The top 20 3rd basemen for 2018 fantasy baseball ends the infield rankings for 2018.  I say, Amed to that!  Rosario, specifically.  With the end of the infield rankings, we can get a bigger picture, uh, picture on depth of each position.  I call this segment of the program, The Fantastically Flexible File on Marwin Gonzalez.  Or The Marvelous Mr. Marwin, if Jeff Bezos is reading.  Since Marwin’s got more eligibility than a guy who lives in his mom’s basement and has a cat named Kylo, let’s look at where he is in each ranking.  For the top 20 1st baseman for 2018 fantasy baseball, he was ranked 30th, for the top 20 2nd basemen for 2018 fantasy baseball, he was ranked 22nd, for the top 20 shortstops for 2018 fantasy baseball, he was ranked 20th, and here he’s 24th.  Clearly, the infield positions from deepest to shallowest are:  1B, 3B, 2B, and SS.  Marwin, you illuminating mother!  Any hoo!  My projections are noted for every player and all positions are at the 2018 fantasy baseball rankings.  By the hoo, Rudy has all his 2018 rankings up on the Preseason Player Rater.  Anyway, here’s the top 20 3rd basemen for 2018 fantasy baseball:

1. Nolan Arenado – Went over him in the top 10 for 2018 fantasy baseball.

2. Manny Machado – Went over him in the top 10 for 2018 fantasy baseball.

3. Kris Bryant – Went over him in the top 10 for 2018 fantasy baseball.

4. Freddie Freeman – Went over him in the top 20 for 2018 fantasy baseball.

5. Jose Ramirez – Went over him in the top 20 for 2018 fantasy baseball.

6. Anthony Rendon – This is a new tier.  This tier goes from here until here.  I call this tier, “Pot committed, which is not to say I’m stoned.”  I really tried to get Rendon into the top 20 overall.  I kicked and pushed like Lupe Fiasco.  His peripherals are gorge, and I’m engorged.  He dropped his Ks by 5%, upped his walk rate by 4%, dropped his ground balls, upped his fly balls with the 18th best Medium and Hard Contact, and swung at the 6th lowest number of pitches outside the zone.  He’s about to have a career year in the middle of one of the best lineups in baseball.  I know he’s not a sexy name like Ohtani, I get it, but he’s essentially Kris Bryant, Freeman and Rizzo twenty spots later.  I’m thinking about calling him my preseason NL MVP and I’m all in on Rendon.  *dealer motions to my clenched fist*  No, I’m all in; I don’t have chips in this hand.  I have a shark tooth necklace I ripped off Rougned Odor’s neck after going all in on him last year.  *makes a dopey face and a thumbs up*  Also, I go over Rendon in the video.  2018 Projections:  92/31/108/.298/9 in 544 ABs

7. Alex Bregman – This is a new tier.  This tier goes from here until Donaldson.  I call this tier, “Touching wet paint.”  When you touch wet paint, there’s that moment before you pick up your hand, when you know your hand will have paint on it, but you haven’t seen the paint yet on your hand.  If you never lift your hand, you’ll never see the wet paint.  That’s this tier.  There’s gonna be long stretches when you’re going to want to lift your hand off them, but if you hold tight they will do what they’re capable of.  As for Bregman, went over him in the top 20 shortstops for 2018 fantasy baseball.

8. Miguel Sano – Went over him in the top 20 1st basemen for 2018 fantasy baseball.

9. Josh Donaldson – It’s unlikely I own Donaldson anywhere this year.  I was expecting to be even further down on him, in a non-sexual way, but this is plenty down.  He’s going on average before four guys ahead of him.  If a 32-year-old excites you, what about Kemp?  How about Zimmerman?  Justin Turner?  Your mom’s work friend?  Okay, maybe all they have in common is their age, but a guy that missed half a season with an injury at that age scares the bejesus out of me.  By the way, sausage pronounced backwards is Jesus, coincidence?  Anecdotes aside, his Ks went up, his BABIP fell, which makes sense because his line drives fell dramatically, and his gams aren’t moving like they used to.  The only thing that is positive with Donaldson is he managed to hit a ton of homers in the 2nd half, but I wouldn’t count on that again.  2018 Projections:  78/29/87/.266/3 in 524 ABs

10. Travis Shaw – This is a new tier.  This tier goes from here until Seager.  I call this tier, “Josh, get down here.”  By the tier name I mean, I struggled not putting Donaldson below all of these guys.  Instead, I plan on not drafting Donaldson (or Turner), and just drafting one of these guys.  Due to where I’m going to be ranking these guys overall, I have a feeling I’m going to be drafting a 3B and a corner man in this tier (assuming I don’t get a top six guy).  As for Shaw, and actually a comment on all hitters last year, did anyone have a lower HR/FB% last year than their career norm?  Shaw had a huge HR/FB uptick, but you can’t find a player who didn’t.  Even Alcides Escobar hit more homers last year.  Shaw’s fly balls were down, however, so if he gets those fly balls back, it will offset a downtick in HR/FB%.  Miller Park isn’t a place I’d bank on less homers either.  Unless it’s Barney Miller Park and homers meant Abe Vigoda trying to get laid.  So do I like Shaw?  Pshaw, are you paying attention?  2018 Projections:  77/30/91/.267/8 in 515 ABs

11. Mike Moustakas – And just as I say that about HR/FB% in Shaw’s blurb, I look at Moistasskiss and his HR/FB% dropped last year after hitting a career-high in homers.  This was thanks to a higher fly ball rate, which takes me back to my Shaw point.  Did Abe Vigoda ever get laid?  Wait, not that point, the point about fly balls.  If a guy hits more fly balls, he doesn’t need to hit as many out.  Okay, PETA’s gonna throw paint at me if I keep beating this dead horse.  Moistasskiss’ stats do tell me there’s gonna be some regression, but as long as the bottom doesn’t drop out, he should be okay.  UPDATE:  Here’s my Mike Moustakas fantasy for when he re-signed with the Royals.  2018 Projections:  78/30/90/.264 in 531 ABs

12. Joey Gallo – Went over him in the top 20 1st basemen for 2018 fantasy baseball.

13. Rafael Devers – It’s time for the prorater!  It’s time for the prorater!  It’s time for the prorater!  *dancing with my glowstick next to an Asian man wearing ski goggles*  If Devers played 150 games last year, he would’ve went 78/19/70/.284/7, which is almost exactly Devers’ projections from Steamer in 130 games for this year.  This feels conservative with a hint of realistic.  As my mentor once said to me, there’s no place for realism in fantasy.  My mentor was the Asian man with the ski goggles, he called himself Mr. My-ah-goo, to avoid trademark lawsuits.  Devers could easily beat those numbers, and those numbers sound like Bogaerts’ best case scenario projections for power and speed.  2018 Projections:  70/24/81/.281/8 in 520 ABs

14. Jake Lamb – Two years in a row when he’s put up nearly identical stats, and has done it in a nearly identical way, by taking July 15 thru the end of the season off.  Pardon the gender specificity, but, man, if he puts it together one of these 2nd halfs, he’ll be a 40 HR, .290 guy.  From 1st half to 2nd half, he goes from Lamborghini to Lamb.  2018 Projections:  84/31/97/.251/3 in 531 ABs

15. Nicholas Castellanos – I already gave you a Nicholas Castellanos sleeper.  I wrote it while calling him Nick.   2018 Projections: 81/29/103/.283/5 in 588 ABs

16. Kyle Seager – I go over Seager in the above video.  2018 Projections:  75/28/92/.266/3 in 582 ABs

17. Adrian Beltre – This is a new tier.  This tier goes from here until Maikel.  I call this tier, “Plato’s Cave.”  3rd is deep, not as in philosophical, but this tier is filled with guys who have a track record of being productive.  Not saying I’d love owning guys in these tier as my 3rd baseman, but I’m not kicking them out of bed, in a bed that has bedsheets labeled, “Corner man.”  Even if they, uh, sheet the sheets, you can find someone else.  As for Beltre, if you would’ve told someone ten years ago, Beltre would age better than Pujols, would anyone have believed you?  Not even your mom?  That’s sad.  2018 Projections:  83/24/91/.280/1 in 549 ABs

18. Evan Longoria – Here’s what I said this offseason, “The Giants went out and traded for the 32-year-old Evan Longoria, who has rapidly been declining for years.  He should feel at home with the Giants since he is used to being in places that collect old people.  On the bright side, Longoria plays a lot, staying on the field.  On the dim side, you kinda wish he’d take more days off.”  And that’s me quoting me!  2018 Projections:  86/22/94/.271/2 in 608 ABs

19. Eugenio Suarez – Last year, he went 26/4/.260, after a 21/11/.248 season the year before.  So, he could be a 32/7/.275 guy in the making, but his perfs — that’s what the kids call them — don’t tell me he’s headed that way.  Getting more of a 20/5 vibe from him.  Crazy how a 26/4 guy could become a 32/10 or a 20/5 guy, huh?  So, not crazy as in crazy interesting, or crazy like Margot Kidder.  2018 Projections:  83/21/90/.262/5 in 552 ABs

20. Justin Turner – If you can’t guess, Donaldson and Turner could’ve been a separate tier of guys I just don’t want to draft.  Of course, never say never, except when saying ‘never say never,’ then you’re saying never twice, and I’ve now said never five times (six).  So, the negation of the negation times three is a triple-double negative.  I don’t know what that means, but Turner is being drafted too high for a 20/5 guy whose fantasy value is contingent on a high average.  UPDATE:  Out for six to eight weeks with a broken wrist.   Or maybe it’s seven to nine weeks.  Depends who you’re asking.  I’d ask a doctor, but what do I know?  This pushes Logan Forsythe into a starting role, which is good for my Tout Wars team, but bad for–Oh, why focus on the negative, right?  Okay, if we must, not only is Turner out through May, when he returns, his left wrist may not be right, like an anatomical Freaky Friday.2018 Projections:  67/18/72/.288/3 in 408 ABs

21. Maikel Franco – I’m not giving up the hope of Maikel breaking out into a perennial All-Star, but I’m also not predicting it until I see it.  If he was capable of 5-10 steals, it would be one thing, but he has to hit 30 HRs and .275 to even approach the breaking out point, and he’s nowhere near there yet.  On a side note, from Beltre until Scooter are literally all the same fantasy value to varying degrees, which makes my use of literally completely incorrect.  Since Carpenter is in there, let’s say it’s Jesus and his disciples.  Or a backwards sausage, for those following along.   Then again, a sausage looks the same frontwards and backwards.  What does it all mean?!  2018 Projections:  71/27/82/.251 in 560 ABs

22. Eduardo Nunez – This is a new tier.  This tier goes from here until Scooter.  I call this tier, “Been here, ranked these guys elsewhere.”  As for Nunez, went over him in the top 20 2nd basemen for 2018 fantasy baseball.

23. Matt Carpenter – Went over him in the top 20 1st basemen for 2018 fantasy baseball.

24. Marwin Gonzalez – Went over him in the top 20 1st basemen for 2018 fantasy baseball.

25. Scooter Gennett – Went over him in the top 20 2nd basemen for 2018 fantasy baseball.

26. Ryon Healy – This is a new tier.  This tier goes from here until Harrison.  I call this tier, “Could be value or could be *sound of cartoon character falling off cliff*” Tier name is self-explanatory, these guys will be surprising value, or dropped quickfast.  As for Healy, went over him in the top 20 1st basemen for 2018 fantasy baseball.

27. Yangervis Solarte – Went over him in the top 20 2nd basemen for 2018 fantasy baseball.

28. Eduardo Escobar – Went over him in the top 20 2nd basemen for 2018 fantasy baseball.

29. Josh Harrison – Went over him in the top 20 2nd basemen for 2018 fantasy baseball.

30. Matt Chapman – This is a new tier.  This tier goes from here until Crawford.  I call this tier, “Stop puffing out your chest.”  I could see people drafting a guy from this tier with this running through their mind, “Wow, I can’t believe I got him so late?  I wonder if other people realize what a great bargain this was.  Hey, why did someone just say, ‘What a terrible pick?’  They weren’t talking to me were they?  Why are the walls closing in?  I need air!”  Then you look around realizing you said all of that aloud.  As for Chapman, check out the video.  2018 Projections:  61/26/72/.232/2 in 481 ABs

31. Todd Frazier – He’s only one year removed from a 40-homer season!  Dot dot dot.  And he hasn’t hit over .225 in two seasons and he’s now hitting 378 foot fly outs instead of 395 foot home runs.  Yay… *raspberries lips*…nay.  UPDATE:  Signed with the Mets.  Serious question, if the Yankees are a big market team, why do the Mets seem like they’re playing with house money and the house is in Topeka, Kansas and the house is two minutes from being demolished by a tornado?  2018 Projections:  63/24/73/.220/5 in 453 ABs

32. Jose Reyes – Went over him in the top 20 2nd basemen for 2018 fantasy baseball.

33. Asdrubal Cabrera – Went over him in the top 20 2nd basemen for 2018 fantasy baseball.

34. J.P. Crawford – Went over him in the top 20 shortstops for 2018 fantasy baseball.

35. Jedd Gyorko – This is a new tier.  This tier goes from here until Spangenberg.  I call this tier, “How many bench spots you got?”  These guys are either in a platoon, or starting the year in the minors.  As for Gyorko, went over him in the top 20 1st basemen for 2018 fantasy baseball.

36. Wilmer Flores – Went over him in the top 20 1st basemen for 2018 fantasy baseball.

37. Derek Dietrich – Went over him in the top 20 1st basemen for 2018 fantasy baseball.

38. Nick Senzel – Already gave you my Nick Senzel fantasy.  It was written without gettin’ it twisted.  2018 Projections:  58/14/63/.271/10 in 378 ABs

39. Cory Spangenberg – Is it just me or can you not look at this guy’s name and think of the girl from Bosom Buddies and/or sister in Back to the Future?  Wendie Jo?  No?  Okay.  Must be showing my age.  *applies Just for Men to mustache*  2018 Projections:  52/15/49/.232/10 in 421 ABs

40. Brian Anderson – This is a new tier.  This tier goes from here until Prado.  I call this tier, “Do you have an at-bats category?”  These guys should have a starting job, and *raspberries lips*  As for Anderson, he made the top 10 3rd basemen prospects from Prospector Ralph.  There, PR said, “After two and half years of moderate power and production, Anderson tapped into his raw power in 2017, riding it to a late season callup.  I see the Marlins top hitting prospect as a high floor player that could produce solid fantasy seasons in deeper leagues of 16 teams plus.  Long term I’d expect a line of .270, 20 HR, 75 RBI at peak, with maybe a little more batting average upside than power.  Should be a factor in Miami in 2018.  Also, Grey is dumb.”  Hey, c’mon!  With the way Pasta Diving Jeter is selling off pieces, Anderson might not only be playing 3rd for the Marlins, he might have to cover the entire left side of the field.  He looks like a 15-homer, .250 guy to me, but maybe there’s some upside.  2018 Projections:  54/15/67/.255/1 in 513 ABs

41. Russell Martin – Went over him in the top 20 catchers for 2018 fantasy baseball.

42. Jeimer Candelario – He turns the “Candy Man can” phrase on its head, because I’m not sure what he can do.  2018 Projections:  56/13/65/.259/1 in 504 ABs

43. Matt Davidson – Went over him in the top 20 1st basemen for 2018 fantasy baseball.

44. Luis Valbuena – Went over him in the top 20 1st basemen for 2018 fantasy baseball.

45. Chase Headley – Went over him in the top 20 1st basemen for 2018 fantasy baseball.

46. Martin Prado – Serious question:  do you need a clubhouse presence when you plan on losing 110 games?  2018 Projections:  54/8/56/.262 in 502 ABs

47. Matt Duffy – This is a new tier.  This tier goes from here until the end of the list.  I call this tier, “Tombstone pizza, hold the crust, sauce and cheese.”  If you have a field of Tombstone pizzas without the pizza, what do you have?  A field of Tombstones, aka a cemetery.   Welcome to the end of the 3rd base rankings!  As for Duffy, he’s entering his prime.  In that he’s divisible by one and himself.  2018 Projections:  54/7/61/.251/9 in 467 ABs

48. Miguel Andujar – Raise your hand if you really think the Yankees are going to have Andujar play 3rd base for them all year.  Since I am omniscient, I can report back to you our informal hand-raising poll numbers show no one thinks Andujar will be the Yanks’ 3rd baseman all year.  And, no, I didn’t count Bob, who raised both his hands.  UPDATE:  Looks like Bob was right to raise both his hands, as the Yanks traded for Drury.  Gonna leave Andujar here, but he might not be up until June.  2018 Projections:  46/10/52/.273/3 in 356 ABs

49. Pablo Sandoval – Went over him in the top 20 1st basemen for 2018 fantasy baseball..

50. Wilmer Difo – Went over him in the top 20 2nd basemen for 2018 fantasy baseball.

51. Johan Camargo – Went over him in the top 20 2nd basemen for 2018 fantasy baseball.

52. Hernan Perez – Went over him in the top 20 2nd basemen for 2018 fantasy baseball.

53. Logan Forsythe – Went over him in the top 20 2nd basemen for 2018 fantasy baseball.

54. Pat Valaika – Went over him in the top 20 shortstops for 2018 fantasy baseball.

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Scott Kimmel
Scott Kimmel
4 years ago

Hey Grey,

Would you make this trade? I trade minor leaguers Luis Urias 2B SD, and Ryan McMahon 1B,3B, COL and I get Miguel Andujar 3B, NYY and Vlad Jr.

Better Call Limehouse
Better Call Limehouse
Reply to  Scott Kimmel
4 years ago

@Scott Kimmel: do this, remember when i say that it means YOU are the guy getting vlad jr. this answer could also be answered in these ways:
– do it
-yes
-yeah
– i would
– i’d prefer the vlad side
– sounds good
– affirmative
-da
– oui
– yeppers

Ronald
Ronald
4 years ago

I have Sano in a keeper league. How long do you think he will be suspended?

Racehorse
Racehorse
4 years ago

Keon Broxton for Eduardo Nunez?

Racehorse
Racehorse
Reply to  Grey
4 years ago

@Grey: that’s better than garish …

If you had to pick, which side would you prefer?

Racehorse
Racehorse
Reply to  Grey
4 years ago

@Grey: dynasty … I have Brinson stashed on my minor league roster as a handcuff.

Racehorse
Racehorse
Reply to  Racehorse
4 years ago

@Racehorse: as a handcuff with Broxton.

Racehorse
Racehorse
Reply to  Grey
4 years ago

@Grey: “Kamsahamnida, Ahjussi!

Korean for “Thank you, Sir!”

(at least I hope so, I was over their twice with the USAF, and no one corrected me)

Thanks, Grey — luv this stuff!

Bob
Bob
4 years ago

Hey Grey, 5×5 Roto 8 team NL only Auction 260 cap unlimited keepers. Would you keep any of these players?
Pollock $21
Atherr $6
Nick Williams $5
Bronson $5
JD Crawford $5
McMahon $5
Flaherty $5
Buehler $5
Gohora $5
Woodruff $5 thanks, Grey

Bob
Bob
Reply to  Grey
4 years ago

Thanks Grey. I was thinking about keeping them all. I won’t keep Woodruff.

BB
BB
4 years ago

Hey, Grey: Realize you haven’t ranked SP yet, but speaking of Lamb, any thoughts on Stroman/Maitan for him and Snell? Thinking about offering that in a daily dynasty league (6×6 w/OBP), rebuilding for 2020 – have a huge hole at 3B, Senzel’s on the way but worried about him staying there. Thanks!

InferiorHippo
InferiorHippo
4 years ago

I have a ton of OF, was just offered Wil Myers for Domingo Santana (10 team Dynasty league, keep 15 players per year), do you like it or no? Right now my 1b is Smoak.

InferiorHippo
InferiorHippo
Reply to  InferiorHippo
4 years ago

@InferiorHippo: He also mentioned Scott Kingery (hes in a rebuilding phase and wants a prospect) I have Dee gordon and Schoop, so dont need a 2b prospect as much. Do i take a chance with Wil or pass on the frustration of owning him?

InferiorHippo
InferiorHippo
Reply to  Grey
4 years ago

@Grey: Perfect, thanks Grey!

Jon
Jon
4 years ago

A) Arenado for 2 of Starling Marte/Pollock/Domingo Santana/Pham plus 1 of DeGrom/Ray/Paxton

B) Arenado for Lindor plus 1 of Yelich/Archer/CMart/Gray

C) Keep Arenado

A bit of context: 10 team keep forever league, 5×5 scoring. My team also has Ramirez, Bregman, and Vlad Jr, so I have a glut of 3B (which is why I’m thinking about trading Arenado at all). Here are my keepers as they stand now:

1B Goldy
1B Abreu
2B/3B Ramirez
3B Arenado
SS/3B Bregman
SS Bogaerts
OF Betts
OF Stanton
SP Carrasco
SP Cueto
SP Cole
SP McCullers
SP Berrios
RP Osuna
Minor leaguers (can be called up June 1): Acuna, Vlad Jr.

I have room for 1-4 additional keepers. Best options from my roster are Odor, Gausman, Aaron Sanchez, and Hand…

Jon
Jon
Reply to  Grey
4 years ago

@Grey: not Lindor and Sonny, though?

Jon
Jon
Reply to  Grey
4 years ago

@Grey: OK think I have the other guy ready to go for Lindor and Yelich. Thanks for the advice.

Victor
Victor
4 years ago

Jake Lamb or Domingo Santana? OBP league

Rob
Rob
4 years ago

5×5 Roto auction league with 15 keepers and a $260 cap…13 are locked and loaded and looking for thoughts as to who else to keep.

I’m keeping the following:

Altuve $60
Rendon $15
Moncada $13
D. Santana $3
Springer $16
J. Upton $18
Stanton $32

Archer $12
Arrieta $17
Berrios $2
Severino $2
Paxton $3
A. Wood $5

I have to pick two keepers from the following:

Smoak $3
Zimmerman $3
Lamb $7
Giolito $2
L. Weaver $2
Osuna $11
Cespedes $14
Conforto $2
Story $2
Bour $2
Taillon $1

Rob
Rob
Reply to  Grey
4 years ago

Yeah, I was thinking about doing that…Thanks!

Racehorse
Racehorse
4 years ago

I have a hole at 3B on my dynasty team …

Should I trade Odor for Devers ?

Racehorse
Racehorse
Reply to  Racehorse
4 years ago

@Racehorse: I currently have Cano and minor leaguers Scott Kingery and Luis Urias.

J-FOH
J-FOH
4 years ago

I finished the unabomber mini series. I liked it. That Harvard story was nuts

J-FOH
J-FOH
Reply to  Grey
4 years ago

@Grey: What’s dark?

J-FOH
J-FOH
Reply to  Grey
4 years ago

@Grey: I don’t mind dubs…hehe

J-FOH
J-FOH
Reply to  Grey
4 years ago

@Grey: well, looks like we got ourselves a reader

LG Baseball
LG Baseball
4 years ago

Grey!

Great write up and like the videos – keep ’em coming

In a 10 team 10 player keeper and I have Arenado as a keeper and not much pitching so wondering if you would trade my benintendi and devers for his Robbie Ray and Rendon? I know rendon would give me 2 great 3rd baseman but could use him at Util and agree he could have a huge season. Devers could be great long term tho.

LG

LG Baseball
LG Baseball
Reply to  Grey
4 years ago

@Grey: @Grey: yeah I don’t have to pick my keepers for a while so I’ll hit you with a keeper question later but I went hard on upside batters and prospects once I lost in the playoffs so could use Ray.

Thanks!

Christopher Coriell
4 years ago

How high are you on Severino this year on a high powered offensive Yanks team? 12 team points league! 1 yearly keeper

Bterry
Bterry
4 years ago

12 team league with expanded benches to 9 if that matters.

Bterry
Bterry
4 years ago

Keeper question. 4 keeper. Keep forever league. Standard 5×5 with k/9 instead of k. Already keeping Trout, Arenado, and Freeman. I’ve been offered Rendon for a 15th round pick from someone who is not planning on keeping him. (They have 4 strong keepers already). Since I am not keeping anyone in 4th round I already have a decent shot at Rendon in draft for nothing. My pick will be the 4th overall pick with guys like doozier, Ohtani, corrasco, buxton, Hoskins, greinke, darvish, Murphy, c mart, b ham all available. Is it worth it for me to send him the pick so I don’t have to risk not getting Rendon in the 4th? Or just wait and if he goes in top 3 picks just snag someone from the prementioned list while keeping my 15th round pick? I’m leaning toward keeping the pick and hoping he is there in my 4th round (keeper) pick slot.

Bterry
Bterry
Reply to  Grey
4 years ago

@Grey: got him for a 16th round pick and his waiver priority post draft. He finished 3rd last year and will have 3rd waiver priority post draft. (Reverse draft order). This league plays pretty deep with the extended benches. Somebody in this league always drops someone I want early roster-bating.

Fantasy bus riding is not as much fun
Fantasy bus riding is not as much fun
4 years ago

Hi Grey

Yeah to be back!

Got a dynasty question for ya

I was offered
Schoop, Beni, for
Vlad, Zimmer, Piscotty

Vlad is in my minors. I will save $3 by trading piscotty. Zimmer is a throw in I wouldn’t keep.

Both Beni and schoop are at the beginning of their contracts so I can have both for a while.

I feel like I should pull this trigger even though vlad looks like he will be a monster… right?

Uncle Ernie
Uncle Ernie
4 years ago

I see your high on Rendon( no pun intended) in an earlier post you picked him over Ozuna. What $ value do you see them both getting on draft day. 8 teamer. Thanks

birrrdy!
birrrdy!
4 years ago

If we just average Longo’s last two seasons, he’s at 76/28/92/.267/3. Throw in the change-in-scenery bump effect and the name correlation to a hot female celebrity (team name possibilities bonus points), I think he’s probably undervalued in these rankings. Would bump him about 5 spots up IMHO.

Great rankings, and great time of year Sir Grey!

Captainpyper
Captainpyper
4 years ago

Couldn’t find Rudy’s preseason ranks! His last update was from October.

Test Kitchen
Test Kitchen
4 years ago

Grey,

10 team, 10 keepers, OPS instead of AVG

Thoughts on swapping Pham for Buxton? I need some speed on my team and I am having a hard time trusting Pham.

Thanks

Derek MacIntyre
Derek MacIntyre
4 years ago

Pick 8 keepers – Head to Head categories, OBP instead of AVG, Wins+QS instead of Wins, and Saves+Holds instead of Saves:

$11 Jose Ramirez
$10 J.D. Martinez
$3 Marcell Ozuna
$10 Tommy Pham
$19 Anthony Rendon
$3 Robbie Ray
$1 Luke Weaver
$1 Yoan Moncada

$1 Jake Lamb
$4 Roberto Osuna
$2 Raisel Iglesias

Leaning towards cutting those last three – I hate investing in saves, though sometimes my league pays the relievers well, and I hate Jake Lamb’s splits against lefties. What are your thoughts? I also love Rendon :) especially for the OBP league!

Derek MacIntyre
Derek MacIntyre
Reply to  Grey
4 years ago

@Grey:

Thanks Grey! Look forward to the auction values :)

Rum Ham
Rum Ham
4 years ago

Loving Rendon as a target in the 40’s, then Castellanos as a target in the low-to-mid 100’s. Judging by other ‘perts rankings this pairing will be very attainable come draft day. Yum yum gimme some!

While we’re on the topic of 3b Grey I gotta thank you for the best trade I ever made in a keeper. 2015 preseason when Brantley’s value was at it’s peak you were lower on him than most and crazy high on pre-breakout Arenado (like top 20 vs 70’s on other sites). The guy agreed to a straight swap and it has been glory days ever since. TORENADO!

Rum Ham
Rum Ham
Reply to  Grey
4 years ago

@Grey: Can’t say. Is my musk coming through across the wifi? I’ve been told it’s pungent, I took it as a compliment.

Rum Ham
Rum Ham
Reply to  Grey
4 years ago

@Grey: I LEARNED IT BY WATCHING YOU!!

Nick
Nick
4 years ago

Grey,

Keeper question. Auction draft, 10 team, Yahoo H2H, $260, can keep 5 of the following. Your thoughts? Thank you as always.

Nolan Arenado – $23
Carlos Correa – $15
Andrew Benintendi – $10
Rafael Devers – $5
Freddie Freeman – $28
Jonathan Schoop – $10
Robbie Ray – $7
Luis Severino – $5

Nick
Nick
Reply to  Grey
4 years ago

@Grey: Thank you! I was between Severino and Freeman. What made you side with Freeman?

Matt
Matt
Reply to  Nick
4 years ago

@Nick: Going into his prime age seasons. He’s going to be a monster the next three years.

Matt
Matt
4 years ago

This is a dumb question but I’m going to ask anyway. Any chance Castellanos ever plays the hot corner again? Not in Detroit, right?

Matt
Matt
Reply to  Grey
4 years ago

@Grey: I wish they’d trade him and he’d get to go back to 3B. I’ve got Gordon and Castellanos moving to the outfield this year with Wil Myers a possibility to move there too.

I’m going to have nothing but outfielders in 2019.

Matt
Matt
Reply to  Grey
4 years ago

@Grey: Haha!!!

Man, I can’t afford all these guys moving to OF. Going to kill me if Myers moves off 1B too. Got any Vodka?

ManorMachine?
ManorMachine?
4 years ago

Is Eugenio Suarez worth keeping for a dollar as a backup in a shallow dynasty?

10 team daily, 8 position players plus Util, 3 or 4 offensive bench spots, starting 3b is Freeman

Jake
Jake
4 years ago

The depth of the position, combined with the general lack of depth at MI and 1b, does have me wanting to wait on 3B. Is that your general outlook on the position? I agree with you I’m all about some Rendon, but it seems you may be better off spending your early picks on other positions.

Test Kitchen
Test Kitchen
4 years ago

Grey,

On Lamb: any hesitancy over his right/left splits? Seems he can’t hit lefties. I like his potential in looking at those 1st half splits but the right/left splits worry me. Is that the type of thing a hitter can work to remedy or it it mostly only in rare cases that something like that gets corrected?

Thanks

Jake
Jake
Reply to  Test Kitchen
4 years ago

@Test Kitchen:

To me if you play in daily leagues, huge L/R splits can be an opportunity for even better numbers from the position. Plug in another one of the other late/cheap 3B whenever Lamb is going against a LHP and you’ve got very strong numbers for cheap (though it does cost a roster spot, but if you have a util spot or two, that’s fine).

swaggerjackers
swaggerjackers
Reply to  Grey
4 years ago

@Grey: To expand on this topic (because it also worries me): How much would you drop Lamb in your rankings for weekly leagues?

If he’s slated to face 3 lefties over a 7 day period, it’s going to be pretty difficult to slot him in your 3B slot for the week no matter how good his righty matchups are.

When the games mattered the most (the playoffs), Lamb was getting benched for Adam Rosales. I feel like that’s a pretty clear signal the DBags don’t trust him.

swaggerjackers
swaggerjackers
Reply to  Grey
4 years ago

@Grey: But in the scenario of facing 3 lefties in a week when you have locked rosters, you’d still rather have someone who’s proven they can get lefties…right?

Just trying to decide if I should scratch him off the list in that draft.

jon
jon
4 years ago

I have Moustakas and Seager for 3B… you think either of them can move into the top 10 ? I don’t wanna have to make a trade if these two will be enough power collectively.

Any idea where Moistakas signs with? Yanks? wishful thinking lol

jon
jon
Reply to  Grey
4 years ago

@Grey:

Top 10 in 3B ranks… I typically try and get a top 10 player from each position… don’t want to go out and acquire another 3B if I have hidden value already.

Dan
Dan
4 years ago

I know you haven’t done OF rankings yet, but I have openings at 1B, 2B, and two Ut slots to fill – how would you rank the following guys…

Hosmer
Pollock
K. Davis
Murphy
Yelich

Thanks!

Dan
Dan
Reply to  Grey
4 years ago

@Grey: Thank you and apologies for posting in wrong spot initially!

Adam
Adam
4 years ago

Nice list! What are your thoughts on this:

10 team, standard 5×5, keep 6

Arenado (could be kept in the 1st forever) and Schwarber (could be kept in 20th in 2019)
for
Rizzo (could be kept in the 1st forever, but probably wouldn’t be because it’s 10 teams) and Acuna (could be kept in 20th in 2019)

Worth the hit to go from Arenado to Rizzo this season in order to get a controllable Acuna?

Adam
Adam
Reply to  Grey
4 years ago

@Grey: Thank you!

a
a
4 years ago

What if I told you over his last 750 at bats Beltre has outproduced Bryant? I didn’t believe it either till I looked it up. Also he is not really a guy I’d expect to get injured as last year was like the first time in his entire career.

a
a
Reply to  Grey
4 years ago

@Grey:

Last 750 at bats ;
Beltre= .316 39hrs, 102r, 132rbis
Bryant = .286 31 hrs 119r 82 rbis
Machado = .253 35hrs 86r 99rbis
Donaldson= .265 46hrs 102r 106rbis
Arenado= .306 41 hrs 109r 142 rbis

a
a
Reply to  Grey
4 years ago

@Grey: I know….I can’t either. It’s super absurd. I looked and was like, “how did bryant only hit 2 home runs in the last 100 at bats of 2016…and the I looked it up, and sure enough he hit 3…and 2 in his last 85 at bats. Sooo 31 in his last 750. It’s not that i rank Beltre higher than those guys, I am not crazy. But I have come to the conclusion we are way underrating him.

BSA
BSA
4 years ago

aaaah. I love this time of year.
The challenge is only being able to keep 6 of my top ten.
Your thoughts? Oh, and I loooove Rizzo having a year with 2nd base eligibility.
Acuna, Albies, Altuve, Bregman, Benintendi, Betts, Rizzo, Brinson, Scherzer, Severino

BSA
BSA
Reply to  Grey
4 years ago

@Grey: See I thought Albies and Severino would make my list and that would leave me to drop Benini. This past year felt like Benini and Betts were the same player but not really knocking any lights out.

BSA
BSA
Reply to  Grey
4 years ago

@Grey: HA! When it comes to my fantasy team I find that I get homey with my sawx – tough drafting and pricing with my head versus heart.
Though I do like knowing that Hippo is a Cardinals homer – helps me drive up the price and eat his budget

kent
kent
4 years ago

When you publish tiered rankings of new positions and you start by stating you already went over the top players in previous posts, you fail to indicate what tier each of those players is in within the position ranks (for example, today’s third baseman, the first tier mentioned is Rendon at number 6, but are all the previous 5 in the same tier?
Also, do you know where I can find the average stats for each position player (first basemen, second basemen, etc) and pitchers (SP, RP) from 2017 (BA, RBI, OB%, etc) so I can determine if a player is above or below the average produced at that position?

Cram It
Cram It
Reply to  kent
4 years ago

@kent: Sano is in the Bregman tier even though he already went over him. Arenado is in the Trea Turner tier if you click on his link.

Matt
Matt
4 years ago

Grey Trade question.

12 team dynasty 7×7 format

I have the 3rd overall spot in the draft where I can take many great prospects such as Luis Robert and so on, but I was offered a deal where I would send Eric Hosmer 3rd overall and a late second rounder for Rendon and two later picks.
My team follows below 20 keepers:

C. J.T. Realmuto
1b. Freddie Freeman
2b. Ian happ
3b. Nolan Arenado
Ss. Carlos Correa
Of. Andrew McCutchen
Of. Jay Bruce
Of. Whit Merrifield
Utility. Eric Hosmer
Utility. Maikel Franco
NA. Kyle Tucker

P. Robbie ray
P. Kyle Hendricks
P Luke Weaver
P. Zack godley
P. Lucas Giolito
P Walker Buehler
NA. Aj Puk
NA. Kolby ALlard

As you saw I currently have freedie freeman for first base and Nolan Arenado at third base so this is strictly a luxury move but what would you do?
Also
Do you think I should look to Move Hosmer and that 3rd overall for an arm instead?

Thanks!

Matt
Matt
Reply to  Matt
4 years ago

@Matt: and I forgot I have Kenta Maeda as well for pitching

Looking forward to the response!

Matt
Matt
Reply to  Grey
4 years ago

@Grey: should I try and go for a good arm? What value do you think I could get with a Hosmer and the pick package?

Matt
Matt
Reply to  Grey
4 years ago

@Grey: thank you

OaktownSteve
OaktownSteve
4 years ago

How you doin’, Albringer? January ball talk always good.

I discovered a weirdish interesting mostly meaningless thing the other day. Over the last two years Jake Lamb 366 R+RBI, 59 HR, .248. Adam Duvall 365 R+RBI, 64 HR, .246. Duvall’s early ADP seems quite cheap.

By the way, why such a low AB projection on Chapman? Also his value goes way up in leagues where showing off ridiculous arm is a category.

OaktownSteve
OaktownSteve
Reply to  Grey
4 years ago

@Grey: his glove will play every day. I’d guess without injury he gets his 550.

J-FOH
J-FOH
Reply to  OaktownSteve
4 years ago

@OaktownSteve: steve. We were trying to remember the old commenter who would make obscure literary references and refer to his computer as the outer. I think he also would talk up hitchhikers guide … who was he?

J-FOH
J-FOH
Reply to  J-FOH
4 years ago

@J-FOH: *I mean puter, stupid auto correct

Jake
Jake
4 years ago

Seems like you’re discounting Lamb because of those splits. Logic would say first/second half splits don’t really mean anything in the grand scheme of things but the fact that 2016 and 2017 have almost identical splits does make you think.

In both seasons, his first half BABIP dropped ~.100+ points (went from .332 first half to .227 second half last year). On the plus side, his BB% stayed high (actually went up in the second half) and his K% dropped slightly. Even his hard hit%s didn’t really waver.

Throw in that he hits cleanup in a decent lineup in a great hitter’s park and he seems like a nice buy if the consensus is that he’s outside the top 12 3B. I’d struggle taking any of those guys 8-14 before him – even more so in an OBP league.

Big League Wood
Big League Wood
4 years ago

Hey Coach,

What are your thoughts in regards to an Arenado and Dee Gordon combination for Rounds 1 and 2 ???

Hawk
Hawk
Reply to  Big League Wood
4 years ago

@Big League Wood:

In general, I’d avoid taking anyone in Round 2 who is a negative in two categories (Gordon – HR/RBI).

Hawk
Hawk
Reply to  Hawk
4 years ago

@Hawk:

And Gordon isn’t just a negative in those categories, he’s a SERIOUS negative in those categories. SAGNOF, baby, SAGNOF

Big League Wood
Big League Wood
Reply to  Grey
4 years ago

@Grey:
I think those two in combination in the 15 team NFBC draft and hold checks a lot of boxes

Big League Wood
Big League Wood
Reply to  Grey
4 years ago

@Grey:

Yeah. Thanks

Jay Dee
Jay Dee
Reply to  Big League Wood
4 years ago

@Big League Wood: @Big League Wood: Sadly Dees baseline is a top 30 player so it fits OUR game- Its a good safe combo to start

Duda Want to Build a Snowman?
Duda Want to Build a Snowman?
4 years ago

This year seems more conducive to the stars and scrubs format than usual–so many guys in 11+ I’d be happy to own, who can potentially jump to top 8 (Devers, Gallo, Cast)–particularly great in shallow roster leagues where there’s no CI/MI . . . a lot of these guys can probably be snagged for $1 — $2 in those once everyone else has drafted their 3B.

I noticed Cast has a better projection than Devers, but is ranked a couple spots below. Is that because we’re loving Devers’ upside to go HAM and put up a .295 30 season in the middle of the Sox lineup with the counting stats that go with it?

Jay Dee
Reply to  Duda Want to Build a Snowman?
4 years ago

@Duda Want to Build a Snowman?: @Duda Want to Build a Snowman?: Disagree, with so much 2nd 3rd rd depth this might be a great year to get 5 of them rather than 2 first rders with your auction budget- Then again I play nothing shallow so that might be out of perspective for you-

Goldy Arrenado or
Votto Sale Rendon Domingo Kenley start………

Jay Dee
Jay Dee
Reply to  Duda Want to Build a Snowman?
4 years ago

@Duda Want to Build a Snowman?: @Duda Want to Build a Snowman?: Disagree, with so much 2nd 3rd rd depth this might be a great year to get 5 of them rather than 2 first rders with your auction budget- Then again I play nothing shallow so that might be out of perspective for you-

Goldy Arrenado or
Votto Sale Rendon Domingo Kenley start………

cmutimmah
cmutimmah
4 years ago

Literally asking for a friend:

Keep 1:

Sano for 2 more years
Cruz for 4 more years
Happ for 3 more years

I think Sano is the easy answer, Cruz for the best floor, and Happ to clean the floors.

Others kept:
Rizzo, Betts, Gary Sanchez, Just Dong, Erv the perv Santana (unfortunately, Happ and Erv are his best keep-able pitchers on his staff)

The format is H2H and there are 15 hitting and 15 pitching categories… lots of moving parts, but from a perspective standpoint, the power 5 hitting and pitching roto categories tend to get drafted earliest…

Thoughts?

Also Bonus Jonas question – Happ vs Santana, Santana gets the nod, no?

cmutimmah
cmutimmah
Reply to  Grey
4 years ago

@Grey: Ervin Santana

Willy Mo
Willy Mo
4 years ago

I hope the yankees go with Andujar. I feel like if they decide to go with him he in April he should be set all year. I think cashman is more concerned with the rotation than addressing third base but who knows, maybe they sign frazier or somthing. Andujar could surprise love his progression in the minors as a hitter.

Justin
Justin
4 years ago

Pablo over Wilmer…pshhh…whats wrong with you?!?

apoopaday
apoopaday
4 years ago

Hey Grey, I love how the title says top 20 but you wrote top 50 lol.
Anyway I want your opinion on keeper.
12 team keep 3 6×6 with OBP
My candidates are Harper1, Betts1, Trea2, Lindor3
Can keep at last years draft pick which are the numbers above.
I was thinking Harper Trea Lindor but realized Trea loses his eligibility at 2B,OF so I’d be keeping 2 SS and my league runs 1 SS, 2 UT and no MI,CI.
And if I keep 2 first rounders that costs 2nd pick and 4th pick, so I am not able to keep Turner.
But you did say keeping elite player is better.
So basically right now I’m thinking either Harper, Betts, Lindor (lose 4th pick) OR Harper, Trea, Lindor.

Your thought?
Thanks always

AP
AP
4 years ago

From all of the position rankings so far I am starting to gather that I am going to own Freeman and Rendon all over the place in 2018….

Greydalf the WHIPzard
Greydalf the WHIPzard
4 years ago

Great article as always, Grey.

Problem is, whoever you sold pop-up space to has whipped it out and is going to town, like that one guy on the city bus. My browser blocked 23 pop-ups while reading this page, and that doesn’t count the ones it didn’t block. It feels like it’s been ramping up lately. I understand the need to generate revenue, but 20+ pop-ups on a single page is a bit excessive.

Good luck!

batflix
batflix
Reply to  Greydalf the WHIPzard
4 years ago
Greydalf the WHIPzard
Greydalf the WHIPzard
Reply to  Grey
4 years ago

@Grey: I appreciate it, sir. Sorry to be whiny about something other than a ranking order I disagree with!

Kas
Kas
4 years ago

Grey,

Would you take Rendon over Ozuna? I’m trying to select my keepers for the 2018 season and Iits down to these two. I’m leaning Rendon, but I figured I’d ask you for your opinion. Thanks.

Malicious Phenoms
Malicious Phenoms
Reply to  Kas
4 years ago

@Kas:
Rendon

kingforaday151
kingforaday151
4 years ago

Grey,
I play in a 10 keeper, 12 team league that allows only one position per player, the position that majority games were played last year. I’m doubled up on 1B, SS, 3B with quality keeper options….who of each would you lean towards keeping and who would you try and flip, next 3 or 4 years in mind….?

1B) Rizzo or Bellinger
SS) Correa or Turner
3B) Bryant or Bregman (I know Bryant’s cute, but I got a Bregman crush)

Other guys I’m planning to keep are Altuve, Benintendi, and I’m on the fence about Ozuna and Willy Contreras….Hendricks/McCullers/Nelson/Ray/Tailion are my pitchers so my hope is to flip one or more of the guys above for at least one top 10 starter.

Malicious Phenoms
Malicious Phenoms
Reply to  kingforaday151
4 years ago

@kingforaday151:
Can u do this:

1B – Rizzo
2B – Turner
SS – Correa
3B – Bregman
OF – Bryant

kingforaday151
kingforaday151
Reply to  Malicious Phenoms
4 years ago

@Malicious Phenoms: Can not….Turner played most games at SS, Bryant played most at 3B.

cj
cj
Reply to  kingforaday151
4 years ago

@kingforaday151: why do keeper questions always seem to be a variation of “I have every first rounder and I’ve won my league before it starts. .. but who do I keeeeeep???”

kingforaday151
kingforaday151
Reply to  cj
4 years ago

@cj: Format is a bit unique….wish it was that simple. One UTIL spot and no MI/CI, so I can’t play all those guys in a given week. Couple that with mediocre pitching, which is why I’d like to flip a couple of them. Offense killed last year, but you can’t win ROTO with 50 points.

Jose
Jose
4 years ago

Grey,
On a new Scoresheet team that I am rebuilding (targeting 2020) . I just traded Lamb for Fenando Tatis Jr. When the defensive ranges came came he was killed, apparently he most be a butcher defensible at 3B, the average 3B range is 2.65, Nolan Arenado is 2.77, Anthony Rendon is 2.71, J. Gyorko is 2.71, Lamb came out at 2.60 a negative .05 and the fact that he can’t hit lefty pitching. Last year he hit .144 and over the last three he has hit .166.

Tatis Jr. gives me the SS of the near future and eventually a 3B with good power that will be ready when I will be ready to compete in 2020.

Tigres
Tigres
4 years ago

Grey! how about I skip Scherzer and pick Rendon instead and then BOOM it’s like Rendon’s in the top 20. Easy, breezy, covergirl!