As much as I love publishing and giving you the “haps” on the closer ranks, I love the depth that a bullpen can give you and how it can affect your roster.  It is way to early to look into my Grafix crystal ball and say this guy and that one will be the crowned prince of the hold this year… to some degree.  Early usage and situations prove a lot.  Yes, injuries happen, and ineffective spells happen, and sometimes trades happen, but if you were good enough to make the team out of Spring, then usually you are good enough to make yourself an established piece of the bullpen.  The top names are still the top names.  The cream either rises to the top or it rules everything around me, both perspectives are interesting because how can you not believe the Wu or old school rhetoric. So with the first bullpen piece of the year, we will cover all the same things you are accustomed to from last year as I get more in-depth than anyone else when it comes to holds.  Some don’t care or are on the fence, as if it’s a completely comical or made up stat.  It is no more made up then saves, because that is exactly what it is, just before the save… so it is basically a pre-save.  Either way, I care and will give you some early trends to look at and some names to go with it.  Trends rule everything around bullpens or TREAB, dolla dolla bill y’all.

  • Top billing for me this week is a Hold stalwart and decent cuff-option Sergio Romo.  He has a tender elbow and this affects one of the most used bullpens in baseball.  Hunter Strickland, who was in my mind on par with what Romo could do, is the guy now for the time being.  Secondary props to Josh Osich, who as the second lefty who is a non-LOOGY, like Lopez, will get some decent looks.  Tertiary to George Kontos/Cory Gearrin if the news on Romo is less than good.
  • Maybe David Hernandez just isn’t meant to be closer.  His career ERA in straight save situations is three times higher than that when just in a hold situation.  He has 4 holds already and is a different pitcher then Jeanmar, and compliments him better then usurping him.
  • The Royals just keep churning out quality former first round draft pick bullpen arms.  Luke Hochevar is the new Ryan Madson.  Kelvin is still Kelvin in the same role, but Luke is the driving force and has given a nice 12 K/9 to date, and is the guy they call on when runners are on in scoring position, 8 inherited runners and one scored, with the lead.  Really great streaming option as he pitches two out of four days.
  • Nate Jones is the guy in pale hose garb.  The early season K return isn’t there yet, but he is a career 9.6 K/9.  The numbers will come, but for now, the pattern is Albers, Duke for LH, Jones, D-Rob to close it out.  It is also not surprising that the early bullpen success of the White Sox pin them atop the leader board for save situations (19) and Holds (11).
  • With Glen Perkins hitting the DL, and his outlook is bleak at best, as he has battled injuries similar before.  His velocity has decreased for four straight years and I am not confident on something longer term then normal.  Kevin Jepsen held his own last year and went 15 saves and 24 holds last year with 5 blown.  His previous experience and the lack of that experience, or “unreadiness” from May… well, Chargois and Burdi lead me to believe that Jepsen is the guy unless the Twins continue the futility and go into punt formation.

Smokey’s Swimming up Stream:

Streaming options to play and punt for the next week:

Saturday – Jim Henderson,  NYM @ Cle.

Sunday – Blake Treinen, Was @ Phi.

Monday – Zach Duke, CHW vs. Angels.

Tuesday – Bryan Shaw, Cle vs. Sea.

Wednesday – Junichi Tazawa, Bos vs TB.

Thursday – Pedro Baez, LAD @ Atl.

Friday – Luke Hochevar, KC vs. Bal.

 

Player Holds/BS App with Lead IR Runners/IR Scored
Nate Jones 4/1 5 3/1
David Hernandez 4/0 5 2/1
Drew Storen 4/0 4 0/0
Sergio Romo 4/0 4 1/1
Justin Wilson 4/0 5 1/0
Fernando Salas 3/1 4 3/1
Zach Duke 3/0 6 1/0
Sam Dyson 3/0 6 3/0
Koji Uehara 3/0 4 0/0
Tony Watson 3/0 3 2/0
Mychal Givens 3/0 3 1/0
Junichi Tazawa 3/0 3 0/0
Matt Albers 3/0 4 4/0
Neftali Feliz 3/0 3 3/1
Hector Neris 3/0 3 4/2
Boone Logan 3/0 3 5/2
Jose Alvarez 3/0 3 3/1
Brett Cecil 2/2 4 2/2
Luke Hochevar 2/2 4 8/1
Darren O’Day 2/0 4 0/0
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Crapshoot Kershaw
Crapshoot Kershaw
6 years ago

20 team league with holds and saves. i have rondon/colome/siegrist/jumbo, dropping jumbo for either cotham, but don’t think i want 3 saves guys/1 holds guy, esp when i could get a GOOD holds guy anyway. options are benoit/cedeno/hudson/treinen/tazawa.

Will
Will
6 years ago

The only saves I currently get are from Andrew Miller. I missed the draft and missed on saves. anyway, I have Trevor May too. Who else should I gamble on as a save vulture, but will still help in K’s, WHIP and ERA in the meantime?

Hochevar, Giles, O’Day, Dyson, Kelvin Herrera?

I keep wanting to add Giles for the potential upside, but not sure. I would be dropping Morales, Schoop or Souza Jr. All are bench / UTIL bats for me. I have an abundance of 2B with Segura, Rendon, Dozier and Schoop. (3B is Arenado and SS is Correa so I don’t need Segura or rendon at those spots).

Will
Will
Reply to  Will
6 years ago

@Will: @Smokey Thoughts??

Beetroot McKinley
Beetroot McKinley
6 years ago

I cannot find stats on zack Weiss anywhere. Is he pitching? For what affiliate? Thanks man.

toneDEAF!
toneDEAF!
6 years ago

I have McGee, Vizcaino, and Jepsen for saves in a H2H points league. Someone dropped Jeffress. Should I switch out Jepsen for Jeffress?

Also, thoughts on Cingrani? Should i try to get him at the expense of a streamer spot and see if he works out and then re-evaluate my closers later?

Flowers misses his old glasses... he's ok tho
Flowers misses his old glasses... he's ok tho
6 years ago

i’ll clean this up for one spot.

1.dynasty with holds, relief appearances, k/9 and relief wins, farq/caminero/grimm/quack/may. 20 teamer with 7 RP slots. surprising this many even decent options out there, lot of guys dropped lately. started year with more closers but now have giles/diekman/tolleson/salas/hatcher/kela/farq. can stash burdi or chargois as well (but they’d likely not be keepers for next year, we keep up to 25, but mostly hitters in those slots, or SP. i last year had melancon/tolleson/giles/k-rob but have since traded melancon/iglesias/k-rob/quintana/t.anderson for upton/archer/cobb, so big up at expense of bullpen flipping there.

2. NL only for saves only, hold jumbo (in minors likely short term) or grab quack/m.castro/cothem city/cingrani (CIN)?

3 saves only (ratios 2nd) best out of: grilli /giles/cedeno/soria/maurer/may, i currently have dyson.

Flowers misses his old glasses... he's ok tho
Flowers misses his old glasses... he's ok tho
Reply to  Smokey
6 years ago

@Smokey: just saw this now, glad i did, cingrani was gross, and like you said on castro, saw that too. is cothem city (or ohlendork) over jumbo the best one in the NL only?

Flowers misses his old glasses... he's ok tho
Flowers misses his old glasses... he's ok tho

@Flowers misses his old glasses… he’s ok tho: that could apply in #3 as well, grilli/may/cothem city.

Flowers misses his old glasses... he's ok tho
Flowers misses his old glasses... he's ok tho
Reply to  Smokey
6 years ago

@Smokey: yeah, that NY site proclaimed cothem city new guy likely so i went him in 2 and 3. that site ain’t monkeying around.

Flowers misses his old glasses... he's ok tho
Flowers misses his old glasses... he's ok tho
Reply to  Smokey
6 years ago

@Smokey: interesting on lorenzen, yr first to mention that one. cothem’s K rate hasn’t been great but only guy to not have been blown up (most of the time with jumbo and hoover) yet.

Flowers misses his old glasses... he's ok tho
Flowers misses his old glasses... he's ok tho
6 years ago

dynasty with holds, relief appearances, k/9 and relief wins, farq or caminero (YEA!!) or quack or grimm? 20 teamer with 7 RP slots. surprising this many even decent options out there, lot of guys dropped lately.

2. NL only for saves only, hold jumbo (in minors likely short term) or grab quack/m.castro/cothem city (CIN)?

3 saves only (ratios 2nd) best out of: grilli /giles/cedeno/soria/maurer, i currently have dyson.

Flowers misses his old glasses... he's ok tho
Flowers misses his old glasses... he's ok tho

@Flowers misses his old glasses… he’s ok tho: chargois and burdi options in the first one as well, could even stash, we have 5 NA slots (i have good prospects in mine already, but margot and dahl mostly only as trade chips).

Flowers misses his old glasses... he's ok tho
Flowers misses his old glasses... he's ok tho
Chadaristic
Chadaristic
6 years ago

Ryan Madson or Kevin Jepsen?

Which would you rather roster?

SteveNZ
SteveNZ
6 years ago

Do you see Ryan Dull getting any Holds action for the A’s?

Slimbo
Slimbo
6 years ago

hey buddy

we have 8 spots for svs/hlds guys am im only using 6, but 5 top 12 closers…davis, britton, osuna, miller, rondon, madson and givens

do i need to hang onto givens? we use k/9. kind of hard to drop him?

wanna grab matt moore
Thx

Slimbo
Slimbo
Reply to  Slimbo
6 years ago

@Slimbo: Using 7

Slimbo
Slimbo
Reply to  Smokey
6 years ago

@Smokey:

Could drop Souza Jr instead? He’s just a bench bat

SteveNZ
SteveNZ
6 years ago

Who’s the best Holds option in that Dodgers pen. Currently I have Baez and have taken Yimi and Hatcher for a spin so far this year, but there doesn’t seem to be a consistent usage pattern emerging just yet.

Thoughts?

SteveNZ
SteveNZ
Reply to  Smokey
6 years ago

@Smokey: So of course they go to Hatcher tonight! Sheesh.

JakeTPE
JakeTPE
6 years ago

Hey Smokey. Love your work! I currently have Giles and Dyson as insurance for Gregerson and Tolleson in my league (we count Holds, my other closer is Rondon, and we usually roll 3 closers, 2 set-up guys).

Do you see the Holds upside of the former pair equal to say a Nate Jones or Hochevar/Herrera? Both Gregerson and Tolleson have nailed down their recent chances and I’m hoping they prove to be Donkeycorns.

How do you usually play this situation? If the set-up guy is pitching well, I wouldn’t question it, but if Giles keeps giving up HR (we count HRA), I’m thinking I might move off him and leave Gergerson exposed. Thoughts?

Thanks again. Best post of the week! (Don’t tell the Fantasy Master Lethario.)

JakeTPE
JakeTPE
Reply to  Smokey
6 years ago

@Smokey: 10-4 Smokey thanks for the advice. The HLD-SV combo in same game is nice too!

kenly0
kenly0
6 years ago

15 team roto with holds plus saves as a category.

I have Grilli, QBUSH, Feliz, and Oh

Would you swap out any of those with these?

Brach, Givens, Axford, M. Castro, P. Baez, J. Henderson, Albers, Salas, or J. Alvarez

We have limited moves. So, I’m looking for Rest of season totals.

Thanks, Smokey. Keep up the great work

kenly0
kenly0
Reply to  Smokey
6 years ago

@Smokey:
Thanks for the quick reply

SheriffMcRawDawg
SheriffMcRawDawg
6 years ago

What up smoke. Any Carson smith news? Does he get the 7th back right away?

Also, super deep 15-team AL only, S+Hlds, would you drop Petricka or Enny Romero for any of the following?
Mahle
Mike Morin
Abad
Kyle Ryan
Ryan Webb
TJ McFarland
Taylor Rogers
Biagini

And/or I could DL Franklin Morales

Thanks mang

SheriffMcRawDawg
SheriffMcRawDawg
Reply to  Smokey
6 years ago

@Smokey: he’s taken unfortunately. thanks for the tip though.

Looks like someone just dropped Ryan Pressly – would you drop Petricka for him (Enny just got a hold and has some more value in a dynasty I feel)?

thanks man

SheriffMcRawDawg
SheriffMcRawDawg
Reply to  Smokey
6 years ago

@Smokey: what about long term? this is a super deep dynasty (S+Hlds) where pretty much the only available starting players are relievers and waives are only twice a week so streaming isn’t too reliable.

drop or hold Petricka for Mahle, Morin or Pressly long term?

SheriffMcRawDawg
SheriffMcRawDawg
Reply to  Smokey
6 years ago

@Smokey: cool thanks man

Joeg414
Joeg414
6 years ago

Whom would you rather have T.May and T.Zych ? Looking for K’s /9 and maybe a Save. I own both K.Jepsen and S.Cishek.
6×6 daily roto (No Holds ) and Saves are hard to come buy (especially my team with Hoover and Colome also on it )

Michael Davis
Michael Davis
6 years ago

SV+HLD league, dropping Matt Moore for a RP. Would you advise NJones, PStrop, or JWilson? Also factor in K/9

Bocephus
Bocephus
6 years ago

Probably a question you’ve had way too many times this week, but should I grab Jepsen and drop Giles? Or continue to hold Giles and hope he turns it around?

Currently have McGee, Tolleson and Rodney.. Not too f’ing good.. But maybe good enough to wait on Giles a bit longer. What do you think?

Thanks!

The Great Knoche
The great Knoche
Reply to  Bocephus
6 years ago

@Bocephus: Velasquez has more outs recorded in the 9th inning then Giles

Bye Felica
Bye Felica
Reply to  Bocephus
6 years ago

@Bocephus: lose Giles for Jep

Grandma's boy
Grandma's boy
6 years ago

need saves! Gomez or Jepsen or Castilla?

Bye Felica
Bye Felica
Reply to  Grandma's boy
6 years ago

@Grandma’s boy: Casilla, Gomez, Jepson is my order.

Casilla will get the most save chances

Al Koholic
Al Koholic
Reply to  Bye Felica
6 years ago

@Bye Felica: I conncur

Carl Weathers
Carl Weathers
6 years ago

You the man Smokey, these are so good to have.

The Great Knoche
The Great Knoche
6 years ago

Thoughts on MIguel Castro as a decent option (Outside of Coors) Small sample size, but ratios between this year and last look yummy.