After going over the top 10 for 2018 fantasy baseball and the top 20 for 2018 fantasy baseball (clickbait!), it’s now time to turn our lonely eyes to you, Mr. Robinson Chirinos.  To paraphrase The Refreshments from their should-be smash hit, Fonder and Blonder, “Who said absence makes the heart grow fonder.  Pitches are thrown to catchers, but that doesn’t make my heart grow fonder.”  Later in that song, they sing, “I’ll be scratchin’ it down,” which sounds like it applies to all baseball players.  Or as the rhyming dictionary has never said, applies to oranges.  Any hoo!  The projections noted in the post are my own, and I mention where tiers start and stop.  I also mention a bunch of hullabaloo, so let’s get to it.  Anyway, here’s the top 20 catchers for 2018 fantasy baseball:

1. Gary Sanchez – This is a new tier.  This tier goes from here until here.  I call this tier, “Gary Sanchez is the best ATM.”  Of course, ATM in this case means at this moment.  Not what it usually means for a Dirty Sanchez, which is ass-to-mouth.  *intern whispers in my ear*  An ATM is a bank cash dispenser?  Are you saying you’re going ass-to-mouth with a bank teller?  *intern whispers again*  Are you saying those machines in front of banks are called Ass-to-Mouths?  Why are you walking away pissed off?  I was asking you a question!  As for Gary Sanchez, I’m not drafting him, watch the video for more.  2018 Projections:  83/30/95/.279/2 in 527 ABs

2. Willson Contreras – This is a new tier.  This tier goes from here until Molina.  I call this tier, “‘To yacht’ is to bunting as ‘to catch’ is to punting.”  We’re still punting at this point.  The difference between the 2nd ranked catcher last year (Molina) and the 10th (B. “In” McCann) was $13.  The difference between the 2nd best OF and 10th best was $18.  The difference between the 2nd 2B and 10th was $15.  Difference for shortstops was $15.  Difference between 10th best catcher (Still in McCann) and 20th best was $5.  Difference between 10th best 1B and 20th best was $11.  This pattern continues through the positions.  There’s very little difference between top catchers and ones you can grab off waivers in mixed leagues, or just draft very late.  I haven’t even mentioned the total influx nature of catchers.  Catchers have a bad case of influxenza.  In 2016, Lucroy was the best catcher in baseball, last year he was 25th best.  The position is demanding so injuries happen, or guys just sit out every third day.  Don’t fall into the position scarcity trap.  Contreras is solid, but likely not that different than, say, Austin Barnes.  2018 Projections:  73/24/82/.276/6 in 504 ABs

3. J.T. Realmuto – He feels on the verge of being one injury or down year from Gary Sanchez away from being the top ranked catcher.  If I had to fault anything, and it’s really nitpicking as they say at the dog groomer, Realmuto might’ve fell a little in love with the home run, and his line drives were down, so instead of being a 15/10/.310 catcher, he might be a 17/10/.280 one.  Though, he’s heading into his prime and I could easily see him being a 20/10/.300 catcher instead of either of the first two options.  In other words, he could be solid-boring, with emphasis on either solid or boring.  2018 Projections:  86/19/58/.283/9 in 521 ABs

4. Salvador Perez – If I weren’t all about the catcher punt, Perez is actually good value compared to, say, Contreras or Sanchez.  Last year, Sal P. had 27 HRs and 80 RBIs in only 129 games, due to an injury.  He usually is one of those catchers that catches upwards to 140 games a year.  Then again (I’m about to reverse everything I just wrote), Perez is getting older (ain’t we all?) and might not be up for those 140+ games played seasons anymore.  Either way, I’m still punting.  2018 Projections:  55/26/75/.264 in 510 ABs

5. Buster Posey – It’s likely blasphemy how low I’ve ranked Posey.  Or at least to the Cal bears in San Fran, and I’m not talking Berkeley alumni.  However, if the trends equal the ends, he’s going to be a present-day Joe Mauer at catcher.  A fan favorite who inspires women to wear bulky sweaters to games and barely hits ten homers with a decent average.  That .320 average last year was buoyed by a high BABIP (.347), but he did up his line drive rate and hold steady on other peripherals, so I think his average can buoy again.  But there will never be another David Buoy.  Then again, Buster Posey will never be a Young American again either.  Or be Under Pressure at the plate, thanks to the Buster Posey rule.  2018 Projections:  69/12/80/.309/3 in 509 ABs

6. Yadier Molina – This is weird (not really), but five of the top six catchers are all slated to hit cleanup or fifth.  It’s weird (a little, but still not really) because none of these guys, aside from Sanchez, are really cleanup hitters, and even Sanchez is likely better suited for the three-hole with Judge hitting 4th.  I told you weird (not weird).  Speaking of weird (not weird), Molina’s had a bizarre offensive career.  If every player were Molina, we’d have no idea what anyone was going to do from year to year.  His home runs over the last seven years:  14, 22, 12, 7, 4, 8, 18.  Trying to find the median there is the world’s hardest SAT math question.  Don’t say 7!  It’s a trick!  Molina’s averages and steals are also as predictive as Al Gore’s weight compared to how much meat Al eats.  “I’m now going vegan.”  *five months later* “And now I weigh 275 more pounds.”  2018 Projections:  54/16/67/.266/6 in 472 ABs

7. Wilson Ramos – This is a new tier.  This tier goes from here until Zunino.  I call this tier, “Bingo Bango Bongo.”  We’re done punting at this point.  By the way, I was surprised at no point during the football season someone didn’t play the National Anthem in the middle of a play to get a player with the ball to kneel.  “Ooh, he’s running down the sidelines and could get a touchdown!  Wait, the PA is playing the National Anthem and he’s stopped at the twenty to kneel!”  Any hoo!  Now, we’re onto golf.  Bingo Bango Bongo is a game where you get a point for the first player to get on the green, another point for in the hole, and some other crap.  I don’t know, I don’t play golf.  This Bingo Bango Bongo tier doesn’t relate to a golfing green, it’s whichever player is available closest to draft spot 220 overall.  Yes, that’s about how deep we are now, and it’s time to draft.  As for Ramos, I go over him in the video.  2018 Projections:  52/21/68/.254 in 445 ABs

8. Welington Castillo – This offseason I said this, “Signed with the White Sox, where he will (ington) take over catcher duties and I said duties and now I’m laughing.  Screw you, ‘duties’ word, you are too funny.  As of now, Boeuf Welington will be batting fifth behind Avisail and Abreu, but that could change with offseason moves.  Either way, I don’t see Castillo’s value getting a dramatic boon.  Hehe, boon sounds like boobs and poon combined.  Nice boon!  And now I’m arrested.”  And that’s me quoting me!  2018 Projections: 56/21/62/.241 in 407 ABs

9. Mike Zunino – He had a breakout season last year without suddenly going by the name, Michael Zunino.  See, Nicholas Castellanos, it’s possible!  Last year looks like it was the year to own Zunino, so if you have a DeLorean at your disposal, go for it!  The power is real, but he hit .251 with a .355 BABIP with a 36.8% strikeout rate.  That makes me want to snort nerd laugh.  Snert?  2018 Projections:  51/27/69/.217/1 in 446 ABs

10. Jorge Alfaro – This is a new tier.  This tier goes from here until d’Arnaud.  I call this tier, “Black Crowes or Beastie Boys?”  I’ve long contended that when the Beastie Boys first emerged, they were the most surprising group to have lasting appeal.  (You Gotta) Fight For Your Right (To Party) screams one-hit wonder.  Even the parentheses are doofy.  Then they went and had a long career.  On the other hand, Black Crowes had a huge first studio album.  They were about to become the saviors of ROCK AND ROLL!  Well, rock ‘n roll is now dead.  By the tier name, I mean these guys don’t have long track records, but will they be the Black Crowes or Beasties?   As for Alfaro, already went over my Jorge Alfaro fantasy.  It was scribbled on a window at Harvard.  2018 Projections:  43/18/61/.232/3 in 507 ABs

11. Austin Hedges – I owned Hedges last year.  One such hedge was, “I told you to draft Odor in every league, but it’s not my fault he was bad, he was unlucky.”  I also owned Austin Hedges, and I can confidently say that if he wasn’t benched at one point I would’ve dropped him anyway, and this was a deep league.  He was diagnosed with a concussion in July, but I’m not sure that explains how awful his 18-homer season was last year.  He had the 12th worst OPS last year, a .262 OBP (third worst in majors), a .214 average (12th worst), but only the 22nd worst strikeout rate.  Lowercase yay!   He could back into a Zunino-type season, or he could back into a dumpster and no one would know the difference.  2018 Projections:  41/21/58/.215/3 in 408 ABs

12. James McCann – J. “In” McCann just doesn’t have the same ring, but I didn’t lower him because of that.  *looks guilty AF*  Okay, maybe a lowered him a little because of that!  Ugh, I can’t stand your interrogating!  If catchers weren’t boring as crizzap, McCann might’ve received a sleeper post from me.  He cut his strikeouts by 7%, had a slightly low BABIP for him and still hit .253 (hey, for catchers that’s not bad), and he’s only 27.  He made a bunch of lousy contact, however, and, while I do think he could have a five+ steal season, a 20+ homer season seems to be a pipe dream like Pookie from New Jack City might have. 2018 Projections:  56/16/61/.260/3 in 481 ABs

13. Travis d’Arnaud – Yeah, d’Ude has been getting more rope than a rodeo clown.  That’s right, when sabermetricians talk about Barrels with d’Arnaud, they’re not talking about him making solid contact, they’re talking about how often this clown jumps inside a barrel.  2018 Projections:  42/17/60/.261 in 383 ABs

14. Jonathan Lucroy – This is a new tier.  This tier goes from here until Iannetta.  I call this tier, “Dirty old men.”  I was thisclose to putting Molina in this tier, and I could see any of the catchers in this tier ranked where Molina is currently and him moving down here by season’s end.  Am I saying it’s a toss up between these catchers?  Yes, like tossing cookies.  You have to remember the difference between a 6th ranked catcher and a 13th ranked catcher is a two-week hot streak.  As for Lucroy, well, speaking of Molina, if Lucroy takes Yadier’s route in his career, Lucroy will hit over 20 homers again after going from 24 homers to six last year.  Lucroy was so limp last year, a Palmeiro-sized shipment of Viagra sent to him in Coors couldn’t even ignite Lucroy.  In 142 ABs in Coors, he hit two homers.  Scooter Gennett just called, he’s hanging out with Mark Whiten and they’re laughing at you.   When Lucroy signs, I could move him and his projections.  UPDATE:  Remember when Gary Sanchez realized he had a, uh, nut allergy to foul tips?  That’s the hit Lucroy’s value takes going to Oakland.  He could barely hit a home run in Coors, and now he’s up against it in the field MC Hammer and Charley O built?  Well, I wasn’t owning him prior to this, and I’m definitely not touching him now.  2018 Projections:  54/12/53/.273/3 in 435 ABs

15. Yasmani Grandal –  It must be the air in SoCal, because Dave Roberts pulled a patented The Sciosciapath move last year by replacing a perfectly decent catcher (at least for fantasy).  Grandal had 50/22/58/.247 in 129 games, then, by the time of the World Series, Yasmani was only seen on a milk carton.  Since Grandal also made five million dollars last year, he was eligible to be on a carton of the top 2% milk.  UPDATE:  Dave Roberts announced Grandal would be the starting catcher, against at least righties.  I.e., the Dodgers would’ve won the World Series if they started Grandal.  For more, see Austin Barnes’ update.  2018 Projections:  49/20/64/.249 in 413 ABs

16. Evan Gattis –  El Osso Buco had reverse splits year, never getting a veal for lefties, but he’s likely to braise his average vs. lefties.  We’ll see what marrow holds.  This was brought you by the patrons of the Feast of St. Rocco.  Playing time is currently muddled for Gattis like a sprig of mint in a mojito, but, if he’s healthy, I’d guess he gets 400+ ABs with his usual power.  You’re obviously drafting him on the chance he backs into one of his 25-home run seasons, but after last year, confidence is Nilla on the vanilla.  2018 Projections:  45/18/58/.249 in 412 ABs

17. Brian McCann – Earlier I was talking about how McCann was the 1oth best catcher last year.  His stats:  47/18/62/.241/1.  You might B. “In” McCann, but you’re not going to luck into a Sanchez.  2018 Projections:  41/16/54/.244 in 391 ABs

18. Russell Martin – If the first half of this list had a random commonality of batting cleanup or fifth, this tier is like, “Don’t worry, guys, I can turn this lineup over.”  Well, except for Lucroy, he should hit higher than 8th (maybe, depending on his team).  My favorite Martin is Lawrence.  My favorite Martin who is within driving distance of St. Lawrence College is Russell, but it’s a narrow field.  2018 Projections:  50/18/59/.224/2 in 420 ABs

19. Chris Iannetta – He’s taken the path of every catcher to ever leave the judgmental eyes of The Sciosciapath.  Last year, he hit 17 homers, after a bunch of middling in the middle of Orange County years.  Now, he returns where he found the most success, Coors.  Iannetta still hit below .200 one year in Coors, so it’s not the cure-all, but it’s worth a flyer to see if it’s a tad curative.  2018 Projections:  41/18/54/.242 in 329 ABs

20. Tyler Flowers – This is a new tier.  This tier goes from here until Maldonado.  I call this tier, “You in a two-catcher league?  Okay, then have at it.”  The tier name is pretty self-explanatory.  I would’ve drafted a first catcher by now in a mixed league.  If you’re in a two-catcher league, draft another guy in this tier.   As for Flowers, I go over him in the video.  2018 Projections:  51/14/54/.263 in 374 ABs

21. Robinson Chirinos – Uh-oh, Chirinos! finally broke out last year with 17 HRs and a .255 average in only 88 games.  If he were 24 years old, I’d be all over him, but he’s going to be 34 years old this year.  Yeah, uh-oh, indeed.  2018 Projections:  41/15/50/.240/1 in 351 ABs

22. Alex Avila – Signed with the Diamondbacks.  Makes me want to sing Magic Stick by 50 Cent because the Diamondbacks got the Alex stick.  He gets the baddest licks.  (What?  What?)  Allllllex.  Last year, he had 14 homers in 112 at-bats, but that was with a HR/FB% that was way above his norm.  Avila feels like one of those players that gets ~15 homers in 450 ABs or 120 ABs.  (What?  What?)  Allllllex.  2018 Projections:  43/15/51/.236 in 364 ABs

23. Matt Wieters – Was surprised to see him exercise his $10 million option.  Kidding.  Of course, he exercised it.  He’s getting $10 million to suck.  He’s like the greatest porn star of all time.  2018 Projections:  44/14/55/.231/1 in 418 ABs

24. Christian VazquezSandy Leon bums out my Vazquez enthusiasm — envazquesiasm?  Hmm, maybe not.  Leon doesn’t bum it out that much though, because neither of the Red Sox catchers seem like they can hit ten homers if he were hitting off a tee placed at 2nd base.  2018 Projections:  51/8/49/.274/8 in 434 ABs

25. Martin Maldonado – In the last bit of news for Maldonado from September, it said that he was lifted for a pinch hitter in a close game, after homering twice.  The Sciosciapath is:  If every crazy move Joe Maddon did went wrong.  2018 Projections:  39/15/44/.212 in 409 ABs

26. Chance Sisco – This is a new tier.  This tier goes from here until Joseph.  I call this tier, “(Fill-in player’s name) just hit a homer on my bench because I never know when this motherfudger is playing.”  From this tier someone will emerge who lucks into everyday playing time due to an injury to their platoon partner, and also from this tier:  a bunch of vomit.  As for Sisco, tomorrow starts here.  Or tomorrow Caleb Joseph is playing and you’re cursing Showalter for not playing Sisco.  2018 Projections:  41/12/44/.251/2 in 363 ABs

27. Francisco Mejia – Unlike other guys in this tier, Mejia doesn’t have a platoon partner, he has a starting job in Triple-A.  As of now, at least.  That could change in Spring Training, because in front of him is Yawn Gomes and Roberto Perez, who I think is a Latin way of saying “placeholder.”  2018 Projections:  35/14/39/.271/3 in 343 ABs

28. Austin Barnes – Hard to (handle now!) say how close Grandal is in the rearview mirror.  My guess is Barnes won the starting catcher job in September and is not about to give it back, but if he struggles in April, Grandal’s the starter again.  UPDATE:  Dave Roberts announced that Barnes had not won the starting catcher job in the playoffs, i.e., the Dodgers lost the World Series because of Austin Barnes.  2018 Projections:  38/7/32/.282/4 in 274 ABs

29. Yan Gomes – Like the Dakota Pipeline, today I am putting the Indians together.  Gomes is also on the outside looking in on Roberto Perez, as of right now, but once Terry Francona stops drinking Tito’s vodka that should change.  2018 Projections:  36/11/40/.242 in 289 ABs

30. Carson Kelly – He’s the heir to Yadier’s throne, Yadiheir?  That’s not bad actually.  I don’t know how much Kelly plays this year, but I bet if Molina goes down with an injury, there’s going to mad rush to the waiver wire grabbing Kelly like he’s handing out fudge.  2018 Projections:  22/7/26/.270 in 201 ABs

31. Stephen Vogt – No foolsies, here’s how I ended up ranking Vogt here.  *ranks Vogt 18th overall, looks at his stats, moves him down five spots, thinks again, moves him down another five spots, lowers head on desk, falls asleep, dreams about Giancarlo carrying me in his arms over a puddle, wakes in a drool puddle*  Frank Voila!  2018 Projections:  33/10/37/.263/1 in 272 ABs

32. Manny Pina – I wonder if he’d do better on another team.  Not because he’d get more ABs, but because he’s on the Brewers and his name sounds like a concession stand at a Jimmy Buffett concert.  2018 Projections:  30/9/34/.268/3 in 241 ABs

33. Cameron Rupp – If he were on a team with a DH, I think he could be as valuable as Gattis.  As it stands, or crouches, as the case with a catcher is, Rupp’s gonna struggle to get 220 ABs.  2018 Projections: 25/11/30/.235/1 in 208 ABs

34. Devin Mesoraco – Being behind Tucker Barnhart on the depth chart is ugly, which I guess is appropriate for Mesoraco.  2018 Projections:  29/11/36/.226/1 in 220 ABs

35. Kurt Suzuki – If he didn’t explode for 19 homers last year, I wouldn’t have even ranked him at all.  Before last year, he was averaging 6 homers a year and now, you can put him out to pasture; he’s buried behind Flowers.  2018 Projections:  25/7/28/.277 in 221 ABs

36. Sandy Leon – The treasure of the Sandy Leon is he’s solid for the 250 ABs he gets.  That he only gets 250 ABs is the booby trap in the treasure.  Of course, ‘booby trap’ is said like Short Round, though, so it’s still kinda fun.  2018 Projections:  32/8/36/.243 in 247 ABs

37. Caleb Joseph – In an interview, Joseph said about catching, “A catcher has to be [a psychologist]. There are certain guys who need a pat on the back, and there are certain guys who need a kick in the pants.”  Now we know his PhD isn’t a Player Hitting Degree.  2018 Projections:  28/8/34/.250 in 221 ABs

38. Tucker Barnhart – This is a new tier.  This tier goes from here until the end of the list.  This tier I call, “You didn’t punt; you fell asleep during your draft and auto-picked.”  These guys have the starting job for their team, and I have no more positives to say about them.  As for Barnhart, he’s the starter in front of Mesoraco.  The Reds should just use a platoon called Barn-Hard-to-look-at.  2018 Projections:  25/5/38/.267/3 in 353 ABs

39. Francisco Cervelli – How many points do you get in your league for pitch framing?  Oh, wow, that much?  Then draft Roberto Perez, and not Cervelli.  2018 Projections:  34/3/29/.242/3 in 342 ABs

40. Jeff Mathis – I wanted to rank Herrmann, but there was only room for Mathis.  Plus, I didn’t want to deal with a gender-neutral bathroom.  2018 Projections:  27/3/30/.220/1 in 287 ABs

41. Roberto Perez – “I’m not sure if Luis is coming to the wedding.”  “Oh, really?  Okay, well, for now just put the name Roberto Perez down on the table chart.”  If you’re reading all 3500 words of this post, you’ll know what I’m saying.  2018 Projections:  27/5/34/.211/1 in 264 ABs

42. Tom Murphy – Last year, he hit 26 homers!  Wait, that’s not what he did, that’s what we expected him to do.  Murphy only had 26 plate appearances last year and had one hit.  Now, he might not even be in a blahtoon.  2018 Projections:  31/12/38/.212 in 223 ABs

43. Jason Castro – This guy is the answer to the question, “What makes you think the Twins aren’t trying to win?”  2018 Projections:  37/11/34/.214/2 in 431 ABs

44. Tony Wolters – If hindsight is 20/20, you’ll know to stay away from Wolters.  2018 Projections:  32/3/38/.242/3 in 301 ABs

  1. TroyKlauder

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    Love the video!

  2. AL KOHOLIC says:
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    Loving Sanchez but overall useful numbers can be had

  3. Dodger Rabbit says:
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    Catchers stats! … yuck. Hoping Alex Avila signs somewhere he can start.

    Thanks for all your number-crunching. Greyt work, as always.
    Looking forward to 1b tomorrow!

    • Grey

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      @Dodger Rabbit: Thanks! Yeah, took Avila out yesterday since he hadn’t signed yet

  4. Duda Want to Build a Snowman? says:
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    Love the vid!

  5. Nitro says:
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    7 Keepers in a HTH 10 team points league. Which 2 do you leave off?

    Degrom
    Kluber
    Archer
    G Sanchez
    Votto
    T Turner
    Correa
    JD Martinez
    Bregman

    • Grey

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      @Nitro: Archer and Bregman, but if you have too many of one position it could change things…

      • Nitro says:
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        @Grey: thanks

        • Grey

          Grey says:
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          No problem

  6. Saints says:
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    Great stuff especially love your video thats great :)

  7. Forced to retain Sanchez in one league, as a later round bargain keeper. Pleased with the value, but just feels contrary the Razzball bylaws. Diggin’ the video. Almost looks like claymation. Can we get a Davey & Goliath cameo for when you rank the closers?

    • FrankGrimes says:
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      @zombie:
      Grey and Ted! Haha.

        • FrankGrimes says:
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          @Grey:

          -Heeeey Greeeeey should I draft a catcher early?

          -Only if you want to make baby Jesus cry Ted.

          • Grey

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            Can we have Ted in a nativity scene with all catchers as the Wise Men?

    • Grey

      Grey says:
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      @zombie: Ha, thanks! You are violating Razz bylaws tho…

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    Does strategy change at all in a 15 team (1 catcher) points league?

    I invested in catcher last season for first time (Sanchez), and it was pretty nice actually getting points from the position on a weekly basis. I think this year it will take a top 2 round pick to get him.

    • Grey

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      @SWCMinor: Where’d you draft him? Bet there was someone else you could’ve drafted that would’ve been even better…

      • SWCMinor says:
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        81st overall….he went after Posey and LuCroy.

        My suspicion is that he’ll be top 30 this year. I’m passing, was just saying it was nice to have him. Was willing to reconsider with your seal of approval.

        Thanks for the rankings.

        • Grey

          Grey says:
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          Gotcha, No problem

  9. los locos says:
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    Snowing in Philly, but every morning reading these articles like Spring to my eyes… Catcher already.. Can’t wait for another great season you bring us Grey…

    • Grey

      Grey says:
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      @los locos: I brought you joy, now maybe you go get me a cheesesteak…

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    Steamer loves Gattis this year. Projections better than everyone except Sanchez. Too optimistic for sure, but I’m thinking a cheap gamble at this lean position if he does become the everyday DH on one of the best teams.

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      @Darrell: My feelings as well. He will probably be more expensive than, say, Ramos . . . but if he’s the full-time DH like people are saying, hard to see him hitting less than 25 dongs.

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      @Darrell: My feelings as well. He will probably be more expensive than, say, Ramos . . . but if he’s the full-time DH like people are saying, hard to see him hitting less than 25 dongs.

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      @Darrell: My feelings as well. He will probably be more expensive than, say, Ramos . . . but if he’s the full-time DH like people are saying, hard to see him hitting less than 25 dongs.

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        @Duda Want to Build a Snowman?: So sorry, no clue what it did that three times! (swear I only clicked once)

    • Grey

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      @Darrell: I saw he was ranked in the top 40 at CBS — Not even joking…

    • Grey

      Grey says:
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      @Darrell: Sorry, 41st overall!

      • Duda Want to Build a Snowman? says:
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        @Grey: Jesus! Nevermind then…

  11. Duda Want to Build a Snowman? says:
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    FYI – Ohtani is officially 1 player, dual eligible at SP and DH (eventually OF) in CBS leagues. Too bad that’s my weekly lineup league . . . hopefully they use similar rules in ESPN and Yahoo.

  12. mc2Rumba says:
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    The puns in the Gattis blurb had me rolling. Now I’m jonesing for some veal parm. Thanks Grey!

  13. Fungazi says:
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    Good videos! Keith Hernandez always cracks me up.

  14. Ben says:
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    Love the videos! Quick q— keep forever 5×5 14 team league. Which set would you rather have:

    Bellinger, Schoop, Rendon

    Bregman, Abreu, Buxton

    Bellinger seems like he’d tip the scales with so much upside. But is Bregman close enough that Buxton upside makes things interesting?

    • Grey

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      @Ben: Thanks! Rendon

    • Hawk says:
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      @Ben:

      I don’t see how you choose anyone but Bellinger in a keep forever 14 team league and I don’t even like him that much.

  15. FrankGrimes says:
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    44 catchers ?? Who knew?
    Honestly I only read the first three blurbs…
    But I clicked around a bunch cha$ching!

  16. BSA says:
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    Love your catchers being like scabs approach, really hard to abide by when they go through their suckiness or injury – but at the end of the day the catcher doesn’t make you or break you.

    • Grey

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      @BSA: Yeah, exactly

  17. Old School Brother says:
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    Holy Cow, I had no clue Chirinos was that old!

    I’m still high on him this year, he’s going to start 120 games and hit 20-23 homers. And that’s me quoting me!

  18. Damn Scots! says:
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    At least one other person is familiar with the very short, but amazing discography of The Refreshments. Ever listen to any Roger Clyne and The Peacemakers?

    Oh yeah, Catchers are terrible.

    Oh yeah II, thanks for the rankings!

    • Grey

      Grey says:
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      @Damn Scots!: Just searched my iTunes, don’t see any Peacemakers… I bet Rudy knows them, he turned me on to Refreshments…

      • Damn Scots! says:
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        @Grey: It’s great stuff. The lineup has gone through several changes, but the constant is Roger Clyne, lead singer of The Refreshments. The first couple albums from early 2000’s have a couple members from The Gin Blossoms, they’re all from AZ.

        • Grey

          Grey says:
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          One album you recommend more than others?

          • Damn Scots! says:
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            @Grey: Tough one, but I would start with the first one Honky Tonk Union which is a little more Southwest Country (if that’s a genre?) and then give Americano a try which is a little more Refreshments-esque.

            • Grey

              Grey says:
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              I do like Old 97’s, is that Southwest Country?

              • Damn Scots! says:
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                @Grey: Yep, that’s a pretty good comp for Honky Tonk Union I think.

                • Grey

                  Grey says:
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                  Oh, then I have high hopes for them…

                  • Damn Scots! says:
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                    @Grey: To bring it full circle back to baseball, the Peacemakers also are responsible for D-backs Swing, which is played at the end of D-backs games. Unconfirmed reports say this is Au Shizz’s favorite song!

                    • Grey

                      Grey says:
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                      No shizz? Damn, small world from The Refreshments… Now I wanna listen to Banditos…

  19. Random Collmenter says:
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    If Mejia wins the starting job in the spring, where will he move up in your rankings? Thanks!

      • El Marco says:
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        @Grey: in that scenario, Alfaro or Mejia??

        • Grey

          Grey says:
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          Coin flip, I’d likely go Alfaro

    • swaggerjackers says:
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      @Random Collmenter: He won’t win the job out of spring. Not with 2 catchers in front of him and Jose shifting back over to 3rd. I’d put money on that.

  20. Q says:
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    Good stuff, dude.

    Gotta comment on Steaner, which is prolly the best system, but…..

    ….they have Evan Gattis listed as, like, the #2 catcher. The only reason is bc they’re projecting him to get full time at bats as the DH.

    Don’t we hear this about a catcher every year??? That he’s the guy to get bc he will have more PAs than the other guys?

    Has it ever ACTUALLY worked out that way? Meaning we knew it in the preseason and it came true? I can’t remember that ever happening and yet, multiple analysts are throwing Gattis up there. And of course, it won’t happen, because the Astros will move Marwin all over the place and use the DH spot to give guys days off. And there these guys will be, having spent a 10th round pick on Gattis, shaking their heads and feeling lied to.

    Since when did so many people become allergic to learning?

    • Grey

      Grey says:
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      @Q: I agree, I think I might’ve gave Gattis about the right number of ABs, but 412 might be optimistic… BTW, CBS ranked Gattis 41st overall, not out of catchers

      • Q says:
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        @Grey: I guess there’s at least an argument that catcher is scarce, so grabbing Sánchez or Contreras early makes sense. But taking a catcher in the middle rounds is just…..why?

        • Grey

          Grey says:
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          Totally, great point… Sanchez, okay, case can be made… But Molina? Oh man…

    • Darrell says:
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      @Q:

      Depends on the cost/ round, but lets say he’s getting picked around 190/ round 15, where I’ve seen him in some mocks. Why not take a chance at that point that Steamer is right? If you do get a 550 AB DH you can play at C who hits 30 HR, that’s the sort of thing that can put you in good position to win a league. If not, you haven’t risked that much.

      • Q says:
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        @Darrell: You could be right, and I don’t have anything against Gattis specifically. But there are other guys who could potentially run into, say, 25 HR, that I can get 70 picks later. I’m not suggesting at all that I know who that will be…..but I think round 15 still has value and I’m much more comfortable drafting an SP with upside than a C his age in that situation.

  21. The Eye of Horus says:
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    I had the pleasure to watch Reggie Roby punt in college. His moonballs were so entertaining, we almost wished a 4th down would come, sometimes. I found it shocking how early he died, and from only an assumed cause. Wouldn’t you check the reason?

    • Grey

      Grey says:
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      @The Eye of Horus: Yeah, when I watched football, I watched the Dolphins… Still sad he’s dead…

  22. J-FOH says:
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    A few things:
    Is that a green striped cardigan in your video? Must be inspired by the animators abuelita.
    No mention of the Maxwell off-season arrest. You are going to get maybe one or two oops to write about him this season https://deadspin.com/here-are-the-police-reports-from-bruce-maxwells-arrest-1820027601
    Barnes feels like a BAR (Boring and Reliable) and the Black Crowes, who by your accounts was going to save rock n roll, made their popularity by covering a soul artist (Otis Redding) song Hard to Handle. Not the best way to save it.

    • Grey

      Grey says:
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      Abuelitas might be animating these!

      My one big takeaway from that police report — Why have we never gone to get cheesesteaks at Geno’s when in Arizona?!

      Barnes does feel that way, if he actually plays all year… I have a feeling Grandal’s gonna be starting as quickly as Barnes started, uh, starting last year…

      • J-FOH says:
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        @Grey: I don’t think making quasi claymation is the same as working in a textile factory…

        Hahahahaha. Me too. The police report needed more detail about Geno’s

        I think Grandal gets moved this year. The argument I read for him to go to Oakland made more sense than me getting anger management therapy.

        • Grey

          Grey says:
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          Quasi claymation sweat factories are some of the worst…

          HA! Yes! Like, “Postmates brought the food from Geno’s for a charge of $3 but Maxwell could’ve went to Geno’s himself which is right off the 210.”

          I hope Grandal gets moved to one of 20 teams without a decent catcher…

          • J-FOH says:
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            @Grey: Seriously Deadspin, where is the Yelp link to Gino’s in that article? Any of your readers west of the mississippi and not in the east bay are reading this going “I want to know more about Geno’s”

            • Grey

              Grey says:
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              I’m a little surprised in all our trips to Arizona, I’ve never seen Geno’s and screamed, “Pull to the side of the road right now!”

              • J-FOH says:
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                @Grey: I’m more inclined to go to Spring Training this year just to go to Geno’s. All I need is a Maxwell jersey for a photo opp in front of the sign.

                • Grey

                  Grey says:
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                  I was 95% against spring training this year, but Geno’s has got me closer to 50/50…. That photo op would be amazing…

                • Grey

                  Grey says:
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                  Actually, the best/most obscure Halloween costume would be a Maxwell jersey and you carry around a Geno’s bag…

                  • J-FOH says:
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                    @Grey: hahaha on both. I wish you watched Red Oaks because I found my next Halloween costume. Obscure nd hilarious

                    • Grey

                      Grey says:
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                      I don’t know, Cougs said it was like a lesser Flamingo Kid… Granted, anything compared to Flamingo Kid sounds awesome, but hmm…

                    • J-FOH says:
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                      The Flamingo Kid is amazing. But to comp that is just being lazy.

                    • Grey

                      Grey says:
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                      In fairness, she only watched the 1st episode…

                    • J-FOH says:
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                      Now I want to watch the Flamingo Kid….Sweet Georgia Brown!

                    • Grey

                      Grey says:
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                      You got a good memory…I remember loving it, but I don’t remember anything specific about it…

                    • J-FOH says:
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                      It felt like it was on every day one summer and I watched it damn near every time with my brother, Hell we started playing Gin in the summers while we waited for my grandparents to show up and watch us(me) so I could swim.

                    • Grey

                      Grey says:
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                      Yeah, I must’ve watched it at least 2 dozen times, but not in 25 years prolly…

                    • J-FOH says:
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                      I bought the DVD after a late night bender at 3 in the morning in the 5 dollar bin at Walmart

                    • Grey

                      Grey says:
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                      That sounds like the hallmarks of a good night…

                    • J-FOH says:
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                      or a failed night that led to spending post last call at the walmart.

                    • Grey

                      Grey says:
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                      I never had one of those, but I did have a lot of failed nights at 7-11

                    • J-FOH says:
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                      Ive wanted to cry into a box of 3AM fresh donuts

                    • Grey

                      Grey says:
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                      Isn’t that a Matchbox Twenty song?

                    • J-FOH says:
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                      Feels more like the Smiths

                    • Grey

                      Grey says:
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                      I don’t know them…

                    • J-FOH says:
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                      you do you just don’t know that you do. Its Morrisey’s original band. Song in Ferris Buehlers among many other movies

                    • Grey

                      Grey says:
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                      I’m so music deficient outside of rap…

                    • Grey

                      Grey says:
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                      Now that GIF makes me want to watch!

                    • Grey

                      Grey says:
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                      That kinda looks like me!

                    • J-FOH says:
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                      It totally does! I just shared it with Ralph

                    • Grey

                      Grey says:
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                      Damn, I miss Ralph… He got shook by Willy Mo and disappeared…

                    • J-FOH says:
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                      I just read up on this. Oh Jeebus. There is one thing to call out a lazy writer but that kinda sucks. The time spent makes us mushy upstairs

                    • Grey

                      Grey says:
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                      Haha

  23. Squat Cobblers says:
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    Great stuff Lord Greyjoy! (Sorry, just finally finished Game of Boners.)

    In a 15-team, 2 C league, should I put the Barnhart tier (You didn’t punt, you fell asleep) above Chance Sisco tier (Fill in player’s name…)?

    Thanks, your Grace!

    • Grey

      Grey says:
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      As long as I’m not Varys…. Yeah, I could see going with a starter vs. a platoon guy… You’re talking overall the difference between picks 350 and 400…

      • Squat Cobblers says:
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        @Grey: Lord Varys? Not you! More like Theon! (oops!) I’ll never eat sausage the same way again!

        Thanks!

        • Grey

          Grey says:
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          Damn, now that I think about it, a lot of guys have lost their testicles on that show…

  24. fatbob166 says:
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    Loving the rankings so far Homie…Last year started off as a rough one, but after a ton of trades, and a few savvy pick-ups, I have put myself in great position for 2018. We get to keep 12 guys each season, and I have 11 all but set in stone. Waiver grabs are $1 to keep the following year, and then we can keep forever with salaries increasing $3 per season. This is my roster in an ESPN 14-Team 6×7 H2H ($260 budget.)

    $7 Dozier
    $7 Jo-Ram
    $7 Bregman
    $7 Trea
    $12 Cruz
    $1 Bellinger
    $1 Hoskins
    $1 Calhoun
    $4 Berrios
    $7 Thor

    A.)My last two keeps, I can choose between $26 Keuchel, $1 Lamet, $9 Walker, and $1 Robles. Right now I’m leaning towards Keuchel and Lamet. Am I leaning in the right direction though?

    B.)I would love to pull off a trade pre-season, which would bring me another ace to pair with Thor (I’m unsure that Keuchel can be that guy.) I have a lot of options where to put my offensive guys position-wise thanks to eligibility. Should I try to package Keuchel and a bat for a more reliable ace, or should I sit tight with the offense I have, and rely on waivers to find the arm I want after the season starts?

    Thanks in advance, and I look forward to another great season of Razzball!!

    • Grey

      Grey says:
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      Thanks!

      A) Walker who? Neil?

      B) Keuchel and Calhoun get you anything? Maybe Greinke?

      • fatbob166 says:
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        Grey: My bad…Taijuan. I know he used to be our boy, but have we seen enough yet? $9 not a great price, but going into last year’s draft, I believe Gausman was the best projected pitcher available, and I think he went for over $30.

        • Grey

          Grey says:
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          Gausman was best? Oofa… I don’t love Taijuan, but sounds like he might be worth the $9

  25. El Marco says:
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    My favorite post of the year! No seriously, thank you. The last thing I want to do is research and rank catchers. I wrote down Ramos, Castillo, Zunino …the extent of my research.

    • Grey

      Grey says:
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      Ha, no problem!

  26. Hawk says:
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    I want to leave a comment but Catchers are so bor………………zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz

    • Grey

      Grey says:
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      What, a 15-homer/.250 hitter does nothing for you?

      • Hawk says:
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        @Grey:

        Hm? Oh, sorry…I just woke up.

        Were we talking about Mike Zunino again? He’s like taking Nyquil to me. I start talking about him and fall asleep right where I’m standing.

        • Grey

          Grey says:
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          Need a NoDozier…

          • Hawk says:
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            @Grey:

            I’m hoping you’ll post one tomorrow! Freakin catchers.

            • Grey

              Grey says:
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              I will, 1B

  27. Autolycus says:
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    Grey,

    I know you are saying not to draft Sanchez, but what’s your take on his value in keeper leagues?

    5 keepers / year, 10 team standard 5×5 roto. Four definite keepers (Won last year) are Betts, Harper, Treat Urner and Jose Ramirez. 5th keeper by rankings should likely be Sanchez, but my other options are D. Murphy, OZUNA, Severino, Domingo Santana and Rhysus.

    I believe in Rhysus, but over Sanchez?

    • Grey

      Grey says:
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      They’re pretty close in the big picture… I prefer Hoskins…

  28. Ghost Ride the WHIP says:
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    Grey,

    In a 6 keeper league, i probably have ~8 players worth keeping. Do you find more value in trying to “trade up” 2 keepers for 1 better one or is there more value in trading some on the lower end for top draft picks (Rounds 7 or 8) ? I have 4 keepers in your top 20! thanks for all the help

    • Grey

      Grey says:
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      Depends on specifics of which players

      • Ghost Ride the WHIP says:
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        Keeper possibilities are:
        Arenado, rizzo, belli, beni, scherzer, s. marte, yu, ray (keeping first 6 if i can’t trade)

        I’d be trying to land a top 10 guy (like betts) trading a top 20 player (rizzo/scherzer) + lower tier (darvish/ray/s. marte). Alternatively, I’d be open to trade any 2 of the last 3-4 for just picks.

        • Grey

          Grey says:
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          Hmm… Marte + Yu?

  29. knucks says:
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    Thanks for these Grey. Your ranks are my bible. Glad to see that there aren’t any sh*t posters today. Keep up the great work.

    Off topic but I’m pretty sure that ESPN mocks typically start around mid Feb or so? Does that sound about right?

    Looking forward to seeing how the votes for the RCLs come out for this year. Psyched to get into those for the first time.

    • Grey

      Grey says:
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      No problem…. Not sure about ESPN mocks, my guess is mid-Feb, yeah

  30. Scott Kimmel says:
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    Hey Grey,

    I am working on a trade to get Acuna. The offer I got was this:

    I give up McCutchen, Bryan Shaw, Carrasco and a 10th round pick in ’19
    I get Acuna, Fowler and Taillon and a 1st round pick in ’19.

    • Scott Kimmel says:
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      Grey, he then made a second offer where I give up Morton, McCutchen, and my 10th rounder in ’19 for Acuna, Fowler and his 2nd round pick in ’19. Thoughts on that one as well?

      • Grey

        Grey says:
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        I’d take Acuna

      • Grey

        Grey says:
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        This is better than other offer

        • Scott Kimmel says:
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          Grey,

          Take the first offer or the second offer.

          • Grey

            Grey says:
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            2nd video

            • Scott Kimmel says:
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              ok i agreed to the offer of Morton, McCutchen and my 10th rounder in 2019 for Acuna, Fowler, and his 2nd rounder in ’19

              • Grey

                Grey says:
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                Nice

                • Scott Kimmel says:
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                  now waiting for league approval

                  • Grey

                    Grey says:
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                    Awesome, SK!

    • Grey

      Grey says:
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      It’s fair, I’d take Acuna

  31. Slappy Jack says:
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    W. Contreras was on fire ‘Gary Sanchez style’ from mid June until he got hurt in early August.
    something like 16 hr’s w/ a .370+ ISO …. How the heck is that “solid, but likely not that different than, say, Austin Barnes. ” ?
    Austin Barnes will be lucky to hit 16 hr all year, never mind over a 6 week stretch.
    If Contreras hadn’t tweaked his hammy or whatever it was, he’s in that #1 convo pretty sure.
    and like, hes a legitimately good baseball player, could easily be a 30 hr OF if he wasn’t a catcher unlike most of the dudes on this list.. hmm maybe I just have a thing for him

    anywhoz

    Catchers are such aids riddled with cancer, I am going to do the future me a solid and try to get one of those top five at a reasonable price on all my teams
    so I can spare myself dredging through shit tier player roulette all season. Obviously, you have thoroughly explained how I am losing some value by using this approach but #worth

    Great work tho Grey, love you!
    video is neato
    looking forward to the rest

    • Grey

      Grey says:
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      Thanks! re: anywhoz — you’re going to play roulette with your catcher, even if you have a top 5 catcher… You wouldn’t have been immune from that last year, and you won’t this year…

      • Slappy Jack says:
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        @Grey: so you’re saying there’s a chance?

  32. Swfcdan says:
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    Thoughts on Moose, Chase Anderson and Wood for next year? Which guys give you wood, which a semi and which guys make you downright limp!

    • Grey

      Grey says:
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      I’ll go over all of these guys in the rankings

    • Swfcdan says:
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      @Swfcdan: Dayum Grey doesn’t do sneak peeks! Am in trade talks (trading away) with a couple of those so just wanted to know your general views (preferably in the format above :)

      • Grey

        Grey says:
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        Wood, Moose, Anderson

  33. Willy Mo says:
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    Haha the video is great. Its like Bert and Ernies’ uncle with the mustache who always talks about baseball and makes strange references they cant understand who they only see on holidays. Hope to see more. And no fear with the jesus joke, you would probably crush at a celebrity roast.

    • Grey

      Grey says:
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      Ha, thanks!

  34. Malicious Phenoms says:
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    WOW, I made the podcast! Albeit not in the way I wanted to.

    First, what I wrote had nothing to do with Trout, Shawn Carter or Bouncy.

    It just seems like Grey is just saying silly nonsense instead of talking about baseball.

    I love talking baseball. I hate talking rap, Hollywood people and so on.

    I just miss the old Grey, that’s all. I am old school.

    Sorry you think I was an ass, not my intention at all..

    LOVE the videos, by the way, cool and funny..

    Cheers,

    MP

  35. Fungazi says:
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    Memorable 2018 Malicious Phenom quotes:

    Grey is just saying silly nonsense

    Be a professional baseball guy

    You wouldn’t have to write all those 400,00 words

    • Grey

      Grey says:
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      On the podcast, I discuss how even Cougs emailed me to be like WTF?

      • Malicious Phenoms says:
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        @Grey:
        Well this old man has been kind of pissed off at life for while now and you just got ca ought in the crossfire.

        Sorry man, didn’t mean to be so ridiculous about the whole thing.

        Wished there was a delete button the minute I posted it..

        • Grey

          Grey says:
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          No worries, it’s all good…

          • Malicious Phenoms says:
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            @Grey: Cool, Just wish my life was in a better place, but that is not something I should have taken out on you..

            Truly sorry Bro!

            • Grey

              Grey says:
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              No worries, be well…

      • Fungazi says:
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        @Grey: Yeah, heard that. Well you dropped your rankings and got roasted, it’s sorta big news

        • Grey

          Grey says:
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          Haha

        • Malicious Phenoms says:
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          @Fungazi: Dude, not really sure why you are involved in this, kinda between me and Grey, but yeah, you actually think I care about being roasted, I don’t.

  36. Chris Sherwin says:
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    In a daily league with AVG & OBP as categories, would it be a wildly unsuccessful idea to just leave my 1 catcher spot blank everyday? Will a catcher’s dozen homers, 40 runs, 60 rbi offset what they’ll negatively do for my avg and obp?

    • Grey

      Grey says:
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      Don’t love that strategy… Yeah, 40+ runs and 60+ RBIs can mean the difference between 2nd and 1st place…

  37. Peacecoast says:
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    hey Grey Poupon!

    I play in a CBS league with daily line ups! Where does that put Ohtani for me overall? Must lower his ADP a lot?

    • Grey

      Grey says:
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      Meh, I’ll be ranking him, prolly around 85-95 overall…

      • Peacecoast says:
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        @Grey:
        Doesn’t the daily lineup give him a boost? Get all the pitching stats and run him in when he is hitting. Will he be better than my DH though?

        P.S.: pardon me, do you have any gay poupon? terrible I know

        • Grey

          Grey says:
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          Haha… Meh, I don’t see the Angels using him more than maybe for 120 ABs… They’re not playing him in the field, and DH is crowded… Maybe a ten spot bump in rankings…

  38. TheTinDoor says:
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    Re: Zunino…

    He went on an epic heater from 5/29 – 6/23. In 22 games: 9 HR, 14 R, 30 RBI(!), .370 avg. That’s 36% of his HR and 47% of his RBI in 20% of his games.

    If you take out that hot streak & replace the 78 AB with his rest-of-season rates, you get 48 R/20 HR/43 RBI/.220 AVG.

    Not to say he can’t get hot again this year (he seems like that kind of hitter), but if he DOESN’T, look out below.

    • Grey

      Grey says:
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      Yeah, don’t disagree… Imagine picking him up finally at the end of that streak… Oofa…

  39. Nightpandas says:
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    Yay Catchers….

    Which side Grey?

    Myers,O Arcia. Vs. J Bell, Story

    Keeper obp

    • Grey

      Grey says:
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      Myers

    • Grey

      Grey says:
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      Now I feel like I have to watch Red Oaks…

        • Grey

          Grey says:
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          Hour or half hour?

          • J-FOH says:
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            @Grey: half

            • Grey

              Grey says:
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              Oh, I can breeze through this then… Sounding more appealing by moment…

              • J-FOH says:
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                @Grey: I look forward to the inside jokes

                • Grey

                  Grey says:
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                  I’m thinking of rewatching Breaking Bad from the beginning…

                  • J-FOH says:
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                    @Grey:
                    that works because outside of the first couple episodes Ive never seen it

  40. Duda Want to Build a Snowman? says:
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    Hey Grey – weighing two separate standard keeper league offers (yes, one is yet another offer received for Just Dong!) . . . which side do you like in each?

    1. My $18 Goldy for his $9 Lindor and $9 Correa (if I accepted, then either $15 Schoop, $11 Devers, or $10 Robbie Ray would not be kept)

    2. My $10 Just Dong for ANY 2 of the following pitchers or hitters:

    $33 Kershaw
    $14 Carrasco
    $15 Degrom

    $36 Rizzo
    $23 Upton
    $4 Pham
    $9 Krush Davis

    Thanks!

    • Grey

      Grey says:
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      1 isn’t bad at all… 2 depends on how bad you need SPs

      • Duda Want to Build a Snowman? says:
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        @Grey: Thanks! Re: #2 . . . my current 7 keepers are JDM, Goldy, Bellinger, Blackmon, Schoop, Devers, Robbie Ray . . . If I took trade #2, not sure who I would let go to FA (probably Devers because he’s $11 and is likely draftable at not much higher than that price–Schoop is $15 and Ray is $10).

        It’s a weekly roto league with 6 SP slots and $100 FAAB, so there is definitely value to having a bunch of “reliable” K-heavy pitchers (rather than needing to stream Bartolo Colon and Dilson Lamet 2-starts and hope that he doesn’t ruin your rate stats for the rest of the season). If half of my rotation were Kershaw, Carrasco, and Robbie Ray, that should* be pretty sweet from a W, K, and ratio standpoint and I could probably fill out the rest of my SPs with $1-$3 guys . . .

        • Grey

          Grey says:
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          Yeah, that should* be a stacked rotation… Pitching is a delicate balance of shouldas tho

          • Duda Want to Build a Snowman? says:
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            @Grey: You said it. For frame of reference, Cueto went for $34 and Bumgardner went for $44 in this league, so a $33 Kershaw is pretty good bang for your buck (let alone $14 Carrasco). And an offense beginning with those remaining guys is still a very strong foundation…

            Last question! If I can swing it, I assume that you still prefer the Lindor ($6) for my JDM ($10) trade over this JDM for Kersh+CC?

            • Grey

              Grey says:
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              Yeah, I prefer Lindor

  41. Buffalo Runner says:
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    My catcher rankings are one tier, entitled, I dont do catcher rankings.

    I used 11 catchers last year…

    402 Abs
    .264 avg
    53 runs
    19 hrs
    54 rbi
    1 sb

    Enjoy!

    • Grey

      Grey says:
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      That’s a damn good Frankencatcher

  42. Cheese Eating Surrender Monkey says:
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    reading the corbin post now, remember pre-march 2017 velo’s were on average .7 lower due to the new guns that started in march 2017. so if corbin had a 91.7 in 2016 and 92.4 in 2017 that’s really just two 91.7’s in back to back years.

    • Grey

      Grey says:
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      Oh, yeah, new guns, forgot about those… Still, it’s marginal enough of a difference in velocity…

      • Cheese Eating Surrender Monkey says:
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        @Grey: on happ’s playing time the part “but there’s no way Almora moves Happ to the bench more than a few times a week”

        well this is a maddoning situation, where last year the federalist somehow moved almora to the bench all sorts of the time. yes he does have the other positions to play, but then we got the old baez problem (who’s also been benched for good chunks of multiple seasons now). also this is the manager who never let russell ever play in a decent lineup position (albeit he DID let happ do this from his first day on often), and also the same manager that keeps on needing to get zobrist at bats for some reason. heyward too (at least his D is good though).

        • Grey

          Grey says:
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          Yeah, I still think Happ sees the ABs, but I hear ya…

          • Cheese Eating Surrender Monkey says:
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            @Grey: i’d think so too but saying what maddoning “should” do and what happens is less often the case than with many other managers.

            • Grey

              Grey says:
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              Yeah, agreed

  43. los locos says:
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    10 team keeper league

    Got my keepers I think offensively and now need 3 pitchers below.. offense arenado bellinger freeman and c seager.

    I like to trade for kluber but will be tough anyway who you like below?

    Kershaw
    Strausburg
    Nola
    Corbin
    Tailon
    Samarjia

    Paxton
    Honeywell
    Rodon

    • Grey

      Grey says:
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      Kershaw
      Strasburg
      Nola

  44. John says:
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    Any thought on Schwarber getting eligibility this year?

    • Grey

      Grey says:
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      I could see it after a few months…

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