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In this month’s closer look, let’s discuss trading for closers.  Now before people think my battleship has sunk, I’m not saying to pay top dollar for closers.  But with us heading into July, it should be pretty clear how badly you need saves.  Luckily, saves are one of the categories (steals are another) where you can make up ground quickfast.  If you’re ten or more saves behind a pack of people and can gain three or more points with an additional closer or two, then you should be thinking about trading for a couple.   I’d look to trade one player from your strengths for two closers.  Think Shields for two donkey-corns.  Or a donkey-corn and a brain freeze.  It really depends on your strengths and weaknesses.  And since saves do come in bunches, if you’re finding yourself picking up plenty of ground in saves, then in August, you can trade away a closer or two for a different piece.  Anyway, here’s all of the closers for your fantasy baseball team, as of right now:

$12 Salads

You know that restaurant your girlfriend/wife/what-have-you likes to go to that charges, like, $12 for a salad? Every time you go there, you have a thoroughly solid meal. No complaints, except you just paid $12 for a salad when you could’ve went to McDonald’s and stuffed you and your woman for ten schmools and had $2 in quarters left over to make the hotel bed vibrate. These closers are $12 salads.

1. Jonathan Broxton (Ronald Belisario, Ramon Troncoso, Cory Wade)
2. Francisco Rodriguez (Pedro Feliciano, Bobby Parnell)
3. Joe Nathan (Matt Guerrier, Jose Mijares)
4. Jonathan Papelbon (Takashi Saito, Hideki Okajima, Manny Delcarmen)

Donkey-corns

Imagine you’re following a donkey, who’s wearing a wool cap, through a desert for 1700 miles. Why are you following a donkey? Because he promises you something wonderful and you just need to trust him. Does the donkey talk? Yes. Yes, he does talk. So when you and the donkey in the wool cap arrive at his destination, he removes his the wool cap to reveal a horn. The donkey is a unicorn and his gift to you for your trust is saves. These closers are Donkey-corns.

5. Heath Bell (Edward Mujica)
6. Mariano Rivera (+1) (Brian Bruney, Alfredo Aceves)
7. Bobby Jenks (-1) (Octavio Dotel, Matt Thornton, Scott Linebrink)
8. Francisco Cordero (David Weathers, Arthur Rhodes, Nick Masset)
9. Brian Fuentes (+2) (Darren Oliver, Justin Speier)
10. Ryan Franklin (+2) (Jason Motte, Kyle McClellan, Dennys Reyes)
11. Andrew Bailey (+16) (Brad Ziegler, Michael Wuertz, Santiago Casilla)
12. David Aardsma (+12) (Sean White, Mark Lowe, Chad Cordero)
13. Brian Wilson (+2) (Jeremy Affeldt, Bob Howry)
14. Huston Street (+6) (Joel Peralta, Manny Corpas)
15. Kevin Gregg (-1) (Carlos Marmol)
16. Fernando Rodney (+2) (Joel Zumaya, Bobby Seay)
17. George Sherrill (+5) (Jim Johnson, Danys Baez, Chris Ray)
18. Brad Lidge (-8) (Ryan Madson)
19. Mike Gonzalez (-2) (Rafael Soriano)
20. Jose Valverde (+8) (LaTroy Hawkins, Chris Sampson)
21. Joakim Soria (+4) (Juan Cruz, Jamey Wright, Kyle Farnsworth)
22. J.P. Howell (+8) (Dan Wheeler, Grant Balfour, Joe Nelson)

Brain Freeze

I’m going on a picnic and I’m bringing apples, bananas and Troy Percival– Wait, he just gave up 12 earned runs and hit Pena in the head with a pickoff throw. Brain freeze! Make it stop! Use the following closers at your own risk.

23. Trevor Hoffman (-1) (Carlos Villanueva, Todd Coffey, Mitch Stetter)
24. Frank Francisco (-14) (C.J. Wilson)
25. Kerry Wood (-8) (Chris Perez, Rafael Betancourt)
26. Matt Capps (-2) (John Grabow, Jesse Chavez, Sean Burnett)
27. Jason Frasor (-8) (Scott Downs, B.J. Ryan)
28. Chad Qualls (-15) (Tony Pena, Clay Zavada, Jon Rauch)
29. Mike MacDougal (Joe Beimel, Julian Tavarez)
30. Leo Nunez (-4) (Dan Meyer, Matt Lindstrom, Kiko Calero, Waco My Airplane)

From Around The Web

  1. roto rooter says:
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    Sorry, duplicated from previous post: Who do you prefer for the rest of the season: Dukes or Reimold?

  2. Grey

    Grey says:
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    @roto rooter: Reimold while Dukes is terrible, but could change in a week or two.

  3. AL KOHOLIC says:
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    when is the mlb trade deadline,wanting to see if any of these closers are moving and if so,will they still be closing?reds were trying to get derosa pretty bad also,see who they target

  4. brad says:
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    @AL KOHOLIC: Yeah I was just going to ask about that. The guys I personally see as most likely to be traded are Sherrill and Valverde. I’d put Capps just below them.

    Anyone else likely to get gone?

  5. brad says:
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    @AL KOHOLIC: it’s a month from today by the way. Well, the 31st.

  6. AL KOHOLIC says:
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    @brad: possibly street,again i hope not,1 report has the huff being targeted heavy,i have him in 2 leagues and wouldnt mind him going the reds freindly skies to play 3rd

  7. Grey

    Grey says:
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    @AL KOHOLIC: @brad: July 31st, Street, Capps, Sherrill, Valverde, maybe Rodney, maybe one of the White Sox setup men goes to a team that needs a closer.

  8. Doc says:
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    Teams have agreed to Morgan/Burnett for Milledge/Hanrahan in principle.

  9. AL KOHOLIC says:
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    @brad: thank you

  10. Grey

    Grey says:
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    @Doc: Wow, thanks for the heads up!

  11. AL KOHOLIC says:
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    @Doc: interesting,sometimes just a different coach or team can turn a guy around,

  12. Doc says:
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    I’m picking up Milledge in my deep league. He’s supposed to come back from his injury soon and I can’t see the Pirates not playing him. Don’t know what might happen with Burnett since the Natinals don’t have much of a closer. Burnett’s WHIP and ERA from the last 2 years is rotten, but this year it looks ok. I’m still guessing Grabow would get the call if Capps is traded?

  13. SRM says:
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    @Doc: Do you have a shortlist of the best Twitter accounts (not sure if that’s the right term) for breaking news? I vowed to never give into Twitter, but if it helps win me my league…

    Thanks for the regular quick updates.

  14. ThePoonTycoon says:
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    when are the rangers gonna get francisco back in there closing? we all know CJ wilson isn’t worth a damn, and francisco looked fine his first couple outings before giving up 2 runs the other day raising his era over 1.00 for the season.

  15. AL KOHOLIC says:
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    @SRM: thats MR. DOC to us mortal breaking news hunters

  16. royce! says:
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    2 quick Qs:

    Is Burrell a buy low right now, or just a “pick up in deep leagues”?

    Should we expect Burnett to close in WAS? I think I’ve recovered from my last ride on the closerousel. Assuming that’s even possible.

  17. Ashley says:
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    Is Gaudin going to be hit or miss all year? Should I add him in my 10 team keeper? I’m afraid he’ll go Jorge De La Rosa on me though, so I’m kinda hesitant.

    Here is my ever-changing roster..

    Wanted – Ian Kinsler

    C Chris Iannetta (Col – C)
    1B Prince Fielder (Mil – 1B)
    2B Ian Kinsler (Tex – 2B)
    3B Mark Reynolds (Ari – 1B,3B)
    SS Stephen Drew (Ari – SS)
    OF Ryan Braun (Mil – OF)
    OF Juan Rivera (LAA – OF)
    OF Andre Ethier (LAD – OF)
    Util Russell Branyan (Sea – 1B,3B)
    BN Johnny Damon (NYY – OF)
    DL Raúl Ibañez (Phi – OF) DL

    SP Ubaldo Jiménez (Col – SP)
    SP Joba Chamberlain (NYY – SP,RP)
    SP Cliff Lee (Cle – SP)
    SP –empty–
    RP –empty–
    RP –empty–
    RP –empty–
    BN Randy Johnson (SF – SP)
    BN Edwin Jackson (Det – SP)
    BN Francisco Liriano (Min – SP)
    BN Ricky Nolasco (Fla – SP)
    BN Javier Vázquez (Atl – SP)
    BN Tommy Hanson (Atl – SP)
    BN Kevin Slowey (Min – SP)

    June 1st – I traded Adrian and my 17th rd pick for Greinke and his 11th rd pick.

    June 3rd – I traded Derek Lowe for Johnny Damon.

    June 3rd – I traded A-Rod, Andrew Bailey, and my 21st rd pick for Fielder, Vazquez, and his 11th rd pick. (Someone in my league posted “How do you disrespect A-Rod like that” but I think I’m the clear winner of that trade so far)

    June 17th – I traded Greinke and my 14th rd pick for Joba and his 14th rd pick.

    June 17th – I traded Bruce and my 18th rd pick for Morrow and his 10th rd pick.

    Dropped Morrow and claimed Liriano off waivers last week.

    I don’t really have a solid 4th or 5h keeper right now, but I have three 6th rd picks, four 7th rd picks, and only two picks after the 11th rd in a 21 rd draft.. So I plan on killing the draft next year.

    I’m interested in Correia, Gaudin, and Dallas Braden.. Should I drop RJ for one of them?

    Are there any other changes you think I should make? I’m in 1st place by 9 games.

  18. Tom says:
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    So is Burnett closing now Grey?

  19. Ashley says:
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    Greinke and my 14th rd pick for Joba and his 6th rd pick*

  20. Tarasco'sSecretStash says:
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    The other intriguing guy that could be on the move is Takashi Saito. The Sox have a friggin’ loaded bullpen and Saito’s shown himself to be pretty steady thus far post-elbow injury. He’s a nice chip for Boston to shop around…

  21. Freak says:
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    Pirates are calling up Garrett Jones because of the Hinske deal, does he get sent right back down because of Milledge or does he get some playing time?

  22. AL KOHOLIC says:
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    @Tarasco’sSecretStash: are you just thinking that,or have you heard something?

  23. I'm Keith Hernandez says:
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    markakis/hamels or kemp/lester?

  24. Corey says:
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    I wish Saito would get traded to the Braves so they could get rid of Moylan and Jeff Bennett

  25. Grey

    Grey says:
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    @ThePoonTycoon: He’s had arm issues, and gave up runs the other night. He should get the role back soon, but that’s been said before.

    @royce!: @Tom: I don’t think Burnett closes. At least not right away, if at all.

    @Ashley: Gaudin’s worth a pickup, but he’s shown a propensity to walk guys so you need to use kid gloves. Only start him at home or excellent matchups.

    Drop Randy for Correia. Only grab one Padres starter.

    Overall, your hitting is extremely stacked and your pitching’s not bad at all. For now, I think you can win it just by being smart with waiver wire pickups on starters.

    @Freak: Guess we’ll see, but looks like a bench guy.

  26. Ashley says:
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    @Corey: Moylan has pitched better lately. Our bullpen is in good shape, I just wish we’d trade another big bat.

    @Grey: Randy is the only guy I can drop.. So drop him for Correia? Or do you like Gaudin more?

  27. Grey

    Grey says:
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    @Ashley: Drop Randy for Correia.

  28. Doc says:
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    @SRM: I follow a lot of the beat writers from different MLB cities. I’m constantly unfollowing and following. @Dejan_Kovacevic is the pirates beat writer who tweeted this latest trade info. @mlbtraderumors is another good one. Once you get on there they are pretty easy to find.

  29. GTG says:
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    Who is going to take Beltre’s place at 3b? Any chance Branyan moves to 3b and Carp gets at-bats at 1b?

  30. Doc says:
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    Do you think Mujica is next in line for saves in SD?

  31. Chase says:
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    I had a feeling this was coming out today. Gracias grey

  32. Grey

    Grey says:
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    @GTG: Carp could get ABs, worth a grab in AL-Only leagues.

    @Doc: He has been the 8th inning man.

    @Chase: De nada.

  33. Doc says:
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    @Grey: Some rumors brewing on H. Bell to the Cubs. Just rumors so don’t kill the messenger.

  34. vinko says:
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    Fwiw, Encarnacion didn’t play with the Louisville Bats today. Some discussion over whether he might be back with the Reds, soon. Maybe Al can give us his input.

  35. airlifting says:
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    @vinko: they all seem to think he’ll be up friday…he’s been on my team the entire year because 3B is a black hole in my league. are the bats high-A? night games for the higher levels?

  36. BSA says:
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    @Doc: Counting on it in the RCL….as you pick up Mujica pre-Bell post?

  37. AL KOHOLIC says:
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    @vinko: @airlifting: friday it is supposedly,

  38. Doc says:
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    @BSA: Wilson pitched in the 8th the other night with the Rangers losing so I figured I could lose him. I really doubt that deal gets done, if there are even talks of one, but you never know.

  39. BSA says:
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    @Doc: Yeah like I said last night – I think you will be taking away the vulture saves award at this year’s RCL Awards Banquet.

  40. peter says:
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    @BSA: Mujica over Meredith for the closer job (potentially)?

  41. vinko says:
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    @airlifting: yes, they are AAA.

  42. Doc says:
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    @peter: Hope I didn’t start a big hub bub! Don’t drop anyone you would rather have than a decent set-up man like Mujica. I haven’t heard anything else on this possible trade. Looking like a dud.

    When the trade deadline is closing in Twitter is going to be going nuts! Not sure how to filter out the good info from the bad.

  43. Slappy McSlap says:
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    At this point, is it worthwhile to drop either Cueto or Wandy for G-money Floyd?

  44. AL KOHOLIC says:
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    @Doc: i only dropped chris perez and dotel,no worries

  45. Joe B says:
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    @Grey: Potential trade in my 10 team weekly H2H league… what do you think?

    I get J Lester and H Bell

    He gets F Liriano, C Qualls, and A Dunn

    He needs HR/RBI and and I need saves and some SP stability… if he denies it, I’m thinking about offering Danks instead of Liriano to sweeten the deal… will Bell be a closer still if he’s traded, over a guy like Gregg if he goes to the Cubs???

  46. Greg says:
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    Burnett/Garza/J Johnson for Cano. Would any of them be a fair trade. I need pitching pretty bad and I have Aaron Hill.

  47. Teef says:
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    @Joe B – Bell has proven himself as one of the best closers in baseball this year – there is no chance in hell the cubs trade for him and put him in a set up role behind Gregg.

    Personally – I can’t imagine the cubs doing that – I would think Bell has a pretty high price tag and it’s not like Gregg has been that awful – he’s serviceable enough. They should be spending their trading chips on another bat

  48. Grey

    Grey says:
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    @Slappy McSlap: Eh

    @Joe B: I like it for you. Bell should be a closer the rest of the year.

    @Greg: I’d take JJ or Garza, in that order.

  49. Greg says:
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    Thanks. Would you rather have Hill or Cano in a keeper league?

  50. Doc says:
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    @Teef: If Bell somehow went anywhere it would be as a closer.

  51. and1mcgee says:
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    so JP Howell is the Rays’ closer now? news to me…

  52. Grey

    Grey says:
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    @Greg: Tossup, I’d take Cano for track record.

  53. AL KOHOLIC says:
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    @and1mcgee: has been primarily for 2 weeks

  54. and1mcgee says:
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    didn’t Choate just get the save in the last day or two?

  55. Doc says:
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    @and1mcgee: Howell had pitched 3 nights in a row. He had the night off.

  56. struggler says:
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    Does the acquisition of Morgan on top Dukes playing more like Elijiah Wood effect Dukes value? Dukes or Drew in an .OBP league from here on out?

  57. Grey

    Grey says:
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    @struggler: Drew in an OBP league. Not sure what the first question was.

  58. struggler says:
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    Thanks – First question was missing an of. To paraphrase:
    Will the acquisition of Morgan effect Dukes playing time?

  59. peter says:
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    @struggler: Yeah, I think so: Dukes will be splitting time w/ Willingham. Until/unless Willingham/Dunn gets traded…

  60. Steve says:
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    Richmond v Rays – too risky?

  61. Grey

    Grey says:
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    @Steve: I wouldn’t.

  62. Steve says:
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    @Grey: Fair call. Belisario or Balfour? Or toss a coin?

  63. Grey

    Grey says:
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    @Steve: Coin, I’d go Belisario.

  64. peter says:
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    @Steve: @Grey: Grey’s got one of them Harvey Dent coins: Belisario’s head is on both sides.

  65. Grey

    Grey says:
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    @peter: Ha!

    @Steve: Wow, he served with Lee Harvey, weird.

  66. peter says:
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    @Steve: Airwolf!

  67. Steve says:
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    @peter: Three words. JAG (OK, that’s an acronym, but whatever). Catherine. Bell.

    If I’m not mistaken, Grey’s a bit of a fan of not-so-well-known-but-still-hot brunette actresses.

    In this case, so am I.

  68. Freak says:
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    @Steve: I like those three words.

  69. GTG says:
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    Hanley for B.Wilson/Beckham/J.Reyes?

  70. Teef says:
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    Gavin Floyd and Kevin Gregg to much to give up for Kamir?

    I offered Gregg for Kazmir straight up so seeing if he bites. If he doesn’t Im thinking I’d offer Floyd and Gregg to get Kazmir than add Latroy in anticipation that he ends up closing after the trade deadline.

  71. Grey

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    @Steve: Hmm, didn’t recognize her name.

    @GTG: I’d want Hanley.

    @Teef: It’s fine for Kaz.

  72. Steve says:
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    @Grey: You’ll recognise her (ahem) face.

    She’s the Babe That Time Forgot.

  73. Joe B says:
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    SEXY ALEXEI IN THE LINE-UP FOR THE WHITE SOX TONITE… GOOD NEWS INDEED. 20-20 guy at SS… GOLD!!!

  74. Grey

    Grey says:
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    @Steve: Oh, I didn’t say I didn’t know her. Just didn’t know her name.

    @Joe B: Nice

  75. Steve says:
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    @Grey: There’s another joke just crying out to be made here…

  76. AL KOHOLIC says:
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    @Grey: i hear ya grey,prolly why he grew the moustache

  77. Adam says:
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    Sandoval and F-Her for Reynolds, McGehee and Reimold? Need K’s after Peavy went down

  78. Bob says:
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    Would you drop Tommy Hanson or John Smoltz to pick up David Ortiz who just got waived in one of my 12 team Yahoo mixed leagues.

  79. Grey

    Grey says:
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    @AL KOHOLIC: Ha!

    @Adam: Sure, take the F-Her side.

    @Bob: I’d lose Smoltz if one, but I wouldn’t do that move unless a UTIL is what you really need.

  80. Doc says:
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    Crud

    Jake Peavy’s return is being pushed back after a re-examination of his ankle placed him back in a protective boot for two weeks.
    Peavy was hoping he’d be cleared to begin throwing and working out after the examination, but he’s now expected to be out at least five to six more weeks. Since he won’t be back in uniform until mid-August, the Padres hands’ are effectively tied in potential trade talks.
    Source: San Diego Union-Tribune

  81. Sam says:
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    Is Verlander a reasonable offer for David Wright or should I give more? The Wright owner is running away with all the offensive categories but doesnt have pitching.

  82. Grey

    Grey says:
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    @Doc: Ugh

    @Sam: It’s reasonable.

  83. Doc says:
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    @Sam: Are you sure you want to give him pitching?

  84. SRM says:
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    I thought Meyer had blown his audition yesterday, but it looks like he may have got a call-back.

    “The Marlins will continue use a matchup approach in save situations, according to Manager Fredi Gonzalez.

    Dan Meyer started the ninth inning on Monday, but Leo Nunez came on to record the final out. Nunez figures to get the majority of the save chances, but Gonzalez won’t commit to one closer.”

  85. BSA says:
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    Grey,

    Well, Tonight’ll be a first since reading your piece on sitting starting pitchers that I choose to sit Saunders. His numbers have not been lights out and his stats for tonight’s game set him up for major meltdown. We’ll see!

    Overall the strategy of play ‘em if you got ‘em has been working out well. Basically though I have been treating Saunders with an eye on his stats against teams and ballparks.

    Millwood has been out of the ordinary so I am riding him until he burns me. Hopefully, Ryan is making a difference.

  86. Steve says:
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    @BSA: Good call!

    My H2H opponent has him going so ha! ha!

    Pity he didn’t start Hill as well.

  87. BSA says:
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    @BSA: Phewww! Gotta love seeing your pitcher on the bench with INF and INF under ERA and WHIP with no outs.

  88. BSA says:
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    @Steve: Yeah, I wish I could get rid of the first month in the RCL. Tough digging out of the basement.

  89. GTS says:
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    Anyone start Baker vs. KC tonight?

  90. BigFatHippo says:
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    Does the Morgan to Washington trade do anything to decrease his SAGNOF value?

    Anyone?

  91. Grey

    Grey says:
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    @SRM: Yeah, saw that.

    @BSA: Looks like the right call.

    @GTS: I would’ve.

    @BigFatHippo: Nah, he is what he is.

  92. AL KOHOLIC says:
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    @Grey: adam jones out of the game after 1 ab????because the saux are smashing then i quess

  93. BSA says:
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    What is in the water in Florida?

    Seems neither Floridian team can pick a closer. Closer by committee worked out real well in Boston. I am sure the pens in FLA love the noncommittal management also.

  94. Doc says:
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    @AL KOHOLIC: Ran into the wall. Must not have been watching where he was going.

  95. Steve says:
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    @Doc: @AL KOHOLIC: If his profile pic is anything to go by, he probably had his eyes closed.

  96. BSA says:
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    @AL KOHOLIC:
    Nah, I think he cranked his wrist on the wall.
    Youk hit another one into the bullpen but this time Jones couldn’t hold on.

  97. AL KOHOLIC says:
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    @Doc: @Steve: @BSA: just traded him for david wright who hit a hr tonight

  98. BSA says:
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    @Steve: Yeah if anyone went by the pictures for their team Adam Jones definitely would have been left in free agency. Should have asked for another pic.
    Imagine what his driver’s license photo looks like……

    @AL KOHOLIC: That one stings.

  99. AL KOHOLIC says:
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    now if bruce can get it going for me

  100. Mr Baseball says:
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    Boot Hill for Rich. Hill

  101. and1mcgee says:
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    should I spot romero tomorrow? i need K’s and a W would be nice. he’s the only guy available who won’t kill my periphs…. or will he?

  102. and1mcgee says:
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    or i guess Pettitte vs. Seattle?

  103. PJTres says:
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    pickup milledge in a competitive 12 team league? i need an OF…

    safe to drop pierre? for milledge/burrell/sheffield? or hold?

  104. and1mcgee says:
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    or Jordan Zimmermann ?

  105. Mr Baseball says:
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    J. Rollins they should have given him another few weeks off

  106. Mr Baseball says:
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    The Brewers are considering sending Mat Gamel back to Triple-A

  107. big o says:
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    @Grey:
    +6 ??
    “you best be movin’ street up that closers’ ladder , boy . he’s the best dang closer on the planet !”
    (me … talking A ‘s shizz) .

  108. Mr Baseball says:
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    Adam Jones came out of Tuesday’s game with an apparent shoulder/neck injury.

    Jones undoubtedly had some lingering soreness after crashing into the wall while attempting to rob Kevin Youkilis of a homer in the first. He’s considered day-to-day.

  109. Schlitzy says:
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    NL Only league with a $280 cap. I am out of it and I have a chance to get Gamel at $7 for next year. What do you think about Gamels for 2010?

  110. AL KOHOLIC says:
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    anouncers ask dusty why encarnacion wasnt in the lineup tonight in minors,he said that he had played 9 games in a row,he wont join the club till at the earliest next week

  111. BSA says:
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    @AL KOHOLIC: I’m banking on Hippo needing some help at third and have him stashed in my revolving DL.

  112. BSA says:
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    Hi, my name is Brian (BSA to you) and I think I have rookie nookie for Beckham. After nail biting through his first two weeks he seems to be getting comfortable.

  113. Grey

    Grey says:
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    @and1mcgee: I wouldn’t start Romero. Or Pettitte. I’d start Zimmermann.

    @PJTres: I’d drop Pierre for Burrell if you need power instead of speed.

    @Mr Baseball: Ha!

    @big o: Oh, Big O. You’re such a homer.

    @Schlitzy: $7 is a bit too much for such an unknown for 2010.

    @AL KOHOLIC: Yeah, heard that. Haren looked phenomenal.

    @BSA: Ha!

  114. AL KOHOLIC says:
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    @BSA: does he have beltre

  115. Mr Baseball says:
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    the apparent “LIST” – found on jet web sight –

    1.Nomar Garciaparra
    2.Manny Ramirez
    3.Johnny Damon
    4.Trot Nixon
    5.David Ortiz
    6.Shea Hillenbrand
    7.Derek Lowe
    8.Pedro Martinez
    9.Brian Roberts
    10.Jay Gibbons
    11.Melvin Mora
    12.Jerry Hairston
    13.Jason Giambi
    14.Alfonso Soriano
    15.Raul Mondesi
    16. Aaron Boone
    17.Andy Pettitte
    18.Jose Contreras
    19.Roger Clemens
    20.Carlos Delgado
    21.Vernon Wells
    22.Frank Catalanotto
    23.Kenny Rogers
    24.Magglio Ordonez
    25.Sandy Alomar
    26.Bartolo Colon
    27.Brent Abernathy
    28.Jose Lima
    29.Milton Bradley
    30.Casey Blake
    31.Danys Baez
    32.Craig Monroe
    33.Dmitri Young
    34.Alex Sanchez
    35.Eric Chavez
    36.Miguel Tejada
    37.Eric Byrnes
    38.Jose Guillen
    39.Keith Foulke
    40.Ricardo Rincon
    41.Bret Boone
    42.Mike Cameron
    43.Randy Winn
    44.Ryan Franklin
    45.Freddy Garcia
    46.Rafael Soriano
    47.Scott Spiezio
    48.Troy Glaus
    49.Francisco Rodriguez
    50.Ben Weber
    51.Alex Rodriguez
    52.Juan Gonzalez
    53.Rafael Palmeiro
    54.Carl Everett
    55.Javy Lopez
    56.Gary Sheffield
    57.Mike Hampton
    58.Ivan Rodriguez
    59.Derrek Lee
    60.Bobby Abreu
    61.Terry Adams
    62.Fernando Tatis
    63.Livan Hernandez
    64.Hector Almonte
    65.Tony Armas
    66.Dan Smith
    67.Roberto Alomar
    68.Cliff Floyd
    69.Roger Cedeno
    70.Jeromy Burnitz
    71.Moises Alou
    72.Sammy Sosa
    73.Corey Patterson
    74.Carlos Zambrano
    75.Mark Prior
    76.Kerry Wood
    77.Matt Clement
    78.Antonio Alfonseca
    79.Juan Cruz
    80.Aramis Ramirez
    81.Craig Wilson
    82.Kris Benson
    83.Richie Sexson
    84.Geoff Jenkins
    85.Valerio de los Santos
    86.Benito Santiago
    87.Rich Aurilia
    88.Barry Bonds
    89.Andres Galarraga
    90.Jason Schmidt
    91.Felix Rodriguez
    92.Jason Christiansen
    93.Matt Herges
    94.Paul Lo Duca
    95.Shawn Green
    96.Oliver Perez
    97.Adrian Beltre
    98.Eric Gagne
    99.Guillermo Mota
    100.Luis Gonzalez
    101.Todd Helton
    102.Ryan Klesko
    103.Gary Matthews

  116. BSA says:
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    @Grey: My DL, who is behind door number (you name it)
    Sitting on Hamilton, Reyes, and now Encarnacion. I have been using two bench spots since we only have one DL position. So hopefully I don’t have to make any cuts for a few weeks.

  117. BSA says:
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    @AL KOHOLIC: Nah, he has Lowell. Pork just dropped Beltre.

  118. BSA says:
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    Who is going to close the door in Florida tonight?

  119. and earlier today i made a post about NOT WANTING TO START JOHAN BECAUSE I HAD A BAD FEELING…..

    f u braun

  120. MikeE says:
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    So for the rest of the season for my CI spot — Blalock or Ian Stewart?

  121. Steve says:
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    @AL KOHOLIC: Happy to see Dye have a good night. Hope he’s not using up all his good play.

  122. BSA says:
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    Why am I bothering to hold on to Ankiel?

  123. Billy says:
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    Will somebody please tell me if this is a must do in a 12 team, 6 man keeper league?

    Ellsbury (i have some SBs already) and Jose Lopez for Carlos Quentin and Chone Figgins? I feel like this is a no brainer but if it is, why is the first place team offering it to me?

  124. Dingo says:
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    These pitchers are driving me batty!

    Joba’s facing Seattle, a team with a .706 OPS against righties and the worst walk rate in the AL.
    RJ’s facing St. Louis, a team with a .662 OPS against lefties, and the 4th-worst walk rate in the NL.

    So what do they do? Between the two of them, they issue 7 walks (so far, Joba’s not out of the game yet). But who DIDN’T Randy walk in St. Louis? Mr. Pujols, who hit a 2-run bomb instead.

  125. Grey

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    @Mr Baseball: Randy Winn!?

    @BSA: Not sure on Ankiel.

    @MikeE: Stewart

    @Billy: Not really a slam dunk either way. Very risky to invest in Quentin. I’d take the Ellsbury side, by a hair.

  126. Grey

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    @Dingo: Joba’s been so inconsistent, very disappointing.

  127. big o says:
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    @BSA:
    hold on to your ankles and kiss him good-bye .
    @Billy:
    quentin is toast .

  128. Dingo says:
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    @Grey: I just wish these pitchers would appreciate the time I put into researching what should be great matchups for them. It’s like they don’t even care!

  129. Grey

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    @Dingo: That’s hilarious.

  130. Paulie Allnuts

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    @Dingo: Between Joba walking everyone, not being able to hold men on base, and Posada not able to throw anyone out, Seattle is stealing at will.

    @Tony Y: The Mets continue to play like keystone cops. Santana walked the pitcher. Then Hart hit a routine fly ball, and Fernando Martinez, who should be back in triple A, flailed at the ball while stumbling and falling to the ground. Obviously disconcerted, Santana walked Hardy on 4 pitches. He had an 0-2 count on Braun, and for some reason didn’t waste a pitch, and Braun hit a shot over the left fielder’s head. Throw to the plate goes past the catcher; Santana throws wildly to third, and Braun clears the bases. That is when I turned the channel to watch the Yankees.

    Right now, my advice is to stream pitchers against the Mets. Almost any pitcher, at any time.

  131. G-RAM says:
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    Which side does everyone prefer: Youk, Uggla, Hanson, Furcal or Tulo, Wright, and Stewart?

  132. Steve says:
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    @Grey: Murphy!

  133. Schlitzy says:
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    Andrus going all Fowler on these biches- 4SB.

  134. Steve says:
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    And why the effin’ eff didn’t A-Rod do that when Joba was in the game?

  135. Tom_Emanski says:
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    Doesn’t Ryan Madson seem like one of those guys whose ERA should be way higher considering how he’s been blowing saves galore recently? I have him and every time he blows a save, his ERA is still under 3 or something, it’s very confusing. There should be a term for this time of tormenting. I propose “ErrRA”

  136. Dingo says:
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    @Paulie Allnuts: I got ticker-teased when I saw that A-rod had homered to give the Yanks the lead until I saw that Joba had been pulled the previous inning… just two outs short of getting me a QS.

    Serves me right for rooting against my own home team.

  137. Tom_Emanski says:
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    Err…for this type* of tormenting

  138. Billy says:
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    @big o: Why do we think CQ is toast? I just read that he feels better and that he could be back right after the ASB. Is that likely just hot air? And Grey, when you say you’d take the Ellsbury said, you mean you’d rather have him, right?

  139. BSA says:
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    @big o: Yeah, like I said in earlier post. I have some DL rotations coming up and there will be an odd man out.

  140. Doc says:
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    @Billy: Just keep holding on CQ. I saw him running on the field before some game the other day. I have no idea what will happen with him, but he sure hasn’t been ruled out from returning.

  141. Lines says:
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    Does anyone know a good place to check on who’s projected to be in/out of lineups on a day-to-day basis?

    At the risk of asking yet another dumb question (maybe I just wanna talk about my kick-ass pitching staff), it’s Scott Baker I’m dumping when Bedard comes back, right? My other pitchers are: Halladay, Haren, Hamels, Lester, Cueto, AJ Burnett, Broxton, Soria, Howell and Rodney.

    In other mildly amusing news (that I should proably keep to myself), I’m going head-to-head against my girlfriend’s brother this week. I’m one game behind him in our league, and while we were watching tonight’s Sox game (we’re both from Boston), I booed Jacoby Ellsbury’s (on his team) home run. He accused me of kissing my sister, and I promptly reminded him that it’s his sister I’m… kissing. He was not pleased.

    Lastly, I will stop commenting when I’ve been drinking. That is all.

  142. Steve says:
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    @Lines: Perfectly OK to share these (actually quite) amusing things on the Razz. I was unbeaten in my H2H league until last week – when I was beaten by my sister.

  143. big o says:
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    saito’s trade value taking a hit 2nite

  144. big o says:
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    @Billy:
    color me cynical .
    i expect the foot problem to persist

  145. BSA says:
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    @big o: You know what though, in general as I have watched this bullpen, he seems to be the riskiest arm to go to out there.

    I am not shocked when he gives up some hits and runs. Whereas his penmates have been stingy and it is shocking when they have a bad night.

  146. big o says:
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    now papelbon comes in and gives up the lead .
    what a game … 8th inning still .
    sparkakis

  147. BSA says:
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    @big o: Ahhh, the baseball fan conundrum – I want my Sox to win them all, yet Sparkakis is on my fantasy team.

  148. Corey says:
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    Grey, you didn’t answer my follow up question about Butler and Cahill. WHy butlet over cahill?

  149. big o says:
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    @BSA :
    someone’s going to call in to weei tomorrow and suggest bucholz SP
    with smoltz going to close , if this keeps up .
    (not me)

  150. Corey says:
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    edit to above, Butler not butlet.

  151. Dexter says:
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    Just dropped Gamel. Would you rather have Fox or Beckham to play CI? It’s a keeper league. Thanks!

  152. BSA says:
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    @big o: The calls will happen, the move won’t.

    Yet I am sitting on Buchholz waiting for something to shake out.

  153. BSA says:
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    @Dexter: I don’t know much but I do like Beckham. He’s playing and starting to put up some numbers.

  154. big o says:
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    @BSA:
    interesting to hear THAT ANNOUNCER dump on saito for his games-man-ship … stalling etc .
    notice i did not refer to him by name .
    he should NEVER have given up that homer .

  155. Doc says:
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    @Corey: Hah! Butlet!

  156. Paulie Allnuts

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    @Steve: @Lines: Last week I beat my wife (not literally!) 8-2 in H2H. It was the classic lose/lose situation.

  157. big o says:
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    @Grey:
    i think you ought to designate the “game of the night” , so we can watch together
    and comment separately , while all on the same page .

    of course , it shouldn’t take away from your trade-talk duties .
    but , i’d like to hear what you guys are thinking … about what i’m seeing .

  158. royce! says:
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    @Paulie Allnuts: Yeah, I heard that the Mets replaced their 8th inning jam “Sweet Caroline” with “Meet The Mets.” I think maybe it’s time for them to switch out “Meet The Mets” for “Yakety Sax.” Sure would cheer me up!

    Cust kayin’!

  159. big o says:
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    @Paulie Allnuts:
    i has to quit golf … for just that reason .
    in the beginning , playing for “favors” was fun .
    but , SOMEbody turned out to be a sore loser .

  160. Mike says:
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    Anyone know why Adrian Gonzalez left the game today?

    Also, do I throw out Kershaw tomorrow against Colorado? I also have Verlander and Hamels going so I’m tempted to sit him.

  161. Steve says:
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    Oh for crying out loud – Bills gives up a two-run single to the pitcher?

  162. Dingo says:
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    @Lines: You really couldn’t have asked for a better setup!

  163. Doc says:
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    @Mike: Adrian Gonzalez injured his right knee in the fourth inning game against the Houston Astros on Tuesday night and came out of the game.

  164. royce! says:
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    @Paulie Allnuts: Your comment reminded me of one of my best/worst moments.

    In undergrad, I had a philosophy seminar with a professor who at the time I considered very feminist. One class, during a discussion (about I think Aristotle), students started talking about the “Have you stopped beating your wife?” question. I didn’t know what they meant, but kept quiet for a few minutes. Eventually, I spoke up, “What do you mean by the “Have you stopped beating your wife” question?” A friend in the class starts explaining it: “If you answer no, it means you still beat your wife… If you answer yes…” Without hesitation, I blurted out, “It means you’re a quitter?!!”

    I immediately regretted my comment.

    I then glanced over at our professor, prepared for the worst. She started laughing hysterically.

    I got an A.

    Cue Yakety Sax!

  165. Corey says:
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    @Doc: Typo! That’s probably what I’ll call him from now on though.

  166. jbatkins says:
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    I’ve been offered:

    Nick Markakis and Javier Vazquez
    for
    Johan Santana and Alfonso Soriano

    I know that, at the beginning of the year, I would be silly to give up Johan and Soriano for these two, but Johan and Soriano have both been so sketchy lately… I’m just worried I’m selling low on both and buying Vazquez high. Thoughts?

  167. mc serch says:
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    @Mr Baseball: I count 8-10 HOF type players on that list. Can’t say I’m shocked by any of the names….the list is from 2003 or so, right? Seems like a lots of Yanks and Red Sox, huh?

  168. john says:
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    Seriously Bills? Getting out dueled by Marquis? I love my former Braves as much as the next fan, but coooommmeee on!…And Dodger offense, what the hell is your problem? Its very simple, see the ball, hit the ball. One hit off Marquis is freaking unacceptable!

  169. Paulie Allnuts

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    @big o: You would have thought that all of the help I had given her in the draft, making trades, picking up FA, would come into account. For goodness sake, her team is ahead of me in the standings! All of that meant nothing, of course. She kept telling me that if I really wanted to lose, that I could bench my pitchers, play my schmohawks in place of my studs, etc. It’s two days later, and I still get “the look”.

    @royce!: Ha! One thing for sure; the Metropolitan’s lackluster farm system is being exposed. The press and the fans keep drumming up the need for a big trade, but i don’t think that they have much that any other team would want. Omar is indeed the man responsible for this mess; he signs Ollie headcase Perez when Derek Lowe was available for the same price or less, signs Castillo for a beau-coup of cash; signs brittle old men and expects them to stay healthy (the worst was Moises Alou, who actually was injured trotting back to the dugout from left field.), continues to play their studs when they are obviously hurt, jeopardizing their seasons and careers – I could go on. Right now, the Nats are playing better ball. And that’s sad.

  170. Doc says:
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    @mc serch: Pretty sure it isn’t correct

  171. hello, was offered youk for garza and wainwright…what do you think, can i afford to give up 2 SPs? id still have haren, cueto, harang, shields as my regular starters….

    I would then trade youk for alexei ramirez and possibly gavin floyd?

    would u make that 3 way trade? currently have everth cabrera at SS

    The guy taking youk is looking for depth instead of one stud SP and hes opposed to cincy SPs…..

    Thank you…

  172. Commish Cauda (formerly Mike) says:
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    *16-team, mixed, H2H-Points League*

    I’m still trying to trade for a 2B (currently Kaz Matsui)

    Trade Nelson Cruz & Leo Nunez FOR DeRosa & Ludwick?

  173. trading, not taking….

  174. jbatkins says:
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    @matthole: I’m a big Youk fan, but I think that’s too much to give up. And seeing as how you’re going to move them for Ramirez and Floyd, I really don’t like it. I think Floyd’s a downgrade from both Garza and Wainwright, and I think you’d be trading for Alexei at his highest value (he wasn’t worth squadush a month ago). I think Wainwright’s only going to be better as the season goes on.

    So, after that long-winded answer… no.

  175. Colin says:
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    Wow did Chris Sampson forget how to fkn pitch against the worst hitters in baseball? I go from getting a hold to 3 FKN ER in an inning. BRUTAL.

  176. Thanks for your insights….my MIs are so weak, kaz matsui, ian stewart, and e.cabrera…that im almost willing to do anything for an upgrade somewhere

  177. jbatkins says:
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    @matthole: I would try and trade Garza for a MI. Heck, maybe you could get Alexei for him straight up (although probably not right now). Maybe try to move Garza for someone like Miguel Tejada (I can’t believe I’m recommending him, but he has put up points…) or Freddy Sanchez.

  178. Grey

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    @G-RAM: Very close and it’s about needs, but I’d take the Wright side.

    @Steve: Murph!

    @Tom_Emanski: Hehe, that term’s pretty good. I was thinking that when Frank Francisco gave up his first runs of the year the other night. I was like, “First runs? Why isn’t this guy closing?”

    @Lines: Ha, nice story. I just check Yahoo or ESPN right before the games to see who’s starting. Dropping Baker.

    @Corey: My bad, must’ve missed it. Cahill walks people, doesn’t K that many, is very young. Butler was a good prospect and is still getting better. Plus, when it’s close, hitter over pitcher. They’re just easier to predict. Mind you, neither are great.

    @big o: I like that idea of game night. Maybe an ESPN game since everyone gets it.

    @royce!: Ha!

    @jbatkins: I’d take the Johan side by a slight margin. Close though.

    @Commish Cauda (formerly Mike): I’d take the DeRosa side, but it’s close.

  179. Simply Fred

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    @Steve: Ragging on Bills when he gave up 5 hits and notched 11Ks over 7.2 is kinda’ like kissin’ your sister–which I KNOW you didn’t do, since she beat you last weak.

  180. Simply Fred

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    edit weak to week (or was last week weak?)

  181. Corey says:
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    @ Grey: The reason I ask is because I’m in a dynasty league and I have Cahill and we can protect two players that break the rookie threshold along with our nine keepers. I would have Cahill and Anderson as those two special keepers. I guess it’s a question of who I should expect to help me the most in the future, not really this year.

  182. Mr Baseball says:
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    @Mr Baseball: Randy Winn!? – quilty only 2 homeruns this year – no more power

    Alex Sanchez – That’s how he got the 1 HR a year..

  183. Simply Fred

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    @Grey: What is wrong with Teixeira? Slugging .305 over his last 15 games, 0 HRs. This all inter-league (with the added Seattle game tonight). So, will he return to strong second half, or is he hurt (physicallly or dizzy)?

  184. Grey

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    @Corey: I’m thinking Butler will be better than Cahill in 2010. Or at least someone I’d keep over Cahill. Isn’t it a little early to be thinking about keepers though?

    @Mr Baseball: Sanchez had some of the most powerful bunts you’ll ever see.

  185. Grey

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    @Simply Fred: Think it’s just a standard slump players go through.

  186. Simply Fred

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    @Grey: Thank you, sir. I’ll sleep better tonight.

  187. big o says:
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    @Grey:
    re : game night
    if you bill it , we will come .

    i may flick away for a bit (especially if street’s closing) , but it would be nice to have a late game / late night gathering place .

    also , this is dumb …. but , tony pena or chris perez ??? saves only .

    and this is dumber (??) … i need to drop a guy , so i can put in a waiver claim …. for milton (<== not the pitcher) .

    go A 's .

    p.s. i really like that "go , cubs , go" song the fans chant in wrigley , after they win a game ….. sometimes i sing it in the pit (at work) , just to break up the monotony .
    yankees and sawx fans here in ct sometimes question my allegiance .
    screw them .

    thanking you , in advance .

  188. Lines says:
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    Thanks Grey. One more for ya. Should I drop Rodney to pick up Ryan Doumit? I know I’ll have to stash him for a week, but if he’s gonna hit like last year, it seems to make sense if it saves me from playing Brandon Inge every day. Is the wrist injury too big a concern? Am I just mad at Rodney for giving up a tater to Mark Ellis?

    Follow-up question: Why does having approval of a stranger before making a roster move in a game I play for fun make me feel so much better?

  189. Steve says:
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    @Simply Fred: Hehe.

    I only have him in H2H so while the Ks and WHIP are great, it’s always disappointing when the Win slips away.

    And the pitcher scored off him!

  190. Grey

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    @Lines: Save you from playing Inge? Why do you want to be saved from that? Hold Rodney. Not sure on the 2nd question. Displaced blame?

  191. Simply Fred

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    @Steve: Criticism deserving, when he gives it up to the pitcher. Just sticking up for Bills. Feel your pain on wins slipping away. I have high-priced pitching that is being matched by low-priced pitching in Wins. To make it worse, he’s in first, me in second.

    May your wins hold up!

  192. Steve says:
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    @Simply Fred: Oh, I love having him on my team.

    Possibly I need to stop expecting him to win every time out ;-)

  193. Prince says:
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    Think it’s time to pick up Downs again? Sounds like he’ll be back either on the 3rd or after the ASB…

  194. Grey

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    @Prince: Sure, if you have room.

  195. Prince says:
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    With a drop of Frasor I do … Thanks

  196. Steve says:
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    @Grey: What do you think of Hammel for tomorrow?

  197. Grey

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    @Steve: Away from COL? Decent 12 team start.

  198. Shmorgie S. Board says:
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    I generally find this kind of Closer report not to be useful. I mean, it’s a ranked list. I know who the good closers are and who the blechy ones are and… it doesn’t matter. If they get saves and they’re cheap or free (FA pickups), they are certainly for me. SAGNOF! for god’s sake.

    (I guess it kind of helps if you’re in some wacky shallow league and closers with jobs are on the waiver wire. But then you’re a fag who can’t even find at least 11 other fags to play fantasy baseball with, so you’re stuck with 9 other fags who have nothing better to do. WELL DONE.)

    But what IF? What if we applied some method of assessing risk of real-world trade to the list at this point of the season? Nothing fancy. You wouldn’t have to hijack some BP or Fangraphs jerkenstein to script you an algorithm. Take it easy, man, it’s cool.

    If we did, wouldn’t the Street become a Brain Freeze? Sherrill too? And also etc?

    I’m just saying, that might help people decide who to deal out of their Closer stash and cache, and who to be wary of acquiring.

    Then again, this site earns no revenue (so American contemporary, we broke yo!) and I’m up at 2:20 AM writing this. Whatever.

  199. Shmorgie S. Board says:
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    *risk of trade = getting traded to another team where they aren’t going to Close games

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