Now it’s time for everyone’s favorite game, Fantasy Baseball, Fun With Numbers.  Ding, ding, ding… Bassoon… Triangle!  Triangle!  Triangle!  Cow bell!  More cow bell!  One last ding.  So in this installment of Fantasy Baseball, Fun With Numbers we’re going to look at some 2nd basemen numbers and see if we can figure out why one is touted more than the other.  BTW, this is the first installment of Fantasy Baseball, Fun With Numbers, I’m only acting like I’ve done it before because I’m gooftarded.

Player A – In 395 Pre-All Star at-bats, 67/9/47/.314/9
Player B – In 372 Pre-All Star at-bats, 53/15/58/.280/19

Player A is Dustin Pedroia, Player B is Brandon Phillips.

Player A – Last season, 103/21/87/.285/6
Player B – Last season, 86/21/99/.286/1

Player A is Mark DeRosa, Player B is Garrett Atkins

Player A – In 77 at-bats in September, 15/2/22/.416
Player B – Cherrypicking this player’s best month of April where they had 107 at-bats, 16/3/17/.280/2

Player A is Asdrubal Cabrera, Player B is Orlando Hudson

Player A – In 340 ABs last season, 43/3/37/.306/11 — Largely drafted.
Player B – In 298 ABs last season, 46/3/28/.245/17 — Largely undrafted and rightfully so.
Player C – In 375 ABs last season, 58/6/33/.293/20 — Largely undrafted.

Player A is Howie Kendrick, Player B is Luis Castillo, Player C is Kaz Matsui.

Player A – In 120 at-bats Post-All Star, 18/4/13/.258/3
Player B – In 175 at-bats Post-All Star, 31/6/22/.263/6

Player A is Ian Kinsler, Player B is Rickie Weeks.

Cust Kayin’.

  1. Kevin says:

    I’ve got a fever for this new feature. And the only prescription…is more cowbell!!

  2. Bruce Dickenson says:

    I agree. This is a great new column. But I could have used a little more cowbell.

  3. 101 M.P.H. says:

    Babies…. before we’re done here….. this column’s gonna be wearing gold plated diapers!

  4. 101 M.P.H. says:

    @Grey: And a used diaper filled with Indian food for the worst fantasy baseball column of the year.

    I’ll lead off the nominations with Brad Evans from Yahoo sports. No column in particular, rather his body of work in general.

  5. Johnny says:

    I’d suggest the gold diapers to be a weekly award for whoever crapped the bed the worst in that given week.

    usage: “Man, I was way up in my H2H until Sabathia gold-diapered me”

    You have your gold stars, now you have your gold diapers.

  6. tyler says:

    Re; brad evans: lifetime achievement award? Maybe a bronzed statue of Bigfoot’s dick?

  7. Nick says:

    Alright trade just came in from my enemy & roommate back at school. i know its not happening but i want to counter offer and maybe pickup a better closer for devine…he offered Dye for BJ Upton…he knows i need power and i have a speedy team right now but thats not enticing enough for me…head over to the forums grey for a screenshot of both our teams and post some advice (under ‘trade talk’)!!! thanks

  8. Grey

    Grey says:

    @tyler: No comment.

    @Nick: Okay, I’ll check it out.

  9. That last comparison, the Kinsler/Weeks one, made me do a cartoon-style double take.


  10. IowaCubs

    IowaCubs says:

    Holy Cow… Just caught the Deadspin synopsis of the Berry v. Grey headcheese. Love the free pub. I wonder how much your readership has increased since the interview?

  11. Tarasco'sSecretStash says:

    GOTTA have more a this, baby….

    …except your first comparison forgot the part where Pedroia dropped a .345/.402/.547 with 11 steals in the second half and won the MVP.

  12. Doug Ault says:

    I just offered Hamilton, Dempster and Mora for Papelbon and Tex

    Am I nuts?
    Is he nuts?
    Have we all gone insane?

  13. BigFatHippo says:

    @Grey: I know I drink an extraordinary amount of beer compared to human beings but when did Garrett Atkins start playing 2B?

  14. Steve says:

    @BigFatHippo: I think the point is that you could have used DeRosa at 3rd…

  15. BigFatHippo says:

    @Steve: Yeah, I get it, just Razzing Grey so he doesn’t get a big head since he’s famous now. Almost Famous!

  16. Steve says:

    @BigFatHippo: There’s a rumour going round that Grey, you, and I are the same person.

    You two should be so lucky.

  17. BigFatHippo says:

    @Steve: Haha. Saw that.

    Grey is the Russell Hammond of Fantasy Baseballers <====== (his mom’s term)

  18. David Wrighteous says:

    I like these type of posts. I especially thought that the last one with Kinsler and Weeks is very telling as to how good Rickie Weeks can be if he stays healthy. I’m in a keeper league and someone is keeping Kinsler but Weeks is viewed as a leper almost. But I am one of the few who feels that Rickie has immense talent…if he could only stay healthy a full season he would definitely post Kinsler type numbers.

  19. arussell1983 says:

    @ Wrighteous: I think you have it backwards. For me the Kinsler/Weeks comparison just shows how over-rated Kinsler really is.

  20. Garrett says:

    @arussell: I don’t think it shows how overrated Kinsler is, it just goes to show you how close these guys really are. With cherry picking stats you can almost do that with anyone, which is why I don’t think this is such an indictment on Kinsler (although I like the Kendrick one, because he really is Luis Castillo until he proves otherwise). For instance, post all star:

    Player A: 261 AB’s, .330 BA, 16 HR, 54 RBI, 55 R, 4 SB
    Player B: 250 AB’s, .332 BA, 14 Hr, 49 RBI, 43 R, 2 SB

    Player A is David Wright, Player B is Aubrey Huff. Do you think wright is overrated?

  21. sean says:

    Things that make you go hmmm…. fantasy baseball edition.

  22. Christopher says:

    “Ding, ding, ding… Bassoon… Triangle! Triangle! Triangle! Cow bell! More cow bell! One last ding. ”

    What?!?! No gong, no Mean Gene the Dancing Machine?!?!?

  23. Grey

    Grey says:

    @Fman99: Yup.

    @Tarasco’sSecretStash: True, just highlighting how valuable Phillips was, something I think gets lost on some people.

    @Doug Ault: I want Tex and Papelbon.

    @David Wrighteous: If Rickie stays healthy, he could be a top 50 player next year. Then, of course, he will be overhyped.

  24. Grey

    Grey says:

    @arussell1983: I think it shows both. Not to mention, Kinsler hasn’t ever played more than 130 games.

    @sean: Ha! Nice.

    @Christopher: We got it. Are you going to be the commish? Is that your email that I received? If so, I’m responding.

    @Christopher: Darn, that’s right!

  25. Grey

    Grey says:

    @Steve: Actually… Could you do me a huge favor? Could you walk Christopher through setting up an RCL?

    @Christopher: Steve’s a doll, I’m sure he’ll help you.

  26. Steve says:

    @Grey: Ha! I’m changing my name to Ken, in that case.

    You mean setting up over at ESPN?

  27. Grey

    Grey says:

    @Steve: Yeah, please. His email is in the RCL post at the bottom. Thanks!

  28. big o says:

    the good thing about drafting rickie weeks is that you’re always invited back to join the league the following year .

  29. Tarasco'sSecretStash says:

    Brandon Phillips is the shit, no doubt. A buddy of mine’s had him as a keeper for his whole career so far, and I’ve always liked him from afar. I think he’s better than the .260/.312 hitter he showed last year, and that Cincy offense in TGAB this year is gonna rise the tide. He could easily blow up.

    I like Rickie Weeks too, I still have faith in this kid. He’s been a bit of a lifer for me so far, so I’ve got plenty of experience with Bad Rickie Weeks. But he’s still only 26 this year and the talent this kid has is rare. For all the struggles he’s had he’s got good hitting instincts…he’s posted a career OBP over .100 points above his batting average and stolen 85% of the bases he’s attempted. He’s shown some decent pop despite dealing with wrist troubles that have contributed to lower solid contact rates in his young career…his hitting style is quick to the ball and puts tremendous torque on his wrists coming through the zone, so his wrists are always going to be a concern. But if he can manage to stay relatively loose and healthy for a full 700+ PA season and boost that average up to even the .260 to .270 range – and he hit .289 in 771 career minor league ABs, so that’s certainly not an unreasonable ceiling for his major league peak years – he’ll become a monster for fantasy purposes. Suddenly you’re looking at a leadoff hitter with 20 homerun pop that’s getting on base at a .380 clip and stealing bases in front of Fielder and Braun…forget about the curveball, Rickie…give ‘im the heater!

  30. Tony says:

    RICKIE WEEKS IS HORRIBLE, some of you have bumped your heads. If he could even bat just .250 maybe he’d have SOME value. Too me he’s just another Mike Cameron. Too much “if he does then he’ll be great!”

    Well he’s not gonna, he’s rickie “i bat .225” weeks…..

  31. JamesLLeGade says:

    @Grey So Chone Figgins is 2b eligible in Yahoo… does this move him up your 300? if so how much?

  32. Grey

    Grey says:

    @Tarasco’sSecretStash: Yup… One of these years, Weeks is going to stay healthy and have a bit of luck in the BABIP dept, and just have one of those years. Then the following year, he’ll be insanely overrated.

    @Tony: Ha!

    @JamesLLeGade: He does move up. Speed from a MI spot is bad at all. He moves up probably about 5 rounds.

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