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This post is not meant to scream fire in the theater of Razzball.  I’m not saying don’t draft these guys.  I’m not unfriending them.  I would hide all of their stupid Mafia Wars updates.  I’m just saying you need to be aware of certain concerns that I’ve kept to myself about these players.  I’m unburdening myself.  My shrink says it’s good for me.  I still like these players; I just want you to have the whole picture.  Anyway, here’s some concerns for 2011 fantasy baseball:

Troy Tulowitzki – Concern:  Injury.  Sure, his previous injuries were of the fluky nature, but his 1st halfs make Te(i)x seem like a year-round performer.  In 2009, he hit .254 in the 1st half.  In 2008, he hit .166.  In 2010, he hit 18 homers in August and September.  A lot of you fantasy baseballers (<–my mom’s term!) who play in roto are thinking, “It’s cool, doode.  Just get me the stats.”  That’s you.  Yeah, but it’s not cool when you’re out of the running in August because your first round pick is hitting .260 with ten homers.  “You’re right.  Not cool, doode.”  That’s you again.

Yovani Gallardo – Concern: WHIP.  My concern here could also be stated with, “Has Grey fallen so in love with the K that he’s forgotten Gallardo’s career WHIP is 1.32.”  A 1.32 is pretty tough to own when he’s your number one starter.  I have Gallardo at a 1.24 WHIP in my projections.  That is very optimistic.  My gut is saying the Brewers are going to win their division and Gallardo is going to be a big part of that.  I think you need some limbs on your fantasy team in order to win a competitive league.  It’s just tough when one of those limbs comes with a high price tag.  If Gallardo throws a 1.32 WHIP and you don’t have the number two or three to balance him, you may want to kill me for having you select him as your number one.

Francisco Liriano – Concern: Health.  I try my best to stay level-headed about Spring Training news.  Hey, one of us has to.  I’m not crazy about shoulder problems, the news that he didn’t do his proper prep work in the offseason and that the Twins wanted to trade him.  You don’t want to trade someone who you have no concerns about.  So that makes two of us.

Ryan Howard – Concern:  Rudy.  Rudy and I disagree from time to time.  He loved Black Swan; I thought Portman was good.  I like the Cold War Kids; he thinks they sound like George Michael (though he says that’s not a complaint, which means we might have bigger issues).  We also disagree about Ryan Howard.  So far, he’s bit his lip about Ryan Howard and my ranking of him at 8th overall.  What’s going on behind the scenes is Rudy thinks I’m slightly crackers with a side order of nuts.  I usually trust Rudy’s judgment, but I refuse to believe Howard’s days of big-time production are behind him (though there is plenty of behind on him).  Rudy thinks Howard’s homers and RBIs aren’t as good as they used to be and he’s going to be just okay on runs and average.  He doesn’t think he should be as low as the 3rd round, but 8th overall drives him a bit crazy.  He has him as the 7th ranked 1B (Pujols, Votto, Miggy, A-Gon, Fielder, Te(i)x before him).  He has him for $23 in 12-team mixed league auctions.  I’d go to $30.  I think it’s only fair to fill all of you in, we’re in disagreement.

Robinson Cano – Concern:  Won’t be overrated.  Usually I can build up enough venom for even the nicest of players if I think they’re overrated.  I had a real hard time getting totally down on Cano.  His skill set tells me that he’s a 25-homer, .310 hitter.  That’s not bad, it’s just him in the first round is pushing the laws of good judgment.

Jason Heyward – Concern:  Sophomore slump.  Some gooftards just can’t get their act together in their second year.  Lots of great players come to mind, so don’t give me that ol’ “Heyward’s different” shizz.

  1. Steve says:

    Very interesting.

    I guess the opportunity never quite presented itself (more likely I forgot), but I was going to raise how far apart you and Rudy were on Howard (I saw his exchange with a commenter in one of the posts) – more than just the usual “the great thing about Razzball is that Grey and Rudy don’t always agree” difference of opinion. Any thoughts of revising your Howard ranking?

    Think you guys are also a bit at odds (though much less so) on Tulo, though for different reasons.

    Who are you most worried about? I’m guessing Liriano, cos the way he’s ranked, a lot of us (and you too, Grey) will end up with him as their #1 starter.

    (Lots of parentheses in this comment).

  2. Amigo Miguel says:

    Haha! Yes! There’s just nothing wrong with coming clean on this stuff. Not an exact science. I’m sure plenty of people will blame you when one of your suggestions doesn’t pan out perfectly. Just keep posting this funny shizz, and I’ll keep reading. THANKS AMIGO!

  3. ilikeike says:

    So here I am ready to make Heyward my third round pick, and Gallardo or Liriano my sixth or seventh rounder, based on what I’ve read here. And now.. major unsureness. sad face.

  4. emporersmonkey says:

    I think Howard is going to hit 45 HR with at least 120 RBI this year.

  5. famous anus says:


    i seem to have an irreversible hardon for brian roberts this year. maybe its the lineup, maybe it’s buck DTF showalter, maybe its the fact that i think my orioles may finally be a .500 team again this year. regardless, i know the concerns with him. i seem to be targeting seanrod as my 2b safety net in the 19th round or so. should i go with someone safer as a handcuff, or should i just stick with seanrod because all the boring safe guys will be on waivers in mid april anyway?

  6. How about Josh Johnson? His back and shoulder problems are scaring, more so now that I drafted him!

  7. Jeff says:

    Our league keeps 15 players and I’m keeping 5 SP’s – Lester, Ubaldo, Gallardo, Gio, and Hellickson.

    Should I be concerned about my WHIP? Should I think about trying to trade one of these guys for a low WHIP guy?

  8. Mets fan says:

    Grey would u still keep liriano over price?

  9. Tony says:

    @emporersmonkey: id take 40 and 100 and anything else is gravy…. I’m still a believer in Howard.

  10. 24hourjack says:

    Grey….I’m struggling over whether to make a certain move or not.It’s a 10 team H2H keeper league.I am stacked w/ SP and have no 3B.
    Anyway,I was targeting Yoooouk,and the guy who owns him says he’ll give him up for a top SP.

    here’s my ten keepers….I wouldnt give up F-Her straight up for Youk,but any reason not to give up either of the other three?

    J. Upton


  11. Corky Roboto says:

    Off-topic..but Grey, I want to know what you think of Will Venable. I’m sipping his Kool-Aid. Want some?

  12. NewBVick says:

    I’m siding with Rudy on the Howard issue. I have him as the 7th 1B behind all those you mentioned at $24. It’s not so much a slight on Howard as I think the others will just be that damn good. A regression from last years .276 is my exibit A for the upincoming year.

  13. Carns says:

    @emporersmonkey: I agree. I have seen him hit into the 3rd deck above right at The Bank. He doesn’t hit “barelies.” That type of power doesn’t go away overnight. He isn’t a spring chicken anymore but he isn’t ancient either. Unlike some fat-bodies, he is very conscious about his weight and usually comes in each spring looking pretty trim relative to his body type. He’s a lock for 40+ this year.

    @Jeff: I would stay put if I were you. Although some guys are just naturally low-control guys, I think a lot of the younger pitchers who haven’t necessarily been known for great WHIP (Gallardo, Gio) will develop some semblance of control as they mature. This is already becoming evident with those two. Let’s face it though, guys who strike out 9+/9 aren’t exactly painting the outside of the K zone, they are throwing filthy shizz. Take the good with the bad and hope the bad ain’t too bad….strikeouts are sexy

  14. Commish Cauda says:

    Deep mixed keeper league

    Rank these young, no-longer-prospect MLB arms

    Brandon Beachy, Yunesky Maya, Mark Rogers, Alex Sanabia

  15. Commish Cauda says:

    *Maya ‘aint young, but he is a recently graduate prospect…

  16. Commish Cauda says:

    Which of these yawnstiapting arms would you take a late flyer on in a deep mixed league?

    Hammel, Narveson, Volstad, Garland, Harang, Hochevar

  17. Recently found this site– thanks for the commentary, and you’re a snappy writer, too, which makes doing the research that much more fun.

    I have concerns about Gallardo, too– I owned him in 2009 and went back for more in 2010. September was his downfall in 2009 and when his August tanked in 2010 (2-2 7.75 1.63), I moved him. September 2010 was not terrible, 3-0 3.77 with a 1.29 WHIP, but I never regretted a second not having to hold my breath each time he started.

  18. GopherDay says:

    @Commish Cauda: I’d take Haraang for one simple reason: Hodgepadre.

  19. pogotheostrich says:

    Even if you have Howard as the 7th ranked 1B he shouldn’t be getting past the top 20 picks.

  20. famous anus says:

    @commich cauda – harang and narveson are a tier above the rest, imo. narveson figured it out in the 2nd half last year, and harang gets the petco advantage. assuming theyre on the radar, though, i couldn’t really fathom taking one of them over a beachy or a pineda unless it’s some bizzareo 16 team shallow bench roto league

  21. Frank Rizzo says:

    Wow. These are players I think twice about in mocks. I’m feeling the same concerns. I’ve been passing on Tulo in all mocks and taking Longoria or Votto ahead of him because it feels safer.

    Liriano and Gallardo are guys I’ve been picking as a #2, and when I do I’ve been getting boring/good whip guys like Lilly and Kuroda late in the draft. My #1 guy almost always ends up Kershaw, Lester, or Hamels….they feel safe to me as #1 guys and can still get me 200 K’s. And if Gallardo/Liriano end up my #1 SP off the board it means I’ve gone 5 rounds of offense and so after taking one of these 2 SP’s I will take Jared Weaver next, because it feels safe to me.

    Howard makes me hesitant too. I’ve been passing on him in Yahoo mocks for Teixiera quite frequently. Again, it feels safer to me.

    Cano is a 2B who can put up top 1B numbers. The only problem I have with taking him is that 1B falls off a cliff after Fielder IMO and 2B is deeper overall….I can put together a better overall lineup by skipping Cano for a 3B or a 1B in the 1st round. And I can get a solid 2B later in the draft. Not so with 1B or 3B. I feel the same pressure to have a solid 1B and 3B that Grey does this year. Not as much with 2B.

    Heyward could be great or he could do what Upton has done…..let you down. I don’t like that he’s slated to bat 7th in the lineup. You’re committing a top 3/4 round pick to this guy based solely on upside. I’ve been waiting a round and picking up J Bruce instead. Bruce feels to me like a post hype guy ready to explode. You can get him for a relative bargain in Yahoo and I like him as my 2nd or 3rd OF this year a lot.

    Thanks for the post Grey!

  22. mindicohn says:

    hells yes!!! Three of my keepers are on this list (Cano,Tulo and Liriano)…

  23. carlos marmLOL says:

    Starting to think all these Charlie Sheen quote team names I’m seeing are going to get real dire in August when he takes his life by his own hand. Cust kayin’.

  24. Frank Rizzo says:

    With hesitations on Liriano and Gallardo, is a pitcher pairings or pitching staff balance post in the works?

  25. KeeblerMN says:


    I have to have my keepers dropped by tomorrow night. It’s a 12 team H2H, 5×5, auction. We add $5 to players auction value from the previous year to keep them. Waiver wire players are considered $5 so they are $10 to keep. So here’s my questions, let me know who you think is worth it (24 roster spots, standard, c,1,2,3,ss,MI,CI,OFx5,U ,Px8,BN,BN,DL,DL and 1 Minor league spot. 24 total roster spots, $240 budget.
    I’m keeping Liriano for $9, Buchholtz for $9 and Marmol for $6.
    The other options I’m considering in order of appeal are:
    Lind $15
    Reyes $29
    Pagan $10
    Fowler $7
    Valencia $10
    Michale Young $18

    Whaddaya think? Am I crazy to consider these or foolish not to do it?
    Thanks in advance!

  26. Carns says:

    @Commish Cauda: Harang

  27. Tony says:

    grey do you think teix’s days of batting .300+ are over? he had a monster July/Aug last year then pooped the sheets in Sept/OCT.

  28. OaktownSteve

    OaktownSteve says:

    @Grey: Last year Konerko finished as the ninth rated player (pitchers excluded) with a line of 89/39/111/0/.312. Howard won’t hit .312 but he could improve on the runs and the rbis with just bump back to his career numbers. He certainly could be #8 by year’s end.

    More important is the way the draft shakes out. The 1st base tiers to me look like Pujols in his own tier, followed by Cabrera and Votto in the second tier, with Howard, Teix, Gonzalez and Fielder essentially interchangable in tier 3.

    If you’re picking 8th in a 12 team snake and the top 3 are off the board, there’s a very real chance that Howard, Fielder, Teix and Gonzalez are all gone by your next pick at 17 at which point there’s a pretty big drop off to iffy Morneau, iffy Morales and reliably flawed Adam Dunn. So at pick 8 you might be contmplating which you’d most like out of that group of Teix, Gonzalez, Fielder and Howard and there is plenty of arguement to say Howard could be the best of those 4.

    Most people don’t think position scarcity at first base (though I think you kind of nailed it in one of your previews), but to me it’s almost exactly as volitile as SS, and those two positions have by far the highest deviation in value among the top 18.

  29. Frank Rizzo says:

    @Eddy: Thanks for the heads up on pitcher pairings.

    I look at how Weaver has progressed the last 3 years in K’s, ERA, and WHIP and I don’t know whats not to like there. He looks steady to me, probably not a bad #1 guy on your pitching staff who can be had later in the draft than guys who aren’t as solid.

  30. Trekker says:

    Grey, I have a question about draft strategy for risky players (e.g., Liriano) and players coming off really bad years (e.g., Shields). I’m considering bringing up one or two of these players early in the draft. My thinking is that with a lot of money to spend and some risk involved, other teams would not bid too high, preferring instead to save their money for better options later in the draft. Do you think this strategy has any merit? Thanks!

  31. Bristol says:


    I am in a 12 team keeper head to head points league. We get to keep players at draft postions for three years. This can lead to some really great bargains for the cost of a low draft pick. We can only keep five. In the past, around 20 to 25 pitchers are kept with the keepers (just to give you an idea of what will be left to draft from)

    Here are my keepers choices for this year and the round at which they can be kept in. Based on the information that I gave you in regards to the amount of pitchers kept, what players would you keep out of this list.

    Ryan Zimmerman 6th round
    Carlos Gonzalez 7th round
    Jason Heyward 8th round
    Jay Bruce 9th Round
    Nelson Cruz 11th Round
    Francisco Liriano 12th Round
    Josh Hamilton 19th Round
    Aaron Hill 20th Round
    Mat Latos 22nd Round

    Thanks in advance!!

  32. Tony says:

    @OaktownSteve: i agree. I draft from the 9th spot this year, and if I dont take a big 1B bat I dont see one coming back alot of times. In mocks sure, in my real draft, no way…. the thing with the howard, tex, fielder and agon group is they all have their quirks…. All great hitters that can give HUGE stats, but tex will suck early in the season, howard might hit for a lower average, fielder who knows it is an odd year right? and agon’s in a new park and has a new team (which should be a positive, but it’s yet to be seen).

    I’d be happy with any of them, but realistically HOWARD is the one guy I’d feel most comfortable taking and feeling like I have a legit 45 HR threat.

    Tex has no chance, Fielder is a coin flip, he can do it but will he? Agon 40 would be nice, 45+ would be pushing it but COULD happen, Howards done it consistently and last year the games missed hurt his attempt at it…..

  33. YourMomsBoyfriend says:


    and i think that, one day, i’m gonna sleep with Jenna Jameson. Shit ain’t happening.

  34. YourMomsBoyfriend says:

    @Commish Cauda:

    isn’t Beachy still technically a prospect?

  35. Grey

    Grey says:

    @Steve: Yeah, he has Tulo 4th overall, I don’t think I’d draft him at 10th. I just drafted Fielder last night, but tried to draft Howard, he just went for too much. I’d take Howard in a second 8th.

    @Amigo Miguel: No problemo, Amigo.

    @emporersmonkey: I do too.

    @famous anus: Go with Sean-Rod. Roberts is a slide into second away from missing 30 days.

    @Frank Kim: I’m not that excited about him, so I can’t be that concerned.

    @Jeff: No, that’s a strong staff.

    @Mets fan: Yup

    @24hourjack: Nope, that’s fair.

    @Corky Roboto: Nah, I’m fine.

    @Commish Cauda: Beachy, Sanabia, Maya, but Maya over the other two if they don’t get rotation spots.

    @Commish Cauda: Agree with below, hodgepadre…

    @The Miracles: Thanks for the kind words!

    @Frank Rizzo: No problem.

    @mindicohn: Tootie’s laughing.

    @carlos marmLOL: Ha, yup.

    @Frank Rizzo: No, I’m still drafting these guys, I’m just concerned. I’ve already drafted Gallardo in one league.

    @KeeblerMN: I’d keep Reyes and send the rest back.

    @Tony: I think Tex will hit .280.

    @OaktownSteve: I agree too, Rudy doesn’t which concerns me.

    @Trekker: Don’t think it works like that.

    @chata: Hehe

    @Bristol: Would’ve been good info to tell me if it’s a 3 OF league or 5 OF… Zimmerman, CarGo, Heyward, Hamilton, Liriano…

  36. mr baseball says:

    A Milton Bradley Game

    According to, Milton Bradley threw a glass coffee table at his wife during an argument on New Year’s Eve while playing
    Battleship (game) – Milton Bradley wife sunk his Battleship and that set him off

    Bradley’s wife filed a restraining order against him soon after the incident. “The glass shattered on my head and I started to bleed,”

  37. royce! says:

    It’s nice of you to point out your injury concerns about Tulo, but I think that anyone who has been paying attention knows that he’s not going to end up on any of your teams (unless he falls to at least the second round). But I suppose you want to clear your conscience in case others drafted him at 9 on your recommendation. Since your recommendation started with, “I’m massively concerned about ranking Tulowitzki here,” and referred to him as smelling like “cigarettes and violets,” if someone drafts him in the first round on your recommendation it’s like a casebook example of res ipsa loquitur.

    As much fun as owning Tulo was in Sept last year, I wouldn’t own him again. He’s an injury-prone mystery wrapped in an enigma wrapped in a bad haircut. And owning him in Sept is only fun if drafting him early hasn’t ruined your team by Sept.

    Speaking of sophomore slumps, I just awoke from a dream in which my mother-in-law was telling me how she didn’t draft Posey, and Posey got really angry at her and she was like, “Shut up, Wieters.” Which clearly indicates that I need to chill out on the FBB shizz.

  38. KeeblerMN says:

    Awesome! How did you feel about the Liriano and Buchholtz for $9 each and Marmol for $6? Good value there?

  39. Wilsonian says:

    @royce!: I had a fantasy baseball dream last week, too, it was terrible. I dreamt that I forgot about my online draft, so it auto-picked for me. However, I (or someone else) had really screwed with my rankings and I ended up with a bunch of bums and had to spend a long time trying to make a team out of waiver-wire guys. It was tragic, and reminded me that this shizz probably needs to take up a LITTLE less of my time, however, it hasn’t. It did get me to put my draft in my calender in my phone with about 15 reminders, though.

  40. Eddy says:

    @mr baseball:


    Wow, that’s just something else.

  41. chata says:


    thanks for the laugh !!
    (never saw the movie)

  42. TDCC says:

    O wonderful, you wait until after my draft to tell me that Howard and Gallardo may be bad picks. But I like the Cold War Kids too, so I guess I can forgive you. Definitely some good points to have going into my next draft.

  43. royce! says:

    Is anyone setting up razzball-centric mocks on MDC anymore? I had a mock yesterday and easily identified a razzball reader, but it was the first time this year that’s happened. It was the most challenging mock yet- the reader was drafting 11th and I was 12th, so he kept scooping me.

  44. Eddy says:


    Nah, the Razzmocks ceased about a month ago.

  45. royce! says:

    @Eddy: Crap. Might as well give up now then.

  46. Commish Cauda says:

    20-team, H2H-Points, Salary Cap Keeper League
    $70 cap, 28-man roster, start 11bats/9arms (5SP/4RP)

    I need a RP. Good middle men have value, but closers are gold.

    I’ve been offered Thornton $3 FOR Hardy $2 and Ivan Nova $1

    I like Nova, but I have plenty of pitching. My worry is that it would leave me with just Alberto Gonzalez (or other free agent fodder) as my only back-up to Tulo.

    If Thornton becomes the CHW closer it’s worth it, I think. What say you?

  47. Grey

    Grey says:

    @mr baseball: Oh, Jesus.

    @royce!: Yeah, true. re: Dream — Yeah, I wouldn’t own Posey. re: bad haircut — Ha!

    @KeeblerMN: Good value.

    @sean: Ha!

    @TDCC: I still would draft these guys. I’m just telling you concerns.

    @Eddy: Why?

    @Commish Cauda: I like it for you.

  48. MKEeast says:


    I saw the results of an experts’ draft you were in on mock draft central. The guy drafting before you took Votto and Te(i)x in the first two rounds. I don’t think he had a choice – all the reasonable pairings with a first round first baseman were gone. Elite MI – Utley, Cano, Tulo, HanRam – gone. Elite 3B – Wright, Longo, Zim, ARod – gone. OF? Braun, Cargo, Crawford – gone. Too early for pitchers and catchers. He got Holiday with his next pick. Does it seem reasonable to take two elite 1B?

    Just wondering

    Mock Draft:

  49. Commish Cauda says:


    Thanks. Follow-up question…Would is be better to give up Yunesky Maya instead of Nova?

  50. Tony says:

    @MKEeast: u just handcuff yourself, it fills your utility spot or if you play with an extra corner spot it fills that…. you lose flexability I think. I’ve contemplated this same idea, moreso last year than this year….

  51. Dean says:

    hmmm, im thinking of taking two big 1st basemen in the first two rounds if possible. There’s just so much production to be had. I am in an OBP league and the monster 1Bman are the guys with the most elite obp. Great AVG seems easier to find around the diamond.

    Grey, what do you think of Bautista at pick 26 in an OBP league. Clearly you dont like him but have you softened your outlook at all since ranking time?

    I’m thinking I’d be happy with Jos Bausti at 3rd base in an OBP if it costs me a 3rd round pick.

  52. Schmohawks Bob says:

    Apologies in advance for the long post.

    Below is the 2010 roster of an NL only 10 team league, two catchers, CI and MI, two UTIL, and 10 pitchers. The keeper salaries are listed below, 280 cap:

    1B Prince Fielder Mil 25
    2B Eric Young Jr. Col 13
    SS Juan Uribe LAD 5
    3B Pedro Alvarez Pit 16
    CI Ike Davis NYM 5
    MI Neil Walker Pit 5
    OF Garrett Jones Pit 9
    OF Luis Durango SD 5
    OF Carlos Beltran NYM 22
    OF Ryan Braun Mil 23
    OF Roger Bernadina Was 5
    C Miguel Montero Ari 9
    C Buster Posey SF 17
    UT Allen Craig StL 5
    UT Chris Johnson Hou 5
    P Barry Zito SF 9
    P Brian Wilson SF 17
    P Jhoulys Chacin Col 5
    P Jonathon Niese NYM 5
    P John Axford Mil 5
    P Ricky Nolasco Fla 13
    P Bobby Parnell NYM 5
    P Alejandro Sanabia Fla 5
    P Evan Meek Pit 5
    P Mark Melancon Hou 5
    OF Nate McLouth Atl 17
    C Geovany Soto ChC 17
    P Jordan Zimmermann Was 7

    I’m allowed to freeze up to 15, and retain auction topper rights to five. This team has a fair amount of power, but not much speed, nor top-end SP’s.

    I’m planning to keep Fielder, Neil Walker Uribe, Pedro Alvarez, Braun, Bernadina (SAGNOF), Montero, Posey, Ike Davis (I still can’t find him in your Top 300), Brian Wilson, Axford, Nolasco, Jhoulys, and Jordan Zimmerman. That’s 14. It’s an entire infield (except MI), one outstanding outfielder and a scrub, two legit closers, and, well, a few starting pitchers.

    I’m going to keep the topper rights to Carlos Beltran, McLouth, and hope I can buy them back for cheap.

    I’m going to try to trade Soto, but in an NL only league, I’ve got to keep him if I can’t trade him, so no more room to reserve any of the below.

    I’m on the fence about Chris Johnson, Evan Meek, Robot Jones, Eric Young, Jr. Can you rank how you’d value them in the context of this team, and should I sub any of them onto my roster.

    Mucho gracias in dvance.

  53. Eddy says:


    Interest waned. Not once, unfortunately, were we able to compile a full draft.

  54. Tony says:

    @Dean: you can find great average all around the diamond, but when you go 1B/1B in your first two picks you dont have a 3B, SS, 2B, or an OF’er yet and you’ve got two of one position…. I agree its tempting, but just not an ideal way to start your team. It just would depend how you draft the rest of your team.

  55. trick dad says:

    @Grey: I’m in a 12 team league where it’s H2H points. No transaction limit, but there is an innings limit of 70 per week. Roster is SP, SP, RP, RP, P, P, P, P, P, BN, BN, BN. I’m keeping Halladay and Lester from last year.
    Do you think it’s a good strategy to load up on batters first, then 5 RP that can give me quality innings (closers and set up men), and draft 5 SP’s late purely based on upside, that way I can drop them for spot starters as the season progresses?

  56. Eddy says:


    The only way I can see someone justifying the 1B/1B tactic is if they have the right keepers. For example, I’m in a keeper league and I’m charging into 2011 with Wright, Miggy and CarGo. This can give me flexibility to draft Dunn if I wished (and I might considering it’s an OBP league).

    But if you’re in a typical redraft league, then you’ll want to reconsider. I find that the 1B-3B-OF order of the first three rounds works out the best for balance.

  57. yankees2010 says:

    @Grey: I have to admit Grey, I am getting a little concerned about Yovani. I really like Lester and I would target him for my Number 1, but I don’t think he falls at a good spot. Add in the fact that he is on Boston and I live in “enemy territory” doesn’t help matters. Gallardo was working out well for my 1 SP, but now I need to think again. Perhaps I grab him and make sure my next few are better WHIP guys. For what it’s worth, I agree on Liriano. Scary stuff!

    Keep it up Grey (and continue the good work as well)!

  58. Grey

    Grey says:

    @Commish Cauda: Sure

    @Dean: No, I don’t like him.

    @Schmohawks Bob: Davis — He’s not in the top 300, sorry. I thought he was towards the end of it. I’m not a fan, either way. I think he’s what he was last year, which is good in NL-Only leagues, but eh in mixed leagues. Young, Robot, Meek… I wouldn’t sub any though.

    @Eddy: I think interest is probably higher now.

    @trick dad: Yes, that’s a good plan.

    @yankees2010: Cool, thanks.

  59. chata says:


    usually i remain quiet when i see blog talkers barking up the wrong tree .
    doesn’t make much sense to correct them to my way of thinking .

    but , now that were fessin’ up ,
    in one year leagues , i’m not touching a-gon or morneau , this year .
    (though i will admit to rebuking all trade offers for my a-gon in my keeper league , last year , in hopes that he would be traded to the sawx .)

    which brings me to this question ==> who gets off to a slower start this year (thru july 1st) …. a-gon or teix ?

    thanking you , in advance , for your opinion .

  60. Grey

    Grey says:

    @chata: Tex… A-Gon usually is better in the 1st half than the 2nd half.

  61. Francis says:

    As an owner of Jose Bautista debating on keeping him ($13 in 14 team league), Ben Zobrist just popped into my head. Great 2009 out of the blue with full playing time, major regression in 2010.

  62. Eddy says:


    Let’s hope you’re right.

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  63. Eddy says:


    Almsot forgot: as always, this is on MDC!

  64. chata says:


    agreed .
    but , the shoulder ?
    doesn’t it need 15 months to fully strengthen ??

  65. VinWins

    VinWins says:

    @Eddy: I’m in, Eddy. I’ve been doing so many public drafts, I’ll be lost when “my” players keep disappearing.

  66. Eddy says:


    Completely agree. Mocks on Yahoo! are such a joke. Can’t wait to go back to seeing Andrus going in the 4th and 5th and Stanton around the same round.

    Gotta love Razzball.

  67. chata says:


    thanks for scheduling it on a thursday .
    should be a good one .

  68. joe from point pleasant says:

    12 Team H2H Points League w/ 5 Keepers
    15 Start per Week Max for SP

    1B VOTTO




    What do you think of my team? Other than RP, which spots do you think most need to be addressed?

  69. Schmohawks Bob says:

    @Grey: Thanks for the advice.

    I’m not a huge fan of Ike Davis either, especially in Metco. But it helps me to know where you have him.

  70. Jeff says:

    Hola Sr. Grey,

    Excellent work you do here sir!

    I was wondering, I’m in an AL Only 10 team 5×5 Keeper League and I have a Carmona conundrum.

    Should I keep the groundball machine for $3 or the young gun Jeremy Hellickson for $15? Or ditch both, or some combo? I’m kinda leaning towards keeping Carmona and using the Hellickson savings to go after a Verlander type to anchor the rotation. What do you think kind sir?


  71. Wake Up says:

    If you are looking for 40 HR’s from 1B, A Gon seems like more of a lock than Howard. Plus he’s on base a lot more, strikes out a lot less and has better protection in the batting order. Also his base AVG is about Howard’s ceiling and he’s 3 years younger. As we know, these big power-only guys don’t age well.
    Tulo’s Sept was crazy indeed (15HR’s) but his end of year stats were almost identical to 2009 so the aberration doesn’t scare me as much.

  72. Grey

    Grey says:

    @Francis: Yup

    @chata: Could be, but I’m not concerned about him. Park’s too good, lineup’s too good, he’d have to really fail to be a disappointment.

    @joe from point pleasant: You’re really strong on SP and weak on speed and saves.

    @Schmohawks Bob: Gotcha

    @Jeff: Thanks! Carmona for $3 is fine… Forget Hellickson for $15.

  73. Eddy says:


    Oh lord.

    Good to hear.

  74. SinisterKid says:


    Love the site. It definitely helped me win my league last season (well it and Carlos Gonzalez). Question . . .

    Any tips on general draft strategy be in a standard league thats very shallow & has no IP limit?

  75. Wake Up says:

    @Wake Up: And, I have nothing but hate for the Sawx so this pains me to state.

  76. Wilsonian says:

    Wondering if anyone can answer this for me.

    I’m the Commish in a Yahoo league and this is the first time we’ve done an online draft (used to do in person, but people are now in different states). I’ve already got the keepers in the draft and set it up in accordance with our final results from 2010. Does anyone know if there is a way to change the draft time? Meaning, how long people have to pick. I’m pretty sure it’s defaulted to 90 seconds, but it’s a smaller league and people want some additional time.

    Thanks to anyone with some advice or help.

  77. Grey

    Grey says:

    @SinisterKid: Thanks for the kind words! Roto league? How many teams?

    @Wilsonian: No idea, sorry.

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  78. SwaggerJackers says:

    @Eddy: Swagger Jackers is back for more Razz mocks!

  79. SinisterKid says:


    Ah yeah, sorry. Roto, 10 teams, 5 x 5 categories, but only 10 hitters (standard positions plus UTIL). This makes it so the hitters on the fringe of owned/FA, especially OF, are usually pretty ownable. It always seemed like Brad Hawpe was kinda the dividing line, bouncing between teams and waivers all season, but I’m not sure that applies anymore. What would your strategy be in this set up?

  80. Wilsonian says:

    @Grey: no problem, just thought I’d ask that here. Maybe someone who’s done a few can figure it out.

  81. steve b says:

    Grey I feel about Posey the same way you do about Say Heyward .He’s being taken in the 3rd round.Thats insane.Its not easier your second year.Pitchers wont take you for granted anymore.Your gonna get a little chin music.Taking an a second year catcher with no track record as your third pick.You just dont know.I wont do it but I see it every mock

  82. steve b says:

    and sorry grey I luv ya but guys in Howards shape dont age well.The bat speed slows down.I think the 45 homer days are gone.JMO .I watched it happen to Cecil Fielder in Detroit whose training regimen was to eat lots of big macs all winter.

  83. Do you have any concerns about Utley’s knee?

  84. Greedy says:

    Grey, I don’t mind you backing off at all…

    It is becoming increasingly hard to make waves in the fantasy baseball world with your projections.

    Yahoo and ESPN’s rankings are very aggressive and the “sexy picks” are usually a tad overrated while the “old balls” players like Berkman, Magglio, Abreu are the new “sleepers”.

    I liked your original take that Howard, Gallardo, Heyward, on MDC they were all underrated, because they were… the ADP from MDC this winter has to be the worst projections I have seen; but the “perts” at the major providers that we all love to hate kind of have things pretty right this year… at least as far as the buzz guys go.

    They sure are taking some of the fun out of it.

  85. manfromearth says:

    I guess this column answers the question I’ve had for a few days: “Why did Grey tell me that drafting Gallardo and Liriano as my first two pitchers in rounds 7 and 8 was a bad idea?”. Hopefully, I’m cured now.

  86. Will says:


    I get 5 keepers in a 10 team 5×5 league. Current keepers are Cano, Fielder, Zimmerman, and CarGo. Who should my final keeper be?

    J. Upton, Reyes, McCutchen, or Choo???

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