The other day we went over the top 20 third basemen for 2012 fantasy baseball for our 2012 fantasy baseball rankings.  Today, we turn our bejeweled eyeglasses to the top 20 outfielders for 2012 fantasy baseball.  The top twenty outfielders will need to go to a top 40 then a top 60 then a top 80.  Unfortunately, outfield is pretty shallow.  Guess outfielders come in waves… much like sperm whales.  Oofa!  For five outfielder leagues, this really blows, which is only a positive if you’re a sperm whale.  Zadow!  As always, these top 20 outfielders are broken up into tiers with my projections.  Anyway, here’s the top 20 outfielders for 2012 fantasy baseball:

1. Ryan Braun – Went over his projections in the top 10 for 2012 fantasy baseball.

2. Jose Bautista – Went over his projections in the top 10 for 2012 fantasy baseball.

3. Matt Kemp – Went over his projections in the top 10 for 2012 fantasy baseball.

4. Justin Upton – Went over his projections in the top 10 for 2012 fantasy baseball.

5. Jacoby Ellsbury – Went over his projections in the top 20 for 2012 fantasy baseball.

6. Carlos Gonzalez – Went over his projections in the top 20 for 2012 fantasy baseball.

7. Andrew McCutchen – Went over his projections in the top 20 for 2012 fantasy baseball.  This is a new tier.  This tier goes from here until Pence.  I call this tier, “These players.  ‘What Grey wants in every league, Alex?'”  The outfield isn’t quite as deep as it should be considering there’s three of these suckers playing at any given moment on all teams and the Reds have four.

8. Mike Stanton – Went over his projections in the top 20 for 2012 fantasy baseball.

9. Jay Bruce – What we got from Bruce last year may not have been totally Boss, but a guy that can give you a 30+ homer and 8+ steal season is valuable nowadays.  If Bruce manages to pull a rabbit out of his hat, he could improve in all five categories and there will be a magician somewhere wondering why Jay Bruce has his rabbit.  2012 Projections:  90/34/100/.270/10

10. Josh Hamilton – I think the market has finally figured out Hamilton.  No longer is everyone expecting a MVP season every time out.  People have realized he’s Mr. Glass.  When healthy, Hamilton hits homers and a solid average, runs and RBIs.  When he’s not healthy, you plug in someone else.  In 12 team mixed leagues, it’s much easier to do that than in deep AL-Only ones so keep that in mind when drafting.  (In AL-Only leagues or any leagues with less waiver wire options, I’d move Hamilton down to the next tier.)  2012 Projections:  75/27/85/.295/7

12. Nelson Cruz – Take the above and just “find” Hamilton and “replace” with Cruz.  I think the market has finally figured out Cruz.  No longer is everyone–Well, you can do it on your own.  2012 Projections:  70/30/85/.260/10

12. Hunter Pence – He’s a square peg in this round tier.  Everyone else in this tier has crazy upside and some potential pitfalls.  Pence is steady as she goes, Raconteurs.  Last year he hit a few less homers, but I could see him actually hitting a few more homers this year because he won’t be playing under the tyranny of the recently-exiled Ed Wade’s Toupee.  (Was actually surprised Astros fans weren’t more excited about the disposal of the Toupee, but, then again, I don’t think there are Astros fans.)  2012 Projections:  95/25/100/.280/10

13. Curtis Granderson – This is a new tier.  This tier goes from here until Victorino.  I call this tier, “How is this tier different than all other tiers?  This tier I’m going to pass over.”  Went over his projections in the top 20 for 2012 fantasy baseball.

14. Matt Holliday – I’m done with Holliday until next year or the year after when he falls into the tier of outfielders with guys like Vernon Wells.  He’s still too coveted for what he used to do rather than what he’s about to do.  Oh, and please don’t ask in the comments if this means I would never draft Holliday.  I would take Pence, Cruz and Bruce before him and I’ve seen Holliday taken before them, so how am I drafting Holliday?  I’m not taking four outfielders in the course of one pick, i.e., I’m not drafting Holliday before others so I’m not getting him.  Sorry to longtime readers who had to read that, but I feel like I always get these questions around the time of rankings.  2012 Projections:  85/24/90/.305/5

15. Lance Berkman –  Went over Berkman’s projections at the top 20 1st basemen for 2012 fantasy baseball post.

16. Shane Victorino – We had a good run.  Victorino and I.  It’s come to an end.  Howard’s banged up, Utley’s a nail clipping incident away from the 15-day DL and Rollins has more miles on him than your Chrysler LeBaron.  Victorino’s runs and RBIs will be affected.  His speed is affected by his age, and he’s not a big power threat.  If he falls far enough I could see maybe taking him, but it’s time to bid him aloha.  The goodbye version of aloha, that is.  2012 Projections:  85/15/55/.275/20

17. Michael Morse – This is a new tier.  This tier goes from here into the top 40 outfielders for 2012 fantasy baseball.  I call this tier, “I’ll happily reach for one of these guys if I have to, in the non-sexual way.  Though it’s kinda sad this is the third tier of outfielders that I’m excited about.  Times is tough, yo.”  Went over Morse’s projections at the top 20 1st basemen for 2012 fantasy baseball post.

18. Desmond Jennings – I already went over my Desmond Jennings 2012 fantasy.  While I wrote it, a leprechaun with a broken GPS looking for a rainbow appeared out my window.  2012 Projections:  80/16/65/.275/35

19. B.J. Upton – Honestly, I might be the only fantasy baseball ‘pert who doesn’t mind Fellatio Upton.  Sure, he hits for a wonky average, but so does your mom.  (Actually, I don’t know how well your mom hits for average.  Though she looks like she can’t leg out many infield hits on those cankles.)  Upton hits for power and steals bases.  I’m willing to go out on a limb that he can luck into a .260 average one of these years with his wheels and still go 20/40.  At 27 years of age, this is the year I’m betting on.  2012 Projections:  80/20/85/.250/40

20. Adam Jones – He has a few strikes against him.  But games haven’t started yet?!  Strikes against him was a figure of speech, Random Italicized Voice.  Jones’s ground ball rate isn’t great, which makes me think we’ll need to be lucky to get over 25 homers and his walk rate is near abysmal.  A guy that can give 25/12/.285 is valuable though in today’s bear market, which only sounds like a grocery store in The Castro.  2012 Projections:  80/25/90/.285/12

  1. HighUpside says:

    I miss Mile High Holliday… Sounds like Seth Rogan’s movie! xD Oh man, I crack me up…

  2. HighUpside says:

    Seth Rogan’s *next* movie. Fail. :(

  3. Muchaco says:

    Matt Holliday at #13!!! Does this mean you wouldn’t ever draft Holliday?

    Only kidding…. sorry Grey, had to do it… i can’t help myself (literally)

  4. BigRedLatrine says:

    Not seeing Ryan Braun makes me a little sadpanda

    Clean your pee, dude

  5. Tony says:

    I’ll say at least in the OF there’s more than 2 guys I’d like to own. Unlike all the infield positions except 1B.

  6. Tony says:

    is there really an advertisement with matthew berry in it on the right hand side?


  7. Yeah, I Remember When says:

    I don’t really understand how Granderson could be the #12 OF and a top-20 ranked OVERALL player.

    Are you assuming that Granderson plays a hellalotta DH?

  8. VinWins

    VinWins says:

    @Yeah, I Remember When: If you check out the provided link, you would see that Granderson was not listed in the top 20, only highlighted in the top 20 post as someone NOT to draft.

  9. oval rigor says:

    Fellatio, Jones, and Stubbs ahead of Alex Gordon? Hmm, I am in a seven keeper league and have Fellatio and A. Gordon to choose from. I was planning on going Gordo. But since I I.V. your kool-aid I will go Beejer. However, I would love to hear your thoughts on Gordon.

  10. Random Collmenter says:

    So does “moving Hamilton/Cruz down to the next tier in AL-only” basically mean you’d put Granderson ahead of them, or you just wouldn’t draft them too high overall?

    Also, why do you have Jennings ranked lower than Victorino but with seemingly slightly better projections (similar runs/RBIs/HRs/Avg but way more SBs)?


  11. Lance Berkman says:

    Im glad to see that I’m getting some love this year…but I still always sense a bit of reluctancey when youre doing so. Stop being such a hater Grey. Once I’m done with all these vacations and b*tches I will be the same old awesome big Berk this year, a world champion version!

  12. The Talented Mr. Dope Man says:

    ^ Traded away desmond jennings last year during a late season push to the championship…

    ^ cries about it every night while biting my pillow.

  13. Hawk says:


    I’m protecting three in my OF of Stanton, Choo, Morse and Stubbs. Which three do you recommend?

    BTW – I’m watching Sucker Punch on Netflix right now. Movie’s mildly interesting but the women are SMOKIN. Recommend watching but with the sound muted, if ya catch my drift.

  14. Alright gotta problem here. Dynasty 15 player keeper league with standard 3 year contracts that can be extended 3 more years. I have an offer for Howie Kendrick who I have at $24 in my 260 sal cap and I would receive Mark Trumbo for $9. both have the same amount of years left on the contract. Trumbo I think has the better long term value but Kendrick is very likely to be much better this year imo.

    What do you guys think?

  15. papasmurf says:

    I have 4 in the Top 20!

    Is the Boss in his walk year? If so, he could do an Adrian Beltre impression. Remember that year that perennial disappointment pulled 48 homers out of his ass?

  16. Jock says:

    Great Stuff Grey!

    Who would you keep in a 10 teamer with OPS and SLG out of Utley, Napoli, and Drubal?

  17. Rocco says:

    Alex Gordon is at least a top 15 OF – no doubt about it.

  18. Cosmo says:

    @VinWins: Well, I see him listed at #12 in this article, which is why we are here, link or not.
    Secondly, I came here to see about Braun. Disappointed to not see him listed. GLA

  19. Cosmo says:

    @Potter: I think, with the signing of AP, we have no idea what, if any, postion Trumbo will play. Hoping for 3rd base. Think at this point, Kendrick is the safer play.
    P.S.- Sad thing for Angels is that Kendricks is ranked higher than any of their True OF’s.

  20. KeeblerMN says:

    Great stuff as always. Nice to get my Desmond Jennings fix.
    Question, you have Carl Crawford in the “tags” area but he’s not on the list…. was that intentional?

  21. Paula Cole says:

    Where have all the cowboys gone? It can’t be this shallow at every position except for first base and catcher, can it?

  22. Curt says:

    Where is my designated driver, Shin Soo Choo?????

  23. Grey

    Grey says:

    @HighUpside: Hehe

    @Muchaco: Ha

    @BigRedLatrine: Ha

    @Tony: True

    @Tony: Is there? I don’t see it.

    @oval rigor: Gordon thoughts will be posted tomorrow.

    @Random Collmenter: Yeah on Granderson. Jennings has more risk.

    @The Talented Mr. Dope Man: Ha

    @Hawk: No Choo, drift caught.

    @Potter: I agree with what you said. Trumbo is more interesting, but this season might be tough for him.

    @papasmurf: Yup

    @Jock: Drubal

    @KeeblerMN: No, he was listed here before his wrist surgery. Good eye.

    @Paula Cole: I love your music!

    @Curt: Not here

  24. Captainpyper says:

    EEEEK Adam Jones. I couldn’t bring myself to draft him. Braun should do what Jones does in 100 games with a way higher average and OBP!

  25. Off Topic Tom says:

    I have a major man crush on Alex Avila. What will Prince do for Avila’s stats? Where do you see Avila in the Batting Order. Won’t this move plus being full time mean he will be seeing a lot of pitches do hit. I moved Avila from 4 to 2A with this move.

    Before: #1 Santana / #2 McCann / #3 Napoli / #4 Avila / #5 Posey
    After: #1 Santana / #2A Avila #2B McCann / #3 Napoli / #4 Posey / #5 Mauer

  26. Awesomus Maximus

    Awesomus Maximus says:

    Re: Sucker Punch – the gunfight on the train is possibly the sexiest, most badass “seems like a single-shot” action sequence ever. For the most badass (and second most badass) REAL single-shot action sequences, see Children of Men.

  27. Bas says:

    @Grey: Wow, you’re really down on Crawford. I kind of like him for a bounce back this year. I’d put him in the Hamilton/Cruz tier and take him before those two guys. There’s risk there, but there’s also upside. More so with Crawford than with Cruz, I’d think.

    Six of the last eight years Crawford has produced first round (top 15) value. Who else has done that? Glad you ask. Here’s the list:

    Pujols (who’s done it seven times). That’s it! (I like this stat for some reason)

    Now I’m willing to give a player of that kind of pedigree a mulligan on last year. Please tell me you’re writing a schmohawk piece on Crawford explaining your stance (or ‘stache, sorry couldn’t resist).

  28. Derek in Utah says:

    Kemp will overtake Bautista for the #1 outfielder this year.

    Overall, I like the rankings.

  29. Big Magoo

    Big Magoo says:

    I completely agree with you on Holliday. He’s been solid for a long time now, but he doesn’t run anymore and you can’t even count on him for 30 bombs. Just one omission that I must mention – Corey Hart. He looks like a great value this year. 280-30-100 doesn’t grow on trees these days. I’ll be taking him in the 8th-9th round in alot of drafts this year if his adp doesn’t change by march.

  30. Hardcore Midget says:

    @Awesomus Maximus: Love Children of Men, and totally agree.

    Another ridiculous single-shot action scene is Tony Jaa going up the staircase in the Protector. Absolutely ridiculous that they got all of the timing correct. I guess they had to film it 4 or 5 times, which must have been a pain in the ass.

  31. The Talented Mr. Dope Man says:

    @Bas: has a lot to do with his wrist injury. Wrist injuries usually KILL a players power for the first year. Crawford may start the season on the DL.

    @Grey: In other news, Ogando has been officially moved to the bullpen. Guess we all should adjust starting pitcher rankings accordingly. For some reason, i can see Ogando pushing Nathan for the closer role.. but I’m a nathan hater, and an ogando fan.

  32. Grey

    Grey says:

    @Off Topic Tom: I wouldn’t change my ranking do to the Fielder signing. He’s still young, prone to growing pains.

    @Awesomus Maximus: Children of Men was a great film. Sexy gunfights don’t usually get me excited though.

    @Bas: I had Crawford in this top 20, but then it was announced he might miss Opening Day because of wrist surgery. Wrist surgery isn’t good for a hitter.

    @Big Magoo: I like him, not in the top 20.

    @The Talented Mr. Dope Man: Figures on Ogando. He could push Nathan, don’t think he’d have to shove that hard.

  33. Oregon Nut Cups

    Oregon Nut Cups says:

    Right around Adam Jones/Drew Stubbs I’d be looking at Braun personally since both players carry alot of risk this year, IMHO.

  34. VinWins

    VinWins says:

    @Cosmo: His question was how Granderson could be the #12 OF and a top-20 ranked OVERALL player, and I was just pointing out he was not a top-20 ranked OVERALL player.

  35. Big Magoo

    Big Magoo says:

    @Grey: I hear ya on Hart. I know he’s not the sexiest player (double meaning intended – check out his headshot), but I see him putting up similar #s to Holliday, Berkman, Morse, etc. I guess my point is, once the top 12 OFs are off the board you can probably wait awhile to grab your next guy.

  36. Colby Rasmus. Clearly not a top 20 OF. But what are your thoughts on him? Waiting for that 80/22/85/.270/10 year is futile or quite possible this year?

  37. MA says:

    Having Stubbs and Jones ahead of Choo is ridiculous. In 2010, Choo was a 3/4th rounder. 2011 was a disaster (as it was for Stubbs), but that doesn’t matter now. 20/20/850-900 OPS will make you a top 15 OF this year.

  38. Captainpyper says:

    Matthew Berry at ESPN FB Summit…”3B is really deep this year.” lol

  39. EDUB says:

    Did you have Crawford over Jennings/Upton before surgery?

  40. Wake Up says:

    Oh, so I wasn’t way off-base with my Jennings-Stubbs comparison…maybe just too big-of-a-lead…What, are you actually thinking about AVG this year?

  41. Grey

    Grey says:

    @Wake Up: Don’t follow the question.

  42. KCJordan says:

    13-team AL-only 5×5 Roto Dynasty expansion draft going on now. The league starts 2 Catchers, so basically every starter and backup will be starting!

    Do I pick Alex Gordon or roll the dice with Jesus Montero and him filling a need at a very shallow C position?

  43. Wake Up says:

    @Grey: Guess I was just trying to be cryptic to appear to sound deep.
    Here is a good one for you. “As we light a path for others, we naturally light our own way.”
    Oh, and come in waves is still very funny!

  44. Wake Up says:

    I’m thinking of just drafting Pence and Choo, and then hibernating.

  45. Twombly says:

    I love how warm you keep my stove, Grey. In a 12t H2H keeper with 3 keepers losing their draft picks, who are you taking?

    Hosmer (22)
    Strasburg (20)
    Harper (23)
    Shields (22)
    MadBum (14)
    Beachy (20)
    Hanson or Weaver (7)

  46. Grey

    Grey says:

    @Twombly: Strasburg, Hosmer and Bumgarner…

  47. Bas says:

    @Grey: @The Talented Mr. Dope Man: So you think Crawford is definitely missing part of the season?

    The way I read Cherington’s quotes, he expects Crawford to be ready for opening day. Cherington’s covering his ass in case Crawford isn’t ready and taking pressure off of him in case of a set back. The quote about how hard-working and tough Crawford is reinforces this interpretation for me.

    I also seem to have read that the removal of loose cartilage isn’t a big deal for performance. Kind of like the removal of bone chips in the pitching elbow. It takes time to recover but it shouldn’t hamper performance.

    Do you think I’m wishcasting here or what?

  48. Marty says:

    Anyone looking for a good laugh, go check out the roto wire pitching rankings. Some highlights: Dan Hudson 17. Darvish 20. Latos 24. Shields 30. Cueto 32. RA Dickey 33… Wait for it. Greinke 34!  Zimmermann 38. Pineda 46. You have to go see the rest for yourself. 

  49. soupdujour says:

    Ahoy, Grey. Long time reader, first time poster. I know all situations are different and all, but I’m having a bit of trouble with whom I’m going to keep in my keeper league. And like others here, would like to solicit your advice, as I value it greatly.

    3 keepers, lose the pick where you draft them. H2H, 12 teams. Here’s the ones I’m thinking of:

    Votto (1), Stanton (6), Haren (8), Granderson (10), Bumgarner (14), Lawrie (25), Jennings (25).

    Of other note is that I pick 11th, so Votto won’t be there. I’m leaning towards Votto, Stanton, and Granderson, but would be interested to hear your input!

    Oh, and I don’t blame you for Liriano last year. I blame myself for believing in you. Haha! Just kidding. I don’t blame myself at all.

  50. Grey

    Grey says:

    @Bas: He could move up the rankings if he’s definitely coming back for Opening Day, but read yesterday he could miss a month.

    @Marty: Some of those aren’t crazy, though some are.

    @soupdujour: Votto, Stanton, Grandy…

  51. JoeC says:

    @Awesomus Maximus: Atonement has the best single-shot film sequence I’ve ever seen (when the soldiers are walking along the beach at Dunkirk).

    Not really an action scene per se though.

  52. Derek in Utah says:

    @Grey: Kershaw, Verlander, Halladay. If you could have one?

  53. The Talented Mr. Dope Man says:

    @Bas: Yeah i heard he will definitely start the season on the DL. If he misses a few weeks, then he will have to possible get some “rehab” AB’s down in the minors. I could see him missing a month.

    He was going to be one of my main targets at the draft, as i was hoping for a bounce back year. But I’m not dumb enough to hope for a “bounce back” year from a player who just had wrist surgery… no thanks.

  54. Steve says:

    Out here in the real world, if you have a wrist injury, you just change hands.

  55. Awesomus Maximus

    Awesomus Maximus says:

    @Grey: @Hardcore Midget: I use “sexy” to mean “slick and stylish” with Sucker Punch. Despite there being attractive women dressed in great outfits, I didn’t find the film to be arousing in the traditional sense. I think it’s a pretty widely misunderstood film, actually, but I won’t get into that (unless someone wants me to).

    The scene in The Protector is pretty badass, but (going from memory here) there are substantial buffers between the action cues, leaving room to reset if/when the timing gets wonky. There’s also no demands on the acting front to deal with.

    The Dunkirk tracking shot in Atonement is a beautiful piece of cinematography, and very moving. It does its job very well, full stop. From a “degree of difficulty” perspective, the lack of action cues, as well as the fact that much of the shot is audio-based (meaning it can be fixed in post production) doesn’t give it a very high ranking.

    The scenes from Children of Men, the car scene in particular, stand out for me because they rely on major action cues with very little buffer, and (more importantly) they demand legitimate acting throughout the scene.

    If anyone cares, P.D. James’ novel of the same name is a great and relatively quick read. It differs from the film in some major areas that make it worth reading even if you’ve seen the film.

  56. Steve says:

    @Awesomus Maximus: Didn’t Casino have a pretty cool single-shot sequence as well?

  57. Awesomus Maximus

    Awesomus Maximus says:

    @Steve: Doesn’t sound familiar. Are you thinking of Goodfellas, when Ray Liotta enters the Copacabana (through the rear entrance, through the kitchen, etc.)?

  58. Steve says:

    @Awesomus Maximus: Hmmm. Maybe that’s it. I’m confused now.

    We return you to your scheduled programming..

  59. Doog says:

    Dynasty points league, and I have a free agent decision to make: keep Scherzer at $3 or Masterson at $5, leaving the other to be bid up?

  60. Grey

    Grey says:

    @Doog: Scherzer

  61. Steve says:

    Good news for Fantasy Razzballers. Jeff Keppinger is on the verge of a Major League deal with the Rays.l

  62. Awesomus Maximus

    Awesomus Maximus says:

    @Grey: Is there anything Welles and/or Hitchcock haven’t already done brilliantly? CGI, I suppose… so the answer would be, “Nothing worth doing.”

  63. Grey

    Grey says:

    @Steve: Any reason to not play Sean-Rod I suppose…

    @Awesomus Maximus: Comedy, though The Trouble with Harry wasn’t terrible.

  64. JD, Too says:

    So, you’re betting on this being the year Upton hits .260, but projecting him to hit .250? I hope you’re not betting much because you think you’ll lose.

  65. Andrew says:

    14 Team H2H Keeper League

    Need to Keep 4:

    Kinsler, Teixeria, Bruce, Lee, Weaver and Felix


  66. Awesomus Maximus

    Awesomus Maximus says:

    @Grey: Heh… true, I never thought of that. Comedy will always be cinema’s red-headed stepchild. Actually, the proverbial red-headed stepchild at least gets beaten… I’m not sure what colloquialism covers children that get ignored. Middle children?

  67. Jay29 says:

    @Captainpyper: ESPN is 10-team standard, right? I guess Berry says 3B is deep because the top 10 ain’t bad. But it’s a hell of a dropoff soon after that.

  68. Awesomus Maximus

    Awesomus Maximus says:

    Holy flaming dog balls! Are we aware that a new MTV Challenge (Battle of the Exes) premieres this evening at 10PM?

  69. Grey

    Grey says:

    @JD, Too: Small bet with myself. If I mooch, I’ll forgive myself.

    @Andrew: Not Weaver or Lee.

    @Awesomus Maximus: Dying is easy…

    @Awesomus Maximus: My DVR is set for “Anything cheesy or crappy” so I’m good to go.

  70. SwaggerJackers says:

    Add me to the list of people surprised Choo is below Stubbs.

    Morse feels like a risky pick at 13th overall.

  71. SwaggerJackers says:

    Oops, Morse at 16….

  72. chata says:


    your response (#50) indicates that you value bumgarner 72 slots ,
    (6 rounds) above beachy .

    on this , we disagree .

    not sure in which round you’d be taking bumgarner ,
    but i’ll be taking an outfielder there , and waiting 5 or 6 more rounds
    and taking beachy …. even if the draft is on a muesday .

  73. Wake Up says:

    Just talked to my Gram…Easy G, as a call her…she’s starting a hardcore yarn group…Knitters with attitudes…

  74. Grey

    Grey says:

    @chata: It’s a keeper, so that’s a bit apples and oranges.

    @Wake Up: KWA? Oh, yeah!

  75. Wake Up says:

    @Grey: Knittaz4Life featuring Double Loop Dogg

  76. Tom says:

    Hey Grey – here’s my keepers for this year. Im guessing i should stick with Berkman

    Mike Minor
    Edwin Jackson
    Johan Santana
    Lance Berkman
    Sean Rodr.
    Brandon Allen
    Eric Young

  77. Grey

    Grey says:

    @Wake Up: Isn’t it Efil4zattink?

    @Tom: One from them? Then yeah…

  78. Awesomus Maximus

    Awesomus Maximus says:

    @Grey: No spoilers, but it ticked the “Cheesy” box, so you should have it waiting for you. You let me know when you’ve seen it, and then we’ll do that thing where we judge people who put their personal lives on TV.

  79. Steve says:

    What does January Grey think about Scherzer? Good Ks, dodgy WHIP?

  80. Steve says:

    Actually I guess you could always say that about him regardless of what month it is.

  81. Tom says:

    any suggestions on when to take your 1st pitcher this year? 12team h2h mixed

  82. Chris says:

    @Grey: Keeper question…5×5 standard roto, I get three 3-year keepers and one 1-year keeper. Not gonna get into the details, but the only player I’m currently locked into right now is the 2nd year of McCutchen. I figure it’s also a given that’ll I’ll be locking up Verlander on a 3 year deal.

    Who would be your other 2 keepers from this list (please designate the 1 year keeper):

    Beltre, Victorino, Castro, Berkman, Carpenter, and Beachy.


  83. AJ says:

    I think what Berry means is that there is a very large tier of more or less interchangeable 3B after Bautista, Longoria, and Beltre are off the board. There really isn’t much of a dropoff from #4 through #10 so you can wait on 3b.

    It seems like every website has those 7 players ranked differently, and I wouldn’t be surprised at all if they finished in any given order. The problem is that they all carry big risk. I see half of them performing to expectations and half falling off the map, but I couldn’t tell you which is which. So, imo, if you miss out on the top 3, your best bet at 3rd is just to wait until the end of that tier and hope that you ended up with one of the ones that perform.

  84. AJ says:

    PS. I meant #4 through 11. And I’m including Wright and not Beltre because Wright carries the same risk that I’m talking about:

    Wright (injury/performance)
    Sandoval (2010 performance)
    Zimmerman (INJURY)
    Lawrie (pretty much a rookie)
    Arod (age/injury)
    Aramis (age/injury/Wrigley splits)
    Youk (injury)
    M Young (age)

    I have little to no clue how that group shakes out.

  85. Grey

    Grey says:

    @Awesomus Maximus: Haven’t seen it yet, but can’t wait to…

    @Steve: Yup, always…

    @Tom: 3rd round or later…

    @Chris: Beltre, Castro…

    @AJ: There’s not a whole lot late…

    @AJ: Yeah, I understand those parenticals, but injury and young age is better than injury and old age…

  86. Po says:

    Keeper Question: 3 keepers losing the draft pick…

    Pence (5th)
    Stanton (6th)
    Chacin (14th)
    Ike Davis (18th)

    Basically just asking Chacin in the 14th or Ike in the 18th

    Also, I currently have 2nd pick but I really want longoria do you suggest trading down to get him in snake draft second round?

  87. Titan says:

    Any thoughts to becoming one of the expert rankers at the link below? Not sure if you can just call yourself a “pert” and ask to be part of it, but it would be nice to sort by the stache and see your rankings alongside the upcoming ADP data they’ll have there so I’ll no when to take a razzball preferred player just ahead of where my ESPN/CBS leaguemates are hoping to take that player.

  88. Hustler says:

    I got stuck with Kinsler. Trying to deal him…Kendrick is my back up.

    I was purposed a trade: Kinsler for Jennings (OF) and Venteres (RP)

    My Current OF: BJ Upton, Stubbs, Werth, Bourjos

    My Current RP: Madson, Jansen, Roberson, Rauch

    Should I do it??

    • Hustler says:


      Also was purposed:

      Giving: Kinsler and Stubbs


      Receiving: Bruce and Bourn

      Which should I accept of Razzball Gods…Or should I hold?

  89. KevinB says:

    Ryan Braun Wins Appeal, Will Not Be Suspended
    By Mike Axisa [February 23, 2012 at 4:09pm CST]

    Ryan Braun has won his appeal of his failed drug test and will not be suspended for the first 50 games of the season, reports Tom Haudricourt of The Journal Sentinel (Twitter links). The union officially announced the win, saying both parties agreed to the announcement despite what is usually a confidential process. The reigning NL MVP is the first player to have a suspended overtuned through the appeals process.

    Does this change your Top-20 rankings in anyway?

    • KevinB says:

      and … how would you rank Braun in the Top-5 rankings?

  90. David says:

    So Pence over Holliday?

    I need two Keepers, I have Fielder then either Holliday, Pence or Verlander. No way Pence is worth keeping, and if you have him over Holliday I guess Verlander is the choice?

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