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We at Razzball realize that exporting our views across the country has damaging consequences on the blogosphere. To help make amends, we are reaching out to leading team blogs and featuring their locally blogged answers to pressing 2014 fantasy baseball questions regarding their team. We feel this approach will be fresher, more sustainable, and require less energy consumption (for us anyway). The 2014 Indians Fantasy Baseball Preview comes courtesy of Ed Carroll from Wahoos on First and co-host of the Wahoo’s on the Mic podcast.

1) I was able to to see Corey Kluber outduel Stephen Strasburg at Progressive Field last June. Kluber put up some nice numbers in 2013 (11 W, 8.3 K/9, 2.0 BB/9) which made both fantasy owners and Tribe fans alike very happy. What should we expect from the right-hander in 2014?

I’m glad you mentioned Kluber, as he was a bit of a surprise for the Indians in 2013; he wasn’t on the opening day roster, and hasn’t shown much to make anyone believe he wasn’t just SP depth fodder. I was honestly down on him too, mostly due to his age (he will pitch most of 2014 at age 28). I’m quite bullish on Kluber for 2014, at least for the Indians. I’m not sure most Indians fans, let alone causal baseball fans, realize how good Kluber was at points in the 2013 season. From May 15 until he injured his right middle finger on August 5, he was third in the AL in K/BB ratio (4.80), fourth in FIP (3.08), sixth in IP (99.2), eleventh in WHIP (1.12) and boasted an ERA of 3.07. He’s added a few notches on his fastball since he was drafted (87-92 MPH then, averages 92-93 MPH now and can get it up to 96 MPH), and has always been a bit of a strikeout pitcher in his pro-career. It looks like Kluber has blossomed late, which is great for the cost-conscious Tribe as he won’t even be arbitration-eligible until 2016, making him a cheap innings-eater with the potential to occasionally be a little more. He will never be mistaken for an ace-type, but he should at least be league-average for a few years. Unfortunately, this isn’t that sexy for fantasy owners, as most of the Kluber-love comes from advanced metrics not used in a lot of leagues. Still, I don’t think it’s unreasonable to look at his 2013 numbers and expect similar results (and assuming good health, even a slight improvement).

2) Carlos Santana should be able to get out from behind the plate even more in 2014 now that Yan Gomes is in the mix. Do you think that Santana will see an increase in his offensive production as he gets further away from the rigors of catching and starts seeing more and more at-bats as a DH/1B/3B?

Carlos Santana is the reason why I ask any fantasy league commissioner if they use OBP or batting average in their league before I join. I didn’t need for Carlos Santana to post a (so-far) career-high .377 OBP to convince me that is an offensive monster already, and hands down the best offensive player on the Indians. When he was called up in 2010, I was drinking the Kool-Aid and believing he would eventually mash 40 home runs (in my defense, it wasn’t like that 2010 Tribe season offered any other hopes), but I still think 30 is possible going forward. His defense isn’t great at catcher, at least by the metrics we know of right now, but this honestly wouldn’t even be discussed if not for the surprise emergence of Yan Gomes in 2013. Gomes is likely still a better defensive player than Santana in 2014, but I’m a tad skeptical of Gomes repeating or besting his 2013 offensive numbers (.294/.345/826, 11 HR). Including last year, Gomes has played in all of 131 games at the major league level, and has fewer than 400 at-bats (391). He was considered a throw-in when the Tribe acquired Mike Aviles from the Toronto Blue Jays (in return for Esmil Rogers), and while it’s certainly possible Cleveland may have gotten lucky, I need another season to be convinced. All of this said, Santana will almost assuredly catch fewer games in 2014 than he has in any other full year of his career, but I still expect him to don the mask at least once or twice a week. I honestly think he will continue to improve offensively regardless of where he plays defensively.

3) Danny Salazar is obviously an exciting, talented young pitcher and Razzball has him pegged as a fantasy sleeper for 2014. What obstacles (if any) will he have to overcome to take the next step forward in 2014?

Salazar had long been a sleeper prospect for the Indians, but it was somewhat surprising to see how aggressive the team was with him in 2013 as he had a full year back from Tommy John surgery. The team’s aggression was warranted, despite a strict usage limitations on the young right hander as he recovered from the surgery. The gloves will be off and Salazar will pitch 2014 without any restrictions, so this is good news for both the Indians and fantasy owners. The Indians haven’t done a ton to upgrade their starting pitching this offseason, outside of a gamble on Shaun Marcum (as I write this, there’s still a slight chance RHP Ubaldo Jimenez returns to the Tribe), which also bodes will for Salazar opening the season in Cleveland. My main worries with Salazar in 2014 will be his health (TJ surgery isn’t a kiss of death anymore, but another elbow injury could relegate him to the pen) and if his slider, a relatively new pitch for him, can remain as effective going forward as it was in 2013. For now, there’s no reason to believe the slider isn’t legit, so hopefully his health keeps up as well. Unless you’re in a keeper league, I wouldn’t fall in love with Salazar quite yet, but he’s certainly a guy to keep an eye on in late rounds.

4) Deep league/keeper league players always have one eye on a team’s prospects. Which prospect(s) from the Indians’ system do you see coming up and having the biggest impact this season?

The hot Indians prospect is appropriately 20-year-old SS Francisco Lindor, the team’s top pick in the 2011 draft, and a player who will likely be a consensus top-10 prospect in all of MLB entering 2014 (if not a top-5 prospect). He made his AA debut in 2013, playing in 21 games in Akron (19 doubles, six triples, one home run and 20-25 in SB attempts). A back injury ended his season in mid-August, but it isn’t believed to be a serious injury (Akron’s season ended a couple weeks after the injury anyways). He’s a true shortstop, and is expected to be able to be an elite defender at the Major League level, and should be well above-average offensively. All this being said, I’m not sure Lindor makes the jump to the big-league level at any point in 2014. As stated earlier, he only played in 21 games in AA and while he may end up skipping AAA Columbus completely, the Indians can leave Lindor in the minors all season and he’d still be ahead of the age-curve.

Another player who won’t see Cleveland in 2014 but whose name you should know is OF Clint Frazier. He was drafted out of high school as the team’s top pick last year at #5, and though he’s still quite far away, he could eventually be an impact major-league bat (with a decent shot to be a great Major-League hitter).

For 2014, your best bets are likely INF Jose Ramirez (who got a surprising September call-up in 2013, and could see some action at some point next season), and RHP Trevor Bauer. Bauer is a personal favorite of mine, so anything I say about him should probably be chased with a grain of salt (assuming whiskey isn’t around), but I’m still a firm believer in the potential there. He will pitch all of 2014 at age 23, which is not old by any standard (and younger with fewer professional innings than Salazar). Don’t be shocked if he turns things around next season.

5) Chief Wahoo takes a lot of heat for not being “PC”, yet it was the Tribe’s Double-A affiliate that changed their logo this year. While the Akron Rubber Ducks are certainly menacing, I bet you can do better. What’s your name for the Akron squad if you had it your way?

The Rubber Ducks name has kind of grown on me. Like most people, I thought it was kind of silly at first, but the logo is kinda cool and there’s some potential for awesome uniforms there. Part of me would love to call the team the “Akron Clevelanders” because it would drive my Akron friends crazy (though the two cities are only about 40 minutes apart, Akron is certainly not a suburb of Cleveland). I also would instantly buy a jersey if the team was known as the “Akron Replacement Players.” But for a realistic answer, I’m gonna go with a name I hope could eventually replace the “Indians” nickname in Cleveland: the Fellers. It could mean hanging with a bunch of rednecks (“I’m gonna go play cards with the fellers!”) or, more appropriately for the area, pay homage to the greatest baseball player to ever grace Cleveland or its farm system: Hall of Famer Bob Feller. The Indians certainly still honor Feller to this day (he passed away in late-2010), but the ultimate honor would be to take Cleveland’s MLB nickname from one of racism and shame into paying tribute to a man who was truly larger than life.

 

Mike also writes for TheDynastyGuru. If you’re a tweeter on Twitter he’s @643ball.

  1. Grant says:
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    PC People just want to ruin the world. Makes me sick. A school around where I live is the Estherville Midgets. Luckily they are small and suck at about everything so the PC world hasn’t got there yet, and since I don’t see them trolling the razzball site, I think it will stay safe.

    • Mike

      Mike says:
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      @Grant: ha! wow…I won’t even ask about the mascot

    • Jay

      Jay says:
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      @Grant: Is bigotry really just a ‘PC’ issue?

      • Justin Cook says:
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        @Jay:

        Wow – there’s a loaded question! How are you defining bigotry?

        • Jay

          Jay says:
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          @Justin Cook: I’m not defining it. Merriam-Webster does a better job than I.

          • Justin Cook says:
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            @Jay:

            “a person who strongly and unfairly dislikes other people”

            not sure that a team named “indians” mean i dislike native americans …

            • JRR says:
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              @Justin Cook: @Justin Cook:

              Exactly, as a Cherokee, most Indians around here detest the term “native american” I am not in the least offended by the Cleveland Indians or Atlanta Braves. I am, however, appalled at the Washington Redskins and wish they’d remove the derogatory term “Washington” from the name as it implies assocoation with liars and thieves.

            • Jay

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              @Justin Cook: A red-faced man with a head dress named Chief Wahoo certainly means the organization is using references and images of bigotry. And if they are only simply oblivious to that, not sure that’s much better.

              A team named the ‘African’s’ that had a logo of a black man eating fried chicken with a gold tooth would never be accepted today.

              The whole argument against change is nonsensical to me.

              • Crapshoot Kershaw says:
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                @Jay: since i’m pretty sure Africans tend not to eat fried chicken (at least not the ones who actually live in Africa, and haven’t left there) we aren’t really dealing with the same level of racism here, unless American Indians as a culture actually do take umbrage at having red skin (they actually do so good luck with that self-hatred if so) and/or hate being known for smiling. to be fair I really didn’t think Indians were known to have big cartoonish smiles. The racist stereotypes Jay mentioned concerning Africans are most definitely frowned upon by modern american black people, by and large. Not claiming change is nonsensical but that’s pretty serious hyperbole to compare Chief Wahoo to some of the old R.Crumb racist stereotype cartoon-type images.

      • Mike

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        @Jay: Wahoo is def being phased out around here… I dug the Fellers suggestion. It actually has a ring to it and I never heard that one before…Totally off baseball, but I was watching the original Disney Peter Pan (from 50s) with my son …if a movie came out today with NA portrayed like that there would be riots in the streets

        • gareth says:
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          @Mike: Wife’s a big Disney fan and we rewatched Peter pan recently too. In addition to native Americans, its portrayal of the female characters in the movie is a little jarring. Some of those Disney “classics” are not aging well.

        • gareth says:
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          @Mike: Mickey Rooney in “breakfast at tiffanys” gets my vote as one of most non PC moments ever In a major motion picture.

          It is actually rather fascinating to watch old movies as a reflection of how times and society have changed.

          • Mike

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            @gareth: definitely…especially old cartoons IMO. I think there is even a list of like 10 cartoons that have been banned completely since the 70s.

          • Jay

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            @gareth: Which is a great point to bring up, since I’m half-Asian.

            I find it peculiar that sports and ‘change’ rarely mix well, in all aspects. And even further, I wonder why the industry, and maybe in certain cases, the owners, are so reluctant to accept the inevitable.

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              @Jay: history of the game, blah blah blah blah. You’d think the owners would jump at the chance to Rebrand. All those fan having to re-buy the new updated merchandise.

              I’ve been torn between two different ways the Indians could go.

              1) They could stay close to what they have now and rename themselves “the Cleveland Tribe,” while updating the wahoo logo to less of a caricature and more of a respectful photo style picture of a native American. Maybe reminiscent of lou sockalelis (an early player for the tribe of native American descent). Most fans call the indians “the tribe” right now and you hear “go tribe! ” and “lets go tribe!” Way more than any “Indians” related chants. “The Cleveland Tribe” would be a relatively small transition.

              2) Go the extreme route and rename the team “the Cleveland spiders.” This was one of the original names the team had early on as well “the Cleveland blues. ” spiders is less boring than “blues” and is just a pretty fun sports name. It also opens up a ton of marketing possibilities. You are however cutting ties with ALL native American references to the team.

              It’ll be interesting to see how the organization plays this out over the next few years. They already abolished the chief Wahoo logo at their spring training facility in Arizona. And for the 2014 season all press conferences / corporate / business functions will have the “c” logo on tables instead of chief Wahoo. So it looks like a gradual phasing out so far…….

          • @gareth: Mickey rooney’s Asian caricature is so spectacularly awful in breakfast at Tiffany’s. It is almost as offensive as that 90′s song it inspired.

            • Crapshoot Kershaw says:
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              @Rudy Gamble: modern versions of this same thing
              1. martin short’s Gimminy Glick from a few years ago
              2. michael scott on the Office’s Ping (i think that was the name)
              these don’t cause riots because the characters espousing them are known idiots. as was rooney’s character. somehow, even in america, the audience gets that enough to not cause massive outrage. these characters don’t intend to project that Asians (or anybody) actually appear or act that way. Same way with the definition of libel, if what you are claiming about a person isn’t likely to be believed due to being too extreme (or cartoonish) you aren’t held to have caused character defamation.

              • Eh, I feel like the office was making fun of Michael Scott’s insensitivity and Martin Short’s Glick is knowingly over the top.

                Neither’s humor is dependent on the audience’s racism. Rooney’s is. That’s why it is so unfunny to watch now – because very few of us are racist enough to find it funny.

                • Aubrey Plaza's Pillow says:
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                  @Rudy Gamble: it’s quite possible that somebody watching Rooney’s character now would view it the same way as Glicks/Scott’s in present day, as an idiotic stereotype not indicative of actual people.

                  • I think there’s a difference. Rooney is like blackface. There is malignancy behind the caricature IMO. It is inherently racist. There is no humor there unless u don’t feel discomfort with the racist caricature. Carell/Glick is meta. It is making fun of people that are racist. I found the Carell stuff on the Office unfunny but it wasn’t be a use of a racist caricature – it is because the Michael Scott character often felt like a caricature and I didn’t find it a funny one. Rainn Wilson’s caricature was much funnier.

                    • Aubrey Plaza's Pillow says:
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                      @Rudy Gamble: dwight is seriously better. i agree that when Rooney did that character the motivation was racist, but we watching it now don’t have to view it as such (could view it same way as other, later stereotype acts); kinda like that Borges story about the guy who rewrote Don Quixote in modern times (Pierre Menard, author of the Quixote)

    • Clyde Prompto says:
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      @Grant: “Luckily they are small and suck at about everything”- I’D LIKE TO SEE YOU PLAY AN EWOK. Oh wait, you were talking about the SCHOOL. Nevermind.

    • @Grant: I appreciate your taking the time to read what I wrote, but I have to disagree this is an issue of political correcness. The Cleveland Indians are a business. I don’t know of any other national business on this scale (other than teams such as the Atlanta Braves/Barves and Washington Redskins) whose names or logos are blatantly derogitory to a group of people.

      Every opening day, there are protests outside of the stadium, holding signs proclaiming “People not mascots.” (They used to gather before playoff games or other big games, but other than some game on October 3rd, haven’t been too many of those lately lol). I saw commetor JRR state he/she is Cherokee and not offended, and I do know this person is not the only one of Native American decent to be unoffended by the name and logo. However, there are groups outside the stadium every year. People complain every year. Some people clearly find it as offensive.

      The Indians are a small-market team struggling at the gate. My question is, why would the team want to alienate ANYONE who could potentially contribute to its revenue stream?

      I just don’t get the argument that being politically correct, if that’s the case here (and I don’t think it is), is inherently a bad thing. I write for a site called Wahoo’s on First. Half my wardrobe is Indians apparell. If the team were to change the name or logo, we’d likely half to change the name of our site and I’d need some new clothes. And I know we at the site would be OK with this (and I’d be OK with new clothes) if it meant fewer people were offended by the baseball team we love.

      Again though, appreciate your (and everyone else) reading the post, and thanks to Mike for asking our site to help out. Cheers.

      (Note, apologies for the long comment, but the answer/solution really isn’t simple, as the Indians don’t even officially own their team name or mascot, MLB does. So, in theory, even if the Tribe wanted to change them both, you could still theoretically see the logo/name in a throwback uniform or somewhere else down the line if MLB willed it.)

      (Personal note to JRR – what is the prefered nomenclature if not Native Americans?)

      • Mike

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        @Ed Carroll: thanks Ed!

      • Wake Up says:
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        @Ed Carroll: You don’t find it hypocritical to name your website and podcast after a mascot that you are so strongly against?

        • Mike

          Mike says:
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          @Wake Up: In fairness to Ed, I don’t think he can control the name of the site, but I get your point

          • Wake Up says:
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            @Mike: Not trying to be unfair or attack…just simply asking…

            • Mike

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              @Wake Up: all good…I was wondering the same thing ;)

              • @Mike: yeah I had no control over the name of the site (and we recently removed the Chief Wahoo image from our logo). As for the podcast, we did have some control there but we wanted to keep with the name of the site. Both would be renamed if the team would be.

                As for me, I don’t purchase anything with Wahoo promenently placed on it anymore (haven’t for at least 3 years). I realize the team’s name is what it is at this point, and the team is my favorite as its my local baseball team. I dont ever profit off the name/logo of either the Indians nor Wahoo’s on First.

                So, nah, I don’t find it hypocritical. :)

  2. gareth says:
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    Its a given in Cleveland that when Indians news is slow the whole “chief Wahoo is racist” debate will pop up from some media outlet.

    When I got a job for the Indians, I rang to tell my mother in the UK. She first asked “does it get busy in the evenings?” To which I replied “not really” (attendance was poor due to the team rebuilding). She then asked “is the curry nice?” Huh? It then dawned on me that she thought I was working for an “indian” restaurant.

    No joke. This actually happened.

    • Mike

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      @gareth: crazy. and you are absolutely right. Cleveland sports radio is mostly Browns talk, but when they do talk Tribe, this comes up in the commentary at some point. I’m orig from Jersey, so I didn’t even think of it as a big deal until I moved out here.

      • gareth says:
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        @Mike: Yawn. Browns talk. JFOH occasionally comments on my dislike of “American Football. ” in all fairness, I’ve been in Cleveland since 2007 and if the browns can’t turn you off a sport for life, then no one can.

        • Mike

          Mike says:
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          @gareth: true….I got my Sunday afternoons back when I moved here

          • goodfold2 says:
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            @Mike: except after the whole world assuming their GM was a complete idiot for flipping T-Rich in week 3 by this end of season point he actually looks as smart as we all thought he was stupid. I’m guessing it’s sex/drugs F’ing up T-Rich’s game since he was great before. Sky knows what i’m talking about.

  3. BSea says:
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    Awesome stuff as always on Razzball. Follow-up question on Salazar. The above understandably suggests to be measured on Salazar for 2014 “unless in keeper league.” I find myself in a keeper league, and Salazar, Teheran, Gray, Cingrani, and Wheeler are going to be available. Because dynasty/keeper rankings are harder to find than standard rankings, wondering if any thoughts. Particularly between Salazar, Teheran, and Gray, if were hitching your wagon to one of them for next 5-7 years, who would it be. In that context, I am having trouble not falling in love with Salazar. Thanks

    • Mike

      Mike says:
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      @BSea: Thanks BSea…hard to go wrong with any of those guys and taking Salazar might yield more Ks…but I think Wheeler would be the guy I want of that bunch long term

      • @Mike: Yeah, I’m landing at a similar conclusion and would likely take Wheeler (though I hope I’m wrong and it’s Salazar, haha). Though there are certainly no signs (small sample warning) yet of Salazar’s slider becoming ineffective, if it does, he becomes a two-pitch pitcher (albiet two good ones). When he was coming up, pre-TJ surgery, it was a question of if he would stick as a starter, and the slider has silenced those talks (and likely accelerated his acent) for now. But another injury or if the pitch regresses (or hitters just figure it out), he could factor more as a high-leverage reliever (but not likely a closer, to keep his arbitration costs down).

    • Mike

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      @BSea: just realized you narrowed it down to three minus Wheeler…in that case, I like Teheran, Salazar, Gray in that order

      • BSea says:
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        @Mike: Thanks Mike and Ed. As you say, all would be nice additions. Salazar’s and Gray’s peripherals are fantastic (at least based on their 2013), and Teheran has proven success over a full season (even though some struggles vs. lefties) rather than over just 50-60 innings. I probably should dig in on Wheeler a bit more. Really looking forward to the SP rankings coming after outfielders to see where these guys sit, although know emphasis is not on dynasty/keeper value. Thanks again!

        • Mike

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          @BSea: anytime

  4. Mike

    Mike says:
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    Personally, I’m just excited for the first Firestone “Used Tire For Kids Under 12 Giveaway Night” at the Rubber Ducks games

  5. Sky

    Sky says:
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    I don’t know why everyone is hating on PC people. Macs are really expensive.

    • Mike

      Mike says:
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      @Sky: I think we have a winner…

  6. Wake Up says:
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    First, nice discussion about the mascot going on here.
    I’ll add a few things.
    Comparing an Indian headdress to fried chicken and gold teeth is nonsensical.
    So, should Breakfast at Tiffany’s be banned? Or just criticized?
    When I lived in Sweden, there was many different shades of people there. When I first arrived, I quickly became friends with a very dark-skinned fellow. I forget how it first came up, but after some time, we started to talk about whether or not he was an African-Swede…Swedish-African…Afro-Swedish…and so on. They all seemed equally silly to him. He said no, I’m just Swedish. I was born here in Sweden. My mom and dad were both born here in Sweden, we are all Swedish. We love it here and we are very proud to call ourselves Swedish. I guess that I may be veering a little off course, but I also recently heard on the national news that Nelson Mandela was the first ever African-American President of South Africa. Think about that for a minute.

    • Mike

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      @Wake Up: 1. the song should definitely be banned
      2. In real life I’m a teacher, and to go along with your Swedish comment, I agree, because it’s been my experience that kids’ default settings are really to be cool with each other and not see differences. Somewhere along the line (IMO mostly what they hear at home) that changes or stays the same depending on what attitudes they are surrounded by. The fact that we even discuss these kinds of things and look back on old prejudiced ideas as dated is a good step in the right direction.

      • Wake Up says:
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        @Mike: 1. That’s funny!
        2. I completely agree with you about kids. It’s not just at home though. It’s the culture here too, to be divisive, unfortunately. My foreign experience was meant to share that it is not the culture in many other places. Kids seem to know this intrinsically, as you said.
        The fact is, that race is simply a cultural construct. This is not my opinion, it is fact. I also agree that it is important to look back and criticize and discuss. In my opinion, another step in the right direction is to drop all the hyphens. That was all I was getting at.

        • Mike

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          @Wake Up: 1. ha, I piggybacked off of Rudy’s earlier comment about that awful tune 2. yup…kids don’t know about hyphens until somebody points them out. One of the reasons it’s really cool to work with kids on a daily basis :)

          • Wake Up says:
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            @Mike: Good on ya…great to have a discussion like this on a FBB site…I’ll say it again a lot of good, smart people round these parts…

    • Jay

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      @Wake Up: Is it? I think it’s a fair comparison. The rest just feels like a strawman.

      • Wake Up says:
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        @Jay: Not sure that Indians/Native Americans view their headdress as a negative stereotype…so, yeah it is nonsensical…

        Not sure if you are clear on what a strawman is…

        1. I made no argument, nor tried to persuade anyone else, on whether or not to keep the mascot. I simply shared a real world experience that I had regarding race.

        2. Thank you for calling my real world experiences made-up exaggerations.

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          @Wake Up: do a quick google image search for chief wahoo Jew and some drawings of the logo as other stereotypes come up. Kinda puts it in perspective.

          The name of the team, I think, is fine. But it’s pretty clear that logo is offensive. Plus… As a white middle class dude who doesn’t have to ever worry about stereotype. I tend to follow the oppinion of the people who are being offended… And it’s pretty clear the actual native Americans don’t like it. So that is good enough for me.

          • Wake Up says:
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            @Bubba gump: I asked the CLE blogger why he named his Webcast after a Mascot that he was strongly against.

            I never said that I agree with the mascot.

            Then, Mike and I had a much broader discussion about race…where I tried to take it a step further to say that I don’t believe in classifying ourselves by race at all, period. Race is a cultural construct with no scientific basis. I think Mike understood what I was saying…and hopefully, so did a few other people. Unfortunately Jay thought that I was trying to make a strawman argument for the Mascot, when that was not the case, as I tried to explain.

            Again, I am not defending the mascot.

      • Wake Up says:
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        @Jay: And since you brought up flaws in logic, I have to mention…”I’m half-Asian”
        When discussing Breakfast at Tiffany’s…it really isn’t relevant whether or not you are half-Asian.
        You could have just as easily said that you were half-Irish and it would have been equally irrelevant.
        For it to hold weight, one would have to assume that all half-Irish have the same opinion.
        That the half-Irish also speak for Japanese-Americans.
        That being half-Korean is the same as being Japanese-American.
        All Japanese-Americans have the same opinion.
        And all half-Asians have the same opinion…
        This is what is known as a Red Herring.
        I’m still working on my written tone…so, I want to be clear that I don’t mean this to be unnecessarily argumentative…
        just food for thought…

  7. s_t_w says:
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    I was wondering how the name “Cleveland Rockers” would go over. They could make a big weekend festival out of some home games tied in with inductions to the Rock and Roll Hall of Fame, include a classic car rally ( classic cars and rock ‘n roll mix kinda well) and just have a heck of a good time with the whole thing. Not sure when inductions to the RnRHOF occur, but I’m sure they could be done some time in baseball season.

    • Mike

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      @s_t_w: that’s a cool idea

      • @Mike: lol, not a bad idea but unlikely, as the Rockers was the name of Cleveland’s WNBA team (when they had one). Bet the NBA still owns the trademarks on that one.

  8. BTW, should say, *my views are not necessarily that of Fansided or Wahoo’s on First #legalese

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