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It feels like just the other day the baseball regular season started.  You wrote “I heart baseball” in permanent marker on your arm, then you met a girl who wrote “I heart guys who heart baseball” on her arm, then, during sex in July, you screamed out, “Give it to me, Giancarlo!” and now you don’t have baseball or a girlfriend.  C’mon, calendar, make like a soldier and turn to March.  The only cure for the post-baseball season blues — recapping the preseason top twenty lists and being hand-fed Doritos.  First up, Cool Ranch and our preseason Top 20 Catchers for 2017.  It’s important to look back before we look ahead to 2018.  To paraphrase the one and only B-Real, “How do you know where you’re at, if you don’t know where you’ve been? Understand where I’m coming from?”  (If you missed it, I interviewed B-Real last year on our podcast, though that might not have been as good as our Jose Canseco interview.)  It wouldn’t be fair for me to preseason rank the players, then rank them again in the postseason based on my opinion, so these postseason top 20 lists are ranked according to our Fantasy Baseball Player Rater.  It’s cold hard math, y’all!  Please, for the love that all is holy, don’t ask me if this is for next year.  Anyway, here’s the top 20 catchers for 2017 fantasy baseball and how they compared to where I originally ranked them:

1. Gary Sanchez – Nailed his preseason ranking and close enough on the projection after you include a 15% increase for Guatemalan baseballs sewn tighter than your Mandex.  Sanchez is also the exception to the rule as to why you Reggie Roby catchers.  He’s the only catcher in the top 59 for all players, and would’ve been only the 5th best 1st baseman.  Preseason Rank #1, 2017 Projections: 71/27/82/.260/3, Final Numbers: 79/33/90/.278/2

2. Yadier Molina – Nailed the preseason ranking for Molina too.  Dot dot dot.  If you stop reading the number 20, after the two.  But, really, zero isn’t a number.  It’s the absence of a number.  Like how white is the absence of rhythm.  On the reals, Molina is getting better with age like an actor from ER.  Well, except Noah Wyle.  Sorry, Noah.  Preseason Rank #20, 2017 Projections: 53/7/57/.288/3, Final Numbers: 60/18/82/.273/9

3. J.T. Realmuto – Just Tomato was so much more of a real Muto.  That’s like fantasy advice from the Sphinx.  Good luck understanding it, non-Pharaohs!  Once again, if you just add 15% increase on power–Actually, it’s more like a 70% increase.  This power increase makes me think Kurt Suzuki could almost hit 20 HRs.  *glances down*  Oh, wow.  Preseason Rank #8, 2017 Projections: 54/10/57/.281/11, Final Numbers: 68/17/65/.278/8

4. Salvador Perez – If you drafted Perez, he cured your catcher scabs because he was an excellent *pinkie to mouth* Salve…Good, right?  No?  Okay.  Perez actually had a legit shot at being the #1 catcher if he didn’t miss about 20 games.  Preseason Rank #6, 2017 Projections: 55/22/73/.256/1, Final Numbers: 57/27/80/.268/1

5. Buster Posey – Catchers are so pathetic… Audience replies in unison, “How pathetic are they?”  Posey hit two homers in the 2nd half of the season.  I wouldn’t let that Bust my Posey.  Preseason Rank #4, 2017 Projections: 78/16/86/.291/4, Final Numbers: 62/12/67/.320/6

6. Willson Contreras – Know how I do tiers in the preseason?  Yeah, I don’t do that in the recaps, but, if I did, the first tier would end here and the rest of the catchers are all punts.  Preseason Rank #5, 2017 Projections: 62/16/74/.267/4, Final Numbers:  50/21/74/.276/5

7. Mike Zunino – I’ve talked a lot about how I completely dominated Tout Wars this year, but I haven’t mentioned that our very own Rudy Gamble destroyed his Tout Wars league too, winning by twenty points.  (I won by 27 points, natch!).  Any hoo!  I bring this up now because Rudy was all about Zunino this past preseason, drafting him in a bunch leagues.  25 HRs from a last round catcher in a 2-catcher league goes prettttttttttay, prettttttttttay far.  Preseason Rank #26, 2017 Projections: 37/17/49/.204/1, Final Numbers: 52/25/64/.251/1

8. Welington Castillo – Where’s the boeuf?!  Hitting homers and not much else.  44 runs is hilarious.  He was tied for the lowest runs total for any hitter who qualified for the batting title (even though Castillo didn’t qualify).  Guess who he tied with?  Hint:  Arnold played him in Batman.  Uh, no, Mr. Freese!  Preseason Rank #18, 2017 Projections: 38/16/59/.239/1, Final Numbers:  44/20/53/.282

9. Yasmani Grandal – Went a different way this year in my RCL.  I picked up OBPWulf around May 1st, and I didn’t drop him again until mid-September, not picking my catcher scab for about five months.  I know, that’s easy with a top ten catcher, but when he went barren like Michelle Pfeiffer in Scarface in August it wasn’t that easy.  Preseason Rank #9, 2017 Projections: 57/20/69/.240/2, Final Numbers: 50/27/58/.247

10. Robinson Chirinos – If Welington’s runs are hilarious, Uh-oh Chirinos’ everything except homers is a laugh riot.  He’s the tenth ranked catcher and he has 38 RBIs!  And you wonder why I tell you not to draft a catcher.  By the by, he wasn’t ranked by me, but I doubt anyone ranked him since he squatted (for the anthem?!) behind Lucroy on the depth charts.  Preseason Unranked, Final Numbers: 46/17/38/.255/1

11. Brian McCann – Basically, this list is telling you, if a guy hits 18+ HRs and does nothing else, he’s worth owning in a 12-team mixed league.  Preseason Rank #10, 2017 Projections: 66/19/75/.237/1, Final Numbers: 47/18/62/.241/1

12. Kurt Suzuki – 19 homers from Suzuki is exclamation worthy, but it gets better.  He did it in only 276 ABs!  Who are you, Kurt Bonds?  You Barry Suzuki?  I demand you tell me your name, because you are not Kurt Suzuki!  Preseason Unranked, Final Numbers: 38/19/50/.283

13. Alex Avila – I’d contend (for the pre-teen, featherweight belt in women’s boxing) that Avila wasn’t even ownable after June and he’s ranked this high.  Zoinks!  Preseason Unranked, Final Numbers:  41/14/49/.264

14. Manny Pina – In 85% of leagues, you could’ve picked up Manny Pina easier than picking up a girl dressed like a Pina Colada at a Jimmy Buffett concert.  Preseason Unranked, Final Numbers: 45/9/43/.279/2

15. Tyler Flowers – What’s super sad (to me) is I owned Austin Hedges all year in one 15-team league, and I could’ve picked up Flowers.  I wonder if it’s a subconscious thing because no one has ever given me flowers.  I hate everyone! Preseason Rank #30, 2017 Projections: 31/15/47/.227, Final Numbers: 41/12/49/.281

16. Travis d’Arnaud – He made the top 20?!  Was he owned in more than 5% of leagues at any point this year?  I may rank five catchers next year, and then call the sixth ranked catcher, “Grab bag.”  Preseason Rank #15, 2017 Projections: 41/14/48/.259/1, Final Numbers: 39/16/57/.244

17. James McCann – Here’s something that is depressing, I nearly nailed McCann’s preseason projections, but I thought those numbers would only be good for the 24th best catcher.  These are not the days of Piazza’s bacne and Pudge getting Canseco to eject his butt.  Preseason Rank #24, 2017 Projections: 42/14/56/.251, Final Numbers: 39/13/49/.253/1

18. Chris Iannetta – Besides the obvious takeaway from this post that every catcher does better when they leave the tutelage of The Sciosciapath, there were a lot of part-time catchers who played three to four times a week that hit a bunch of homers and not much else.  Preseason Rank #27, 2017 Projections: 41/10/44/.217/1, Final Numbers: 38/17/43/.254

19. Christian Vazquez – I legit laughed when I saw this schmohawk listed.  He had one good week all year!  His end-of-the-season stats look similar to Scooter Gennett after one good week.  Preseason Unranked, Final Numbers: 43/5/32/.290/7

20. Evan Gattis – This was shocking to me, Austin Hedges didn’t even make the top 20?  That kinda bums me out, like a young Gattis.  C’est la vie–*smacks self*  Don’t you try to French me!  Preseason Rank #11, 2017 Projections: 39/20/56/.255/2, Final Numbers: 41/12/40/.263

   
  1. LenFuego says:
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    Would be good to see where your preseason top 20 ended up. I do not see your preseason ranked numbers 2, 3, 7, 12, 13, 14, 17 or 19! It would be fun to see who they are (at least the top 10) and why they slipped.

    • Packers says:
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      @LenFuego: Here it is.
      2. was Lucroy
      3. was Posey at 5
      7. was Realmuto at 3
      12 was Wiieters
      13. was Rupp
      14. was d’Arnaud at16
      17. was Castillo at8
      18. was Ramos

      • Grey

        Grey says:
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        @Packers: Did I goof on Realmuto and Posey?

        • Packers says:
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          @Grey: No, I should have said finished at.

          • Grey

            Grey says:
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            Ah, gotcha

    • Grey

      Grey says:
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      @LenFuego: Lucroy was the big miss, but I’m not considering it a miss bc I couldn’t have been any more clear to avoid him — I’ve been saying to avoid him even when you shouldn’t have avoided him!

  2. TheTheory says:
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    Ugh. And I wondered why it seemed like all my catchers were awful. And why, when I went to waivers, all the options seemed worse.

    Although for the draft price Sanchez was going for (based on a sample size of 3 RCLs), he ended up being a damn fine value.

    • Grey

      Grey says:
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      @TheTheory: Yeah, if you were in a league deeper than 8 teams, waivers weren’t pretty for catchers — Sanchez had value to him if you got him after the 5th round, for sure

      • James Bishop says:
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        @Grey: As an experiment, I didn’t draft a catcher in my 20-team league and just streamed using Hittertron. My catchers wound up hitting .254 with 18 home runs.

        • Grey

          Grey says:
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          Damn! That’s better than I did with Yasmani — Did you have anyone for longer than a week?

          • James Bishop says:
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            @Grey: Yeah, I used Wieters for a while and Wilson Ramos for a while. Both performed worse in my lineup than the randos I streamed for the rest of the season.

            • James Bishop says:
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              @James Bishop: Chirinos gave me some awesome value for the 8 games he was in my lineup, but there were also some ugly days involving the likes of Josh Phegley and James McCann.

              • Grey

                Grey says:
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                Wow, impressive that you did that well… You should do a testimonial for HitterTron

                • James Bishop says:
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                  @Grey: Ha! Tell Rudy I work for super cheap.

                  • Grey

                    Grey says:
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                    Haha

                • James Bishop says:
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                  @Grey: Truly, though this experience taught me two important things: (1) Hittertron is awesome; and (2) it’s completely unnecessary to draft a catcher even in the deepest of leagues because there are always backups starting on any given day.

                  • Grey

                    Grey says:
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                    I will say it’s only possible if it’s a daily deep league, key is daily

  3. GFY250 says:
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    Sanchez earned $27 based on the player rater and had a $9 lead over #2! All that and he missed 4 weeks early in the season. Is a Mike Piazza like 35-100 projection in order for him next year?

    • Grey

      Grey says:
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      @GFY250: If he stays healthy, I can’t imagine a season under 32 HRs — plus or minus five HRs seems fair on that, so well within possibility…

  4. Raider says:
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    In unrelated news, the Mets fired their pitching coach and head trainer, could be the end of an era

    • Grey

      Grey says:
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      @Raider: Surprising news, I didn’t think they had a pitching coach and head trainer

      • J-FOH says:
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        @Grey: that’s because his job title was janitor

        • Grey

          Grey says:
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          So, I watched A Good American last night after I got home from dinner… I’m impressed, man, that shizz was dry…

          • J-FOH says:
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            @Grey: it was dry but it’s not a sexy topic. The man is a meta data analyst. He analyzes the analysis. How could that not be dry. But I was fascinated by it

            • Grey

              Grey says:
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              Yeah, I was surprised you liked it, it was a little too dry for me… I did like the recent day stuff, but was bored by the 1970s/80s stuff… Also, I wonder what Hayden would say in defense to this because I kept feeling like, “After the fact, they say they would’ve caught it, but hindsight’s 20/20…” They might’ve caught it like he caught the Tet Offensive and no one would’ve done anything…

              • J-FOH says:
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                @Grey: I like the 70’s and 80’s stuff. One of the big takeaways was how they started putting people in roles they were unqualified to do, and is also a reflection of the hyper politicized nature of our modern government. Instead of getting the best person for the job lets hook up the cronies. . When your boss is excited after 9/11 because of all the funding they get because of that event is pretty sick.

                • Grey

                  Grey says:
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                  Yeah, all that for sure… You (not you, but people in general) think that the government is about petty bullcrap and back-office politics, but it’s not at all… They wanted Thinthread out because the new guy in office didn’t come up with it…

                  • J-FOH says:
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                    @Grey: Thats like a fantasy pert who wont acknowledge a good season by a player because he picked him to do poorly.

                    • Grey

                      Grey says:
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                      Or how barely a third of the Tout league congratulated me…

                    • J-FOH says:
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                      Those bastards.

                    • Grey

                      Grey says:
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                      I bitched about it on the podcast this week… Who doesn’t congratulate the winner?

                    • J-FOH says:
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                      I don’t, but that’s because I’m an asshole

                    • Grey

                      Grey says:
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                      I do, but it’s through gritted teeth

                    • J-FOH says:
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                      Id prefer to say it to someones face than type it. I want them to see I have no respect for them and that I hate them for winning…like you with Cockcroft

                    • Grey

                      Grey says:
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                      I’m surprised he didn’t congratulate me, tbh…He seemed to take the hate with a grain of salt… Plus, he loved you!

                    • J-FOH says:
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                      Im the most loveable prick ever

                    • Grey

                      Grey says:
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                      I’m just a prick, huh? Sigh.

  5. Tweak says:
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    Why’s Yadi gotta go have a year like this? Ride off into the sunset, Shane. SHANE! I want me some sweet Carson Kelly action. At least next year I should be able to get some shares of Francisco Mejia.

    I may be overthinking my catcher options…

    Completely unrelated to catching, the only ones worth keeping are the ones who shout, “Give it to me, Giancarlo” louder than us.

    • Grey

      Grey says:
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      @Tweak: Haha… Yeah, I owned Kelly in one keeper league and then around two days after he was called up I realized he’s never playing

  6. SDub88 says:
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    Where would Schwarber have ranked? He was eligible as catcher on Yahoo and that’s where I used him all second half this year, he really helped.

  7. Randy BoBandy says:
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    Funny how Berrios was tuned last night…imagine that!

  8. knucks says:
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    CAGNOF!

    • Grey

      Grey says:
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      @knucks: Ha, yes, always!

  9. Bryce and Nice says:
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    Great article. Not sure of strategy…..

    Our keeper league is dropping one of the catcher spots in favor of a bench spot. We were 2 catchers, and are in a points league. I have Sanchez for one more year, and J. McCann for 2 years, both for $1. Should I keep both and slot in McCann whenever Sanchez sits or just roster one catcher, and then worry about it at or after the draft ? I hate leaving points off the board when possible. What’s the strategy here?

  10. MattTruss

    MattTruss says:
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    Rode Vazquez and Martin Maldonado to my AL-Only Championship. Not spectacular, but for $2 for the pair, they get the job done. Even better, they never hit the DL. That’s pretty amazing. I never had to go to the waiver wire, which in a 12-team AL-Only, 2 catcher league is a blessing. Otherwise, you’re playing Luke Maile for a few weeks.

    Annnnnd, that’s enough catcher talk until March!

    • Grey

      Grey says:
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      I’m convinced in 2-catcher leagues the best you can do at the cheapest price ($2 for both) is having two starters for the whole year… Who was your catcher in the perts RCL?

      • MattTruss

        MattTruss says:
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        Sal Perez (Drafted at 251), Welington Castillo, whoever was on waivers

        • Grey

          Grey says:
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          Damn, Perez ain’t bad at 251

          • MattTruss

            MattTruss says:
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            No, unfortunately Miggy at 11 undid any value I got late…

            • Grey

              Grey says:
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              Yeah, he was the ultimate killer b/c you couldn’t drop him

  11. Hawk says:
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    I’ll summarize catchers:

    Draft Sanchez or punt, finding any catcher with an average north of .26p

    • Hawk says:
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      @Hawk:

      .260*

    • Grey

      Grey says:
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      Exactly

  12. dhouse42 says:
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    Wow. Juiced-baseball-power-surge aside, your projections are really good! Do you have a specific methodology, or do you just use your knowledge to make an educated guess?

    • Grey

      Grey says:
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      The latter mostly

      • dhouse42 says:
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        I drafted wieters with my @Grey: Nice. I love that you compare the projections with the results, a lot of places just do projections and then conveniently don’t talk about it when they were wrong :-D

        I drafted wieters as my C with my last pick in my $ roto league, then streamed. It was a disaster but I still won the league. Overall stats from the C spot:

        in 118 GP:

        40/13/53/.220/1

        14 different catchers. lol i hate catcher

        • Grey

          Grey says:
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          That shows how easily you can punt catcher, because you got next to nothing from your catcher, and still won

  13. ThanatosK says:
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    Yeah, I took your advice even further this year. I’m my head to head leagues (points and categories) I drafted zero catchers….and then left the spot empty. Once or twice I picked up a guy but kept him for a week and realized yet again that an extra closer or an extra SP or…anything really, is more valuable.

    Finished 1st, 1st, and 3rd in those league with no catcher at all. Obviously, that’s not nearly as good of an idea for roto but head to head next year I’m likely doing the same thing.

    Thanks for all the awesome advice all year Grey!

    • Grey

      Grey says:
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      Nice, exactly! Glad it worked for you!

  14. Long Bawls says:
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    Another season in the books! Books, nerd!? (Gets flustered, remembers that post-‘roid baseball bullying isn’t something to be scared of, looks smug, gets sucker-punched by Gary Sanchez. A month later, karma–everyone’s 2nd-favorite stripper–hits Sanchez in the balls. Who knew the K in K-Rob stood for Krotch?).

    Now, where was I? Oh, right, in the basement, under a stack of Cheetos bags. Apropos of that (what? Cheetos?), and now that you have time, I recommend Dirk Gently’s Holistic Detective Agency on Hulu. Takes a little getting used to, but really excellent TV and far less annoying than you’d guess from the name.

    • Grey

      Grey says:
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      HA! Nice parenthetical… Awesome, thanks for the recommendation… Please watch Line of Duty on Hulu, your homework, nerd!

      • Long Bawls says:
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        @Grey: Sir, yes sir (salutes, gets thumb caught in glasses)!

        • Grey

          Grey says:
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          And watch your thumbs!

  15. Me says:
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    Two catcher leagues must’ve been fun

    • Grey

      Grey says:
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      It’s freakin’ miserable

    • Stumanji! says:
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      @Me: I’ve never understood why 2-Catcher leagues are even a thing. WHY?

      • TheTheory says:
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        @Stumanji!: Because fantasy isn’t fun unless you can torture league owners.

        • Grey

          Grey says:
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          Haha

      • Grey

        Grey says:
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        There’s some strategy involved with 2 catchers, but I agree it’s a bit painful

  16. Joshua says:
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    Hey, Grey! I’m in a 10 team h2h league that counts H, HR, RBI, BB, SB, and AVG. I need to pick 2 keepers out of Judge, Machado, Votto, and Trea Turner. Which 2 would you pick?

    • Grey

      Grey says:
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      Machado, Turner

    • Grey

      Grey says:
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      Can’t go wrong with any of them tho

      • Joshua says:
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        @Grey: Thanks, Grey! You’re the schman!

        • Grey

          Grey says:
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          Schanks!

  17. Scott Kimmel says:
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    Grey,

    WOuld you trade McCutchen for Blackmon

    • Grey

      Grey says:
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      I would

  18. Stumanji! says:
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    OH MY GOD, catchers are so fucking boring. I love me some Grey columns but I couldn’t even finish reading about these schmohawks past the top 10. More like Zzzzzzzzzunino.

    I normally don’t buy into positional scarcity, but is the Sanchize so far ahead of everybody else he should be bumped up in the overall rankings?

    Hoskins or Sanchez in a OPS keeper league?

    • Grey

      Grey says:
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      Haha, nah, I wouldn’t bump up Sanchez — but I would go Sanchez over Hoskins

  19. Duda Want to Build a Snowman? says:
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    Hey Grey! Already getting some interesting keeper trade offers.

    In a keep 5 only, 12 team OPS QS h2h categories league, I was offered Trea Turner ($40 in 2018) + one of $19 Springer or $7 Keutchel for either my $4 Severino or $13 Justin Upton.

    Seems like a must do regardless, but what do you think? Try to trade my Severino first (over my Upton) if I had the choice?

    If I did the trade, my other 3 keepers would be $48 Goldy, $5 Hoskins, plus one of Severino/Upton (whoever didn’t get shipped). The keeper I’d have to let go to FA to make room for Springer/Keuthel would be a $5 Domingo…though I could see keeping Domingo over keutchel

    • Grey

      Grey says:
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      I’d take Trea and Keuchel for Severino (or Upton)

      • Duda Want to Build a Snowman? says:
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        @Grey: Thanks!

        • Grey

          Grey says:
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          No problem

  20. swaggerjackers says:
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    With Austin Hedges doing so bad this season, he has nowhere to go but up.

    …unless he loses his job.

    Without digging into the numbers, I won’t mind taking a flyer on him at the end of drafts again.

    During my 12 team draft, I had Sanchez ready to select then lost my internet connect and autodrafted the closer for the Blue Jays. So glad we were able to revert those picks through ESPN. That could have single handedly cost me my lone championship this season.

    • Grey

      Grey says:
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      Yeah, I don’t mind him… He’ll hit 17+ HRs and maybe back into a lucky .240 average — Whew on Sanchez…

  21. Packers says:
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    Grey,

    I’m working the trade market in a 12 team weekly, roto, dynasty league. Two players at each position and 5 outfelders. I have a chance to get Alfaro and he wants a young SP, I have the following SP’s. we start 10 pitchers so 7SP and 3 closers. At catcher I have JT and Pina now.
    Woodruff
    Bridwell
    Faria
    Castillo
    Gausman
    McCullers
    My staff also has Kluber, Nola and K. Hendricks.
    1. who do you think is fair for Alfaro?
    2. He wants to trade Odor also, asked for Taylor, turned down KK, should I offer ODB or Cespedes?
    3. Should I risk anothe SP for Odor?
    Thanks in advance.

    • Grey

      Grey says:
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      1. Woodruff, Bridwell or Faria 2. I’d send ODB or Taylor 3. Same 3 as 1

  22. TheeHen4 says:
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    How would you rank E-Rod, Godley, and Taijuan Walker going forward in dynasty?

    • Grey

      Grey says:
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      Godley, Walker

    • Grey

      Grey says:
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      Maybe Godley, E-Rod… they’re all close

  23. Corey says:
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    I’m in this Champion of Champions thing on Yahoo. Any chance the Hittertron will be working for the playoffs?

    • Grey

      Grey says:
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      It’s not, sorry

  24. J-FOH says:
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    Did you watch/like snowfall? I started the first episode last night and I’m not sure if it’s worth my time. Maybe I’m being petty but it felt overly stylized and too clean. Couldn’t they do some post production on the hood?

    • Grey

      Grey says:
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      I watched it, it’s garbage… Your instinct is right on… It wants to be something it’s not…

      • J-FOH says:
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        @Grey: then I won’t waste my time. I saw the shot when they scroll back of the street with all the palm trees and everyone has a new roof? And a nice lawn… yeah that’s not south central. I used to go there for work with my dad and that ain’t the hood. Maybe I’m too picky. It feels like everything has to look nice to be in 4K but it takes away for me. Show me the grit in high def not everything looking bright and brand new

        • Grey

          Grey says:
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          Was one of the more disappointing shows I’ve seen in a while, and it actually gets worse as it goes on… It’s so disappointing b/c I had such high hopes for it… There’s no grit! You should watch Narcos if you haven’t

          • J-FOH says:
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            @Grey:
            I watched season 1 and some of 2. Its great. I just have to pay attention to the screen at all times because my Spanish is no bueno

            • Grey

              Grey says:
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              You should continue watching, it gets better

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