you think about me sending Verlander & Hammel for Jonathan Sanchez and Zobrist? The rest of my starters are Lester, Felix, Lincecum, Floyd, Lilly, Zimermann.

  61. @Grey: Yeah none of those options thrill me. I can see Capps getting lit up first time out and Rausch keeping his job.

    In the mean time, I’m shopping a bat (Willingham) or picks around around to see if I can grab a $12 salad. Some decent options available and if Dunn’s moved, I think JWill loses a little value.

    Could also move Swish or McGehee, since I now have Dunn who can play CI.

  62. Howie Met Your Mother says:

    And if you like the trade, would you rather have Zobrist/Sanchez or Weeks/Hughes?

  63. Terrence Mann says:


    Really can’t blame you for hating me. Instead of offering fellatio (like another responder I will not name), I point out your crappy trades, argue with you about Rios, and won’t let you forget you had no business ranking Grady Sizemore as high as you did preseason.

    What can I say? This is my outlet.

  64. Howard says:

    @Grey For what it’s Wuertz should I drop Simon to pick up Wuertz? I mean what the Wuertz I can do?

  65. Frank Rizzo says:

    @Grey: Grey, I’m trying really hard to see the upside of Ian Stewart over Beckham? Maybe HR’s but is it enough to make up for the BA?

  66. ThePoonTycoon says:

    @simply fred: well i think you undersold adam jones. if wood was healthy, i am fine with the trade, but for a currently injured and oft-injured closer for one of MLB’s worst teams?

    if you are desperate for saves and decide you are definitely gonna trade adam jones for saves, there is no problem with posting a league wide email (or message board posting if people check the board often) stating that you are wanting to trade jones for saves, and you will be accepting the best offer you’ve received in 2 days. if wood is the best and everyone bitches about you selling him short, then you can say that you opened the bidding to everyone and that was the best offer you got.

    usually when i see a trade like that though, i assume that person got in their head they wanted to trade adam jones and sold him at first offer.

  67. Fletch says:

    @peter: I think I phrased that wrong. Would you trade Swisher or Krispie straight up for either Kershaw, Cain or Floyd? Who would you trade first, Swisher? And for what pitcher first, Kershaw?


  68. hoju says:

    I haven’t read this thread, so I don’t know if it’s been asked yet….

    Will Wood get his job back once he returns from the DL, or is Perez still the closer?

  69. ThePoonTycoon says:

    @simply fred: and carlos ruiz is the current 27th rated fantasy catcher, and 462 overall according to cbs player rater. so don’t give me the 2 catcher crap. you’d probably be better off with an empty C slot and longoria than you would with ruiz.

  70. Simply Fred

    simply fred says:

    @Grey: Just keep your opinion to yourself. Oh, that might not work ….

    Just keeding. :-)

    I appreciate the perspective. I know I am on the out ledge for no vetoes.

  71. @Grey: Thanks! What would all these 1000’s of readers do w/o you? :-)

  72. Simply Fred

    simply fred says:

    @ThePoonTycoon: Really, you would know better than I. I have no knowledge of 2-catcher leagues. I just don’t like vetoes–apparently, my personal problem.

  73. @hoju: I heard Wood got his job back already.

  74. ThePoonTycoon says:

    in one of my leagues someone just traded mauer for j-up.

    the league board went crazy about the “awful” trade. i posted that i thought the upton side was the clear and easy winner, especially given the mauer owner had posey to plug and play. i was then blasted by everyone. it’s been awfully quite since i posted the statistical analysis.

    the sad part is that i’m in the middle of the pack in this league due to haren’s april/may and beckett’s april dragging down my pitching ratios.

  75. peter says:

    @Fletch: If you could get Kershaw for Swisher, it’d be a steal. I’d also be willing to give up Krispie for Kershaw, too.

  76. If you are trying to poach saves, and ever body and their Eckersley is owned, would you go Wuertz or Clippard?

    …Defy the Laws of Tradition…

  77. tHe sHiT says:

    @Grey: Thx sir. Lookin 4ward 2 another possible celeb sighting.

  78. ThePoonTycoon says:

    @simply fred: also fwiw, i think the party getting completely ripped off should have the opportunity to explain their position and defend the trade to the league before veto decisions are made. obviously the team getting longoria’s opinion shouldn’t matter since they know they know they are getting longoria for 1 cent on the dollar.

  79. Is there a website where you can find out whom a starter will be pitching against for the rest of the season? I’m kind of tired of looking at team calendars and counting every 5th day. :-)

  80. peter says:

    @XNadyMen: For now I’d go with Weurtz.

    @ThePoonTycoon: I agree; give the party accused of being ripped an opportunity to defend the trade. If they can’t/won’t, then let the self-righteous indignation commence. Earlier this year, I got all Jack McCoy on a terrible trade that couldn’t be defended. Ultimately, a couple early draft picks were thrown in to make things a little more fair.

  81. hoju says:

    Can you rank the following, please and thx. Only SVs, no Holds.

    K Wood

  82. peter says:

    @hoju: This will be clearer for me in the next 24 hours, but I think it’ll shake out like: Aardsma, Storen, Wood, Wuertz, Simon, Perez, Clippard, Gutierrez

    Caveat emptor, after Aardsma, most of those are a push. And that’s if Aardsma doesn’t get traded.

  83. barker says:

    20 team league c 1b 2b 3b ss lf cf rf util
    my nine man lineup is set
    have 2b 3b ss fe lopez rf d brown cf fowler lf rf snider dl lowell on the bench

    need lopez to back up infidels need fowler to back up dread pirate so who to keep between brown snider lowell when lowell comes back

    will brown stay up after victorino comes back??? should i be shopping him for any pitching i can get from a philly phan
    im a met fan who doesn’t normally own phillies but i like brown what to do??

    you’re giving out lunch advice now also — thats awesome

  84. I'm so Prado of you says:

    @Grey: Post doesn’t say?

  85. @Grey: I don’t get it. Was Matthew Berry asking for the same thing?

  86. peter says:

    @barker: I’d cut Lowell in favor of giving Snider a chance. Lowell doesn’t have a clear path to playing time.

    Demonic will stick around if he plays well. Or, he’ll stick around if he’s ok and Ibanez stays terrible. Keep in mind that he’s going to be sitting against (some) lefties. If you can get something nice for him, I’d make the deal. But it it’s a keeper, don’t go selling him for a brain freeze.

    Regarding lunch, I think it depends on the format. If Smuckers Goober Grape is available, it’s definitely worth a flier.

  87. Grey

    Grey says:

    @hoju: Aardsma, Wood, Storen, Perez…Agree with Peter though, could change by the hour.

    @barker: Lose Lowell. But depends what you can get for Brown.

    @I’m so Prado of you: “Clippard’s been a hot mess for a while now, so I’d grab Storen for saves. If you’re really hurting for saves, I’d grab Clippard too. If you’re really, really hurting for saves, I’d grab Sean Burnett.”

    @Frank Kim: You asked what would people do without me, and I said they’d ask Matthew Berry. Was just kidding.

  88. @Grey: Oh, I misunderstood. I thought you were replying to my question about finding a site that tells you about starter’s future games.
    I prefer asking you to Matthew Berry. :-)

  89. peter says:

    @Frank Kim: Without Razzball, we’d be reduced to Matthew Berry talking about how attractive Anne Hathaway may or may not be – and a pinch of fantasy thrown in for good measure… with analysis “from the gut” – kind of like how Dusty Baker manages.

  90. barker says:

    yea will probably wait the weekend to see if lowell moves anywhere

    sent an offer to a kid with team name “philly in ’10” brown for nolasco but prolly too much to ask — i know of at least one other philly fan in the league so i will wait for the response from the first hope he counters with something good

  91. barker says:

    ham and cheese definitely right choice good call grey

    next people will be asking about their sub prime mortgage rates…

  92. Goose says:

    Phil Hughes @ TB or Wade LeBlanc vs FLA at home?

    Hughes has been harshin my mellow lately, but he’s been great on the road this year (2.36 ERA, .225 BAA). TB is def a danger zone, while LeWhite has been very good at Petco (2.36 ERA, .261 BAA) and the Marlins taint nothing special. I’m torn here. Could also pick up Wade Davis and pitch Hughes/Davis head-to-head to go after a W, but the idea of streaming a guy against the Yanks gives me the shrivels.

  93. peter says:

    @Goose: Stick with LeBlanc, the Hodgepadre. Chasing wins by starting Hughes/Davis usually ends in tears.

  94. Who the Fuck is Karim Garcia?!?! I mean, Who the Fuck is Matthew Berry??!?!

  95. peter says:

    ******Edwin Jackson traded to the White Sox for Hudson and a pitching prospect. If Jackson had any fantasy value right now, I’d say it would take a hit.

  96. BMcP says:

    Probably EJax just stopping in Chicago en route to DC

  97. matthole says:

    @simply fred: Fred, you were missing the point. The fact that you traded BOTH josh hamilton AND grandy FOR a package headlined by Adam Jones a few weeks earlier only to trade jones FOR wood is what people dont understand.

    You essentially traded josh hamilton and grandy for wood…..

    hence, i couldnt tell if youre fucking with us…..not the first time that you traded for a player only to dump him to the curb a few weeks later.

    talk about a turnaround: check out these RCL TRADES!!!

    -Beckett for carlos pena
    -greinke and andrew bailey for tulo
    -figgins and broxton for werth…then werth and price for PUJOLS
    – adam jones, wilson valdez, coco crisp for josh hamilton and grandy

    C – Santana
    1B – pujols
    2b – Kendrick
    ss- tulo
    MI – walker
    CI – morneau
    OF – holliday
    OF – hamilton
    OF – Span
    OF – Grandy
    OF – Damon
    UTIL – C. Pena

  98. royce! says:

    So it looks like Edwin Jackson is headed to Chicago, and, though it hasn’t been confirmed, people seem to assume it would be for Daniel Hudson. I thought this would raise Hudson’s value, so I checked him out in my 14 team league, but learned that he basically has been pitching poorly against teams that, except for KC, I would argue are worse than those in the NL West– v. KC he gave up 5 R in 4 IP; @ SEA he did better (1 ER, 6.2 IP, but still walked 4); and then @OAK he gave up 5 ER in 5 IP, and again walked 4. After the KC start, I read a lot of stuff explaining it was first game jitters. After the second, that he had the jitters behind him and was fulfilling expectations. And after the third, I read nothing.

  99. matthole says:

    oh, and david wright at 3B

  100. herschel says:

    Hudson have any value pitching in the NL West?

  101. bruce says:

    The Ham & Cheese was fantastic.

  102. Bill Lumbergh says:

    @ Grey et al: Trade my Andrus, Nolasco, & Jaso for his Reyes, Scherzer, & Soto? 12 team H2H dynasty league. Thanks!

  103. @peter: Don’t forget innumerable Jonas Brothers shouts. *face meet palm*

    Some guys have a lot of nerve. I post that I’m in the market for a top notch closer and one seller offers me Dotel or Drew (who he grabbed off of waivers yesterday). Can’t blame him for trying, but really? I can get Clippard off of waivers. I don’t think I’ll dignify his offer with a response.

  104. Frank Rizzo says:

    @BMcP: If that’s the case, why wouldn’t it have just been a 3 way deal? If this is all the White Sox get out of the weekend, I’m fine with it as a Tiger fan.

  105. poot says:

    Should I drop Rauch for Breslow in a 14 team league?

  106. Fletch says:

    @Grey: Gallardo/Swisher for Niemann/Floyd?

  107. barker says:

    20 team league shallow hlds

    dotel for zito or padilla
    also on a lark put out d brown and dotel for dread pirate or ethier wont happen most likely

    have storen axford c perez venters benoit with no room for the extra RP and could use another starter

    is dotel getting traded and if not at the deadline through waivers maybe???
    SP are santana pelfrey de la rosa kershaw vasquez dl zimmermann

  108. Simply Fred

    simply fred says:

    @ThePoonTycoon: You make a point that sounds good (re: a chance to defend one’s self). However, often people come from different perspectives (frequently based on the how they drafted someone). It gets tedious trying to have to explain the layers that one considers, only to find out the explanation falls on not-understanding ears.

    Point of reference: Matthole’s comments. He questions nearly every trade. Sometimes after the trade “oh, I understand”. More often: “fred is just stupid.”

    I’ve learned everyone has their own biases and it’s OK for them to have them. I’d just prefer not to have to give them all of my inside thinking every time it’s a trade they might not make. Nevertheless, I do it when challenged.

    Inspite of the angst of some, I still haven’t had a trade vetoed.

  109. Wah says:

    Youk and Byrd for Braun?

    how about:

    Youk and Lind for Braun?

    Without getting in to specifics about my team… just know that I can keep up to 6. Youk and Braun would be potential keepers… Lind and Byrd are not.


  110. Grey

    Grey says:

    @Fletch: I’d take Gallardo.

    @barker: I’d take Padilla. Dotel could get traded.

    @Wah: I’d give Byrd or Lind in that order for Braun.

  111. Wah says:

    BJ Upton hit the wire.. is he worth an add? I’d have to drop: Carlos Lee, Jason Bay, Dominic Brown, or Brett Cecil.

  112. Slam says:

    First utley gets injured and I deal ubaldo for kinsler and now… Ian Stewart is a free agent along with figgins. Who do u like more? I need everything hitting wise. Also should I pick up Carlos lee for jay Bruce ? Thanks g

  113. Grey

    Grey says:

    @Wah: Lose Bay

    @Slam: Id’ take Figgy for steals, Stewart for power. I wouldn’t drop Bruce for Lee.


  114. big o says:

    the problem with taking the high road ==> No Vetoes …EVER ….
    is that , eventually , when push comes to shove , and you reconcile yourself with the fact that you just can’t play in a league where the level of competition is SO out-of-balance , (i’m talking owner acumen , here , and not current rosters) that you find yourself with no option but to withdraw from the league .

    in one-year leagues , you can just chalk it up to being “suckered” , again .

    but , in keeper leagues , the effect is a “dummy-ing” down , where strong competitors flee , and the league is left with a revolving-door situation of trying to find new owners to take over weak teams against a few super-powers , who feel that fleecing someone is what a good league is all about .

  115. Simply Fred

    simply fred says:

    @big o: Yet, again, valid and appreciated perspective. I may have to becoming less unyielding.

    Yes, I am capable of learning beyond the age of 60…

    Yes, I am capable of learning beyond the age of 60…

    Yes, I am capable of learning beyond the age of 60…

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