Dan Haren got the win yesterday, but his line was 5 2/3 IP, 3 ER, 11 baserunners and 5 Ks.  Did he see his shadow in Spring Training and now think spring w0n’t start until August?  Someone inform this young brother it’s the pre-All-Star Break.  Ergo, therefore, vise a vie, he’s supposed to be pitching well now.  He only has about a month before he turns into summer squash.  Right?  Well, what if he pitches well in the 2nd half this year?  I know, it’s crazy talk from a guy that pees into milk bottles.  So far this year, he has his best K-rate of his career.  He has the 8th best K-rate in the major leagues.  He also has the 2nd best K/BB in all of baseball.  Just behind Roy Halladay.  At his current rate, Haren would have his worst ERA since his first half year.  That shizz doesn’t add up.  Striking out people, not walking people and a terrible ERA?  I know the 2nd half Boogie Monster scares Haren pretty good, but I think he might be able to fight the 2nd half terrors this year if his luck just evens out a little bit.  Anyway, here’s what else I saw yesterday in fantasy baseball:

Dana Eveland – 5 IP, 3 ER, 8 baserunners, 0 Ks.  Has a K:BB ratio of 21:29, which looks like a Roland Emmerich film.  Both are terrible, by the way.

Carlos Silva – 7 IP, 1 ER, 5 baserunners, 5 Ks and his 8th win.  Sometimes you don’t question how someone rolls 8 points in a row at a craps table.  You just put your money down and hope the dice stay hot.

Koyie Hill – Got the day off to let the former NL Rookie of the Year with a .404 OBP play a game.  How generous of Piniella to put aside his plan to kick start the offense with Koyie Hill.  Soto went 2-for-4 and he’s hitting .262 with 5 homers on the year.  His counting stats are an abomination, but 15 homers and a .270 average seems doable/usable.  However, I do know how frustrating it is when your catcher sits a few games a week, especially when they’re sitting for Koyie Hill.

Mike Fontenot – Got the day off after going 1 for his last 12, giving way to Theriot for a 2-for-3, 4 Runs, 2 steal day.  Again, Piniella put aside his offensive concerns and went with actual offense.

Starlin Castro – 0-for-3 and hitting .118 in the last week.  That rookie nookie got old pretty fast.  That was why after I told everyone to grab him, I then told everyone to sell him.  (Even if my example was to sell him for Asdrubal, who was injured about three days later.  Stupid crystal ball!)

Bryce HarperNats selected him first overall and he’s sure to make about a zillion dollars.  Yeah, but I have a college degree!  I wonder if Bryce Howard will rename herself Bryce Harper Howard if he visits her.

Daisuke Matuszaka – 8 IP, 0 ER, 6 baserunners, 5 Ks and one more completely unpredictable start.

Chone Figgins – 3-for-4 and a steal as he was moved down to the nine hole.  That’ll help him breakout out of his season-long slump!… If he were still in that slump.  He had just raised his batting average 30 points in the ten games prior to getting moved down the order.  Is Don Wakamatsu the guy from Memento?  Someone please read the lineup card off his back.

Michael Saunders – 1-for-4 with a home run.  Getting playing time now that Mike Sweeney is on the DL.  He’s a poor man’s Big FraGu and a less angry Militant Bradley.

Cliff Lee – 9 IP, 2 ER, 7 baserunners, 7 Ks as The Adverb modified the Rangers.

Alfredo Simon – Sticking with the adverb theme presently, Simon will return shortly and be the closer again immediately.

Wade LeBlanc – 7 IP, 0 ER, 5 baserunners, 2 Ks.  Look at LeBlanc getting it done away from Petco.  Now if he can only get his post-Friends career off the ground.

Adrian Gonzalez – 2 homers and his third in the last two games.  Just four days ago, I said, “Would love to see this be the start of one of (Adrian’s) crazy homer binge streaks.”  Okay, let’s try this again.  Would love to see Adrian Gonzalez get traded to the Phillies and become a catcher.  Thank you!

Johnny Cueto – 6 IP, 4 ER, 11 baserunners, 5 Ks.  I don’t want to make excuses for him, but he threw a wild pitch to get two runners into scoring position then let the pitcher hurt him with a single to score two runs.  It wasn’t like he was getting pounded.  Okay, I did want to make excuses.

Jay Bruce – 3-for-4 and his 8th homer as he bats .276 with 5 steals.  Member when he was called up and it was the same as the Stanton madness?  Two years later still waiting for the explosion.  Yesterday, Karabell made his case for Stanton.  He ranked ten outfielders he liked more and ten outfielders he liked less than Stanton:  Bautista, Byrd, Cuddyer, Drew, Hawpe, Ibanez, Damon, The Big FraGu, Soriano, Markakis, Swisher, Jose Guillen, Carlos Lee and Willingham, to name a few.  I purposely mixed up which ones he liked more and which ones he liked less to point out how arbitrary the names are.  Damon’s on the list of names he likes more or less?  Think what you would say, then go with the opposite.  Carlos Lee?  I’m not sure if he was liked more or less and I just closed the window the post was on and don’t feel like going back to it.  You need The ESPN Hindsighter to read the whole thing, but you ain’t missing anything anyway.  For what it’s Wuertz, I’ll go over Strasburg and Stanton in this afternoon’s post in anticipation of Big Baby Jesus and Inspectah Upper-Decker.

Ryan Ludwick – 2-for-4, 2 homers.  Alternating productive years, huh?  Who are you, Bret Saberhagen?

Carlos Monasterios – 6 IP, 3 ER, 7 baserunners, 0 Ks.  Did Monasterios steal Ely’s lucky monkey?  Eh, the Dodgers jumped out to an early lead and CM stayed away from dropping a BM.  Still not really worth anything outside of NL-Only leagues.

Blake DeWitt – 2-for-3, 5 RBIs and his first home run.  He dedicated his first four-bagger to his one-bagger mom, Joyce.

  1. and1mcgee says:

    i hate it in h2h leagues when the guy you’re playing against has Ryan Ludwick and he hits 2 jacks. I almost wish he had Jamey Carroll or Craig Counsell and he did the same thing.

  2. Eddy says:

    Woah, it’s pretty weird staying up till 3:30am here in Miami to read this as opposed to the usual 11am or so.

    “Big Baby Jesus and Inspectah Upper-Decker”=most legit duo name


  3. Elbert says:

    A-Rod + Harden vs. Jiminez + A. Jones trade offer in 16-deep league, which side is better going forward?

    BTW, i own Jiminez + A. JOnes, it’s actually a trade offer from another owner; A-Rod is enticing, but rest of components are quite muddled; besides Jiminez my SP consist of Baker, Lilly, Scherzer, Sheets, Myers.

    offensively i have A. Gon + Longo @ the corner spots (losing Morales is big blow), other notable hitters are Posey + Weeks + Furcal + Caballo Lee + Pence + Wieters + Carlos Guillen + Beckham, etc…

  4. Aaron says:

    “Big Baby Jesus and Inspectah Upper-Decker”

    Grey wins again.

    All the yahoo! fantasy team is going to try and think up variations of those two nicknames.

  5. SotoMojo says:

    Grey, which FA OF would you pick up as an injury replacement for the next couple of weeks?

    Gomes, Kearns, Matsui, Delmon Young, Kubel, and Scott are the names I’ve been mulling over. RBIs are where I’m hurting.

  6. Peter says:

    “[Dan Haren] also has the 2nd best K/BB in all of baseball. Just behind Roy Halladay.”

    Cliff Lee has a better ratio than both of them: 57/4 = 14.25

  7. Spartacus says:

    Hey Grey,

    Now that Javy is back on track, guy in my league wants to trade Mags for Javy. What do you think in terms of pure value?



  8. Ron Washington's Stache says:

    @SotoMojo: I’d go with Matsui. He’s heating up.

  9. ThePoonTycoon says:

    @Elbert: i wouldn’t do that. it would leave your staff pretty thin. even with ubaldo’s impending regression, he’s gonna be a very useful SP. he might have astart or 2 where he gets lit up, but largely, his regression is gonna be a lot of 7 IP 3 ER 6 K type games.

  10. BSA says:

    Synergy Center Voting PSA-
    I understand the voting was a problematic yesterday. The system is getting adjusted to stop people from cheating so it is getting bogged down right now. Truly every vote counts as cheating has been defined as tech savvy people can no longer make their computers vote.
    When I sound like a politician saying every vote counts, I mean every vote counts. I checked it at 7:00 EST we were ranked 45, 8:00 I voted and we pushed back to 46. Like I said every vote counts.

    Thanks everyone, now back to Razzballin’

  11. Haverjus says:

    Grey- I know the rule is to never, never, never start HodgePadres away from Petco….but Richard is at Metco today! To start or not start, that is the question?

  12. Your mom's corn hole says:

    2 questions:

    Fragu or Markaikis going forward

    Hamilton or cargo going forward

  13. Maitland says:

    Just traded Zimmerman and didn’t get a 3B back in the deal. Anyone have any thoughts on what kind of 3B I could get trading Berkman and Raul Ibanez? Berkman seems like he has been playing better.

  14. Mr2Bits says:

    Damn DiceK. Of course I play the last place team that has him this week and damn near throws a shutout. Seems as throw I always get stuck playing teams whose pitchers play the Royals and Indians.

    Anyone else rooting against Strasbug tonight? Really like to see him get lit up so I can watch ESPN again.

    Bryce Harper should be an interesting pick in drafts 3 years from now when he finishes puberty.

  15. ThePoonTycoon says:

    @Maitland: a shitty one

    seriously, i have guys like glaus and mcgehee and stewart as a 3B in leagues, and i wouldn’t deal any of them for berkman + ibanez. 3B is not a good position to be trading for. plus berkman + ibanez is like trading a couple of grandpas who haven’t been doing that great and are a DL threat every game.

  16. Elbert says:

    @ThePoonTycoon: Thanks PoonTycoon, as it’s always better to look at own team from other perspective; i liked the trade initially, but something just didn’t feel right, glad you echoed my sentiments.

  17. Hi Grey.

    Two questions here, both related to my frustratingly deep 20-team one-year roto league:

    First, what do you think of the trade where I send Quentin and Aviles for Span? AVE and SB are my weakest offensive categories, and the other guy needs HR and RBI (he’s fine in SB) and he’s starting Barmes and Castro at 2B/SS, so Aviles could help there. I’d use the extra roster spot for a good MR or the hot bat de jour.

    And second, following up on something from yesterday, you think Bondo’s a better bet than Vargas as a 5th starter in this deep league? And what are your thoughts on Padilla? I was always in shallower leagues so I never paid him much attention, but his NL strikeout-walk ratios look good, and he plays in a pitcher’s park with a good team behind him. Am I missing something?

  18. Back to Minors says:

    @Elbert: Take A-Rod!

  19. ThePoonTycoon says:

    @Enrique: i’d move quentin for span. aviles is nothing more than roster depth/hot bat type guy, so throwing him in to get the deal done wouldn’t make me hesitate at all.

  20. Back to Minors says:

    @Back to Minors: @Elbert: my guess is the remaining SP on your staff already ruin Ubaldo’s numbers and in return you’ll get a top flight everyday player.

  21. Elbert says:

    @Maitland: depends on whom you trade Zimmerman away for, generally you won’t be getting back someone of Zimmerman’s caliber.

    3B is @ a premium position these days, since you didn’t trade back values @ 3B, try package Berkman + anyone but Ibanez for middling tier 3B.

    But get this, 3B isn’t really one position to trade away for, unless you have surplus in position value.

  22. Elbert says:

    @Back to Minors: much to your surprise Back to Minors, my pitching is actually doing quite nicely in this league, remember it’s a 16-team deep mixed league, this pitching staff of mine is actually vastly underrated; with my offense sputtering around, pitching is actually carrying the team in overall result.

    you don’t need 5 Lincecum or Ubaldo to win pitching (it’s good to have that though :), sometimes good matchup management can help a long way to fantasy success.

  23. Howie Met Your Mother says:


    In regards to Stanton, I think those were Matthew Berry’s 10 players he liked more and less.

  24. Terrific wrap-up Grey. & glad that you called out Klarabell’s amusing article. Truly masters of hindsight at the world wide leader of sports. You ended with 3B, so with Freese contributing another 0-1 pinch hitting appearance (cankle reference the other day was a hoot), might he be giving us reason to go for more upside? Or might his power be coming in the second half? If you owned a benched Aramis in favor of him, might you take this opportunity to put Ramirez back at third, hope for the best and consider any of an attainable Pena, Smoak, or Swisher? Or drop Aramis for a less yawnstipating second half out of Freese? Gotta play one of em. 3B is an issue this season.
    & for what it’s worth Joyce was indeed a one-bagger. Those who claimed to prefer Blake’s sister over Suzanne always ticked me off. The fools that tried to sell you on that were the same dudes who always touted Vernon Wells sister over Tina.

  25. ThePoonTycoon says:

    @Elbert: yeah, trading away ubaldo pretty much takes away the 1 guy on your staff i would feel comfortable starting every single matchup. arod is the type of bat you’d want int return for ubaldo, but i just this trade hurting your pitching more than helping your offense.

  26. Elbert says:

    @Howie Met Your Mother: yeah man, Karabell copied off from Berry’s 10 players he likes more or less, only Kara did it with Stanton.

  27. Hans says:

    No mention of Daniel Bard closing the next couple days………….and you call yourself a saves whore………..

  28. Elbert says:

    @ThePoonTycoon: actually i traded Danks away for Adam Jone, that’s why my staff looks rather “dependent” with U-Baldo; imagine with this staff I have beaten most of my fellow league mate’s pitching categories, how strange it is!

    now Gorzelanny, this kid, I must tell u guys, good lad, helped my team greatly in May.

  29. hoju says:

    @Mr2Bits: I’m rooting for Strasburg today just so I can steal away someone like Liriano/Hamels/Hanson from the guy who has all those guys in my league.

    One good start today and he’ll be chugging the kool-aid.

  30. Wilsonian says:

    So, in my 8 Team H2H Keeper (I posted some preliminary questions about this yesterday) one of the guys put Tex on the block. I sent a BS offer, just to see what he was looking for, which he rejected. Then sent a reasonable offer of Rasmus/Papi for Tex with a note that says here are 5 guys I’ll deal for him…take your pick of the two you want. Good guys on the list (Rasmus, Cargo, Papi, Shields, Ervin). He outright rejects the offer with no counter and accepts Liriano and F-Cord for Tex. I feel like I got the raw end of the deal here. I’m not going to veto it. But for one, we have closers available in this league and Liriano wasn’t even drafted (plus there are better pitchers than him available – 8 Team League, remember?). I mean, I know Tex is struggling. But not like he’s Grady, he’ll hit 30 bombs between now and October.

    Just want some opinions of my fellow Razzballers out there. Thanks lady and gentlemen…

  31. Czernobog says:

    I do like Halladay’s MLB leading 5.9 K/BB, and Haren’s second best 5.2 as well. But since I only own them in one league each, I think I like Cliff Lee’s non league-leading 14.25 mark even more.

  32. hoju says:

    @Wilsonian: You lowballed him and he stopped wanting to trade with you. He probably wanted a good SP and got Liriano, who’s at the minimum top 20 at this point – something you weren’t offering at all. If there’s better pitchers than him available, you need to be in a better league.

    It’s not veto worthy, but you shouldn’t be too upset with anyone but yourself. Trading is more of a mind game than anything and you played it wrong.

  33. Donnie Baseball says:

    Good stuff today Grey! Love the Memento line.

    2 things.

    Am I the only one expecting a .220 BA from Stanton. Let’s remember this is AA he’s dominating and he still k’d 53 times in 52 games.

    And what do you think of T. Colvin. Piniela said he will play more often than not.

  34. Tarasco's Secret Stash says:

    Blake DeWitt, Austin Kearns, and Ryan Theriot took a giant poop on my razz team yesterday. Sons of guns…

  35. @Howie Met Your Mother: @Elbert: I didn’t see anything like that from Berry. But here’s the list Grey referred to (sort of) from Karablog:

    Ten outfielders I like less than Stanton the rest of the season
    Not looking at the obvious Randy Winn types here

    1. J.D. Drew, Red Sox
    2. Jonny Gomes, Reds
    3. Jose Guillen, Royals
    4. Brad Hawpe, Rockies
    5. Adam Jones, Orioles
    6. Raul Ibanez, Phillies
    7. Jason Kubel, Twins
    8. Nick Markakis, Orioles
    9. Carlos Quentin, White Sox
    10. Alfonso Soriano, Cubs

    Ten outfielders I like more than Stanton the rest of the season
    These guys are at least in the conversation, not the obvious Matt Kemp types

    1. Jose Bautista, Blue Jays
    2. Marlon Byrd, Cubs
    3. Michael Cuddyer, Twins
    4. Johnny Damon, Tigers
    5. Franklin Gutierrez, Mariners
    6. Corey Hart, Brewers
    7. Carlos Lee, Astros
    8. Ryan Ludwick, Cardinals
    9. Nick Swisher, Yankees
    10. Josh Willingham, Nationals

  36. Wilsonian says:

    @hoju: I was really just wondering about the offer he accepted. Has Tex dropped that low that a pitcher that was undrafted (in our league, drafted late(ish) in most other leagues) and a closer can attain a keeper like Tex? I understand I slightly lowballed him, but I still think I gave him better options than that. The bats I offered are ranked WAY higher than the two pitchers he accepted, by the way.

    Anyway, we’re all friends in the league, have been for 20 years. The guy that had Tex makes some weird moves, as in, we keep 5 players, so that’s the first 5 rounds of the draft, but his first actual pick (6th round) was Broxton (with people like Cano, V-Mart, Votto, Morneau, etc. still on the table), so I guess this is par for the course.

    And like I said, I was really just wondering about the deal that was accepted. I’m not upset with myself. I have a friggin’ juggernaut of a team and am running away with the league, so my desire to bust up the ’27 Yankees was pretty slim to acquire a struggling bat, although I am a bit slim at 1B after the limp off slam (now have Glaus and Papi as replacements).

  37. xopchipili says:

    12 team h2h w shallow rosters, mauer for reyes+johan, which side ya like?

  38. cubfever7 says:

    One thing about Joyce DeWitt over Suzanne Somers is that Joyce ALWAYS went braless…and Steven Tyler wanted to be the Lord of Her Thighs (huh?)

  39. Kazmere says:

    I was offered Longo for my Zimmerman+Pierre. Thoughts?

  40. Kazmere says:

    @Kazmere: 12 team 5×5 roto and the other guy and I are tied in SBs.

  41. Awesomus Maximus

    Awesomus Maximus says:

    Love “Big Baby Jesus” for Strasburg… not crazy about Stanton’s nick’. Might I suggest trying to stay with the Russell Jones theme for all rookie phenoms? Maybe “ODB (Ol’ Dinger Blaster)” for Stanton… “Dirt McGirt” for Carlos Santana… “Joe Bananas” for Jason Heyward… “Ason Unique” for Justin Smoak, “Osirus” for Ike Davis? Okay, I got a little carried away with the last few… sorry.

    We’ve (I’ve) ranted about H2H vs. Roto on here before, so I thought I’d share my main league comparison. It’s an H2H league, but I keep track of all stats in a spreadsheet so I can see how things would shake out if it were Roto. Here’s the breakdown through Week 9 by Roto points, with their current H2H rank in parentheses.

    84.5 (T-1st) <– My team
    68 (3rd)
    67.5 (6th)
    64.5 (5th)
    59 (T-1st)
    52 (7th)
    48 (8th)
    41 (9th)
    36.5 (10th)
    29 (4th)

    I would be far and away the league leader if this were Roto, but in H2H, I'm tied with a guy producing 25.5 points less than me, and only a half game ahead of the guy with 16.5 points less than me. Not only that, check out the last place Roto team… currently in 4th place in H2H, earning him the last playoff spot. Theoretically, I could be matched up with the worst producing team in the league in the first round of the playoffs, have a bad week and/or have some key players benched (as always happens during the end of the regular MLB season) and get bounced in the first round.

    Have I ever mentioned how much I hate H2H?

  42. Ari says:

    Zito for Victorino or Werth or neither?

  43. Ari says:

    Sorry – I currently have Zito

  44. hoju says:

    @Wilsonian: The draft doesn’t really matter anymore. I’d be paying quite a bit to get Liriano. Maybe not Tex (I wouldn’t sell) but he’s definitely shown that he’s got the goods this year.

    Considering he didn’t get a bat in his deal, I don’t think he wanted one. Rasmus and CarGo are having fantastic years so far, but in an 8 team league I have to assume there’s plenty of OFs available? I guess there’s plenty of everything available. It all depends who he has starting now.

    Weird deals go down all the time. In mid-May in my league (12 tm mixed non-keeper) someone traded away Fielder and Felix for Phillips, Ichiro, Hughes and Wandy. He was in last and traded his best players to the first place team. Annoying, but such is life.

  45. ThePoonTycoon says:

    @Wilsonian: i mean, sure liriano was undrafted, but we all know he has the talent, but everyone questioned his health and whether he’d ever recover from tommy john surgery. i think he finally has. so his value isn’t that of an undrafted guy, it’s that of a guy who is a top 20-25 SP minimum, and maybe even better.

    is david price only worth the slot where he was drafted?

    casey mcgehee? troy glaus?

    guys can rise and lower their values dramatically, and a guy who is still relatively young, is supremely talented, and has a blue chip pedigree is gonna skyrocket his value once he puts things together.

    but yeah, i think hoju hit the nail on the head. i always butter up other owners, and rarely toss out an offer i know has no shot of being accepted.

    best to email and kinda gauge the positions/value he’s looking for and then saying, “would picking any of these 2 guys get the deal done?” instead of making a bad offer and then sending the same email.

  46. Wilsonian says:

    @hoju: I think it’s fair to say that I shoulda tossed in either K-Rod or Aardsma, or hell even Axford. It seems to me like this dood loves him some closers (he apparently doesn’t read Razzball). And of yes, there are plenty of guys available, none better than CarGo and Rasmus, but close. Guys like Willingham, Hart, Swisher, etc. are on the WW. That’s what you get with an 8 team league. And I would suppose that more bats are on the WW than pitchers.

    I personally don’t like Liriano. I want to see this for a whole damn season or 4. He’s burned me too many times. My feelings towards him are similar to Grey’s for Shields. Oh well. Now one guy has two struggling 1Bs (in Prince and Tex). Maybe I’ll try to deal for Prince now.

  47. Chupacabra says:

    In my HTH league, there’s Freddy Sanchez sitting on the waiver wire scorching it up lately. I have Uggla as my main 2B, and Roberts stashed on my bench. Is it time to rid myself of Roberts and pick up Freddy, or wait awhile on Roberts? I am thinking even if Roberts comes back at this point, he is on the Gloryholes, and his back problems may restrict him so much he is not worth waiting for.

  48. ThePoonTycoon says:

    @Awesomus Maximus: my main league is h2h, and over the course of a full season, everything usually shakes out pretty evenly. haven’t run the full roto numbers, but i know that the breakdown (your record if you played every other team every single week) usually works out by september playoff time. maybe a guy misses a bye or the 6th place guy finishes 7th and out of the playoffs or whatever, but most teams end up within 1 slot of their breakdown record.

    give it time, the guy in 4th will probably be in the bottom 3 by august if he doesn’t make significant moves.

  49. ThePoonTycoon says:

    @Wilsonian: dude with prince and texeira is probably giggling thinking about the 60-70 HRs he’s got coming his way between now and the end of the year. i would be.

  50. uncdrew says:

    Simon back immediately, eh? What about Mr. Gonzalez of the Mike variety? Job still his long-term?

  51. Wilsonian says:

    @ThePoonTycoon: I know you guys are far wiser than I, I know I’ve taken your advice on numerous occasions, and have even referred to you as Grey, Jr. (still hoping your rant on Lind holds true). I really wasn’t all that worried about getting the deal done. If he accepted my offer I would’ve been happy. But like I said, I have a juggernaut. Babe Ruth didn’t even make the cut on my roster. So I wasn’t all that worried about acquiring Tex – I don’t want to bust too much up because I’m on a damn roll right now (9 games up on the 2nd place guy, who happens to be my old man). I just thought, “if I can deal him these guys for Tex, I’ll be OK with it, and hopefully Tex can turn things around.”

    And no, I don’t think people like those that you mentioned are only worth their draft status (I have Glaus and you bet your ascot he ain’t cheap right now). But if you read my later post, I don’t like Liriano. He’s burned me too many times, so I guess he’s got a lesser value to me. Plus, you can only keep so many players (5 total, max of either 3 bats or 3 pitchers), so looking at his roster, it doesn’t make sense to deal a keeper for those guys.

    I usually don’t toss out BS offers, unless I know I’m not all too worried about getting the job done. Then you have the off chance of getting someone who is just fed up with someone and willing to deal him for someone who’s on a tear. Which is what I tried to do with the Rasmus offer.

    Side note (assuming you’ve read this far): Berkman v. Papi, not in a Godzilla v. Mothra kind of way…but more of a: “Who is better for the remainder of the season, kind of way?”

  52. Jeff says:

    I’m in a 16 team 5×5 roto keeper league. We keep 3 players max each year and you lose the round they were drafted. If you keep then another year it’s round drafted minus 3.

    I’m currently in 2nd place and could use help in the power categories. A guy in last place wants Votto (10th round keeper value).

    I need help at 2B (F. Lopez) and SS (O-Cab). He has Berkman, Utley, and Reyes at the positions I’m interested in. None of them can be kept. He also has Stewart and he’s got 8th round keeper value.

    What should I look for in return for Votto?

  53. Wilsonian says:

    @Wilsonian: I’m also thinking of picking up Smoak before anyone else notices he’s playing well right now. So: Smoak v. Berkman v. Papi?

  54. Eric H. says:

    @Grey: Would you trade Ryan Howard, Ubaldo Jimenez and Curtis Granderson for Prince Fielder, Dan Haren and Carl Crawford?

  55. ThePoonTycoon says:

    @Wilsonian: i would roll the dice on smoak. i don’t think papi or berkman give you anything that 25 other guys on the WW will give you in a league that shallow. at least smoak is young and has tantilizing upside, and his luck is coming around.

  56. Wilsonian says:

    @ThePoonTycoon: hmmm…you make a good point. Obviously I’m rolling with Glaus at 1B for the time being, but I would like to have a 1B on the bench, as Chris Rock put it: “in case shit, as in, in case shit happen.” I don’t really trust either one of those doods, and really like what Smoak could offer, especially in the hot summer Arlington air. Plus, with an offense of V-Mart, Glaus, Utley, Longo, Andrus, Kemp, B-Up, Cargo, Rasmus, Stanton and Cruz on the DL, I’m not hurting for offense.

    This is exactly how I acquired Longoria when he came up…and he’s now the cornerstone to my offense. So maybe history is repeating itself…

  57. Grey

    Grey says:

    @Eddy: Ha!

    @and1mcgee: Yeah, super annoying.

    @Elbert: Looks like you need Ubaldo a lot more than another corner man, but it’s fair.

    @Peter: Fair enough, didn’t have enough IP for the sample size I filtered to eliminate relievers.

    @Aaron: Hehe

    @SotoMojo: Matsui

    @Spartacus: I wouldn’t want Mags.

    @Haverjus: I’m starting him in a 20 team league and benching him in a 14 team league one.

    @Your mom’s corn hole: Hamilton and FraGu.

    @Mr2Bits: re: Bryce — Ha!

    @Enrique: I agree with Poon. Vargas, Bonderman and Padilla aren’t good. If you need to own one, you grab one and pray. Or watch for matchups.

    @Howie Met Your Mother: Nah, it was Karabell. In the article, he said he stole the idea to rank players from Berry. As if Berry came up with the idea to rank players.

    @zombie: Ha, very entertaining comment. I’d drop Freese and just play Aramis or I’d see if I could get Pena or Swisher. I wouldn’t wanna carry both of them.

    @Hans: Oh, yeah, that’s right. My bad.

    @Wilsonian: Agree with Hoju.

    @Czernobog: My filter to remove relievers caused me to miss Lee.

    @Donnie Baseball: Thanks! Yeah, Stanton’s gonna be a mess. Colvin has nice upside if he gets the ABs.

    @Tarasco’s Secret Stash: Ouch

    @xopchipili: Depends what you need. I’d take Reyes.

    @cubfever7: Ha!

    @Kazmere: Not good for you.

    @Awesomus Maximus: Ha! Nice nicks. Yeah, H2H’s completely unfair.

    @Ari: I’d take either outfielder. Werth first.

    @Chupacabra: Lose Roberts.

    @uncdrew: Long term it’s Gonzalez.

    @Jeff: Utley and O-Cab.

    @Eric H.: If you needed steals, it’s okay.

  58. ScottyM says:

    @Grey/Anyone: Yahoo 5×5 H2H league, we start 3OF & 1 UTIL. Here’s my current 1B/OF options: Butler, Dunn, Cruz(DL), Bruce, Granderson, Quentin, Lind
    SPs are: Greinke, Lester, Liriano, Buchholz, Billingsley, E.Santana, Nolasco, Leake
    I will have a surplus of pitching/OF once Simon or Cruz come off the DL and need to move some pieces to improve 1B.
    What do you think is fair to offer for Pujols-thru-Votto tier?
    I sent Greinke/Dunn offer to all but it has already been rejected by most and I don’t think it will get it done. Do you see anybody else I should add to the package or another combo that looks better?

  59. Fletch says:

    @ Grey – Please rank these pitchers for the rest of the season: Sanchez, Cecil, Baker, Lewis

    Also, which 3 out of 6 do you like the rest of the year: Glaus, Beltre, Byrd, Ludwick, Cargo, Pence


  60. charlie batch says:

    would you rather have bruce or quentin?

  61. ThePoonTycoon says:

    @ScottyM: you might could get votto or gonzalez or youk for something like butler + santana/buchholz/billingsley/leake.

    i think most teixeira and fielder owners are hell bent on riding it out at this point. i know i’ve convinced myself that either i’m sinking with tex/prince having their career worst seasons, or i’m gonna make a big surge when they finally come around. and the fear of trading them cheap and having them come around prevents me from trading them despite the numerous shitty offers i’ve had come my way.

    pooholes and miggy are probably too expensive to worry about.

  62. Ceasar says:

    Mulling a couple trade offers.

    League A (14-team roto w/ OPS)

    B.J. Upton/Price for Torii/Haren

    League B (14-team roto keeper w/o OPS)

    Ichiro/F.Lopez/S.Olsen for Josh Johnson

  63. DonCoburleone says:

    Grey I believe I’ve got a new contender in the “Every other year” category. Prince Fielder –
    2006: .271avg/.831OPS/82Runs/28HR/81RBI
    2007: .288avg/1.013OPS/109runs/50HR/119RBI
    2008: .276avg/.879OPS/86runs/34HR/102RBI
    2009: .299avg/1.014OPS/103runs/46HR/141RBI
    2010: .276avg/.851OPS/98runs/26HR/60RBI – PROJECTED

    Now granted his “Bad” years of 2006, 2008 and so far this year aren’t exactly terrible, but compared to ’07 and ’09 they are.

  64. Grey

    Grey says:

    @ScottyM: Agree with Poon.

    @Fletch: No idea which Sanchez. CarGo, Pence and Glaus…

    @charlie batch: Bruce

    @Ceasar: I’d take the Hunter side unless you need steals from Upton. I’d take the Johnson side unless you need what Ichiro provides.

    @DonCoburleone: Yeah, true. Still holding hope for this year though.

  65. ThePoonTycoon says:

    @DonCoburleone: i think he’s gonna get hot for a month or 2 and get to at least the 2008 numbers. in fact his 2008 numbers are hsi baseline projection for me right now.

  66. Ruah says:

    O-Cab or Aybar? Not sexy, but thems my choices.

  67. Fletch says:

    @ Grey – Anibal Sanchez

  68. Grey

    Grey says:

    @Fletch: Baker, Cecil, Lewis…

  69. Terrence Mann says:


    The Mememto joke killed me.

    Imagine how much it must suck going through life like that. Wakamatsu wakes up every day looking at a photo of Griff with a handwritten note, “You can trust him. He’s your 1st ballot HOFer and your best power hitter.”

  70. Lines says:

    Is Bautista a sell-high candidate? Or can he really keep this up? I know I could figure this out myself… all going to Fangraphs, looking stuff up, understanding it. But it seems so much easier to ask you, Grey.

  71. Lines says:

    Oh, and I like “Big Baby Jesus” and “Inspecta Upper-Decker” as nicknames. I just hope no one else ever televises an interview with Bryce Harper. What a maroon.

  72. Kid 'n Play says:

    Anyone know what the heck Adam Lind’s deal is? Is he a buy low type? Or is this sophomore slump really him?

  73. AnotherFalstaff says:

    Grey – 12 team H2H. An owner is willing to deal Haren for a good hitting OF. I have Kemp, JUp, Crawford, Cargo and Stanton for 4 spots. My SP’s are Hamels, Kershaw, Nolasco, Price, Marcum and Anderson (DL). Anyone worth Haren straight up or do I hold since I’m tied for 1st? Thanks!

  74. Grey

    Grey says:

    @AnotherFalstaff: You don’t need Haren on that team, but if you can get him for Stanton, I’d do it.

  75. Fletch says:

    You like Gio better than any of those pitchers I mentioned above?

    By the way, the guy in first place (1 game ahead of me) in my league got suckered in and traded Cliff Lee straight for Bautista. Nice.

  76. Jonathan says:

    Ok, 10 team keeper roto… was just offered Tim Hudson and Victorino for my Jerad Weaver.

    My pitching staff includes: Garza, Cain, Pelfrey, Jonathan Sanchez, Jaime G, Kershaw, Chapman, and Happ on the DL. (as you can tell, I stock up on pitching vs having a bunch of hitters on my bench)

    I’m leading in most pitching categories, but my hitting has been atrocious.

    My OF consists of Pence, Lind, Soriano, Swisher, and Cruz.

    Do you like the trade?

  77. Wilsonian says:

    Thinking of making an offer to a guy with Votto in an 8 Team H2H Keeper. He’s really weak at 3rd (Headley and Aramis) and a little weak at OF (Hamilton, Manny, Bruce, Markakke, Lind). But strong at 1st with Pujols and Votto. I’m slightly weaker at 1st with Glaus and Berkman right now, soon to be Smoak instead of Puma. But strong at 3rd with Longoria and Wright and strong at OF with Kemp, Cargo, Rasmus, B-Up, Stanton and Cruz on the DL. If just looking to swap bats (he said he would like a keeper quality guy in return), would an offer of Glaus/Rasmus or Cargo be a good starter? Or should I just go with an offer of Wright for Votto (not sure how much I WANT to deal Wright), straight up? What say you, sir(s), being that I probably need to take Hoju and Poon’s advice and start off with a little better offer this time around?

  78. Todd says:

    Having some third base struggles in a standard 5×5 h2h

    Who do i use at third? Freese, kouzmanoff, blake, chipper, or walker?

    Or is it worth it to try and trade up a bit for a guy like beltre, sandoval or young?

    Punting steals, so i’m looking for any other hitting stats

  79. Grey

    Grey says:

    @Fletch: They’re all matchup guys. Gio’s at the end for now…

    @Jonathan: I’d take it.

    @Wilsonian: I’d try Glaus and Rasmus for Votto. Then try CarGo and Glaus.

    @Todd: Freese… Sure, trade for one if you can.

  80. ThePoonTycoon says:

    @Wilsonian: i see what interest he has in cargo. tell him his OF is weak with manny, markakis, and lind all struggling, and that cargo would round out a nice OF with hamilton and bruce.

    a lot of it is just emailing the guy and kinda passively suggesting guys he might be interested in so see where he stands on the guys you are interested in dealing. like if he adamantly thinks glaus is gonna fall off or get hurt again, don’t try to shoe horn glaus into a deal anyway.

  81. Jonathan says:

    Yeah, I think so too. Weaver is having a great year… but I need an OF bad. And Hudson isn’t terrible.

  82. Wilsonian says:

    @Grey: @ThePoonTycoon: Again, he is a friend (this time one from Law School) so it wouldn’t be much for me to inquire about who he might be interested in. I obviously would prefer dealing one of Cargo or Rasmus for him over Wright, but it looks like none of those guys would be keepers on my team anyway…well, I take that back, Utley is sucking donkey balls right now, and if he keeps this up, he won’t be back on the roster next season, so one of them might be keeper worthy. But then again, if Inspectah Uppa Deckah mashes and if Smoak keeps dropping bombs, they could be on the keeper list.

    Thanks for the advice guys. I sent out a feeler email saying that my OF, besides Kemp, was available (I would deal Cruz for Votto being that I’m about fed up with DLing him). Used the Cargo/Rasmus would round out your OF with Hammy and Bruce, line. Also said I would throw in Glaus if he wanted him too, but I know he’s injury prone, but he’s definitely mashing right now.

    I’m sure I’ll be keeping you guys posted. I know you’re on pins and needles! Ha!

  83. Goose says:

    who wins in a roto: Greinke/Loney for Haren/Cantu

  84. Goose says:

    thanks. i offered it from the Greinke side, bc i could use Cantu’s 3b elig (would drop Keppinger, who i picked up for Chipper’s bones) — i already have Pujols and Swish as my 1b and corner, so Loney is on my pine. i hope he goes for it, since i grow tired of not winning with the Zack Attack, ever.

    unless he throws 8 and Ks 12 today, then i’m cancelling it…

  85. I trade Hughes and Alexei Ramirez for Tulo…thoughts. This guy hearts Hughes and I am trying to lowball. Keeper league we keep 10 at the end of the year.

  86. hoju says:

    @Wilsonian: The trouble with trading if the first offer looks fair on paper then it looks like you’re going to swindle the guy and if it looks like a major lowball, then he wants nothing to do with you. Fine balance. I find it a lot harder in fantasy baseball than I do in fantasy football, simply because in football more people are informed of what the player’s potential is (less games, more news outlets, etc), and in baseball there’s so many sabermetrics it’s always a little sketchy (you can find stats to prove anything).

    I tend not to write anything anymore and just send the deal, usually decently fair (probably lean it a little on my side). Or I just write “how is this for a starting point for a discussion?”. It depends who you’re working with, but I find the actual players involved matter much less than how you communicate the offer. The better the league the more honest you have to be about what your goal is – trading has to become mutually beneficial or it will rarely work.

  87. Maitland says:

    @Elbert: I traded Zimmerman away as part of a deal to get Pujols. Couldn’t finesse it to get a 3B back. The dude who had Pujols has Ty Wigginton at 3B, who I did not want. Figured the deal was good for me, just left me spending the next couple months trying to fill 3B before playoffs.

  88. Wileyqed says:

    @Grey: Since you ranked the following “@Fletch: Baker, Cecil, Lewis…”. Where would Cueto fit going forward? Worth dropping for Baker?

  89. Grey

    Grey says:

    @Wileyqed: Nah…


  90. Wilsonian says:

    @hoju: That’s some pretty sound advice regarding trades. I can see how when you send a fair offer, it looks like you’re trying to swindle them. It obviously brings up the thought: “if he wants this guy that bad, then what does he know that I don’t?”. And that’s a damn problem. I generally try to find someone with a whole to fill, and and overflow of something. Like with my attempt at a deal for Votto – he’s got an overflow at 1B, but he’s in need of some help at OF. I need some help at 1B, and have an overflow at OF.

    So far this season I’ve made two trades in an 8 Team H2H League (Bartlett/Buccholz for Cargo; AJ/Span for Wright – me dealing two for one each time and finding a guy that was fed up with Wright at the time and just wanted a change), and two in a 16 Team H2H League (Frank Cord and Ike for Lind and JJ/Carp/C. Lewis/Cantu for Cain/Bills/Capps/Wright – I got the Lind and Wright sides). So it isn’t like I’m running away with the better deals, but I tend to make sure that I’m getting something I really want or need before I do too much movement, especially if my team is pretty solid at the time. I’m currently in 1st in the 8 Teamer and 2nd in the 16 Teamer.

  91. fyodor says:

    Grey, hey.

    I’m using Napoli, holding Montero on DL. When Montero comes off, which of the two would you keep?

  92. Grey

    Grey says:

    @fyodor: Napoli if he gets starts at 1st when Mathis returns…


  93. fyodor says:

    Thanks, Grey.

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