During our 2010 fantasy baseball rankings, we’ve gone over so many flippin’ players I’ve lost track.  This is, I believe, the top 60 starters for 2010 fantasy baseball, but you’re best to check the title to be sure.   If it is indeed the top 60 starters, then you’re in luck.  Only a few more top 20 rankings posts.  What is it, February?  March?  Why don’t I have an app for this?  Or do I want a hashtag?  App ‘n Hashtag would be a good name for a 50s style diner with wifi.  As with the other rankings posts, tiers and my projections are mentioned.  Anyway, here’s the top 60 starters for 2010 fantasy baseball:

41. Clay Buchholz – This is a continuation of the last tier on the top 40 starters for 2010 fantasy baseball post.  This tier ends at Strasburg.  I call this tier, “Fliers that I’m willing to give a chance.”  Some might be confused by Cueto ranking before Buchholz, so let’s compare those two.  As linguists intended it, we’ll go B before C.  In 2009, K/9 — 6.65 vs. 6.93, BB/9 — 3.52 vs. 3.20, 25 years old vs. 23 years old, 190 2/3 career MLB innings vs. 345 1/3 IP.  2010 Projections:  14-9/3.95/1.34/155

42. Ervin Santana – Ervin’s 2009 was similar to Scott Baker’s.  He came out of spring training with an arm injury, but, unlike Baker and Stella, Ervin never found his groove.  This late in drafts I’m willing to overlook Ervin’s Gorilla Ponson impersonation last year.  2010 Projections:  15-8/3.75/1.28/185

43. Neftali Feliz – Already went over my Neftali fantasy.  2010 Projections:  9-6/3.30/1.26/120 in 20 starts.

44. Jorge de la Rosa – His appearance in this tier is solely because of his Ks.  Don’t believe me?  Throw your computer out the window, there’s no talking to you.  And to think we were friends.  2010 Projections:  12-9/4.15/1.34/200

45. Brett AndersonBrett Anderson, the future ace, is not without caveats in 2010.  Innings jump was big in 2009.  The reason why I’m willing to take a late flier on him instead of, say, Hanson is because Anderson will come much cheaper in drafts.  Second caveat, Anderson really only had two months where he looked like an ace.  Though those two months were in the 2nd half.  If Hughes is in the rotation, I would switch these two.  So, I would take a shot on Anderson late, but I’d also be aware of the risk.  2010 Projections:  10-11/3.70/1.27/165

46. Phil Hughes – Won’t know until spring training, but my guess is it will be Joba in the rotation and Phil Hughes as a top 20 middle reliever.  Even if Hughes gets the starting spot, I could see him being limited on a strict innings count.  2010 Projections:  10-4/3.50/1.22/130 in 130 innings.

47. Joba Chamberlain – About time the Yankees take the ignition lock breathalyzer off the steering wheel and let Joba take his arm out for a drive.  Or put him in middle relief.  As of post time, it’s not clear yet.  2010 Projections:  9-6/3.85/1.34/160

48. Stephen Strasburg – Already went over my Strasburg fantasy.  The reason why I have him after Feliz is because of the kid gloves the Nats are going to be using with him.  The reason why I have him above some known commodities is because if he somehow breaks camp with the Nats, you’ve won the draft lottery.  Right after the announcement, you’d be able to trade Strasburg for a tidy haul.  Say, Billy Butler.  Now twirl your mustache!  2010 Projections:  6-8/3.65/1.27/110

49. Edwin Jackson – This is a new tier.  This tier goes from here until Romero.  I call this tier, “Guys that I’m not drafting, but might pick up on waivers during the season if the opportunity presents itself and it probably will.”  When Edwin Jackson was traded, I said I might own him in the right circumstances.  I’m officially retracting that.  On closer inspection, I don’t want anything to do with him outside of matchups.  I was clouded by the thought of facing the Giants and Padres, but he was far too lucky last year.  I don’t think Edwin will be quite the 2nd half pitcher he was last year — 5.07 ERA — but I think that’s closer than the pitcher he was in the first half — 2.52 ERA.  Wouldn’t be shocked to see him have completely ownable stretches, but overall meh.  2010 Projections:  10-12/4.15/1.36/140

50. Joe Blanton – I owned Blanton for a good stretch last year.  Looking at my active stats, in 81 2/3 innings, Blanton gave me 6 wins, 3.31/1.18/59.  Awesome, terrific, adjective, but Blanton’s a pitcher you get off waivers.  You don’t draft Joe Blanton.  2010 Projections:  14-12/4.25/1.32/140

50 1/2. Jair JurrjensUPDATE:  Meesa tinks Jar-Jar having an MRI in the preseason is reason enough to ignore him.  Then throw in potential regression and it’s not worth the ulcer.  2010 Projections:  10-9/4.35/1.22/110 in 160 innings

51. Scott Kazmir – The Angels are planning on Kazmir filling in Lackey’s spot in the rotation.  Injury risk — check!  Falling K-rate — check!  Overrated for fantasy — we have a winner for the crapfecta!  2010 Projections:  14-9/4.30/1.38/145

52. Derek Lowe – The days of being able to own Lowe from start to finish look to be over.  He’ll have matchups appeal here and there, but you don’t want to draft him.  2010 Projections:  12-11/4.15/1.35/100

53. J.A. Happ – Meh K-rate, high walk rate, bad home park, lucky BABIP, insane amount of men left on base… Mr. Caps Lock says, “HAPP WAS THE LUCKIEST PITCHER IN THE MAJOR LEAGUES LAST YEAR.”  At some point it will Happen.  You don’t want to be there when it does.  2010 Projections:  12-10/4.35/1.32/155

54. Rick Porcello – A below 5 K-rate and a 45 inning bump from ’08 secures his place in the Do Not Touch tier.  2010 Projections:  9-12/4.15/1.32/75

55. Daisuke Matsuzaka – I gave up on Dice-K after his unbelievable 2008.  And by unbelievable I mean improbable, not superb.  2010 Projections:  10-7/4.50/1.38/150

56. Joel Pineiro – I’d recommend you hire Gary Glitter as a babysitter before advising you to draft Pineiro.  2010 Projections:  11-10/4.15/1.34/90

57. Randy Wolf – One the hardest things about doing these rankings is going over guys that treated you so well last year then having to write about how you don’t want any part of them in the new season.  When Wolf was traded, I said, “In 2009, Miller Park played as a pitcher’s park, but it’s more neutral than that. It’s no Coors, but it’s also no Metco.  Either way, Wolf was fortunate to have a 3.23 ERA last year and probably shouldn’t be counted on for anything below a 3.90.  Ownable, just not terrific.”  And that’s me quoting me!  2010 Projections:  14-12/4.05/1.20/155

58. Ricky Romero – To be totally honest, I almost put Romero in a tier with guys I would draft, but in the end, he’s not especially dominant, he’s in a tough division and he’s injury prone.  In an AL-Only league, I’d draft him, but in mixed leagues, I’d stay away.  2010 Projections:  9-13/4.50/1.48/155

59. Tim Hudson – This is a new tier.  This tier goes from here until Correia.  I call this tier, “Boring, but ownable.”  On one hand, Hudson’s a reliable vet with a mid-3 career ERA, while a little light on Ks.  On the other hand, Hudson is returning from Tommy John surgery.  That brings with it risk similar to playing with your iPasties app near Carl Monday.  Face it, there’s really no sure2 thing this late.  2010 Projections:   13-5/3.55/1.32/145

60. Kevin Correia – The first HodgePadre to make the starter rankings.  This goes without saying but it’s not going to be a fun year to watch the Padres.  Depressing, actually.  They should broadcast every game with Warren Zevon’s Keep Me In Your Heart playing in the background.  2010 Projections:  10-12/3.65/1.28/135

  1. Steve says:

    This probably goes a little bit to the discussion about pairings and what you want out of your #2, #3, #4 etc starter, but who do you see as being this year’s Derek Lowe?

    You know, the boring set-and-forget guy you draft in Round 12-15 to stabilize your rotation. At first glance, Hudson could fit the bill, but the TJ surgery is a worry.

  2. Grimlock says:

    “Awesome, terrific, adjective, but Blanton’s a pitcher you get off waivers. You don’t draft Joe Blanton”

    Grey, could “Blanton Goggles” be a term for giving the proverbial draft “time of day” to a player who you could actually have for free? Maybe the name of a crappy player that rhymes better with beer?

    Hmmm…”Aybar Goggles”? “Buehrle Goggles”?

    We could also use “Deer Goggles” as a term for drafting guys like Jack Cust late to pick up a few cheap home runs. I think this has potential. Discuss amongst yourselves.

  3. Grimlock says:

    Awww…crap. I forgot about Beerer Goggles! Although “Deer Goggles” might still be a useful addendum or corrollary.

  4. Tony says:

    glad to see the new post, i get bored over weekends…. lol

    so you advise drafting strasburg late as a trading chip? I know personally i have a rookie whore in my league, he loves em, he’d be a good trade partner, if i beat him to strasburg in the draft lol….

    So lets say its round 20 and you’ve got to pick Strasburg or Heyward, who do you take? heyward naturally because he’s the hitter? which do you think returns better fantasy value in 2010?

    Strasburg could be one of those guys you let him pitch a game, he cueto’s it and then you sell as well… one good game and he could be a golden ticket to willy wonkas fantasy land….

  5. ThePoonTycoon says:

    @Steve: i thought derek lowe was that last season when i drafted him as my #4/#5 SP.

    @Tony: tough one, i would lean heyward (especially in a keeper) because i favor hitters over pitchers. also, if heyward gets the starting job, he’ll be playing every day, whereas in the 2nd half the nats aren’t gonna shy away form skipping starts or outright shutting strasburg down later in the season.

  6. ThePoonTycoon says:

    as for another padre, what’s the projections on mat latos? he’s gotta have the most upside of any of the hodgepadres. i was planning on him as a guy i look at way late to take a flier on.

  7. PJtres says:

    @ Grey…in a keeper league

    would you deal votto/rollins to get hanley?

  8. Ian says:

    Keeper dilemma. Need to keep 2 out of the following 3 in a 13 team roto league. Custom scoring R, HR, RBI, TB, SB, AVG, OPS. Start a CI and an MI…

    Howard- Rd. 1
    Votto- Rd. 7
    Sandoval- Rd. 14

    I have the last pick and I know for a fact that if I don’t keep Howard he will be gone by the time I pick. That could force me to take someone like Sizemore or Holliday with my first pick because of the guys that are being kept by other teams. However, I’m also worried about scarcity at 3b. Ideally, I would keep Howard and Votto and take Wright in Rd. 2, but I’m worried he will be kept or taken by then. That would leave me hoping to grab Zimmerman or Youk in Rd. 4 but I worry that they will be gone by then. Do I keep Sandoval just to avoid this problem? Let me know what you think.

  9. Tony says:

    @PJtres: thats a tricky one i’ll be interested to see what grey says…. what replaces votto then is my Q?

  10. majortommy19 says:

    @PJtres: Would not even think twice about it. You could draft Billy Butler and get nearly the same production as Votto and Hanley would trump Rollins in every category!

  11. majortommy19 says:

    Hey Grey was just wondering if the Braves planned on using Medlen out of the pen and if so is there any chance he closes? I know they signed Wagner and Saito this off season. Also, where do you think guys like Matusz and Tillman would fall in? They gotta be better than some of these schleptards!

  12. PJtres says:

    @ Tony: i would have to find someone else…these are for my keepers going into the draft…i get to keep 6…
    utley, kemp, felix, youk, votto, rollins were my 6…i dont really have a suitable replacement on my squad but i could trade pre-draft for someone else.

    @majortommy19: thats what i was thinking..i think its a fair deal either way though…well see if this league lets it through. they are a very, very trigger happy bunch on the veto button.

  13. big o says:

    disturbing news ….. marlins going after kevin gregg .

  14. Nate Marcum says:

    @majortommy19: In response to Matusz and Tillman, I have seen Matusz go as early as round 15 to being undrafted. Tillman has been about the same. I think both have upside, so you should be able to snag them late. I might try and target one of them in a keeper league, but I hate taking fliers on young pitchers in the AL East.

  15. Ian says:

    Does Sheets now belong somewhere in the top 40? I know you did a write up on him after the signing, but I think the top 40 came out before that. You called him a #3 starter (when starting 30 games) which would presumably put him somewheres in the top 40. Agree? Or does his health status knock him in the “top 80” post?

  16. greenmountaincoffee says:

    @Grey; You mention Happ as being very lucky. What are typical avg BABIP and strand rates for pitchers. Would you consider Tommy Hanson as having been very lucky?

  17. Tony says:

    @PJtres: i really like that hanley/butler idea…. especially if this is long term keepers, getting rid of rollins would be ideal. As for the trigger happy veto guys my league use to be like that, UPROARS use to begin from trades being vetoed or going thru. We basically had to say that everything goes thru as long as its not collusion or outright stupidity. We (me) just listed multiple examples in the past few years where a deal went down, multiple complaints were said, and then the other team ended up on the better side of the deal. I use to be a major complainer on trades, but i’ve wised up, what looks good now might not be in a month or by years end. A 2 for 1 like this should not even be considered for veto.

  18. majortommy19 says:

    @PJtres: I like Votto but there will be guys that can come close to replicating what he does that are available. Heck even Nick Johnson would be a good play at first late in the draft. There is nobody like Hanley.

  19. majortommy19 says:

    @Nate Marcum: Yeah, would be nice if they played in NL west! I am sure I am going to take them early in my keeper.(smoke screen for those in my league who read razzball, you know who you are and you know who I am)

  20. Critter Nagurski says:

    What I’m taking from all of these SP rankings is this: Pitching is deep as hell this year. There are so many pitchers after your top 20 that I’m comfortable going to the mattresses with (I mean that both in the Italian mafia way and the sexual way) I think a draft strategy is obvious this year.

  21. Grey

    Grey says:

    @big o: I didn’t understand what you were talking about in the last post’s comments. You need my go ahead for what? If you’re asking me to be in a league for money, I’m not doing that. It’s all fun and games until there’s money involved. I feel like we went over this last year too. You do what you want, but I’m not being involved where there’s money changing hands.

    @Steve: Hudson and Correia and there’s a few in the next 20. There’s not a whole lot this year though.

    @Grimlock: Yeah. Beerer Goggles. Plus, beer goggles and paying for free mints seem like different things. Not sure if it works, but I’m open to being convinced.

    @Tony: Heyward wouldn’t be the trading chip that Strasburg would. So if you don’t know if either will break camp, I’d draft Strasburg to trade and Heyward to actually make the team.

    @ThePoonTycoon: He’s coming in the top 80.

    @PJtres: Sure, it’s fair, but it’s not a slam dunk. Be nice if you had some depth at keepers.

    @Ian: Why not keep Howard and Sandoval?

    @majortommy19: Medlen will start in the pen, but he’s not closing, Matusz and Tillman are last round fliers.

    @big o: That is disturbing.

    @Ian: I’m not endorsing Sheets. He’s too injury-prone.

    @greenmountaincoffee: Around .300 BABIP, around 70% LOB, a little bit on Hanson.

    @Critter Nagurski: Yeah, you could probably get away with that just about every year, if you draft well.

  22. big o says:

    you ought to be aware that some of us would consider it a privilege to be in a league with you .
    a small honorarium , for that privilege , would just be our way of saying “thanks for the memories” .

    nobody’s making money , here , except you .
    and you wouldn’t even have to win the thing .

    thought i try .

  23. Jarrad says:

    Hey, Grey, were you yankin’ my crank last week when you told me not to draft a pitcher until Hudson’s tier since I have Halladay and Wainwright as keepers? Seems like the talent from #59 and on might be a bit week, and, like you, I’m a bit iffy on Wainwright…

    (Just as a refresher, I’ve got Votto, Sandoval, and Ells, too.)

  24. Tony says:

    @Grey: grey do you not play in any money leagues? I personally dont play in any leagues that dont have at least a $25 buy in. I just find its easier for people to stop paying attention if there’s nothing on the line other than pride. Plus I just invest too much time to not get paid for my effort!

  25. big o says:

    thought i’d try

  26. Grey

    Grey says:

    @big o: I also feel like there’s a conflict of interest. Am I telling you to grab a guy right after I pick them up or right before?

    @Jarrad: I wasn’t yanking your chain, but Hudson moved since I told you that. I juggled my own rankings behind the scenes. Anyway, Hudson was above Cueto when I told you that. So I’d take someone in the Cueto/Buchholz flier tier. So I’d wait until the end of the top 40.

    @Tony: Yeah, all of my oldest leagues are money leagues.

  27. JoeC says:

    @Critter Nagurski: Au contraire! I don’t see pitching as very deep this year at all. Look at what Grey is actually saying about the 40 to 60 guys… he doesn’t seem to like just about any of them.

    This is not to say “draft pitching early”, but there has to be some validity to the “I’ll zig while everyone else zags” theory. Still pondering it in my own mind though.

  28. Jarrad says:

    Alright, cool! I was getting a lil’ worried there. Thanks for the clarification…

  29. Real Tom says:

    Grey, ESPN just did their first mock draft with all their so-called ‘perts, though Ravitz and others shouldn’t count. Anywayz (as a 7th grade girl would say), it’s actually quite entertaining, and leaves a lot to talk about.

    You should provide a little commentary on best value/worst value.

    ie: Reynolds at 39?, Crawford at 7? (Ravitz is a moron), Berkman at 64?, HAMELS and BILLINGSLEY in 10th and 11th round sounds effing value, but is that likely?

  30. Eddy says:

    @big o:
    PLEASE tell me this is bull. Where’s the source? I hated Gregg the 2 years he was on our squad. Ugh.

  31. Grey

    Grey says:

    @Real Tom: Yeah, I’m debating it. They’re so out of touch, it’s real wonky.

  32. Frank Rizzo says:

    Interesting…..the A’s and Reds just traded. A’s give up Aaron Miles and a player to be named for Willy Tavares and Adam Rosales. This pretty much makes Drew Stubbs the man in CF for the Reds. Bump up in stats?

  33. Grey

    Grey says:

    @Frank Rizzo: I had his projections already as if he had the job, though now there’s less risk he loses it. BTW, Beane trades for Taveras, who are you Billy Beane?

  34. Frank Rizzo says:

    @Grey: wth are the a’s going to do with all those retreads they’re bringing in? Sheets, Kouzmanoff, Crisp, Jake Fox, Tavares? What crappy mishmash that is.

  35. Frank Rizzo says:

    @Frank Rizzo: almost forgot, gabe gross about to sign with A’s too.

  36. Stephen says:

    @Grey: Must be Dusty Baker in disguise.

  37. Grey

    Grey says:

    @Frank Rizzo: Doesn’t seem like Beane’s putting together a team as much as a late July garage sale.

  38. Tony says:

    @Real Tom: @Grey: i’d be interested in seeing some commentary on that draft as well. There’s a million mocks done, but one from espn should be pretty quality, and some of those picks were just bonehead picks if you ask me…. I’m trophguy in the comment section if you’ve read any of that hahahahah…. i actually suggested one poster look at razzball.com and the fantasy cafe which I think has some really great insight.

    I’m not a fan of Mark Reynolds going in the 2nd round, but how does he slide to 39? Even in a 10 teamer… IDK i was just wow’d by some of the picks.

  39. Mikey boy324 says:

    Grey Ive noticed you don’t have danks or Floyd in your top 60 wouldn’t you rather have em over guys like blanton and happ?

  40. Grey

    Grey says:

    @Mikey boy324: Sure with Floyd. But it’s hard for me to draft an AL pitcher that late.

  41. majortommy19 says:

    @Frank Rizzo: Makes The Pride of New London ,Rajai Davis worthless also, as he and Taveres are basically the same player.

  42. majortommy19 says:

    @Mikey boy324: I just noticed that as well. Seems strange to leave them out let alone behind Porcello, Romero, Dice-K and Kazmir!

  43. royce! says:

    Aw man, I was getting excited about the 2010 Padres! Once they gave all the kids a chance they seemed to take off — 33-25 in Aug & Sept, I think. Now, I don’t think they’ll take the division, but I do expect better results than 2009.

    Probably just some cognitive dissonance at work though…

  44. Cheese

    Cheese says:

    Grey, in my league we have no bench spots, nor are we allowed to bench starters. You recommend a lot of pitchers to start based on match-ups. If you were in my league, would you still own Padre pitchers if you couldn’t just use them at home?

  45. Howie says:

    @Grey: So for those of us in traditional Roto Auctions, is this good year to weight the auction software “LIMA-like” (i.e., 76% hitting, 24% pitching)?

  46. Grey

    Grey says:

    @royce!: Yeah, or maybe delusions of grandeur.

    @Cheese: No, I wouldn’t. I’d try and get better starters, unless there’s a lot of guys on waivers and you can switch them at willy-nilly.

    @Howie: In auction leagues, I go about $100 for pitching with a $260 budget.

  47. PJtres says:

    @ grey…
    in a 16 team keeper, would you rather have

    if you were offered greinke/quentin for felix

    would you take it? we get tagged 5 points for losses, but get 10 points for wins and 4 points for quality starts…

    seems like greinke’s opp. to get wins will be limited on KC, and that maybe felix’s opp. to do the same would be greater???
    just checking in

    as usual, thanks for the advice.

  48. Grey

    Grey says:

    @PJtres: I’d want the Greinke side.

  49. MrPittsSox says:

    Wondering if your SP rankings would be any different for a H2H league as opposed to Roto?

    I realize that you already only start some guys at home and so on, but would you lean more heavily towards the higher upside/downside guys over the set and forget stalwarts in a H2H since Roto usually rewards consistency?

    Also who would you keep if you could only keep one
    J. Johnson/A. Ramirez?

  50. MrPittsSox says:

    that’s Aramis not Alexei…hahahaha

  51. majortommy19 says:

    @MrPittsSox: Only a real tool would keep a pitcher over a quality bat like Ramirez(who plays a premium position and oh by the way check his #’s after he got back from injury)

  52. really the real Tom, for real says:

    @MrPittsSox: Alexi Ramirez is garbage! Feel bad for anyone keeping him!

  53. MrPittsSox says:

    You make a good point but I wanted Grey’s take…

  54. Grey

    Grey says:

    @MrPittsSox: Aramis… I wouldn’t change SP rankings for H2H.

  55. royce! says:

    @Grey: Yeah, I guess it must be pretty bad for Padres fans when dreaming of getting closer to .500 is (correctly) deemed delusions of grandeur.

    I’ll just take solace in the fact that if I attend 3 games, chances are I’ll see at least one win. And they reduced the hot dog prices, so there’s that too!

  56. JoeC says:

    @Frank Rizzo: Kouzmanoff is not a retread. Neither is Fox. Crisp, Taveras and Sheets, sure, but they came pretty cheap, so why not take a chance?

    It looks like the A’s are emphasizing pitching (Sheets), speed (Taveras, Crisp, R. Davis) and defense (Kouz, Crisp). Certainly different from their strategy in past, but sometimes after dancing with the donkey you rode in on, you want a new donkey.

  57. Grey

    Grey says:

    @royce!: Or maybe a tie.

    @JoeC: Why does the word donkey always make me laugh?

  58. JoeC says:

    @Grey: Probably because a donkey has never eaten a human. Like, you can laugh at great white sharks, but it’s a hollow laugh.

  59. Mikey boy324 says:

    Grey I def agree that in the later part of the draft you def should go nl over al any day but I see floyd in the same category as an Ervin Santana I’m just curious what you think of floyd cuz he’s some1 I’m a lil high on this year

  60. Grey

    Grey says:

    @JoeC: Maybe, I think it’s the K sound.

    @Mikey boy324: I like Floyd, he’ll be in the top 80 starters coming tomorrow.

  61. royce! says:

    @Grey: Ha! I’m totes LOLing! Or at least I think I am… I’ll have to ask my 14 year old niece and get back to you.

    @Steve: Also totes LOLing at this.

  62. Eddy says:

    Hey Grey just did a Yahoo, 12-team, 5×5 mock. what do you think?
    C Miguel Montero R14
    1B Mark Teixeira R1
    1B Kevin Youkilis R2
    SS Elvis Andrus R15
    SS Alcides Escobar R21
    3B Ian Stewart R10
    OF Adam Lind R4
    OF Curtis Granderson R5
    OF Nick Markakis R6
    OF Jay Bruce R12
    OF Nolan Reimold R17
    SP Felix Hernandez R3
    SP Ricky Nolasco R7
    SP Jake Peavy R8
    SP Scott Baker R11
    SP Ervin Santana R16
    SP Johnny Cueto R19
    SP Kevin Correia R20
    RP Heath Bell R9
    RP David Aardsma R13
    RP Leo Nunez R18

  63. Grey

    Grey says:

    @Eddy: Nice team, probably would take a 4th reliever vs. a 7th starter, but that’s a small quibble. I wouldn’t take Youk in the 2nd round, but it worked out for you. Again, it’s a small issue. Not loving Peavy there, but you have so much pitching that doesn’t really matter either. Love the Andrus and Alcides picks that late.

  64. Eddy says:


    Yea i caught some heat for reaching for Youk, but I managed to balance it out. I just have that “Need a 1B/3B duo before end of 2nd” mentality.

    And agreed on the Peavy note. He was my leats favorite pick of the draft. I panicked because I was eyeing Bills the whole way then he got swiped one turn before me. Oh well.

    I’ll take note on the 4th reliever tidbit. That last SP pick was a throwaway more than anything.

    thanks for your thoughts!

  65. Eddy says:

    btw would you prefer that 4th reliever to be a “Brain Freeze” closer or a setup man that could strip away the closer title off someone?

  66. Grey

    Grey says:

    @Eddy: Brain Freezer.

  67. big o says:

    ken rosenthal …. foxsports … jan 31st …. reports marlins are interested in gregg as set-up man .

    today , feb 1st … troy renck of denver posts says gregg is a finalist for set-up job in colorado , but NOT , the favorite , because he has been offered the closer’s job in miami .

    go figure .

  68. Eddy says:

    @big o:
    ugh this is vomit

  69. Jeff says:

    No J. Sanchez in the top 60?

  70. Grey

    Grey says:

    @Jeff: He’s in the top 80. Tomorrow, friend.

  71. The moustache is wise, good reading as always Grey.

    I’m surprised that Ted Lilly didn’t crack your top 60. I’d surely take him over a schmohawk like Blanton or Dice-K but that’s just me.

    I know, I know, he’s in tomorrow’s reading. I’m the kid who skipped ahead to the end of the quiz. (Plus I’m drinking.)

  72. Grey

    Grey says:

    @Fman99: He’s going to be out for the first month of the season with shoulder issues.

  73. Eddy says:

    Looks like Reyes is 100% healthy and apparently ready for spring training:

    Reyes took a significant step in that direction Monday, running five 90-foot sprints and subsequently declaring himself ready for Spring Training.
    “That’s how I do it,” Reyes told SNY. “I’m ready to play baseball.”

  74. Steve says:

    @Grey: Is a healthy Lilly the kind of set-and-forget guy we were discussing earlier?

  75. @Grey See, I did not know that. So there you go. Or there I go. There. Go.

  76. Eddy says:

    I’m not sure if you’d know this, but I was wondering if the top 300 printed in the Yahoo fantasy magazine is going to be the top 300 once Yahoo itself opens up.

  77. Grey

    Grey says:

    @Steve: Yeah, but I’m more than a little concerned that he’s still recovering and is going to miss the first month.

    @Eddy: Thanks for the heads up on Reyes. I don’t know about the top 300, sorry.

  78. Eddy says:

    all right then no problem. I’ll let you know if they correlate for the heck of it once it does open up.

  79. Stephen says:

    In a 2 C auction league, who would you draft and how much?

  80. Grey

    Grey says:

    @Stephen: I’d try to spend around $20 on both. Ideally, I’d get one guy for around $12 and the other for around $5-8. Think Soto and Iannetta or Montero and Hernandez or Napoli and Hernandez, etc. There’s a top 20 catcher post.

  81. The Dude says:

    @Grey: There’s a misconception that the point of “Moneyball” was that Beane et al values OBP above all else. This is a misnomer. The point of the Beane-way-of-thinking was that there are certain baseball commodities that are undervalued across the league.

    At the time of the book’s publishing that happened to be OBP. But, if you look at what Beane did immediately following the books release, he stacked the team with defense. Now it appears that he’s stacking the A’s with speed. I don’t have the statistical prowess to tell you if speed is undervalued, but I’m sure he’s got his numbers added and his decimals dotted.

    I guess the point is, like in fantasy, when everyone else zigs (OBP) you zag (Speed/Defense).

  82. MrPittsSox says:

    @The Dude: and trade half the team for prospects at the all-star break…

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