For these pitcher pairings, I’m going to be using our 2015 fantasy baseball rankings.  Notably, the top 20 starters for 2015 fantasy baseball, top 40 starters for 2015, top 60 starters for 2015 and the top 80 starters for 2015.  You can also just go to our Fantasy Baseball War Room.  Okay, formalities out of the way.  *rolls up sleeves, makes farting noise with hand under armpit, rolls down sleeve*   Let’s get busy!  Now, what is a pitcher pairing?  It’s your plan for putting together a fantasy staff.  A course of action.  If you have A pitcher, which B, C, D, E and F pitcher goes with him?  Which is different than ‘F this pitcher,’ that’s what you say in May.  You should have six starters.  The sixth starter is Tony Cingrani or take whoever you want.  I suggest an upside pick.  Cingrani comes to mind.  Or Jesse Hahn.  Taijuan also comes to mind.  I’m going to assume you’re in a 12 team, 5×5 and some variation of 9 pitcher leagues like the Razzball Commenter Leagues.  Speaking of which, the RCL league sign-ups begin on Monday (if ESPN opens its doors). (NOTE: What you are about to read is massively confusing.  If it were found scribbled in a notebook, the FBI would be watching me.  If Charles Manson stood up and read this at the next prison Meet N’ Greet, no one would blink an eye.)  Anyway, here’s pitcher pairings for pitching staffs for 2015 fantasy baseball drafts:

TIERS

If your first pitcher is from the tiers: “Security blankets are for bouncers who are chilly,” or “Still number ones, but my teeth hurt.  It might be the caveats.” — These tiers are from Kershaw to Cueto.  If you draft someone from these tiers, you’ll probably lose your league or get lucky with your hitters.  If you do draft one, I wouldn’t take another pitcher until the tiers, Go ahead, draft your pants off.  No, figuratively! or You’re not on the ones and twos, just twos and maybe threes.  Then grab three guys from any of the tiers, Scarf isn’t just a piece of clothing I’m wearing, it’s a verb for nom nom nomYou can see these guys are a bad mother– Shut yo’ mouth! and Bridge Building 101.  Finally one guy from You know they’re sexy, sexy, sexy cos you heard it from hearsay. So, you’d have something like F-Her, Fiers, Hutchison, Lynn, Shelby and Carlos Martinez or Price, deGrom, Quintana, Peavy, Gio and Paxton. Either of those staffs will probably have 13’s in every pitching category in a 12 team league.

If your first pitcher is from the tier, “Commence drafting, Drafty McDraftstein.” – This tier goes from Samardzija to Iwakuma.  I’d pair any of them with anyone in the same tier or in the Save your druthers for your mothers, these are (this is?) my druthers tier, but it’s not mandatory.  In other words, if I have Samardzija, I wouldn’t ignore the rest of his tier if they fell to me or Hamels’s tier, but I wouldn’t reach either. You’ll be fine taking Samardzija and moving right into the Go ahead, draft your pants off.  No, figuratively! or You’re not on the ones and twos, just twos and maybe threes tier.  Let’s say you start your staff with Samardzija and Carrasco because he falls to you, you should skip right to the nom nom nom tier and grab someone, say, Stroman. So now you have Samardzija, Carrasco and Stroman, then you stay in the nom nom nom tier or jump to Shut yo’ mouth! or unto the Bridge Building tier and grab two pitchers. Finally, you jump to “You know they’re sexy, sexy, sexy” and ask, “Can I have a Hahn?”  (Yes, this is like a Choose Your Own Adventure.)  So that leaves you with Samardzija, Carrasco, Stroman, Pineda, Quintana and Hahn. That’s one great looking staff, or so she said, whoever she is.

Now if you grab Samardzija or Iwakuma or anyone in their tier, but you skip Hamels’s tier and go straight to Shoemaker or Ryu’s tier, then you grab two guys from either tier.  So you grab Shoemaker and Ryu or Fiers and Gray or any combo from those two tiers. At this point, you should have three starters. Then grab two from nom nom nom, Shut yo’ mouth! and Bridge Building.  Finally, You know they’re sexy, sexy, sexy cos you heard it from hearsay.  That could leave you with a staff of Arrieta, Fiers, Teheran, Archer, Salazar and Cingrani. That’s probably the best staff I’ve ever seen in the entire universe.

If your first pitcher is from the tier, “Save your druthers for your mothers, these are (this is?) my druthers.” – This tier goes from Hamels to Hughes. This is my ideal pairing (which will be as convoluted as everything that came before it.  Anyone that actually reads AND understands this post deserves a gold star and a head exam.) Grab your first pitcher from the Hamels tier, your next two pitchers from the Go ahead, draft your pants off.  No, figuratively! tier, then two pitchers from nom nom nom, Shut yo’ mouth! and the bridge tiers, then one guy from the sexy, sexy tier. So you could have Hamels, Fiers, Sonny Boy, Cashner, Eovaldi and Wacha. You just won your league and games haven’t even started. You’re welcome.

Close to ideal (let’s say ideal-ish) is if you draft one pitcher from Hamels’s tier, two pitchers from either the Go ahead, draft your pants off.  No, figuratively! tier or You’re not on the ones and twos, just twos and maybe threes tier, two from the nom nom nom, Shut yo’ mouth! and bridge tiers and a sexy, sexy tier pitcher. So, that could give you Hamels, Sonny Boy, Ryu, Archer, Cashner and Cingrani. Honestly, that staff looks pretty good to me; go buy yourself an ice cream cone and celebrate.

Not ideal but it will do, Pooh (let’s call it ideally Pooh) is if you draft two pitchers from Hamels’s tier, then skip to the nom nom nom, Shut yo’ mouth! and bridge tiers and grab three guys, then onto sexy, sexy. So, you could have Hamels, Gerrit, Salazar, Shelby, Burnett and Bauer (or Hahn or Gausman or any sixth starter). Could this post become more confusing?  Short answer: no.  Long answer: nooooooooooo.  But let’s try…

OVERALL THOUGHTS

You can’t go wrong with a lot of different sets of pitchers. Shoot (not you Dick Cheney), you probably could do fine with drafting only 3 starters and 3 great relievers and streaming. If you stick to the pitchers I like, then you’ll do well matching them up any way you see fit. The key is to make sure you are drafting offense early and often. What I’m doing with my tiers pairing is making sure you’re drafting a balanced staff. You can take too much upside. That’s why every time I draft a guy from the nom nom nom tier, I’m trying to look at the Shut yo’ mouth! or Bridge tiers and not going straight to sexy, sexy.  The Shut yo’ mouth! and Bridge tiers are the key tiers in the starter rankings. They are not your upside starters; they are your “Hopefully he can give me a 6 IP, 2 ER start, because Salazar is fondling himself at a mascot and it’s the best thing he’s done with his balls all year,” starters.  Look at the names in those tiers:  Cashner, Gio, Quintana, Ervin, Wily, etc. You’re really hoping to take the risk off of your Salazars and Archers with them.  Shut yo’ mouth! or Bridges won’t win you your league, but without them you’re gonna lose.  Huh?  Okay, let’s move on.

TROUBLE AREAS

WHIP Issues – For every pitcher who is projected over a 1.23 WHIP, take one below. The quicker you do this, the better off you’ll be. For instance, if you take Wheeler, who I have projected for a 1.28, you need to pair him with someone I have projected below a 1.23.  Don’t pair Wheeler with Liriano. Don’t pair Wheeler with Yordano. Pair Wheeler with McHugh. Pair him with Stroman.  Pair him with Ryu.  Remember, the further you get into the rankings, the harder it becomes to find lower WHIPs.  Side note: WHIP can be helped by closers and MRs… Or hurt by them.

What about “Pop quiz, no essay questions?!” or “Besame mi cuello, mi safety net!” – There’s a whole slew of pitchers I haven’t mentioned after the sexy, sexy tier. I even like some of them, namely the Pop quiz, no essay questions and Besame mi cuello, mi safety net! tiers in the top 100 starters for 2015 fantasy baseball. These guys are 7th starters, DL-bound or minor league-bound starters that you’re stashing. I wouldn’t count on any of them for anything. I like me some Rubby as much as the next guy, but are you really starting him every time out in April and risking a huge blow up, which would lead to a crushing April that leaves you in your fantasy baseball basement and a chance to start trading for keepers in May? You take a flyer on someone like Syndergaard, hope he gets the call and if he doesn’t, you decide whether to drop him in redraft leagues.  He’s not your 6th starter.

K ISSUES – For drafters who follow my lead, this shouldn’t be much of an issue. You’re shooting for around 150/starter.

Overall Pitching Issues – Just about everyone, including yours truly, drops at least one of their starters by May 1st. Obviously, you want the best team coming out the draft, but it’s a marathon not a sprint. Starters always come out of nowhere on waivers to become productive. Always. Even in deep leagues.

BONUS FEATURE

Because we both know everything above this point was the gibberish of a mad mind, here’s an easy to use shortcut. Just click the pitcher you draft, then you’ll get a short list of the next pitcher you’re supposed to draft.  Frank Voila, snitches! Now, have at it:

 
  1. scott steelers says:
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    Love this thing. Thanks! So I’ll be starting the season with Abreu, Mccutch, Puig, Betts, Scherzer. My first 2 picks could be hitters, avail at my picks will be a choice of arenado, Billy Hamilton, pence, pujols it looks like. Pitchers avail will be darvish, hamels, Zimmerman, lester, arrieta. Possibly madbum. Which route would you go? Thanks Grey

  2. And Now the John Lovitz Dancers! says:
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    hells yeah, the PPP!

  3. Gordon Shumway says:
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    Thanks, Grey- does this change at all in H2H and/or auction leagues?

    • Grey

      Grey says:
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      @Gordon Shumway: Alf! Yeah, it does a bit for H2H…I’ll go over strategy for separate leagues…

      • dem ribbies says:
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        @Grey:Hey Grey, when you do go over the strategy for H2H, would you pls include a thought or two on any impact that daily rosters might have on draft strategy? As of now all’s I know is that most teams in the league reserve 3/5’ths of their bench for SP’s to get more chances for W/QS/K’s. Anyhow, pls shed some insight on that if you would. Thanks!

        • Grey

          Grey says:
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          I’ll go over H2H… I will say that you want quantity of SPs over quality more so in H2H

    • And Now the John Lovitz Dancers! says:
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      @Gordon Shumway: short answer, you need more SP for H2H, since you have no max innings, often getting as many K’s/wins as possible is a freeroll, esp in weeks where you are losing ERA/WHIP and are pretty likely to end up losing those. There’s more to it than that of course, but that’s the simple and obvious.

  4. Whatever says:
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    Hey Grey:

    Thoughts on this trade?

    10 Team Mixed Keeper w/minors (OBP and 350 cap)

    I give up Ventura (1), Pollock (2) and Addison Russell (minor)

    for Scherzer (16)

    Here are my current keepers (10) allowed:

    freeman(17), Chris Davis (12), Altuve (15), Ian Desmond (14), Yelich (7), Kole C (3), Ozuna (1), Pollock(2), Ventura (1), Kenley jansen (6)

    I have Quintana/Cashner for a buck that can take the place of Ventura as a keeper so I am thinking this trade is basically Scherzer for Pollock/Russell

    Thanks,

    Whatever

    • JeF With 1 F says:
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      @Whatever: Id hold

    • J-FOH says:
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      @Whatever: how many years can you keep? is this dynasty?

      • Whatever says:
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        @J-FOH:

        its not a dynasty. would have to trade a few pieces after a while.

        if i trade for scherzer can keep him for one year at 16 or two years at 21.
        ventura i can keep for another two years at a buck, same with cashner or quintana
        pollock i can keep for another two years at 2
        russell has to be promoted after 450AB’s so he is a couple of years away.

        • Whatever says:
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          @Whatever:

          I also have Soler in my minors so trading away Pollock is not that big of a hit.

          • Wake Up says:
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            @Whatever: I’d take Scherzer…

            • Whatever says:
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              @Wake Up:

              appreciate the inputs.

              • Grey

                Grey says:
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                @Whatever: Hey, fellas, nice inputs!

                • Whatever says:
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                  @Grey:

                  You should see my outputs! :)

                  • Whatever says:
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                    @Whatever:

                    But yes, I appreciate the help.

                  • Grey

                    Grey says:
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                    I love any puts

                    • Whatever says:
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                      @Grey:

                      :)

          • J-FOH says:
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            @Whatever: I agree with wake

            • Whatever says:
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              @J-FOH:

              Thx.

  5. Robert says:
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    In a 10 team league, I plan on picking up 2 pitchers in the top 25. So like Arrieta, Woods, hopefully some other guys fall down in value on draft day. First pitcher would be in 5-7 round and one soon after. I feel this will allow me to load up on hitters early and still allow a great staff.
    Thanks again

  6. JeF With 1 F says:
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    Heres my Dynasty squad…won last year and made some tweeks with trades going into this year…Looking like a repeat

    C. Gattis
    1B. Goldy
    2b. Wong
    3b. Arenado
    SS. Bogaerts
    CI. Miggy
    MI. D.Gordon
    LF. Marte
    CF. Cutch
    RF. Cuddyer
    OF. C.Dickerson
    Util. C.Gomez
    Util. T.Frazier

    P. A.Wood
    P. Carrasco
    P. M.Harvey
    P. Z.Wheeler
    P. H.Bailey
    P. M.Fiers
    P. L.Lynn
    P. W.Peralta
    P. Gausman
    RP. A.Miller
    RP. K.Giles

    Bench: Kennys, Wet Tail, Arismendy (Going to drop Arismendy for Hutchinson in the draft)…Also planning on adding M.Saunders in the draft to cover my ass on Cuddyer.

      • JeF With 1 F says:
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        @PK: Just Pee?

    • KB says:
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      @JeF With 1 F: Does it even matter what you do in the draft?

      • JeF With 1 F says:
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        @KB: Probably not ha

    • Wake Up says:
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      @JeF With 1 F: Yeah, I was thinking which one these things don’t belong with Cuddyer…but I see you got that covered.
      Nice team

      • J-FOH says:
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        @Wake Up: looks like a strong league

        • Wake Up says:
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          @J-FOH: Is that sarcasfont or new times Roman?

          • J-FOH says:
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            @Wake Up: oh no my phone auto corrected.

            • Wake Up says:
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              @J-FOH: HA

        • JeF With 1 F says:
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          @J-FOH: Or just a strong owner

      • JeF With 1 F says:
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        @Grey: 10 teams…30 man rosters

        • Grey

          Grey says:
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          Ah, yeah, team is solid, but in a 10 team league you’ll still have to work it

          • JeF With 1 F says:
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            @Grey: Ill put my thang down flip it and reverse it

            • Grey

              Grey says:
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              Perfect

    • M says:
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      @JeF With 1 F: solid team across the board

  7. Swfcdan says:
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    The FBI are watching you (again)!

    • Grey

      Grey says:
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      @Swfcdan: Damn them…I mean, I welcome it!

  8. Cram It says:
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    TGIF Grey. For auctions, do you have a strategy regarding closers? I know you don’t pay for a stud, so do you allot a certain amount for them? Like $15-$20 for 3 closers? Something like that…

    • Grey

      Grey says:
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      @Cram It: One $12 closer, no one else over $10, trying for 3, depends on league size

      • Cram It says:
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        @Grey: 13 teams. Thanks.

        • Grey

          Grey says:
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          @Cram It: You should have 3 closers, yeah

  9. burningbridges247 says:
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    There is no better thing on earth than this right here….except for maybe bacon- but it’s CLOSE!!! Awesome, excellent, A++ job this year, Grey. Couldn’t be more excited about drafting pitchers late this year. Thanks for the help!

    • J-FOH says:
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      @burningbridges247: this is a fun tool to play with. Next year it might come in bacon flavor

      • burningbridges247 says:
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        @J-FOH: See…..now your just playing with my emotions.

  10. the swinging says:
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    The best thing to do is make sure ur upside guys are healthy and have a solid starting job comin out of spring and draft the players u think will be the best.

  11. Ante GALIC says:
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    Grey!

    Nice work. Whom would you rather have in H2H seasonal points league?

    A. Salazar or Paxton?

    B. D’Arnaud or Rosario?

    Cheers,
    Ante

    • JeF With 1 F says:
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      @Ante GALIC: Paxton/D’Arnaud

    • J-FOH says:
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      @Ante GALIC: depends, what are the point values?

      • J-FOH says:
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        @Grey: to be fair, we have seen some ridiculously weird points league numbers in here

        • Grey

          Grey says:
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          Yeah, I’d hope people would mention if they’re weird

          • J-FOH says:
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            @Grey: yup, we need a form for roster questions

            • Grey

              Grey says:
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              Number of teams is number one

              • J_FOH says:
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                @Grey: I will never forget the guy who asked about his points league who had a ridiculous penalties for strikeouts. It literally made every stud hurt you more than help you

                • Grey

                  Grey says:
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                  Oh, yeah, Genique…Wait, maybe that was Worst Cooks in America…

                  • J_FOH says:
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                    @Grey: Im two episodes behind because the daughter has been in trouble lately. no spoilers

                    • Grey

                      Grey says:
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                      Ah, okay, no spoilers then

  12. Hadouken says:
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    Just a heads up…Ryu’s stat line is jumbled in the War Room:

    Hyun-Jin Ryu 14 0 1.18 162.00 3

    Should be:

    Hyun-Jin Ryu 14 162 3.00 1.18 0

    • Grey

      Grey says:
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      @Hadouken: Oops, that’s a copy and paste error… I’ll fix when done with comments this AM

  13. Fungazi says:
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    Am I missing something, or is pitching more shaky than ever? There are 19 SP in the druthers/pants off/scarf tiers which seems like we should be grabbing mostly from. Of those 19, only 5 pitchers have had more than one full year (180ish IP, 30ish GS) of experience.

    Is there no tier of ‘safe’ guys that don’t have chance of TJ in April or being demoted by May?

  14. Tone DEAF! says:
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    Yo Grey, I want your opinion on my keepers if you will…

    12 team – H2H points league.
    Keep 5

    I know I’m keeping these guys:

    Goldy in the 1st round
    F-Her in the 2nd
    Rizzo in the 8th
    Harper in the 9th

    Who should be my last keeper?

    Brantley 18th
    Springer 23rd
    Soler 26th
    Polanco 26th
    Jo-Fer 21st
    Harvey 23rd

    It’s a keep forever league, however, players get more expensive by 3 rounds each year.

    • Cram It says:
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      @Tone DEAF!: I vote Soler.

    • Nick says:
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      @Tone DEAF!: I’d probably keep Springer, but Brantley and Soler are a close 2nd and 3rd for me.

    • Grey

      Grey says:
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      @Tone DEAF!: I like the new name! Brantley

      • Tone DEAF! says:
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        @Grey:

        The values are all great… Definitely a tough choice. Thanks for the input guys!

        • Grey

          Grey says:
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          No problem, DEAF

          • Nick says:
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            @Grey: Rizzo, Brantley, Springer, Soler, Harvey

            I’d rather have those guys than Goldy, Felix, and Harper.

            • Grey

              Grey says:
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              Gotcha

  15. Wake Up says:
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    Where’s the confusing part? Reads as straight forward as the frigid crystal blue waters, at the base of the snow capped Sierra Nevadas. Well, if you were assembling Swedish piecemeal furniture on the dock, but still enjoying the beautiful Lake Tahoe view. Sure maybe you tear part of your fingernail off, but you also a brand spanking new bookshelf. Now where to find books? There’s still books right…

    • J-FOH says:
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      @Wake Up: thrift stores? Yard sales? Holding up someone’s couch?

    • Grey

      Grey says:
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      @Wake Up: How doesn’t Ikea have Swedish models on the floor as salespeople? A friend wants to know

      • Wake Up says:
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        @Grey: @Grey: Good call. Cuz they keep the ones that actually fit together in Svenska? Helan gar!

        • Grey

          Grey says:
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          Helan gar!

  16. Peter says:
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    15 team mixed 5×5 (std). Which 3 do I freeze (same price for all 4) from the following: J. Pederson, Z. Britton. D. Betances & J Harrison?

    Thanks.

    Peter

    • Grey

      Grey says:
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      @Peter: Not Harrison

  17. M says:
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    Grey, I am in a 6×6 15 team auction league that over the years has gravitated more and more to pitching. I won the league last year by basically spending about $70 of the $300 budget on pitchinf (got real lucky with the endgame pitchers-my staff consisted of $32 Price, $13 Latos, $15 Smyly, $2 Kluber, $1 Richards, $1 Hutchinson, $1 Ross ect.)

    So I’m rolling into the draft keeping a $7 Kluber and a $23 A.Wood, but most of the other top guys like Kershaw King Felix Sale Strasburg Scherzer Cobb Cueto MadBum Hamels are getting kept by their owners leaving not too many elite top 30 pitchers out there. Do you recommend in this case buying a $30+ Price, to have a Price Kluber Wood foundation, then just rolling with endgame upside guys (assuming I spend the majority of my cap on offense again)?

    • Grey

      Grey says:
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      @M: $70 is next to nothing on pitching in a $300 league…

      • M says:
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        @Grey: so getting an ace is a priority with all those top SP kept?

        • Grey

          Grey says:
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          Not if you won your league last year using only $70

          • M says:
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            @Grey: well I ended up getting a top 5 ace in Price and lucked out big time nabbing Richards Smyly Kluber Ross with my endgame picks . Carrasco is kept, who do you see emerging like Richards Kluber and Ross did last year?

            • Grey

              Grey says:
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              See my rankings or this post you’re commenting in

              • M says:
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                @Grey: so if I’m correct…something along the lines of, Pineda, Quintana Hahn Cashner McHugh Cingrani Paxton… (Arrieta Shoemaker Cobb Carrasco are kept) thanks!

                • Grey

                  Grey says:
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                  That feels a little light

                  • M says:
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                    @Grey: even if a buy an ace at the draft and fill out my rotation (3-4spots with those guys)?

                    • Grey

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                      I’m going off what pitchers you’re showing me, not what you could get too

  18. Dave says:
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    Cool article. Thanks!

    I struggle with managing my pitching in fantasy. I find it the hardest aspect… 16 team H2H keeper with a farm system. keep 12 players depending on age and games played/ABs, roster of 22. My staff to start the season is:

    Iwakuma
    Carrasco
    Alex Wood
    Wheeler
    Fister
    Hutchinson
    Paxton
    Aaron Sanchez (can be demoted to farm if he doesnt get a starting job)
    Daniel Norris (can be demoted to farm if he doesnt get a starting job)

    In a 16 team league, is SP a position of strength for me? Should I be shopping a starter here for some offense? I am pretty lacking, especially in power and steals.

    Thoughts?

    • Wake Up says:
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      @Dave: I would try to shop an arm for power…

    • Grey

      Grey says:
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      @Dave: Shop Fister

  19. Strolg says:
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    Can’t remember, is Brandon Morrow the start of the Best Friend’s C*ck Tier and does that mean we stream them on the road against ugly teams?

    • Wake Up says:
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      @Strolg: HaHa Dix

    • Grey

      Grey says:
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      @Strolg: The threesome tier, you mean? They’re 7th SPs

  20. Zar says:
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    Hey Grey,

    Can I get some feed back on this team? It’s a yahoo root, 2 utility, 2 SP, and 2 RP. I tried to stay as far back on SPs and closers, but they started going quickly. My first was Hisashi at 81. Also for reference, Yasmani Tomas went off at 158.

    1. (9) Adam Jones OF
    2. (16) Edwin Encarnación 1B
    3. (33) Justin Upton OF
    4. (40) Hunter Pence OF
    5. (57) Nolan Arenado 3B
    6. (64) Dee Gordon 2B
    7. (81) Hisashi Iwakuma SP
    8. (88) Jake Arrieta SP
    9. (105) Chris Davis 1B,3B
    10. (112) Tyson Ross SP
    11. (129) Starlin Castro SS
    12. (136) Steve Cishek RP
    13. (153) Zach Britton RP
    14. (160) Santiago Casilla RP
    15. (177) Tanner Roark SP
    16. (184) Wilson Ramos C
    17. (201) Matt Cain SP
    18. (208) Shin-Soo Choo OF
    19. (225) John Lackey SP
    20. (232) Joc Pederson OF
    21. (249) Aaron Hill 2B,3B
    22. (256) Jake Peavy SP
    23. (273) Yovani Gallardo SP

    • Grey

      Grey says:
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      @Zar: How many teams?

      • Zar says:
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        @Grey: 12 teams.

    • Grey

      Grey says:
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      @Zar: Team looks great until about Casilla… Then it seems to go off the rails… Don’t like Roark or Ramos that high, don’t like Cain or Choo or Lackey or… Well you know from my rankings.

      • Zar says:
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        @Grey: Yeah, that’s what I thought. I had to go mobile at about that point, and my phone started auto drafting when I lost connection. I’m pretty happy with the beginning, but the end made me unhappy. Thanks!

        • Grey

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          In 12 team you’ll be okay fixing the end during the season

        • Mordacious Levator says:
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          @Zar: roark doesn’t have job, don’t draft him, unless dynasty league.

  21. Bryce Krispie Treats says:
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    Grey — Who is your biggest man crush for 2015? (Pitching & Hitting)

    Im assuming Arenado would be your guy for hitting…

      • Bryce Krispie Treats says:
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        @Grey: Thanks! My pants just got a little tighter…

  22. Justin says:
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    Is there a projected date for War Room Excel download? It’s so close to cheating that it feels like it should be illegal. Wait, that’s what Slammin’ Sammy said with his corked bat … Whatever the case, any idea when I can download some free cheatability?

    • Grey

      Grey says:
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      Early next week

  23. Frank Grimes says:
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    I always dig this post the most
    Sucks there is still two months til the season starts
    How about this year There is a RCL where some
    of us regular folk get a chance to compete with Grey?

    • Grey

      Grey says:
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      Grimey! The hard thing is who gets that privilege and who doesn’t? You know I have favorites, but I can’t make it that obvious…

      • Frank Grimes says:
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        @Grey:
        yea that’s cool but
        there’s a certain fun factor
        like when I kicked tehols ass this year in football
        he owes me something I think haha

        • Grey

          Grey says:
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          Tehol owes us all something, I think

      • JeF With 1 F says:
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        @Grey: Not that hard…anyone that you know anything about their home life is in….like if someone is sleeping in a truck because their wife has a hard time understanding the need for a girlfriend on the side.

        • Grey

          Grey says:
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          Hahaha

    • job3rd says:
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      @Frank Grimes: “…Compete with Grey”?!?!

      Uh, no thanks. I have a better chance with 11 schlubs from my local league!

      • Frank Grimes says:
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        @job3rd:
        schlubs HA!

  24. Johnny says:
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    Nice!

    • Grey

      Grey says:
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      To you, Johnny!

  25. GhostTownSteve says:
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    Ketchup plus hot sauce = salsa. Correct?

    • Wake Up says:
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      @GhostTownSteve: Aren’t we all just vectors on a Mobius strip?

      • GhostTownSteve says:
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        @Wake Up:

        There’s a peculiar thing happening in California. The gods are pouring water down from the heavens. People are cowering in fear. What is this terrible phenomenon?

    • Grey

      Grey says:
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      I’m worried if I say yes then you’re gonna say, SEE?! Emoticon…

      • GhostTownSteve says:
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        @Grey:

        There’s been a strategic shift in the condiment landscape, Albright. Go back 20 years and you’re drafting mustards. Today it’s all about salsa. I’m just saying you don’t have to spend a high pick on salsa when you can platoon ketchup and hot sauce.

        • Grey

          Grey says:
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          Ketchup and hot sauce works as a solid alternative, but you’re not dipping chips into it like a salsa

          • GhostTownSteve says:
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            @Grey:

            I ran a chip to dip ratio analysis on CondimentTrax and…oh nevermind

            • Grey

              Grey says:
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              BACHIPS?

              • Wake Up says:
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                @Grey: Ha!

  26. The JoGarza says:
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    The tier generator let me choose Stroman three times. I hope I can do the same in real drafts.

    • Grey

      Grey says:
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      If you draft Stroman once, don’t draft him again

      • Mordacious Levator says:
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        @Grey: wow, dropping knowledge bombs overa her.

    • SwaggerJackers says:
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      @The JoGarza: LOL me too.

      We’ll all get at least two Stromans this season.

  27. Jason says:
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    Keepers are due Sunday and I’m struggling with my last couple spots. 10-team, H2H, no limit keeper. 4 OF slots, DH slot, and 2 Utility spots. Currently, I’m keeping…
    Rizzo, 1B
    Rendon, 2B/3B
    Arenado, 3B
    Donaldson, 3B
    Gomez, OF
    Harper, OF
    Ortiz, DH
    Kluber, SP
    Zimmerman, SP
    Arrieta, SP

    Other choices I have are CarGo (OF), Kipnis (2B), Cobb (SP), and Carrasco (SP). Would you swap any of these for someone from the list above? Thanks Grey, always a pleasure to read your work!

    • Grey

      Grey says:
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      This Sunday? But it’s Grammy Night on CBS!!! I’d go CarGo over Arrieta

  28. PeteRosesRevnege says:
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    Thank Grey, My league seems to draft pitching early it was a little nerve racking to watch all come off the board, i used you strategy last year it worked pretty well there always seemed to be a good pitcher coming off the DL or dropped by another streamer made it to the finals but did not seal the deal.

    • Grey

      Grey says:
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      No problem

  29. sittininthesnow says:
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    Wow, I think I just won me my first Razzball gold sticker for keeper goodness. In a deep 18-league keeper league, my pitching keeps included:
    Hamels 23
    Cobb 14
    Fiers 6
    Shoemaker 5
    de Grom 4

    I couldn’t even build that with your pairings function.

    Granted I also stashed Shane Greene at $5, but a guy’s gotta live a little right !?!

    Love the site Gray!

    • Grey

      Grey says:
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      Nice! Thanks!

  30. Anthony says:
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    @Grey: ugh…. can someone just make a tier list like previos years ?

    • Grey

      Grey says:
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      It’s on the rankings page

  31. Anthony says:
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    @grey: tier Chart * previous **

  32. GhostTownSteve says:
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    Is it worthwhile to consider the team a pitcher plays for when considering his value? I know wins are impossible to predict. I did run a little dashboard where I looked at pitcher IP/win.

    Fewest innings per win:

    Clayton Kershaw Dodgers
    Doug Fister Nationals
    Bud Norris Orioles
    Adam Wainwright Cardinals
    Wei-Yin Chen Orioles
    Wily Peralta Brewers
    Jered Weaver Angels
    Zack Greinke Dodgers
    Hisashi Iwakuma Mariners
    Madison Bumgarner Giants
    Johnny Cueto Reds
    Max Scherzer Tigers
    Scott Kazmir Athletics
    Garrett Richards Angels
    Corey Kluber Indians
    Yordano Ventura Royals
    Alfredo Simon Reds
    Phil Hughes Twins
    Jorge de la Rosa Rockies

    and most IP per W:

    Kyle Kendrick Phillies
    Brandon McCarthy – – –
    Matt Garza Brewers
    Roberto Hernandez – – –
    Jon Niese Mets
    Tim Hudson Giants
    Clay Buchholz Red Sox
    Hector Noesi – – –
    Travis Wood Cubs
    Eric Stults Padres
    Jose Quintana White Sox
    Scott Feldman Astros
    Cole Hamels Phillies
    Ryan Vogelsong Giants
    Francisco Liriano Pirates
    Yovani Gallardo Brewers
    Wade Miley Diamondbacks
    A.J. Burnett Phillies
    Jake Peavy – – –
    Jeff Samardzija – – –
    Nathan Eovaldi Marlins

    Good teams on top, bad on the bottom. Are we discounting Hamels because the Phillies are putrid? Are we bumping Fister on the Nats? We’re not, right.

    • Grey

      Grey says:
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      Brewers weren’t bad last year, Reds weren’t good… Did we know the O’s would be good last year at this time? Royals? Hamels still faces the NL East a lot… Fister has wins coming to him, but no Ks

      • GhostTownSteve says:
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        @Grey:

        Yes not all teams on the top were the best nor were all teams on the bottom the worst but in general pitchers on better teams did seem to win more. We shouldn’t be surprised by that right

        • Grey

          Grey says:
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          Nah, no surprise…I’m just saying which teams may be the best and worst isn’t always clear right now… The Phils will be bad though, agreed on that

  33. Anthony says:
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    @Grey: Thoughts? h2h 12 man redraft – PS I don’t believe in drafting a closer
    . Edwin Encarnación (Tor – 1B)
    2. Anthony Rendón (Was – 2B,3B)
    3. Nolan Arenado (Col – 3B)
    4. Albert Pujols (LAA – 1B)
    5. Jake Arrieta (ChC – SP)
    6. Yasmani Tomás (Ari – 3B,OF)
    7. Jorge Soler (ChC – OF)
    8. Ryan Zimmerman (Was – 3B,OF)
    9. Tyson Ross (SD – SP)
    10. Evan Gattis (Hou – C)
    11. Carlos Carrasco (Cle – SP,RP)
    12. Jean Segura (Mil – SS)
    13. Lucas Duda (NYM – 1B)
    14. Marcus Stroman (Tor – SP,RP)
    15. Drew Smyly (TB – SP)
    16. Avisail García (CWS – OF)
    17. Melky Cabrera (CWS – OF)
    18. Michael Pineda (NYY – SP)
    19. Carlos Beltrán (NYY – OF)
    20. Danny Salazar (Cle – SP)
    21. Jake Peavy (SF – SP)
    22. Kyle Hendricks (ChC – SP)
    23. Allen Craig (Bos – 1B,OF)

    • Grey

      Grey says:
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      I wouldn’t believe in drafting Allen Craig either… Or a catcher that high… You look light on speed and very solid on pitching, perhaps a tad too solid on SP

  34. MattTruss

    MattTruss says:
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    Ha! Just saw this pop up on twitter, credit to @DFSLinks:

    Google “Punt Fantasy Catchers” and check out the first result under images.

    That’s for you Cram.

    I heart Razzball.

    • Grey

      Grey says:
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      Ha!

    • Grey

      Grey says:
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      Google “Reggie Roby catchers” too

      • MattTruss

        MattTruss says:
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        Haha, that’s fantastic

    • J_FOH says:
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      @MattTruss: HA HA DIX

    • Cram It says:
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      @MattTruss: Fucking catchers.

  35. Big Magoo

    Big Magoo says:
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    I’ve been messing around on the Fangraphs Leaderboards over the past few weeks searching for players who fit various criteria. I don’t even want to admit how much time I’ve wasted doing this. It’s definitely a sickness.

    In a recent search, I was looking to identify pitchers with above average strikeout potential who would be WHIP assets as well. Here’s the criteria I used:

    min. 100 IP
    K% > 20%
    K/BB > 5
    SwStr% > 10%

    Eleven names popped up – Kershaw, Kluber, F-Her, Sale, Zimm, Price, Petit, Strasburg, Tanaka, Bumgarner, and Shoemaker. Pretty solid list.

    Decided to tighten things up by bumping the K% requirement to 25%. That only bumped Zimm and Shoemaker off of the list though.

    Really tightened the screws by increasing the K% to 27% and K/BB ratio to 6. Only two pitchers remained – Kershaw and Petit.

    Just thought I’d share. Found the results pretty interesting.

    • Sky

      Sky says:
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      Relief innings are hard to count for me when evaluating those stats. I am assuming they were counted, correct?

      • Big Magoo

        Big Magoo says:
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        @Sky: Yup, all innings. For Petit that would be 68 as a SP and 49 as a RP.

      • Big Magoo

        Big Magoo says:
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        @Sky: Performed a new search just including innings thrown by SPs.

        Criteria: min. 50 IP (as a SP); K% > 25%; K/BB > 5; SwStr% > 10%

        11 players fit: Kershaw, Jo-Fer, Carrasco, Kluber, F-Her, Sale, Price, Strasburg, Tanaka, Bumgarner, and Petit.

        Tighten the K/BB requirement to 6 and four pitchers remain: Kershaw, Price, Tanaka, and Petit.

        • Sky

          Sky says:
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          Nice, yeah I always try and remove RP numbers. You know and I know they’re two different sets of numbers. Nice find!

          • Big Magoo

            Big Magoo says:
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            @Sky: Removed ’em, and there you go. Thanks!

            • Sky

              Sky says:
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              I will say that I like Petit for real baseball. He’s a great SP6/long relief guy to me. I’m just not a guy who likes deceptive delivery for long term success but I can see where the value lies in him. But I think if he does because a staple in the rotation, the exposure wouldn’t be good for him, in my opinion.

              • Big Magoo

                Big Magoo says:
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                @Sky: I hear ya. I seem to be in the minority on him, which is fine by me. I wouldn’t touch him at Coors or Chase Field. The perils of a flyball pitcher. And I get the argument about reduced effectiveness 2nd and 3rd time through a lineup. But I’ll let the stats speak for themselves.

                • Sky

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                  I see a split on him. It was a bit like Ross last year who didn’t get a huge amount of run as a starter; he was hyped by some and panned by others. I just remember so many deceptive delivery guys having great stretches but rarely consistent success. I’d love to be wrong so I can retweet the hell out of your link, though!

                  • J_FOH says:
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                    @Sky: I like a man who goes against the grain, its easy to agree, but a lot harder to see your own two feet

                  • Big Magoo

                    Big Magoo says:
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                    @Sky: Haha, you’d have to be the one to do that. Magoo don’t tweet.

                    • Sky

                      Sky says:
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                      *Magoote

        • Grey

          Grey says:
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          If you sort by pitchers that throw less than 90 MPH, even less will remain… One will remain is my guess

          • Big Magoo

            Big Magoo says:
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            @Grey: Tanaka with 50% of a UCL in his throwing elbow?

            • Grey

              Grey says:
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              Ah, you got it!

    • J_FOH says:
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      @Big Magoo:
      oh and go watch porn or something

      • Big Magoo

        Big Magoo says:
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        @J_FOH: This is porn to a fantasy nerd like me

    • Grey

      Grey says:
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      Doesn’t sound sick, sounds awesome… I’ve been there… I’m not surprised by Petit… It’s why I wanted to rank him high but was worried about his rotation spot… In that earlier set of names, it’s why Shoemaker ended up ranking higher for me than others…

      • Big Magoo

        Big Magoo says:
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        @Grey: I hear you on Petit. In the late rounds, I’ve found that sometimes it’s a good idea to draft skills over opportunity. Depends on the format. Shoemaker surprised me too, though his K% was more good than great.

        • Grey

          Grey says:
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          Shoemaker’s K to walks is remarkable, it’s really what opened my eyes to him… I think he’s going to easily bump into the top 20 SPs next year

          • Big Magoo

            Big Magoo says:
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            @Grey: Yeah, he’s an interesting player. Doesn’t throw particularly hard or have a wipeout pitch, but several of his pitches graded out pretty well. Kind of like a poor man’s Zimmermann.

            • Grey

              Grey says:
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              I wonder if it’s because no one has a book on him… Seems unlikely, of course

              • GhostTownSteve says:
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                @Grey:

                Great minds Albright. I am very interested in why the spike in his K rate. Above his minor league rate. Nothing in his arsenal says that rate is sustainable. I looked at his game log from last year. He made quite a tour. Only three teams saw him more than once: BOS (2), Oak(2), Tex(3). I think guys with a good change up are particularly deceptive when they first go through the league. I kind of saw it with Tommy Milone where he became less and less effective in the West especially. Interestingly in that 3rd start he only struck out 2 in 6.2. I kind of tend to avoid guys like this.

                • Grey

                  Grey says:
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                  Good stuff, agreed…

  36. J_FOH says:
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    working on the slow draft and getting out of second round, so far with EE and Rendon. Its so slow

    • Grey

      Grey says:
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      Nice so far… Where you looking next? How many teams?

      • J_FOH says:
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        @Grey: 12 team H2H (blah!) Just starting 3rd round , playing with sky and writers from other sites and some other razzball writers. have to write up on every player we draft in a forum.

        • Grey

          Grey says:
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          Nice! Go outfield next…

          • J_FOH says:
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            @Grey: but of course, it gets dicey in 3rd round, I have a chance to move up but then my options are brantley, dickerson, cargo, gangly manbird, ellsbury. the scary part is i could get none of them if i dont make a deal then I have to reach. They all have their upside and risks, if i move up I might end up playing it safe and taking brantly or ellsbury. Not a huge fan of either but with what I have already seem like the most likely pairing.

            This is good, peeps can see the mind of the draft before they have to draft

            • GhostTownSteve says:
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              @J_FOH:

              Take an ace.

              • J_FOH says:
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                @GhostTownSteve: the read on the room is others are chilling back so I’m not worried

              • Sky

                Sky says:
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                I would be ok with this call if it weren’t H2H.

                • GhostTownSteve says:
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                  @Sky:

                  good point. h2h baseball is not really a valid fantasy game.

                  • Sky

                    Sky says:
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                    It was more a point that strategy wise it’s a very different game. I play both and like both for different reasons. H2H reminds me a bit more of real baseball. I can appreciate it for that aspect.

                    • Wake Up says:
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                      @Sky: Totally agree

                • J_FOH says:
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                  @Sky: right!? Its so weird to be in a bastard child of football league

            • Grey

              Grey says:
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              Maybe you’re saying this to throw them off!

              • J-FOH says:
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                @Grey: nah this convo is for our readers. Share draft day thoughts when you start to Co strict roster. Sky is only drafter in here and sky does what sky Does

                • Sky

                  Sky says:
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                  Yeah, Sky don’t care what you do.

                • Grey

                  Grey says:
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                  Yeah throw Sky off the scent too, I got you!

                  • Sky

                    Sky says:
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                    Not working. I still smell hesitation and lack of commitment to a particular player

                    • J-FOH says:
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                      @Sky: I’m not at a computer

                    • Sky

                      Sky says:
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                      I know, it makes it more enjoyable to mock/taunt you.

                    • J-FOH says:
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                      @Sky: I asked if I could tweet my pick. Waiting on response

              • J-FOH says:
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                @Grey: only sky is watching here. I think it’s fun to discuss draft thought as you pair up players. This is more for our readers to enjoy.

                • Grey

                  Grey says:
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                  Yup, wink, wink… I get it!

                  • J-FOH says:
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                    @Grey: you and sky are cut from the same cloth. I was just trying to share with commenters to be nice…and you are not into caring

                    • Grey

                      Grey says:
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                      You got it… Very sly!

                    • Sky

                      Sky says:
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                      Same cloth, he says. I’m cut from chiffon. What about you, Grey?

                    • Grey

                      Grey says:
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                      Velvet

                    • Sky

                      Sky says:
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                      Damn, even in the cloth world we look and feel good.

                    • Grey

                      Grey says:
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                      Touch me, baby! Figuratively, you freak!

                    • Sky

                      Sky says:
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                      I border on nihilism, honestly

                  • J-FOH says:
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                    @Grey: mock me! *raises arm shakes fist *

                    • Grey

                      Grey says:
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                      Hehe

                  • J-FOH says:
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                    @Grey: damn you guys are soft. I’m burlap

                    • Sky

                      Sky says:
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                      scratchy and full of potatoes…makes sense

                    • J-FOH says:
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                      and don’t forget baby seals

                    • Grey

                      Grey says:
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                      You’re secretly terry cloth!

                    • J-FOH says:
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                      like a stolen hotel robe

                    • Grey

                      Grey says:
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                      Ha!

  37. ryan says:
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    Which side would you rather have in a dynasty league? Justin Upton and Evan Longoria or George Springer Alex Gordon and Aramis Ramirez?

    • Grey

      Grey says:
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      Upton

      • ryan says:
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        @Grey: What about upton longoria tenaka or carlos gomez carlos carasco aramis ramirez and alex gordon?

        • Grey

          Grey says:
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          Upton

          • ryan says:
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            @Grey: What would be a good counter? This is the other manager’s team.

            Recycled Goods
            1. (20) Everth Cabrera (SD – SS)
            2. (21) Garin Cecchini (Bos – 3B)
            3. (60) Lonnie Chisenhall (Cle – 1B,3B)
            4. (61) Adrián González (LAD – 1B)
            5. (100) Alex Gordon (KC – LF)
            6. (101) Carlos Gómez (Mil – CF)
            7. (140) Mike Napoli (Bos – 1B)
            8. (141) Derek Norris (SD – C)
            9. (180) Aramis Ramírez (Mil – 3B)
            10. (181) Jean Segura (Mil – SS)
            11. (220) George Springer (Hou – CF,RF)
            12. (221) Ben Zobrist (Oak – 2B,SS,LF,CF,RF)
            13. (260) Madison Bumgarner (SF – SP)
            14. (261) Carlos Carrasco (Cle – SP,RP)
            15. (300) Gerrit Cole (Pit – SP)
            16. (301) Bartolo Colón (NYM – SP)
            17. (340) Patrick Corbin (Ari – SP)
            18. (341) LaTroy Hawkins (Col – RP)
            19. (380) Brandon McCarthy (LAD – SP)
            20. (381) Glen Perkins (Min – RP)
            21. (420) Fernando Rodney (Sea – RP)
            22. (421) Stephen Strasburg (Was – SP)
            23. (460) Robert Stephenson (Cin – SP)
            24. (461) Koji Uehara (Bos – RP)

            • ryan says:
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              @ryan: is springer carrasco and aramis ramirez for longoria and tenaka better?

              • Cram It says:
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                @ryan: What are you trying to do?

              • Grey

                Grey says:
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                Sounds better

            • Grey

              Grey says:
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              Why do you want to get rid of Upton?

              • Mordacious Levator says:
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                @Grey: upton just came off his first consistent season since his near MVP year, and has moved to better offense, in better division for hitters.

  38. GhostTownSteve says:
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    AFLAC!

    Who are the only two qualified starters xFIPed sub 3.50 last year with a K/9 rate below 7.0?

    • Grey

      Grey says:
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      Keuchel’s gotta be one… Then I’m stumped

      • GhostTownSteve says:
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        @Grey:

        Yep. As a hint to the second one I’ll say he’s the best hitting pitcher in baseball.

        • Grey

          Grey says:
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          Carlos Zambrano! Bumgarner is solid, but his Ks are much higher… Rick Ankiel!

          • GhostTownSteve says:
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            @Grey:

            Mike Leake

            • Grey

              Grey says:
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              Ah… Surprised his xFIP was that low and I didn’t even get him in the top 120… The low Ks definitely didn’t help… Interesting cause Cueto on same team is flipped… Always beating his xFIP

              • GhostTownSteve says:
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                @Grey:

                The guys who have ERAs that beat FIP always have high strand rates. That’s probably the biggest debate on FIP is whether pitching with guys on base is a skill. I definitely think there’s merit. It always seemed like that was the reason for Cain always beating FIP. Fister and Cueto 1-2 in strand rate last year. Henderson Alvarez and Tanner Roark also in the top 10.

                • GhostTownSteve says:
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                  @GhostTownSteve:

                  and fwiw, Leake underperformed FIP. 3.7ish ERA.

                  • GhostTownSteve says:
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                    @GhostTownSteve:

                    Interestingly Fister is just a shade above league average strand rate for his career and bounces around from year to year. Cueto, on the other hand is well above league average for his career and has finished above league average just about every season of his career. He’s got the skill, Fister doesn’t.

                    • Grey

                      Grey says:
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                      Agreed

                • Grey

                  Grey says:
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                  Cueto also suppresses BABIP due to weak contact

    • GhostTownSteve says:
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      @GhostTownSteve:

      Not Doug Fister. He had a chasm between his ERA and his FIP. Damn. Be interesting to see what kind of season he puts up. Super lucky with his wins, with his ERA (or the numbers would suggest). Things look prime for him to be awful.

      • Grey

        Grey says:
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        That’s why I dumped him in my rankings

  39. dem ribbies says:
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    $200 – 10 team – H2H (w/ OPS/QS instead of AVG/W)
    Salaries are +10% year over year keep until you can’t afford.

    Have to declare keepers next week and trying to make a move or two pre-draft.

    Keepers now are:
    1 – Goldschmidt $29
    2 – Dozier $4
    3 – Chris Davis $6
    O – Stanton $35
    O – Brantley $3
    O – Soler $3
    O – Myers $3
    DH- Frazier $3

    SP- Ross $3
    SP- Wood $3

    Question is, would you deal Stanton $35 for Rendon $4 and Dickerson $7. Based on your auction values adjusted for $200 budget, Stanton is $33, Rendon $25 and Dickerson $21 so the value is there, especially long term as Stanton’s keeper price will probably exceed his draft price next season.

    Just wondering if based on the lineup I can afford to lose Stanton in your opinion? Kind of hard to send him packing…

    • Grey

      Grey says:
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      That trade makes sense

      • dem ribbies says:
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        @Grey:

        Counter is my Stanton $35 for his Altuve$13 and Dickerson $7.

        Not as attractive as Rendon $4 and Dickerson $7.

        I could use the speed but have Dozier who might flirt with 20 again. Not sure the upgrade from Dozier to Altuve is worth the downgrade from Stanton to Dickerson, even if it saves $15 of $200.

        What do you think? fair deal or hold?

        • Grey

          Grey says:
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          Not as good

        • Grey

          Grey says:
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          Hold

          • dem ribbies says:
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            @Grey: Will do. Sent the Rendon/Dickerson offer back as my floor. We’ll see. Not gonna be upset to roll w/ Giancarlo this year if that’s the way it goes, lol. Thanks!

            • Grey

              Grey says:
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              No problem

              • dem ribbies says:
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                @Grey: Ok, this has gotten crazy.

                Stanton $35 for his Altuve $13 and Kluber $2.

                He’s up in the do not draft tier, but for two dollas?

                • Grey

                  Grey says:
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                  Sounds solid

  40. Joey Jo Jo Jr Shabadoo says:
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    ok guy may or may not any longer go for arrieta and segura for my reyes (which was his idea), and he refused my
    1. reyes/j.smith for boxberger/arrieta/segura (he likes boxberger as much as anyone around here)
    , but he might do one of these, and these could be even better than the original reyes for arrieta/segura
    2. alcantara/reyes/carmart for eaton/segura/arrieta/degrom
    or
    3. reyes/carmart/ for segura/arrieta/degrom.

    I’m guessing the best thing here is #3, followed by the original reyes for segura/arrieta?

    • Grey

      Grey says:
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      3

      • Joey Jo Jo Jr Shabadoo says:
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        @Grey: opp here seems to agree with carmart’s high prospect stock, while not agreeing with degrom’s uptick, which i directly benefit from. and it’s pretty obv at reyes age he clearly doesn’t believe too much in arrieta’s uptick last year either (as that deal was his idea).

        • Grey

          Grey says:
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          Nice

          • Joey Jo Jo Jr Shabadoo says:
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            @Grey: this owner backed off #3, saying he doesn’t remember sending it (during the exact same day he sent it), claiming he had just woken up. Being teased is shit. We went back and did his original offer of Reyes for Segura/Arrieta.

            • Grey

              Grey says:
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              Sounds good!

  41. Carnac says:
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    Are the $ values on the top 400 YOUR values? If so, did you base them on, say, 12 team/5 OF league?

    • Grey

      Grey says:
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      Mine, 12 team, 5 OF

      • Carnac says:
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        Cougs, “Grey this box of chocolates is really cheap and not a good Valentine’s Day present.”

        Grey *shrugs*, “You’re not considering league size.”

        • Grey

          Grey says:
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          Haha

        • Grey

          Grey says:
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          I thought this was gonna be a call back to Sky’s doodie chocolates

          • Sky

            Sky says:
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            They ain’t mine!

  42. JoeyLomax says:
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    Grey – Maybe I’ve missed his name somewhere, but Kyle Lohse isn’t listed in any of your rankings for SP…just curious, as last year he was a great value.
    Thanks

    • GhostTownSteve says:
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      @JoeyLomax:

      Low K rate. 37 years old. Not a great home park. Showed some diminished peripherals last year. I like the guy ok. He knows how to pitch. Not a lot to recommend him for fantasy. A decidedly un-Razzballian pitcher.

      • JoeyLomax says:
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        @GhostTownSteve: Makes total sense to me. I just look at him and what he’s done over the past few years (well into his 30s), low k-rate and all, and it’s hard for me to take a guy like Peavy over him. But, that said, his declining numbers do tell a story. Thanks for the reply.

        • GhostTownSteve says:
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          @JoeyLomax:

          I might take him over Peavy. I like Jake but he seems out of gas.

    • Grey

      Grey says:
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      Not a fan

  43. I just did a draft and used Grey’s Rankings and killed it!

    Lester-Arrietta-Slurp slurp-Carrasco-Cole-Paxton-Fireman-Cain-Salazar-peralta etc along with trout Harper Arredondo Donaldson Davis Tomas Gyerko peralta soler

    Thanks Grey

    • Grey

      Grey says:
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      Nice!

  44. Dave F says:
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    Grey,

    2 questions.

    First the league I’m in counts wins, IPs, and Quality Starts. However, there’s a 60 move limit for the year. The general winning strategy is to keep 8 SPs on the roster and avoid streaming heavily due to the roster move limit. What would be your recommended ideal breakdown for tiers if you were looking to draft 8 SPs?

    Second, I get to keep 6 guys in said league, and through good fortune, I have 7 hitters in your top 30 and Felix. Would you recommend that I drop Felix since SP is so deep?

    • Grey

      Grey says:
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      Nope I’d keep Felix there… And I’d load up on the first four tiers… Taking at least five SPs from them…

      • Dave F says:
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        @Grey:

        In that case, I can only keep 5 of 7. Goldy/Edwin/Adam Jones are no brainers. Then I Altuve, Brantley, Arenado, Pence. Which two of those 4 would you keep?

        • Grey

          Grey says:
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          Brantley, Arenado

  45. Tbwalsh says:
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    Most valuable post for the draft! Thanks Grey! Daiquiri time!

    • Grey

      Grey says:
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      Thanks!

  46. J-FOH says:
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    So if I get what Oaktown is saying then guys with consistently high strand rates prefer to pitch from the stretch

    • Grey

      Grey says:
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      I don’t know of much can be read into strand rates other than they’re lucky…

      • J-FOH says:
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        @Grey: I remember years ago before I ever played fantasy reading about how some guys are just more effective out of the stretch, I kinda get that but its unmeasurable and really useless for our purposes

        • Wake Up says:
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          @J-FOH: Not speaking for him…but I would say it’s more that some SPs are just not that great from the stretch…lose velocity and/or movement…and some don’t…

          • GhostTownSteve says:
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            @Wake Up:

            Yes I agree with that. The skill is not pitching better necessarily but it’s not pitching as much worse than their peers that allows them to beat averages.

            • Wake Up says:
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              @GhostTownSteve: Exactly, less worse than the average peer…that was written right under my varsity chevron…

              • J_FOH says:
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                @Wake Up: you had a chevron?

                • Wake Up says:
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                  @J_FOH: a 69 convertible…

                  • J-FOH says:
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                    @Wake Up: that’s a chevelle, unless it was a 79 chevette, then that would be hilarious

                    • Wake Up says:
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                      @J-FOH: You got me…I’m not a car guy

                  • J-FOH says:
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                    @Wake Up: hahaha, I used to build engines

        • Grey

          Grey says:
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          It can be measured but the rest you said, yeah, more or less

    • GhostTownSteve says:
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      @J-FOH:
      So I slightly misspoke. Strand Rate (LOB%) is not part of the FIP calculation itself. There is math out there that suggests that LOB% is luck and that pitchers cannot possess a skill which allows them to consistently pitch above league average with runners on base. That given enough sample, all pitchers will “regress” to the league average strand rate (about 71%). So when we look at gaps between FIP and ERA and we use those to predict the next year then we look at Strand Rate. If you believe that LOB% is luck and a player had a very high rate, then you assume a guy with a gap between ERA and FIP will have an ERA the following season that’s closer to their FIP. But if you believe that a guy like Cueto or Matt Cain have a skill that allows them to pitch better than league average with runners on then you might not want to assume that the ERA will regress towards the FIP.

      • GhostTownSteve says:
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        @GhostTownSteve:

        My own opinion is that it is mostly luck but that there exist a small number of outliers who do in fact possess this skill, like Cueto, which they demonstrate by beating league average strand rates year after year. But they are rare and in general, unless you have very good reason to believe a pitcher is one of those outliers, you should assume below or above average LOB% in a year will normalize the next and that a pitcher will in fact pitch closer to their FIP.

      • Wake Up says:
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        @GhostTownSteve: Oh, and there he is…

      • J-FOH says:
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        @GhostTownSteve: ah ha. Yeah I was trying to wrap my head around it and was shooting from the peanut gallery

  47. Jon says:
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    I’m trying to trade Frazier since I already have Goldschmidt, Donaldson, and Arenado as keepers. If I can’t get good value, I’ll keep em all and figure it out later. Best offer I’ve gotten so far is Quintana+a pick (which would end up being a player ranked between 100 and 150). Close? Not close? What would you want for Frazier?

    • Grey

      Grey says:
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      Not close… More than that

      • Wake Up says:
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        @Grey: JZy? Arrietish?

        • Grey

          Grey says:
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          Are those pastries? They sound delicious!

          • Wake Up says:
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            @Grey: Wonderful confectionery concoctions made in NZ…but you have to eat them upside down…

            • Grey

              Grey says:
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              Figures! Those confusing Kiwis

  48. Wake Up says:
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    Interesting right after you mention the comp he gets cut and now guess who is looking…your Reds…

    • Grey

      Grey says:
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      Go Reds!

  49. Cram It says:
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    In a Yahoo mock auction now. The avg $ of what they’re going for is really inflated from every other ranking site. You think that levels out as more drafts are done? Otherwise, any guidelines might prove useless.

    • Grey

      Grey says:
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      Yeah for sure

      • Cram It says:
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        @Grey: Word

    • Cram It says:
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      @Cram It: Or maybe, like you said, that’s why you stay away from the studs. Let others pay 25% more for them while you snatch up the next tier guys for what they’re worth.

  50. Micel Peron says:
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    Any help appreciated…

    Need 5 keepers, 2 batters 2 pitchers and 1 of either in round drafted

    Price – 5
    Tanaka – 6
    Rizzo – 9
    Tehran – 10
    Gray – 11
    Cashner – 12
    Arenado – 13
    Cruz – 14
    Alex Wood – 16
    Baez – 21
    Springer – 22

    • Grey

      Grey says:
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      Springer, Teheran, wood, Arenado, Rizzo

  51. The Shape says:
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    5×5 keeper league 260 draft, 3 yr contracts can be extended starting in yr 3 for 5 addl salary per yr of extension. Staff currently is:
    Cobb – 4/4 $10
    Harvey – 2/3 $14
    S Gray – 3/3 $5
    A Cashner – 2/3 $6
    C Mchugh – 2/3 $5
    J Gray – 2/3 $1
    D Bundy – 2/3 $1

    Should I extend Sonny a yr, making him a 3/4 $10? I have $130 to fill two hitting positions in draft, so I could splurge predraft for a big $ stud like F Her 3/3 $63. Is my staff good enough? Hitters are:
    C- santana 2/3 $16
    1b-open
    2b- kipnis 4/5 $11
    ss – a russell 2/3 $1
    3b – rendon 2/3 $3
    Mi – wong 2/3 $5
    Ci – panda 2/3 $10
    Of – harper 5/5 $11
    Of c gomez 4/5 $15
    Of – crisp 3/3 $1
    Of – b hamilton 3/4 $6
    Of – pederson 2/3 $5
    U – k bryant 2/3 $1
    Bench – open
    Bench – b buxton 2/3 $1

    I can probably land j bats and stanton in draft. Will my staff keep up with my bats?

    • Grey

      Grey says:
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      No idea how many teams

      • The Shape says:
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        @Grey: @Grey: 13, sorry!

    • Grey

      Grey says:
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      Your staff looks fine now, will look excellent if you get F-Her… I wouldn’t extend Sonny… Make sure you get the best 1B you can get

      • The Shape says:
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        @Grey: @Grey: Agreed in principal to a post draft deal:

        rendon, bryant, buxton, cashner, j gray for high dollar last contract year Miggy, starlin, yu darv, wainwright, paplebon. Thoughts on that trade? No other enhasncement of staff needed then right?

        waino, yu, harvey, cobb, sonny, bench: mchugh, bundy (trade bait)

        • Grey

          Grey says:
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          You can see my thoughts on all starters in my rankings… Obviously I don’t like those guys…

  52. goodfold2 says:
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    deep 30 man dynasty with OPS/holds 6X6,and 100 mil budgets. After 1st week of bidding (out of 3, each week has a near equal level of players at every position, arbitrary which guys are in which week), i have 4.941 million left (so i spent 5 in first week). Two problems, any contract over 1 million you have to pay half if you cut them, and i seemed to assume any the cost of certain RP was higher than it would’ve been. I got these
    1. CI -Smoak 1.347 mil per for 2 years (in case he goes off the 2nd year), and actual CI starters cost at least 3.82 mil. These: i.davis (7 mil per for 4 years!)/valbuena (3.82)/butler (6 mil)/ amarista (4.6), however, callaspo got no bids, and is currently listed as starter. I might have to try to pick him up (clearly with under 1 mil though, we’ll have a last gasp cleanup period in March for remaining players). Turner even went for 1.7 million, and i almost had to go as high as i did on Smoak, next highest bid was 1 mil
    2. OF – i got none, with lagares (4 mil)/stubbs (4.1)/fowler (5.7)/colby (5)/ ethier (4)/ gomes (3.8)/ gose (4.5), lough (in minors even got 1.25)
    3. SP – i got c.anderson at 1.584, knowing full well i wouldn’t get nor try to get any actual starter, some others bid 2 mil and 4 mil, but they got somebody in their tiers they liked better. I did have to beat a 1 mil bid. With Hale going to bullpen i lost a starter,down to 4 before anderson. delgado went for 3 million.
    4. RP – this is were i likely overpaid, i basically ranked these guys by 2 things, their current mlbdepthcharts.com role projection and their skill (BPV) score from Baseball Forecaster. I got
    Atchison (1.27) and De Fratus (1.24), while lesser guys Edgin (.682)/ w.wright (.656) and i really probably F’ed up with letting Affeldt go for 1 mil. (i had my guys ranked higher, due to skill stats, but right now Affeldt’s role is better). Actually useful RP(i.e. could get saves at some point) cost like so: brothers (4)/qualls (5.1)/ the wade (10 mil!)/ a.miller (6.13). I barely lost Thayer (1.5), and i would’ve taken him over 1 of the guys who i got.
    Now i’m in a spot where i might be able to get somewhat more useful guys for cheaper than these 2 i got, even while eating .6 mil if/when i cut one of their contracts. Only step left is to rank the guys i would try to bid a lesser amount to win (around .4-.6 ish) while getting 2 backup OF and at least another backup CI with starter upside. I’ll ask this part later, as my battery/time is running low in my present state.

    • Grey

      Grey says:
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      Lose RPs

      • goodfold2 says:
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        @Grey: is this about the rank for these guys for saves opps/holds/ratios/wins:
        farquar/salas/dunn/al al/hunter/thornton/abad/atchison/belisle/warren/leone/duke/matusz/tonkin/furbush/rzepczynski/diekman/de fratus/bastardo/stauffer. i’ll clearly ask Smokey as well.

        • goodfold2 says:
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          @goodfold2: petricka in there between warren and leone, as he’s currently a 7th inning guy, even though his skills are low.

        • Grey

          Grey says:
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          Looks about right

          • goodfold2 says:
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            @Grey: thanks, now i know to drop de fratus first for any of the guys above him, or really even some below if they can be had .8 mil cheaper at minimum.

            • Grey

              Grey says:
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              Yup

    • Kid A says:
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      @goodfold2: Ask what part later? There isn’t a single question in this avalanche. It’s a new year goodfold4000: evolve.

  53. PeteRosesRevenge says:
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    Greay we have 10 team H2h Draft usually the pitcher go early but what if I am drafting 8 9 or 10 and everyone is following the Razzball strategy ( I made the mistake of sharing your site with them) anyway if Kershaw falls to one of the last first round spots in a snake draf would you take him?

    • Grey

      Grey says:
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      No

  54. Bye Felicia says:
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    1. Giancarlo Stanton (Mia – OF) 
    2. Albert Pujols (LAA – 1B) 
    3. Josh Donaldson (Tor – 3B) 
    4. Johnny Cueto (Cin – SP) 
    5. David Ortiz (Bos – 1B) 
    6. Tyson Ross (SD – SP) 
    7. Carlos Santana (Cle – C,1B,3B) 
    8. Yasmani Tomás (Ari – 3B,OF) 
    9. Kris Bryant (ChC – 3B) 
    10. Neil Walker (Pit – 2B) 
    11. Grégory Polanco (Pit – OF) 
    12. Jean Segura (Mil – SS) 
    13. Huston Street (LAA – RP) 
    14. Matt Shoemaker (LAA – SP,RP) 
    15. James Paxton (Sea – SP) 
    16. Wil Myers (SD – OF) 
    17. Rusney Castillo (Bos – OF) 
    18. Danny Salazar (Cle – SP) 
    19. Wade Davis (KC – RP) 
    20. Joe Nathan (Det – RP) 
    21. Joc Pederson (LAD – OF) 
    22. Arismendy Alcántara (ChC – 2B,OF) 
    23. Derek Holland (Tex – SP) 

    12 team standard Yahoo roto
    Critique my team razzballers!
    I missed 2 picks 5 & 6 were autodraft. I lost connection

    • Grey

      Grey says:
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      I don’t mind drafting Bryant, but not if I have only drafted cornermen before him…. Obviously, your outfield looks very risky because you invested only in cornemen…

      • Bye Felicia says:
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        @Grey: yeah I missed the picks so at that point i just took him hoping he plays asks can move someone. I didn’t plan on taking Santana or Ortiz. I wanted an OF with the Papi pick

  55. Red Barons says:
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    Early draft: looking for some feedback.
    Y! 12-team 5×5 roto

    C: Ramos
    1B: Hosmer
    2B: Kipnis
    3B: Arenado
    SS: Desmond
    OF: Giancarlo / J Upton / Myers
    UTIL: Longoria / Yasmani
    Bench: Castillo / Avisail / Segura / Castellanos / Vargas
    SP: Samardzija / Ross / G. Cole / Wheeler / Fiers / McHugh
    (RP slots) SP: Carrasco / Shoemaker

    I know I’m a little low on SB and have no relievers, but I punted closers last season and still got fourth in that category just from guessing who would take over soon. LaTroy is still available post-draft, should I pick him up just to have Saves until I can grab a couple others in May?

    What players are expendable?

    Other concerns?
    Thanks!

    • Red Barons says:
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      @Red Barons: Boxberger is still available as well…

    • Grey

      Grey says:
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      Your team looks excellent, very balanced on hitting and pitching except SAGNOF, but you know how I feel about that

  56. Alan says:
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    I was offered Domingo Santana, Jesse Hahn and Wily peralta in dynasty for my Ryu. I dont think I should do this trade, do you? Not competing this year

    Thanks

    • Grey

      Grey says:
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      I’d do it

  57. J-FOH says:
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    You know baseball is in the air when you see Kid A coming by and doing a drive by comment. He’s sooooo Oakland

    • Grey

      Grey says:
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      Ha!

      • J-FOH says:
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        @Grey: a little Mac Dre or E-40 goes thru my head when I see that.

        • Grey

          Grey says:
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          That reminds me of Prezzi…

          • J-FOH says:
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            @Grey: I wanted to say his name but he even went MIA on Twitter

            • Grey

              Grey says:
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              Hope he’s okay

              • J-FOH says:
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                @Grey: yeah me too, don’t need another shot in the back/pulling out my own cathetor story again *shudders*

                • Grey

                  Grey says:
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                  Oh, please, never again

  58. Jon says:
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    Cole, Carrasco and Bogaerts a good return for Tulo in a keep-18, keep forever?

    I wouldn’t be able to keep Shoemaker, but I think that’s a fair trade-off for Cole/Carrasco, and I can take pitching closer to Shoe’s value in the draft.

    Thoughts?

    • Grey

      Grey says:
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      Sounds fair

  59. Dan says:
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    Hey Almighty Grey!

    DYNASTY league 10 teams H2H

    If you had to package 3 of the following 4 guys for Brantley, which would you choose?

    Joey Gallo, Corey Seager, Xander, Joc Pederson

    Here be my keepers:

    Brantley
    Cano
    Donaldson
    C Gonzalez
    Lucroy
    Rios
    Gardner
    Gattis
    King Felix
    Mat Latos
    Hughes
    James shieldsshields
    Tillman
    Chapman
    D Robertson

    Thanks bud!!

    • Grey

      Grey says:
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      Gallo, Seager, Pederson

  60. Mantis Toboggan MD says:
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    for dynasty purposes keep which one of d.holland/kazmir/garza? OBPA/homers allowed/QS starts league.

    • Grey

      Grey says:
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      Holland

  61. J-FOH says:
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    slow draft now at round 6…its day 3

    • Grey

      Grey says:
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      Look at you, mixing up the avatar

      • J-FOH says:
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        @Grey: playing with a few got to keep it fresh

      • J-FOH says:
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        @Grey: after 6 Im chilling with EE, Rendon, Brantley, Frazier, Cespedes, and Zimmerman. Had to take Zimm where I did, these guys went Ace crazy

        • Grey

          Grey says:
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          Fir a second, I thought you meant Ryan Zimmerman… Glad to hear it’s Zimmermann… Team sounds solid… Couldn’t have went that ace crazy if you got Zimm….

          • J-FOH says:
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            @Grey:

            Zimm was 12th starting pitcher off the board at pick 64
            11 others drafted by end of 5th round
            9 drafted by end of 4th round
            1 closer taken.

            Its H2H FAAB Bi Weekly bids and daily lineup changes…

            Best deal so far for me was Cespedes with the 57th pick

            • Grey

              Grey says:
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              Sounds like people weren’t drafting SPs at all then

              • J-FOH says:
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                @Grey: I don’t know where you are going with this

                • Grey

                  Grey says:
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                  You could’ve waited longer on SPs

                  • J-FOH says:
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                    @Grey: maybe, but you know I do my own thing… I also traded away my 9th round pick and my read on the room told me to get one out of the way now.

                    • Grey

                      Grey says:
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                      I hear ya

  62. Bugs Hoobs says:
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    Two quickies for you about my 12 team weekly 5×5:

    A) In the past, you have suggested using Bench slot for pitchers exclusively. Given that we start 11 bats (an extra OF and 2U) and only 7 P, would you one of your 3 BN for a bat?

    B) How many RPs would you draft?

    C) …

    D) Thanks for everything!

    • Grey

      Grey says:
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      A) Sure B) 2 D) No problem

  63. Wilson says:
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    Hi Grey , thanks for your articles.

    The pitching strategy is based on 12 teams & 5×5, my questions are..

    A) If it’s a shallow league, 10 teams & 5×5.
    Which tier should I start to draft?

    B) If it’s a very shallow league, 8 teams & 5×5.
    Should I draft a top pitcher? (They all have aces, so it seems safer to own top pitcher for me.)

    C) Grey says no C

    D) How many RP should we draft in 10-team league? Or 8-team league? (9 pitchers total)

    • Grey

      Grey says:
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      A) Same diff as 12 teams B) Sure D) 3, 3

      • Wilson says:
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        @Grey: thanks.

        For question B, in a very shallow 8-team league, will you choose top tier pitchers (Kershaw or Felix etc) or second tier hitters (Rizzo, Randon, J Upton, Etc) first?

        • Grey

          Grey says:
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          Hitters

  64. Mark says:
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    So call me a nutsoid, but I plan on choosing three pitchers for my keepers in a 5×5 Weekly H2H ESPN league. The auction budget is $260, and I want to keep Iwakuma ($6), Wood (5), and Arrieta (5).

    I always hear the advice to NEVER keep pitchers, as they have a higher chance of becoming metaphorically soiled, horrific diapers before the season ends. But I frickin love this batch of guys. I could also substitute any of them for Fiers ($5).

    What do you think? Is this a dullard move given my other alternatives? My other keepers could be Springer ($5), Dee Gordon (5), Billy Ham-Ham (11), Mookie Betts-off (5), or Calhoun (5).

    • Grey

      Grey says:
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      I’d go Springer, Gordon, Betts

  65. Scooterboy says:
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    Grey, I play in an 8 team H2H 5×5 league. We are having a meeting next week, and they are considering going to a keeper league with this years draft. My questions are, do I draft any differently if they decide to go to a keeper league? I’ve always relied on your rankings as is, and have won the league the last two years. My other question is, if Trout/Stanton/Abreu are gone, who would you go with next, if it’s a keeper league, or should I just stick to the rankings as is. I really enjoy all the posts and comments. You and the other posters are extremely helpful. It’s the best fantasy site out there in my opinion.

    • Grey

      Grey says:
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      Thanks for the kind words! Go with my rankings, you’ll be fine…

  66. the swinging says:
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    I like carlos gonzalez. Based in carlos gonzalez espn/yahoo/rotowire adp in the 40s u gona end up with him on all ur teams no, Grey? You have him 25 ish overall I think. Which I think is right. So does he end up on all your teams?

    • Grey

      Grey says:
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      Yeah, I think I could end up drafting him in a bunch of places

      • the swinging says:
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        @Grey: but u go dickerson over cargo?

        • Grey

          Grey says:
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          Yes

  67. J-FOH says:
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    I got Wong!

    and now my team name can be Oops! Wong Hole

    • Grey

      Grey says:
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      Wow, how late?

      • J-FOH says:
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        @Grey: 4th pick of 8th round *touches nipple*

        • Grey

          Grey says:
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          Sweet! (Not the nipple touching)

          • J-FOH says:
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            @Grey: not even a little?

            • Grey

              Grey says:
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              Maybe a little

              • J-FOH says:
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                @Grey: today sky went arrieta at 8.06 then carrasco at 9.07 for his first two arms…I hate him a little right now

                • Grey

                  Grey says:
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                  Yeah, you took Zimmermann too early

                  • J-FOH says:
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                    @Grey: bad room read on my part, didn’t see that many catchers and closers go as high as they did but looking at who went after I think I went safe with him. Maybe taking Bruce there but I like my safe pick.

  68. SteveNZ says:
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    I just signed up for the ol’ H2H league. Why do I do this to myself?

    • J-FOH says:
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      @SteveNZ: I hate myself too

    • Grey

      Grey says:
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      You can’t quit it

      • SteveNZ says:
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        @Grey: A founding member and it’s been going since ’03 – would be a bit lame to drop out.

        • Grey

          Grey says:
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          You owe it to those that came before and after… You are a survivor!

  69. Alan says:
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    You okay to trade abreu and lynn for donaldson and storen in dynasty?

  70. Clint says:
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    So, with an average league, be it h2h or roto, consisting of 2 SP’s, 2 RP’s, and 4 P’s, what is your “staff” you target going into a draft, Grey? 6 SP’s, a pair of closers, and one bench middle reliever? Last year I ran out of innings in my roto league and wound up losing it in the final weeks after leading most of the year with I believe 6 starters I leaned on most of the year. Do you draft 6 SP’s, use 3 as your core, and then pick & choose starts from the rest to keep your innings in check or how do you avoid that limit heading into drafts?

  71. Mark says:
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    How would you adjust your Garrett Richards ranking if he looks good and healthy to start the season? How do you like him compared to deGrom for this year as well as keeper rankings?

  72. Razzballer says:
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    How come these players are skipped in the pairings:
    Yu Darvish (Tex-SP)
    Masahiro Tanaka (NYY-SP)
    Adam Wainwright (StL-SP)
    Matt Harvey (NYM-SP)

    Rick Porcello (Bos-SP)
    Homer Bailey (Cin-SP)
    Jason Hammel (ChC-SP)
    Chris Tillman (Bal-SP)
    Anibal Sanchez (Det-SP)
    Wei-Yin Chen (BAL-SP)

    • Grey

      Grey says:
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      Because if you read my rankings, I don’t want to draft them

  73. Hurricane Harv says:
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    First off, I would like to say what a wealth of information this website is…Im a lifetime razz ball fan now! The reason I was looking for this kind of website, is I inherited a baseball team 2 years ago that the guy gave up. I did add dickerson and abreu last year through the draft. We have a 10 team H2H league. I can keep up to 15 players. The reason I am seeking a little advice, is that I’ve been offered some trades involving draft picks. I have Joe Mauer and Carlos Santana, which both are non Catcher eligible now. Any help is appreciated, Thanks!
    C- Open
    1B- Napoli
    2b- Open
    SS- J. Reyes
    3B-Beltre
    2B/SS-Hardy
    1B/3B- Carlos Santana
    OF- Denard Span
    Corey Dickerson
    Adam Jones
    Joc Pederson
    Angel Pagan
    Alex Rios
    Carlos Gonzalez
    U- Jose Abreu
    Jimmy Rollins
    Jordy Mercer
    Joe Mauer

    Pitchers:
    Sale
    Zimmerman
    Fister
    Shields
    Lester
    A. Wood
    A. Cobb
    Wily Peralta
    Huston Street
    Joaqim Benoit

  74. Dave F says:
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    Grey,

    I’m in a 10 team keeper league (keep 6). My keepers are Goldy, Adam Jones, Edwin, Arenado, Brantley, Altuve.

    Hitting cats are pretty standard, but pitching cats are IP, ERA, Ks, WHIP, BB/9, K/9, and Combined holds/saves.

    There is a 5 move/week limit, a 60 move/year limit, and a 30 inning weekly minimum. Because of this, I believe that I need to carry 8 SP.

    With all of the keepers, and the categories listed, what would be a good breakdown for tiers I should target for my 8 starters instead of 6?

    • Grey

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      I’d draft the six as I say then I’d add another top 12 SP and another flyer in the last tier… That’s where I’d take the extra two from…

      • Dave F says:
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        @Grey:

        Well crap, does that mean I should keep Felix over one of my other keepers?

    • Grey

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      Yup, over Altuve

      • Dave F says:
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        @Grey:

        Makes sense. When you say grab an extra SP from the last tier, you mean the Sexy Sexy Sexy tier (Cingrani)….not the last tier you list of lottery tickets right?

        • Grey

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          Yeah, Cingrani tier

  75. Dave F says:
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    Well crap. Does that mean I should keep Felix over one of my other players?

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