Psst!  This post is gonna list 2nd basemen that you should target in your 2017 fantasy baseball drafts.  I’m whispering because you don’t want everyone to see this post.  No, I can’t whisper louder, then it WOULDN’T BE WHISPERING!  Okay, gig’s up (or maybe that’s jig’s up), the love I’m about to reiterately (Made Up Word of the Day!) confirm is on these guys I love later in drafts.  I’m not going to mention Rougned Odor other than this one mention of him where I say I’m not going to mention him.  I love Odor, and not just because when he chops a 3-2 pitch into the dugout the announcer says, “Foul…Odor stays alive.  Hey, Bill, change your shirt.”  I’m not mentioning Odor other than this mention of not mentioning him because these are players that you’re looking at later and all of them have ADPs after 200.  Some could be the 2nd baseman on your team, they are more than likely MIs.  This is a (legal-in-all-countries-except-Croatia) supplement to the top 20 2nd basemen for 2017 fantasy baseball.  Click on the player’s name where applicable to read more and see their 2017 projections.  Anyway, here’s some 2nd basemen to target for 2017 fantasy baseball:

Devon Travis (ESPN 227) I already gave you my Devon Travis sleeper.  I don’t like the Jays this year, but I’m in goofy love with Travis.  I want to Photoshop me and Travis together in one of those boats that you peddle, just laughing without a care, but then he’ll likely hurt his knee.  Stupid peddle boat!  I know, I know, the injury.  Yesterday, he took some cuts, which is swings, not cuts like Chris Sale, and Travis said he felt good.  For his price, I think it’s worth the gamble on his health.

Cesar Hernandez (ESPN 261, Yahoo NR) Slotted into the leadoff spot and should stay there, because I don’t really see the Phils making hay this year.  Not to mention, I don’t know how to make hay.  Do you knife a scarecrow when it’s not looking?  You hold a magnifying glass up to some freshly cut grass?  Do you mug an extra on Hee Haw for the thing they’re chewing on?  I’m a city boy, y’all!  By the way, I Googled Hee Haw and that shizz was on for 21 years!  That’s like the hillbilly Law & Order.  Oh my God, million dollar idea!  They should do Law & Order: Alabama.  Instead of Jerry Orbach you have Boss Hogg, and instead of Sam Waterson you have Kid Rock.

Ryan Schimpf (ESPN NR, Yahoo 242) In 89 games last year, he hit how many homers?  Why are you nodding?  I’m asking you to guess.  He hit 20 homers.  They averaged over 400 feet, and further than guys like Rizzo, Freeman, Votto and Springer, to name a few.  Of course, Schimpf’s strikeouts are trayf and he might only hit .189.  In fact (Grey’s got more!), he hit .189 in Triple-A in 2014.  Oy.  Fun fact!  I’m the first fantasy baseball blogger to use the word trayf.  What do I win?  A bedazzled yarmulke!

Jose Peraza (Yahoo 209)  ESPN has him ranked at 195, but as of now he doesn’t have 2nd base eligibility.  Peraza feels like a guy that will be drafted as high as 75 overall by the time we get to April, right?  He’s got ‘sleeper-who-is-not-really-a-sleeper’ written all over him.  It’s written in 8 point font to help it fit.  I even fell victim to this, and have recently moved him into my top 100, and up in the top 20 shortstops, top 20 2nd basemen and top 40 outfielders.  When I originally ranked him, he appeared destined for the eight hole, but he’s since moved up to the two hole, which is a boon for his value.  Boon, boon, shake shake the draft room!

Starlin Castro (Yahoo 249) I avoided listing any of the old boring guys in this post.  Ya know, the Neil Walker-types.  Starlin has that feel, but he’s only 26 years old and is coming off his best season by far. Couldn’t he still be getting better?  Rhetorical!  That’s not the black woman in The Matrix, by the way.  That’s the Oracle.

Hernan Perez (Yahoo 320) Here’s an interesting factoid that’s not that interesting or really even a factoid.  Javier Baez is being drafted about 100 to 150 spots before Hernan Perez.  Let’s list some reasons why this is crazy:  neither guy has a starting job, Perez might actually get a starting job without an injury because the Brewers suck dog balls, Perez was over 100 spots more valuable than Baez last year on our Fantasy Baseball Player Rater, and Baez actually had more at-bats than Perez last year.  Any of this make sense?  No, nuh-uh, noppers.

Raul Mondesi (ESPN/Yahoo NR) Looks like a super cheap Jose Peraza.  I will call him Raul Saveyourmoneysee.  Hmm, maybe I won’t call him that.  Jose Perdiem?  Blech!  Jose Can You See A Bargain?  Okay, not getting better!  If Mondesi hits .270, he could hit 10 homers and steal 40 bases.  Unfortch, he might not hit .215.  He’s a solid flyer for reward, but the risk is most prevalent as the Royals have options in front of him.  By the way, Mos Prevalent is Mos Def’s cousin.  Interesting cat, puts tiny ships into tiny bottles.

Tyler Saladino (ESPN/Yahoo NR) When Brett Lawrie got CTRL+ALT+DEL’d from the White Sox roster, Yolmer Sanchez moved into the lead for the 2nd base job for a few days, but then the White Sox responded to Earth, when Earth reached out with its patented, “Earth to White Sox, come in, White Sox,” and now Saladino’s the lead 2B candidate.

Brandon Drury (ESPN/Yahoo NR)  Ooh, law enforcement idea!  In Arizona, when they pull over people for a DUI stop, they should ask them to get out of the car and say ‘Drury’ without sounding drunk.  Rack up the DUIs which means more money for the state!  I should run for councilman in Arizona.   Grey Albright, Fantasy Master Lothario and Councilman.  That has a nice ring to it.  As for Drury (damn, drinking so early?), he doesn’t have huge power, but he should approach 18 homers without killing you in any other categories, except the category Driving While Drury.

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Blue
Blue
5 years ago

Where would you rank Odor in a 6×6 with OBP? Still worth a top 30 pick?

Jody (I'm a boy)
Jody (I'm a boy)
5 years ago

I’m also high on Peraza (it’s a nice, clean high!) and am thinking of reaching for him somewhere around the 7th or 8th round. You think that’s a reach around that will result in a happy ending or am I targeting him too soon? It’s a 12 team league where I’m drafting 3rd so figure to pick him somewhere between 75th and 93rd pick overall.

Pugs & Slugs
Pugs & Slugs
5 years ago

Hi Grey,

I have a keeper dilemma that I’d like your advice on. Sorry about the long write-up, but I want to give you the context and dynamics of my league.

NL-Only H2H 5×5 with OBP.
$280 Auction (5 Keepers)

Goldschmidt – 44
Villar – 12
LeMahieu – 9
Hendricks – 14
Franco – 12

Bubble: Cole (17) and Broxton (3)

I am having second thoughts on keeping Franco for my last spot even though he’s a really good value.

I have Broxton for $3. There’s no real speed (25+ SBs) left besides Janikowski, Pollock, and Margot. I think Keon will go for $20-25 because of his HR/SB combo potential. I know, key word is potential, but even Hamilton would probably go for $25+ if he were thrown back.

The following SPs are being kept, so there’s a shortage in big arms. Kershaw, Scherzer, Madbum, Thor, Cueto, Strasburg, deGrom, CMart, Teheran, and Taillon.

Lester, Greinke, and Arrieta will go anywhere from $35 – $45. Cole could get up to that range as well. Keeping Cole would still allow money in my budget for Maeda, and then I could go for lower $ guys like Eickhoff, Nova, Walker, etc.

I can always bid on Franco, and if he goes for too much, Lamb is still available (I could probably get him for the low $20s). I could also pick up Drury for cheap and use the $ elsewhere. Having Villar eligible at 3B also opens up the possibility to get a SS like Diaz.

Thoughts on keeping one of Broxton or Cole over Franco?

Thanks!

Pugs & Slugs
Pugs & Slugs
Reply to  Grey
5 years ago

@Grey: Yeah, it’s a tough decision. I can always stock my staff with other SPs , and I do have a good amount of SBs to build around if I feel Broxton is too expensive.

Based on your ratings, I’m sure you’d flip any of the three for an $8 Jake Lamb though, wouldn’t you?

Thanks!

Cheese Eating Surrender Monkey
Cheese Eating Surrender Monkey
5 years ago

ok, i gambled on not keeping lackey in that 20 team league with 7-9 keepers (i kept 8 after some trades to gain draft picks for young players i couldn’t keep and porcello and a.jones)
OPS and XBH and holds and QS added
C sanchez
1B c-sant
2B cano
SS treat urner (after 5 games into season)
3B carpenter
OF (3) piscotty/cargo 1/dahl
util (1)
SP (none, need only 1250 short innings cap roto)
RP (room for 5, none yet)

so clearly i’ll be targeting a steals guy for the util spot (and while dahl’s out) in probably dyson/rajai or somebody like that. after putting team with jones into war room it spitted out that for 16 team league i was heavy in OPS/HR/RBI/XBH but steals weak.
so i gambled on getting one of mccullers/carmart/maeda over lackey at the 14th pick (out of 14 picks) in supplemental round. but those 3 are gone and i’m left with the hill vs lackey decision. upside and value per game is clearly in hill’s favor, safety in lackey’s. which should i go with? looks like other than some speed all i’ll be drafting for a long time is SP/RP entirely.

Cheese Eating Surrender Monkey
Cheese Eating Surrender Monkey
Reply to  Grey
5 years ago

@Grey: drat, i thought i’d get maeda here. but nope.

Crock
Crock
5 years ago

I have the 3rd pick in an upcoming 14 team draft. I’m keeping Darvish, Villar and Turner. With that said would it be crazy to take Arenado (provided he’s still available) at 3 over Goldy and Betts since I already have a good start in the sb department? Or should I stay the course with your rankings?

Slimbo
Slimbo
5 years ago

Hey man

Giving up alex colome to get alex reyes in a dynasty

Pull the trigger?

Thanks

The Harrow
The Harrow
Reply to  Slimbo
5 years ago

@Slimbo: this isn’t close.

Benji
Benji
5 years ago

Thanks for everything you guys do here. Love all the info. Helped me win 2 titles last year.

Weekly Head to head league. 12 teams.
Got offered a pre draft trade. I have 4 overall he has 1 overall. I give up #4, for his 2nd and 3rd round picks. It’s a pitcher heavy league. K’s are 2.5 points each. Usually in the first 2 rounds about 12 pitchers are taken on average.

For hitters RBi’s are worth 2, steals 2.5.
It’s also a keeper league we can 2 each. Probably 7 out of your top 25 are keepers this year.

Is it worth trading #4 overall and Possibly Goldy or Bum for the 2 extra picks?

Andrew
Andrew
5 years ago

Grey-

I have the 7th pick in my 12-team Yahoo keeper league. I’m currently keeping Correa, Wil Myers, Salazar and Maeda. For my last spot should I keep Dahl or Peraza?

Follow up to that question: With the 7th pick, I expect to have the option of Kershaw, Machado, Harper, and Rizzo. I don’t love the idea of taking Kershaw (and know you would agree), and based on your rankings I know you have it Rizzo, Machado, Harper. However, since I’m already keeping a 1b/OF and SS (and possibly another SS if you say to keep Peraza), should I reach for Harper and hope he gets back to his 2015 ways? Based on those keepers who would you want as your 1st round pick?

Thanks!

The Great Knoche
The Great Knoche
5 years ago

You’ll love this. So we haven’t been making many picks during day in NFBC. Today it was a different guy than last 2 days.

He just showed up and makes a pick and comments”Sorry unexpected draft time” It was 5 picks away after the overnight. Sheesh.

herschel
herschel
5 years ago

@Grey: 12 team 5 x 5 roto. which pair would you prefer? rizzo/jd or harper/freeman?

thanks (and congrats on the new book)…

JeF WiTh 1 F
JeF WiTh 1 F
Reply to  herschel
5 years ago

@herschel: Rizzo/JD for me

Ashtray
Ashtray
5 years ago

Which two would you keep out of Dahl, Hosmer, Pederson, Moncada and Contreras?

LEague is 14 team keep 6 forever.

R/ RBI/ HR/ NSB/ OBP/ SLG

I’m also keeping: Harper, Bregman, Benintendi and Mazara.

Thanks

JeF WiTh 1 F
JeF WiTh 1 F
Reply to  Ashtray
5 years ago

@Ashtray: Dahl and Moncada for me

Ashtray
Ashtray
Reply to  JeF WiTh 1 F
5 years ago

@JeF WiTh 1 F: Would you take Beltre over either of those? I tend to forget him since he’s old af.

Ashtray
Ashtray
Reply to  Grey
5 years ago

@Grey: I could keep Beltre or Lamb as well. Keep them over any of those guys?

SteveNZ
SteveNZ
5 years ago

Yo. What’s up?

J-FOH
J-FOH
Reply to  SteveNZ
5 years ago

@SteveNZ: Steve!

SteveNZ
SteveNZ
Reply to  J-FOH
5 years ago

@Grey: @J-FOH: What’d I miss?

SteveNZ
SteveNZ
Reply to  Grey
5 years ago

@Grey: Noooooo!!!!

Good knowledge!

Malicious Phenoms
Malicious Phenoms
Reply to  Grey
5 years ago

@Grey:
NICE!
AND, Ireland won in Chicago in October!

SteveNZ
SteveNZ
Reply to  Grey
5 years ago

@Grey: Nothing lucky about it. By far the better team won.

SteveNZ
SteveNZ
Reply to  Grey
5 years ago

@Grey: Prior to that, we had NEVER lost to them.

MattTruss
Editor
Reply to  SteveNZ
5 years ago

Steve! Impeccable timing! We’re getting the FCL up and running again if you have interest in rosterbating through an RCL with us. If you want in, let me know.

JeF WiTh 1 F
JeF WiTh 1 F
5 years ago

I’m starting to own Hanley more than i’d like, just made this trade in a 12 team Roto standard
I get Hanley and Piscotty
I give Hosmer and Yelich
I like the trade but now i own Hanley on 3 teams so you know whats going to happen….

JeF WiTh 1 F
JeF WiTh 1 F
Reply to  Grey
5 years ago

@Grey: Yeah I had hosmer as my first baseman…We keep 8 in this league, these are my 8 now
1b. Hanley
2b. D.Gordon
3b. M.Franco
SS. C.Seager
OF. G.Springer
OF. Y. Cespedes
OF. JD Martinez
Util. S.Piscotty

JeF WiTh 1 F
JeF WiTh 1 F
Reply to  Grey
5 years ago

@Grey: Agreed thats my worry too

Dr. Sauce
Dr. Sauce
5 years ago

Keeper query; standard ESPN, 12 team, head to head, 6 man keeper (no limits). Lucky enough to build a solid foundation (thanks in large part to reading your website:), as a result I have some admittedly nice but difficult decisions to make. Here is the list;
No brainers: Betts, Bryant, Goldy (1b), Rizzo (utility)
Need 2 of the following: Odor, Springer, Bogaerts, Syndergaard.

My gut (and your ranks) tell me it’s Odor and Springer. However, I have concerns that in a 12 team/6 man keeper I am going to get shut out of pitching. So maybe I go Syndergaard. Plus I won the league last year, therefore I don’t actually pick until 24th overall (after keepers declared as I traded my 1st round pick last year. THis could impact what pitching is available. I have been back and forth on this … please enlighten me. Thanks in advance.

YC
YC
5 years ago

Hey Grey- 12 team, 2 Catcher league. Down to final 2 keepers out of:

Myers @ $14
Thor @ $19
Gary Sanchez @ $12

This league is keep forever. My other keepers are all bats. Keep which two? Thanks!

MattTruss
Editor
5 years ago

Per our Kershaw discussion above I ran the numbers for each of the 12 most drafted first rounders last year (there were a total of 23 different players taken in the 1st round, I didn’t feel like running each) and here are their corresponding owner’s average finish position. Also of note, each player had an owner that both won and lost their league. I think the results bear out that Kershaw isn’t the best choice, but you be the judge:

Josh Donaldson – 5.75
Nolan Arenado – 5.75
Kris Bryant – 5.8
Mike Trout – 5.97
Anthony Rizzo – 5.97
Paul Goldschmidt – 6.04
Manny Machado – 6.09
Bryce Harper – 6.22
Giancarlo Stanton – 6.54
Clayton Kershaw – 6.61
Jose Altuve – 6.72
Carlos Correa – 6.76

I do think it’s clear that a power hitting corner man is the way to go in the first round. Makes me feel better about grabbing Rizzo and Goldy so far in my RCL drafts.

There were some issues with the data. For example, my data can’t account for team name changes. So not all 85 leagues are accounted for in each data set. All I have is draft data and final standings data. If a team changed their name in between that time frame, they aren’t included. That could sway some of the numbers, but probably not bigly.

MattTruss
Editor
Reply to  MattTruss
5 years ago

Another random note here are the number of league winners each draftee produced:

Mike Trout – 11
Kris Bryant – 10
Manny Machado – 10
Josh Donaldson – 9
Paul Goldschmidt – 9
Jose Altuve – 9
Nolan Arenado – 8
Giancarlo Stanton – 8
Bryce Harper – 7
Clayton Kershaw – 7
Anthony Rizzo – 5
Carlos Correa – 5

I really should have included this in one of the RCL posts, but oh well.

MattTruss
Editor
Reply to  Grey
5 years ago

Cool, I have 3 more before start of the season, I’m sure I can squeeze it into one of them.

The Great Knoche
The Great Knoche
Reply to  MattTruss
5 years ago

@MattTruss: You still can.

Big Magoo
Big Magoo
Reply to  MattTruss
5 years ago

@MattTruss: Great stuff, Matt. It’s obviously important to have a 1st rounder that doesn’t underperform expectations (looking at you Harper and Correa) or get hurt (Kershaw), but I wonder how many league winners rostered some of the big breakouts from last season (Villar, Hendricks, etc.). That’s probably just as big of a factor (if not bigger) in winning than nailing your 1st round pick.

Do you have that data available? If not, don’t worry about it. Just thinking out loud while I wait for my first draft of the year.

MattTruss
Editor
Reply to  Big Magoo
5 years ago

Yea, I think that’d be tough to nail down. Since Villar wasn’t really drafted it’d be tough data to quantify. I might be able to do how many teams had him on final rosters, but not sure that’d tell us much. I agree though, it’s a much bigger deal to get a first rounder that doesn’t suck than to get one that’s great.

MattTruss
Editor
Reply to  Grey
5 years ago

This does sort of put a damper on my Mookie @#2 arguement

MattTruss
Editor
Reply to  Grey
5 years ago

I’m just hoping I never end up with the 2nd pick and I’ll take whoever is left at 3, haha.

MattTruss
Editor
Reply to  Grey
5 years ago

Yea, most likely. For better or worse

The Great Knoche
The Great Knoche
Reply to  Grey
5 years ago

@Grey: I’d take Goldy, Bryant, Arenado, and Harper (I think) before Betts. Haven’t picked before 11 yet though.

MattTruss
Editor
Reply to  Grey
5 years ago

Ralph’s been grabbing Bryant at #3. That’s overcoming some serious homerism too!

MattTruss
Editor
Reply to  MattTruss
5 years ago

Yea, no idea what his rankings are like but he’s all-in on Bryant in his RCLs so far. Call me crazy, but I’m not going to be owning any Bryant this year. he scares me too much in the top 5.

MattTruss
Editor
Reply to  MattTruss
5 years ago

I just think he’s more of a back end of the first round guy like last year than a top 5. He strikes out a ton. I’m kinda looking at Rudy’s numbers here, but .275 and 9 steals (8 last year w/5 CS) is alright, but top 5…what if those swings and misses (Rudy/Steamer has him projected for 159 Ks) make his average drop even more? Just not feeling top 5 pick and he’s not falling past that, hence, I’m not getting him.

Big Magoo
Big Magoo
Reply to  MattTruss
5 years ago

@MattTruss: I’m with you on Bryant. Have him at #9 in my rankings. I think he’ll be just fine, but has some average downside. .275 wouldn’t surprise me.

MattTruss
Editor
Reply to  MattTruss
5 years ago

Boom! Magoo on board. Right, it’s hard to say bust when it’s 4 vs. 8/9, I think he’ll be fine too, just not on my team. The K% showed improvement, but if look closer I think he got a little lucky his K% wasn’t higher last year. Not great contact % numbers. Same numbers are making me a little nervous on Freeman too.

Big Magoo
Big Magoo
Reply to  MattTruss
5 years ago

@MattTruss: I’m less concerned about Freeman than Bryant. Not only can you get him later, but his hard hit and line drive rates are always elite. Even with the K%, I think he hits .285+. He actually got a bit unlucky in terms of homers last season too. Not saying he’ll hit 40, but I think he’s a good bet to hit 30 again.

MattTruss
Editor
Reply to  MattTruss
5 years ago

Yea, the jump from 18 HRs to 34 is a little suspicious, but I think 28 or so is probably safe. I’m just a little worried when knocking Bryant for things like SwStr%, Z-Contact % and Contact % and then I look and see Freeman was worse than him in all of them last year. That’s scary.

Cram It
Cram It
Reply to  Grey
5 years ago

@Grey: I’d take Bryant over Betts. I’d take Arenado too.

JeF WiTh 1 F
JeF WiTh 1 F
Reply to  Cram It
5 years ago

@Cram It: Im with you

Cram It
Cram It
Reply to  Cram It
5 years ago

@Cram It: But aren’t you also having to get one of those 2 if you’re not the guy taking Miggy or Rizzo? If you don’t take Freeman coming back, you’re in the same situation needing a 1B

Cram It
Cram It
Reply to  Cram It
5 years ago

@Cram It: And why can’t you get E5 or Votto? Hell, maybe Freeman gets back.

Geoff
Ralph Lifshitz
Reply to  Grey
5 years ago

@MattTruss: @Grey: Bryant is my two over Mookie. I feel like I need to get a cornerman w/ power that early. I’m nervous Mookie has a good not great season, and doesn’t repeat what he did last year. I’m confident that I can get similar production in 2017 from Bryant that I got in 2016.

Big Magoo
Big Magoo
Reply to  Grey
5 years ago

@Grey: I’m usually with you on Kershaw, but I think that this is the year to grab him. Not in an RCL, but a weekly format. Between Scherzer (hand), Syndergaard (durability?), Sale (velo drop + Fenway), Kluber (workload + mediocre fastball), and guys like Lester/Arrieta/Verlander (age/workload), Kershaw could provide a huge leg up on the pitching side. Could then attack offense while those other guys are coming off the board.

Big Magoo
Big Magoo
Reply to  Grey
5 years ago

@Grey: Depends how you feel about the player pool. I like Freeman and Myers and think that 3B is deep this year. Wouldn’t have a problem with Seager, Beltre, Rendon, Longo, Franco, Turner, Lamb, etc. as my 3B either.

It also depends what your ultimate goal is. If you’re shooting for the overall prize money in the NFBC, waiting on pitching is a sure way to miss out on that. If you’re playing in an RCL, it’s a different story. Waiting there is probably a good idea.

Geoff
Ralph Lifshitz
Reply to  Big Magoo
5 years ago

@Big Magoo: The back isn’t a concern? This had led me to lot of Yu and C-Mart led teams.

Big Magoo
Big Magoo
Reply to  Ralph Lifshitz
5 years ago

@Ralph Lifshitz: I do like MadBum and Yu this year. MadBum is about as safe as they come, and Yu looks primed for a dominant season.

I’m not too worried about Kershaw’s back. The Dodgers didn’t need to push him late last season. They just wanted to make sure he was fresh for the playoffs. He’s not completely out of the woods (back issues are always a concern), but he looked great in the postseason and looks sharp so far this spring. Such an advantage on the pitching side.

The Harrow
The Harrow
Reply to  MattTruss
5 years ago

@MattTruss: i don’t think this sample is even close to large enough to mean much of anything, i’m sure rudy would agree. you’d probably want thousands of leagues for anything to matter here.

Simply Fred
simply fred
Reply to  MattTruss
5 years ago

@MattTruss: With Trout ranking 2nd in end of year rater, looking for an explanation why he isn’t top dog in this list. Wondering if it might be that drafting first wasn’t the ideal spot?

Andrew
Andrew
5 years ago

Grey-

I’m in a 14-team 7×7 dynasty league where you can keep as many players as you want ($300 cap, 27 roster spots), but I have too many hitters that I want to keep. There are the typical roster spots (4 OFs) as well as a MI, CI, and Util spot. Keeper prices increase by $5 per year after you have kept a player for 2 years. All players are in year 1 currently.

Out of the list below who would you not keep based on their current and future value?

Todd Frazier $18
Albert Pujols $18
Hanley Ramirez $18
Brandon Belt $10

Xander Bogaerts $15
Francisco Lindor $10
Jonathan Schoop $9
Devon Travis $8
Jose Peraza $5

Justin Upton $21
J.D. Martinez $17
Yoenis Cespedes $14
Joc Pederson $10
Adam Duvall $5
Aaron Judge $5

Thanks for all your help!

Cram It
Cram It
5 years ago

How about Margot? Where’s he been going?

The Great Knoche
The Great Knoche
Reply to  Cram It
5 years ago

@Cram It: Shhh…….

Cram It
Cram It
Reply to  The Great Knoche
5 years ago

@The Great Knoche: Maybe you’re right. I didn’t consider this to be the equivalent to talking about undrafted players in the actual draft room. But if guys are sniping players based on who Cram and Knoche are talking about here, then we’ve got some major influence!

The Great Knoche
The Great Knoche
Reply to  Cram It
5 years ago

@Cram It: Oh its not the same, we’re all in different drafts. More concerned about MY draft que.

Let’s talk about Gorkys Hernandez.

Cram It
Cram It
Reply to  The Great Knoche
5 years ago

@The Great Knoche: Haha. I’ve heard that name, but don’t think you want to talk about him.

I got Margot. I’m content.

The Great Knoche
The Great Knoche
Reply to  Cram It
5 years ago

@Cram It: Margot went about 10 picks before it got back to me.

Ante Galic
Ante Galic
5 years ago

Grey!

Great write-up!

a. Made it back to Farchana, USA as you can see!!!

b. Btw, not to be picky or anything, but you meant SHIFT+DEL – in order to delete a document bypassing the ‘recycling bin’ on your desktop, to delete a file forever. Someone smarter will say that you can never completely remove a file from your computer but that’s for another story! CTRL+ALT+DEL will just shut down your computer but will not remove your Brett Lawrie file.

c. Love this 2B column – especially Mosi. Hopefully he’ll be as good as his pops was in LAD!!

Cheers,
Ante

Rabbit
Rabbit
5 years ago

In an OBP league, Schimpf seems like a pretty good deal to me. Do you agree? Also, I think you are selling yourself short with Jose Perdiem. I think that one is pretty good.

What's A Drexl?
What's A Drexl?
Reply to  Rabbit
5 years ago

@Rabbit: uggla 2.0

Roll of SAGNOF, Hear my Cry
Roll of SAGNOF, Hear my Cry
5 years ago

Grey,

Looking to get JV in an 12team AL only dynasty points league

my pitching staff is maxed out right now with Darvish, Paxton, Shoemaker, McCullers, E-Rod, Liriano, Hammel, Severino, Graveman, and Cessa and Clevinger who are RPs but will be starting for their teams.

would you try trading a combo of E-Rod, Liriano and Clevinger to get JV? JV owner only has 5 major league starters..

thnx!

Roll of SAGNOF, Hear my Cry
Roll of SAGNOF, Hear my Cry
Reply to  Grey
5 years ago

@Grey: got it done….E Rod, Liriano and $15 FAAB for JV

Roll of SAGNOF, Hear my Cry
Roll of SAGNOF, Hear my Cry
Reply to  Roll of SAGNOF, Hear my Cry
5 years ago

@Roll of SAGNOF, Hear my Cry: alright, after looking at it again, i realize that this offer is a joke

sry!

Cram It
Cram It
5 years ago

JB’s team is looking kinda rough. Sorry JB!

J-FOH
J-FOH
Reply to  Cram It
5 years ago

@Cram It: the last two years in perts has been the same too. I think he needs to stick to basketball

Cram It
Cram It
Reply to  J-FOH
5 years ago

@J-FOH: Odd. Those pitcher profiles though…

J-FOH
J-FOH
Reply to  Cram It
5 years ago

@Cram It: knowledge of players has nothing to do with ability to play the game or draft. I know in the past oaktown and myself both agreed we are so so drafters but great at playing so there are many ways to win. Also that being a good constructor of a team is not known until you actually play against a collection of quality opponents because you can make up for your deficiencies when you are surrounded by stupidity. Take those commenters that run down the laundry list of great adds they made in season and it makes you wonder about the schlubs they play against

What's A Drexl?
What's A Drexl?
Reply to  J-FOH
5 years ago

@J-FOH: yeah it’s actually a great arbiter of whether or not you should quit a non-money league by the time in which you can add certain players in certain league depth sizes. my best leagues (re: hardest) if i actually waited till a guy was an “add” by grey i’d have lost him by at least 5 days in most instances. whereas in my worst leagues (re:worst competition) those guys are laying around week(s) later unless i grabbed them.

seph meier
seph meier
5 years ago

12 team keep forever league where we start 6 sps in weekly lineups.

I can probably only justify keeping 4 starters and I currently have: kluber, degrom, Arrieta, a. Sanchez, m. Fulmer, j. Paxton, m. Pineda

I was offered Lindor for Kluber and I could use a SS as well as a stud like Lindor.

Would you deal kluber or try someone else? If so who would you offer for lindor as it will probably have to be a 1 for 1 trade.

Thanks and keep up the great work!

Packers
Packers
5 years ago

Grey, I just order your book. Looking forward to it. Thanks for your daily write ups.
I played in the rcl leagues once. My excuse of not playing again is the daily moves and mostly the comments about playing the format. I play in 7 other leagues but all weekly line up sets, with once a week waivers and about half of those we can trade. All money roto 12 teams. Am in JB NFBC league too. I love fantasy bb but I don’t want to be an inactive owner. I’m thinking that goes on however. What do you think the breakdown is? 50/50 on active owners or…..I’m thinking of joining one and see how it goes.

Matt
Matt
5 years ago

So who is the idiot that drafted Carrasco and Desmond in the middle of March?

Raises hand :(

I think I’ll make a few more teams since I’m probably screwed royally in those leagues.

Tom S
Tom S
5 years ago

I’m in a 10 team Roto with 8 keepers and a $290 budget.
I have to keep Polanco at $17 and Rizzo at $13.
Need 6 more from the following:
Giancarlo Stanton OF | MIA $ 1.00
A.J. Pollock OF | ARI $ 1.00
Kris Bryant 3B,OF | CHC $ 21.00
Mark Trumbo OF | BAL $ 8.00
Maikel Franco 3B | PHI $ 1.00
Billy Hamilton OF | CIN $ 3.00
Xander Bogaerts SS | BOS $ 14.00
Jose Peraza OF,SS | CIN $ 1.00
Chris Davis 1B | BAL $ 8.00
Brandon Belt 1B | SF $ 1.00
Jason Kipnis 2B | CLE $ 13.00
Corey Kluber P | CLE $ 11.00
Jose Quintana P | CHW $ 3.00
Kenta Maeda P | LAD $ 3.00
Rich Hill P | LAD $ 6.00
Kevin Gausman P | BAL $ 1.00
Aaron Sanchez P | TOR $ 6.00
Michael Pineda P | NYY $ 1.00
I’m thinking Stanton, Kluber, Bryant, Hamilton, Pollack and Boegaerts, because I believe that Hamilton, Pollock and Boegarts will probably go for more at auction than Trumbo, F4rance or Peraza. Any thoughts?

Tom S
Tom S
Reply to  Grey
5 years ago

@Grey: Thanks, need two more.

Great Caesar's Ghost
Great Caesar's Ghost
5 years ago

Grey,

Would you trade Stroman for Peraza in a 30-team dynasty roto league with std categories? In the early stages of a teardown and rebuild, so overall value matters more to me than specific need. Peraza’s getting a lot of love this preseason. A bit too much, if you ask me.

The Guy
The Guy
5 years ago

7×7 H2H Keeper w/ OBP, TB, QS, L added. Goldy/Stanton or Betts/Archer (or Betts/Jansen)

Ace of Spades
Ace of Spades
5 years ago

Grey

14 team mixed auction 5×5 can keep up to 10 keepers at increasing value. My keepers must be announced by Saturday.
My keepers are: S Marte – 31, J Pederson- 14, Kepler – 10, Buxton – 8, Odor – 12, B Miller – 6, Lamb – 3, Grandal – 3, Carrasco – 14, Pineda -11.
My plan was to spend a chunk of $ on another stud hitter ( Goldy, Rizzo, Miggy, Machado, Trout, and Harper should all be available this year ). and at least one reliable closer.
Carrasco and Pineda was going to be my #1 and #2 and I was hoping to get some bargain starters for the next 4 slots via your rankings.
Obviously, I am now concerned with Carrasco. Should I modify my plans and spend some more $ on another pitching anchor? studs like Kershaw, Scherzer and sale should be available, but I usually don’t spend on them types. Not sure who might be available to anchor the staff at reasonable prices right now. Should I even consider not keeping Carrasco ? ( seems like a panic move ). Or should I stay the course with my original plan and roll the dice and cross my fingers?

I also have the option of changing my keepers. I am currently throwing back Shoemaker – 10, Manea -10, R Iglesias -10 and A Miller – 11.

As always, thanks in advance for your advice.

Dr. Kenneth Noisewater
Dr. Kenneth Noisewater
5 years ago

You as pumped as me to see Beauty and the Beast this weekend without a child?!? I have no say in anything I do :(

Dr. Kenneth Noisewater
Dr. Kenneth Noisewater
Reply to  Grey
5 years ago

@Grey: That and needing to have her home by 9 on school nights.

peacecoast
peacecoast
Reply to  Grey
5 years ago

@Grey: Daniel Murphy called, said he wasn’t going

Dr. Kenneth Noisewater
Dr. Kenneth Noisewater
Reply to  Grey
5 years ago

@Grey: You mean me and my bros getting our D&D on right?

J-FOH
J-FOH
Reply to  Dr. Kenneth Noisewater
5 years ago

@Dr. Kenneth Noisewater: I’d pop a couple caps and stems and enjoy the ride. If that’s not possible I’m sure there is a mighty fine brownie or cookie to be had. Either way get fucked up

Dr. Kenneth Noisewater
Dr. Kenneth Noisewater
Reply to  J-FOH
5 years ago

@J-FOH: Ha, I did tell her that we are at least seeing it in IMAX. Though it would be lovely except for these pesky randoms at work, which I’ve never had in over 3 years but others have had several.

J-FOH
J-FOH
Reply to  Dr. Kenneth Noisewater
5 years ago

@Dr. Kenneth Noisewater: can’t wait for all the toddlers taken to the movie that you get to deal with. Will be hoping to get an update on Saturday

peacecoast
peacecoast
5 years ago

Grey,
what’s a cooler name for an insurance salesman: Whit Merrifield or Dansby Swanson?

peacecoast
peacecoast
Reply to  Grey
5 years ago

@Grey: ya good call, he has a little moustache and his pants are too tight, but he thinks he’s a badass.

Dansby is the guy from Fargo season 1 who was a hobbit too

peacecoast
peacecoast
Reply to  Grey
5 years ago

@Grey: reading the book, enjoying so far. Some background please. was it written slowly over years or cranked out in a weekend of inspiration?

J-FOH
J-FOH
5 years ago

Jose Practical? But say it like you are the host of a Mexican game show

Kendrick Llama
Kendrick Llama
5 years ago

Keep question:

$328 budget, 2 of 3:
Swanson $8
Sano $6
J Turner $1

MattTruss
Editor
5 years ago

Solo Eff Jef – We’re getting the Frequent Commenter League RCL up and running for this year – You want in?

JeF WiTh 1 F
JeF WiTh 1 F
Reply to  MattTruss
5 years ago

@MattTruss: Sure…Heres my email…[email protected]…thanks bro

MattTruss
Editor
Reply to  JeF WiTh 1 F
5 years ago

Sent!

JeF WiTh 1 F
JeF WiTh 1 F
Reply to  MattTruss
5 years ago

@MattTruss: Damn you’re quick

J-FOH
J-FOH
Reply to  JeF WiTh 1 F
5 years ago

@JeF WiTh 1 F: his wife says the same thing

JeF WiTh 1 F
JeF WiTh 1 F
Reply to  J-FOH
5 years ago

@J-FOH: Not to me

J-FOH
J-FOH
Reply to  JeF WiTh 1 F
5 years ago

@JeF WiTh 1 F: ouch

JeF WiTh 1 F
JeF WiTh 1 F
Reply to  J-FOH
5 years ago

@J-FOH: I might have just got invited and kicked out within a half hour lol

J-FOH
J-FOH
Reply to  JeF WiTh 1 F
5 years ago

@JeF WiTh 1 F: my work here is done. Thats my dumpster baby

JeF WiTh 1 F
JeF WiTh 1 F
Reply to  J-FOH
5 years ago

@J-FOH: Ha

MattTruss
Editor
Reply to  JeF WiTh 1 F
5 years ago

Ha! I totally missed this exchange. You’re into Cougs too huh? Right on

J-FOH
J-FOH
Reply to  MattTruss
5 years ago

@MattTruss: I’m into the “willing to have sex with me”

Cram It
Cram It
5 years ago

Hi Grey. I know 5 people have asked about Carrasco’s elbow already. But I need a personalized answer to MY question. Can’t they just pee on his elbow? I mean, it’s worked for some, right?

The Great Knoche
The Great Knoche
Reply to  Cram It
5 years ago

@Cram It: That was hands. Good for solid grip. Maybe it will grip the elbow tendons tighter?

Golden Shower Medicine

Cram It
Cram It
Reply to  Grey
5 years ago

@Grey: She doesn’t have to know that.

JR
JR
5 years ago

With Carrasco’s recent elbow soreness, are you cooling off on him at all? Indians are saying an MRI confirmed there’s no damage, but elbow soreness this early is a bit scary. He still above around 13 overall a team SP for you?

Illuminatty
Illuminatty
5 years ago

Hey Gray,

hope all is well, just wanted to get your thoughts on which SS to pair up Mike Trout and Freeman. I read your article on top 20 SS but still can’t come to a decision. If Correa or Turner falls at pick 20 or 21 I will certainly take them, but for now I have to be realistic and chose between Seager, Lindor or Story. I play in H2H points league, so please if you can give me your feedback, I’d appreciate it.

NickfromtheRoc
NickfromtheRoc
5 years ago

Hey Grey,

Thanks for the write up as always. I’m in a bit of a conundrum for my last keeper in a keep forever H2H 5×5 league. I’m leaning towards Frazier, but also have Pujols, Schoop, K. Davis and Cain as borderline keepers. Other offensive keepers are Machado, Encarnacion, Marte and Aaron Judge (have to keep one rookie). Any thoughts?

In another league (40 man 15 team dynasty – OPS and Holds with a $300 budget), do you think $35 for Frazier and a $17 Ozuna are too expensive. They’re my two most expensive offensive pieces, and I’m thinking I’d be better off with that cap space.

Thanks as always for the insights!

MattTruss
Editor
5 years ago

You keep your dirty ADP rising paws off my boy Peraza. I’ve been enjoying getting him past the 100th pick, ~130. In that RCL draft last night he got sniped from me at 104. He’ll totally have an ADP of 75 by the time April rolls around. Blah. These types of things are the only benefit to drafting early.

MattTruss
Editor
Reply to  Grey
5 years ago

Yeah, except for him.

Are we that worried about Carrasco? I’ve got to submit keepers by Friday night and was still planning to keep him. It’s keep 12 forever. If I don’t keep him I’d keep either Miguel Sano or Jose Peraza, probably Peraza based on my team needs (SB, OBP). What do you think?

I’m planning to keep Dahl too. Maybe too much DL risk to keep both?

MattTruss
Editor
Reply to  Grey
5 years ago

Haha, maybe it should be! So you’re saying I have too much injury risk? I’m still a sucker for Dahl’s potential in Coors. It’s keep forever, so I don’t really want to throw him back. Maybe I’ll toss Carrasco back now and keep Peraza though.

MattTruss
Editor
Reply to  Grey
5 years ago

Word, good call. I likely have a better chance to draft Carrasco back if I want him. Besides, screw pitchers! Good talk, thanks.

J-FOH
J-FOH
Reply to  MattTruss
5 years ago

@MattTruss: Not sure if I would redraft him. C’mon you’re Matt Motherfuckin’ Truss. You Can do it!

MattTruss
Editor
Reply to  J-FOH
5 years ago

Yea, just saying if hypothetically I wanted him, I could. You’re right though, this is H2H roto too. I typically just keep most if not all my offense and then just go quantity over quality in pitching. See, this is why I have you guys around, keep me honest.

Roger Podacter
Roger Podacter
5 years ago

Missed my RCL draft lastnight and ended up with three catchers.

It’ll be an uphill battle this year no doubt – should be fun though. Never used ESPN before only Yahoo –

Good luck everyone.

Roger Podacter
Roger Podacter
Reply to  Grey
5 years ago

@Grey: That’s exactly what I’ve done!

It’s baseball, at the end of the day, it will always be a crap-shoot.

Go Severino!?

You Know Nothing, J.T. Snow
You Know Nothing, J.T. Snow
5 years ago

Quick strategy question:

Have a 12 team H2H points draft coming up on Sunday and in the league we must have 3 keepers and can keep up to 4. I finished 3rd last year so my position is not very high. I’m thinking about not keeping Price to move up into the third round and draft a pitcher (my other pitcher keeper is McCullers.) I’m assuming 4/5 others will be doing the same so I’d be looking at the 6th or so pick. The pitchers that may be available at that spot are Martinez, Darvish, Degrom, Verlander, Tanaka. Think it’s worth ditching Price to move up to get any of these guys? I’d be taking a decent risk by not keeping him, but the potential at Darvish or Verlander is very tempting. What do you think? Keep Price and start him on the DL or take a chance by dropping him?

You Know Nothing, J.T. Snow
You Know Nothing, J.T. Snow
Reply to  Grey
5 years ago

@Grey: Thanks!

The Great Knoche
The Great Knoche
5 years ago

Gyorko?

The Great Knoche
The Great Knoche
Reply to  Grey
5 years ago

@Grey: You’re just saving him up for your multi-positional sleeper post.

The Great Knoche
The Great Knoche
Reply to  Grey
5 years ago

@Grey: Wilmer Flores, Marwin Gonzalez, Tyler Saladino.

Also this could be your one and only opportunity to bestow upon others the greatness of Shawn O’Malley

Racehorse
Racehorse
5 years ago

Grey –

I have the last pick in my 16 team dynasty league, and I need to add pitching.

My starters are …

1. deGrom
2. Carrasco (and is barking elbow)
3. Odorizzi
4. Gsellmen
5. Cotton

My bullpen …

1. Kenley
2. Ottavino
3. Maurer
4. Capps
5. Strahm

I normally try and carry 8 starters and 5 relievers (saves & holds), which has me leaning toward Adam Conley, but Daniel Hudson is available.

Who do I take, Conley or Hudson?

As always, thank you!

Hawk
Hawk
5 years ago

Grey – thanks for the writeup!

I know you love Carlos Carrasco but he’s getting his brains beat in so far this spring. Does this have you (or any of the other learned folks on this page!) reconsidering where he should be drafted?

Cram It
Cram It
Reply to  Hawk
5 years ago

@Hawk: Spring Training stats don’t mean anything. Unless they can be correlated with an injury, which it seems they may be. Severity TBD.

Blake
Blake
5 years ago

Grey,

Will you be updating your tiers based on injuries sustained in spring training? For instance – carrasco with a swollen elbow is not good….

Blake
Blake
Reply to  Grey
5 years ago

@Grey:

So in your top 20 pitching post – u move guys in/out of the tiers?

Blake
Blake
Reply to  Grey
5 years ago

@Grey:

it seems you and malmoney differ in your projections (wins, SO’s, etc). Not sure who I go by? I agree with your logic but how do I get your projections so I can put them in his projections spreadsheet?