Jered Weaver will not make his final start of the year because he doesn’t care about your H2H team.  Weaver ends the season with a line of 18-8/2.41/1.01/198.  If you throw out three bad starts, his ERA would’ve been 1.72 in 220 innings, but if if’s and but’s were candy and nuts no one would ever leave the bathroom.  Verlander’s gonna win the Cy Young, shizz is foregone.  Put it in an envelope and hand it to your mail carrier so he can steam it open and check it for cash.  Either way, let’s look at what Weaver did this year.  Mullet over, if you will.  Weaver was better last year.  Blunt is as blunt does right there.  His K-rate, xFIP and hair were all better.  His K-rate this year was right in line with past rates, if you exclude 2010.  For now, last year looks like the outlier for Ks.  Also, batters made contact with his pitches inside the strike zone at a higher rate than last year and hitters weren’t as fooled by pitches outside the strike zone.  In the end, he’s not going to be terrible in 2012; it’s just a repeat of 2011 seems unlikely, unless Superman circles the earth a few hundred times.  Anyway, here’s what else I saw yesterday in fantasy baseball:

Ryan Zimmerman – Sitting out the last two games with a sore hamstring.  What’s this, the last few days of senior year and he’s already going to his safety school?  Play the games!

Alex Gonzalez – Left the game after aggravating his calf.  That’s the last time he says he likes his hamstring better.

Jose Reyes – 3-for-6 as he hit two homers yesterday.  That hit the spot in one of my leagues.  It was like the Kool-Aid man crashing through your wall and yelling “Oh, yeah!” then spackling the hole over because no one wants a giant hole in their wall.

Chris Capuano – 6 IP, 3 ER, 6 baserunners, 9 Ks.  Ended the season with a 4.55 ERA.  Crapuano was pretttay, pretttay mediocre.

Jeanmar Gomez – 4 2/3 IP, 8 ER.  Watching this game yesterday I felt like everyone screaming at Rocky to throw in the towel to save Apollo’s life.  Jesus effin’ Montero, they had to let Gomez give up eight earned with no lifeline?  Throw him a freakin’ bone and pull him from the G-d damn game!  Fantasy baseball:  When real life stress isn’t enough.

Asdrubal Cabrera – Done for the year.  Back date this to last Thursday when I thought he was done for the year.

Prince Fielder – 3-for-3, 5 RBIs and 3 homers.  Then the soon-to-be free agent, Prince, changed his name to a symbol — $.

Howie Kendrick – Left the game with a sprained wrist.  He’s day-to–Oh, yeah, today’s the last day.  Didn’t the season just start?  I’m sad.

Matt Joyce – 1-for-4, 3 RBIs and his 19th homer.  Member when he was the meow’s cat early in the season?  Oh, those were the days.  It was warm out!  You had more hair!  Okay, now for another friendly reminder — grab everyone on the Braves, Cardinals, Rays and Red Sox.  If there’s a one game playoff, you want to be the one with these guys, not the schmohawk you’re trying to beat.

Matt Holliday – Pulled from the game because of his injured middle finger.  Some of his owners might have a healthy middle finger for him.

Allen Craig – 2-for-3, 4 RBIs and a homer as he replaced Holliday.  Yeah, I’d even grab Craig for that potential one day playoff game.

Tyler Flowers – Hit two homers in the last two games.  It’s too late for this year, but please, White Sox, do the right thing and give him a chance to play.  I’m begging here.

Adam Dunn – 0-for-3 with 3 Ks, bringing his average to .159.  Elias Sports Bureau said there’s never been a player that hit less than half his weight until Adam Dunn.  Actually, they didn’t say that, but something that was heard around the Elias Sports Bureau compound, “Terry, in Human Resources, broke the previous record of seventeen with how many times someone’s blamed a fart on a ceiling fan.”

Justin Upton – After being hit in the head by a pitch on Sunday, he returned to the lineup yesterday and was hit in the face by a fly ball.  In the playoffs, Upton will wear a glove on his head.

Jarrod Parker – 5 2/3 IP, 0 ER, 5 baserunners, 1 K.  Okay, start the hype machine for next year.

Mike Morse – For his 30th homer on Monday, Livan bought him a bottle of Cristal.  Yesterday, Morse hit his 31st homer.  For that, Livan gave him a lap dance.

Mike Napoli – Two homers yesterday vs. his old club, and specifically his old manager who never played him.  That revenge had to feel sweet for Napoli.  Remember, never get involved in a land war in Asia and never go against Napoli when pride is on the line.  He takes 28 homers, and even more remarkably, a .317 average into the final game of the season.

Ian Kinsler – 3-for-5 with a slam & legs to finally get him to 30/30.  This quest for 30/30 reminded me of an actor doing a movie for a paycheck.  30/30 is Kinsler’s Little Fockers.

Josh Willingham – 1-for-4, 3 RBIs and a home run.  That gives him 29 homers and 98 RBIs on the year.  This blew Rudy’s mind yesterday on IM.  “You see Willingham’s almost at 30/100?”  “Yeah, I saw.” “I have nothing else to say about that.”  “Neither do I.”

Ryan Lavarnway – With Salty and Varitek banged up, Lavarnway got the start and hit two homers yesterday.  Similarly to Tyler Flowers, I’d love to see Lavarnway get a starting job next year.  Do it for all of Ryan’s fans.  You know, the Lavarnwayians.  Who are not related to Damon, Marlon, Kim, Keenan, Elvira, Michael, Kyla, Bella, Shawn, Damien (have I mentioned Damien yet?), Daphne, Jolie, Bella, Nadia, Shawn Howell, Chaunté and Craig.

Marco Scutaro – 2-for-4, 2 RBIs, home run, hitting near .400 in September.  What-what?!  Actually the what-what was what I just mentioned.

Chris Parmelee – 2-for-4 with a homer and in the same game Tosoni hit a grand slam.  Parmelee and Tosoni?  Sounds like rejected cast members of The Jersey Shore.

Delmon Young – 3-for-5, 3 RBIs and his 12th homer.  I feel like every year drafting Delmon is like falling for the ol’ banana-in-the-tailpipe.

Anthony Bass – 5 IP, 1 ER, 7 baserunners, 2 Ks.  Sweet… if I didn’t start Jeanmar and Blake Beavan.

Javier Vazquez – 9 IP, 2 ER, 5 baserunners, 9 Ks.  He only pitched this well to end the season because I dropped him in all of my leagues three months ago.  Oh, and I blame Steve Bartman too.

Emilio Bonifacio – 2-for-3 with his 40th steal.  I’m in the process of writing up top 20 recaps that will be on the site next week.  You wanna know one guy that really surprised me?  Steve Lombardozzi.  No, Random Italicized Voice, not Steve LombardozziEmilio Bonifacio.  Didn’t realize what a great year he ended up having.  I mean, I should.  I only wrote 1500 words a day about fantasy baseball for the last 6 months.  Imagine I wrote all of that in a spiral notebook.  You’d have me committed.  It’s all about the medium!

Jimmy Rollins – 3-for-5, 2 RBIs, 2 runs and a slam & legs.  Now has 16 homers and 30 steals.  You know, you could’ve done worse at shortstop.  Hanley comes to mind.  He would’ve been worse.  On a side note, I wonder if the Phils don’t want the Braves in the playoffs or they’re just doing the honorable thing by playing their regulars.  I’m guessing it’s the latter.

Joe Blanton – Will start the season finale for the Phillies, which will set up their rotation perfectly for Blanton to return to pitch Game 6 of the NLDS.

  1. Shawn Williams says:

    Hey Grey I currently have a 7-3 lead in H2H, but the lead is quite narrow as I am only winning by 4 runs, 1 SB, .004 for avg, 1 save and lost my lead in ERA to losing by 0.04, and am leading WHIP by 0.01. So I can possibly lose it all on my last day. My opponent has Rick Porcello starting tomorrow and I have Stephen Strasburg. Should I gamble to retake ERA or should I let him start Porcello and leave it to chance he won’t have an amazing game?

  2. Michael says:

    Thanks for another season, Grey. This is the second time I have fantasy baseballed (more of a fantasy basketballer) and I’m happy to report I’m taking down my work league (pride only) and one of my two cbs public leagues (some pride, mostly money). Only site I read all season was this here razzball, and I’ll be back next year. Have a good off-season, razzballers.

  3. Awesomus Maximus

    Awesomus Maximus says:

    After months of anticipation, I can’t believe it’s finally here… the premiere of The Real World: San Diego at 10 PM EST!

    Thanks for another fun season, gents. Off the top of my head, the title that sticks in my mind most is “All A Fire Lind Loves Taters.” And I never even owned Lind for a minute! Looking forward to the end of season awards.

  4. MrHappyTime says:

    Dempster, Harrison, Chen or Leblanc for today? Need a win..

  5. chata says:

    remember to pitch hamels today .
    more likely to get the win than blanton .

  6. Oilcan Giuseppe says:

    I really think all h2h leagues should end the wk before the last wk of real baseball.One of my leagues did and it worked out real nice.All these players sitting for no good reason sucks.

    Willingham was actually available on waivers in two 10 team leagues THIS wk….and he’ll probably be drafted in the 21st rd next yr

  7. Mike Adamson says:

    Best article title ever!

  8. chris says:

    @Oilcan Giuseppe: Agreed, I lost Sabathia and Weaver this past week….now I will be relying on Bruce Chen and Alfredo Simon to win me a championship….I personally think if I lose Scosocia should mail me a check with the difference between 1st and 2nd

  9. Kilgore Trout says:

    Excellent stuff today(Prince changing his name to $)-Perfect! Thanks for all the info this year. This is the one site that I read everyday.

  10. SpecialFNK says:

    thanks for all the help this season. your site is one of the best for fantasy baseball. it’s awesome that every day you are here to help people.

    might be late for this as it’s the last day and no more pitchers can be picked up. but I know at least in yahoo if you’re close to your IP max you can still start everyone and go over and still have all the pitching stats count. there’s no way for yahoo to know which IP to count, so they all do. I have 9 IP left but 6 starters going today.

    I’m in 1st place with a 4 point lead, but there are still areas I could lose in, like W. I need the wins.

    I have these 6 starters going in the available spots..
    Myers vs Cardinals, LeBlanc vs Cubs, Strasberg vs Nationals, Volstad vs Marlins, Harrison vs Angels, Volquez vs Mets.
    I’m not really worried about ERA/WHIP. I’m 1st in both of those categories.
    my ERA/WHIP- 3.00/1.12. the next closest are 3.25/1.17. I know I’m safe in WHIP, but not sure even on a bad day if 3.00 could become close to 3.25.

    that leaves me with 2 RP spots for 4 closers.
    which 2 of these 4 closers should I use today hoping for a SV?
    Rivera – Yankees(undecided) vs Rays(Price?)
    Bell – Padres(LeBlanc) vs Cubs(Dempster)
    Axford – Brewers(Greinke?) vs Pittsburgh(Locke)
    Guerra – Dodgers(Lilly) vs Diamonbacks(Saunders)

  11. IowaCubs

    IowaCubs says:

    Poor Bartman.

  12. Duck'sPants says:

    I had to lower the requirements to 100 AB in a season but here’s a list of players to finish with an AVG less than half of their listed weight – all of them pitchers

    Dave DavenportP 1915 130 220 0.092
    Red Donahue P 1902 118 187 0.093
    Art Fromme P 1912 103 178 0.087
    Ned Garvin P 1903 106 160 0.075
    Lefty Grove P 1933 105 190 0.086
    Randy Jones P 1976 103 178 0.058
    Tim Keefe P 1892 117 185 0.085
    Sandy Koufax P 1963 110 210 0.064
    Sandy Koufax P 1966 118 210 0.076
    Dutch Leonard P 1917 104 185 0.087

  13. Steakstreak says:

    After harvesting Hanley, Hanson, Pedroia and Weaver for their sweet sweet draft picks, which three coagulate to form the best young nucleus in 2012?

    Strasburg and Hosmer are probably locks in the 20th and 21st.
    Then I’m looking at: Bumgarner (14), Beachy (22), Shields (21), LoMo (18)

    I’m betting about 1/2 of my league gives up early picks, (one has Agon, Tulo, and Bautista 1,2,3), so there’s a chance that the draft will be very kind to me. I won’t be a goat until next season but for now, how can I become a hero?

  14. Steakstreak says:

    Oh, and should I grab Harper, just for kicks?

  15. Three True Outcomes says:

    Starting Line-up question – tied for runs, rbis. Do I start rasmus and/or dunn over holliday? Anyone know matt’s status? Need bodies for counting stats and rasmus and dunn play early afternoon. Would hate to start those bums only to find out Holliday will play. Or vice versa – bench those tards watch them have a decent game and lose on holliday tonight. Any thoughts/update on holliday?

  16. Feeding the Abscess

    Feeding the Abscess says:

    I had Javy for his first month of resurgence, then hatedropped him after he and Nolasco fartbombed against in consecutive days against the Padres.

    Clearly should have dropped Nolasco, not Vazquez.

  17. cj says:

    Thanks much for the help all season.

    Question on one-game playoffs: will ESPN allow us to set rosters for tomorrow’s potential games, or will we only get points if the player is in our active lineup? I ask because there’s currently no date tab for Thursday’s games.

  18. Grey

    Grey says:

    @Shawn Williams: Start Strasburg

    @Michael: No problem, glad you’re winning.

    @Awesomus Maximus: I like the preview saying ‘and this girl we’re not sure is a girl.’ That was a good title, that was Rudy.

    @MrHappyTime: Dempster

    @Oilcan Giuseppe: Yeah, agreed.

    @Mike Adamson: Thanks!

    @Kilgore Trout: No problem, hope it helped.

    @SpecialFNK: No problem. Bell, Guerra…

    @IowaCubs: You watch Catching Hell?

    @Duck’sPants: Well, 100 ABs doesn’t count. You find anyone over 400 ABs?

    @Steakstreak: Am I choosing three from Hanley etc. or from Bumgarner etc?

    @Steakstreak: Sure, grab Harper I guess. Have no idea the 1st question though.

    @Three True Outcomes: Holliday’s not playing today. Start Rasmus.

    @Feeding the Abscess: Yeah…

  19. Grey

    Grey says:

    @cj: Hmm… I’m guessing they’ll let you move people if there’s a game.

  20. MrHappyTime says:

    Thanks again for all the great advice this season Grey. Its lead me to my first Fantasy Baseball Championship. Can’t wait to do it again next year. Best of luck to you as well fine sir..

  21. Steakstreak says:

    @Grey: The latter group. I’m ditching the stars.

  22. Frank Rizzo says:

    I only have 10 innings of pitching left today and am tied for the lead with another guy in W’s. He has no one going today but I need to pick 1 guy out of the following….

    Harrison @ LA Angels
    Saunders Vs LA Dodgers
    B Chen @ Minnesota
    Pavano vs KC

    Who would you roll with? I currently have Harrison starting and the others sitting.

  23. Race to the Gold says:

    Currently tied 5 to 5 in H2H. I win on the Championship on a tie.

    He has 10 Wins / 122K / 3.26 ERA / 1.00 WHIP
    I have 8 Wins 112K / 2.67 ERA / 1.15 WHIP

    He Starts: Myers and Saunders
    I Can Potentially Start: LeBlanc / Volstad / Porcello / Humber

    I am only up 3 in RBIs so I can still loose that cat also. Do I take the risk at pitcher or back off and hope he doesn’t catch me anywhere else? If I risk it who should I roll with?

  24. mhfella says:

    Falling victim to one of the classic blunders… Ha, that Vizzini scene is priceless. As is your advice (lame segue, I know). Last few weeks have totally benched Bautista, Morse and Konerko and replaced with Ben Revere, Dee Gordon and De Aza because I stood to gain way more in steals and average than I could lose in homers and rbi. Couldn’t gain anything in homers and rbi, in fact. This drastic benching move has put me over the top. You showed me the path with something you wrote not long before the trade deadline about not being afraid to deal your studs if they could no longer help you. Hello league-mates. My name is Inigo Montoya….

  25. Race to the Gold says:


    Thanks for everything this season. Now its off to hibernation until February.

  26. AnotherFalstaff says:

    @Grey – Thanks to Razzball (with an assist to Scioscia) my team will win my H2H league tonight. Appreciate all of the hard work by you and your team and the responses to all of the commenter’s questions which also help immensely. Looking forward to your 2012 projections!

  27. OaktownSteve says:

    Dude…how sweet was that triple play. Dang I love baseball.

    Didn’t know much about Willingham coming into the season, but I’m a believer. He’s really strong. Hits a lot of no doubters. Has what I call a modern swing. Keeps the hands back a long time through the zone and then accelerates the top hand through impact. Weight is already out on the front foot. Gets huge extension. He’s pretty legit. Also won a lot MLB good guy awards this year for his foundation.

  28. birrrdy! says:

    I’m the guy in people’s leagues that picked up Vazquez after his last bad start. Great run. Got Leake off the waiver wire too.

    The karma is that I also dropped Bonifacio right before his 30 game hit streak and him going gonzo on stolen bases.

    Im coming in second in my league due to a shortfall of 5 SBs which would have put me in first.

    ugh. The drop of Bonifacio was the sole reason I lost this year. Go figure. Couldn’t even trade him right before the drop as no one wanted him.

  29. Grey

    Grey says:

    @birrrdy!: Damn, tough break.

  30. Duck'sPants says:


    No one any higher 185 ABs returned having that bad of a batting average.

    Adam Dunn should be the first by more database. First non-pitcher at all over 100 AB.

  31. Grey

    Grey says:

    @Duck’sPants: Interesting… His average isn’t quite half his weight that was an exaggeration. It’s 56% his weight. Probably no one comes that close to that either.

  32. chata says:


    fans go to new shea stadium to cheer jose reyes .
    guy drops a bunt single down , and heads to the dugout … done for the day

    not exactly ted williams-esque .

    hope ryan braun goes 3 for 3 today .

    hate to see this selfish prick win the batting title .
    he wouldn’t even take the field …. which the fans would have liked .

  33. Jake says:

    Wow, here’s why I hate the Mets. Reyes leads off with a bunt single and I get all excited because I need steals and was hoping he would go for it. What do those brilliant Mets do??? They pull Reyes for the day. Seriously, 1AB why start him then?

  34. Awesomus Maximus

    Awesomus Maximus says:

    @Grey: Yeah, it’s The Real World: Boy’s Don’t Cry Edition! Trying to recreate the Brandon Teena story might be a tad irresponsible on MTV’s part.

    That title (All A Fire Lind Loves Taters) stuck with me because it reminds me of an interesting study of intonation, where a professor rewrote the fable Little Red Riding Hood. None of the original words were used, but when read aloud, the story can sound exactly the same (e.g. “One upon a time” is changed to “Wants pawn term”). Maybe it’s only interesting to grammar nerds like me, but here’s a link if I’ve tickled your ass with a feather:

    BTW, I never owned Lind, but I did own Hanley (entire season), Josh Johnson (draft until he was finally shut down for good) Ubaldo (draft until a week ago), and Soria (draft until a week ago). Somehow I have a 7.5 point lead going into today, so Vegas odds are showing me to be a heavy favorite. I’d like to know who I colluded with to make this happen, as we should both be thrown out of my league!

  35. @Grey: Long time. Just wanted to drop an update from the darkened cave of my edit session. Even working 24/7 to get a show out the door, the fantasy gods smiled upon me long enough to fuel a magical playoff run.

    Down to the wire, do or die backs against the wall, fill in the blank sports euphemism for losing… The dynasty is on the line as “Coffee Is For Closers” tries to make it back to back to back titles. Down 9-3, but close in enough categories that I can still pull this off. Back later for an update.

    Tonight we dine in heck!

  36. Grey

    Grey says:

    @chata: Yeah, pretty lame.

    @Jake: Cause he wants to win the batting title.

    @Awesomus Maximus: Ha! Nice, will read later. Pretty incredible you did that well. Must’ve had some great pickups.

  37. Grey

    Grey says:

    @3FingersBrown: Yo, long time indeed. How’s things going with the show? Hopefully you win it.

  38. IowaCubs

    IowaCubs says:

    @Grey: I did not watch it, nor do I wish to revisit it. It’s painful enough to think about.

  39. chata says:

    ralph kiner calls the reyes move … “playing chicken” .

  40. Awesomus Maximus

    Awesomus Maximus says:

    @Grey: Well, having Braun and Kemp certainly didn’t hurt (one of the reasons I love auction… you can’t own Braun, Kemp and Hanley in a snake draft), but I had huge pickups like Asdrubal, Emilio, Hosmer, and Lawrie, as well as big 2-for-1 trades that got me Verlander and Halladay.

    Did you watch Catching Hell or is it on the Tivo?

  41. dsimon says:

    Ok longish question here. 18 category (I know. Gross) H2H league. I’m winning 9-6-3. We are tied in triples, steals, and complete games. I own the tiebreaker.

    I am losing QS 8-6. I’m losing whip 1.25-1.35. He has 6 losses to my 3. He’s killing me in wins.

    Do I start Zack Greinke and Gio Gonzalez tonight in the hopes i lessen my WHIP and pick up some QS? He’s throwing out Hudson, Myers, and Matt Harrison so it seems like he’ll get at least 1 QS and I should just hold off and hope for the best from my offense.

    We’re super close on HR and RBI (i’m up by 1 on both). I will say this – Jose Reyes getting lifted after his first at bat is AWESOME for me (opponent has him).

  42. dsimon says:

    Actually I did the math. I won’t catch him on whip unless his pitchers blow up like the Lusitania. I’m just gonna let it ride on my hitters.

    Thanks for another great year Grey!

  43. Nick says:

    Grey, thanks for the great season. Keep up your great work and don’t change a darn thing!

  44. chata says:

    batista throws a 2 hitter against cincy , and the clowns in the stands
    @ shea are chanting … jose reyes … jose reyes .

  45. chata says:


    today’s heroes are not your heroes .

  46. Wake Up says:

    Thanks for another season of news, facts and laughs. I am sipping an appletini, celebrating my Razzy league victory. I bought it for me, but poured some out for you. Well, I kinda spilled it while holding it with my pinky pointed out, you know really douchey, but in hindsight, I feel like it was subconsciously in your general direction, homey. Anyway, thanks again.

  47. chris says:

    ahhh, nothing like not starting miggy batista and he throws a CGSO that would have sealed my league….lets go bruce chen/alfredo simon….

  48. Rabbit says:

    I watched much of Catching Hell (swtched to catch certain points of the Sawx and Yankees games). That was pretty compelling stuff. Between the footage and first-hand accounts you get a real feel for just how ugly that crowd was toward Bartman, and how he could have real easily ended up beaten to a pulp that night–even with the security detail around him, it seemed like he was in real danger. I found this documentary compelling because I am fascinated by why and how sports can inflame such passions in us (and I lump myself in here too) that we will do wholly irrational things in response to the outcome of a game with arbitrary rules played by professional millionaires with little to no connection to us or the community for whom they play. And these millionaires will often openly admit that they have no connection to a particular team and “it’s all just business.” But it is clearly not all business to us fans–it’s not even a little bit business; it’s all personal. But why do we feel such affiliation to “our” teams? What basic, primitive need is our sports affiliation fulfilling? Put another way, if the Phillies meet the Yankees in the World Series, why will I feel that the world is a more just a better place if the Phillie millionaires beat the Yankee millionaires?

  49. Grey

    Grey says:

    @IowaCubs: Was really interesting…

    @chata: Ha…Yup.

    @Awesomus Maximus: I did watch it, thanks for giving the heads up on it. Really enjoyed it. Much more than I thought I would. Someone even mentioned my theory that it didn’t help that he was a dork.

    @dsimon: No problem. Good luck!

    @Nick: No problem, thanks!

    @chata: No, they’re not.

    @Wake Up: Ha! No problem.

    @Rabbit: He could’ve been killed. Yeah, wholly agree, great documentary. Maybe brings about feelings from when you were sitting in the stands as a kid with your dad and you just wanted your team to win? Maybe it’s just a distraction that people take too far? Either way, it’s fascinating.

  50. Wilsonian says:

    @Rabbit: @Grey: I, as a long time Cubs fan, remember watching that game as a college senior. After wearing the same Cubs jersey for the entire playoffs (we won’t go into the fact that I wore the same jeans and shoes). It was a very tragic time in my life.

    However, what many people, and Cubs fans seem to block out, is that they still had the damn lead after that play, and a decent lead at that. They also fail to remember that AGon, the Cub version, booted an easy grounder that should have been a double play. They also block out that this was Game 6, and they still had Game 7 with Kerry Wood on the hill. My opinion is that Alou’s reaction, as well as the reaction of the entire stadium (which only 2 minutes earlier KNEW they were going to the World Series), completely 180’ed the demeanor of the team. Prior was rolling, the team was gelling. But something changed. If that would have just been a play in the stands that Alou tried for but was just out of his reach, the reaction would have been different. But because someone reacted the same exact way many of us would have in the same situation, and because Alou reacted like a 3 year old who just got his favorite toy taken from his brother, the so-called Cubs curse rolled in. If you look at the replay, Alou would have needed an act of God to catch that ball. He should have just walked away and returned to the action.

    I don’t blame Bartman for anything. I blame the Cubs for acting like a bunch of whiny girls and folding under the pressure.

    Thank you for listening. End rant.

  51. daniel says:

    which side ya got for next season? 20 teams 10 keepers h2h
    a: bautista
    b: zimmerman and weeks
    also how much regression are you expecting for bautista next season?

  52. Grey

    Grey says:

    @Wilsonian: I agree with 95% of what you said. With that said, they isolate Alou and the ball without Bartman in the documentary and it does look catchable.

  53. chata says:

    alou would have caught that ball even without a glove .

    remember , he used to pizz on his hands to toughen them up .

  54. chata says:

    in the post-game interview of today’s mets game , manager terry collins
    said that reyes told him he was going to bunt and that , if successful , he
    wanted to be pulled from the game .

    to the reporters , reyes said collins wanted to take him out of the game .
    and ,
    a) he wanted to play for the fans ,
    and ,
    b) he didn’t care what the fans thought of his decision to exit the game .

    ultimately , he was very occupied with becoming a free agent , and
    what a batting title would mean to him …. (he repeated this) .

  55. Grey

    Grey says:

    @chata: It’s the era we live in, Big O.

  56. Oilcan Giuseppe says:

    I watched the Bartman doc and what bothered me was people(like Bob Costas) kept saying “the poor guy just made a mistake”….

    It seems to me that he was just doing exactly what fans have been doing for more than a century,right?

    If it was a “mistake”,then I guess fans near the field stick their hands in their pockets when a foul ball comes near them at Wrigley nowadays?

    The people who have the most to be embarassed about are the reporters and random media types who stalked the guy and plastered his name and adress all over tv and internet.

    just my 2cents.

    btw….why is Costas treated like some sort of broadcasting legend?….dude seems really full of himself.

  57. Steve says:

    @chata: @Grey: Didn’t Ted Williams play in both games of a doubleheader on the last day when he hit .406 in ’41?

  58. Grey

    Grey says:

    @Oilcan Giuseppe: He’s revered as a legend because he doesn’t have a mustache. The rest of us have an uphill battle.

  59. Grey

    Grey says:

    @Steve: Yeah, he did.

  60. Oilcan Giuseppe says:

    @Steve: and he went 6-8.

  61. Steve says:

    @Grey: @Oilcan Giuseppe: Different times, as you said Grey, but that has a more authentic ring to it than bunting for a single in the 1st and leaving the game.

  62. Grey

    Grey says:

    @Steve: Yeah, was a lame move from a guy I like a lot. Well, whatever, I still like him. Please let him end up in Boston.

  63. Oilcan Giuseppe says:

    @Steve: yeah,if we all start measuring our authenticity and overall toughness against Ted Williams we would likely come up short,but Reyes’ move today was still pretty weak.

  64. Steve says:

    @Oilcan Giuseppe: I don’t know about that. I’d say you, Grey and me are of a far more genial disposition ;-)

  65. Awesomus Maximus

    Awesomus Maximus says:

    @Grey: @Wilsonian: The bit with the minister at the end showed how he acted as a perfect scapegoat, being meek, quiet (silent) and even disconnected from the crowd (headphones) as a scapegoat would in ye olde tymes. That was very interesting.

    I also noted, however, that even though Buckner was a good looking non-dork who immediately said, “Hey, sucks that I made an error, but let’s go play Game 7.” it didn’t make him less of a scapegoat. I know, different city, different situation (fan vs. player), but still another interesting aspect.

    Ultimately, the documentary just reinforced my ire for the media. Yeah, Alou definitely lit the fire under Bartman with his reaction… but I can’t criticize players when they aren’t passionate (“Hanley bein’ Manny”) and then also criticize them for having a passionate reaction to a game-changing event. Some guys act remarkably collected in a similar situation (the Galarraga perfect game comes to mind), but they’re the exception that proves the rule.

    The collective media poured gasoline all over that fire, well after Alou was done throwing a fit and glaring at Bartman. Journalists like Michael Wilbon especially disgust me, with his line of, “I know it’s irrational, but I still hate the guy.” I’ve heard him toss that crap around on PTI with some frequency, as if the admission of irrationality absolves him of any wrongdoing. To the contrary, rather than keeping an irrational feeling towards a private citizen to himself, he’s disseminating that feeling to a national audience, thus rationalizing it. He and others like him show less responsibility and maturity than Alou, as they actively perpetuate the victimization of an innocent fan.

    I was a little surprised that Don Denkinger didn’t make it into the film, but I suppose the parallel with Buckner was enough. The ultimate conclusion was very well done… that Chicago has no place forgiving Bartman, it is Bartman who needs to forgive Chicago. The scene’s of Buckner coming back to Fenway and being embraced, especially being given a standing ovation, it was like the fan’s weren’t saying, “We forgive you.” It was more like they were saying, “Thank you for letting us unjustly pile all our crap on you… we didn’t know what else to do with it. Forgive us.”

  66. Oilcan Giuseppe says:

    @Awesomus Maximus: well said….

    speaking of scapegoats etc etc….as a Phillies fan I couldnt help but think of Mitch Williams.Right after he gave up the HR to Joe Carter in the 93 WS,Phillies fans acted pretty sh**ty,egging his house,that sort of thing.But he actually came back to Philly and was doing pre and/or postgame analysis for Phillies games BEFORE the Phillies won the 08′ WS.For the most part,he was forgiven here even while fans were still w/out a championship to dull the pain of 93.

  67. Steve says:

    I don;t think I really had a chance of winning the Al K/Hippo keeper, but Myers is in the process of removing all doubt…

  68. Grey

    Grey says:

    @Awesomus Maximus: Agreed on a lot of that. Yeah, Buckner took it in stride and was still vilified, but somehow I feel like his was worse because he was a player and the ground ball was routine. I will say this, if I were Bartman, I’d be out signing baseball for $10,000 a pop.

    @Steve: Can’t say I’m surprised or upset about that, I have an opponent throwing Myers and I’m glad he’s being lit up.

  69. Steve says:

    Um, Joe Smith is not helping here.

  70. Awesomus Maximus

    Awesomus Maximus says:

    @Grey: Yes, that’s a huge, undeniable difference; Buckner signed up to be part of the group responsible for winning or losing, Bartman just reached for a foul ball.

  71. Wilsonian says:

    Need an answer in the next 10 minutes. I’m losing ERA 2.90 to 2.94. I’m winning WHIP 1.01 to 1.06. He’s got Dempster pitching right now, I’ve got Lilly scheduled to pitch. Do I bench Lilly?

  72. Grey

    Grey says:

    @Wilsonian: I’d pitch Lilly, and am pitching him.

  73. Wilsonian says:

    @Grey: oh, and re: Bartman/Alou, I’m basing that off of my Old Style’d mind at the time. It didn’t look catchable to me when I was watching it. I didn’t actually watch the documentary, I would’ve had nightmares last night.

  74. Wilsonian says:

    @Grey: I’m gonna toss him out there. We’re tied 7-7 right now. I could win about $200 if he tosses a gem.

  75. Grey

    Grey says:

    @Wilsonian: It looked catchable in the documentary, but i goes without saying that there was a lot of other reasons that the Cubs lost.

  76. timmy riggins says:

    @Grey: Hi, which pitchers do you expect to start if theres a playoff tomorrow (both AL and NL)


  77. Grey

    Grey says:

    @timmy riggins: Matt Moore vs. Bullpen; Beachy vs. Lohse…

  78. Trevor

    Tggq21 says:

    Poor Kimbrel. That’s what happens when you get treated like an old dish rag. Black n Yellow!

  79. Grey

    Grey says:

    @Tggq21: Ha! Black n yellow!

  80. McBainus says:

    @Grey: It’s truly sad the things you wish for while watching StatTracker on the last day of the season. Rooting for/against basically everyone that comes to bat and getting more excited than I’ve been in weeks because of a Miguel Batista CG Shutout…

    I just need Samardzija and Marshall NOT to pitch today…or if they do, to not have clean innings!!! I hate myself!

  81. McBainus says:

    @Grey: Looking at the Yankees/Rays pitchers for today…who do you think gets credit for the win assuming they hang on? Laffey or Hughes? I hate the “most effective” rule…I need objectivity!!!

  82. Grey

    Grey says:

    @McBainus: Oh, I have no idea. Who was pitching when they took the lead? That’s who will get it.

  83. McBainus says:

    @Grey: They went up 5-0 in the second inning , but pulled the starter after 2 innings. Then used a variety of relief pitchers. Looking at the stats, it could be Hughes or Laffey. You’d have to look at the Box Score to really see.
    Although now that it is 7-6, this conversation could be moot…

  84. McBainus says:

    @Grey: Wow, I feel bad for anyone that started Dempster today and needed to lower their ratios…

  85. chunk says:

    12 team H2H 5×5 championship

    His lineup:

    VS mine:

    I own Ks, ERA, and whip while we are tied for wins :) your daquiris are comin soon, grey, thanks for a great year

  86. Grey

    Grey says:

    @McBainus: Yeah, Dempster was a disappointment. Whoever pitched the 5th inning then… Laffey…

  87. Grey

    Grey says:

    @chunk: No problem, congrats!

  88. Grey

    Grey says:

    @Steve: Wow, Dan Johnson!

  89. Wilsonian says:

    Holy shit, Longo and Napoli just won me my league. I was losing 11-2 going into today’s action. I just won 9-4. Hell yea!

    Unless Lilly gives up 200 runs in the next two innings, and the game somehow goes 20 innings and Kemp goes 0-12.

  90. Grey

    Grey says:

    @Wilsonian: Wow, that’s amazing! Napoli!

  91. Wilsonian says:

    @Grey: we were incredibly close on everything, so it just took a bad day for him and a great day for me, and luckily I got it.

    Thanks for all your help this season. 1 H2H win, 1 H2H 4th place (16 team league), and 2nd in my RCL.

    I owe you some daiquiris when this check clears!

  92. McBainus says:

    @Wilsonian: The only guy who can catch me has Longo and Napoli…and Jennings and BJ Upton and Farnsworth. Extra innings in this Yankees/Rays game is about to cost me my league if one of those guys does something…I am a nervous wreck right now.

  93. Wilsonian says:

    @Grey: you can give all the credit to the Rays’ hitting coach, Derek Shelton. I know I’ve said it before, but he was the ring bearer at my parents’ wedding. It’s like the one cool thing I have that connects me to the sport.

  94. chata says:


    and when johnson came up and michael kay (announcer) stated :
    “johnson’s got some power” , and then flashed up his .108 BA ,
    i’m thinking ==> stfu …. that’s the same yankee paranoia you
    touted back a few years ago when the A’s collapsed against the yanks
    in a play-off game .

    back then , the A’s sent up the mighty melheuse … to no avail .
    which , oaktown might remember , if he’s up this late .

    but , yeah … “Wow, Dan Johnson!”

    p.s. O’s have 2 on on the 7th … one out .
    gotta know how to operate the clicker on a night like this .

  95. Terrence Mann says:

    As long as Miguel Olivo doesn’t go yard five times tonight, you’ve got more drinks coming. I drafted Crawford in 2, Soo Choo in 3, Dunn in 4, Werth in 5, and Rios in 6. I picked up Espinosa, Hosmer, Lawrie, Gordon, Presley, Bourjos, Motte, Luebke, and Valencia over the season. Somehow climbed into 2nd and $$. :bows:

  96. Eddy says:

    Wow. I love this sport.

    Probably the first day this season where I’m genuinely invested in games because of how insane they are, and not because I own a player in the game.

  97. Drkness says:

    First year following this blog, loved every minute of it, great sense of humor and great info.

    I would like to make a suggestion though. When Matt Stairs retired, the old post about his intensity from the “Razzball Hall of Fame” was priceless. I would like to see an actual razzball hall of fame with the funniest comments from this site

  98. McBainus says:

    Walk Longo!!!!!!!!!!!

  99. Grey

    Grey says:

    @Wilsonian: Well played, congrats!

    @Wilsonian: Wow, I hadn’t that before about the hitting coach. Nice…

    @chata: Yeah, heard that too from Kay.

    @Terrence Mann: Congrats!

    @Eddy: Ha, so true.

  100. Terrence Mann says:

    I did almost blow it by streaming down the stretch. Picking between Lincoln and Huff, I ran with both. Hence, my glossary suggestion:

    Shell Game – Choosing between two low end starters (generally while streaming), which always somehow ends up a losing proposition. “Picking between Huff and Lincoln wasn’t easy, so it made sense to start them both. I had no idea they’d both get shelled. Fmfbbl.”

  101. Grey

    Grey says:

    @Terrence Mann: Pretty good, but close to Cleveland streamer, no?

  102. VinWins

    VinWins says:

    Nice night for those that streamed both sides of the KC – Minn game. 17 scoreless innings.

  103. Steve says:

    Feel like I’m missing all the fun. Going to Sydney for the weekend so sitting in an airport.
    A vacay that doesn’t interfere with baseball is a rare thing for me.

  104. Grey

    Grey says:

    @Steve: Ah, wondered where you were. Great night for baseball.

  105. chata says:


    you do an amazing job .

    it’s sad to think that some guys won’t tip you for your efforts ,
    if their team doesn’t do well .
    i mean , come on ! how many losers dropped out last month when
    their teams fell out of contention ?

    sometimes i take your advice … sometimes i don’t .
    i just think that you afford me the privilege to speak my mind AND
    offer advice and concern … something i can find no where else on the internet …. and for this , i tip you what/when i can .
    for that reason , my contributions are staggered through-out the year .
    (it’s also an ability to pay thing) .

    i realize that this time of year is a big revenue period for you , and i hope
    you make a couple thousand bucks .

    but , if your next sushi and a movie are dependent on my fantasy team’s
    success , …. well good luck with that my friend .
    i’m a loser .
    always have been . always will be .

  106. Steve says:

    Jesus. Hot girls everywhere.

  107. Terrence Mann says:

    @Grey: Ah, true. Plus, crossing streams is another good term. I love the term shell game and need to apply it somewhere. Maybe next spring when a couple more nesting dolls pop out of Ricky Romero, I can apply it somehow to the Jays staff and work my way into the fort knox you and Rudy call a glossary.

  108. chata says:

    what a collapse by the braves .

    curse of the bambino ?

  109. Grey

    Grey says:

    @chata: Ha… Thanks for the kind words!

    @Steve: Hey, that doesn’t sound bad.

    @Terrence Mann: Ha… It’s more Rudy than me.

  110. Grey

    Grey says:

    @chata: Curse of John Rocker.

  111. McBainus says:

    @Grey: Big bad Matt [email protected]#$in’ Kemp! If Gio holds on for the win that is two leagues I came from behind to win on the last day. This might go down as the single greatest combined real baseball/fantasy baseball day EVER. I can’t think of another one to top it.

  112. McBainus says:

    And I insist you make your Daquiri a double, good sir.

  113. chata says:

    absolutely GREAT move by johnson (orioles rp) .
    almost picked ellsbury off 3rd base .
    hope you saw it .
    a move that will , undoubtedly , be mimicked .

  114. Grey

    Grey says:

    @McBainus: Well done!

    @chata: I was watching the Braves lose.

  115. Terrence Mann says:

    Only a matter of a few hours until we hear pleas for Bobby Cocks to come out of retirement.

  116. chata says:

    mets tv , earlier today , announced that jose reyes told them that he was
    having a “ryan braun watch” party at his place tonight .

    braun ended up 0 for 4 .

    hope reyes’ guests got drunk and puked all over his expensive rugs .

  117. chata says:


    1st and third .
    fake throw to 1st , and a super fast pivot and throw to 3rd ….
    to the 3rd baseman who was breaking towards the bag .

  118. chata says:


    a designed play by showalter ?

  119. chata says:

    with lavarnway stepping up these last few games ,
    we may be witnessing the end to varitek’s career .
    this kid has caught well enough in some important games and deserves to serve as salty’s back-up … imo .

  120. Steve says:

    None of them as hot as Matt Kemp though.

  121. chata says:

    all of new england is wearing down the batteries in their clicker
    at this very moment .

  122. Grey

    Grey says:

    @Drkness: Thanks for the kind words! Maybe I’ll put one together in the offseason.

    @chata: Should be the end of his career.

    @Steve: Nope

  123. chata says:


  124. Grey

    Grey says:

    @chata: It’s Andino time!

  125. chata says:

    my gawd …. the sawx are dead in the water .

  126. Awesomus Maximus

    Awesomus Maximus says:

    This Yankee fan has never wanted to see his team lose this badly in his life. Let’s go Rays!

  127. Eddy says:


    WHAT A DAY!!!

    Greatest day of baseball in an extremely long time. How amazing!!!!

  128. chata says:


    crawford ?

  129. chata says:


  130. Grey

    Grey says:

    @chata: Wow, what an ending.

  131. McBainus says:

    Oh MY God, that was the sickest 2 minute span between Andino and Longo…DEFINITELY the best last day ever.

  132. Steve says:

    Just about to board but holy crap.

  133. Terrence Mann says:

    Awesome. Im pretty sure if the BoSox ever played Iran, I’d root for Iran. This is a great day in American history.

  134. Awesomus Maximus

    Awesomus Maximus says:

    I don’t know which I’m happier about right now… that Papelbon choked and ended the Sawx season, or that there won’t be any games tomorrow so stats will end tonight, meaning I won my league! What a way to end the season!

  135. McBainus says:

    OK, I could lose one if Goldschmidt hits a dinger…otherwise I’m good. Too much information, I know, but this is literally the final call…

  136. Wilsonian says:

    @Eddy: that was probably the best night of baseball I’ve seen in my entire life. Impressive all around. I would’ve paid for the full season of MLB Extra Innings just for tonight.

    @Grey: yeah, Shelton’s dad is one of my dad’s best friends. I cling to that like nothing else. Makes me feel special. Ha! Although I’ve never actually met any of the Rays besides the hitting coach.

  137. chata says:

    maybe now the sawx will realize that instead of over-paying a
    slow-footed , over-weight , dominican , who whines at every umpires’ called strike , and is an embarrassment to the general red sox fan base , and all
    of new england , as a whole ,
    that , maybe , they should invest in a pitching staff deserving of it’s
    200+ million payroll , and quit fooling around with bums like lackey
    and dice k .

    theo should be fired for his “misappropriation of funds” .
    and i’m not even a sawx fan .
    cust kayin’ .

  138. Eddy says:


    I was walking away from SunLife stadium today, wishing I could attend a crazy world series game where the Marlins would be in it.

    Don’t know when that would happen, but this has got to be the next best thing.

    Baseball>>>>>>>football, hockey, basketball, polo, discus, ANY DAMN SPORT.

  139. sean says:

    Entered 5 CBS cash leagues. Took down first in three of them!

    Grey, thanks for the tireless news, notes and commentary.

  140. chata says:

    have to agree with others .

    a most exciting finish to the playoff situation .

    now , excuse me while i go see if the A’s can wrap up win #74 .
    green and gold .

  141. Eddy says:


    Agree 10000000 percent. Wow. Such a fantastic night.

  142. chata says:

    am getting reports from the commissioner of my roto league
    that stat-tracker (yahoo) has been “off” (i.e. screwed up) since
    early this afternoon .

    our league leader picked up 5.5 points on a 6 for 38 night !
    apparently , we’ll have to wait until tomorrow and hope yahoo
    figures thing out by then .

    sort of reminds me of political races of yore .

  143. chata says:


    apparently coming from 9 games back in september ,
    the rays have set a mlb record .
    good for them .

  144. Hans says:

    @Grey thanks for everything this year man, I really appreciate it. I just came back from a rays like deficit over the last two days and my main man Mike Crapoli led the charge. My Tuesday/Wednesday stats were: 17 runs, 11 Home Runs and 26 RBIs to take all 3 of those categories and eek out a championship…..I LOVE THIS GAME!!!!!

  145. McBainus says:

    @Chata…Which is worse 9 games from September 1 (Rays/Red Sox) or 8.5 games from September 6 (Braves/Cardinals)

    It’s a toss up, where the coin is a giant turd…lol

  146. chata says:


    funny .

  147. @Grey: Show’s coming along… one rewrite and recut at a time. Less than four weeks until air, so one way or another it’ll be done soon.

    Fantasy baseball was not so good to me these last couple of nights. Like the Bravos and Sawx, I snatched defeat from the jaws of victory.

    What’s that sound, Billy Beane? Silence. That’s what losing sounds like.

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