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The Verducci Effect as explained by Amerigo Verducci, “Pitchers generally feel the effects of abusive increases in workload the next year, not the season in which they were pushed.  That’s a no amore!”  I believe Amerigo’s cousin in the States, Tom, leaves off the last line when he’s describing it.  So to avoid this, clubs shutdown or skip young pitchers (this applies to those 25 years old and younger).  In fantasy baseball, lots of championships are won in September, H2H and otherwise.  If you have rookie pitchers, it’s imperative — ooh, strong word — that you pay attention to which pitchers are going to be shutdown or skipped.  Anyway, here’s a list of some pitchers who may be shutdown in September:

Mat Latos – I’m positive if they clinch early, Latos will be done for the regular season.  Then again, Latos was on Amerigo’s list last year and he’s doing a’ight.  I say pitch him an extra 200 innings this year and he’ll have a zero ERA in 2011.

Jaime Garcia – Been pretty yawnstipating for the last month or so and now he’s inching closer to The VE, a pitcher’s worst STD.

Jeremy Hellickson – Rays are conservative and Hellickson’s already ticketed for the bullpen.

Phil Hughes – With the results of the Joba Rules and Hughes Rules coming back negative (or is that positive?), I’d just continue to throw Hughes, but I don’t run the Yankees (I know that was a common misconception, sorry to disappoint).

Madison Bumgarner – Probably has around 5 more starts left in his arm.  Giants are a team that is in playoff contention, so they might push Bumgarner.  It wouldn’t surprise me, at least.

David Price – Wouldn’t be shocked to see Lance Cormier start a game for the Rays in the last week of the season after they’ve clinched, unless the Sox push them to the brink for the Wild Card.

Stephen Strasburg – If it’s a surprise to see him on this list, it’s good to have you emerge from that coma.

Mike Leake – Between him and Travis Wood, Dusty is gonna have to try and find where he wrote down Harang’s phone number.

Travis Wood – See 1/8th of an inch above.

Mike Minor – Is he even still in the rotation?  Yes, but won’t be for long.

Dallas Braden – If he throws another 30+ innings, prepare for the 2011 post title, “Verducci Does Dallas.”

Jhoulys Chacin – Rockies better put a leash on, uh, Yo-Lease.

  1. Chili Davis Con Carne says:
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    Broxton and Denard were dropped by an exasperated owner….either worth picking up for the playoffs?
    I have Capps, Jenks and Lindstrom at CL
    and Victorino, Abreu, McCutchen, Quentin and Bossman at OF currently.

  2. Moonlight's Grahams says:
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    Thanks Grey.

  3. Baron Von Vulturewins

    Baron Von Vulturewins says:
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    Latos better get shut down soon since I flipped him for Vic Martinez.

    I think Victor Martinez would hit better if people called him “Vic.” Like the guy on ‘The Shield.’

    P.S. A few hours before trade deadline in my league, someone offered me Josh Hamilton/John Lackey for Liriano/Brett Gardner. I sprained my figure pressing ‘Accept.’ I did good, yes?*

    *On a sidenote, my vaunted rotation of Felix/Latos/Liriano/Kershaw/Nolasco is now, thanks to trades, Kershaw/Nolasco/Lackey/Slowey/Westbrook. But I’m way ahead in IP, need offense, and also bagged Prince Fielder, Josh Hamilton, and Vic Martinez for my troubles.

  4. Grey,

    Floyd or Nolasco going forward. K/BB is a category.

    Cheers,
    Bostonbeerman

  5. greg says:
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    Grey,

    Unrelated to the post, but youk or m young moving forward in a 3 year keeper league. Im out of it for this year. Trading holliday to get either. I want 3b filled because its so scarce. Good trade? If so which is going to be better over the next 2 years? Preesh.

  6. jeffjam says:
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    Having Latos, Garcia, Hellickson, Bumgarner, Price, Wood and Minor mixed up on all of my teams, all contending, really boost my chances.

  7. Joe B says:
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    @Grey: Looking for a temporary fill-in at 2B; who do you like out of these schmohawks? Rayburn, Walker (Neil not Todd), or Assdribble

  8. Anonymous says:
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    @Grey: For steals and not sucking, rest of the way: Bourn, Desmond, Pierre or David Murphy (hey, he’s got 3 Steals over the past 2 weeks…)

  9. Dad says:
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    Haha. Did someone hack into Yahoo’s system or did Takahashi actually say this (via his Player Note)???:

    “LHP Hisanori Takahashi got his first major-league save Monday, taking over as the first option with Francisco Rodriguez gone for the season. “I am thinking, ‘Why me?’” Takahashi said. “I don’t have an upper 90s fastball. But I will try my best.”‘

  10. Joe B says:
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    @Anonymous: Frenchy, no doubt…

    @Grey: Something that surprised me as I looked at my RCL championship team… VIVA LOS BASTARDOS!!!

    H/AB R HR RBI SB AVG
    115/429 72 25 61 1 .268 Prince Fielder

    125/430 81 27 75 3 .291 Dan Uggla

    Shouldn’t these lines be reversed??? Glad I spent a 1st round pick on Porky Prince (sarcasm), but Uggla saved me with his career year thus far…

  11. Mr2Bits says:
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    Well grey, CC got swiped before I could approve the 8th round keeper and Minor trade. Is Freddy Sanchez or CJ Wilson worth some crap player and lets say a 14th pick or would you just pass?

  12. Baron Von Vulturewins

    Baron Von Vulturewins says:
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    @Grey: Yeah, I could care less about Lackey. But rather than haggle, I just accepted. I was thinking of dropping Gardner (who wasn’t playing for me) so the trade was basically Hamilton for Liriano, which seemed like an auto-yes.

    re: ‘The Shield’ — you should watch it. Judging from your stated preferences, I think you’d like it a lot. I’m sure there are other fans on here who can second the recommendation or, as I like to say, give it a secommendation.

    @Joe B: Drafting MMD over an available Uggla is one of my many regrets this year.

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    @Joe B: For me, Frenchy = Francoeur, who I refuse to own and also refuse to spell his name correctly (unless I got lucky). I’m guessing you mean Pierre…

  14. Shmorgie S. Board says:
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    Utley is back!

    Do I drop Alex Gordon or Scutaro to make room? (OBP league) I have Hairson Jr. eligible all over the place, so I could drop either guy.

  15. Calogero says:
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    @greg: I’d make sure Youk qualifies for 3B next year. I’m pretty sure in most formats he’ll be 1B only for 2011.

  16. Mr2Bits says:
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    thanks Grey

  17. @Dad: He’s like the self-deprecating Woody Allen of closers.

  18. Baron Von Vulturewins

    Baron Von Vulturewins says:
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    @Grey: Forgot — I also have Count Floyd in the mix, SP-wise. Do you think the wheels have fallen off his magic pumpkin wagon?

  19. Child Please says:
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    16-team H2H 6×6 (OBP, QS)
    Who would you radther have for the rest of the season, Glaus or Gaby Sanchez??

  20. Howard says:
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    @Grey would you start Zito@PHI or Arroyo@AZ tonight? They roofied last week so may be in line for a good outing!

  21. Sos says:
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    Pick two for rest of year: kershaw, cain, nolasco

  22. Hello Utley, Cruz back to the DL…at least its good timing. In fact I think Utley took Cruz’s spot in the first place, hmmm. (Was either him or Tulo, can’t remember exactly).

    Wondering if I should throw him in right away or wait a couple days.

  23. Shmorgie S. Board says:
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    @Grey

    Cheers, big ears.

    *insert Simpsons’ “Mistah Sparkle” voice here*
    Sayonara, Mistah Scutaro!

  24. Eddy says:
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    I’ll give a strong secommendation for The Shield. Great series.

  25. Awesomus Maximus

    Awesomus Maximus says:
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    Great content here. Such an important, oft overlooked situation where fantasy doesn’t align with reality (seems to happen in the bedroom quite often, as well). Neverthehoo, you think Big Baby Jesus gets a few extra starts thanks to his little DL stint, or do you think that’ll actually make the Nats even more cautious (or no change at all)?

  26. b says:
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    Kuo had a hold/loss last night according to Yahoo.

    Aren’t these stats mutually exclusive? I get that he was lifted with guys on but it still doesn’t make much sense; if he’s responsible for them and they score then he didn’t hold the lead. Is there a scenario where a hold/win is possible? I can’t think of one.

    Are Raburn and Snider both more valuable than Gomes for the rest of the year? thanks

  27. Grey

    Grey says:
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    @Sos: Kershaw, Cain…

    @Elijah: I guess start him, but I’m not sure of your options.

    @Shmorgie S. Board: Ha!

    @Eddy: Cool, will have to watch the entire run this offseason like I did with Lost last offseason.

    @Awesomus Maximus: Ha! I think Strasburg will throw a bit later into the year because of the DL stint (same amount of innings as he was supposed to go though).

  28. Grey

    Grey says:
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    @b: Nah, you can get a Hold and a Loss. Can’t get a Hold and a Win. The whole Hold stat is stupid. I’d go with Snider, unless you need a 2nd baseman.

  29. sean says:
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    10-team, 5×5, Kemp and Haren for Hamilton worth it? I need help in all offensive cats

    @b: I’m hardly an expert on holds that aren’t of the sleeper variety, but that doesn’t seem to make much sense for me since he was still the pitcher of record because he owned the baserunners that scored.

  30. Grey

    Grey says:
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    @sean: Not worth it.

  31. Okay, I know I just traded Upton away but this guy and I like trading our players back and forth. Would you do Marcum for Upton? With players like Hammel, Holland, Chacin, Volquez, Rzepczynski I think Marcum is somewhat replaceable.

  32. Or how about Marcum for Pence?

  33. Steve says:
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    @Grey: That Kuo outing yesterday is the embodient of everything that is wrong with the Hold.

    And this is from someone that plays in a league with Holds. I love me some MR-ness and there’s nothing sweeter than sifting through all the MRs and plucking out someone like Frieri who then gets you a couple of key Holds.

    But to get fantasy ‘credit’ for putting your team in a huge hole that ultimately led to them losing the game is just wrong. It’s bad enough owning Kuo – just glad I wasn’t up against the guy that has him in my Holds league (emoticon)

    Elsewhere, I have:

    D Hudson v Reds
    Garza v Rangers
    Chacin @ Dodgers
    Minor v Nats
    Buchholz v Angels

    all going in my H2H league today. No reason to sit any of ‘em, is there?

  34. Tracy McBeltran says:
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    Please pick two one year keepers out of this lot: Nelson Cruz, Zobrist, Corey Hart, Brian Roberts, Price, Kershaw, Hanson, Gallardo, Johan. Thank you kindly.

  35. bpasinko says:
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    You may want to bench David Price before the Rays do. His ERA should be closer to 4 than 3, it’s first full season and his last two starts he’s lost some control.

  36. Anonymous says:
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    To All: Pagan not in the lineup tonight. Not doing to hot lately. F-Mart takes his place.

  37. Awesomus Maximus

    Awesomus Maximus says:
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    @Grey: I can definitely second Eddy’s recommendation of ‘The Shield’. My wife and I watched the entire series in a couple of weeks… just couldn’t stop popping in the DVDs every night.

  38. Grey

    Grey says:
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    @Frank Kim: I’d do Upton then Pence, unless you don’t need steals, then reversed.

    @Steve: Frieri’s been bombing now though, huh? I’d start them all.

    @Tracy McBeltran: Cruz, Gallardo…

    @bpasinko: True, bp.

    @Anonymous: Thanks for the heads up!

    @Awesomus Maximus: Nice, definitely is on my list of shows I want to see. Top five show of the last ten years? Rank it for me.

  39. @Steve: I’d start them all. I hope Minor pitches well, I’ve got him going in my league. Only concern I’d have is Hudson against the Reds but I’d still roll the dice.

  40. Steve says:
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    @Grey: Yeah, the clock struck midnight on him. Gets us all eventually…

  41. Homer at the Bat says:
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    Trade offer in a h2h keeper league?

    A) Pujols + Westbrook

    or

    2) Kinsler + Markakis

    If I did the trade, I’d receive side A. I have Pedroia and Fielder, and I’d move Huff from CI to OF to cover Markakis’s spot. Make the move?

  42. Steve says:
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    @Frank Kim: Yeah, I’m gonna. It’s H2H so it would need to be a pretty lopsided matchup for me to sit someone.

    Got none of those today.

  43. bpasinko says:
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    @Homer at the Bat: It’s debatable when and even if Kinsler comes back right? Definitely make the move.

  44. Dumbmutt says:
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    Is C.J. Wilson on this list too?

  45. bpasinko says:
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    @Dumbmutt: I think Verducci focuses on young pitchers, so Wilson wouldn’t count

  46. Awesomus Maximus

    Awesomus Maximus says:
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    @Grey: Whoo… that’s a tough one. I’d put ‘The Sopranos’ at the top of the list for sure. Ignoring comedies (too much personal preference there, plus it’s a totally different animal), I could see putting it in one of those other 4 spots. Strong writing through all of the seasons, with solid episodic action as well as superb season (and multi-season) arcs.

  47. yankees2010 says:
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    Hello Grey,
    I am holding onto Cueto and Volquez as well as Minor and Hellickson (I have many, many starters with the first three on my bench). Do you think my Reds Starters are going to be ok down the stretch or should I lose one/both? What would you do with Minor and Hellickson? I am considering Hellickson for a Keeper.

    By the way, I am in a Holds League and I have not seen the Kuo line yet. It is a bit of a frustrating Stat, but it does give value to mostly useless MRs.

    Thanks Grey and I am still hoping to view the first 5 Seasons of 24.

  48. Steve says:
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    @royce!: Hate it when there’s a Leake in the pen. Especially when it’s in my pocket.

    @Grey: Kinda too late cos I dumped his ass for Parnell (an affluent suburb of Auckland, BTW), but how do you feel about Raburn v KJ at 2B?

  49. Grey

    Grey says:
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    @yankees2010: They should be okay as far as innings go. Minor and Hellickson I would drop once they move to the pen. I watched the first season of 24, got bored, never went back.

    @royce!: I’m prescient!

    @Steve: KJ

  50. royce! says:
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    @Steve: Heyo!

  51. Steve says:
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    Come on Roy. What the f*** are you doing?

  52. Grey

    Grey says:
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    @Steve: Very frustrating.

  53. Steve says:
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    @Grey: ERA and WHIP are really the only way I can make up ground in the RCL.

    Not like that, though.

  54. Grey

    Grey says:
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    @Steve: I’m hoping in an hour and a half and 5 innings, the overall line looks okay.

  55. GopherDay says:
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    @Grey: This is kind of random, but do you play in any leagues where they other members don’t know you are a Fantasy sports God? Or do you play in all “expert” leagues?

  56. Steve says:
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    @Grey: Yeah.

    I have one of those days today where any good thing that happens on any one team, will have an adverse effect on at least one other…

  57. GopherDay says:
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    @Steve: That happens to you too?? I’m in a dynasty league where I’ve been out of it since the beginning of the season and I’m building for next year, and it seems that every time my main league team has a bad day my dynasty league team does incredible. Frustrating to me though.

  58. GopherDay says:
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    @Grey: Also, dynasty league. Gallardo or Kershaw? Same thing?

  59. Grey

    Grey says:
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    @GopherDay: Gallardo by a hair, could go either way though really.

  60. Wilsonian says:
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    Can Verlander just start in the 2nd inning from now on? I mean seriously… In a league where we count walks I’d love for him to pitch like the keeper he was, preferably without his head up his ass…

  61. Wilsonian says:
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    @Wilsonian: I take that back… Maybe he just shouldn’t pitch at all.

  62. Grey

    Grey says:
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    @Wilsonian: Yeah, the ol’ 4.00 WHIP ain’t pretty.

  63. Steve says:
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    We interrupt scheduled programming to bring you an announcement from Razzball Fantasy Football.

    Anyone’s never played fantasy football before (or has maybe only played once before) – and wants to give it a try, I’m commishing an RCL for n00bs (and near-n00bs) this season.

    If you want in, shoot me a mail at sglyon[at]gmaildotcom.

    And make sure check you out http://football.razzball.com/ while you’re at it. Doc does a fantastic job over there.

  64. Steve says:
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    Sonavapence!

  65. big o says:
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    @Grey:

    jorge posada stealing bases like there’s no tomorrow .

  66. Steve says:
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    @Grey: Little more run support would be nice…

  67. Goose says:
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    so, i just traded away I-Stew, snUggla and Verlander for Andrus and Beltran. (umm, d’oh? sorta?) i drunkenly made the offer — never a good idea — and guy quickly accepted before the inevitable next morning bleary-eyed think-twice cancel. not that i’m totally hosed; i’m very happy to have Andrus as a keeper. it’s just that gave up TWO of my keepers, and a possible third, for him and old rickety ‘tran. yeah, good stuff.

    but is there a Razzball term for when when you make a trade after a few beers that you then have misgivings over the next day? Drunk Dealed?

    and of course i started Verlander tonight in his last hurrah while the trade processes. is there another term for when a guy craps all over your team in his final act after being traded? The Last Waltz? (“I loved having Verlander’s Ks all year long, dealt him and thought I got good value — then he took me out for The Last Waltz.”)

  68. @Goose:

    Drunk Dealed, yeah, and when you go back in the morning to cancel it, its already accepted, heh. Oh, never happened to me!

  69. Grey

    Grey says:
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    @Steve: Hehe

    @big o: Red Bull…

    @Steve: Agreed

    @Goose: Ouch, someone should take away your fantasy site password when you’re drunk. There’s not a term for that. How about Goosed? Last Waltz sounds good to me, which doesn’t work.

  70. Oscar says:
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    question, should i trade Utley for Kinsler? 10 man keeper league

  71. Steve says:
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    @Grey: You’re welcome.

  72. Speaking of getting drunk, a friend just called and asked if I wanted to see the game Sunday, box seats right behind home plate. Guess I’m goin.

  73. Steve says:
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    @Steve: Oops. Reversed him.

  74. big o says:
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    rangers on the road without cruz
    delicate .

  75. Mitch Williams Jr. pitching well for Detroit, good thing we traded him away.

  76. Wilsonian says:
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    Glaus, Joe Guillen, Pat the Bat for the rest of the year in a 16 Team H2H for Utility?

  77. Oh, actually its the Friday Nite game.

  78. Oscar says:
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    Anyone I need help ASAP, been offered Ian Kinsler for Chase Utley, I am sitting in 5 place in my 10 team, 4 player keeper league. I like Ian cause he can fill the void that chase will leave if I trade him, he is younger and on a talent packed lineup down in Texas. What should I do? please help…

  79. fitz says:
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    @Oscar: Keep Utley.

  80. Goose says:
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    @Grey: Goosed! haha, indeed.

  81. Oscar says:
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    @fitz: grey ranked them 1 and 2, i love utley but at 31 he is becoming an injury prone, i also have ryan howard and i hate when the phills suck cause it means utley and howard are sucking

  82. Wilsonian says:
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    Hudson has summoned his inner Morrow…

  83. Steve says:
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    Yikes. Pence – stop doing this to me.

  84. Awesomus Maximus

    Awesomus Maximus says:
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    @Grey: Full disclosure… I almost always wait for a show to complete its run so I can just watch the entire thing at my own pace, so I haven’t seen ‘In Treatment’ (they weren’t sure if they’d write more episodes for a while there) or ‘Mad Men’. I also still haven’t gotten around to watching ‘Deadwood’ yet, as I’m currently working on a project that has me watching 200 films this calendar year, so after Yankees games, ‘The Real World’ and keeping up with the “one movie every 1.8 days” pace, I don’t have much time to invest in a TV series.

    ‘The Sopranos’ at #1 for sure… probably ‘The Wire’, ‘Six Feet Under’ and then ‘The Shield’… if you include mini-series, then I’d put ‘Band of Brothers’ in there. Being on basic cable definitely puts a show like ‘The Shield’ at a slight disadvantage. Good writing and pushing the envelope makes the restraints less noticeable, but those restraints do make the show feel lighter than it could be from time to time. That being said, (without giving anything away) there are heavy moments all the time that put any weight those restraints took away right back into the show, starting with the very first episode in the series.

    Also, I agree with you on ’24′, for what it’s worth. I remember sticking with the 2nd season because there was one excellent episode pretty early on. I kept thinking the magic would be coming back any episode, but it eventually became obvious that it was a one trick pony and I never went back for more.

  85. Steve says:
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    Is Crain now the 8th inning guy in Minnesota?

  86. Grey

    Grey says:
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    @Steve: Hehe

    @Awesomus Maximus: Wow, that’s a lot of movies. I’m surprised you even had time to write that comment. So what was the best movie of the year so far?

    I bought the first season of Deadwood and returned it and didn’t bother with any other seasons. Was too slow for me. Wasn’t bad, and I could see going back for more, but I’m in no rush, just as there weren’t. I like waiting for a show on DVD too. Makes it easier to watch as a full piece rather than waiting on summers and reruns. I’m glad I did that with Lost. Mad Men’s great, unfortunately, I’m watching it as it goes after watching the first two seasons on DVD, so now I’m stuck with commercials and hiatuses. I never watched Six Feet Under, but that’s in the running with The Shield for what I should watch. Interesting you put it above it.

    @Steve: For now, while Rauch looks dusty.

  87. Grey

    Grey says:
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    **EYJ!**

  88. Steve says:
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    @Grey: Bah. Rauch’s not the only one. Capps is a clown.

    Don’t these idiots know I need to get my WHIP down?

  89. Grey

    Grey says:
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    @Steve: I’d send them a postcard.

  90. GopherDay says:
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    @Grey: I own him in my dynasty league. I need steals, would you drop Bartlett for him in a different league? I could keep him for a last round pick.

  91. Steve says:
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    OK, got out of that. Changing my allegiance to the White Sox. Need a Thornton vulture win.

  92. Grey

    Grey says:
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    @GopherDay: Does that mean someone else can keep Bartlett for a last round pick? If no, go for it.

    @Steve: You’re so fickle.

  93. Steve says:
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    @Grey: Agile.

  94. GopherDay says:
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    @Grey: No, it means someone can keep Bartlett for a 5th round pick. Hmmm…Maybe I should let someone keep him there…Hehe

  95. Steve says:
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    Doesn’t look like Ozzie’s going to get his Putz out.

    @Grey: Out with one Junior (Jerry), in with the next (Eric).

  96. Steve says:
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    You’re effing kidding me.

  97. GopherDay says:
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    @Steve: Right now I’m very happy that I’m not part of the Chicago or Minnasota bull pen! Hehe Oh? What’s that? I own Lindstrom? Crap.

  98. Steve says:
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    @GopherDay: Owning Capps and Thiornton, really thought I might get SOMETHING out of that.

    Apart from a bloated ERA and WHIP of course.

  99. Wilsonian says:
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    Disregarding any specific need, LaRoche or Victorino for the rest of the year?

  100. Steve says:
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    No Go Kuo.

    He’s unavailable to pitch tonight.

  101. Giggles McGehee says:
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    G-d bless Eric Young Jr.

  102. Steve says:
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    @Grey: It’s all turned to s*** for my boy Chacin.

    How many chances have the Rockies had to score some runs for him? Sheesh. Still, with Hudson, Garza, Buchholz and Minor it’s been a pretty good day in the ol’ H2H.

    Gonna be behind in ERA and WHIP tho…

  103. GopherDay says:
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    Anyone watch the Braves game? How did Minor look tonight?

  104. Awesomus Maximus

    Awesomus Maximus says:
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    @Grey: Yeah, it’s a tough pace to keep up with an infant, but so far I’m managing (130 movies watched, 70 more to go at this point). It’s also a ‘no re-watch’ affair, so only movies I’ve never seen before count towards the total. And finally, I have to give the movie a fair and honest review (1-5 stars) and aim to keep my average above 3.0 for the year (I’m at 3.22 right now, damn ‘Catwoman’!)… so there’s only so much filler/crap I can get away with to meet my quota.

    I don’t think I could pick a single movie. One that went almost completely under the radar is ‘In The Loop’ which has some brilliantly witty writing and some great performances. Going old-school, I finally got around to watching Tod Browning’s ‘Freaks’ and, though the acting is terrible (there were few professional actors in the film), I was blown away by how well the ‘fright factor’ and social commentary held up… hope they find that lost footage someday. For a comedy, ‘Hot Tub Time Machine’ was excellent and you can’t beat the soundtrack. Documentary, ‘Wal-Mart: The High Cost of Low Prices’ was an eye opener, even for someone like me who has been a staunch anti-Wal-Marter for years and thought I was familiar with all of their crimes against humanity. For a foreign film, I’d recommend ‘The Counterfeiters’, which takes an interesting, original angle on the Nazi regime while it both pumps and breaks your heart (the great acting and directing doesn’t hurt, either). If you want to know where nightmares come from, pick up Lars von Trier’s ‘Antichrist’… Willem DaFoe (underrated in my humble opinion) and Charlotte Gainsbourg are both spectacular, while the story and imagery take you places most people would rather avoid. Trier certainly isn’t everyone’s cup of tea, but I appreciate his poetic, non-literal style of storytelling.

    The most pleasant surprise of the year, though, came from South Korean writer/director/producer Chan-wook Park and his “Revenge Trilogy” (thematic trilogy, not chronological). Comprised of ‘Sympathy for Mr. Vengeance’, ‘Oldboy’ and ‘Lady Vengeance’, I’m comfortable recommending any/all of them to anyone who can appreciate movies on a level where you notice cinematography, shot framing, camera movement… things of this nature, but also want a gritty story with a good dose of action, suspense, plot twists and character depth (and don’t mind reading subtitles). Park is definitely a style all his own, but you can clearly see flashes of Scorsese, Kubrick, Lynch and Tarantino (good Tarantino… not that weak sauce he delivers too often). ‘Sympathy for Mr. Vengeance’ is my personal favorite of the three, but I have no complaints regarding the other two.

    How’s that for a succinct response to a simple question?

  105. GopherDay says:
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    @Steve: We’re just on opposite ends today. I’ve got Kershaw going so I like the lack of Rockie runs.

  106. Grey

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    @Steve: They let him out to dry.

    @GopherDay: Looked great.

    @Awesomus Maximus: That’s awesome, I’m going to bookmark that for when I’m trying to come up with something to rent. I’ve been meaning to see almost all of those films. Did you see Man On Wire? Excellent, if you haven’t.

  107. Awesomus Maximus

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    @GopherDay: Just saw a recap on Sportscenter and he looked good.

  108. Steve says:
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    @Grey: If it’s possible to follow anything on Fantasycast, that’s kinda how it looked.

  109. Anonymous says:
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    In addition to Ben Zobrist, I also hate Scott Baker. Dropped him for Niese in a dynasty on an impulse. If he stops sucking, I can pick him back up. If he keeps sucking, hopefully he can suck on someone else’s team.

  110. Awesomus Maximus

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    @Grey: Yeah, just caught that one not too long ago. I was surprised at how compelling and interesting it was considering there was little footage, so they relied on retelling through interviews and reenactments.

  111. Awesomus Maximus

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    Speaking of Minor… 10-Team, 5×5, H2H… going against a streamer this week. Thinking of dropping Minor for either Guthrie (vs. M’s) or Volquez (vs. ‘Zona). Volquez is most likely in line for a nice number of K’s, but he ain’t exactly the poster boy for reliability. Guthrie has been pitching nicely and though there are few teams I’d take over the O’s… the M’s would definitely be one of them.

    Or behind door #3, I just hold onto Minor and ride the nice K/W/ERA/WHIP day I got from him, Buch, Greinke and Garcia and let the streamer stream. Wouldn’t be the first time I’ve taken W’s and K’s from him without streaming (17-0-3 in our two matchups this season… doode hates me).

  112. Awesomus Maximus

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    @Awesomus Maximus: Err… *few teams I would take the O’s over*. You know what I meant.

  113. Steve says:
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    @Grey: If you’re sitting here in your Padilla-pink shirt (as I am), trying to choose between Madson and Crain for Holds, which way do you go?

  114. Steve says:
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    And here comes the big man with a 6-0 lead…

  115. Grey

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    @Awesomus Maximus: I’d go with Volquez, but then you have to keep streaming.

    @Steve: Ha… Madson.

  116. Howard says:
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    @Grey Nice call on Arroyo tonight and of course Zito roofied again! Thanks!

  117. Grey

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    @Howard: No problem. Roofied is a term for rookies.

  118. cubbies299 says:
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    Would you trade Alfonso Soriano or Lance Berkman for Gaby Sanchez if you needed avg and had a decent lead in hrs?

  119. bravo says:
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    tabata or EYJ?

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