I’m not a total ass.  Partial?  Sure!  I have no problem with that.  With that said (here comes the ass part!), I have no sympathy for Josh Hamilton.  Everywhere you look you hear about how heartbreaking, sad, *searches Thesaurus.com for sympathetic word* it is that happened to Hamilton.  Light a candle for the literal manifestation of the prayers that you send out to him.  Put on If You’re Gone by Matchbox Twenty and picture Rob Thomas singing directly to Josh.  Go to your local package store and protest until they close on Sundays.  Do what you want, but you know what’s heartbreaking to me?  The fact that spring training starts and the baseball news that people are discussing is Hamilton running down the wrong foul lines.  Also, I feel like most of the sad emoticons that go out for him are generated because he believes in God, family and is white, especially the last one.  If he were non-white, there would be no sympathy from anyone.  A Josh Hamiltonguez would be released by his club and the public’s silence would be deafening.  Arizona would even consider building a fence to keep him out.  A Josh Hamiltonjackson would be vilified and there would be a criminal case opened with only the Reverend Al Sharpton standing by his side.  Torii Hunter would need to say something, because no one else is.  My advice for Hamilton is get some help, but stay away from Dr. Drew, because one out of three celebrities never make it out of Celeb Rehab.  Maybe at some point Hamilton can get past the crack and back to the crack of the bat, but I don’t have much hope for him this year and have adjusted my top 100 outfielders.  Anyway, here’s what else is going in spring training for fantasy baseball:

Michael Saunders – Nooooooooooooooo *puts oxygen mask on, takes a few deep breaths*  oooooooooooooooooooo *slams head into desk*  oooooooooooooo *opens window, jumps out, lands in giant Venus fly trap* oooooooooooooooo *dog pees on giant Venus fly trap that is digesting me*  ooooooooooooo!  But we had such high hopes!  Ugh, Saunders ran over a sprinkler and is now out until the All-Star break.  This is the worst sprinkler injury since a Sprinkles Cupcake employee informed a menopausal Roseanne Barr that they were out of chocolate.  I’ve removed Saunders from my top 40 outfielders and moved him in my top 400.  I would stash him on my DL, but he’d likely be the first drop once someone on my team was injured.

Johan Santana – Signed a minor league deal with the Blue Jays.  To play left field?  Oh, to be their fifth starter.  The last year he pitched, he had a 4.85 ERA, then he had his 2nd major shoulder surgery that was supposed to end his career.  That was three years ago.  Yeah, that sounds awesome.  Ow, I just rolled my eyes while having brain freeze.  My eyes are now freezing!  Send for help!  Kidding.  I’m fine.

Adam Wainwright – Diagnosed with an abdominal strain.  The Cards said this is best case scenario.  I agree with them; I want people to draft Wainwright.  C’mon, let’s hear some more good news.  Adam, you have to have in you at least one, “I’ve never felt better,” or one, “I feel like I could win the Cy Young.”  Make people delusional to own you, please!

Lucas Duda – Strained oblique and won’t swing a bat for a week.  Not quite a dud, my dyslexic friends, and I haven’t yet moved him down my rankings, but if he’s not right by mid-March, he will be dropped.  If you’re drafting before mid-March, then he has some obvious risk.  Speaking of which (terrible segue alert!), there’s a Razzball Commenter draft this Saturday.  Go fill it up!

Francisco Rodriguez – Re-signed by the BrewersRyan Braun really petitioned hard for the Brewers to re-sign K-Rod because Braun has been having some problems with his father-in-law.  “I’m sick of doing the four questions at my in-laws’.  I’m not even the youngest!”  That’s Braun discussing his predicament with K-Rod.  Broxton loses the closer job, but he’ll continue being the envy of every white girl that wishes she had a bigger booty.   It’s not fair he gets all the trunk junk!  I’ve made adjustments for K-Rod and Broxton in the top 400.

Andrelton Simmons – Strained oblique.  Or as they say on Andrelton’s home planet, “Scursbeep mersboop.”  His scursbeep mersboop will likely be fine by the start of the season, but, if it’s not, the Braves can always turn to their third best hitter, Placeholder #3.

Everth Cabrera – Old news by now, but I didn’t want to stop offseason posts to just talk about EverCab.  He signed with the O’s the other day, which is whatever, meh, burp, but how it affects Schoop is my bigger concern.  I think EverCab will work all around the infield and live beside the ocean and leave the fire behind and swim out past the breakers and watch the world die.  But the O’s could do something stoopid and platoon EverCab with Schoop, so I lowered Schoop in the top 20 2nd basemen and added EverCab to the top 20 shortstops.

Yasmany Tomas – Bobbling balls left and right at 3rd base.  That sounds like a girl I dated in high school.  She used to wear this white-gold dress.  Or was it blue and black?

 
  1. piranhaman says:
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    The dress is white-gold!! Am i really wrong?

    • Lville Jim says:
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      @piranhaman: Monica Lewinsky says it’s blue with white highlights.

      • Stick Ball Al says:
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        @Lville Jim: Your comment made my morning. Thanks !!!

    • PK says:
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      @piranhaman: White and gold!

    • Back In Black says:
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      @piranhaman: You are right.

    • Grey

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      @piranhaman: I don’t see blue in it at all

      • McNulty says:
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        @Grey:

        I saw blue and black (dark brown).

        Then at night, it was dark and I was tired, it was white (light blue) and gold

        • Grey

          Grey says:
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          I wish I could see it blue

          • Prezii says:
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            @Grey: i see blue n black!!

            • Grey

              Grey says:
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              Cause you are a totes gangsta doing totes gangsta shizz!

    • Swfcdan says:
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      @piranhaman:Blue and black for me.

  2. SteveNZ says:
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    Word.

    (But people crapping on about ‘how lucky he is to have the opportunity to play baseball for a living’ and that he should basically rub some dirt on it can go get fucked. Dude is sick. he needs to go away and sort himself out. And people should let him.)

    • Rufus T. Firefly says:
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      @SteveNZ: Yup. That’s how powerful addiction is. I mean who the hell would mess up his baseball playing career unless he couldn’t help it? Totally true he’d be treated differently if he wasn’t a god-fearing white boy, but that’s racism. Not Hamilton’s fault. They’re separate issues. I have no doubt the poor bastard would give up all his houses and cars and golden bibles and play ball for $50K a year if you could “cure” him.

      • Justin says:
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        @Grey: Im on board with grey on this one. Once you become an adult and develop thoughts and know what is right from wrong, you have got to be held accountable for your own actions.

        Josh Hamilton is a grown ass man who can decide right from wrong, The coke did not hold his head down and move it to get the line up his nose, all the other beers from the 12 pack didn’t make his arm do a curl and put the can or bottle to his lips and make him drink it. HE DECIDED TO.

        Saying that addiction is to tough to beat is an addicts way for them to make being weak sound better. HE has gone to rehab and learned how to curb his cravings.HE can say no. He has said no a shit ton before ( all the years of sobriety) he decide to relapse

        I would bet you all the money in the world that if this were the winter before the final year of his contract and he were going to be playing to get paid he would have been like “NAh man I need to make that money” He wanted to do those things plain and simple. End of story, its his fault ,it always will be his fault, until he proves he can say no.

        • Happy Vegans says:
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          @Justin: Drug addiction is not about the lack of will power. Unless you’ve lived with it or seen it first-had, you have no idea what it’s like.

  3. Miles says:
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    At least Wainwright’s injury is an ab strain and not something with his elbow. Oh wait, he has something wrong with his elbow too?

    • Grey

      Grey says:
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      @Miles: Shh, don’t scare away his drafters…. He’s fine!

      • Miles says:
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        @Grey: haha truth

  4. Mike says:
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    Hi Gray and Gang,

    Love the website. Hilarious! I play in a 12 team, head-to-head, 5X 5 standard categories. 5 keepers. Each keeper you can keep 4 years at original draft value, from the 5th year on the keeper costs you a pick based on Yahoo! ADP. I’ve got at least 3 more years on the following guys at original draft value (17th round or later). Must keep at least one hitter, one pitcher.
    Which 5 would you keep and if you have an extra second, why?

    Mookie Betts
    Rusney Castillo
    Gerrit Cole
    Tyson Ross
    Devon Mesoraco
    Starling Marte
    Byron Buxton
    Gregory Polanco
    Wil Myers
    Mike Fiers

    • JeF With 1 F says:
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      @Mike: Castillo, Marte, Polanco, Myers, Cole

    • Grey

      Grey says:
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      @Mike: Thanks! What F said

  5. Bugs Hoobs says:
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    I think the main reason for the sympathy is that he turned himself in to MLB as opposed to trying to conceal his relapse and then getting caught with failed tests.

    Dude’s got some tremendous demons to deal with.

    • JeF With 1 F says:
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      @Bugs Hoobs: Most likely he turned himself in because he was about to get caught

    • Grey

      Grey says:
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      @Bugs Hoobs: Bleh, I guess… But A-Rod wrote a handwritten note!

      • Buge Hoobs says:
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        @Grey: McGwire left saying nothing, Canseco left saying EVERYTHING, with embellishment, and Giambi just said, “I’m sorry” for nothing? anything?? everything???

        At least Hamilton appears to be taking the skeletons in his closet head on, with any of the dignity that he still has. He’s got a sickness, acknowledges it, and is trying to do something about it. Hard for MLB to make a scapegoat out of that!

        • Grey

          Grey says:
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          McGwire said nothing and has had a job in baseball ever since as a batting coach… Canseco is a douche, so hard to quantify what his saying everything meant…

          • Buge Hoobs says:
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            @Grey@Grey: McGwire just pretends that he didn’t do anything, refusing to acknowledge. Giambi was a coward, apologizing and denying at the same time. Canseco said whatever he could to make a buck … Point being that all three are douche bags.

            Hamilton however is not. It’s hard NOT to sympathize when someone fully admits to their mistakes and moment of weakness rather than try and make up an excuse or blame others for when they get caught. Color has nothing to do with it. Similarly, Ron Washington reached out for help and to admit his mistakes. His apology was from the heart, brought his team closer together, and he kept his job. No scapegoat, just sympathy.

            A-Rod is a douche bag trying to be politically correct, but only to protect his legacy. He’ll never receive sympathy from the public or his teammates.

            • Grey

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              I hear ya, but don’t think McGwire hasn’t received at least as much leniency as Washington, he did get a job as a batting coach…

  6. Vacation says:
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    Grey,

    IN my keeper league I have AuSchizz, Rendon (will be used at 2B b/c of next guy), Longoria (yawn), Stanton and Marte. Suggestions for players to buy at auction for SS and OF to complement this squad and make it more well rounded? I need more steals, right? Maybe D. Santana or Segura at SS? ALso, for reasons passing understandnig neither Arenda or Dickerson were kept and can be bought. I can plug Arenda into my UTIL. Do I buy him even though I have Longo (and Rendon)? Does Dickerson offer even speed to complment this squad? Gracias.

    • Vacation says:
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      @Vacation: Sorry, Arenda = Nolan Arenado

      • CMUTIMMAH says:
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        @Vacation: Marte is a speed guy… Dickerson isn’t going to offer a ton of steals, but his value in other categories is straight cash homie. For a keeper league, I’m targeting him. Hoping he lasts to the second round (12 teams, we keep 6), but if all my other targets are nabbed up in the first, I’m probably going to take him.

        Santana isn’t going to steal a ton. Segura is higher upside for steals, IMO. I would focus on getting more power and snag steals late/cheap with a guy like Revere. I wouldn’t reach for steals at all, besides there is always some guy that comes in mid season and steals 20.

    • Grey

      Grey says:
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      @Vacation: I’d go Dickerson… I’d just go by my rankings for SS, you don’t need that much speed from what you’re showing me

  7. Ante GALIC says:
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    Grey!!!

    Are these ST daily reports back???!!! I was loving Mike’s AFL daily news…then nothing…and NOW this!!! Really gr8!

    A. On J-Ham, totally right. He’ll get a slap on the wrist 25-game suspension, no one really cares.

    B. Strained oblique
    and won’t swing a bat
    for a week

    That’s me quoting you! That’s an ABA rhyming scheme! Poetry in motion…WET TAIL!

    Cheers,
    Ante

    • Grey

      Grey says:
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      @Ante GALIC: I’ll do reports when there’s big news, it won’t be every day until the beginning of the season… Ha, nice!

      • Ante GALIC says:
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        @Grey: Cool! I’ll curb my enthusiasm to avoid making you feel worse by not reporting daily.

        Cheers,
        Ante

        • Grey

          Grey says:
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          Ha

  8. YoMamaSoUggla says:
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    Sick dress reference, bro. Everyone knows your references are out of control.

    Hamilton drives me nuts with all his religious-speak, but I feel bad for anyone struggling with addiction. Doesn’t matter how much, or how little, melanin they’re packin’.

  9. Cram It says:
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    I still listen to Everclear. Only their ’90’s stuff though. Because listening to any other decade would be so not cool, amirite?

    • Justin says:
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      I still drink Everclear. Only the stuff I bought in the 90s. Because drinking anything else wouldn’t remind me of asking girls to the prom and getting rejected, am irate?

    • de nachos says:
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      @Cram It: Feeling you. When that song about swimming comes on the “Gen X Classic Rock” station, I turn the volume way up.

      • Cram It says:
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        @de nachos: Since Pearl Jam is categorized as Classic Rock on certain radio stations, I wonder if I had a kid, if they’d be like “Dad, what’s this old fogey music?”

        • de nachos says:
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          @Cram It: hearts and farts they fade, fade…away…

        • J-FOH says:
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          @Cram It: I thought that said old fogerty music. I was gonna say That’s not cool

          • Cram It says:
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            @J-FOH: I get down with Fogerty. Down on the corner.

            • J-FOH says:
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              @Cram It: love me some ccr. Road music!

              • Cram It says:
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                @J-FOH: Classic in every sense of the word.

                • J-FOH says:
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                  @Cram It: and don’t get me started on homogenized radio stations

                • mauledbypandas says:
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                  @Cram It: totally classic bayou music made by some californian dudes!

                  I love CCR, but it’s crazy to think that they sort of just adopted that whole lifestyle. Then again see blues music re: effect on rock in the 60’s and on.

                  • J-FOH says:
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                    @mauledbypandas: oh short sided pandas you need to remember a few things about California

                    1) its the most diverse state geographically and socially. Farming is like half the state as is forest.

                    2) there is this town called bakersfield, that is referred to as Nashville West

                    3) Yes we have rednecks and a lot of them. Country music dominated the airwaves here going very far back .

                    4) Guys from that era came up listening to Hank Williams and Woody Guthrie, not a real stretch when you think about it.

                    I could go on, but you get the point.

    • JeF With 1 F says:
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      @Cram It: Word

    • Grey

      Grey says:
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      @Cram It: Father of Mine makes me cry a little

      • Cram It says:
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        @Grey: I hope you’re not kidding. Because it’s about to get real sentimental up in this piece.

  10. Dolemite says:
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    Wow! Did you really just use the race card in a baseball blog? I come here to get away from this kind of extreme liberal nonsense…and here it is. What’s next? Michael Brown references?!

    • JeF With 1 F says:
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      @Dolemite: Really??….you realize Grey is white right?? and defending other races..nice knowing you

    • Jay

      Jay says:
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      @Dolemite: Racial stereotypes, racism, etc., are present in baseball, and this isn’t a conservative/liberal issue. The only way this changes is if it’s talked about and I’m a believer that hyperbole is the best vehicle to do so…

    • Job3rd says:
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      @Dolemite: Relax O’Reilly

    • Lincecuminmypants says:
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      @Dolemite: I totally agree, guy with a blacksploitation reference complaining about someone else’s blog about race. Why can’t we just talk about baseball? Preferably baseball before April 15th, 1947, amirite?

      • JeF With 1 F says:
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        @Lincecuminmypants: So is anybody else feeling horny right now?

      • Dolemite says:
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        @Principal Blackman: the first time I’ve posted in some time…but the site never changes. Grey says jump and you guys say “how high?” You basically can’t disagree with grey without getting slaughtered on here. I realize grey is white. I realize that racial Steriotypes are present in baseball. I also play fantasy sports/watch sports/talk sports to get away from this nonsense that I hear ALL DAY EVERYDAY. I get that many of you guys pride yourselves on being long time followers of “razzball”, and therefore run to defend any and everything razzball, but come on. I bet if grey had the exact opposite opinion you guys would defend that too. What’s it like to be mindless sheep?

        • Lincecuminmypants says:
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          @Dolemite: I’d rather be a sheep than an ass.

          • Cheese Eating Surrender Monkey says:
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            @Lincecuminmypants: i’d much rather be an ass than a sheep. seriously on that one.

        • Principal Blackman says:
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          @Dolemite: Not everybody feels the need to compartmentalize aspects of their life in order to shield themselves from reality.

          • Cheese Eating Surrender Monkey says:
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            @Principal Blackman: there’s a very good argument that everybody all the time has to compartmentalize themselves from large chunks of the things that go on around them every day just to stay “sane”, and not kill themselves. One could easily say religion/philosophy/art is only around to do this.

    • Principal Blackman says:
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      @Dolemite: You must be the person who plays FOX Fantasy Baseball! It all makes sense now.

      • J-FOH says:
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        @Principal Blackman: HA! His team name is the Hannity Hackers

    • Grey

      Grey says:
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      @Dolemite: If anything I’d think a Dolemite would raise the fist and fight the man!

      • Ante GALIC says:
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        @Grey: First off, am not defending dolemite; however, just remember that Kennedy lost Bay of Pigs I because of “group think”…that is, he assembled a team of like-minded droids who dared not say anything against the President. In his second and successful attempt at Bay of Pigs he assembled a diverse team, everyone who had a smart thing to say was allowed to speak and the best way forward was found!

        Now it’ll sound like I’m defending Grey, but this room has great diverse-minded thinkers and fantasy ballers who would never let Grey get away with something they didn’t agree with. This includes those who appreciate Posey, Freeman, Mauer etc more than Grey as an example. There are other fine examples of players who are preferred less by Grey. Everybody (even Dolomite) has the right to put in their $0.02 but let’s make the criticism constructive. Just look at the diversity among the leadership of this site…it is the beauty, and what’s at the very core, of Razzball.

        So, to dolemite…you are way off base with your comments.

        Cheers,
        Ante

        • Grey

          Grey says:
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          Ha, I don’t mind voice of opposition at all…I was kidding with the whole Dolemite/sticking it to the man thing due to Dolemite’s origins…

          • Ante GALIC says:
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            @Grey: Yeah, it’s like the 70s song…’Break it to him gently’. More or less, most of us our delusional in our love of player X, sometimes reality kicks you in the nuts.

            Cheers,
            Ante

            • Grey

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              It always does, except for Giancarlo

          • stickingittotheman says:
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            @Grey: Count me among those who do not appreciate the political undertones in fantasy baseball analysis. It’s the reason I no longer read Passan.

            The suggestion that Hamilton is only getting sympathy because he is white is a blatant political swipe, as evidenced by your subsequent swipe against Arizona. The clear reason for the sympathy was his proactive admission, which Pettite received similar treatment for. Maybe Hamilton is also getting the benefit of the doubt because of the humongous amount of charitable and humanitarian work he does, or how tremendously generous he is with his money.

            But regardless of anyone’s opinion on the issue, this would have been a better article without the political swipes and those swipes caused me to enjoy your website less.

            • Grey

              Grey says:
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              Just saying what I felt on the topic… I follow politics about as much as someone who only reads the entertainment and sports section of a paper…

              • Mike

                Mike says:
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                No comics? I won’t spoil anything, but Andy Capp got in trouble with his wife again…

                • Grey

                  Grey says:
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                  Whoa, spoiler alert, bruh!

            • Happy Vegans says:
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              @stickingittotheman: Then don’t read the website… or better yet, continue to read the website. The more information you take in from multiple sources, the better you become to filter out the “noise” and see things for how they really are.

              I still say the best idea ever put into action re: group-think is Israel’s Devil’s Advocacy Office.

              • stickingittotheman says:
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                @Happy Vegans: I think the fact that you can’t distinguish between the opinion at issue and “information” sort of turns your point back on yourself, no?

                • Happy Vegans says:
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                  @stickingittotheman: Hmmm, no!

                  Sorry for the confusion, but it’s been a long week. Combine that with a stiff couple of drinks and what you get is a mash up of a bunch of thoughts. So to clarify, the first sentence was in response to your comment re: not enjoying the site because of the “blatant political swipes”. Again, read the blog or don’t read it… it’s your choice. But if Grey’s comments shake your world-view paradigm to the point of blogging a response of dissatisfaction, then you need to expand your horizons. Honestly, I don’t give a $hi# about Grey’s opinions outside of baseball… and I don’t care about JFOH’s opinions… and JeF’s… and/or anyone else around this site. But I do take everyone’s opinions all in. It helps to keep my belief system honest and if that belief system becomes challenged, these “opinions” provide me with the impetus to explore issues on a deeper level.

                  I accomplish this by taking in as much information from as many and varied sources as possible. This process allows me to, at the very least, understand where the other person is coming from. I might not agree, but at least I understand. The last thing I want for myself is to become cloistered in the church of my own magnificence.

                  As for the last sentence, this was in response to someone’s comment about group-think. It is one of the five best techniques I’ve ever used for group decision making. Google it sometime. There are some incredible academic/professional papers available that explain in details its benefits and uses.

                  Have a great day!

                  • J-FOH says:
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                    @Happy Vegans: you dont care about my opinions, feelings hurt!

                    • Happy Vegans says:
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                      @J-FOH: Yeah, Mr. FOH. I have a pretty good idead how much your feelings are hurt!

                      But then again, you are your own man… which is why I respect and admire you, damn it.

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    I was pretty upset when VH1 pulled the plug on Celebrity Rehab. Favorite episode had to be they losing Leif Garrett at the beach. Luckily Michael Lohan was able to find him.

    I need Wainwright healthy with a high ADP just so he goes before the pitchers I would actually draft!

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      @Jvslyke:
      Dammit, I was wrong. Lohan was the following season. Must have been Eric Roberts. Either way, Dr Drew was decked out in a shirt/tie and fresh pair of Cole Haans. Hardly appropriate apparel for the beach or running down a coked up 70’s teen hearthrob

  12. de nachos says:
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    James Taylor kicked heroin by rowing a boat. Maybe Hamilton needs to be traded up the PCH so he can toodle around McCovey Cove between at bats.

    • JeF With 1 F says:
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      @de nachos: He may try to catch a white ball falling from the sky in his nose…could be bad

    • Grey

      Grey says:
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      @de nachos: Why are you not a drug counselor?

      • J-FOH says:
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        @Grey: if I was a drug counselor I would give them all peyote and lead them on a journey to the root of their addiction and face whatever it was that made them choose this path of escaping reality in the hopes they can move on to a mentally healthy life free of the chains of addiction.

        • Grey

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          Sounds like a scene from an Oliver Stone movie

          • J-FOH says:
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            @Grey: I do feel like the Oliver stone of fantasy sometimes

        • Happy Vegans says:
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          @J-FOH: They are called Ayahuasca tours, Mr. FOH.

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    I don’t think Hamilton is getting a pass because of what you suggested. I think it has more to do with the guy is a constant redemption story. He didn’t just have a drug problem like Strawberry or a steroid-ego problem like Bonds, this guys was homeless and far down the rabbit hole of drugs. Then his life roared back. It’s obvious his addiction is very bad if he has a hired handler (who must of took the night off) and remember, it’s so bad his team celebrated winning with ginger ale. Ginger ale. He also has been very open about his struggles and candid with the public.

    • JeF With 1 F says:
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      @Keith: Or maybe he has a new “Handler”

    • Jay

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      @Keith: I’m pretty sure that Strawberry was down a rabbit hole, and has been very open with his struggles in all aspects of his life. And an ego problem is not comparable.

      • tvators says:
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        @Jay: pretty sure strawberry was not vilified nor do I remember a criminal case rev al, I do remember plenty of 2nd chances and everyone still living him and doc despite the color of their skin out torii Hunter’s racist homophobic commentary, but who cares I have my first draft tomorrow aint drafting doc, straw Hamilton or Hunter,

        • Principal Blackman says:
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          @tvators: I can’t breathe.

      • Montezuma's Revenge... right now says:
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        @Jay: i’m now indirectly “related” to strawberry, my god father’s daughter (he has 5), is married to him. He’s cool to hang around with and watch college basketball around christmas time with. although probably not as fun as it would’ve been in the 80’s.

    • Grey

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      @Keith: Good examples but I’d say they weren’t given a pass… Doc Gooden and Strawberry battled drugs and SI’s cover read “The Dead End Kids.” Tell me Hamilton would have a cover that cruel?

      • Jeff P says:
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        @Grey: What about Ron Washington as a drug abuser/sympathetic figure?

        • Grey

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          Was he sympathetic?

      • Copperhead Road says:
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        @Grey: And remember Steve Howe from that era. Suspended 7 times. Kept being given breaks.

        • Grey

          Grey says:
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          Yeah, that era was crazy with it though… The entire 86 Mets team is likely whacked out of their mind…

    • J-FOH says:
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      @Keith: if he was a middle of the road player then no one cares. He’ll if he wasn’t an athlete then no one cares. It’s ridiculous to let what the media chooses to be our stories of hope and redemption be our talking points. I would much prefer to talk about people who really had it rough.

  14. Joeg414 says:
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    Good morning Grey and everyone else; I Just did a quick mock draft , your opinion please. Who was picked too early, and who was a steal? Thanks.
    13 Team Daily 6×6 mixed, with keepers ( one hitter & One pitcher from last year’s round ).
    13th pick in a snake draft.
    Starting Team
    Player – Round
    Bryce Harper (Was)-1
    Ian Desmond (Was)-2
    Todd Frazier (Cin)-3
    Carlos Santana (Cle)-4
    Jeff Samardzija (CWS)-5
    Prince Fielder (Tex)-6
    Jorge Soler (ChC)-7
    Gerrit Cole (Pit)-8
    Rendon-keeper-9
    Marcell Ozuna (Mia)-10
    Zach Wheeler (NYM)-11
    Lucas Duda (NYM)-12
    Avisail Garcia (CWS)-13
    J.Zimmerman-Keeper-14
    Francisco Rodriguez-15
    Santiago Casilla (SF)-16
    Travis d’Arnaud (NYM)-17
    James Paxton (Sea)-18
    Adam Eaton (CWS)-19
    Tyler Clippard (Oak)-20
    Wilmer Flores (NYM)-21
    Carlos Martinez (StL)-22

    • Grey

      Grey says:
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      @Joeg414: You can compare it to my rankings to see…Looks like everyone after 8th round was a steal

  15. Regan says:
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    Crackhead with 100 million dollars….recipe for disaster!

  16. Lincecuminmypants says:
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    I think you can simultaneously feel sympathy for the guy AND use the coverage as an example to highlight the double standard of race and drug use. They’re not mutually exclusive. And there’s certainly never any good reason to resort to involving Matchbox 20.

    On to other matters. Is this a fair deal in a 12 team, 5×5 h2h, 7 keeper league? I have Miggy (3b) and Goldy (1b) and the thought of adding the Dred Pirate to that triumvirate is enticing.

    Matt Kemp (3), Teheran (15), Frazier (15)
    for
    McCutchen (1) and Stroman (15)

    Thanks!

    • JeF With 1 F says:
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      @Lincecuminmypants: If you can get Cutch and Stroman for those three…DO IT!….I’d be surprised if the other owner took that though

      • Lincecuminmypants says:
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        @JeF With 1 F: Thanks. I pitched him a similar deal with the idea that adding Kemp and Teheran at their costs for Dred would be a better haul given that it allows him to access his first round draft pick that would’ve been used to keep Dred.

        • JeF With 1 F says:
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          @Lincecuminmypants: Good Luck…hope it works for you

  17. Mrs.Featherbottom says:
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    The most shocking revelation from the whole Hamilton fiasco is the fact that he is scheduled to make close to 90 million over the next three years. This for a dude who has more strike outs than games played since 2011.

  18. TheTinDoor

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    “I have little sympathy for Hamilton…” And then you describe how OTHER PEOPLE react to his being a white drug addict as opposed to another ethnicity as the primary reason. That’s not on Hamilton!
    I’m on board with your thoughts about how poorly addicts of other ethnicities are treated by the culture, but I still have sympathy for this particular addict.

  19. CMUTIMMAH says:
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    Grey – YOU NAILED IT. Josh Gordon is a monster for smoking a little weed. Hamilton is a ‘conflicted individual’. You are 100% right race is involved here. (Full disclosure: I’m white… live 15 minutes north of Detroit.. Pass 15 Josh Hamiltons on my way downtown every day for work)

    I disagree with your Schoop love, and I completely agree EverCab kills even potential value for him.

    Yasmani Tomas is intriguing to me. I can draft him as a minor leaguer, but his 3B elligibility really doesn’t help me in the future as I assume Rendon is going to man the hot corner in future years for me. We also, so some dumb reason, have fielding percentage as a category (15 hitting categories) so I’m worried he’s going to Pedro Alverez/Mark Reynolds that category, so I don’t think I want to draft him for this year. If he fails at 3B and has to play OF, he would actually represent more value for me, something completely different from any other league I would assume.

    Wainwright terrifies me, I’m going to try and trade him early in the season if he has any success, unfortunately, I don’t have any other options for keepers. If he starts out hot, I’m sure I’ll find a taker. We have 3 DL slots in this league though, so he might not hurt me to hang onto.

    Draft date finally set for April 3. Latest draft I have ever done, usually this league drafts first week of spring training. I’m sure this is going to be a tougher draft to prep for because people will know more about rotations and starters than they usually do.

    • PK says:
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      @CMUTIMMAH: “Pass 15 Josh Hamiltons on my way downtown every day for work”

      That put a smile on my face.

    • Principal Blackman says:
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      @CMUTIMMAH: The Josh Gordon comp perfectly illustrates the discrepancy.

      • Five-On-One says:
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        @Principal Blackman: No, the Josh Gordon Comp does not illustrate any discrepancy. Why? First, weed is very different from alcohol and coke, mainly in terms of addictive-ness (is that a word?). Hamilton is addicted to various substances, not sure Josh Gordon is. Second, most people I heard didn’t vilify Josh Gordon (maybe called him out for continuing to smoke weed) but instead vilified the NFL for having an idiotic drug policy. Third, there is no third. Fourth, Gordon plays in the NFL, where steroid use/abuse is routinely forgiven, as is virtually anything else the footballers do, while MLB players are generally treated much differently. The Strawberry / Gooden comps is much more accurate. Same sport, similar addiction profile, not much vilification. Maybe race is not so much a part of this?

    • Grey

      Grey says:
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      @CMUTIMMAH: Yup…And yeah I’m worried about Schoop, and lowered him in the rankings…. Drafting later is better, you don’t want ST injuries to play a part in your team’s success…

  20. pickleball says:
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    what’s up guys. nearly March and -15 degrees where I reside (midwest). downright shameful

    would you trade a $39 miguel cabrera for $20 Anthony Rendon

    it’s a keepr league, and i’ve invested in Goldschmit 2 years ago at $10, rizzo last year at $12… no need for 3 first basemen (especially when owning goldy + rizzo for cheaper)

  21. goodfold2 says:
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    razzballers, if you try to use war room and get this:”The page you were looking for doesn’t exist.

    You may have mistyped the address or the page may have moved”
    just make up a new email and it’ll work. Last night i tried both emails i used last year, and got this message whether i tried to log in as existing user or new user, and each time got that message, i cleaned cookies and restarted each time and always got that message, until i just made up a new email, and that worked.

    • Grey

      Grey says:
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      @goodfold2: It works with a new email because the old one is using old cookies… I had the same problem, cleared cookies and it worked…

      • goodfold2 says:
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        @Grey: i’ve tried clearing cookies,both in chrome (not just cookies, i’ve cleared all preexisting data in chrome), and usuing C Cleaner as well, which also cleans cookies. Neither worked last night. i can just make up more email addresses, it’s not like i can’t keep coming up with names.

        • Grey

          Grey says:
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          Not sure, maybe you need to do a hard refresh after… Either way, you’ve figured out a workaround, right?

          • goodfold2 says:
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            @Grey: yeah, i just make up new email names (possibly for each draft), that seems to work. Only other thing i can think of is go back to factory settings (last ditch effort when viruses get in), but that takes a couple hours of reloading programs/bookmarks etc.

            • Grey

              Grey says:
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              Yeah, just use a new email

  22. Cronut Burger says:
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    Greetings, Grey! I’m hoping you can help clarify something for me. Can Josh Hamilton start serving his suspension while he is on the DL, or does the suspension kick in as soon as he is ready to play again? Also, does C.J. Cron’s fantasy value take a big jump with Hamilton sidelined? Thanks.

    • Grey

      Grey says:
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      @Cronut Burger: DL and suspension don’t work… Angels could not put him on the DL so he can rehab his injury while serving his suspension… But he’s not worth drafting anyway…. I like Cron a lot, but I want to see something concrete with his PT before adjusting him

  23. LouisvilleSlugger says:
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    In regards to Josh Hamilton and some of the backlash he has received. Look at it like this folks; Would you rather have more Josh Hamilton’s in the game, or more Ryan Braun and A-rod’s in the game? Really think about that for moment now … yeah that’s an easy decision. Hamilton has at least manned up and doesn’t hide his problems. He addresses them head on and he’s only human. People like him because he’s flawed. We all are. If you think you’re perfect and that you don’t hide from some of your own mistakes and demons, then you’re a liar. Hamilton can be bigger than life on the baseball field, but when you hear the man speak, he’s genuine. Flaws and all, I’m going to keep pulling for him. Just my humble opinion. Looking forward to a great season of baseball friends.

    • Malicious Phenom says:
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      @LouisvilleSlugger:
      Best post on here today..

    • Grey

      Grey says:
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      @LouisvilleSlugger: Did he fall off the wagon the day before he turned himself in or months after? Seriously, don’t know, asking… Does it matter how long ago his transgressions were?

      • LouisvilleSlugger says:
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        @Grey:

        I haven’t heard, and it doesn’t really matter I suppose. I’d rather see him speak up before the media or his team does it for him. My personal opinion was that moving to L.A. for the money was the wrong move for him. I think he had some bitterness towards Texas, but it was a better environment for him as a person. L.A. is obviously all about the night life and the parties. It just seems like if you’re a person with addiction, you would want to steer clear from that. I still wish him well. You’re right though, we shouldn’t feel sorry for adults who mess up. They made their own decision. In his case I do have some empathy for him.

  24. JeF With 1 F says:
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    Grey!! You racist bastard!!!!….How could you???

    • Principal Blackman says:
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      @JeF With 1 F: He’s the Donald Sterling of Razzball Nation.

    • LouisvilleSlugger says:
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      @JeF With 1 F:

      Grey does kind of sound like he hates whitey in his article haha

        • J-FOH says:
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          @Grey: Marge schott has new company

        • LouisvilleSlugger says:
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          @Grey:

          LOL nice

  25. Fireball Feliz says:
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    “Josh hit a bump in the road” and that’s me quoting Hambone’s father in law. When I first read that I pictured Josh driving down skid row in his douchy red Mazerati, seeing some spare coke on the street, then pulling over and taking it strait to the dome.

    Be thankful you aren’t a Rangers fan and live in Texas. Every time I catch a Rangers/Angels game I have old christian farts telling me “pipe down sunny, don’t boo the poor man. Don’t you remember all he did for this team?”

    Ya, I remember the 10th inning game 6 2 run homer that should have fulfilled my childhood dream, but I also remember all the bullshit that came along with him that you conveniently forget because in your christian fantasy land he’s this amazingly great “from the gutter to MVP thanks to Jeebus” character. The reality is he’s a doucher who pounds Crown Royal and bones fat chicks in Sherlock’s bathroom one night while the next night he’s reading Corinthians and lying to himself about what a great guy he is.

    • Mrs.Featherbottom says:
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      @Fireball Feliz: Nice! I’ve had a belief for sometime that folks who play fantasy baseball, and especially read Razzball, are more often than not inclined to have a more pragmatic and logical understanding of the ways of the world than say fantasy footballers and old christian farts.

      • GleamTeam_Matt says:
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        @Mrs.Featherbottom:

        In the most delicious wayyyyy

    • JeF With 1 F says:
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      @Fireball Feliz: I think you read it wrong, it was “Josh DID a bump in the road”

      • Grey

        Grey says:
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        Haha

  26. William Bobby says:
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    OMG OMG OMG we have updates!!!!!

    When things happen to players and you adjust your rankings, do you adjust all of them? Like, you changed your top 100 OFers… do you also adjust the top 400?

  27. Adam Miller says:
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    Hey Grey,

    What do you think of my slow draft team through 14 rounds?

    12 Team Roto Keeper (7 x 7 – OBP, SLG, K/BB, HLD)
    [C] [1B] Todd Frazier [3B] Kyle Seager [CI] Carlos Santana
    [2B] Howie Kendrick [SS] Hanley Ramirez [MI]
    [OF] Corey Dickerson | Christian Yelich | Jorge Soler [UT] Mookie Betts | Lucas Duda
    [BN] A.J. Pollock
    [SP] Chris Sale | Jake Arrieta
    [RP] Steve Cishek

    Our draft has been really weird with pitching (the Shoemaker tier is all still available) so I have put in an effort to stock pile quality hitting.

    • Grey

      Grey says:
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      @Adam Miller: You look light on power and slightly heavier on speed… You obviously need SPs…Not a bad team so far though

  28. Strolg says:
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    Judge Smails: I demand satisfaction. Al Czervik: Yeah, well I’ll tell you what’s satisfying, CASH!
    Cougs R Us is looking for a few more players in our $100 buy in Razzball league. Second year, last year we were a top five league. Email me if you are interested and I’ll give you the scoop. Addicts of all shapes and sizes welcome!

    • Cram It says:
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      @Strolg: Doh! Wish you said something earlier. I’m all about the money…leagues. Put me on the short list for next year.

  29. Oskar says:
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    Normally, I don’t like my sports with a side of social justice.

    But, in this case, well done sir.

  30. goldirocks says:
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    As a Kipnis owner in a 12 team keep-forever 15 player yahoo keeper 6X6 ROTO league, I’m very concerned with Duda and his strained oblique.
    Kipnis was quite yawnstipating last season with on-going oblique issues, which robbed him of any power he had. At least he could still steal a decent amount of bases for me… while Duda only really safely offers power if healthy.

    • Grey

      Grey says:
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      @goldirocks: Yeah, everyone’s different though and Duda can shut down for a few weeks without even missing games

  31. Clint says:
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    Grey, when you do these updates to your rankings, what’s the easiest way to keep war room excel tool updated without cutting and pasting everything? And how can we identify your favorite and most hated players within it?

    • Grey

      Grey says:
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      @Clint: “Your favorite and most hated” are from the blurbs…You can tell by reading the rankings… I have no idea how to update the Excel sheet, I don’t make it

      • Clint says:
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        @Grey:
        I knew where they were from. Just thought maybe the tool autopopulated them somehow or something since it seems to be designed heavily around your lists and all.

        • Grey

          Grey says:
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          Ah…No, not that I know of…But the War Room is a user-produced thing, I don’t know it…

  32. Gareth says:
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    Powerful stuff, Greg.

  33. Gareth says:
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    Powerful stuff, Grey.

  34. Reno 911 says:
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    Wasn’t “EverCab” a Genesis song?

    • Grey

      Grey says:
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      @Reno 911: I think of EverCab as the cheesy 90s group

    • Ante GALIC says:
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      @Reno 911: You’re thinking of Abacab!

      Cheers,
      Ante

  35. goldirocks says:
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    Hi Grey. Love reading your posts regularly!

    Perhaps a few words to dispel my intent to veer to the dark side and keep a closer instead of Duda or Latos?
    .
    Rudy has given me pause regarding Latos in his post 2 days ago (and he’s not the only one with concerns over his reduced velocity, k/9, and injury treatments). I Like Latos’ new team/park though!
    Duda was on my keeper roster bubble as basically ‘found money’ off the waiver wire last year. I’ve pretty much convinced myself with your input to keep Avisail as my 4th upside OF…
    Duda was likely going to be on my bench as a luxury/trading chip anyways, barring injury or performance issues of other better/safer keepers in the 2 extra lineup spots (utility and inf).

    Projected kept 15 player roster:
    1b Goldy
    1b/inf Freeman
    2b Kipnis
    3b Arenado
    SS I.Desmond
    utility Todd Frazier
    OF Puig
    OF A.Gordon
    OF C.Dickerson
    OF A.Garcia
    SP Carrasco
    SP Greinke
    SP Latos
    SP Salazar
    15th spot: RP Holland (or bench bat Duda?)

    Duda already hasn’t swung the bat for 3 weeks or so, and is expected to rest another week at least…
    With this news; I’m tempted to keep stud closer Holland instead (who I was all set to drop with your advice re: SAGNOF ) and get needed saves, K/inning and outstanding other ratios for my pitching categories. League history suggests all other top closers will be kept by others. (Or maybe, I should just drop/trade Latos instead and keep Duda and Holland!!??)
    .
    Duda will likely be nabbed before I pick again in the draft, but maybe not with this news? Holland would be gone for sure; but Cischek and Perkins might be there for me?
    As all my hitter spots are filled with my keepers, I plan on drafting starting pitching where-ever I can in the draft, which keeping Holland affords me. I will also likely have a chance to nab an un-kept B.Belt; or even Kennys Vargas much later for some power upside on my bench? Or I go for a steals SAGNOF guys on my bench, which is a weaker point I think for my team anyways?…
    We have to decide our protected keepers in 2 weeks. Its too bad, I liked Duda’s upside and potential for more and was willing to sacrifice my top end closer. Now, I’m not sure the health risk is worth keeping him over Holland; even though Holland is ‘just a closer’?

    Thoughts? Advice?

    • Cram It says:
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      @goldirocks: I’d keep Holland over Duda, who’s a bench bat anyway, every day of the week and twice on Sunday.

    • Catcher Fever says:
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      @goldirocks: cliff notes version please

    • Grey

      Grey says:
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      @goldirocks: Agree with Cram, Holland is a great fall back option

      • goldirocks says:
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        @Grey:
        Thx for your (and Cram it) input!

        • Grey

          Grey says:
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          No problem

  36. Hawk says:
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    Hey all,

    6×6 league where we keep 7. We use OBP instead of BA. TB is the other category. Keep forever, no prices or round value.

    I’d give Puig + 8th + 11th
    I’d get Harper + 15th + 18th

    What do you think?

    • Grey

      Grey says:
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      @Hawk: Harper side

  37. GleamTeam_Matt says:
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    Grey.. 7×7 12-team keeper league. $260 to work with. I get to keep 1 pitcher and 1 hitter for 1 year.

    Was gonna keep Dee Gordon for $1 and Kershaw for $33. Seem solid? I know this goes against your whole methodology of waiting on pitchers, but I WILL be getting what I pay for after all, right?

  38. Peter says:
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    Keeper Help.

    Need to keep 2 of the 3.

    I lose the round to draft someone.

    12 team rotisserie

    Brantley ……Rd 24
    Blackmon….. Rd 27
    Sale………….. Rd 6

    • Hawk says:
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      @Peter:

      I’d keep Sale and Brantley.

    • Cram It says:
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      @Peter: Agree with Hawk

    • Grey

      Grey says:
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      @Peter: What others said

  39. David says:
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    I mean, Wainwright is the perfect auction $1 first round throw out, right? If you get stuck for a $1, he’ll earn it, but otherwise someone will bid him way up.

  40. Sky

    Sky says:
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    It is blue black…and god damn you for perpetuating the worst twitter day of all time. At least you didn’t discuss Llama drama…anyways, the EverCab news will be great for SAGNOF in about a month and possibly leading off. You heard it here first. Or read it here, I guess.

    • Cram It says:
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      @Sky: O’s don’t steal very much. In fact, they were dead last, last year. Has a lot to do with Showalter. So, what I’m saying is, I disagree with you. Tell yo Llama I said hi!

      • Sky

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        @Cram It: I wouldn’t steal many bases either if Markakis were my lead off man for most of the year with Cruz/Davis/Pearce/Hardy batting behind them. I think the low totals have more to do with personnel than what they want to do. De Aza attempted 5 in just 20 games with him. That would’ve been 37 attempts. Team could use some speed.

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          @Sky: I think the no-run philosophy is because of the personnel. Meaning that because of the boppers they have, and HR-or-bust-style in Camden, Showalter doesn’t like giving up outs. It’s just what I heard.

          • Sky

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            I see that partially. But at that point, why sign a guy who really only brings speed to the table. I’m not saying he steals 50 but wouldn’t be surprised by 30 bags

            • Cram It says:
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              @Sky: Speed on the base paths. Not for stealing. Pinch runner/sac bunter-maybe-for-a-base-hit extraordinaire.

              • Sky

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                Sounds like Jimmy Paredes, someone they already had for about 2 million less than Everth.

                • Del Griffith says:
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                  @Sky: But then again, McLouth got over 30 steals with them in ’13, and it wasn’t that big of a personnel difference to last season except for Cruz.

                  • Sky

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                    Assuming you meant that for Cram because Mclouth kinda proves my point.

                    • Cram It says:
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                      @Del Griffith: @Sky: 1. Mclouth was also with them in 2012, when the were last in SB’s also. 2. Mclouth had 600 AB’s in 2013. Of course, if ECab gets that many AB’s he’ll have 30+ SB’s. But you’re reading tea leaves in predicting his PT. Tea leaves!

                    • Sky

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                      You’re right, Nate was with them in 2012. He played in 55 games and garnered 209 ABs while stealing 12 bases on 13 attempts. Based on the math, if he had kept that pace for ABs and stolen bases over 146 games like he did in 2013, he steals 30 bags. I wouldn’t say it’s as much tea leaves as it is reading between the lines. I don’t think he’s a pinch runner for $2.5 million and that’s the reason why I don’t think we’re predicting PT as much as we’re looking at what Baltimore wants from him. He still has to produce to prove he’s worth it but I don’t think they want him as a pinch runner off the bench with this signing. You don’t have to take action on him right now but he’s either starting out of spring training or he’s in the starting lineup by May in my book.

    • Grey

      Grey says:
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      @Sky: I have Siri read me the comments so you were right at first

      • Cram It says:
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        @Grey: People still use Siri? Thought that was a tech fad. Like picture in picture TV.

        • Grey

          Grey says:
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          That reminds me of the glow in the dark Fox hockey puck

          • Carnac says:
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            and I thought you didn’t follow basketball!

            • Grey

              Grey says:
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              Ha…I have to now that JB is hosting the podcast…I must relate

              • Carnac says:
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                I heard JB doesn’t even like basketball… he just has to follow it because he’s tall :-(

                • Grey

                  Grey says:
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                  First question this Sunday, where did you get that Maxwell Smart jersey?

                • Cram It says:
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                  @Cram It: I thought only non-whites liked basketball. Is that racist? Dammit Grey, see what you did!

      • Sky

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        @Grey: A Hardy back problem or a Schoop failure to grow is all it takes. I hear they’re trying him out in the OF, too. He’s an NFBC target for me whenever that draft thingie kicks off.

        • Grey

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          If it’s like last year, it kicks off while we’re in Arizona…. I have EverCab down for 375 ABs and 20 SBs, that feels about right without clarity to the situation

          • Sky

            Sky says:
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            @Grey: That’s totally fair. I really think the signing is more than depth but we’ll see. Hopefully Everth can get into Chris Davis’ adderall stash.

            • Grey

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              I will say I wouldn’t be shocked if the O’s say Schoop is going to the minors to work on some things

              • Sky

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                Like contact. He was alright defensively. Probably the only thing I think he completely owns over Everth other than power but Cab has the speed component over him. Schoop seems more and more like a guy whose best season is he hits .240 with a .280 OBP and 20 HRs. It’s not bad for fantasy but at 23, if he were in my organization I’d want him to work on some things like you said before that’s his upside.

                • Grey

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                  I do think Showalter is more of a 3-run homer type manager than a station to station guy

                  • Sky

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                    Oh sure and with that stadium and the Snider trade that is more than apparent and fair. But I also think they let De Aza run when they had him. Hell, if De Aza falters, they are playing Everth in the OF in Spring Training. Maybe he ends up in LF.

                    • Grey

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                      I do hope EverCab gets a starting job, will be a great cheap SAGNOF option like Gordon last year

                    • Sky

                      Sky says:
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                      Yup yup. Wait, what Razzball guy drafted Gordon on 7 of his 8 teams last year…help me Grey I just can’t quite remember

                    • Grey

                      Grey says:
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                      Ha, yup… Can’t go wrong with a late flier on a guy that could give you 40+ SBs

                    • J-FOH says:
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                      @Sky: I noticed this conversation steers away from Baltimore pitching

                    • Sky

                      Sky says:
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                      Baltimore pitching prospects are a reflection of their environment. I.e., not good.

                    • J-FOH says:
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                      @Sky: I just like hearing you say it

                    • Sky

                      Sky says:
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                      How do you picture me saying it, though?

                    • J-FOH says:
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                      @Sky: like Mick Jaggar whispering it in my ear

                    • Sky

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                      I’d worry his big lips would get stuck in there.

                    • J-FOH says:
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                      @Sky: thats why I want you to say it, british accent and all

                    • Sky

                      Sky says:
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                      ‘You can’t GET no satisfaction from young Oriole arms’

    • Ante GALIC says:
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      @Sky: Sky! By the by, it’s anyway and not as you penned it ‘anyways’. I know I’m gonna get murdered for this b/c I make one mistake every seven key strokes.

      Cheers,
      Ante

  41. Cognoscere says:
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    “White lines…blow away…”

    So on to more pressing matters…a little help from the peanut gallery please!
    Keeper league trade offer:
    I get Danny Salazar, Melky C., and David Robertson
    for
    J. Fernandez, A Heaney, and Aaron Sanchez
    the $$ values are even and each player can be kept for 3 more years
    Do I do this trade? I own Trout, Arenado, Wong, Teheran, Gray, Hutchison, G.Holland as well.
    Thanks!

  42. Carnac says:
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    100% agree on Hamilton.

    Sorry, Dolomite, but not acknowledging these issues is also political.

    • J-FOH says:
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      @Carnac: I shall not confirm nor deny anything

  43. Jay says:
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    What ever happened to smoking a joint, eating a cheeseburger, and going the f*ck to bed?

    • Grey

      Grey says:
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      Haha

  44. Scott Gowans says:
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    “If he were non-white, there would be no sympathy from anyone. A Josh Hamiltonguez would be released by his club and the public’s silence would be deafening.” —
    Sorry Grey. I love your stuff, but you’re off-base (so to speak) on this one. I’ve worked with addicts, and I feel for all of them. Addiction knows no race for some of us.
    – Scott

    • Grey

      Grey says:
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      I’m sure you do, but the media doesn’t seem to feel the same

  45. Duda Want to Build a Snowman? says:
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    Polanco seems to be going way too late in mocks. Do you think this could be the year he posts a Marte-esque season for the price of a back-end OF?

    • Grey

      Grey says:
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      Yeah, I like him a lot

  46. J-FOH says:
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    Leonard Nimoy dies. We will need to console Jay. I’m here for you my Korish friend

    • Grey

      Grey says:
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      Aw…

  47. Goosta says:
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    “family and is white, especially the last one. If he were non-white, there would be no sympathy from anyone”

    a typically dumbshit liberal response.

    Media, those people who circulate these stories in the first place, are uniformly liberal and make a living off of waxing sentimental about the horrifying ‘racism’ of the elusive, evil cabal of cisgendered white men underlying whatever black issue that happens to be ginned-up at the moment, re: Trayvon, Ferguson, #2015 Oscars, Loretta Lynch’s appointment, Seattle Seahawks #ican’tbreathe, the list goes on.

    Having said that, Hamilton indeed deserves no sympathy because he’s had a hundred chances and has blown nearly all of them. It also explains why he’s been sucking ass since 2012.

    • Grey

      Grey says:
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      I like the ‘having said that’ ha…

    • job3rd says:
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      @Goosta: Boy, that Rush is a knee-slapper!

      • ashtray says:
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        @job3rd: Mega Dittos!!!

    • ashtray says:
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      @Goosta: Dude…

    • The Harrow says:
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      @Goosta: isn’t entirely possible and neh, logical that maybe your 3rd paragraph in no way excludes the likely truth that a black/hispanic guy doing what hamilton is doing would get a much worse response from MLB/media? Now what’s making you say otherwise could be the more interesting part of this.

    • job3rd says:
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      @Goosta: I’ve figured it out. The Goosta’s of the world are starring as Truman, from The Truman Show movie. Only instead, brain-washing info is pumped in, via the Limbaugh’s/Hannity etc. to the people they wish to thought-control. Keep ’em fearful: ‘we must seal our borders with a tall fence’, ‘their taking our jobs’, ‘obummer means more handouts, wealth re-distribution’… all designed to drive a wedge… and, it works. And just like the show, the ‘producers’ don’t care about Truman. It’s all a means to an end. And Truman keeps spewing what they want him to. Hey, the good news: It won’t last forever. “Ginned up”?!?! Now that’s a good one.

  48. Rob says:
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    Who do you think is the better 5th keeper? Cano in the 1st or Sonny Gray in the 10th? Expecting most of the big name 1st/2nd rounders to be kept.

    The rest of my keepers are Stanton (2nd), Scherzer (5th), Rizzo (6th), and Rendon (21st).

    • JeF With 1 F says:
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      @Rob: Kind of depends who would be available to draft in the first over Cano

    • Grey

      Grey says:
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      Cano

      • Rob says:
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        @Grey:

        Cool, that’s who I was leaning toward

        @Jef

        True, but I really have no clue who will be available (and won’t until after keepers have been declared, of course). Its all but certain, though, that the consensus first rounders will all be kept.

        Thanks guys!

  49. Great White North says:
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    Exactly what purpose does it serve for an employer to publically disclose the results of a medical test? Why is it any or our business that Josh Hamilton has an addiction problem? So does a big chunck of our society. Can he hit a baseball or not? And fuck the “he let his team down”, what about the chidren”. How about the employer talk to the man privately, and discuss treatment options if he so chooses. How about we drop the communal puritanism? How about we drug test for the RCLs?

    • JeF With 1 F says:
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      @Great White North: Please strike your last sentence from the record

      • Great White North says:
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        @JeF With 1 F: Or organize leagues by drug type of choice.

    • Grey

      Grey says:
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      Ha, RCLs are gonna have to be suspended in their entirety

      • SteveNZ says:
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        @Grey: Hey!

    • Montezuma's Revenge... right now says:
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      @Great White North: it’s exactly this kind of completely logical, sane thought that would also let these guys do any drug they want, it’s the baseball we care about here, not whether this guy got caught on roids, while this guy’s roids are more expensive and new, so they can test for them yet. Just let them do any drugs they want, if they’re good at baseball it’s their own choice here. Like that all-drug Olympics SNL skit from the 80’s. If you had the all-drug sports, and the crackdown on drug sports, i guarantee you which way the ratings would go.

      • Great White North says:
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        @Montezuma’s Revenge… right now: Nobody seemed to care much about Babe Ruth’s addiction problems. Does the Babe get an asterisk * ?

  50. Micah Stupak-Hahn says:
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    The packy? Didn’t know you’re from MA, Grey…but it does explain some things…

    • Grey

      Grey says:
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      I’m not, went to college there

      • Micah Stupak-Hahn says:
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        @Grey: Ah, so the drinking part of you is from MA. Close enough. ;)

        • Grey

          Grey says:
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          Ha, exactly

  51. Clint says:
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    Somebody light a candle and pour some alcohol as tribute: Juan Pierre’s retiring. Dude was such an underrated speedy beast in his haydays. If only Billy Hamilton could get within shouting distance of his numbers and be the second coming the hype claims he is.

  52. I consistently enjoy and respect Grey’s thinking and writing. But agree with a few here that we shouldn’t jump out (prematurely) with insinuations/expectations of racism. That’s a heavy charge. Better than comparing Hamilton to Gooden & Strawberry (because what happened to the two Mets took place in a different era) might be a comparison to Ron Washington who definitely got a pass (or forgiveness or understanding). And he admitted to cocaine use WHILE managing a team and yet was back the next year. And I don’t recall much outrage about that. Not trying to extend this out but it’s an important issue. Thanks.

    • Grey

      Grey says:
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      I don’t think Washington’s analogy holds completely… A manager isn’t as high profile so general public just doesn’t care…

    • Grey

      Grey says:
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      I do agree that the Gooden/Strawberry analogy has problems due to era…

  53. the tone ranger says:
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    grey, how soon do you think that machado and polanco become top 50 players? I have really tough keeper decisions to make. One of which is miggy who costs a first round to keep vs. keeping machado and/or polanco who would cost a 21st or 22nd round pick this year then move them up 3 rounds per year after that 18, 15, 12, etc)…so do I hang onto miggy or do you get the feeling those guys will be cream of the crop sooner vs. later.

    • Grey

      Grey says:
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      As soon as next year

      • the tone ranger says:
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        @Grey: so who would you keep based on that info and hoping to be competitive this year and for a LONG time in 12 team h2h: miggy (1), goldy (1), Stanton (1), Polanco (22), Machado (21), altuve (8), arrietta (27), donaldson (24), brantley (18), bumgarner (7).
        note: can keep players w/ same draft round but then they bump down a round (i.e. miggy 1, stanton, 2, goldy 3, etc).

        i really knew what i was going to do but now im perplexed based on fear. hahaa

        • Grey

          Grey says:
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          @the tone ranger: I’d keep Miggy if it’s between him and one of those two

  54. L-Boogie says:
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    Took over a keeper team, 12 team, 5×5 with OBP instead of avg. First time ever doing keeper league (just have to remind you of that every time I ask a question about this team).

    Just traded 22nd round Lucroy for 15th round Myers. Seemed like a no brainer but the other owners are all up in arms and want to veto it. They seem to think we are new and dumb and that we got ripped off because of Lucroy’s keeper round and ESPN ranking. Am I the crazy one here for thinking this was good for us? Oh, and this is a 1 catcher league and we are already keeping Gattis in the 18th round.

    Thanks.

    • Grey

      Grey says:
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      @L-Boogie: Sounds solid for you

  55. Today a young man on acid realized that all matter is merely energy condensed to a slow vibration, that we are all one consciousness experiencing itself subjectively, there is no such thing as death, life is only a dream, and we are the imagination of ourselves. Heres Tom with the Weather.

    That’s a quote.

    • Sky

      Sky says:
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      But are you quoting the song or the man? That’s the question.

      • L-Boogie says:
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        @Wake Up: @Sky: Love the song.

    • Grey

      Grey says:
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      Crazy thing is Tom is the young man on acid

    • J-FOH says:
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      @Wake Up: Bill Hicks baby and i didn’t even have to look that up.

      Well played *tips cap*

      • Montezuma's Revenge... right now says:
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        @J-FOH: i knew that one well enough to see that right off (within 8 seconds) too.

  56. IndyMike says:
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    Keepers: Even I can figure out Donaldson is a great value. I can keep three more from the list of six below. Which three in addition to Donaldson?

    Donaldson is costing me my pick in R25 (Pick 500)

    Yelich (R8 / P141)
    Mesoraco (R11 / P220)
    Smyly (R12 / P221)
    Span (R16 / P301)
    W. Peralta (R17 / P340)
    Mejia (R24 / P461)
    Picking dead last at 20 because I read your site and once again finished at the top of the standings. This web site is the best cheat sheet ever. Thanks! Yahoo 20 team h2h league, 6X6 with OPS and holds – C, 1B, 2B, 3B, SS, OF, OF, OF, Util, SP, SP, RP, RP, RP, P, P, P, P, BN, BN, BN, BN, BN, BN, BN, BN, BN, BN, BN, BN

    • Grey

      Grey says:
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      No problem… Yelich, Devin, Span

    • Grey

      Grey says:
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      Eh, you know what? I’m gonna retract and say Wily over Denard, so Wily, Yelich, Devin

      • Grey

        Grey says:
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        Tough call though

        • IndyMike says:
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          @Grey: Thank you greyt swami! Happy I get to keep my Reds’ player – thought you may not go that direction because he’s a C. Also thought you might go with Smyly? Not for me to question – go with the Grey flow and win. My motto. Do you still recommend an “ace” is needed in a 20 team league? Does ace = your first two tiers?

          • Grey

            Grey says:
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            Yeah, you could use an ace in a 20 team league

  57. GhostTownSteve says:
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    Dear Grey,

    I come to Razzball for humor and escape from the pressing, important issues of today. I don’t want to have to take a stand on complicated moral issues nor do I wish to adjudicate in a public form on events about which I cannot ever have adequate information to do so.

    I speak of course of the ad in your banner asking me to click and decide whether certain Hollywood starlets have chosen to enhance their breasts. I say let these troubled young people wrestle with the consequences of their choices in the long dark nights of their own souls.

    Sincerely,

    GhostTown Steve

    • Grey

      Grey says:
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      Haha… I apologize… It could’ve been worse, the ad for which starlet had breast reduction, nahmean?

      • GhostTownSteve says:
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        @Grey:

        It took me all morning to get through all 53 yeah or nays. I guess in the end it’s as much a mistake to turn away from life’s ugly side as it is to fail to embrace, squeeze and suckle its bounteous beauty.

        In other news I’m still in the Schoop camp. Cabrera had a .272 OBP last year. They aren’t leading him off. Sans PEDs, he’s just not that good. Consider that the Padres, the worst offensive team pretty much ever in the first half last year, didn’t feel they needed this guy. It’s going to be DeAza. And left handeed isn’t even necessarily the good side of Cabrera’s split in case you’re worried about a platoon.

        Schoop is a plus plus defender and a 20 homer bat. He’s got every chance to improve this year and he’s got future all star talent. There’s so little for the Orioles to gain by giving Cabrera regular

        • Grey

          Grey says:
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          I hope so, but I’d be lying if the thought of Cabrera taking reps away from Schoop hasn’t made me more concerned this week than I was two weeks ago…. I do think that EverCab is pretty much a weak bat that will just fill in as a pinch runner and for injuries, but he’s there now and I had to drop Schoop a litrle bit b/c of it

      • GhostTownSteve says:
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        @Grey:

        It took me all morning to get through all 53 yeah or nays. I guess in the end it’s as much a mistake to turn away from life’s ugly side as it is to fail to embrace, squeeze and suckle its bounteous beauty.

        In other news I’m still in the Schoop camp. Cabrera had a .272 OBP last year. They aren’t leading him off. Sans PEDs, he’s just not that good. Consider that the Padres, the worst offensive team pretty much ever in the first half last year, didn’t feel they needed this guy. It’s going to be DeAza. And left handeed isn’t even necessarily the good side of Cabrera’s split in case you’re worried about a platoon.

        Schoop is a plus plus defender and a 20 homer bat. He’s got every chance to improve this year and he’s got future all star talent. There’s so little for the Orioles to gain by giving Cabrera regular at bats.

        • Grey

          Grey says:
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          I hope so, but I’d be lying if the thought of Cabrera taking reps away from Schoop hasn’t made me more concerned this week than I was two weeks ago…. I do think that EverCab is pretty much a weak bat that will just fill in as a pinch runner and for injuries, but he’s there now and I had to drop Schoop a litrle bit b/c of it

          • GhostTownSteve says:
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            @Grey:

            It’s always better if there’s no perceived threat to playing time. I guess the question is, should Cabrera be considered a threat. He has one PED fueled season on the books, he’s not a particularly good defensive 2nd baseman. He might be as much insurance for Hardy’s back as anything else. Kind of depends on league and such but Schoop’s always been a reserve round flier more than even an every day MI choice this year anyway.

            • Grey

              Grey says:
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              PEDs is another thing we can send to the fantasy actuaries… Nelson Cruz seemed fueled by PEDs but has been fine since… EverCab did have PEDs red flag, and hasn’t… I do agree with you for the most part on this… Still like Schoop just a tad less…

              • GhostTownSteve says:
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                @Grey:

                For sure PEDs are in the actuarial table. I’d be interested to see if time in college made any difference.

                • Grey

                  Grey says:
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                  Or if college itself made any difference… To baseball players and anyone…

                  • GhostTownSteve says:
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                    @Grey:

                    College definitely helped make me the person I am today…

                    • Grey

                      Grey says:
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                      But you know what Woody Allen says about college and milk

                    • Sky

                      Sky says:
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                      This got me listening to G Love & The Special Sauce’s ‘Milk & Cereal’

                    • Grey

                      Grey says:
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                      I love Rodeo clowns

                    • Sky

                      Sky says:
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                      Ah, you a Jack Johnson fan or is it just that song that grabbed ya? I like the ‘Special Sauce’ days. G Love is a great talent but that was a sweet mix back then.

                    • Grey

                      Grey says:
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                      Loved him back in the day but then when he started doing sound tracks for curious George and crap I stopped

                    • Sky

                      Sky says:
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                      Ah never got into him, was too mellow for me. I like laid back sound but it has to bring some funk with it, i.e. Special Sauce! Learned how to play ‘Cold Beverages’ on guitar cuz it was so groovin.

                    • Grey

                      Grey says:
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                      Nice! Yeah I like some of his older surf sounds I mean Jack Johnson and always liked G love even his new stuff

                    • Sky

                      Sky says:
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                      Gimme a suggestion of Jack’s old stuff. I always like to go back and give stuff a re-listen. Could always be a timing thing of the first time I heard the band that turned me off them.

                    • Grey

                      Grey says:
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                      I loved his first album…

                    • Sky

                      Sky says:
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                      I tried Jack Johnson again. It’s the guitar guy in me; too much strumming. If the end of Flake had been the whole song, I would’ve been on board with the album. And ‘Bubble Toes’ starts off with the same cadence as the bridge in ‘What It Takes’ by Aerosmith. Yeah, I’m that guy…

                    • Grey

                      Grey says:
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                      Yeah, could’ve been a time and place for me… It’s not like I go back and listen to that album often… I did love it at the time

                    • Sky

                      Sky says:
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                      Yeah, I bought Seven Mary Three’s first album when it came out. Music can be phases.

                    • Grey

                      Grey says:
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                      Don’t even get me started on my owning Sister Hazel

                    • Sky

                      Sky says:
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                      At least it wasn’t Bush. Owned the first two albums.

                    • Grey

                      Grey says:
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                      Saw them in concert…only five years ago!

                    • Sky

                      Sky says:
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                      *Monkey covering eyes emoji*

                      I loved the guitar work on the first two, especially the Steve Albini driven ‘Razorblade Suitcase’. Simple but great work by Nigel Puslford but really, go read those lyrics again. Every damn line is like an unfinished thought. Rossdale was the worst!

                    • Grey

                      Grey says:
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                      I never owned an album by them… They were at a music fest that my friend coordinated so it was happenstance I saw them… Still got you to admit your love for Gavin!

                    • Sky

                      Sky says:
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                      Gavin’s last name is Rossdale. My last sentence stands in complete juxtaposition to your chicanery, fine sir!

                    • Grey

                      Grey says:
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                      Just say guilty as charged and move on… You’re busted!

                    • GhostTownSteve says:
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                      @GhostTownSteve:

                      Hey, I didn’t say what I think of the person I am today. Wink

                    • Grey

                      Grey says:
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                      Ha!

  58. Corey says:
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    Grey, I’ve read your reviews of ESPN and Yahoo’s rankings, I’m wondering what your opinion is on Lindy’s rankings?

    • Grey

      Grey says:
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      I got the magazine b/c I was in their mock draft that’s in the mag… With that said, people should stop doing magazines… You can’t publish something on baseball in January (written in November/December) and have it be accurate…

      • Aubrey Plaza's Pillow says:
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        @Grey: same goes for the football books that come out in may/june.

        • Grey

          Grey says:
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          Yeah, it’s nothing against them, but they just can’t produce something four months before the season and make it work

          • Aubrey Plaza's Pillow says:
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            @Grey: it’s just not possible.

  59. dem ribbies says:
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    Sup Grey?

    There is talk about Chris Davis getting some work in RF. If he gets those 5 starts would that change where you rank him? Davis with 1B/3B/OF eligibility would be pretty dope.

    • Grey

      Grey says:
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      Nah

  60. Beastman says:
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    I tried opening this comment with a thoughtful and meaningful take on the outrage against Grey’s take on Hamilton…but then the banner ads exploding with boobies distracted me.

    So instead, how’s giving $9 Hughes for $11 Sandoval in a $260, 16 team H2H with OBP and QS?

    Looking to shed some pitching since Yan Gomes is currently my only keeper on offense.

    • Grey

      Grey says:
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      Ha… I think the deal is fair, depends on needs

      • Beastman says:
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        @Grey: I hear ya. So close in rankings, think I’ll pull the trigger, still have a $13 Kluber to keep.

        • Grey

          Grey says:
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          Go for it!

  61. Sky

    Sky says:
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    Clearly your stance on social perception with regards to actions of the people are on full display today so the real question is: was the black llama a thug and the white llama just a misguided and troubled youth?

    • Beastman says:
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      @Sky: White llama is a good, decent camelid who needs some help finding his way, that’s all.

    • ashtray says:
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      @Sky: White llama was escaping the oppressive unconstitutionality of BIG GOVERNMENT. Keep running, patriot llama.

      • Beastman says:
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        @ashtray: Clearly too many immigrant llamas scared him off as well

    • Grey

      Grey says:
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      Can’t it be both?

      • Sky

        Sky says:
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        How many times have you been a troubled youth, Grey?

        • Grey

          Grey says:
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          Only once… When I was a youth

          • Sky

            Sky says:
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            Something tells me you were more of a rapscallion than that.

            • Grey

              Grey says:
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              Ha

  62. ashtray says:
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    Let he who is without sin throweth the first rock and I shall smoketh it.

    • Grey

      Grey says:
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      Haha

    • Aubrey Plaza's Pillow says:
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      @ashtray: good quote.

  63. Ghost Ride the WHIP says:
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    Grey, which side of this trade do you like better in a 12 team 6×6 OPS 6 player keeper league:
    My 11,12 rd picks (130 & 135 overall) for his Arenado, 14, 15 rd picks (160,177 overall).

    Currently keeping:
    adam jones, rizzo, desmond, dickerson, kemp and lester. Also, if i take the trade, drop lester?

    • Grey

      Grey says:
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      I’d take Arenado, sure lose Lester

  64. Tiny Tim says:
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    In a 10 team keeper league. 6×6 categories. Trying to figure out which way to go right now..

    Currently my hitters are: Pujols, Arenado, Hanley, A Jones, Bautista, Pederson (MILB Draft)

    Only pitcher I have so far is Zimmerman

    I’m coming up on Rd 7 (pick 7) and then Rd 8 (pick 4) with a few ideas in mind…
    1) Go with a pitcher. Gerrit Cole, Samardizja, Ross, Arrieta, Hamels, Cobb, Carrasco, Gray are all still available.
    2) Kolten Wong. Not sure how much farther he will drop and don’t like my chances at a 2B from here on out.
    3) CarGo & C Davis are still available. There’s another IF position to fill with 2 utility spots. Not sure if these two are worth the chance at this point, but Rd 7 or 8 seems nice for these guys.

    Not 100% sure, but Cole then Wong seems like a good idea. What’s your insight on this?

    • Grey

      Grey says:
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      You have a starter, I’d go with CarGo then Wong

  65. Nate says:
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    @ Grey
    In 15 Team League which counts R,HR, RBI, SB, Avg, OBP, Slg and QS, W, K, HD, SV, ERA, WHIP, which 10 would you keep?

    Jose Abreu (25th round)
    Marcus Stroman (12)
    Andrew Cashner (10)
    Yu Darvish (14)
    Hyun-Jin Ryu (8)
    Masahiro Tanaka (25)
    Michael Brantley (11)
    Zach Greinke (3)
    Ian Desmond (4)
    Alex Cobb (5)
    Adam Jones (2)
    Daniel Murphy (18)
    Oswaldo Arcia (17)
    Wilin Rosario (13)
    Zach Britton (24)
    Chris Davis (2)
    Denard Span (20)

    (Redundant rounds not an issue). Many thanks!

    • Grey

      Grey says:
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      Jose Abreu (25th round)
      Marcus Stroman (12)
      Yu Darvish (14)
      Masahiro Tanaka (25)
      Michael Brantley (11)
      Ian Desmond (4)
      Adam Jones (2)
      Daniel Murphy (18)
      Oswaldo Arcia (17)
      Britton

      • Nate says:
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        @Grey: Thanks!

        • Grey

          Grey says:
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          No problem

  66. MB says:
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    In a 15 team 5×5 roto league with 5 OF, which would you draft first? Eric Young, Zoilo or Eury Perez?

    • Grey

      Grey says:
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      Young

  67. GhostTownSteve says:
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    Average ADP for SPs in the top 50: 75
    Average ADP for Position players in the top 50: 112
    Average ADP for SPs in the top 51-150: 316
    Average ADP for Position players in the top 51-150: 199
    Average ADP for SP in the top 1-300: 306
    Average ADP for Position players in the top 1-300: 189

    Number of undrafted SPs in the top 100, 101-200, 201-300: 4, 12, 12
    Number of undrafted POS in the top 100, 101-200, 201-300: 6, 5, 7

    I used last year’s NFBC ADP vs the final results. Couple of interesting things here.

    Pitcher ADP correlates to top 50 performance much more than hitter ADP.

    There were 28 top 300 SPs that came from the undrafted tier as opposed to 18 POS players.

    There is a huge fall off in the correlation between ADP and performance outside the top 50. Much less so for position players outside the top 50.

    Outside the top 75 pitcher picks there’s very little correlation between SP success and ADP.

    You have a pretty close chance of picking up a top 150 hitter as a top 150 pitcher in season, but a much better chance of getting a top 300 SP than a top 300 hitter.

    So what all this tells me is:

    Get an ace
    Spend the next 13 picks taking hitters and avoid the sp 2-5 category as much as possible.
    Be very attentive early season to trying to churn through pos players to try and hit on one of those top 200 offense options.

    and the part I didn’t bother to detail here…don’t draft any relievers outside the top 5. Useless picks. The top 5 relievers are a debate for another day.

    • Grey

      Grey says:
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      But what about the fact that you don’t draft hitters, you draft a 1B, 2B, SS, etc? But you just draft a pitcher.

      • GhostTownSteve says:
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        @Grey:

        I feel like early on in the draft with your hitters you’re looking for production and it’s not entirely critical which position you’re filling. If you’re going to be taking a lot of hitters in the 3-15 round section of the draft you can manage your way through roster construction.

        I think one of the main takeaways here is that the SP2-4 range especially are very unpredictable and represent the worst profit potential of the player groupings on average. Not to say you can’t hit on your ace after the top tier but…the hitter you’re drafting in lieu of your ace on average has a lesser chance of being a top 50 overall performer and your chance s of hitting on an ace from the lower tiers are slight. Of course if you get an SP1 out of an SP2 or SP3 draft slot, yeah obviously that’s better, but you’re hoping to beat the odds if you that’s your plan.,

        • Grey

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          What if you don’t need a SP1, what if you only need three SP3s?

          • GhostTownSteve says:
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            @Grey:

            The point is that you’re much more likely to get SP3 cubed by drafting SP1 and SP5 squared.

            • Grey

              Grey says:
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              It could be confirmation bias but when I see year after year of thinking about pitchers 2nd and hitters first and still having a decent pitching staff… Did you see my NL-Only team yesterday? That was a deep league, I didn’t buy an ace, that staff isn’t good?

              • GhostTownSteve says:
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                @Grey:

                You did great in that league. I really liked that team. Auction is a different animal. In draft leagues you are FORCED to take high $ players because you are slotted. In auction you have the option of taking no high “draft picks.” So why not take a pitcher with a high ADP to performance correlation instead of a player with a lower correlation?

                And I haven’t even mentioned the other consideration which is the widening difference in value between top pitchers and all other tiers versus the diminishing variance between hitters across all tiers.

                • Grey

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                  Thanks! That is true, auction is a different animal, fair point… But I still didn’t take a pitcher that would be considered an ace…

                  I don’t believe in taking a pitcher with a high ADP because I believe I can get a pitching staff that’s solid without it, where I worry about my hitting by missing one in the first few rounds… You know why, it’s what you were doing every year up until this year. Emoticon.

                • Grey

                  Grey says:
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                  I will say that in NFBC I want better pitchers than RCL…Did you get in one of those Razzball NFBC leagues?

                  • GhostTownSteve says:
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                    @Grey:

                    No. I’ve already got $3300 invested in the NFBC leagues with big prizes. 100k, 75k and 20K for the overall. Sharing one league with the great Magoo again. I’ll be in Vegas the 27th and 28th. You got to get out there for the live NFBC, Albright. It’s the WS of fantasy.

                    • Grey

                      Grey says:
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                      Gotcha… Yeah, I’d like to get out there for it, seriously would… Maybe one of these years… The deal with Rudy is if one of us wins one of these 12 team leagues, we parlay $ to a Vegas big pay-in

                    • GhostTownSteve says:
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                      @GhostTownSteve:

                      If you want to come out in March I’ll sell you a % of one of my teams and co-manage with you.

                    • Grey

                      Grey says:
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                      Damn, that’s enticing… I’m not going to say no yet, but it might be hard to swing…

                    • GhostTownSteve says:
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                      @GhostTownSteve:

                      March 28th 10 am. I’ll sell you 10% of my main. 180 bucks for a shot at ten large. And we can shoot some craps after.

    • Sky

      Sky says:
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      Here are some issues I’ve had with this breakdown you’ve presented overall and they’ll probably parrot some others that you’ve heard. I see what you’re doing and appreciate it but these are the gripes.

      1) NFBC Data: Is this 15 team vs 12 team? What size are the rosters? If you are talking apples to apples here (i.e., your argument only stands regarding how to work an NFBC team) then I take this back. But for me when I read these, you seem open to applying this to multiple league settings. I think it’s a plausible strategy in RCLs but on the same token I don’t think it’s an absolute one and by far not really the best one given how many good arms can be had in your player pool on any given day, even in a competitive league. Don’t worry, I know that wasn’t your entire stance and I’ll get to that in number…

      2) The correlation between ADP and pitching works for big leagues but doesn’t work for smaller ones and I’ve hashed this with you before. Getting Jake Arrieta for 4 months of the year was basically getting 66% of Strasburg. This goes back to #2 for me: NFBC, you can’t pick these guys up so the stance of safety makes sense. It doesn’t apply to many leagues outside that, though. But really my biggest issue with all of this is number…

      3) 2014: That’s one year of data. Maybe you’ve done this over the course of say three to five years and I’ve missed it but I constantly see reference to 2014 as the standing point. Every market fluctuates and buying on what happened in just one year usually springs towards recency bias and veers away from actual analysis. Buying the trend is what gets markets into a bad place most times. Just ask 2005-7 home buyers. Again, if this is in conjunction with 3-5 year plots of data, then I apologize because I’ve missed that.

      In the end, you’re really preaching safety. It works for NFBC, safety can do more harm than good in a standard size league.

      • GhostTownSteve says:
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        @Sky:

        Fair comments and well taken. NFBC and RCL really couldn’t be more different. However there is still some applicability to both leagues.

        First, regardless of league, you want production. If a pitcher is going to give you top 50 value, that is deflated in shallower leagues because replacement value is higher for pitchers and streaming is available. Regardless of settings I think you benefit from having high production players than non-productive and top pitchers have had higher ADP to end of season correlation than any other grouping. Rudy has shown this. Mike Gianella has shown this. My data shows this. Year over year, top 8 ADP starters are a good buy. And in fact, Rudy’s breakdown this year suggested you weren’t bad off taking Kershaw in the RCL last year. In practical terms, a dominant ace in RCL reduces your dependence on SP streaming which allows you more leeway in your ability to stream position players. It also arbitrages the market inefficiency in RCL where SP streaming is ubiquitous. The potential productive player pool for streaming in the RCL is much larger than the SP pool, especially in competitive leagues.

        Again, you need to go back to the premise that the player you’re going to take in lieu of an ace is going to be significantly more productive than the player you take later. Yes, if that player is going to perform to draft slot AND you feel that you’re the one who will win the Jake Arrieta lottery then by all means go that way. But the probability is not in your favor.

        When I started the streaming trend in RCL I was the only one doing it in my leagues. I finiished like 5th and 22nd overall in back to back years. But the market has shifted. My gut tells me that some SP stability and playing the odds on reliability has merit this year.

        • Sky

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          Trust me, my stance isn’t that early pitching can’t work and would never argue that as the case. To be fair and to headway this, I did break down pitching by month over the course of the off-season from 2014. I see the practicality of both sides and I think that’s where I have a hard time biting on this: the stats from last year told me there’s viability in both. Your stance makes it sound like a bit more of an imperative and I don’t see the stats for an RCL agreeing with you given how many arms finished top 40 SP who – if given same pace and 5 to 7 more starts – finish close to guys like Greinke/Stras/Zimmermann. I know you’re not calling them aces but considering those guys are floating at or around top 10 arms in 2014, the statement still stands that on a per start basis, the valuation of an arm like McHugh or Carrasco or Arrieta isn’t appropriately reflected by ADP and the affect on your team can be just as powerful.

          So here’s the dilemma in my eyes and I say this because I see this in every draft where a guy buys an ace early: when do you start drafting them again in this set up? How do you approach the rest of your pitching staff? The draft I was in with other writers in February really showed me that people get too comfortable with an ace arm and build poorly around it. I’m not just saying it from that league alone but from general experience. I see people aim for high floor rather than high ceiling late in those situations which can work out, but I see it fall flat more often than not. How do you work the rest of your draft if, say, you took Max Scherzer?

          • GhostTownSteve says:
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            @Sky:

            I think the reason I put it in more imperative terms is not because all styles can’t succeed in small sample sizes. I think I say it that way because what we want to search for is what strategy gives you the highest probability in large sample sizes year over year?

            And we argue on the same side on this. I’m saying there is huge value in the SP pool after the first few rounds. Much more than in the player pool. What I’m saying is that for the very, very early rounds, the top SPs are statistically a better risk investment. What’s the problem with having McHugh and Scherzer? I argue that it’s imperative that you have both. What I’m really saying is that the data suggests that you’re best off with an ace and late pitching coming out of the draft. It’s the SP2-4 tier that consistently shits the bed. So I’m really just saying, trade that late 2nd-4th hitter for Sale, Kluber, Price et al and you’re better off.

  68. And Now the John Lovitz Dancers! says:
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    keepers came out, 16 team h2h dynasty, turns out i had traded my first pick (7th round, 1st round after keepers) to get upton last year. Then after that i went from 12th to winning consolation place (7th) netting me the first pick, which now makes it the worst pick i could have since it’s no longer mine. C/1B/2B/ss/3B/3 OF/2 util, 2 SP/1 RP/ 5 P, 5 BN. holds/QS/hits/OPS 7X7.
    So after keepers i won’t draft till pick 32/33 (at which point we’ll be 127 players deep). My keepers were upton/soler/ozuna/arenado/goldy/cobb so i have a solid base. Many pitchers were kept, including 8 top closers. So i don’t pick for a while and then pick twice in a row. 29 SP were kept. War room says i’m weak at steals so i’ll need to make sure to get 2B/SS positions and at least one util heavy in steals. Two concerns
    1. Best pitchers not kept are Shark/Carrasco/Arrieta/Cole/Ross/Latos/Wheeler/Hughes/Fiers/Degrom. I expect no small amount of these gone when it gets to me at 32.
    I know Cobb not considered an ace for 12 teamers, but is he good enough to be considered one for 16 teamers?
    2. Hitters i’ll likely need to grab at least one of (likely if one of these don’t steal i shouldn’t grab him) wong/d.santana/rusney/dozier/alex ram/c.davis/longo/gardner/segura/andrus.
    Plan is to grab one of these hitters at 32/33 and either 1 SP or a closer, since i won’t draft again till 164/165. Better to lock up closer/hitter or 2nd SP/hitter? I would think none of those SP pitchers are around at 164/165, but i haven’t done enough yahoo mocks to be sure of that.

    • Grey

      Grey says:
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      1. Yup 2. 2nd SP/hitter

      • And Now the John Lovitz Dancers! says:
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        @Grey: ok, so if this is true, i’ll likely start year with either 1 solid closer and a really crappy one, or 2 medium ones at best. Good news is since razzball and effort, i’m often ahead of leaguemates to these. Picks that far away from each other probably preclude me getting 2 closers, which would be optimal. Gotta hope i get at least a perkins type for my 1 better closer.

        • Grey

          Grey says:
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          Yup

  69. Prezii says:
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    Cocaine is a helluva drug…

    -rick james

    • Grey

      Grey says:
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      That reminds me, I kinda want to be Rick James for Halloween one year

      • Prezii says:
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        @Grey: get some stilts and a fro and youll be good to go.. You have to stomp rudys couch out tho! Fuck yo couch!!

        • Grey

          Grey says:
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          Haha… I could brush off my Disco Stu fishbowl shoes…

          • Prezii says:
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            @Grey: youve definitely thought about this before!

            • Grey

              Grey says:
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              *coy* ….Maybe

  70. Anthony says:
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    Grey please keep your California left wing, white hating politics out of your writing. Hamiliton is getting plenty of scorn as well as the sympathy and how could you possibly insinuate certain coverage is based because of a race. I know you’ve probably been brain washed in that state of loons, I love your writing and your website, but what you said is ridiculous. You sound like a race baiter like Sharpton and his pals. I don’t feel a bit sorry for him either but race has nothing to do with any part of this issue.

    • Grey

      Grey says:
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      It is totally possible I’m more crackers than most, I’ll give you that…

      • Anthony says:
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        I don’t want to get into a race debate, but what you said had to rub a bunch of your followers the wrong way. If people aren’t critical enough to a white person who has done wrong, liberals say things like you did about Hamilton. If people are overly critical of a black person, they are called racists by the same liberals. Racism surely still exists against all races, but now more than ever, it’s over used and becomes an excuse to explain some peoples circumstances.

        Just a minor example, I’ve been voting for presidents and have held political opinions since 1996. When I criticized President Clinton on his policies, I was considered an American with an opinion. When I criticized President Bush on his policies, I was considered an American with an opinion. When I criticize President Obama on his policies, I am considered and called a racist by many. It’s wrong on so many levels but this is what our society of race baiters are like today.

        The way you injected race into the Hamilton situation was destructive and wrong and I hope you recognize that. I understand that we all have our opinions, but when you run a blog that is followed by a diverse group of people and inject race when there are no facts to back your claim, other than your political ideology, people will be upset. I still love you thought bud!

        • Grey

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          That’s a shame that people call you racist for questioning Obama, I would hope he’d think it was a shame too… I just noticed the majority of the articles I read on Hamilton have been kid-gloved and the majority of his coverage his entire career has been that way. Like he was Superman then he was hit by Kryponite and he will be Superman again… His coverage rubbed me the wrong way and it has for years…

          • MGM says:
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            I haven’t liked Hamilton ever since he blamed his 3B coach for getting thrown out @ home. As for race….has anyone heard about Dez Bryant laying hands on his own mother? It’s worth a Google.

            • The Harrow says:
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              @MGM: what does this have to do with Grey or anybody at Razzball? “When I criticized President Clinton on his policies, I was considered an American with an opinion. When I criticized President Bush on his policies, I was considered an American with an opinion. When I criticize President Obama on his policies, I am considered and called a racist by many.” Idiots are idiots, and often find ways to be stupid, and very many of them say things like that (the people saying you’re racist for questioning somebody who is black). And just what does noticing/making fun of a discrepancy with Hamilton/other races have to do with Grey showing “white hating politics”? Be critical everywhere all the time, not just when other people wrongly criticize you.

  71. Anthony says:
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    Yup, it’s rather sad when you can’t disagree with the Prez without being called a racist, but that’s where we are as a society these days. The word is thrown around without a fact to back it. I understand what you’re saying about your thoughts of Hamilton’s coverage over the years, the media falls in love with certain athletes and always paints them as a Picasso. But they’ve done that with both white and black athletes. They’ve also destroyed all races of athletes as well, like Lance Armstrong, Darryl Strawberry, Roger Clemens, Ryan Leaf, Dwight Gooden, Arod, John Daley, Steve Howe, and many more. I don’t mean to carry on, and I’m not trying to give you a hard time Grey, so I’ll end by saying that I get that you’ve never understood or liked Hamilton’s rosy coverage over the years, but I still don’t understand how his race became the lead story to you.

    • Grey

      Grey says:
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      Gotcha, no problem

  72. I find it amazing that some people feel as though they have the right to come here and tell what you can and cannot write about on your own blog.

    • Anthony says:
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      As I stated earlier, Grey is the author of this blog and has a large base of supporters from many different diverse corners. When he makes such a provocative claim inducing race, when there’s no factual proof of such, it becomes a polarizing statement. It’s an idology that some share and others don’t. Most people would agree that’s it irresponsible to claim racism or inject race into this story. There’s nothing to prove that anywhere. It’s fine to have an opinion but when it comes to such a topic as serious as race relations, you should have some facts to back your assertion. Just as I said in my Obama example, I’ve been told I’m a racist just because I criticize or disagree with him, but it was fine when I did the same to our white presidents. It’s the far left ideology that some share and It wasn’t appropriate in this story. I had a fine conversation with Grey, and as he stated in a comment earlier today, he welcomes all his fans and followers to engage in the message boards, as I am.

      • Kid A says:
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        @Anthony:

        I think when people call you “racist” for criticizing Obama it’s just them using it as a codeword for “asshole”.

        I promise to never call you a racist.

        • Anthony says:
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          Haha, you’re one of the mindless sheep bro! See, when you have intelligence you can communicate and hold educated conversations with others, like I have with Grey today, and share thoughts. One the other hand there are classic clowns like you, uneducated, working grave at the local Shell and the late shift at Walmart, relying on public transportation, looking to your Betta fish and ferret for companionship and beating off to shemale porn. Ahhh, but your sense of self worth still comes! Trolling on Razzball! Congrats, you’ve made it!!

          • Kid A says:
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            @Anthony:

            Thanks for this shining example of intelligent and educated sharing.

            You’re a human Pez dispenser of enlightened thoughts.

        • SteveNZ says:
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          @Kid A: Seems odd that someone so ‘educated’ and ‘intelligent’ should need to resort to such clumsy personal insults.

          • Anthony says:
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            I take offense to my insults being labeled “clumsy”.

            • SteveNZ says:
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              @Anthony: Talking about you, not to you.

              • J-FOH says:
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                @SteveNZ: am I missing something here? I was reading this as satire.

            • Kid A says:
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              @Anthony:

              You spent all day trying to be Mr. Rational – and with one gentle nudge – you unraveled like a ball of bile-soaked twine.

          • J-FOH says:
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            @SteveNZ: I thought kid was smart *mental glass shattered*

    • Grey

      Grey says:
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      We’re dialoguing! (That’s what the kids call it. Kids in Malaysia, I believe.)

      • J-FOH says:
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        @Grey: is this a bad time to bring up my preference of Latin women or does that make me sexual racist?

    • @Wake Up: Come on, Wake Up. 1. Everybody has the “right” to speak up. That “right” is free speech. 2. He didn’t say what Grey “can and cannot write about.” He disagreed with WHAT Grey wrote.

      • @Fanthead: Maybe you should do some rereading, that’s exactly what was suggested. Speaking up and disagreeing is a world away from feeling entitled to the point where you feel comfortable enough to tell a writer what they should and should not be writing about (which is what I said previously) . Does free speech include the writer?

    • The Harrow says:
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      @Wake Up: because of this is why people feel they should/can do that:”that’s where we are as a society these days”, summed up himself in the same “sad” thing he was worried about.

  73. Jay says:
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    auto drafter in RCL just drafted this staff:
    P Adam Wainwright, StL SP DTDBreaking News Draft
    P Yu Darvish, Tex SPBreaking News and Video Draft
    P Gio Gonzalez, Wsh SP Draft
    P Jonathan Papelbon, Phi RP Draft
    P Matt Cain, SF SP DTDBreaking News Draft
    P Scott Kazmir, Oak SP Draft
    P Justin Verlander, Det SP Draft
    P R.A. Dickey, Tor SP Draft
    P Kevin Gausman, Bal SP Draft
    Bench Shelby Miller, Atl SP Draft
    Bench Danny Duffy, KC SP Draft

    • Grey

      Grey says:
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      Nice

      • Jay says:
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        @Grey: he’s gonna be pissed in the morning!

  74. Jay says:
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    Don’t worry, Hamilton will land on his feet. he’ll come out claiming he detoxed by drinking a shitton of holy water, The church will a boat load of money after they realize they can slap hamilton’s mug on a bottle and fill it with some blessed tap water mixed with holy horseshit or something and sell it for $5 a bottle in fundraiser for “new construction” and “renovations”.

    you’re absolutely right on this. f da naysayners! fight the man! Save the Empire!

    • Grey

      Grey says:
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      Ha, thanks!

  75. I am Stanton says:
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    Not sure if any of the comments already posted about this (Stop reading after the first post about the dress) Michael Saunders injury update… He should rejoin Blue Jays by Mid April instead of around All-Star break. How would this change you rankings?

    PS the only time a guy should care this much about a dress, is if its gonna make it to the floor in his bedroom

    • I think Saunders isn’t worth drafting until end rounds in shallow leagues. This can’t help his SBs.

    • Grey

      Grey says:
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      I don’t buy it on Saunders yet, so I’m not changing my rankings again yet

      • I am Stanton says:
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        @Grey: Jays signed Dayan Viciedo should be everyday starter in LF

        • Grey

          Grey says:
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          For April

  76. Guidedbyvoices says:
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    Grey….at first,as an addict who has struggled for yrs,I was initially kinda pissed about your take on this….until I read all the way through and also thought it through and realized….yr 100pcr right.why doesn’t he get the “spoiled rich athlete throwing away his opportunity” treatment?

    Addicts are all different and all respond/react differently to failure and success….so while i still empathize with him,I agree that the rules of compassion seem to be written ön a case by case basis,often determined by the degree of appeal to the most “wholesome”among us.

    • Grey

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      Well said, thanks for chiming in

  77. Oppo Taco says:
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    I have the 3rd pick in the upcoming keeper draft. its 5×5 roto. can you rank these guys in order of priority in where they fit on my team? One or two may be drafted so I’d like to have a little break down, thanks! Best players available : Kimbrel, Myers, Soler, Cobb, Yelich, Betts

    My keepers : cutch, goldy, joey bats, j up, hanley, rizzo, madbum, cole

    Im thinking of going with one of Kimbrel, Cobb or Myers.

    Thanks!

    • Grey

      Grey says:
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      How many teams matters… Kimbrel, Cobb, Myers works for me

      • Oppo taco says:
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        @Grey: it’s a 12 teamer. But I don’t have a second round pick so I’m looking at 30ish picks between my next pick after this first round.

        • Grey

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          I’d go with those three

  78. farcus says:
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    your greyness,

    in a h2h points league i have keeper questions they “cost” the draft pick of the round they were drafted in last year.

    I have to keep one of these:

    Pujols – rd 2
    Greinke – rd 3
    Cobb – rd 4
    Samardzija – rd 5

    AND I have to keep 4 of these:

    Chris Davis – rd 6
    Justin Upton – rd 9
    Yelich – rd 10
    Arenado – rd 13
    Bautista – rd 20
    Carlos Gonzalez – rd 22

    keepers can be kept at the same cost infinitely. What would you do?

    • Grey

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      Pujols, Upton, Arenado, Bautista, CarGo

  79. JJ says:
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    Hey grey,
    12 team H2H 5X5 keeper league(we keep 10).
    I could use some more starting pitching depth and/or another closer. I could use a backup 2b in case BAEZ flops. A solid bench bat is needed too. Maybe a little more speed?
    Who would you grab here?
    Best available bats
    A.GARCIA
    O.ARCIA
    A.EATON
    K.DAVIS
    J.MORNEAU
    S.PEARCE
    N.CASTELLANOS
    J.GYORKO
    P.ALVAREZ

    Best available SP are
    N.EOVALDI
    E.SANTANA
    S.MILLER
    C.MARTINEZ
    J.PEAVY
    S.GREENE
    J.LACKEY
    B.CECIL is still out there as well

    C-C.SANTANA(1B/3B)
    1B-E.HOSMER
    2B-J.BAEZ(SS)
    3B-T.FRAZIER(1B)
    SS-H.RAMIREZ
    OF-M.KEMP
    OF-K.CALHOUN
    OF-Y.TOMAS(3B)
    UTIL-M.TRUMBO
    UTIL-AJ.POLLOCK
    BENCH-M.SANO(SS/3B)

    SP-M.BUMGARNER
    SP-C.KLUBER
    SP-C.HAMELS
    RP-A.CHAPMAN
    RP-H.RONDON
    P-G.COLE
    P-D.SMYLY
    P-D.SALAZAR
    P-J.FERNANDEZ(DL)

    Thanks again

    • Grey

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      Cecil

  80. Matt says:
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    I have

    Perez, Norris at C
    Edwin, Abreu, Ortiz for 1B, CI, UT
    Howie at 2B
    Rollins Starlin at SS
    A Gordon, Moss, Revere, Pagan, Rios, T Hunter at OF
    Ryan Flaherty for IF bench

    In 5×5 roto 15 team CBS roster dynasty, will eric young have enough value to be worth rostering in a league like this?

    Thanks

    • Grey

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      Probably

  81. I love You Wong Time says:
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    Hey Grey,
    Need to decide if I’m going to forego my MiLB draft and hold these guys. Would you drop any of these guys and roll the dice on the draft or hold and keep them on my farm?

    Travis D’Arnaud – C
    Danny Hultzen – SP – Mariners
    Jackie Bradley – Bos
    Michael A Taylor OF – WAS

    • Grey

      Grey says:
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      Depends who will be available

      • I love You Wong Time says:
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        @Grey:
        Wish i could answer that…really any new up and coming prospects, Cubans and guys drafted this year. Essentially take baseball America’s top 2015 guys, scrap 2/3’s of them and thats our draft.

        • Grey

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          I’d lose Bradley for either of Rusney or Yasmany

  82. OtisNixonLovedRaines'Rocks says:
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    What up @grey
    It’s your kosher cousin

    “Quick” dynasty league question.
    I will spare you my usual pun heavy humor….hey….on that note……Big Pun<Big Papi?
    Lng poopy story shorty I took over a #$%^ show of a dynasty team and I have Felix on my team at $40

    Budget is essentially $290 for roster players
    Rotisserie 6×6 (OPS and quality starts)
    I am keeping Rizzo-$15, Puig-$10, Odor-$1, Wong-$10
    Then I am keeping some rosterable guys just to take space like Garret jones/Juan Lagares/Moreland/Van Slizzy et al….
    I have Felix at $40 Collmenter at $1

    Essentially with a starting roster of 14 offensive guys and a forced 7 SP on my starting roster is Felix worth $40?

    Or do I just let him flush back into the pool with Clayton and try my luck(I hate not knowing these guys bidding habits being so new)

    Thanks for trying to understand my questuon as usual @grey

    I confuse myself…so hot it's schmaltz

    Kershaw is avail to draft

    • Grey

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      What’s up, Kosher cousin? He’s not worth $40

  83. Regan says:
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    Did my first draft at Yahoo. It’s almost too easy using your rankings. Can’t believe the value for hitters late in the draft. Ended up drafting 4 bench bats. I know you preach not to draft bench bats who else would i put there? Got 4 SP, 3 closers and 2 stud set up men. Plan to stream the 5th pitcher spot. Suppose i could have drafted one more SP but i like having the sleepers on the bench. I always try to draft my team using the draft differencials between your rankings and Yahoo rankings. Tell me what you think of this team. Thanks!

    C Travis d’Arnaud
    1B José Abreu
    2nd Anthony Rendon
    3rd Kyle Seager
    SS Alexei Ramirez
    OF Justin Upton
    OF Corey Dickerson
    OF Marcell Ozuna
    Util Chris Davis
    Util Leonys Martín
    BN Xander Bogaerts Bos – 3B,SS
    BN Yasmani Tomás Ari – 3B,OF
    BN Wil Myers SD – OF
    BN Avisail García CWS – OF

    SP Hisashi Iwakuma Sea –
    SP Jeff Samardzija CWS –
    RP Huston Street LAA –
    RP Fernando Rodney Sea –
    P Zack Wheeler NYM – SP
    P Mike Fiers Mil – SP
    P Wade Davis KC – RP
    P LaTroy Hawkins Col –
    BN Brad Boxberger TB

    • Grey

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      If you’re gonna stream, you’re gonna drop bench bats anyway… That team is crazy good, assuming it’s a 12 team or shallower…

  84. FrankGrimes says:
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    glad I missed the brouhaha yesterday.
    damn peeps be sensitive

    • Kid A says:
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      @FrankGrimes:

      Why would you ever want to miss a brouhaha?!

      We can probably fire this bitch back up, no problem. Just say the word.

      and…

      GRIMEY!

      • Cheese Eating Surrender Monkey says:
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        @Kid A: i like how he “knew” all about yr life. Grey spews “white hating politics” from pointing out discrepancies in hamilton/different race groups, but when using public transport is somehow construed as in insult he’s somehow not guilty of insane babling racism himself.

    • Grey

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      Grimey! Got the vape, you’re the best, thanks bro!

  85. TheMuppetManiac says:
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    My keeper draft is tomorrow. I decided to keep Adam Jones, Jose Bautista, Jake Arrieta (since I get him in the llast round) and Victor Martinez (I’m getting him in the 14th round, so I think he’s worth the risk. The leauge also counts walks and Ks, so he can be useful.)

    I’m thinking of taking Pujlos with my first pick. I don’t want to take a pitcher with my first pick, like Greinke or Zimmermann. I’ll probably have to pick between Puljos, Pence, Carlos Gonzalez, Braun or Longoria. I think Pujlos is my best bet. It locks me up at 1st. And then I’ll go for a 3B with my next pick.

    • TheMuppetManiac says:
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      @TheMuppetManiac:
      I’m also keeping Jose Altuve.

    • Grey

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      Sounds good

  86. Bennythejet says:
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    5×5 weekly league
    Which set of 3 players is the best option

    1) Kershaw and Cano/Tulo and Upton/Harper…or
    2) M. Cabrera and Upton/Harper and Straburg/Price…or
    3) McCutchen and Upton/Harper/Tulo and Straburg/Price

    • Grey

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      3

  87. kyle says:
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    Need help

    Keeper League
    Budget: $326
    7 keepers 1 NA

    My players and their costs:
    Cole $6
    Cobb $11
    Smardjza $18
    Gio $21
    Lirano $12
    Stroman $1
    Miller $11
    Keuchel $1
    Volquez $1
    (NA) Lucas gilioto $1

    Goldy $40
    Kinsler $35
    Arenado $1
    Yelich $6
    Heyward $17
    Werth $1
    Machado $11
    Polanco $1
    Bogaerts $6
    Ramos $15
    (NA) Addison Russell $1
    Vargas $1
    Alcantra $1

    Obviously Arenado & Goldy… but who else?

    • Grey

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      Those two and Cole, Yelich, Heyward, Bogaerts, Polanco, though no idea how many teams

  88. That One Guy says:
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    Hey Grey, finishing up a 10 team H2H 6×6 league draft. Were about to enter the 16th round. Still have yet to nab a catcher. One utility spot left. Here is how my team is shaking out. Looking for advice for players or ideas on how to finish this team.

    C- (empty) (I’m looking at Zunino or Arnaud here)
    1B – Pujols
    2B – Wong
    3B – Arenado
    SS – HRam
    IF – Chris Davis
    OF – Adam Jones
    OF – Jose Bautista
    OF – Wil Myers
    Util – Hosmer
    Util – (empty)
    BN – Pederson
    (3 more bench spots here)

    SP – Zimmerman
    SP – G Cole
    SP – A Wood
    SP – Cashner
    RP – Cody Allen
    RP – Storen
    3 pitcher slots available as well

    Thanks for any help!

    • Grey

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      You should grab a few more SPs next, you don’t have to grab a catcher to the very end in a 10 team league…

      • That One Guy says:
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        @Grey:

        I went Pineda and now I’m looking at Avisail, Hahn, Miller, Walker, Fiers because I get more excited about the upside than I did when I realized your mustache popped in to respond to some posts this mornin (but not by much)…

        • Grey

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          Nice, that’s solid… Go Fiers

  89. goodfold2 says:
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    hey Grey, do you know if that middle man money holder site SportsVault that Razzball used to be sponsored by is still existent and safe? I want to ask around before i decide on this one over LeagueSafe, as leaguesafe is well known, but SportsVault has no rake (so you lose no money either going in or out)

    • Grey

      Grey says:
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      I wouldn’t use Sportsvault

      • Grey

        Grey says:
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        They don’t reply to emails…

      • Grey

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        Oh, I see they were bought… There’s your answer…

        • goodfold2 says:
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          @Grey: that’s why i asked, since they didn’t respond to emails. Are you saying they are currently not in use since they just got bought?

          • goodfold2 says:
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            @goodfold2: when’s the last time you remember that they were valid? I’m guessing during when Nick used to mention them as a sponsor, so no earlier than Nov 28th or so they may have still worked.

            • Grey

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              I have no idea, likely last year… Leaguesafe owns them now so you can contact Leaguesafe if you have an issue

  90. Tony says:
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    Hate posting here BUT my RCL needs a few owner ($75 buy in using league safe) & my long time running (12-13 years?) h2h league needs one more owner ($100 buy in, using league safe again)

    If interested in either or both email me at [email protected] yahoo.com

    TONY

  91. Bennythejet says:
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    Would MIguel Cabrera be higher in your rankings if he were 3rd base eligible? If so, where would he move to?

    • Grey

      Grey says:
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      He wouldn’t move

  92. Jay says:
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    Not sure if my pitching will be goid enough unless I catch some breaks. My first RCL, Is this staff good enough (I’m thinking a lot of in srason tweaks, I’ll have to be on top waivers)
    Kimbrel arrieta tanaka (oops, this was an f up) storen Rodney McCarthy rondon pineda Paxton shoemaker. Greene Carlos Martinez.

    Offense should be ok. Not in love with my OF though
    M. Montero. Muggy rendon Arenado. Alexii Ramirez dannys Antana Frazier pence Hayward pollock Cain Byrd Headley

    Thoughts?

    • Grey

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      I don’t love Tanaka, but the staff looks fine… Hitting looks very solid, I like the team

      • Jay says:
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        @Grey: @Grey: I picked ninth. I messed up on the tanaka pick for sure. Well see how he fares. If he goes the first wsinwright route I’ll be fine if he Matt Harvey’s it I’ll have an extra streamer spot and be hoping others take a step forward.

        • Grey

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          Yup

  93. And Now the John Lovitz Dancers! says:
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    first draft of the year done. 6 keepers OPS/hits/holds/QS 7X7 yahoo H2H 16 team league. I’ll list my keepers as if i drafted them in first 6 rounds, since their ADP’s actually do work with this. I traded the first pick after keepers (7th round) for upton and 19th round last year. Doing this made me miss Wong/Arrieta/Shark by less than 6 picks each, which sucked. i was planning on grabbing wong and one of the SP. I completely punted 2B after this, as no 2B looked worth their ADP after that, and was pretty sure (certain, the way i played it) i was getting jose ram at end. Could’ve went Odor or Owings a few rounds earlier.
    C – zunino (321)
    1B – goldy (1)
    2B- jose ram (352)
    SS – alexi ram (128)
    3B – arenado (33)
    OF – upton (32)
    OF – soler (64)
    OF – ozuna (96)
    util – pollock (225, needed steals more, so went him over avisail…)
    util – avisail (252… and got him later anyway)
    BN – sano (291, he’ll get NA soon)
    SP- cobb (65)
    SP -carrasco (129)
    SP – liriano (151)
    SP – shoemaker (192)
    SP – hutchison (256)
    SP keuchel (289, fell way lower than you have him ranked)
    SP – heaney (320)
    RP – street (150)
    RP – mcgee (224)
    RP – cecil (257, this dude simply should not be here)
    RP -watson (288, also should not be here this late)
    RP -kelvin (353, went him over walden, yr player rater really doesn’t like walden)

    War room says i’m only at 116 out of 143 steals goal, but Rudy’s recent post says only 123 for 16 team yahoo’s with 10 starting hitters is fine. How’s it look?

    • Grey

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      I’d go with Rudy’s recent post on goals since it’s the most recent update… Team looks solid, hitting looks real nice, and the pitching actually looks better than hitting… The pitching looks more like a 12 team league

      • And Now the John Lovitz Dancers! says:
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        @Grey: some teams clearly went bench bat heavy, best bat that’s free agent (i’ll probably grab 1 BN bat when Sano gets NA’d) is plouffe.

        • Grey

          Grey says:
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          Gotcha

  94. fallex says:
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    Keeper / Trade question, I get to / have to keep 8 out of this (as essentially our first 8 picks, no limit to how long you can keep):
    -J.Upton, A.Jones, Kershaw, Kluber, K.Bryant
    -Kinsler, Reyes, A.Cobb
    -Braun, Latos, Votto, D.Wright, Lucroy, K.Vargas, etc. (a bunch of other shiz)

    So I had an offer I was really considering of Giancarlo for Kershaw. While I was pondertificating, he threw out Giancarlo/D.Gordon/DeGrom for Kershaw/Braun. I was planning on cutting bait on Braun anyway (the way I listed them above, was basically my keeper priority with Def, likely, not likely). I liked the idea of Gordon, because it basically makes Reyes expendable as two powerless guys are a deadend in this league. Also I would likely throwback Kinsler and keep DeGrom in the hope that last year was a turning point for him.

    New wrinkle: he is now willing to trade Cueto, after he shored up more pitching. So should I offer Kershaw/Braun for Stanton/Cueto? Then I would keep Kinsler rather than gamble on DeGrom. Though Cueto staying healthy/good is a gamble in itself, though your projections make it seem like less of a gamble.

    Any help is appreciated. Thanks!

    • Grey

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      I’d take the Giancarlo/Cueto for Kershaw/Braun

  95. Kyman says:
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    Strategy Question: In a league that limits you to 7 starts per week, do you move up high end pitchers in your rankings?

    My two keepers are Trout + Kershaw. Considering dangling Kershaw for a TOP 10 hitter.

    • Grey

      Grey says:
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      Yeah, I’d hold what you have

  96. Simone says:
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    The Hamilton post is restarted…Don’t go all crazy because you don’t get the disease they call addiction….food, sex, drugs, and however many more people have out there….Do you think a fatass 700 lb person wants to look like they do? I mean, people are fucked up…we all have issues..some more severe than others but we all have them…I don’t understand why people just come down on him like he’s garbage…he got his shit together from smoking crack in a trailer regularly by himself to winning an MVP award…is that not important? Is that not overcoming his addiction???? People who deal with this never get over it or are ever cured….you think about it everyday…and he had a setback…at least he admitted to it…he’s not alone using daily again…people forget I guess where he was…mlb needs to understand suspending him would be the worst thing for this disease he has to deal with for the rest of his life…from what I read about former coaches and teammates is that he is a great person and they come no better than him….so lay off of the relapse end of his career bullshit…this guy beat the odds by getting to where he is…and I he didn’t get to where he’s at by being a terrible person…he’s embarrassed and humiliated by this and would give all the money in the world if he could go through a single day without thinking about drugs…everybody has slumps and bumps in life with addiction or something else…don’t act like you never have…and as crazy as it seems, these multi millionaire freak athletes are flawed human beings just like everyone else

  97. Aubrey Plaza's Pillow says:
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    in that league where we draft 3 real life teams and get all their players (at this time, real life trades don’t affect us), i got CLE/CIN/NYY. I might be able to trade one of these for TOR, or CLE for WSOX. I have WSOX ranked slightly higher than CLE, and TOR higher than all of my teams (not at pitching though). Lot of extra categories like OPS/net steals/BB (for both hitters and pitchers)/IP/losses/holds/ K to BB/ Relief wins/relief losses/ net saves and holds.
    C – mesoraco
    C – mccann/gomes
    1B – moss
    1B – votto
    2B – kipnis
    2B –
    SS – jose ramirez
    MI –
    3B – frazier
    3B – c.santana
    LF – brantley
    CF – ellsbury
    RF – bruce
    OF – b.hamilton
    OF – gardner
    SP – cueto
    SP – pineda
    SP – kluber
    SP – carrasco
    SP – salazar
    SP – bailey
    RP -chapman
    RP -betances
    RP -allen
    RP -miller
    RP -shaw
    RP –
    RP –

    clearly i need to trade one catcher (gomes/mccann/mesoraco) since i’m very catcher-strong, along with maybe headley/bourn/chisenhall/swisher/tanaka for MI/2B upgrade, since i’m str up awful at those spots. Even worse, i’ll need a backup for kipnis, since he’s platooning right now.
    1. which 2 right now go at 2B/MI out of: phillips/drew/didi/cozart. jesus, that’s awful. Tanaka probably nets me some very good player at that spot. There’s gotta be teams weak at catcher also.
    2. which 2 of these best for last 2 RP spots: d.carpenter/warren/wilson/atchison/scrabble/j.diaz?
    we get 9 adds per week, of all players on our 3 rosters, so we stream our own pitchers (or at least i do).

  98. Reilljt0 says:
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    Hi Grey,
    Looking for some help on my keepers in a 14 team standard 5×5 roto. Each team starts with $260 prior to our auction draft and we can keep a maximum of three guys. Here are my options along with $$ required to keep them (Average of 2014 draft and 2015 projected value). Which 3 would you keep?

    -Adam Jones: $38.5
    -Eric Hosmer: $12.5
    -Kolten Wong: $5.5
    -Josh Donaldson: $22
    -Michael Brantley: $15
    -AJ Pollock: $1
    -Gregory Polanco: $1
    -Alex Wood: $8
    -Mike Fiers: $1

    Pick three! Thanks!

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