This year in the minors Domonic Brown had a line of 62/19/64/.323/14 and .385/.580/.965.  Let’s recap, whoa/wow/nice/yum-yum/don’t mind if I do and yowsers/that’s lovely/yowsersthat’slovely.  To break that down for the people who skimmed the first two sentences, he has 20/20 potential with plate discipline.  It’s the fantasy baseball equivalent to:  “I don’t think this glazed donut can get any better.”  “How about we sprinkle bacon on it?”  Drool.  By my estimation (and Keith Law’s), he’s the number one prospect in the minors.  (Desmond Jennings is a close 2nd in my book that was rejected by Simon & Schuster.)  Either Werth will be shown the door or Philly fans will kidnap Raul Ibanez and toss him blindfolded into the newly-constructed Octagon in Citizens Flank’s parking lot.  Is Domonic Brown more trouble than he’s Werth?  No, I don’t think so.  Unless we’re talking about spelling his name.  I’d grab Brown in 12 team mixed leagues or deeper.  In keepers, you should own him already.  If you don’t, then now might be a good time.  Or now.  Or now.  Or… You get the point.  Anyway, here’s some more players to buy or sell this week in fantasy baseball:

Psyche!  Before we head into the post, just wanted to say the Commenter and Razzball league standings were updated.  Anyway II, onto the Buy/Sell:


Alex Gordon – Is this the Alex Gordon that was called up three years ago after tearing up the minors only to flame out?  Or is this the Alex Gordon that is called up today that just got done ripping up the minors that will finally fulfill his promise?  I don’t know.  He crushed the minors this year — in 277 ABs, 14 homers, 8 steals, .310 average, .451 OBP and a 1.018 OPS.  He can be a 20+ homer, 15 steal guy over the course of a full season if he doesn’t get in his own way and the Royals give him every day ABs.  I would take a flyer on him for your corner infidel spot for the chance he finally makes good on the promise.  If you’ve heard this story before about Gordon, it’s because you probably have, so don’t drop anyone too valuable.

Chris Johnson –  He’s hitting right now and he has some power potential.  Plus, if he fails you, you can say, “Chris Johnson meet P. Johnson,” while urinating on your computer screen that’s showing your fantasy team.

Yunel Escobar – Hopefully the hand injury he sustained the other day doesn’t get in the way of the revenge he’s currently seeking on the entire Braves organization.

Starlin Castro – In one league, I’m rocking Luis Castillo in my middle infield.  I don’t tell you this because I think you should pickup Castillo or for pity.  I want sympathy!  Castro started off as a hero to millions then he left all his believers scavenging for scraps.  That commie bastard!  Now he’s hitting and stealing bases.

Neil Walker – I’m pretty lukewarm on Walker.  He looks like Coghlan at MI, which is all right.  At least right now, he’s Coghlan when Coghlan’s hitting.

Asdrubal Cabrera – I’d prefer to take an As-Cab to a Walker.

Scott Sizemore – He’s baaack!  And doing nothing like when he left. Who knew a meth’d out Tom Sizemore would be the most reliable Sizemore this year?  I’d grab Scotty for the chance he can make good on his promise.  (He promised me 14/16 in the preseason.  He’s lied thus far.)

Ty Wigginton – His ownership numbers are trending down but that’s wrong, I tell ya.  Guy gets streaky like your acid wash jeans from the 80s.  Unlike the jeans, you don’t have to deny ever owning him.

Jason Bartlett – Welcome back to 103.5 MI-ROQ, where it’s middle infielders all day and night!  Bassoon, tire screech, crazy cackling, triangle, cow bell, more cow bell and one last ding.  Don’t fahgettaBartlett!

Matt Diaz – Dye-As murders lefties, which is similar to being a lefty killer.  Play him against his strong side, sit vs. weak side.  Rinse, repeat.

Drew Stubbs – At 13/18 with a .245 average, he’s having a season that a young Krispie Young would’ve admired.

Juan Rivera –  I’ll be honest, some of these guys are hard to get excited about.  Juan Rivera’s one of those guys.  Wait, who was I talking about?  See!

Jack Cust – If you don’t know what Cust gives you, go back three places and read Matthew Berry.

Luke Scott –  Hard to recommend Scott too highly.  He’s currently hitting and he could get you some homers, but he might not play every day.  It’s like masturbating to The Golden Girls.  It’ll get the job done, but why not switch the channel?

Jordan Zimmermann – I went over J-Z in, like, the last three Buys.  Scroll around the site, will be good for pageviews.

Travis Wood – There could be some ups and downs for Wood.  Oofa!  Thank you, don’t forget to tip your waitresses.  He gets the Astros today.  Giddy up, Wood.  That’s what she said!

Pedro Alvarez – I just went over my Alvarez fantasy.  Click through, it’ll save you time because we both know how busy you are.

J.J. Putz – SAGNOF!

Matt Thornton –  See 1/8th of an inch above.

Sergio Santos – Nothing comes between me and my Sergio Santos.  Except maybe Putz and Thornton.  I’d grab them, in the order I’ve listed them.

Chris Perez – We have to assume Wood will take over when he returns.  But Perez could have the closer job for the rest of the season if Wood is traded.  But II, Making A But Out Of Nothing At All:  Even if Wood returns, he’s far from secure.


Mike Leake – Even Dusty can’t continue to throw Leake as he flies past a reasonable innings limit.  Dusty’ll put him in Harang’s uniform then send him back to the mound.

Kris Medlen – I love me some Medlen.  We practically grew up together.  Or maybe it was just that I owned him in a few fantasy leagues for a few months.  Neverthehoo!  Medlen’s having his innings limited, it’s hard to own that, unfortunately.

Phil Hughes – The Yankees have limited Hughes to 4 starts in the past month and will probably keep him close to the same workload moving forward.  It’s Hughes Rules… Skip him for a start then let him throw a mediocre 5 inning game.

Josh Beckett – Right after he goes against the hapless M’s tonight, you write something like this on your league messageboard, “Now that Beckett is doing great, I have an excess of starters that I want to trade.  Will trade everyone but Beckett because I really believe him… Unless someone makes a good offer.”  Then you take any offer you get for Beckett.  That’s ygolohcysp, baby!

  1. Terrence Mann says:

    Thanks for the razz update, Grey!

    Now, could you push my league index up to about 115 so I can crack the top 20?

    Thanks in advance!

  2. William says:

    @Grey – Hey man, what to do with Jason Bay?

    I have an offer right now – Ryan Ludwick for Jason Bay

  3. MeanMachine says:

    Drop Montero for Weiters? His strikeout rate has really skyrocketed over the past 2 weeks.

  4. Grey

    Grey says:

    @Terrence Mann: No problem. Index is all Rudy, bitch to your leaguemates that they should fix their teams cause it’s bringing down the entire league.

    @William: I’d hold Bay there, but it’s closer than it should be.

  5. Grey

    Grey says:

    @MeanMachine: If you like, tomato-tomahto. Wieters isn’t exactly having a season for the ages.

  6. William says:

    I have Jason Kubel as my starter as I wait out Bay, but it’s getting ridiculous. Bay reminds me of how useless Andruw Jones suddenly became like 3-4 years ago. When is it time to cut the cord and let someone else roll the dice with Bay?

  7. Spartacus says:

    Looks like my team is imploding in my mixed league and one of the other teams wants saves.

    What is your opinion of LaPorta for next year? 2012? Just trying to guage LaPorta’s ceiling.

  8. Grey

    Grey says:

    @William: Now is the time, but I’d want someone better than a 4 OF that was just injured and who may get squeezed for time.

    @Spartacus: Has 25 homer, .275 potential, but he hasn’t exactly shown any indications that he’s there yet.

  9. TheEvilEmpire says:

    *fwap fwap fwap*

    Unnnghhhh…Bea Arthur…..unnnghhhhhHHHHH….YES!


  10. Spartacus says:

    Thanks, Grey. LaPorta has MINOR-ex status in this league. So I can keep him in his minors spot for as long as I want. Without the exemption there is a 450AB or 150IP limit threshold.

    The other guy wants Soriano.

  11. Child Please says:

    10-team 5×5 roto
    Start Burnett vs KC tonight??

  12. bonick says:

    best waiver pickup, assuming no real needs, just wanting to catch lightning in a bottle in H2H?

    Jordan Zimmerman
    Alex Gordon
    Raul Ibanez
    Michael Stanton
    Domonic Brown

  13. Stephen says:

    VIA ROTOWORLD: According to’s Ken Rosenthal, the Royals like Jeff Francoeur, but his $5 million salary is “an obstacle.”
    Less of a problem is that fact that he’s just not very good. If the Royals do like Francoeur, the smart move would be to wait and pick him up after he’s non-tendered this winter. It’s hard to imagine that there will be a lot of demand for him then, and they need to spend these next couple of months figuring out if Alex Gordon fits into their plans.

    If the Royals continue to conduct themselves in this manner, they should become a publicly run team. Pretty sure a Co-GM of George W. Bush and Barack Obama could put a better team out there, even with Dusty Baker and Steve Phillips calling the shots.

  14. Bill Lumbergh says:

    @Grey: Is Hughes a Sell High in a keeper league or do you still like him long term?


  15. akk says:

    at CI should I drop jose lopez for any of them , alex gordon / chris davis / omar vizquel thank you~

  16. big o says:

    nice .
    you’ve run the gamut from vaudeville (tabata/stealers)
    to stand-up (wood/waitress) ,
    and thrown in a little office humor
    for all of the dwights among us .

    skip ahead 500+ years
    and everyman has been transformed into everycomic .

    i’m liking it .
    and have a better understanding as to “why”
    you converse with italicized ghosts .

  17. TheBravesWearPrado says:

    I own Wilson, Medlen, Garcia, and Marcum so I’m worried that half my rotation will not be pitching in the fantasy playoffs due to innings limitations or will be pitching ineffectively due to fatigue (either from inexperience or coming off injury). I’d like to package two to get one starter in return. Who should I target for a package of Wilson/Medlen? I was thinking someone like Hamels or Dempster.

  18. CT Old School says:


    I got Rolen at 3B and Felipe Lopez filling in. Who do you like more at 3B: Alex Gordon, Pedro Alverez or Sizemore?

  19. CT Old School says:

    And was corner infidel a typo or a clever little nugget

  20. Miguel the Mango says:

    Trying to decide who to drop for Brown in a keeper league. Between Arroyo, Niese, and Piñeiro. Any thoughts? Gracias!

  21. Great timing as always Grey. I was just about to ask you if I should drop Medlen for De La Rosa, who just hit the waiver wire.


  22. Grey

    Grey says:

    @TheEvilEmpire: Ha!

    @Spartacus: If you’re out of it, try LaPorta.

    @Child Please: I am in one of two leagues. I wouldn’t if you’re over the IP limit.

    @bonick: Stanton

    @Stephen: Ha… Thanks for the update!

    @Bill Lumbergh: I like him long term.

    @akk: Davis

    @big o: Hehe

    @TheBravesWearPrado: Try for Hamels, but I’d take Dempster too. Send Wilson and Medlen, yeah.

    @CT Old School: Alvarez…Old Nugget, been using it for a while.

    @Miguel the Mango: Pineiro….

  23. charlie batch says:

    stephen drew or bartlett?

  24. big o says:


    one thing to consider is that h2h play-offs do not exactly coincide
    with the mlb play-off picture .

    assuming that the phillies are in the play-off hunt ,
    there’s a chance that hamels might be given short assignments
    during your critical time-frame .

    cust anticipatin’

  25. MeanMachine says:

    Just moved Phil Hughes for Gavin Floyd. I am looking to move all my young pitchers, especially AL East pitchers for established vets i can feel confident in down the stretch. Good trade for me?

  26. @Terrence Mann: I hear ya, man. My league’s index is flailing too in Fantasy Razzball. I figure it balances out the advantage an owner in a less competitive league has in picking up Free Agents. Except, of course, in the case of Grey being ahead of me in the standings despite me having more points. That’s an injustice.

  27. Goose says:

    even though i already have ARam and I-Stew at 3B and CI, i dropped Luke Scott for Gordon. agree/disagree?

    also, i’m streaming AJBurnett today and own Hughes too — considering Phil’s innings cap, who do you think holds more value the rest o’ the way? (keep in mind, i only picked up AJ b/c it’s Yanks vs Royals and a dubya’s a dubya… inshallah…)

  28. ScottyM says:

    Should I keep waiting on Bruce to breakout or should I just move on and open a roster spot for the flavor of the week? Bruce seems to be hitting again but it is all singles and his avg with RISP is que terrible! Beltran, Lind, Beckham, Nyjer, Gordon and Robot are all out there plus more.

  29. @Grey: More likely to get a save op.: Son of Sam Demel or Uh Oh Sergio Santos?

    Rolling with Medlen for one last start I think. Take any of these bums over the kid: Livan, Ohlendorf, Jeanmar Gomez (who?), Barry Enwright?

    Some ugly options out there. I’m thinking abuelo. He looked mighty good against Cincy and I believe he’s scheduled for two next week.

  30. Child Please says:

    12-team weekly lineup points league (1 point per base, 1 point for RBI, R, SB)
    Who would you rather have for the year, Big FraGu or Gomez?

  31. Giant JJ says:

    My Alex Rios for his Jose Bautista and Baked Zito. 20 team

  32. Bring Back Pluto says:

    Headline HOF, Grey!

    OK, I asked this in a very convolyted way in the last post before realizing that, thankfully, there was a new post for comments. Hopefully I can make more sense. 3 questions:

    #1) Do you see any reason to sit Latos tomorrow against the Pirates in his first start back after sneezing too hard?

    #2) Assuming you start him, who do you bump from your roster to make room?:

    DLR, Medlen, Kennedy, Morrow

    #3) Once you’ve cut one of those guys, do you drop any of the remaining three to add Cahill? If so, who?

  33. William says:

    @Grey – What about swapping Garrett Jones for Bay?

  34. kwak says:

    At my Util spot I’ve been alternating crappy Davis’s, Chris and Ike.

    Drop one or both of them for Gordon and/or Domonic Brown?

  35. Rich says:

    Grey, would you do David Price, Pedroia (Already have Phillips and was practically given Kinsler in a deal so I’m looking to deal him anyways), and V-Mart for Halladay and J-Upside????

  36. GopherDay says:

    @Grey: In a 12 team 5X5 ROTO league where I am 60 IP above par, should I accept this trade? I get Krispie, I give Buchholze. This is a keeper, and both of the players only cost a last round pick. Pull the trigger??

  37. Goose says:

    looks like Wells is dealing against the Cards. he’s got to be a “buy” too, right?

  38. Steve says:

    Soto! He’s hitting so well, Lou must be just about due to bench him in favour of Hill for a couple of weeks.

  39. Fletch says:

    @Grey: Did Randy Wells all of a sudden figure out how to pitch? Dealing against the Cards today and has been for a few games now. You trust him going forward?

    Also – Arroyo, R. Wells or Kuroda for the 2nd half?

  40. Chris says:


    Hammel, Niese, Gorzelanny, or Medlen for my final roster spot?

  41. fitz says:



    Miggy Cabrera/Rollins

    fair? which side would you prefer? non-keeper

  42. Swass says:

    Anyone out there, specifically Grey…

    No real ace on my staff (Hamels, Bucholz, Hughes, Randy Wells)…do I trade Konerko for CJ Wilson and Liriano for more depth? Bottom end guys on my staff are Hammel, Magic Wandy, Myers.

  43. ScoutAbout says:

    @Grey: Would you drop Bumgarner to pick up Woods? Giants are going to start skipping Bumgarner in the rotation or alternating him with Wellemeyer in the rotation to limit his innings. I guess I could try and package him in a deal with someone but not sure anyone would buy a SP with an innings limit in my league.

    Also, who would you rather have at MI: Sean Rod, Walker, or Sizemore?

  44. Grey

    Grey says:

    @charlie batch: Bartlett

    @MeanMachine: Looks fine for you.

    @Goose: Agree… Hughes…

    @ScottyM: I’d go with Jones.

    @3FingersBrown: I guess abuelo. I’d definitely roll Medlen out there when he’s going. Santos…

    @Child Please: I don’t know who Gomez is. Carlos?

    @Giant JJ: Eh

    @Bring Back Pluto: Drop Morrow for Latos. I wouldn’t pickup Cahill.

    @William: Sure

    @kwak: Lose Ike for Gordon.

    @Rich: Sure

    @GopherDay: I wouldn’t in a keeper.

    @Goose: I’ve liked Wells even when he didn’t like me. I’d grab him.

    @Steve: Nice!

    @Fletch: Kuroda

    @Chris: Depends on their matchups, I’d let Medlen pitch tomorrow then look at matchups.

    @fitz: Miggy

    @Swass: Sure…

    @ScoutAbout: Nope… Wood’s in danger of losing time at some point too. Walker…

  45. fitz says:

    thanks Grey, do you think it is fair or do you think I will just piss off and insult the other guy ha.

  46. @Grey: Thanks Grey. I dumped Demel for Santos. Needing another start in h2h, I have Duensing going tonight. Think I’ll drop him for Livan and then drop Medlen for the best available start on Sunday.

  47. Child Please says:

    12-team weekly lineup points league (1 point per base, 1 point for RBI, R, SB)
    Who would you rather have for the year, Big FraGu or Jonny Gomes?

  48. GopherDay says:

    Not that anyone really cares, except for Gordon playing time…DeJesus is out for the year with a thumb ligament injury.

  49. Wilsonian says:

    Better DL stash in a 16 Team Keeper: Harden or J.Zimmerman?

  50. Child Please says:

    How would you rank these players in a 5×5 roto league, Fowler, Coghlan, Rajai Davis??

  51. Eddy says:

    Hey Grey what’s up.

    Would you trade away Jaime and Gorzelanny for Jered Weaver?

  52. Grey

    Grey says:

    @Wilsonian: Zimmermann

    @Child Please: Fowler, Davis… For now, could change if Fowler doesn’t hit this weekend.

    @Eddy: Nothing. Sure…

  53. Wilsonian says:

    @Grey: What’s your take on Zimm? Is he supposed to come back this season? I’m not all too familiar with his shizz, but I vaguely remember some commenters mentioning him so when I was searching for a DL stash his name popped to mind. The only thing I know is what the comment on Yahoo said about him not walking anyone in his 13 rehab innings so far.

  54. Grandy owners…have we reached the point where’s droppable in 12 team leagues with 3 OF/1UTIL spots? I’ve been waiting for the rebound after the injury time off, but it’s just not happening, and I’m carrying too many OFers as it is. I had high hopes for Grandy this year, but he’s just been brutal.

  55. Robert says:

    To anyone- I have B. Roberts on DL. Activate him and drop Hudson or hold Hudson to see if Roberts is going to contribute? Thanks.

  56. TastelessGarbage says:

    @Mark Geoffriau: Grandy looks hopeless. Grey, for rest of season drop Grandy or LaPorta for D. Brown? Tempted to drop Grandy and keep LaPorta as backup for C. Pena.

    Also, Brett Anderson or JZimm to replace that Medlen kid?

  57. @TastelessGarbage: I’ve got him in a keeper league…but it doesn’t really play into the decision. I took him way higher than he’d go next year anyway, and our rules state that a player must be rostered all year to retain his original keeper value (any player dropped/added automatically counts against your earliest open pick as a keeper).

  58. Not trying to second guess the Master–do you still like sean Rodriguez over Kelly Johnson and Polanco? I picked him up and he doesn’t seem to play much or do a whole lot of anything–this is a move till Utley gets back-FYI

  59. TastelessGarbage says:

    @Mark Geoffriau: Mark, he’s a really nice guy, easy to cheer for, and it looked like a great situation for him. For my part, he’s been benched 50-75% of the time since early June while waiting for signs of life.

    Grey rightly emphasizes patience with your studs, but poor hitting, almost no SBs and big split issues don’t leave much to work with.

  60. Kevin says:

    Who has the better 2nd half, Rickey Nolasco or Matt Cain?

  61. Steve says:

    Mark – I own him everywhere. In my shallowest league, I’m holding, if for no other reason than to stop him getting hot on someone else’s team.
    Anyone know if CQ will play today?

  62. Grey

    Grey says:

    @Wilsonian: He’s supposed to be back within the month, barring any setbacks.

    @Robert: Drop Hudson.

    @kR Express: I don’t like Sean-Rod over those two now.

    @Kevin: Nolasco

    @Steve: Not sure on CQ. My guess is probably not, but then he’ll three homers as a pinch hitter.

  63. charlie batch says:

    If you have gordon beckham at 2B, would you trade your jered weaver for his uggla?

  64. Steve says:

    big o – you just jinxed him.

  65. Fletch says:

    @Grey: What are your thoughts on Haren potentially pitching for the Bronx Bombers in that hitter-friendly stadium…similar to Javy Vazquez?

  66. big o says:

    posted this on the wrong thread ,
    but for all you die-hards out there ,
    guthrie will shut-down the twinkies , tonight .

    book it , dano .
    and put a fiver on it , for me .

  67. papafrog says:

    Greg, love your blog, read it everyday but one thing bothers me… the way you post the stat lines. Can’t you just post BA, HR, RBI, RS, SB in that order?? As you point out, you and I both know I don’t have time to figure it out the other way, :). Who is with me on this?? Come on, Greg, humor us on this one (minor) request, please.

  68. kwak says:

    Q! is supposed to play today. He could have started Wednesday but Ozzie held him back because of Thursday’s off day.

    The way Andruw Jones has been hitting, Q! will be playing whenever he’s even close to healthy. Jones looks PITIFUL at the plate.

    Putz is the add in the Sox closer situation imho. Thornton is nasty but he’s used too often situationally. Thornton could vulture saves in a lefty heavy 9th, but Ozzie plays right/lefty matchups pretty tight.

  69. Wilsonian says:

    @Grey: cool, thanks! Do you like Harden over Annabelle for the rest of the year?

  70. big o says:


    don’t know if the local talk show was “bulling” me , or not ,
    but , according to weei radio , today ,
    a former boston celtic will be going to NZ
    to play for a team called the Blacks .

    any truth to this ?

  71. @Grey: In honor of the Donkey coming to my squad and DeJesus being nailed to the wall, I had to go change my team’s name from “Don’t F With DeJesus” to “Donkey Punch!”

  72. big o says:

    anyone know why swish isn’t starting tonight ?

  73. Grey

    Grey says:

    @Fletch: Add an extra three-quarters of a run on the ERA and more Wins.

    @big o: I got him for 5 runs in 6 innings and a loss.

    @kwak: I think it’s Putz too.

    @Wilsonian: Neither? Sanchez…

  74. TastelessGarbage says:

    @papafrog: Greg?

  75. Bender says:

    Braves facing a lefty tonight and Die-az is riding the pine? What’s up with that??!? I guess Bobby didn’t get the ‘lefty killer’ memo.

  76. Grey

    Grey says:

    @Bender: Bobby rides him against lefties, look at his career numbers. If he’s sitting tonight, it’s a once in a blue thing.

  77. Grey

    Grey says:

    @Bender: He’s facing a righty tonight.

  78. Steve says:

    big o – yeah I’ve read about that. The Tall Blacks are our national team. Its a play on All Blacks – our world famous national rugby team.
    His dad is a nationalised New Zealander I think so that is what makes him eligible I believe.

  79. Grey

    Grey says:

    @Steve: Don’t think that team name would fly in the US.

  80. Wilsonian says:

    @Grey: ha! Unfortunately these are the best options in my 16 Team H2H Keeper:

    Annabelle, Zimmermann, Harden, Hunter, Duensing, Gio, Holland.

    Right now I have Annabelle on my roster and Harden on the DL. You obviously have Zimmermann ahead of Harden, do you have him ahead of Annabelle, too? What about the other three I have listed…do you like them more than Snachez for the time being/rest of the year? I guess what I’m looking for is a ranking of those fine starting pitchers.

  81. Kazmere says:

    Afternoon, Grey. 11 tm roto, 3rd outfielder: Stubbs or Grandy?

  82. Kazmere says:

    @big o: @Grey: Swisher – sore Achilles

  83. Bender says:

    Haha yes, sorry about that, I was misled by the Yahoo ‘matchup rating’ which for Diaz today says “Has 9 hits in 21 ABs (.429 Batting Average) vs. other lefties with good changeups since last year” and didn’t actually look to see who the pitcher was. Never mind!

  84. Alex says:

    I need a bat bad in my 20 team Head to Head league which SP should i trade out of Lincecum, Greinke, Price and Gallardo. Or should i stand pat and just dominate pitching categories every week?

  85. ThE sHiT says:

    @Grey: Brown over Gordon 4 overall production once he comes up rite?

  86. Terrence Mann says:

    @Rudy Gamble:

    I really wasn’t concerned with the index… for now. It doesn’t seem my league has changed index the whole year. Do you just recalculate them at the end of the year or is it an ongoing thing?

    @Greg: Who the hell is Greg?

  87. Grey

    Grey says:

    @ThE sHiT: Assuming he plays every day, yeah.

  88. Terrence Mann says:


    No friggin way. My league hasn’t budged from 100 the whole year. Not 99 or 101 even one single time.

  89. Grey

    Grey says:

    @Terrence Mann: Well, I guess don’t quote me in it, but I asked Rudy earlier in the season and I could’ve swore he told me it automatically recalculates.

  90. Terrence Mann says:

    @Grey: That may be the case, but if so, I’m calling shenanigans!

  91. Grey

    Grey says:

    @Terrence Mann: I’ll make sure Rudy sees your comment. We’ll let him clarify.

  92. ThE sHiT says:

    @Grey: Of course. Ive had Boesch, Medlen, Garcia for most of the time theyve been very valuable. No one in my league trades, so im stuck lookin for the next hot OF pickup between Brown, Snider, n Gordon(once he gets elig). Gotta keep my eye out for how those guys do. Thx as always Grey.

  93. Ben says:

    Ya Keith Law. The same d-bag that gets all cocky like he knows more than every team in baseball. The same stat nerd that was let go by a terrible run organization (which he was equally responsible for). The same guy who STILL rips the Cubs for taking Tyler Colvin at #14 in the 1st round (yet he still fails to claim who he would’ve taken instead). The same guy who had Pedro Alvarez rated #35 among his prospects… why???….zzzzz…..crickets… crickets… chirp… chri…. because he doesn’t like his swing. Good going Keith Law. Your the best!! You get paid by ESPN because you talk about novels and board games you flippin geek…. ha hah ahahahahahahahaha

    Happy Friday!!!

  94. mr baseball says:

    Erik Bedard

    Geoff Baker of the Seattle Times has a little bit of an update on Erik Bedard and like most news with Bedard lately, it doesn’t sound particularly good.

    Bedard, who underwent an MRI earlier this week and consulted with surgeon Dr. Lewis Yocum and team medical director Dr. Edward Khalfayan, is scheduled to fly to New York next week in order to get a third opinion on his sore left shoulder.

    The 31-year-old left-hander was all set to make his return from the disabled list earlier this month, however he was scratched at the last minute after it was revealed that he suffered a setback. Bedard, who underwent season-ending surgery last August, hasn’t appeared in a major league game since last July 25.

    Between today’s news and Bedard telling reporters earlier this week that he is “probably not” going to pitch again this season, it would be no surprise to learn that there is yet another surgery in his future.

  95. fitz says:

    anybody else watching the Phillies game on MLBN? Phillies ball girl is hot! Looks young though but hey who am I to guess at ages?

  96. AL KOHOLIC says:

    @fitz: votto just roped one out

  97. big o says:

    if your name is not simon ,
    you won’t be closing out games in baltimore , this year .

    cust kayin’

  98. royce! says:

    @big o: Just want to pay my respects for the Guthrie call. I have no idea how you could have predicted that.

  99. big o says:


    harmonic convergence ?

    a delicate balance of prescription drugs ??

    i certainly couldn’t do this for a living .

  100. cruisinkc says:

    Trade Granderson for Nolasco?

  101. big o says:

    righties hit diaz

  102. BSA says:

    So here I am in CT, checking scores, lurking Razzball, Facebooking, and I see a friend who lives in Seattle – on FB. C’mon! Get off FB and get to the game. Great stadium and cheap tickets.

  103. Grey

    Grey says:

    @fitz: Grass on the field…

    @big o: Well done with the Guthrie call.

    @3FingersBrown: Wow, I wish I were in NY. That’s cool. You gotta go.

    @cruisinkc: I’d take Nolasco.

    @big o: Ha… Payback.

    @BSA: Yeah, no one likes the M’s, except for about 12 very vocal people.

  104. royce! says:

    @Grey: GO M’S!!! I deserve to learn my lesson for having drafted Beckett!!!

  105. Grey

    Grey says:

    @royce!: You should’ve traded him for Tillman and Jones.

  106. BSA says:

    @royce!: Draft day the Red Sox fan in me struggled to not pick him up and then the fantasy baseball manager in me reminded me of the 2009 campaign and I pulled the trigger on FHer.

  107. Terrence Mann says:


    A few years ago, I lived in a podunk town in western Nebraska and the local paper ran an article about Hill. He ran an Italian restaurant in a different podunk town (North Platte).

    A few weeks after the article, I saw he was arrested for cocaine posession. I’m surprised he didn’t friggin die in prison.

  108. Wilsonian says:

    Handy Randy Wells, Richard Romero, Maxwell Silverhammer Scherzer. Please rank these gentlemen for the remainder of the season in a league with W, L, SV, BB, Ks, ERA, WHIP, Ks/9. Thank you for your time and consideration.

    Side note: blame this posting on a lower back strain from pretending tt be Mr. Olympia and the resultant drug concoction. Ha!

  109. Wilsonian says:

    @Wilsonian: could you please include my cousin, CJ Wilson, in this list? Many thanks…

  110. royce! says:

    @Grey: Ha! I think the M’s might be bankrolling the Royals so that there appears to be a team that makes stupider decisions. Like an idiot tax.

    @BSA: Huh. Can you draft my team for me next year?

    It frustrates me that people don’t show up to M’s games. I grew up in Seattle, but moved away before they imploded the Kingdome. I’ve lived in LA and NY and now am in SD, and while I dislike most of the NY & LA teams, I have to respect that people actually show up to their games (except the Clippers- I went to a few of their games and it was extraordinarily depressing). People are finally showing up to SD games, now that it seems legitimately possible that they could make the playoffs. All this fair weather makes for a lot of fair weather fans.

  111. chrisbenson says:

    grey, i know you said that 2011 was the year of delmon young…any idea on what his final numbers for 2011 will look like? hes on my team in a keeper…dont know if its worth it to hang onto him over others.


  112. chrisbenson says:

    wow…so, would you feel comfortable moving kemp then? we can only keep 6…i have no SP this year, so moving kemp would allow me to get a great return, and i could keep delmon.

  113. Grey

    Grey says:

    @chrisbenson: No, I’d want Kemp by a wide margin.

  114. chrisbenson says:

    ok, tanks.

  115. @Grey: I wish I could, I’d be there in a heartbeat. I’ll be working long into the night.

    @Terrence Mann: I’m not surprised to hear that at all. I remember hearing him on Howard Stern a few times over the years and he always sounded ski-ed out of his dome.

    I actually went to JHS with Chris Serrone, who played the young Henry.

  116. big o says:

    kelly jo hits for the cycle .

    meanwhile , my guys hit more like betty , billie , and bobbie joe .

  117. ViagraFalls says:

    Can I now safely get rid of Clayton Richard? I gave him the benefit of the doubt over his last few starts, benching him to see how he came out. And aside from one instance in which I let him pitch (and got rocked), he shows no signs of evening out, even at home.

    I’m still on the fence with what I want to do with DLR, as I am waiting to see if he can pick it up again. Last start was better, but I somehow don’t trust him. Part of me wants to just drop one or both and pick up someone like Axford for some available productivity.

  118. Bill Lumbergh says:

    @Grey: I’m a lifelong Mariners fan, and I’m going to tomorrow’s game. I guess that makes 13 M’s fans in here!

  119. @Bill Lumbergh: Hey you see the mini-blow up in the M’s dugout after Figgy let that errant throw go by? Hopefully this’ll light a fire under their asses.

  120. tall chicks says:

    “I can throw a ball over home plate every four or ten games.” Nice site Grey, hilarious.

  121. Steve says:

    TMZ have the tape of what went down between Figgy and Wakamatsu.

    Figgy: “I own Aardsma with the League handcuff. Why the f*** do you keep bringing them in in non-save situations?”

    Wakamatsu: “How does that save thing work again?”

  122. Bring Back Pluto says:

    Grey (and/or anyone awake)

    I plan to run an extra RP out there for a week or two. I know SVs are impossible to predict, but if you were hoping to predict them nonetheless, who do you go with:

    Ryan Franklin
    John Axford

    (yes it’s a shallow league). Thanks!

  123. Would you do Zobrist for O-furcal? Furcal is doing so well and a SS is more valuable than 2B for me.
    Also would you do Jason Bay for Span? Obviously my valuation of Bay is dropping.

  124. Howie Met Your Mother says:

    Would you drop Jason Hammel for Jordan Zimmerman?

  125. Howie Met Your Mother says:

    Also, JZ has to be more valuable for a DL slot than Penny or Webb right?

  126. pubscout says:

    So if Werth gets traded to TB he plays…where? Will he lose playing time?

  127. alvaro says:

    Would you trade Konerko and E Santana for Tex?

    Also would you do Strasburg for J Upton? or Gardener? or is neither worth it

  128. alvaro says:

    Also if he says no to the first one would you do Konerko and Strasburg for Tex

  129. pubscout says:

    Any thoughts on Cruz/Ethier for Halladay? Also have Dread Pirate, Bautista, Beltran, in my OF and solid in batting, draggin’ in pitching categories, but can make up ground.

  130. sean says:

    @alvaro: Depends on what your pitching is like. I would not do Strasburg for an elite hitter because he may be limited to 50 or so innings from here on out.

    If Ervin is expendable, I’d pull the trigger for Teixeira. How many full seasons has Erv pitched since ’05?

    @pubscout: starting RF. TB isn’t lighting the world on fire offensively and Zobrist can move back to 2B. Bartlett and Brignac split time at SS. I read that this deal is unlikely though.

  131. sean says:

    @pubscout: Price is high, especially with Beltran being average at best right now. Joey Bats would be your only power, and I wouldn’t want to rely on that. This is a late August desperation move. I mean, if you’ve got top points on lock in the offensively categories, then it’s not like you can score a 13, but if are only toward the top in offense, you’re giving up too much.

  132. alvaro says:

    Thanks, I’m thinking the other manager may want Strasburg because of the name value. My team hastaken a huge dive since the ASG I’ve dropped from 5 to 9 in a points league

    The scoring is like this:
    AB -1 Hits +1 Single +5 Double +10 Triples +15 HR +20 BB/HBP +3 K -1 SB +10 CS -5 RBI +5 Runs +5

    Pitching W +30 L -15 S +30 IP +15 HBP/BB-3 K+3 ER -10 Hits -5 CG +15 SO +15

    Im still within striking distance of the top 5 of the league and the trade deadline is necxt week, the team I’m trading with is in last place and his just playing to avoid the bottom 2 (since you pay an extra fee for this) and has been sending trades all morning

    Its a weekly league with 3 OFs and one UT also 5 Ps (Reliever or Starter)
    My team is Olivo/Dunn/Figgings/Rolen/Rollins/Kemp/Pence/Markakis/Konerko
    Bench Span/Neil Walker DL B. Roberts

    Pitching we starts 5 per week

    Thanks and sorry for the long Post

  133. chrisbenson says:

    grey…is shaun marcum going to get shut down soon? a lot of my guys are in either uncharted IP or in IP jumps from their last season…

  134. Bill Lumbergh says:

    @3FingersBrown: Not holding my breath. This team is undisciplined and doesn’t do the small things needed to make up for their lack of talent. Yuck!

  135. Grey

    Grey says:

    @pubscout: Don’t see why they’d trade for him and then not play him.

    @alvaro: I’d take Tex… I’d take Upton.

    @pubscout: Agree with Sean.

    @chrisbenson: Wouldn’t get shutdown unless he’s hurt, which is possible.

  136. pat says:

    trade lee/uggla for halladay/utley/figgins?

  137. Grey

    Grey says:

    @pat: I’d take Halladay side.

  138. Grey

    Grey says:

    @pat: Assuming that’s Derrek Lee.

  139. pat says:

    @Grey: its cliff lee, still do it?

  140. Grey

    Grey says:

    @pat: If you need speed from your MI (Figgy), or it’s a keeper, yeah, do it. It’s fair either way.

  141. Terrence Mann says:

    Jason Kendall……SAGNOF!!!!!

  142. BSA says:

    Man – Gordon is just not getting good contact. Not whiffing like Davis but also not getting it out of the infield.

  143. Wilsonian says:

    Would you pick up Castro and drop Andrus in an 8 Team H2H Keeper? I’m leaning towards “no” but Andrus isn’t doing shizz and Castro seems like he might be in a nice little groove right now.

  144. Tom Emanski says:

    I’m kinda shocked by Castro’s season. The guy is 20. This means he’s gonna suck next year though, right?

  145. That’s one boring Buy list! Almost as boring as the Dbacks. Only thing positive I have to say is if the Phillies want Haren, I’d want Brown+some pitchers, which would give them at least one interesting prospect to call up in August.

    PS I’m assuming rants about unending freak injuries to over half of your 1-5th round picks on both clubs are still welcomed!

  146. Grey

    Grey says:

    @Terrence Mann: Ha

    @BSA: He looked lost the last two days.

    @Wilsonian: Nope

    @Tom Emanski: Not sure if you’re being facetious, I get more worried about young pitchers their 2nd year because many times they’re coming off their biggest IP year to date.

    @Elijah: Any rants are welcome.

  147. @Grey:

    My friends league team is doing very well despite losing Utley and Tulo so Im not really that frustrated fantasy-wise. The RCL team was crippled tho, there’s no recuperating, but thats more deflating than frustrating. I drafted OK, but whatcha gonna do when every top hitter you got is on the DL except David Longoria.

    The Dbacks rant I need to work up to for it to be suitably demonstrative.

  148. Grey

    Grey says:

    @Elijah: Where you been anyway? Don’t think I’ve seen you around.

  149. Steve says:

    Bald Jim needs to change his name to Walker.
    What a nightmare.

  150. Grey

    Grey says:

    @Steve: Reverend Jim would be an improvement.

  151. Wilsonian says:

    @Steve: I’m starting to think he’s overstayed his welcome on my team…

  152. Dumbmutt says:

    Delicious duo of Jimenez and Garcia today. Good thing I already had Volquez and Hughes to even it out this week.

  153. Chris says:


    Thoughts on MMD v. Kelly Johnson for the rest of the year?

  154. @Grey:

    Lurking some, sulking some, mostly trying to roll solo a bit. I
    figure its the best way to improve past a certain point. To an extent I gotta see for myself why you were right about certain concepts and players before the season by enacting faulty ones and seeing why they failed, and digest what I’ve learned.

    That being said, probably a good time to see if you have any tips now that we’re come farther than we have to go.

    10 Team HtH Top 4 teams make the playoffs 7×7 (Total Bases, OPS) (Losses, Batting avg against)

    C John Buck
    1b Joey “Sabotage” Votto
    2b Flippy Lopez
    3b Mini Donkey
    SS Alexei Ramierez (Why do people draft him then drop him after 2 months?)
    CI Big Donkey
    OF Matt Holliday
    OF CarGo
    OF Extra Krispie Young
    OF Nelson Cruz
    Util Denard Dawg
    Bnch Marlon Byrd
    Bnch Pedro Alvarez
    DL Chase Utley
    DL Tulowiski

    SP Josh “Bullet Train” Johnson
    SP Dan Haren
    SP Cole Hamels
    SP Mat Latos
    SP Filthy Sanchez

    RP Heath Bell
    RP Octavio Dotel
    RP David Aardsma
    RP JJ Putz
    RP Chris Perez
    RP Tim Stauffer

    (Yeah I got 1 too many RP but I’d rather have a useful RP than a SP who’s gonna rack up L’s and toast my ratios. My Starters get enough K’s that I can run with 5-6.

    MI Ian Desmond

  155. Whooops Desmond is supposed to have been after Alexei. I’m in fine shape, 2nd place and gaining on 1st. If Utley and Tulo are healthy for the playoffs I’m feeling very good about this team.

  156. Steve says:

    Hmmm. Cust or Scott?
    Of course I went with Scott.
    Day’s not over of course, but…

  157. Grey

    Grey says:

    @Chris: MMD has more power potential and Johnson has a better average and Runs.

    @Elijah: That looks like a solid team, you’re losing with them? You must been getting unlucky. What’s Stauffer’s purpose? You have Holds?

    Doh, just read your second comment. So this team is winning? Yeah, makes sense. Imagine that only thing you’re really lacking is Wins. Your hitting is kinda stacked. Donkey-style! If this isn’t a keeper, I’d package Latos and Alvarez for an SP that will be reliable come H2H playoff time.

    @Steve: Same diff. Scott just hit one yesterday, no?

  158. Steve says:

    That was then, this is now, Grey! Didn’t own him yesterday (emoticon).

  159. joe from point pleasant says:

    after a season of trying to “sell high” on this guy, i think it’s finally time that i come to terms with C.J. Wilson being the real deal. Were now almost 100 games into the season and he is still sitting with a 3.03 era. He misses just enough bats to satisfy my appetite for K’s, and the best stat is that lefties are hitting .090 vs him! 0.90!!! righties don’t fare much better at .235. he allows only 6.58 h/9, andddd he has the same name as pamela anderson’s character from baywatch! wowser!

    sorry for the rant. anyway, i was wondering who you like better the rest of the way.. Elvis Andrus or Starlin Castro. Andrus hasn’t been running enough and when he does hes been getting caught. Castro seems to have adjusted the big league pitching very nicely and provides a little pop. He is OPS’ing over .800 which is superb for a SS. I would hold Andrus regardless, so the question is, should i add Castro and play him over Andrus? What do you think?

  160. Carl Spackler says:

    Rank the rest of the way….Hammel, Randy Wells, Medlen, Tom Gorz, Morrow

  161. @Grey:

    Nono, we’re in 2nd, almost 1st after a 13-1 romp this week(s). Donkey style was the plan. With Total bases and OPS, first team to 300 HR’s is a probable champ.

    Stauffer is SP eligable so I can slot him in there unlike most RP’s (3 SP slots, 3 RP slots, 3 P slots). I’ll likely bring back Bronson Arroyo for him next week, I just canned him out of pique after that last outing.

  162. Wilsonian says:

    Who wins: Ubaldo/Perez for Hamels/Soria? And yes I’m fed up with Ubaldo and trying to get rid of him…

  163. Grey

    Grey says:

    @Steve: Hehe… Gotcha.

    @joe from point pleasant: Nice rant. If you can play Castro without dropping Andrus, go for it.

    @Carl Spackler: Wells, Hammel (at home, weird!), Gorze….

    @Elijah: Gotcha… That works then.

    @Wilsonian: Looks fair, I’d take Hamels side if I needed saves and was worried Perez will lose his job.

  164. @Grey:

    More wins would obviously help, but with Losses also counting its a very different environment. I think its a nice change from regular HtH as streaming is anything but a no-brainer, but at the same time its a useful situational tactic.

    Guys like Greinke, Oswalt, Haren, and F-Her lose a ton of value being on losing teams, and streaming becomes more of a backup plan when you are behind when the weekend rolls around. With 4 instead of 3 ratio stats, and the Losses category I mainly try to be a Sv and K whore while keepin the ratios low.

    To a large extent its working within the environment at hand, these guys hoard starters while disdaining the JJ Putz’ types that I consider a respectable replacement for lackluster SP’s I had like Ely, Kennedy, and Wandy. Gio Gonzalez and a few other random streamers pop up when needed.

    Its a very fun league, lotta trash talk, everyone but me is from NJ or NY and Mets/Yanks fans, all up to me to represent the West Coast.

  165. Grey

    Grey says:

    @Elijah: re: Losses – Gotcha. The time difference probably helps you with free agent pickups.

  166. tall chicks says:

    Should I give B. Roberts/V-Mart/Strasburg to get Kinsler/Papelbon? I need a closer, I’m solid at C with McCann, and I’ve got a solid rotation that includes Lester, F-Her, Verlander, Nolasco, and Hudson. Plus, come playoff time Strasburg is useless.

  167. @Grey:

    As for the RCL league, its just impossible to withstand longterm injuries to 4 of your 6 top picks (And the others are David Longoria and Nick Singleakakis). I make a few moves still to be sporting but Humpty Dumpty is done til next year.

  168. gza says:

    Josh Johnson/Granderson for Votto/Roberts. Non keeper. Which side would you prefer?

  169. papafrog says:

    @grey: OMG, I inadvertently wrote “Greg” in my post from yesterday, please accept my humble apology … brain freeze!! lol. I’m a Brady Bunch fan, what else can I say? Anyway, GREY, as I said yesterday, I love your blog, read it everyday but one thing bothers me… the way you post the stat lines. Could you just post BA, HR, RBI, RS, SB in that order?? Sincerely, brain freeze man. :)

  170. Grey

    Grey says:

    @gza: Votto side, but it’s fair.

    @papafrog: It’s under advisement.

  171. Yet another HR for Joey. “Sabotage” for MVP! I can’t see trading him for any pitcher unless I was in dire need. It would be like giving your right arm to get a chance at the show. ouldn’t that make you Jim Abbot and AL-Only? Hmm.

  172. broadstreetbrawler says:


    Currently comfortably going to make the playoffs (thanks razzball), so i’m mulling this offer

    uggla and cj wilson for utley and elsbury. what ya think? would have to use a stop gap like beckham at second.

  173. broadstreetbrawler says:

    wish there was a way to delete comments here, so league mates wouldnt see them. lets add that feature!

    and since it was my suggestion, I should get some VIP capabilities like getting all my questions answered…. errr wait a second

  174. broadstreetbrawler says:

    Grey, what if i was Liriano and uggla for utley and elsbury?

  175. broadstreetbrawler says:

    still dueable?

  176. Looks like it’s time for the Rockies to pay the piper for alll those 120+ pitch outings from Ulbaldo earlier this year. Hopefully something doesn’t blow out compensating.

  177. papafrog says:

    @Grey: Thanks, that’s all I can ask for … Keep up the great (and witty) writing!

  178. Grey

    Grey says:

    @Elijah: Yeah, but he’s also not a 1.50 ERA guy either, so it was bound to come up, 120 pitches or not.

    @papafrog: Thanks!

  179. VinWins

    VinWins says:

    Ordonez out 6 – 8 weeks

  180. Wilsonian says:

    Would you take any of Ervin, Wells, CJ, Cueto, Volquez or Romero over Lewis?

    Cats: W, L, SV, BB, K, ERA, WHIP, Ks/9

  181. @Grey:

    Definitely, but the way hes trending he might end up a 3.75 ERA guy. He’s had what, 1 solid outing out the the last 6? It seems like either they don’t plan on retaining him longterm or they are willing to risk his career in a year which they aren’t serious pennant contenders. They don’t have the pitching as it stands to do so, and if Ulbaldo fries his shoulder the franchise is set back years. You gotta have 2-3 money starters if you want to win it all, in my mind at least. It’s not like they are the ’96 Indians on Offense either. NL West as a whole is filled with teams that lack solid direction. For the Padres, with their talent base, to be in 1st is ridiculous no matter how solid the pitchings been. Giants wasting their window by not aquiring a big bat, Dbacks are a mess of an overall organization, and the Dodgers are just totally clueless. I could run that team better….there is no reason they couldn’t be the team to beat every year in the NL, the formula for winning in Dodger stadium is very simple, there is no reason they shouldnt be in the series several times a decade. The 88 team was pitiiful offensively, but they won because they had a winning formula. and got a little lucky. Other than the Cards there’s really no one who can equal their resources. Sure. there’s the Mets and the Cubs but both are what they are, and its not scary except for their fans.

  182. Bodymore says:

    Need to try and steal a win tomorrow

    Bush vs Washington
    Davis vs Cleveland
    Masterson vs TB

    Would need to drop Gorzo or Morrow, worth it?

  183. Grey

    Grey says:

    @VinWins: Thanks for the heads up!

    @Wilsonian: Nope

    @Elijah: Yeah, I agree with how Ubaldo’s trending. But if I were to say to you in March you can have a 3.50 ERA from Ubaldo, you’d take it. Overall, I do agree with you about the division. The Rockies aren’t a very good team overall and only look good when compared to their division contemporaries. We had this discussion in March about the D-Backs’ chances. They had no pitching then, still don’t. I still think the Dodgers pull out the division by the skin of their teeth. Or by the collapse of the Padres. Then the playoffs are a crapshoot. Any team can win any series.

    @Bodymore: Davis… Drop Morrow…

    EDIT: Words.

  184. Bodymore says:

    @Grey: Woops, still had Buchoolz on the DL so I had to drop Morrow for him. Drop Gorzo, or maybe Perez?

  185. chrisbenson says:

    pelfrey worth another look?

  186. @Grey:

    I sure wanted Ulbaldo, but others snagged him up first and I targeted Hamels who might actually have the better year. The Rockies, they might never win a WS in that stadium. The only reasonable scenario to me is if they had 2-3 elite strikeout artists of his caliber with a couple more league average K oriented guys. So, here they are, finally after many years with 1 piece of the puzzle, an intregral piece which would be very difficult to replace, let alone add the needed #2 guy, and they are frying him out in mundane early season contests. BRILLIANT. If you’re gonna fry a pitcher, do it like Philly did with Hamels: chasing a ring, or at the least have lots of spares. At least they’ve been respectable in probably the weakest Stadium/Financial state in the West, but that’s what they have to plan around.

    As for the DBacks, I’m OK with losing, they’ve done plenty of it Post-Colangelo, and Im still listening. But for the front office to field the worst bullpen in ML history then act like they didn’t see it coming…well thats just contemptible. From Day 1 of Year 1 the bullpen has been neglected badly at the farm level, an afterthought in free agency, and when they did by chance develop a good player, they were traded or let go. Furthermore, you can see a team’s DNA from the prospects that come up. Dbacks DNA are pitchers that throw hard, often into the mid 90’s but don’t throw strikes, particularly breaking stuff, and typically struggle to induce double plays. As for the hitters, while often gifted with both speed and power, they have trouble making contact, are more often than not, erratic in all the little things (baserunning, advancing runners, stealing techniques,bunting, etc). And as for defense, if they do develop a prime hitter, they will call him up while painfully raw at defense and/or shortly after changing their position.

    Now if you don’t know what to do in any given situation, that’s forgivable, as are mistakes. In this case, the best advice is identify who does what they are doing and shamelessly imitate it. And, so it happens, there’s a team in Minnesota that provides a ready blueprint for the most successful mid-market team in the modern era. For the pitchers, throw strikes, induce grounders, often sporting nasty stuff but itending to favor. Go for power or speed but typically not both, instead favoring contact hitters. Defense is emphasized as well as fundamentals like baserunning and the novel concept of hitting cutoff men. It’s as if they pervertedly did exactly the opposite of a proven and easily imitable forumula that would be suitable for their ballpark (hitter’s park with moderate to above average finances. Then, after bumbling thru a series of dismally bad years, they stockpile several HOF caliber talents and numerous lesser talents. Eagerly, they attempt imitate the World Series formula of 2 top starters by trading off most of the remaining prospects for Dan Haren. Seems good right? But wait! the position players are a completely different group this time. Might that not be a consideration? Instead of savvy veteran line drive hitters like Grace, Finley, Gonzo, sprinkled with some power and overall the top defensive team in the NL, you have basically the opposite. Its as if our hapless execs had been told that the key to a satisfying meal at their local restaunant should include a remarkably good red wine, so they proceeded to pair it with raw sushi and expect the same experience as the well-meaning advisor had had with his Beef Wellington. Regardless, It seemed to still work out ok as they made it to the NLCS. The team seemed poised for greatness but instead dissapoinments were followed by ineptitude and mixed messages/missions of developing the stud young talents and competing. Webb’s injury was if anything fortunate, as it was a ready excuse for failure. Into this uncertainty was thrust a novice manager with little charisma or leadership.Now here we are, its next year and the team slogs on with its window closed and bright spots reduced to a handful of exciting young hitters intermixed with short-timers likely already focused on their next contract. Finally we have the ill-fated Webb, gone, Haren probably dumped to replenish the depleted talent on the farm teams that dont teach the right skills, or perhaps lack continuity of focus between the different levels. Its right back to where they were at the beginning of this owner’s tenure, but with a richer and more exciting core of talent. featuring Krispie, Reynolds, and the Uber-talented OF with the potential to be the most dynamic OF in MLB. Also, at least they matched their ill-considered Farm DNA with the Manager DNA, Gibby having himself been an Uber-Talented OF who came up and struggled with major league pitching, injuries, raw and inexperienced play defensively; striking out too much but possessing blazing speed and excellent power. Could be worse I suppose but mid market teams cant afford flounder away windows of opportunity that the big boys can to some extent. This team is a few years away from contending with their sad dearth of ML pitching or prospects to bolster. Still, I think longterm they are in better shape than Colorado merely due to Coors Park being so undesirable.

    *Fantasy Note: As long as Gibson is Manager, expect guys like Krispie and Upton to be green lighted to steal at will, boosting their value, aka the Anti-Alcides effect.

  187. Grey

    Grey says:

    @Bodymore: Gorze…

    @chrisbenson: In a 18 team league?

    @Elijah: Very well said. I agree with you on all your points. Only thing I’ll add, which is more a continuation on something you mentioned, the D-Backs are probably one of the worst teams record-wise that is still very watchable. This is because of your point about power pitchers and hitters with speed and power. Those guys are fun. Most teams that don’t win (Astros, Orioles, M’s) are difficult to watch. Not the D-Backs.

  188. Donnie Baseball says:

    Take a shot on Betemit? Or go with a minor leaguer with upside like Kila, Minor, or Morrison?


  189. Howard says:

    Morning Grey, From a keeper standpoint:
    OF3 Pence, Bruce or Pacman
    OF4 Fowler or Colvin
    Thanks as usual!

  190. Grey

    Grey says:

    @Howard: Bruce, Pence… Fowler, Colvin…

  191. cubbies299 says:

    Would you put Zambrano or Michael Saunders in your minors in a keeper league?

  192. pwire says:

    which side do you like better… A. Pujols, O.Dotel for A.Gonzalez, Cliff Lee, M.Gonzalez

  193. Grey

    Grey says:

    @pwire: Lee side, assuming that’s Adrian.

  194. Rich says:

    Grey, what do you make of Jimenez? Would he be considered a buy, or would he not be worth the risk?

  195. Grey

    Grey says:

    @Rich: He wasn’t the pitcher he was in April and he’s not the pitcher he is right now. He’s between those two.

  196. Sandoval and Stubbs for David Ortiz. Giving up too much? I’d play Tabata in the space opened up.

  197. Steve says:

    Is there anything more annoying than needing a steal to tie up a category, and having your ghuy picked off?

    Looking at you, Reyes.

  198. Steve says:

    Is there anything more annoying than needing a steal to tie up a category, and having your guy picked off?

    Looking at you, Reyes.

  199. Steve says:


  200. Grey

    Grey says:

    @Frank Kim: It’s a bit much.

    @Steve: I think it’s more annoying when you need a steal so you bench someone, say Markakis, and you play someone like McCutchen and the steal ends up on the bench.

    @Steve: See above.

  201. Steve says:

    @Grey: You’re right both times.

    Or perhaps you do get the steal you want and your opponent gets one from Prince to win the category.

  202. sean says:


  203. Steve says:

    @sean: Those prospects had better be good ones.

  204. Steve says:

    Gutierrez on in a tied game.

    Buckle up.

  205. BSA says:

    @Steve: I was wondering who would be in next.

  206. Howard says:

    How about that Jansen dude! He’s not even available yet at ESPN. Still a catcher. SAGNOF possibilities?

  207. Steve says:

    @BSA: In the unlikely event that he throws a clean inning, a vulture win will be very helpful.

    Not in the RCL, though. Nothing can help me there.

  208. Grey

    Grey says:

    @sean: Thanks for the heads up!

    @Howard: He’s a middle reliever.

  209. GopherDay says:

    @Steve: Wow…The prospects aren’t even good ones! The angels got a STEAL! Unless of course the Player to be named later is one of their top prospects. That would change things, but still….

  210. BSA says:

    Okie Dokie can just stay out west.

  211. GopherDay says:

    Well the Astros better get a deal better than the Haren one for Roy O….That trade is redonkulous!

  212. BSA says:

    Dude – Qualls is buried in that bullpen!

  213. Eddy says:

    Angels got a massive steal there. They didn’t even give up any of their premier prospects. I’m more interested in how you perceive Saunders now Grey.

  214. Howie says:

    @Grey: In my NL-only 4×4 league, the Haren trade offers an opportunity to optionally replace him. Question is whether his move to the AL would be reason to slide a Bumgarner, Cueto, J. Sanchez, Padilla, or Jurrjens into that slot for the remainder of this season? ERA and WHIP are the critical pieces with this move.


  215. GopherDay says:

    @Eddy: Apparently they PTBNL is one of the angels top prospects, and the Diamond Backs really like him. But not Mike Trout.

  216. Grey

    Grey says:

    @Eddy: Saunders is not a good pitcher.

    @Howie: Are you asking Haren or one of those guys? I’d hold.

  217. Grey

    Grey says:

    @Chris: Coghlan… Gio…

  218. royce! says:

    No way this Haren trade is not going to get vetoed. Smacks of collusion!

  219. Wilsonian says:

    What’s your opinion on these possible deals:

    1) Wright/Romero for Zimmerman/Price;

    2) Quentin/Lewis for Haren;

    3) Quentin/Lewis for Greinke?

    I’m assuming those last two get rejected, but I sent them out anyway. Just wondering your thoughts.

  220. Grey

    Grey says:

    @Wilsonian: Zimmerman side… Quentin… Quentin…

  221. Wilsonian says:

    @Grey: word…thanks dood…

    What if the first offer was Wright/Lewis for Zimm/Price, still Zimm side?

  222. Grey

    Grey says:

    @Wilsonian: I’d take Wright, but it’s pretty lateral.

    @royce!: Hammel, but it’s a tough one.

  223. BigFatHippo says:

    @Grey: You heard it here first…………….

    Ryan Ludwick about to sign a 4 year, 32 mil contract with the Cards.

  224. BSA says:

    You know – I was just updating my website, checking in on Sunday night baseball and said, “Hmmm, I wonder what Hippo is drinking as he watches the Cards.”
    What flavor is the Cardinal Kool-Aid?

  225. elwood blues says:

    Saunders – a pitch-to-contact pitcher at the Snake Pit, not good.

  226. BigFatHippo says:


    Grape Yadi!

  227. Wilsonian says:

    Can you rank these starts for the coming week:

    1) DLR v. Pit;
    2) Romero v. Bal
    3) Wells @ Hou;
    4) Buerhle v. Sea;
    5) CJ v. Oak?

    Many thanks…

  228. Howie says:

    @Grey: I have Haren…yes, I wondered if one of those guys might be an upgrade since his move to the AL represents an opportunity to (optionally) replace him in my NL-only league. Thanks.

  229. elwood blues says:

    Since I just ruled out Saunders.. do I pick up Gutierrez, Lyon, or Enright.. in nl 4×4, could use wins and saves.

  230. BSA says:

    @BigFatHippo: Be careful you don’t drink too much I don’t think the guys at the office will understand when you show up tomorrow with purple lipstick.

  231. royce! says:

    @Grey: Hmm…perhaps more context will make the decision easier.

    My pitching:
    SP- Lilly (2 starts)
    SP- Beckett (1 start)
    RP- Broxton
    RP- Capps
    RP- Liriano (2 starts)
    RP- Colby Lewis (2 starts)
    P- Nolasco (2 starts)
    P- Hammel (2 starts)
    P- Arroyo (2 starts)

    He has:

    SP- Verlander (2 starts)
    SP- Hanson (2 starts)
    RP- Axford
    RP- Wagner
    RP- Thornton
    RP- Kuo
    P- Dempster (1 start)
    P- Kuroda (1 start)
    P- Buchholz (2 starts)

    So, I could just start as many 2 starters as possible, making the amount of starts 13 to 8.

    Or I could bench Beckett, and have 12 starts, and start 3 closers.

    Or I could bench Arroyo or Hammel, have 11 starts, and 3 closers.

    Or I could bench some combo of two of Beckett, Arroyo, and Hammel, and start Rauch and grab an MR (there are many very good MRs on the wire), dropping one of my bench guys (Tabata, Stanton, or Domonic Brown (who I’m loathe to drop, b/c a few owners have expressed interest in him)).

    OR, I could drop two of the above and grab two MR and actually compete for holds.

    My other OF (4 OF spots and a UTIL) are Abreu, Markakis, Gardner, Quentin, and Bruce. League is 14 team h2h counting 7×7 (OBP, XBH, HLD, K/BB).

    Okay, that didn’t simplify it one bit. I usually make these decisions on my own; however, this team is free falling into 10th. But you’ve read this far…

  232. chisox says:

    Would Jorge Cantu qualify as being too valuable to drop for Alex Gordon in a points league?

  233. big o says:

    shitty day at work ,
    only to come home and find
    that danny haren is now the property of the angels .

    billy beane …. you azzhole !!

  234. steamer says:

    General keeper strategy question. I know the general rule is to keep hitters, but in a league where you keep 12 players, would you keep a top tier closer over a 4th OF/4th SP type?

  235. big o says:

    edit *

    billy beane …. you money-grubbing azzhole !!

  236. Grey

    Grey says:

    @BigFatHippo: Seems a bit high for him.

    @elwood blues: Yup

    @Wilsonian: Wilson, Romero, Wells, dlR…

    @Howie: Gotcha

    @elwood blues: Enright….But it’s risky. Gutierrez, but that’s risky in other ways.

    @royce!: Go with — Or I could bench Arroyo or Hammel, have 11 starts, and 3 closers. And lose Arroyo and grab an MR for Holds.

    @chisox: Nope

    @big o: Hehe

    @steamer: Depends on who the players are.

  237. GopherDay says:

    Grey, in a Util slot, would you rather have Alex Gordon or Snider (Once he gets back, he’s hitting very well in the minors)?

  238. Grey

    Grey says:

    @GopherDay: Depends when he comes back… I have no idea if Gordon will be hitting the cover off the ball (unlikely) when Snider’s back.

  239. steamer says:

    @Grey: Marmol over an OF like Lind, or a SP like J. Sanchez or Marcum.

  240. GopherDay says:

    @Grey: Alright, thanks. It would solve all of my problems if the Phillies would trade Werth (To the Rays for Hellickson plus others) then send those prospects to my Astros for Roy O. All in all, so Dominic Brown could get the call up.

    Different note…Do you think this could be a wake up call for Grandy? This is what we’ve been expecting from him all season. I was thinking about benching him, but decided not to. The 2 homers and a steal was really nice.

  241. mr baseball says:

    Fight! Chone Figgins in dugout fracas at Safeco ( tooks some time but I got around to this one

    I heard Chone Figgins stole the fight Duh-nuh-NUH … duh-nuh-NUH!

  242. mr baseball says:

    Angels acquired RHP Dan Haren from the Diamondbacks for LHP Joe Saunders, LHP Patrick Corbin, RHP Rafael Rodriguez and a player to be named.


  243. big o says:

    meanwhile ,
    this artie moreno “group”
    dumps lackey ….(18.7 mil … to the sawx)
    and picks up ,
    the better haren (8+1/4 mil … and 2 years younger) .
    they’re the DEVILS , i tell ‘ya !

    do the math ….. not the meth !!

  244. NoCalBatteryChucker says:

    Robot Jones or Berkman?

  245. GopherDay says:

    Reported: JA Happ would likely head to Houston in a Roy Oswalt trade to Philly.

    Why do they want Happ?? He doesn’t seem like a very exciting player to deal for.

  246. GopherDay says:

    @Grey: I’m beginning to think so…Maybe the Phillies will consider him “off limits”? Gosh…Football season starts soon and the Texans are looking good! LOL

  247. Wilsonian says:

    Price/Delmon for Lewis/Holliday…what do you think? I have the Holliday side currently and was just offered this deal.

  248. Joe B says:

    Pick 2 of these SP that you prefer to own going forward…

    R Dempster
    M Garza
    W Rodrigez
    C Billingsley
    S Baker

  249. big o says:

    derrick lee …. swinging like a rusty gate .

  250. @Grey: Another team’s entered the “sellers” ranks and I’m currently holding 6th place and last playoff spot by 5 games…

    How much would you give (as far as draft picks) for Carpenter or Dempster plus Zimmerman. This is a keeper…

    I offered a 9th rounder for Carp or Dempster. I’m thinking of offering a 6 and maybe a late rounder for Zim and one of the starters

  251. YESSSSS… make that 6 games up on that FeLo homer! That was huge! Now if Cubs can tie it up and get Albert another swing…

  252. big o says:

    on dallas braden :
    He’s a character, a goofy son of a gun. That’s all I can say. I don’t see anything special,” Chicago manager Ozzie Guillen joked. “He throws strikes and changes speeds and he gives his team a good chance to win, but I don’t see anything special. Congratulations on the perfect game but, if Mark Buehrle can throw a perfect game anybody can.”

  253. Steve says:

    @3FingersBrown: Hehe. Just messaged someone that I hoped the Cubs tie it up.

    So Albert can get another swing…

  254. @big o: Ha! Ozzie speaks the truth!

    @Steve: Ahhh well. I’m getting greedy. Lopez’ HR put me up in R and tied OBP. I was hoping an Albert hit/BB would put me up. Still beat my opponent 7-1 this week. The charge to the playoffs continues.

    Just made an offer of a 6th and a late rounder to be named later for Zimmerman and either Carp or Dempster.

  255. Wilsonian says:

    @Grey: that’s kind of my thought. I don’t really want to do it, but it looks relatively fair…

  256. Wilsonian says:

    I’ve got 5 SPs going on Tuesday (JJ, Verlander, Floyd, Hamels, Romero). If I play them all, I have to bench a closer, or I can only play 4. My closers are K-Rod, Capps, Soria, Feliz. Would you bench one of them or one of the starters?

  257. Steve says:

    His Posey, Alvarez and Pierre for my Napoli and Erv-San.

    Chump dump, right? He also has Rios and Zobrist on the block – how about Napoli + Erv-San for Zo and Posey?

  258. @Grey: You think it’s worth giving an 8 and a 12 for Dempster and Gardner?

    I’m like a crackhead come this time of year… On draft day, I’m always lamenting my lack of picks but if I’m going to go for it, I’m all in.

  259. @Grey: He came to his senses and took Zim off the table

  260. Steve says:

    @Steve: Oh – I’m currently rocking The Insurance Salesman at MI (where I would put Zo’) and the rest of my staff is Lester, Bald Jim, Buchholz, Niese and Arroyo, with Baker, Masterson, LeBlanc, Gorz and Pelf on the wire.

  261. @Steve: I’d rather have Napoli/Erv… the rooks are hot now but could quickly fall off a cliff. Pierre’s junk and speed is plentiful this year. I’d rather have flavor of the week SAGNOF than pay for Pierre.

  262. Steve says:

    @3FingersBrown: What do you think of my possible counter?

  263. @Steve: Eeehh Zo’s not hitting for the same power, although I can see him picking it up and finishing strong. I take it you need speed. Speed’s pletiful this year, aren’t there any decent options available on waivers?

    Your SP’s are good enough for Erv to be expendable? I think he’s a bit much to give up for the guys that you’re asking for.

    My feelings on players are a bit skewed mind you, since I play with OBP (and QS in one league) and it’s so hard to get decent arms. Either way though, I’d want more for a combination of Napoli and Erv

  264. @Grey: I’m asking myself if Gardy is that much of an upgrade over my Pagan/Tabata platoon or flavor of the week SAGNOF to bother paying for right now…

    I suppose his OBP and hitting in the Yankee lineup put him well above Tabata though. Interesting deal. I asked about a 9 for Dempster straight up, but I think he wants to try to move as many parts as possible. Gardner’s interesting though since he’d only cost a 25th rounder next year if I decided to keep him.

    That might be the tipping point for me. Alright. All in!

    FWIW, it’d leave me without a 7,8, 12 or 15 picks next year. I didn’t have a 4, 6, 10 or 15 in this draft and I’ve gotten this far.

  265. DrEasy says:

    Grandy sonavabench!

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