Today, is the day in history known as, “Aw, sookie sookie, don’t need the nookie, Grey’s giving me a fantasy baseball cookie.”  Or, more succinctly, the top 500 for 2017 fantasy baseball.  A few years ago, the top 500 was only a top 300 for fantasy baseball.  Before that, it was 16 AD and I was rolling with Jesus to this deli that had great matzoh ball soup.  In a few years from now, this is going to be a top 10,000 and I’m going to be ranking Mike Trout Jr. Jr. Jr. the 15th.  Today, in this year, seventeen after twenty, comes the top 500 for 2017 fantasy baseball.  Or as I like to call it, from Mike Trout A to chimpanzee.  Actually, I don’t call it that.  So, this post isn’t meant to send shockwaves through your system.  The pipe cleaner that the doctor uses to get the clogged wax from your ears is meant for that.  This is simply to give you an idea of where guys are ranked in relation to other positions.  I.e., you know I like Francisco Lindor better than Corey Seager, according to the top 20 shortstops, but do I like Lindor better than Joey Votto?  Okay, it’s not that simply.  You’ll notice after the top 200, positions start to get clumped together.  I might be the only fantasy baseball ‘pert to tell you this, but it doesn’t matter where, say, Eric Thames is ranked vs. Daniel Norris.  If you need a pitcher, Thames isn’t going to help you.  He can be ranked 75 spots in front of Norris and it doesn’t matter.  That’s why I have the 2017 fantasy baseball rankings broken down by positions.  If you need a 1st baseman, where Justin Bour vs. Greg Bird matters, but where Bour vs. Brian McCann is really doesn’t matter.  Also, there’s no comments about players, which you really should know prior to drafting.  In other words, Jose Bautista might be in the early 100s overall, but am I drafting him?  Well, you’d know if you read the top 40 outfielders.  There’s also a top 100 for 2017 fantasy baseball to help you.  Along shortly will be a Fantasy Baseball War Room and a pitchers pairing tool.  Anyway, here’s the top 500 for 2017 fantasy baseball:

 

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kent goodman
kent goodman
5 years ago

I wasn’t sure if I missed it, but did you put the Top 500 into tiers as I saw someone mention tiers in a comment. I know you started doing it in the top 10, top 20, etc. but didn’t see it continue or is this strictly a top 500 with no tiers?

keith Ehredt
5 years ago

5 by 5 12 team league roto………is it smart to avoid drafting closers.. just sticking with starting pitching and middle relievers? a guy in our league finished 2nd last year not drafting closers til 3/4 of the way through season….drafting starters and RP with high K’s thank you very much for your time sir, the formula i use is 1st 6 picks all power hitters having 1b, 2b, ss, filled in…then go for pitching……what do u recommend sir?

ChiWhtSx
ChiWhtSx
5 years ago

Need oyur advisce Grey. I’m in a 15 keeper dynasty league. I’m struggling with my 15th pick. Would you keep Jonathon Schoop or Taijuan Walker. I am light on SP, but like the upside of Schoop. Or if you think i should keep both, and drop someone else. Below is my team..

C- Buster Posey
1B- Carlos Santana
2B – Jason Kipnis
SS- Francisco Lindor
3B – Anthony REndon
OF – Mike Trout
OF- JD Martinez
OF- Ian Desmond
Util – Stephen Piscotty
Util- Khris Davis
Util- ?

SP- Justin Verlander
SP- StephenStrasburg
SP-?
SP-?
SP-?
RP- Roberto Osuna
RP- Craig Kimbrel

Jason
Jason
5 years ago

Did my first mock with all your rankings out and my excel sheet done. 10 team H2H 5×5 21 roster spots. Thoughts appreciated thanks!

C- MURPHY (RD 21)
1B- FREEMAN (RD 3)
2B- ODOR (RD 4)
3B- RENDON (RD 8)
SS- CORREA (RD 2)
OF- BRYANT (RD 1)
OF- DESMOND (RD 5)
OF- DAHL (RD 10)
UT- SEGURA (RD 7)
BN- MILLER (RD 14)
BN- KEPLER (RD 18)

SP- DARVISH (RD 6)
SP- MARTINEZ (RD 9)
RP- HERRERA (RD 15)
RP- IGLESIAS (RD 19)
P- DUFFY (RD 11)
P- HILL (RD 12)
P- LACKEY (RD 13)
BN- MCCULLERS (RD 16)
BN- PINEDA (RD 17)
BN- KELLEY (RD 20)

CHEERS!

Mclovin it
Mclovin it
5 years ago

Keeper league
keep 6
Runs (R), Home Runs (HR), Runs Batted In (RBI), Stolen Bases (SB), Batting Average (AVG)
Wins (W), Saves (SV), Strikeouts (K), Earned Run Average (ERA), (Walks + Hits)/ Innings Pitched (WHIP)

arenado, bogaerts, bregman, dahl, buxton, mazara, cole, cmart or giolito

what you thinking? thanks!

Samson
Samson
5 years ago

10 team league, I have goldy, scherzer, and kershaw, I keep all three right?

Righty
Righty
5 years ago

Is there something wrong with the dollar values in the list? Seems to be some random -8 and -9 values around rank 295 and then later in the rankings. Just seems out of order or off based on the ranks themselves.

nightpandas
nightpandas
5 years ago

Grey,

who do you like more in a keep forever league? Springer or Desmond….I do have a shot to win this year…

Slick
Slick
5 years ago

I’m guessing that now that Phillips is out the door, we’ll need to take a closer look at those Peraza rankings?

Mantis Toboggan MD
Mantis Toboggan MD
Reply to  Slick
5 years ago

@Slick: oh my dear god, CIN is so damn stupid, they get nothing back and waited THIS LONG on this. makes PHI waiting to move utley/rollins look like geniuses.

Mantis Toboggan MD
Mantis Toboggan MD
Reply to  Mantis Toboggan MD
5 years ago

@Mantis Toboggan MD: oh wait, i forgot, this was phillips himself holding that one up.

Milkshakes
Milkshakes
5 years ago

any reason for the low playing time estimates on Daniel Murphy (or is that factoring in a lot of walks?) His R/RBI projection seems low

Also, what do you think of Odor’s 12 “just enough” HR and his 67% SB success rate?

Matt
Matt
5 years ago

Okay grey I took your advise and tried to improve my pitching a bit. I’m in a 12 team 20 keeper dynasty league 7×7 format.

I traded Jose Altuve and Jeff samardzija for Noah Syndagaard jean Segura and a 2nd round pick.

Jt Realmuto. C
Freddie freeman. 1b
Jean segura. 2b
Nolan Arenado 3b
Carlos Correra. SS
Nomar Mazara. Of
Jackie Bradley Jr. Of
Jay Bruce. Of
Brad miller. Utility
Manuel Margot. Utility

Noah syndagaard. Sp
Aaron Nola. Sp
Collin Mchugh. Sp
Tyson Ross. Sp
Trevor Bauer. Sp
Kelvin Herrera Rp

I know I still need to improve on the arms here in the draft, but what do you think of the altuve deal, and the structure of my team.

Thank you as always!

Matt
Matt
Reply to  Grey
5 years ago

@Grey:

I know you wouldn’t but I needed that arm, after seeing your projection for segura I felt it was the right thing to do. Maybe not though lol

Cheese Eating Surrender Monkey
Cheese Eating Surrender Monkey
5 years ago

now with these projected keepers from above
C sanchez
1B carpenter
2B cano
SS treat urner (5 days into season he’ll have this in yahoo)
3B
OF (3) cargo 1/piscotty/dahl
util (1) jones (OF)
SP lackey
and might have a porcello for a pick deal coming

would you make a jones for g.cole here (QS/holds/XBH/OPS added 7X7)
i’d keep cole over lackey after this deal, and then target either the best 1B or 3B (or really just best overall player) while getting an earlier pick before draft at slot 22 overall. if i keep nine (with lackey and jones) my first pick would be at pick 59 overall. or could even just keep lackey and cole and still have my first pick at 59 overall.

Cheese Eating Surrender Monkey
Cheese Eating Surrender Monkey
Reply to  Grey
5 years ago

@Grey: after getting cole (if that happens), stick with cole and lackey (and not worry about pitching for a while, even in 20 teamer, since only 1250 innings max) still keep lackey (thus first pick at 59), or don’t keep lackey and start at pick 22nd.

Cheese Eating Surrender Monkey
Cheese Eating Surrender Monkey
Reply to  Grey
5 years ago

@Grey: i’ll go look at that. once i know more i’ll report back. with some teams it’s completely obvious. 2 teams are stockpiling really good prospects (the same guy who bought rodon + martes (HOU) off me for 14th-15th rounders just got b.rodgers + robles for just an 11th, which is crazy to me).

Duda Want to Build a Snowman?
Duda Want to Build a Snowman?
5 years ago

Hey Grey!

Any qualms or hesitation about trading your $3 moncada for $10 jd Mart in a keep 7 forever (+$3) league?

Other keepers are all top 1-20 bats plus Dahl and Yu.

Thanks!

Natitude
Natitude
5 years ago

In a 12 team h2h category keeper league – can keep 8 players . The cost to keep a player is 1$ a year with a $1 salary increase each year U keep a player. I’m the league champ but am facing a tough choice with my 7Th and 8th keeper. Who would you keep and why ?

Altuve
Areanado
Corerra
Votto
Springer
Cueto

Now the hard part?
Dozier
Bergman
K Jansen
Trumbo
C Martinez
D Duffy

Big Magoo
Big Magoo
5 years ago

Did you see the John Wick sequel? I’ll might try to catch it at some point this weekend. The first one shocked the hell out of me. Who knew that fifty-something Keanu would be pumping out good action movies.

Big Magoo
Big Magoo
Reply to  Grey
5 years ago

@Grey: If you liked the original Bourne trilogy (not the most recent one or the Renner one) and/or a film like Collateral, I highly recommend it. Great action and a surprisingly good story too.

Obligatory FBB comment – this is the first time I can ever remember liking Matt Moore. AT&T Park should help him immensely. Bench him in Coors and maybe in Chase Field (even though he had a great start there late last season) and he should give you just under a strikeout per inning with decent ratios. Interesting post-hype guy. Anyone like that you’re looking at this year?

Big Magoo
Big Magoo
Reply to  Grey
5 years ago

@Grey: Yeah, it’s kind of like those movies. He’s a “retired” assassin, things happen, then REVENGE! Definitely check out the first one if you get a chance.

Moore is still a late rounder/streamer in RCLs, but I’m interested in deeper formats. Definitely more of a back-end starter, but he looks interesting this year.

Big Magoo
Big Magoo
Reply to  Grey
5 years ago

@Grey: Nova looked great with Pittsburgh, but there’s no way he maintains that miniscule walk rate, and they preach efficiency and pitching to contact. We need Ks, Searage! He’s worth a flier, but I’m not expecting a huge breakout.

Big Magoo
Big Magoo
Reply to  Grey
5 years ago

@Grey: Most likely. Every year, there are maybe 20 or so SPs that look interesting outside of the top 40ish guys and maybe 4-5 of them pan out. Nova and Moore will probably be 4.00/1.30 guys and be dumped onto the wire in short order. So we’re probably both wrong, haha. But maybe not. Gotta be on the lookout for this year’s Hendricks.

Duda Want to Build a Snowman?
Duda Want to Build a Snowman?
Reply to  Big Magoo
5 years ago

@Big Magoo: such a great movie (the first). Can’t wait for chapter 2

Big Magoo
Big Magoo
Reply to  Duda Want to Build a Snowman?
5 years ago

@Duda Want to Build a Snowman?: Yup, I was referring to the first one. This one has received rave reviews too though. I’m hoping to catch it tomorrow, but next weekend at the latest. It looks great.

Duda Want to Build a Snowman?
Duda Want to Build a Snowman?
Reply to  Big Magoo
5 years ago

@Big Magoo: yeah same. I’m sure it’ll be great. I think Lawrence Fishburne is in this one too!

Big Magoo
Big Magoo
Reply to  Duda Want to Build a Snowman?
5 years ago

@Duda Want to Build a Snowman?: A Matrix reunion! Not a full one though. I read somewhere that Carrie-Anne Moss didn’t like working with Keanu for some reason. Not sure if it’s true or not.

Duda Want to Build a Snowman?
Duda Want to Build a Snowman?
5 years ago

Hey Grey! What do you think of this team in a 12 team H2H categories league? OBP and OPS instead of AVG. Any holes?

C – Yasmany
1B – Freeman
2B – Villar
SS – Story
3B – Justin Turner (nice obp and ops numbers)
OF – Trout
OF – JD Martinez
OF – Polanco
UTL – Dahl

Thanks!

Duda Want to Build a Snowman?
Duda Want to Build a Snowman?
Reply to  Grey
5 years ago

@Grey: thanks! It’s a keeper so pumped about my OF situation in particular.

Slick
Slick
5 years ago

If a crumb falls out of Grey’s mustache and nobody sees it, did it actually fall?

J-Money
J-Money
5 years ago

What Up Grey,

Its good to be back. Who is this years Arenado or Polanco??

Thanks man!

peacecoast
peacecoast
5 years ago

GMAN my keeper situation is evolving. 12T mixed roto. I have goldie, arenado, bryant, rizzo in rounds 1 to 4. That leaves me with one keeper left. Pick 5 in my draft is pick #50. Pick 6 will be #71 due to the snake. I can take Pollock in 5 but I was sorta planning on taking my first SP there. I could also take Dee Gordon in round 5. If I don’t take either I can draft in round 5 (pick 50) and keep VV in round 27. I am torn! Take pollock or Dee in round 5 then wait till pick 71 (round 6) to start my pitchers? I think Carrasco et al will be gone by then. Or keep VV in 27 and then pick up one from Carrasco tier in round 5. My soul, my life, is open to your decision.

Jason
Jason
5 years ago

Great rankings Grey!

Just a heads up, in the OF rankings you have Perez 63 and Jankowski 64. But in overall rankings you have Jankowski (223) ahead of Perez (254). Caught it while updating my excel sheet. Cheers!

Jason
Jason
Reply to  Grey
5 years ago

@Grey:

Cool I’ll update my sheet thank you sir!

nick the dick
nick the dick
5 years ago

You got me out here carving up snow and salting my walkway like the salt throwing guy. Sprinkle it baby! Go ‘head baby!

Slick
Slick
5 years ago

Grey,

20 Team H2H. You could choose 5 Keepers. Who is your preferred 1Bman: Votto or Wil Myers?

CJ
CJ
5 years ago

Any reason Ervin Santana was left off the top 500? Has to be better than some of the guys on there like Ariel Miranda.

M
M
Reply to  Grey
5 years ago

@Grey: I know he doesn’t have a spot in the rotation but if Devenski were to win a rotation spot, would he be in the Strahm tier?

nick the dick
nick the dick
5 years ago

See you in Mexico!

nick the dick
nick the dick
Reply to  Grey
5 years ago

@Grey: Insane. Tesar’s wife has a pretty distinct, sountherny big toothed voice too. Hell, give me one cackle and i’d know it’s you!

I got $100 for groceries, $1400 for liquor, and $6,000 for you to go bail a couple of shit puppets out of jail
I got $100 for groceries, $1400 for liquor, and $6,000 for you to go bail a couple of shit puppets out of jail
Reply to  nick the dick
5 years ago

@nick the dick: good god, i don’t know the backstory yet on this, but that wife is gonna get CHEESED OFF big time if you don’t know her voice.

For an Armenianless vacation come to Akron
For an Armenianless vacation come to Akron
5 years ago

after seeing you say the OBP rankings are out monday does that mean Rudy’s most awesome player rater with all the neat extra categories is out sooner (i do remember you saying mid-late feb i think, so we’re almost there, man that time went quick) than later? i can then start my super time consuming merging of yours with his for differing type leagues with any mix of OPS/slugging/OBP/QS/holds etc.

Cheese Eating Surrender Monkey
Cheese Eating Surrender Monkey
5 years ago

20 team h2h keep 7-9. keeping less than 9 net you supplemental predraft draft picks. after keeping what you told me:
C g.sanchez
1B carpenter
2B cano
3B (could be carpenter if 1B is better FA)
SS
OF (3) dahl/piscotty/cargo 1
util treat urner

also have these could be kept (porcello/lackey/rodon/f.martes (HOU)/ellsbury/jose ram/a.jones), so i’ve been shopping them. got a trade deal of
my rodon + martes for 14th round (5th round after keepers and supplemental draft) + 15th round

1. look good enough? one reason to move them is this team i’m moving them to could make other deals if i don’t do it and i’d get nothing
2. after seeing your lackey rank guessing still a no to keep him as 8th due to age, as i could get back him again or somebody better at picks 19/22 if i only keep 7, albeit i’d have no pitcher keeper at all.

Cheese Eating Surrender Monkey
Cheese Eating Surrender Monkey
Reply to  Cheese Eating Surrender Monkey
5 years ago

@Cheese Eating Surrender Monkey: OPS, XBH, QS, holds added cats 7×7 roto

Cheese Eating Surrender Monkey
Cheese Eating Surrender Monkey
Reply to  Cheese Eating Surrender Monkey
5 years ago

@Cheese Eating Surrender Monkey: max 1250 innings with 5 RP slots, so not a lot of SP needed here.

Cheese Eating Surrender Monkey
Cheese Eating Surrender Monkey
Reply to  Grey
5 years ago

@Grey: got it on trade (yeah i’ll take it as this other owner while not having great keepers in total can only fit 9 total, so if he doesn’t trade for my 2 here he’ll probably go somewhere else, he didn’t bite on jones or porcello, who’d i thought would get bites, they still might from others, this owner is going young),

in #2, i’m keeping the 7 shown, when you say “have no one to throw back” do you mean i should keep 2 more of above players (jones/lackey/porcello/jose ram, albeit keeping jones would make one of my OF a bench guy) or did you mean the opposite?

Cheese Eating Surrender Monkey
Cheese Eating Surrender Monkey
Reply to  Grey
5 years ago

@Grey: yeah keep 7-9 i have 7 at this point, and i probably didn’t include him when i asked this earlier, and certainly didn’t see him being in top 100 at that time, that post came out couple days later. ok, so lackey as 8th keeper. would still have pick at 22nd overall out of 40 picks in the supplemental draft open only for those who keep less than 9. so really it’s quite possibly a better pick than 22nd.

Cheese Eating Surrender Monkey
Cheese Eating Surrender Monkey
Reply to  Cheese Eating Surrender Monkey
5 years ago

@Cheese Eating Surrender Monkey: here’s something (and it’s probably just yahoo being yahoo (re: lazy and inept)), when i went to look at whether or not jose ram should maybe be kept as 9th keeper (you have him 144th, he’s probably lower in OPS/XBH league though), which projects as having value in a 20 team league (pick 144 equals early 8th rounder in 20 teamer), i noticed in yahoo’s he’s NOT getting SS/2B as you have above (and i’m betting it’s not your error for sure) only 3B/OF. so if yahoo doesn’t fix this he would have to be a 3B for me, obviously i’d rather have him as a SS.

Cheese Eating Surrender Monkey
Cheese Eating Surrender Monkey
Reply to  Grey
5 years ago

@Grey: by yahoo’s rules i’m pretty sure it’s just them not having updated jose ram yet. last year even in the MIDDLE of the season they let swihart go 5 extra games over their eligibility limits before giving him LF (OF). if a site is that lazy during season i’m sure it’s quite believable they’ll just update it later in preseason.

LenFuego
LenFuego
Reply to  Cheese Eating Surrender Monkey
5 years ago

@Cheese Eating Surrender Monkey:
I think the way to look at this is that with a 20 team league and minimum 7 protections per team, at least 140 players will be protected, so unless your 8th guy is worse than 140 (or at least close to that level), you should probably keep him. Lackey is ranked 91st – that seems like an easy keep decision.

For your 9th guy, there will be at least 160 players gone by the time that draft pick comes up. Or you could protect Adam Jones, who is ranked 81st. I know you have 3 OF already, but that seems like too much value to pass up – do you really want to pick up a SS or 3B ranked about 160th overall rather than have an 81st ranked outfielder? I would take Jones and wait for the trade market to develop a few weeks into the season. Somebody will have a spare SS or 3B that is higher ranked than whatever you will pick up in the pre-supplemental draft.

Cheese Eating Surrender Monkey
Cheese Eating Surrender Monkey
Reply to  LenFuego
5 years ago

@LenFuego: i already have
treat urner/cargo 1/piscotty/dahl/cano for
2B
OF (3)
util (1)

so somebody would be a bench bat. i am of course trying to get draft pick for jones.

LenFuego
LenFuego
Reply to  Cheese Eating Surrender Monkey
5 years ago

@Cheese Eating Surrender Monkey: Sure, absolutely try to trade him if you can. But if you can’t get that done before the draft, I would keep him as a spare outfielder and look to trade him after.

Or ….

Not sure of your eligibilty rules, but Trea Turner got in 2 games at SS last year – in our league,getting in just one game at a position makes a guy eligible at that position for the rest of the season. So if Turner gets in at SS sometime in April or May, you may be able to slide him to SS and slide Adam Jones in at U for the rest of the season. Voila!

Cheese Eating Surrender Monkey
Cheese Eating Surrender Monkey
Reply to  LenFuego
5 years ago

@LenFuego: HOLY SHIT THANKS! i had a memory of earlier assuming that treat urner is in fact the SS at WAS now, but forgot about it. he certainly is. by game 6 of season (assuming yahoo gonna yahoo doesn’t pull a swihart) he’ll be my SS. yeah, keeping jones makes sense. only way this looks bad is if a better than lackey pitcher doesn’t get kept, and i could’ve drafted him over lackey had i not kept lackey. this happened last year when i traded for rodon predraft and then maybe 1-3 better SP weren’t kept and i could’ve gotten them had i not kept rodon

swaggerjackers
swaggerjackers
5 years ago

@Grey:

In a weekly H2H category league, would you shift your draft strategy to favor pitching any more than usual? Last year, some teams in this league seemingly went overboard with SPs and were rolling out staffs like Kershaw, Bumgarner, Lester and Cole Hamels.

To keep up, I started out my staff with Sale and Synder. (I had good keepers with Goldy, Stanton, and Abreu so I felt okay taking some high end pitchers. As the season played out, I was splitting categories most weeks tying 5-5 or losing 4-6. I’d lose half the offensive categories despite a roster that included the keepers mentioned above along with Springer, Story, Odor, Franco, etc.

Based on that experience in the league, would you go even harder for bats or double down with two high end starters again?

Hwood
Hwood
5 years ago

I’m starting a 5 year keeper league. You can keep 4 players. Would you keep 3 bats and 1 pitcher or 4 bats??

Hwood
Hwood
Reply to  Grey
5 years ago

@Grey: 12 teams and OBP rather than average

SurveySaysIRock
SurveySaysIRock
5 years ago

Take a hike Christmas, this is the most wonderful time of the year.

So I’m in a dynasty keeper league and I have a decision to make. We are allowed 5 keepers and the rest of my keepers are pretty much set (Schmiddy, Harper, Odor, JD) but I also have Arrieta and Darvish, who would basically count as my fifth round pick in a 10 team league. We don’t penalize for pitching losses and we also have K/BB (along with K’s). That being said, which pitcher would you keep? Or would you not keep either?

Thank you and I’m sure I speak for everyone here when I say I appreciate everything you do!

diesel
diesel
5 years ago

This is just gorgeous. Thank you.

diesel
diesel
Reply to  Grey
5 years ago

@Grey: Mr Grey, no Conforto, is he honorable mention at least? You see him fading away, or what?

diesel
diesel
Reply to  Grey
5 years ago

@Grey: Woof. I guess Steamer is counting mucho days off for the grandparents in the outfield.

Noam
Noam
5 years ago

Any hope for Souza? Can he capitalize on his earlier promise or should I try to dump him in my dynasty?

The Great Knoche
The great Knoche
5 years ago

Who Is Mr. Irrellavent? Strop or Rosenthal?

So hard to choose.

jack florida
jack florida
5 years ago

best fantasy rankings and help anywhere—thanks for the great stuff

peacecoast
peacecoast
5 years ago

Grey, in my league we have no innings limit so people tend to run 9 SP out there to try compete in W and K. Personally I hate this but I have to deal with it. Also we only do weekly FAAB transactions so no streaming really. How much does this change your SP drafting goals? I will be keeping VV in 27 and plan to start drafting around the time you recommend (carrasco tier).
I suppose this is a better question for when you post the SP pairings huh.

peacecoast
peacecoast
Reply to  Grey
5 years ago

@Grey: 12t mixed roto 5×5 (NSVH)

Big Mike
Big Mike
5 years ago

Santan at 61 for 5×5 leagues causes me a dilemma – that would obviously put him a good bit higher in a league that values OBP (mine uses avg/obp/slg as individual categories). Ballpark for me his value in such a league (12-team mixed). He’s on my roster and I’m planning to drop, but I may have to keep him. Santana and the Rizz are a tasty 1B and CI combo for my OBP.

Bad Ash
Bad Ash
Reply to  Grey
5 years ago

@Grey:

He meant how much higher does Santan, the Suntan Man, go if ranking OBP instead of AVG. Probably 10-15 spots?

Who can play for Cleveland
sprinkle in some Jew (Kipnis)
cover his stats with BBs and 31 home runs or two

The Suntan Man
oh the Suntan Man can
The Suntan Man can
cause he mixes it with lotion
and doesn’t act a fooo

Bleh, needs work.

Joey
Joey
5 years ago

12 team, h2h dynasty league. Would you make either trade?

1. Trade away Bellinger for Carpenter
2. Trade away Bellinger and Benintendi for Rizzo

Thanks!

Joey
Joey
Reply to  Grey
5 years ago

@Grey:

Thanks. What about Benintendi for Cespedes? Better or worse than the other offers?

WarrrrrmMilk
WarrrrrmMilk
5 years ago

Grey,
My daughter’s middle name is in honor of you! My wife may dispute that you were the inspiration, but whatever, her birth cert says “Grey” and she is quite a handsome little baby. Handsome in a non-mustache having female baby sort of way.

Need some help. I’m in a 16 team keep 5 players forever league with no dollar amounts or escalation on keepers. We also get one minor league draft pick each year. Offensive stat categories are R, H, 2B, 3B, HR, RBI, SB, TB, AVG, OPS. My five keepers are Goldschmidt, Machado, Murphy, Kershaw, and Archer. I’m being offered Bryce Harper for Goldschmidt and my minor league draft pick (all top 100 prospects are already owned). Harper scares me to death! But I gotta pull the trigger on this, right??? Help me Obi. Thanks!

A-Ram Baller
A-Ram Baller
5 years ago

Moncada is listed on the Red Sox… Too much time with the Cougs…

A-Ram Baller
A-Ram Baller
Reply to  Grey
5 years ago

@Grey: Excuses are like Poems, they are for sissies and no one wants to hear them…

Dom
Dom
5 years ago

10 team, 5×5 roto, we keep 10 players
I have eight, need help on the 9th and 10th
Keepers: Bryant, Correa, Story, Harper, Dahl, Yu Darvish, Carrasco, Jansen
Options: Adam Jones, Danny Salazar, Pujols

In the draft is looks like Odor, Springer, or JD Martinez will be available in the 1st and one of these pitchers in the 2nd round: Kluber, Lester, Arrieta, Cueto

Which two do I keep?

Humm Baby
Humm Baby
5 years ago

Great list and awesome we can download it. Thank you… It looks like in my Yahoo league, Trumbo is only eligible in the OF, and not 1B, at least to start the season. Looks like he finished 1 game started short of qualifying for 1B, which sucks because 1B is so shallow this year.

dubjay
dubjay
5 years ago

Hey grey,
Im up next in a 12 team H2H keeper league.
My offense is pretty set with only C and my 2 UTIL positions open. I only have 2 SP and 1 CL so far.
My OF is kind of questionable with Pollock, Mazara, and Buxton. Im trying to decide between
B.HAMILTON
D.DUFFY
J.BAUTISTA
A.PUJOLS
What do you think?

dubjay
dubjay
Reply to  Grey
5 years ago

@Grey:
I hate one note players like Hamilton but when they are that dominating, its hard to avoid. I already have some steals with Dozier, Frazier, and my current OF.

Duda Want to Build a Snowman?
Duda Want to Build a Snowman?
5 years ago

Sorry to bump from the above chain. Looking at the rankings, who are some established guys that you think can make the leap to top 20 next year?

The running short list that I have going is: Dahl, Polanco, Moncada (if stars align), Pollock and Myers (if those guys essentially repeat their last full seasons).

Any glaring guys I’m missing? Thanks!

Duda Want to Build a Snowman?
Duda Want to Build a Snowman?
Reply to  Grey
5 years ago

@Grey: Thanks!

Cram It
Cram It
Reply to  Duda Want to Build a Snowman?
5 years ago
Duda Want to Build a Snowman?
Duda Want to Build a Snowman?
Reply to  Cram It
5 years ago

@Cram It: Delino!!!!!!!!!

I am the Walrus
I am the Walrus
5 years ago

I’m evaluating my last years draft-12 team—H2H/5 SP with 6 bench spots. So a lot of pitchers used per week.
Here it is (with round): 4-Price, 8-Liraino, 11-Iglesias, 12-Corbin, 14- Fiers, 15-Leake, 16-Estrada, 20-Santiago, 21-Karns, 22-E.Ramirez.
As you can see this sucks! (somehow I barely made the playoff and won the league!). So what went wrong? Options:
1) wrong draft/round strategy
2) simply drafted the wrong guys (although mostly Razzball likes)
3) Sent with too much upside and needed a few safe picks.
4) other or combination of the above??

I am the Walrus
I am the Walrus
Reply to  Grey
5 years ago

OK, I think you mean I got pretty *unlucky right? So the strategy was basically good then other than Price?

Basement Artie
Basement Artie
5 years ago

Thanks Grey. As is the case every year, I wait for you to post this so I can transfer it over to Yahoo for draft day. Any chance you can hide this from everyone else in my league?I think they’re on to me. Thanks again.

Jake
Jake
5 years ago

Thanks so much for doing these. Pairing these with Rudy’s tools (heh heh) is a great advantage going into drafts.

BTW, when should we expect Rudy’s projections?

DonnieB
DonnieB
Reply to  Grey
5 years ago

Will Rudy or the staff be doing a grid by position based on your rankings? In the past,that is very helpful going into drafts that are live and moving fast.. Thanks for all your work for us out here that rely on your efforts.

Clogged Rosterman
Clogged Rosterman
5 years ago

I guess we’re all going to be owning a lot of shares of Tommy Joseph.

Clogged Rosterman
Clogged Rosterman
Reply to  Grey
5 years ago

@Grey:

Yahoo puts him down at around #230 and I recently got him for like $3 in a dynasty auction draft, where I’d figure his value would be even higher. (Healy went for like $8 and Bird went for $13 in the same draft.)

Fungazi
Fungazi
5 years ago

Looks like you won’t be getting much of Bregman this year. He’s MI in yahoo, not SS as you have in this btw.

Fungazi
Fungazi
Reply to  Grey
5 years ago

@Grey: Yeah, I think since Yahoo does 5 GS at a position to get eligibility, he had 4 starts at SS and 1 start at 2B which qualifies at MI but not SS specifically.

Fungazi
Fungazi
Reply to  Grey
5 years ago

@Grey: Not really sure. It stood out in the player list, so I don’t think I’ve seen it before. Here are some other players I can see with it –

Jose Ramirez 3B, MI, OF
Brock Holt, 3B, MI, OF
Tony Wolters, C, MI if that isn’t a strange eligibility combo

Don’t see any of the equivalent of CI

Fungazi
Fungazi
Reply to  Grey
5 years ago

@Grey: Yes, you can sort by MI, but that just shows all SS, 2B and these MI spots.

dubjay
dubjay
Reply to  Grey
5 years ago

@Grey:
@Grey:
hes 3B in my yahoo league

goodfold2
goodfold2
Reply to  Grey
5 years ago

@Grey: it’s been going on for i think this is the 3rd or at least 2nd year. it’s rare of course, since somebody would have to have less than 5 games at a specific MI spot.

Foul balls
Foul balls
5 years ago

Always enjoy the read and the helpful insight, in a 10 team league h2h 9keepers and all 9 of my keepers are in your top 30 here’s hopen the swami of the spitball is successful in his studious top 500 selections

Duda Want to Build a Snowman?
Duda Want to Build a Snowman?
5 years ago

Always forget these come with nifty auction values!

In standard 12 team keeper leagues, to snag the young studs like Trout, Harper, Polanco/Dahl, etc., about how far above your projected salaries would you reach to grab them? $5 or so, a little more for the Trouts of the world?

The particular league I’m thinking of is only a keep-5, so even 5 high priced keepers won’t totally ruin your year-to-year draft budget.

Thanks.

Duda Want to Build a Snowman?
Duda Want to Build a Snowman?
Reply to  Grey
5 years ago

@Grey: For sure. I could have phrased my question better in retrospect! What about for drafting a team in a brand new keeper league–meaning that all players are draftable this year only, but then the keep-5 kicks in.

Since it’s only keep 5, I’d like to target at least 4 young top 20 bats (Trout, Harper, Freeman, Story, for example) + am trying to figure out how much I should be willing to spend over the projected auction values to snag them.

Obviously Trout won’t appreciate in value too much, but I figure that if I have those guys at the top, then the Polancos, Dahls, Moncadas etc. of the world later on, that should guarantee me a nice set of 5 guys for 2018.

Duda Want to Build a Snowman?
Duda Want to Build a Snowman?
Reply to  Grey
5 years ago

@Grey: Makes sense. Thanks!

GreyDay
GreyDay
5 years ago

Heyo! Did we get any takers on the War Room doc?

HolyGhostClaw
HolyGhostClaw
5 years ago

Yo Yo Grey!!

Been reading all the sleeper posts, top 10/20/etc positional posts, and yesterday’s top 100. And now this. The motherload 500! Finally starting to feel like baseball is getting close. Thanks for this! Great work!

Delino Desheilds #488, :-( RIP!

Crock
Crock
5 years ago

Joining a startup 12 or 14 team (not sure which we will have) 40 roster dynasty league. We are gonna have some sort of competition to determine draft slot selection. Winner will get first pick of draft slot and so on. In scenario what draft slot do you feel is the best? This would be a snake draft.

PEDs3
PEDs3
5 years ago

Keep 1:
G Sanchez $8
Gausman: $2
Paxton; $1

PEDs3
PEDs3
Reply to  Grey
5 years ago

@Grey: I knew you loved Catchers!
Thanks Grey!

ElBoss
ElBoss
5 years ago

You have drafted 2 pitchers and 2 outfielders, are you still taking Billy Hamilton over Mccullers? I feel like Hamilton is gonna take it to the next level this year is there any reason for concern with him?

danny almonte
danny almonte
5 years ago

In a svhld league, would Miller get bumped up to the Chapman/Kenly/Britton tier?

Hoosier Daddy
Hoosier Daddy
5 years ago

FYI….looks like projections for DH players were omitted

Dodger Rabbit
Dodger Rabbit
5 years ago

Stats for Cam Bedrosian (#243) look missing…

Noam
Noam
5 years ago

In a dynasty Grey, would you trade Familia and a 4th rd pick (prospect draft) for Devon Travis?

Dave
Dave
5 years ago

You know that Seinfeld episode where Jerry won’t tell George how much he paid for his fancy new blazer?

Much like that I just wanted to say I traded for Trea Turner in my Dynasty and I DO NOT want to talk about what I paid! So stop asking!

OK it was a little more than Scherzer, but I can’t say anything else.

OK it was Scherzer plus a top 100 player.

OK top 50.

Maybe top 2o in some rankings….

But that’s ALL I’m telling you so stop asking!

Dave
Dave
Reply to  Grey
5 years ago

@Grey: I just…. can’t….

But you sir are partly to blame because I drank a few too many potent IPAs listening to the top2o podcast and then the liquid courage was all like ” fuck it I’m gonna offer Scherzer and Starling Marte for Trea Turner and Verlander!!”

So I did. And he accepted.

But seriously I’m not telling you anything else

Blind Umps have Rights too (seriously their union is that strong)
Blind Umps have Rights too (seriously their union is that strong)
Reply to  Dave
5 years ago

@Dave: if you got verlander back it’s not really “i paid scherzer + another top 20 player for treat urner”

Test Kitchen
Test Kitchen
5 years ago

Grey,

Do weekly lineup leagues change your philosophy on pitching at all? Since you have to commit to a guy, and a lineup spot, for a week, you obviously have less flexibility to stream.

Can you still follow your general pitching philosophy in a weekly lineup league or do top Starters get a small boost in value since, theoretically, they are more “dependable”?

Thanks

DisEnFranchised
DisEnFranchised
Reply to  Test Kitchen
5 years ago

@Test Kitchen: I would stick with Grey’s plan. Starting pitchers have a 2 start week every 5th week; so stream 1-2 2 start pitchers per week or as needed.

Test Kitchen
Test Kitchen
Reply to  Grey
5 years ago

@Grey: Cool, thanks Grey

Rufus Xavier Sasparilla
Rufus Xavier Sasparilla
5 years ago

Orz

Me
Me
5 years ago

Thanks Grey!

Who are the players you can see finishing as the #1 fantasy player this year?

For me, I’d be surprised if it’s not one of these 5 players:

1. Trout
2. Betts
3. Altuve
4. Harper
5. Turner

PEDs3
PEDs3
Reply to  Me
5 years ago

@Me: Not Turner. Even if he goes 20-60 (total upside) he still likely won’t finish #1 overall. Keep in mind, Villar did that last year and wasn’t #1 overall.

Sweatpants Nation
Sweatpants Nation
5 years ago

Great post. And perfect timing for the weekend. Such planning skills. Looking forward to next week’s pitching combo post.
Have a great weekend.

toneDEAF!
toneDEAF!
5 years ago

DESMOND JENNINGS TO THE REDS!!! Career resurgence! Yeaaaaa…

Clogged Rosterman
Clogged Rosterman
Reply to  Grey
5 years ago

@Grey:

MRSA?

LenFuego
LenFuego