Psst!  This post is gonna list 2nd basemen that you should target in your 2018 fantasy baseball drafts.  I’m whispering because you don’t want everyone to see this post.  No, I can’t whisper louder, then it WOULDN’T BE WHISPERING!  Okay, gig’s up (or maybe that’s jig’s up), the love I’m about to reiterately (Made Up Word of the Day!) confirm is on these guys I love later in drafts.  I’m not going to mention Ian Happ other than this one mention of him where I say I’m not going to mention him.  I’m not mentioning Happ other than this mention of not mentioning him because these are players that you’re looking at later and all of them have ADPs after 200.  Some could be the 2nd baseman on your team, they are more than likely MIs.  This is a (legal-in-all-countries-except-Croatia) supplement to the top 20 2nd basemen for 2018 fantasy baseball.  Click on the player’s name where applicable to read more and see their 2018 projections.  Anyway, here’s some 2nd basemen to target for 2018 fantasy baseball:

Scooter Gennett (ESPN 284)  Scott Kingery, who I don’t mind, is ranked ridiculously high in ESPN’s rankings.  This is weird (not weird).  Why I say this is weird (not weird) because ESPN never ranks rookies above vets of comparable value.  I don’t even think ESPN knows rookies.  Seriously.  No joke.  However (this is were it becomes ‘not weird’) Karabell’s favorite team is the Phillies, so he ranked Kingery extremely high.  Told you weird (not weird).  As for Scoots McHitTheBallInTheAiry, there’s no consensus on where to draft him.  Some people say around 300 overall, some say around 175.  I don’t know exactly what he’s going to do, because I’m not a witch, but my money’s on closer to last year, than previous years.  His HR/FB% was high, but he’s also in a top ten park for homers.  His .295 average was high, but he cut down on his swings, made the swings he did take count for more and his .339 BABIP isn’t insane for a career .327 BABIP guy.  I’d bet on a 25+ HR, 5 SB, .270 season from Scoots vs. a total bust season.  Trying to make this wager in Vegas hasn’t been easy, however.

Brandon Drury (ESPN 293; Yahoo unranked) Feels a little like the guy the Yanks just got rid of that he’s replacing, assuming Drury’s starting at 3rd, i.e., Chase Headley.  Might peak at 16 homers with a .265 average, but he’s still very young (25) headed into his 3rd full season (breakout time), and the Corporate Teepee To Consumerism They Built Across The Lot From The House Ruth Built won’t hurt Drury.

Chris Owings (ESPN 308; Yahoo 266)  I always seem to be the only person interested in Owings, and every year it seems like there’s a reason for that.  All I will say is he went 12/12 in only 362 ABs last year, and he’s still only 26.  Also, maybe the D-Backs have to be more aggressive on the basepaths this year since the ill-humidor’d conditions.  I know, Owings isn’t pegged as the starter, but he always gets his at-bats.

Jose Peraza (Yahoo 220)  One quick note here, in general.  If it wasn’t for Yahoo’s cockeyed rankings, there wouldn’t have even been enough 2nd basemen to write this post.  I love Jose Peraza, and he’s ranked on ESPN around 180, which is before my arbitrary cutoff for this post.  Yahoo, on the other hand, well, if you can figure out why they have some of the guys in this post ranked so low, you win the Nobel.  Go to your mailbox and wait there, I’m mailing it out.  Get it yet?  How about now?  Now?  Okay, check back in 20 minutes.  As for Peraza, he’s covered by Anime Grey:

Eduardo Nunez (Yahoo 203)  Fenway seems like it will play right into Nunez’s strengths.  Just slap some dubs off the wall, and jog into first, only to then steal 2nd.  If you’re hesitant on him because Pedroia will return and Nunez will be pushed to the bench, then I have a few names for you of players who can’t stay healthy:  Pedroia, Hanley, Mitch Moreland, J.D. Martinez and Nunez himself.  Even in 400 ABs, Nunez always seems to get that good value.

Paul DeJong (Yahoo 213)  Previously, I laid on your medulla oblongata my Paul DeJong sleeper.  There I said, “There’s little to pass on with DeJong or for Grey to poop on, but can he be Colonel Mustard?  He hit 16 HRs in only 289 post-All-Star Break at-bats, but he did hit a bunch of ‘Just Enough’ homers.  I’m not confident in saying he’s going to hit a ton more homers with an extra 150 ABs in 2018.  He did hit 13 homers in only 48 Triple-A games, so he does elevate the ball, and gets to his power.  My guess is his strikeout rate (28% last year) will come down a little, he’ll hit for a little less BABIP, and his 20% HR/FB% will come down a hair.  Which makes him a push-push-push in the Busch.  So, is his last year repeated good enough for you or do you want a Bob boffer?”  And that’s me quoting me!  Legit, I had no idea what I meant by ‘Bob boffer’ either.  I thought it was a typo at first or Bob Barker with a pussy.  Cat!  C’mon, gross!  Turns out ‘Bob boffer’ was a reference to a Bob who was sleeping with your wife and/or girlfriend, which I went over in the sleeper post.  I will now say ‘Bob boffer’ without any reference point.

Tim Beckham (Yahoo 279) I was going to say it’s crazy town how low Yahoo is on Beckham, and I do think that, but looking at a collective ADP on him, and, well, Yahoo’s a lot closer to collective wisdom on Beckham than I am, so let’s ask ourselves about plastics and dive into the pool to figure out why I like him.  Camden is a lot better than the Trop for homers.  Orange you glad this bears fruit for Beckham’s power surge after his trade to Baltimore?  I am.  He was a lot more aggressive at the plate than I’d like to see, but all things equal he’s a .260 hitter.  Not awful, not great.  He stole six bags in 11 attempts last year, which is awful, but he did have years of 15+ steals in the minors and he’s only 28.  Would a 15-steal surprise you?  Well, it would surprise me, but I guess it’s possible.  20/7/.260 in the top of Baltimore’s order is still worth more than the 279th overall pick, and if he sneaks into a 25/12/.275 season it’s going to be way more valuable.

Devon Travis (Yahoo 341) I think I might be in the Bob boffer scenario for Travis, and I might need to raise him in my rankings.  Or maybe that’s me not boffing Bob — a Bob unboffer?  I was thinking maybe I’d put Travis in as the top 2nd baseman in Fantasy Pros, so everyone who did no research, went there, would see him above Altuve, and draft him in the first round.  It’s the Anarchists’ fantasy baseball cookbook.  By the way, out of all hundred or so experts’ rankings last year, Rudy’s rankings came in 2nd.  As for Travis, he has 15/12 potential, and might be leading off for the Jays.  Then again, every year around this time, Travis or Kevin Pillar are supposed to be leading off for the Jays and never do.

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Champ
Champ
4 years ago

What’s your take on Scott Kingery? I feel like this kid has Ronald Ocuna-type skills. Thoughts?

CountryTime
CountryTime
4 years ago

Have a couple holes to fill with solid OFs as trade bait…would Conforto for Ozzzie and Salvador Perez be too much of a practical decision this early in the season or a good spend of excess? Currently employing D.Travis and Chicharrones at 2B and C.

Willy Mo
Willy Mo
4 years ago

Ivan Nova was 3-2 with a 1.50 ERA in five starts last April while allowing one walk in 36 innings. He gets the opening day start vs tigers who are projected for 64 wins. The only problem I see is after nova has a big game it’s going to be hard for me to cut him to stream Andrew Heaney, 2018s alex wood. Lol

Crime Dog
Crime Dog
4 years ago

Just had a draft. Inherited a team with nado, degrom and Upton as keepers. 10 team using OPS instead of average. What are your thoughts? Other than the enormous bench size…

C-zunino
1B-hoskins
2B-albies
SS-gregarious
3B-arenado
OF-ozuna
OF-marte
OF-upton
Util- wil Myers
Bench-Murphy, Olson, acuna, beltre, bird, E.rosario, zimmer, j.polonco

SP- degrom, Paxton, bauer, godley, Snell
RP- kimbrell, holland, betances

The Eye of Horus
The Eye of Horus
4 years ago

Grey-
Stupid autoplay video advertising. When will site owners understand that they suck.

It is really difficult to surreptitiously read Razzball during my college class when your page features advertising that opens autoplay video. It’s kind of embarrassing when a sports broadcast plays over the classroom speakers and everyone stares at me. At least it’s not porn, you say? Yes, that is true, but it also means that I cannot read Razzball without taking extreme cautions. I have the same issue with freakin’ CBS and their pop-up autoplay videos. I just stopped going to CBS. I hope I don’t have to stop going to Razzball, too.

Thanks for listening!

FrankGrimes
FrankGrimes
4 years ago

Starting season three later tonight…
Hoping it’s as good as first two.

Milarky
Milarky
4 years ago

Yo Grey, looking for first round advice. 6×5 (+SLG%), 10-team deep roto league (we start 2 at each IF position + 2 Util, 5 OF, 6 SP, 3 RP and 1 rookie hitter a pitcher). We keep 4 hitters and 2 pitchers. I’m starting with Rizzo, Stanton (DH only), Rendon, and Gordon (OF only). What I’m struggling with is whether to go strictly by your rankings, or whether I need to consider which positions I’ve got no one for yet. I’ll be picking 8th, and here’s some idea of the hitters that may be available.

Marte
Hosmer
Schoop
Buxton
Segura
Myers
Puig
Cain
Turner
Cespedes

I find myself wanting to gamble on Buxton or reach for Puig, but not sure if I’m crazy. I would guess that Schoop would be there for me, but worried that last year may have been his ceiling. Thoughts on what kind of strategy to employ?

Ashtray
Ashtray
4 years ago

12 team h2h 7×7

Would you rather keep Jose Ramirez in the 10th or Severino in the 22nd.

Ramirez is a 7 category stud in this format ( cats include OBP & Ks) but Severino is super cheap.

Crazy J
Crazy J
4 years ago

Yahoo 10-team H2H OBP instead of AVG

1. (2) Mike Trout (LAA – OF)
2. (19) Trea Turner (Was – SS)
3. (22) Freddie Freeman (Atl – 1B,3B)
4. (39) Noah Syndergaard (NYM – SP)
5. (42) Carlos Carrasco (Cle – SP)
6. (59) Brian Dozier (Min – 2B)
7. (62) Anthony Rendon (Was – 3B)
8. (79) Byron Buxton (Min – OF)
9. (82) Felipe Rivero (Pit – RP)
10. (99) Ryan Braun (Mil – OF)
11. (102) Raisel Iglesias (Cin – RP)
12. (119) Luis Castillo (Cin – SP)
13. (122) James Paxton (Sea – SP)
14. (139) Luke Weaver (StL – SP)
15. (142) Archie Bradley (Ari – RP)
16. (159) Nomar Mazara (Tex – OF)
17. (162) Blake Snell (TB – SP)
18. (179) Michael Conforto (NYM – OF)
19. (182) Brad Brach (Bal – RP)
20. (199) Wilson Ramos (TB – C)
21. (202) Jake Faria (TB – SP)
22. (219) Trey Mancini (Bal – 1B,OF)
23. (222) Tim Anderson (CWS – SS)

This was me directing picks over the phone to my son, so round 10 we didn’t have enough players in que and ended up with the first, of a few, panic-induced picks.

I just realized you guys have an OBP ranking for Yahoo, so I’m going to contrast our results against your recommendations. Overall, though, I thought we assembled a very competitive team. Last two-years (after fantasy absence since 2007) we have won the overall standings.

Pretty sure I don’t need Anderson, but we’ll be streaming pitchers when the season starts.

Anyhow, any advice from what you see here would be appreciated!

Crazy J
Crazy J
Reply to  Grey
4 years ago

@Grey:

Thank you, agree… I’d like another solid power bat.

So, I’m trying to use the sortable rankings Razzball provides and I’m trying to wrap my head around some of it. I’m looking at 5×5 OBP under Yahoo, and also the 10-team Yahoo. On the 10-team it shows Samardzija as the 17th ranked SP and that just feels weird. I get that it’s just math and it says maintained by Rudy, but how is that possible? Another example is Jon Gray is 117 and Sonny Gray is 152, which is significantly different than the pitcher rankings you blogged. Looks like I can drop Mancini for a significant waiver wire pick up as he is ranked at 405 on the 10-man ranking, and 160 on the OBP batters list. Thames, who is 73 on the OBP list is available on waivers after he clears and I thought that’s a good OBP upgrade.

Just trying to learn so I can best apply this information to my team.

Blind umps have rights too (seriously their union is that strong)
Blind umps have rights too (seriously their union is that strong)
Reply to  Crazy J
4 years ago

@Crazy J: rudy’s projections really like shark and hate s.gray it’s not an error.

CrazyJ
CrazyJ

@Blind umps have rights too (seriously their union is that strong):

Thanks. I will have to drill down to the details and figure out Grey’s tweaks on the projections to what’s it’s using.

DonnieB
DonnieB
Reply to  Crazy J
4 years ago

What league has Turner going 19th overall?

FrankGrimes
FrankGrimes
Reply to  DonnieB
4 years ago

@DonnieB: same one has a Trout going 2nd haha.

Blind umps have rights too (seriously their union is that strong)
Blind umps have rights too (seriously their union is that strong)
4 years ago

are you aware of a little box in the bottom right hand part of the screen from fox sports? it appears to be called a “tout player”. this didn’t show up here ever until maybe the last 8 hours. my above comment, when i posted it it wasn’t showing up, is now. doesn’t show up on my computer for any other site so i gotta assume it’s your page. small video player bottom right hand screen.

Blind umps have rights too (seriously their union is that strong)
Blind umps have rights too (seriously their union is that strong)
Reply to  Grey
4 years ago

@Grey: still leaves a little box in bottom part of screen. i sure hope yr making a lot of money on that ugly thing if it’s going to stick up there forever from this point on. even the shit sites (yahoo/espn) don’t have boxes that stay on page.

oh yeah fox, if you are listening, i’ll go OUT OF MY WAY TO MAKE SURE YOU GET EVEN LESS MONEY FROM ME THAN NOW FOR THE REST OF TIME. trying to hamstring my favorite site, dirty ass shit birds. good advertising on that one. sick shit if we can’t have an option to remove it (if there’s a way to remove it please mention, i can’t find it)

Blind umps have rights too (seriously their union is that strong)
Blind umps have rights too (seriously their union is that strong)

@Blind umps have rights too (seriously their union is that strong): wasn’t being facetious about “hoping you make a lot of money” i do, if you’re getting like an extra few thousand a month from that i’m willing to put up with it as you deserve that. but i also hope you are making whatever amount you think has value to you, otherwise it sucks for you to have to leave that junk up on every page (that is sucks for us and sucks that your awesome site will forevermore have this associated with it)

Blind umps have rights too (seriously their union is that strong)
Blind umps have rights too (seriously their union is that strong)

@Blind umps have rights too (seriously their union is that strong): seems gone now. if you did something thanks. whew, at first i thought i had a virus, as the only other time i’ve had shit like that pop you can’t get rid of was in fact, a virus. thought it was go back to factory settings time (few hours of having to reset all programs and such) unless it was caught by malware bites or something.

– other than virused up computers i don’t know anybody that wants to see that stuff.

Blind umps have rights too (seriously their union is that strong)
Blind umps have rights too (seriously their union is that strong)

@Blind umps have rights too (seriously their union is that strong): ahhh, it’s back again. i don’t know how i dodged it for a few minutes there.

Blind umps have rights too (seriously their union is that strong)
Blind umps have rights too (seriously their union is that strong)
Reply to  FrankGrimes
4 years ago

@FrankGrimes: i’m not talking about the regular ads, i mean the pop up box. and it just started here at the date above.

Big Magoo
Big Magoo
4 years ago

Which pairing would you rather have: Betts/Freeman or Stanton/Lindor (or J-Ram)? Might have to make a call between Mookie and Giancarlo in the 1st.

Gavin Smith
Gavin Smith
Reply to  Big Magoo
4 years ago

@Big Magoo: Stanton for me. Strengthened by the fact I don’t like Freeman as much as others in that weak ass lineup.

Big Magoo
Big Magoo
Reply to  Gavin Smith
4 years ago

@Gavin Smith: Freeman was arguably the best hitter in baseball through mid-May before getting hit by that pitch. The new park is very friendly to left-handed power too. Inciarte/Albies/Freeman/Acuna (around late April) is a pretty solid top four. And now I’m talking myself into Betts/Freeman!

Cram it
Cram it
Reply to  Big Magoo
4 years ago

@Big Magoo: See I don’t have confidence in that protection. Who says you get Freeman that late too?

Big Magoo
Big Magoo
Reply to  Cram it
4 years ago

@Cram it: His current adp is 21.4. It’s a 12 teamer, and I’m drafting out of the 7th slot, so my 2nd rounder is #18 overall. He’s still on the board more often than not.

Through May 17th (when he broke his wrist), he was slashing .341/.461/.748 (1.209 OPS) w/ 14 homers in 37 games. Essentially a 60 homer pace. Had a 16.4% BB% too. He’s a line drive/hard contact machine, so he usually carries a high BABIP too. Not saying that pace would’ve been sustainable, but .320/40 was probably likely with reasonable regression. That was prior to the Albies call up when the Braves were getting nothing out of their #2 slot.

Big Magoo
Big Magoo
Reply to  Grey
4 years ago

@Grey: Yeah it is. Sexy doesn’t always win though. Plenty of time for sexy later on. But I do like that pairing.

Big Magoo
Big Magoo
Reply to  Grey
4 years ago

@Grey: Boring floor early + late breakout picks equals success more often than early sex appeal, if you’re playing the odds

Big Magoo
Big Magoo
Reply to  Grey
4 years ago

@Grey: Lindor is a high floor player. Stanton is sex personified, but you just have to look at his career numbers from year-to-year to see the ebbs and flows.

Chud
Chud
4 years ago

Trades flying in my full dynasty salary keeper:

I’ve been offered:
Goldy ($24)/Paxton($4)/Melencon($10)

For
Sano($22)/Dozier ($18)/Happ($5)/Mazara($4).

Red or green light? Expertise always appreciated!

Cram It
Cram It
4 years ago

The most laborious choice I’ve had to deal with in NFBC is between JC Ramirez and Hector Santiago…in round forty freaking three. It’s making nauseous. Please help me. Not with the pick, with my sanity! I need this draft to be over.

Cram it
Cram it
Reply to  Grey
4 years ago

@Grey: Ya jerk. I’m loving how these guys have been stocking up on AAA potential while I log ABs and IPs. Yes you take Calhoun and Dustin Fowler. I’ll take Melky and Heyward. I waited the longest on SP but it’s rounded out to be way safer than the field.

Cram it
Cram it
Reply to  Grey
4 years ago

@Grey: Exactly. I mean they’re both garbage, and you probably won’t need them but they’re there if you do!

Cram it
Cram it
Reply to  Grey
4 years ago

@Grey: Yeah Kaleb Coward is looking viable to me at this point.

AllThePrettyStantons
AllThePrettyStantons
4 years ago

Hi Gray and anyone else. This roster worth a damn? 12 team H2H points league that counts holds, 7 game start limit per week. I was drafting 12th at the elbow.

Pre-emptive response to “too many bench bats”: I hated everyone in 13th-17th round so went with bros I like. Also I’m usually ok at scrapping RP’s off the wire. Thanks in advance any and all.

C – Castillo (20)
1b – Goldy (Keeper)
2b – Gordon (3)
SS – Story (15)
3b – Moustakas (11)
OF – Judge (Keeper)
OF – Khris Davis (6)
OF – Cain (7)
U – Cruz (5)
SP – Degrom (4)
SP – Tanaka (8)
SP – Wood (9)
SP – Pomeranz (18 wtf)
SP – Wacha – 19
RP – Osuna (10)
RP- Hand (12)
RP – Melancon (16)
RP – Claudio – (22)
RP – Minaya (25)
BN – Sano (13)
BN – Conforto (14)
BN – Rosario (17 wtf)
BN – Montgomery (21)
BN – Reyes (23)
BN – Manaea (24)
BN – T. Williams (26)

SteveO
SteveO
4 years ago

Grey,
Do you think Robles or Acuna break camp in the bigs?

I am the Walrus
I am the Walrus
4 years ago

I need to find a upside 2B that give me a few steals for my bench just incase Vilar sucks.

Waiver ptions are:
Wong
Harrison
Kingery
C.Hernandez

Oh and just traded Renfroe for Mancini. Nice right?

50 Shades of Jon Gray
50 Shades of Jon Gray
4 years ago

10-team H2H… Which keepers would you pick from the following (3 max):

Schoop 18th rounder
Bregman 10th
Segura 21st
Bauer 22nd

Really I’m struggling between Segura and Bauer. The one caveat with them is that Bauer could be kept again in 2019, whereas Segura can’t.

Thanks!

50 Shades of Jon Gray
50 Shades of Jon Gray
Reply to  Grey
4 years ago

@Grey: It’s strong and it’s sudden and it’s cruel sometimes, but it might just save your life… That’s the Bauer of Love!

OaktownSteve
OaktownSteve
4 years ago

I might be dead wrong about Godley. His curve scored really, really high, it came out of nowhere. Meanwhile, his FB graded out negative. If hitters can reduce their chase rates and work him into favorable counts he’s going to struggle I think. He needs that curveball to be just as good as it was last year. I’m sure it’s a legit curve but there aren’t a lot of examples in the last 10 or so years of guys who have curve as their best pitch and put up a ton of dominant seasons. But I could be very wrong.

OaktownSteve
OaktownSteve
Reply to  Grey
4 years ago

@Grey:

I think he’s also getting extra juice from the humidor talk.

OaktownSteve
OaktownSteve
Reply to  Grey
4 years ago

@Grey:

If it’s bad for hitters, gotta be good for pitchers, right? Now you can like him even more.

Brian
Brian
4 years ago

If you were a betting man (which i assume you are) how do you see the ARI closer situation shaking out. I took a flyer on hirano just in case. how many saves you projecting for him?

OaktownSteve
OaktownSteve
Reply to  Grey
4 years ago

@Grey:

Hirano is the next Kaz Sasaki. Racial profiling.

BJFOHOHL
BJFOHOHL
4 years ago

Sorry about Willie C

The Great Knoche
The Great Knoche
Reply to  BJFOHOHL
4 years ago

@BJFOHOHL: Rangers didn’t get the memo that nobody cares about his defense in fantasy.

Stumanji!
Stumanji!
4 years ago

Grey, Welcome back! I mean me, to the daily comments.

Keeper deadline is approaching, and I’m trying to choose my 6th and final keeper in a 12 team OPS keep forever league. Pham or Conforto? Conforto was my future before his shoulder injury scurred me off and I was planning to keep Pham. Now just today there are reports that Conforto is already going to play this week and could be ahead of his May 1 return date. I’m struggling with the decision.

Me: Conforto is only 25 and has superstar potential.
Also me: But Pham is healthy NOW and could go 30-30.
Me: Pham has only had 1 good year. The only 30 mark he’s going to reach this year is his age.
Also me: Shoulder injuries are scary. Remember Michael Brantley last year?
Me: Do you really want to look back when Conforto is raking and say you let him walk for Tommy Phucking Pham???

Help me out!

P.S. You still owe me a Giants game if you come up to SF this summer.

Stumanji!
Stumanji!
Reply to  Grey
4 years ago

@Grey: So I guess that means you’re a *pinky to mouth*…phan??

Cram It
Cram It
4 years ago

Any Yahoo AUCTION commissioners out there that use FAAB for waivers? I know the default for in-season FAAB is $100, but I don’t know how to change it. Anyone know where this option is in the settings?

Schwab Stumped
Schwab Stumped
4 years ago

Grey! Excited for a new year and more Razzball!

10 team ESPN standard roto which one are you keeping (keep 5) from the below. Already have Betts, Treat Urner, Freeman, and Bellinger locked in.

Segura $8
Nola $3
Adam Duvall $8
Button $9

Schwab Stumped
Schwab Stumped
Reply to  Grey
4 years ago

@<a href="#[email protected]Grey: Damn you auto correct! Not drafting a button for $9, although it might have a better average than Buxton some months.

Thanks for the advice, going Nola per FML.

Marti
Marti
4 years ago

5 spots left in to league 67. Draft tonight. $20 buy in

M8tt
M8tt
4 years ago

Good stuff as always.

14 team keeper league…keep 18 players. Which side do you take?

1. Rizzo
2. DJ LeMahieu, Alex Wood, Alex Verdugo, Victor Rubles

Giving up a lot in Rizzo but based on your Prospect Rankings it looks like Verdugo and Rubles could make impact as early as this year.

Thanks for your thoughts.

Todd
Todd
4 years ago

Hey, Grey. Thanks again for all your advice and Reggie Roby references leading up to the season. Just finished my 12-team points league draft. Anything stand out to you about my team that I need to address now that our waiver wire is open?

We play C, 1B, 2B, 3B, SS, U, OF, OF, OF, 5 SP, RP.

C–Grandal, Barnes
1B–Cabrera, Bird, Mancini
2B–CT3, Gennett
3B–Arenado, Franco
SS–Didi, Arcia
OF–Harper, JDM, Acuna, CarGo (and CT3, Mancini)
U–(whichever backup is hot)
SP–Kershaw, Carrasco, Nola, Bauer, Gausman, Montgomery, Aaron Sanchez, Newcomb
RP–Kimbrel, Treinen

Thanks, Grey!
Todd

Todd
Todd
Reply to  Grey
4 years ago

@Grey: Awesome, thanks!

Yeah, CarGo was a second-to-last round flyer. Maybe he’s got something left, maybe he’ll keep Arenado happy in real life and on my team. No real expectations.

OaktownSteve
OaktownSteve
4 years ago

@Grey: You’ll also have to hope Robles doesn’t come up and Wally Pipp Taylor.

OaktownSteve
OaktownSteve
4 years ago

Answered above on NFBC. I like your team too, Albie. It does look like OF dried up on you pretty fast. You might be looking at quite a few Pence ABs.

swaggerjackers
swaggerjackers
4 years ago

@Grey:

Any debate on which of these 7 to keep in a 10 team roto league or should I just stick with the first 7?

Bryant
Lindor
JD Mart
Hoskins
Verlander
Robbie Ray
Myers
Pham
McCullers
Berrios
Moncada

FROMBEYOND
FROMBEYOND
4 years ago

Hi Grey,

I know you’re high on Bellinger and think Correa is a schmohawk, but would you give Correa to get Bellinger in a keeper league where the offensive stats are R, HR, RBI, SB, OBP, SLG, and my other keepers are likely: Stanton, Lindor, Rendon, Hoskins?

Thanks!

Scott Steelers
Scott Steelers
4 years ago

So… I can either keep Trea Turner rd 1 OR keep Schoop rd 11 and have a 1st rd pick. Looking like machado or correa. Other keepers are Bellinger and Jose ramirez
So which side would you go with? I’m leaning machado/correa and schoop. Cheap speed later

The Great Knoche
The Great Knoche
4 years ago

St. Hilaire is the patron saint of Slow!

The Great Knoche
The Great Knoche
Reply to  Grey
4 years ago

@Grey: I just got sniped on Valbuena in Round 40. Amazing how it still pisses you off even when it’s for a guy with a batting average below .200.

I’m amazed there are still starters out there who are going to start year in rotation. So many flyers on guys who may or may not be up before September. Seems wasteful.

The Great Knoche
The Great Knoche
Reply to  Grey
4 years ago

@Grey: Yup. Good thing I took Markakis later on.

Chris D.
Chris D.
4 years ago

I need some Grey wisdom in my life for the first time this year. Dynasty league: Guy wants either Price or Arrieta for Puig. Are either of those worth that and if so, which one?

Thanks in advance Grey.

Dr Sauce
Dr Sauce
4 years ago

5X5 ESPN, head to head, 6 man keep forever (no costs, inflation etc).
Current keepers: Goldy, Betts, Bryant, Rizzo, Robbie Ray, Ronald Acuna
It’s a keep forever and I am pretty set on keeping Acuna, as such I see my 6th keeper as Robbie Ray. I would prefer to keep 6 bats, as I have the 6th overall pick and there will be pitchers like Ray (if I drop him), Carrasco, Degrom, Grienkie etc.
Mulling a few trade possibilities;
1. Bellinger/Benintendi for my Goldy
2. Hoskins/Buxton or Yellich for my Rizzo
Either of these any good or just stick with what I got??
Love the site, thanks for the great reads

Test Kitchen
Test Kitchen
Reply to  Grey
4 years ago

@Grey: Sounds good. I am a bit wary as I think 8 of the 10 teams need another RP so unless I start or am in the middle of that run then I’ll be without one of those guys. Once I do go with an RP would you say those guys are pretty much all of the same rough value or does someone stand out to you? I liked Bradley a lot until the dreaded “closer by committee” announcement.

Thanks

Test Kitchen
Test Kitchen
Reply to  Test Kitchen
4 years ago

@Test Kitchen: This did not post under the right comment, my bad.

Dr Sauce
Dr Sauce
Reply to  Grey
4 years ago

@Grey:
I was leaning that way as well … thanks.

Test Kitchen
Test Kitchen
4 years ago

Grey,

My pitching is currently as follows in my 10 team weekly league:

Sale
Verlander
Wacha
Gausman
Corbin
Iglesias
Hand

Pitchers left are:
T Walker
Gray
Taillon
..and then every pitcher from the tier Stunod
Holland
A Miller
Bradley
Rodney
Parker
Brach
Familia

I think i need to go with a closer but feel like its a complete crapshoot. Any advice? Just try to snag a couple of those guys and hope one of them is solid?

Also, think I need any more Starting pitching? Maybe hope for Walker on the next time around? I shoulda taken him over Corbin

Test Kitchen
Test Kitchen
Reply to  Grey
4 years ago

@Grey: Sounds good. I am a bit wary as I think 8 of the 10 teams need another RP so unless I start or am in the middle of that run then I’ll be without one of those guys. Once I do go with an RP would you say those guys are pretty much all of the same rough value or does someone stand out to you? I liked Bradley a lot until the dreaded “closer by committee” announcement.

Thanks

Scott Kimmel
Scott Kimmel
4 years ago

Hey Grey,

Got a trade offer. I was offered Hunter Renfroe, in exchange I give up Chris Devenski. I was thinking of countering with either, Eric Thames, Bryan Shaw, Scooter Gennett, Scott Alexander. Who should I counter the offer with?

Scott Kimmel
Scott Kimmel
Reply to  Grey
4 years ago

Grey,

I rejected Alexander. He countered asking for Bryan Shaw for Renfroe

Scott Kimmel
Scott Kimmel
Reply to  Scott Kimmel
4 years ago

sorry. I meant he rejected Alexander, and countered by asking for Shaw in a trade for Renfroe

Scott Kimmel
Scott Kimmel
Reply to  Grey
4 years ago

i would have him for depth.

Scott Kimmel
Scott Kimmel
Reply to  Grey
4 years ago

This is what my OF looks like: Ohtani, Braun, Thames, Acuna, Blackmon, Fowler, Ozuna, and Trout.

shuttsdown
shuttsdown
4 years ago

Keeper league: need help
10 team league. H2H
Categories: R, H, 2b, 3b, Hr, rbi, bb, sb, avg
W, L, Sv, K, Hd, Whip, K/9, Qs
Keep 3 years in round drafted.
Players picked up as free agents are last round keepers or players that are traded restart the clock for new owner in the round the original owner picked the player.
need 6 keepers

Freeman-2nd round (first year keeper)
Seager-last round (third year keeper)
Bregman-last round(first year keeper)
Carlos Correa- last round (first year keeper)
Rafeal Devers- last round( first year keeper)
Ronald Acuna- last round ( first year keeper)
Yoan Moncada- last round( first year keeper)
andrew Benintendi- 8th round ( first year keeper)
Victor Robles- last round (first year keeper)
Jose Berrios- last round ( first year keeper)
Edwin Diaz- last round (2nd year keeper)
Felipe Rivero-last round( first year keeper)

Im thinking
freeman
bregman
seager
correa
devers
acuna

shuttsdown
shuttsdown
Reply to  Grey
4 years ago

@Grey:
up not off.

The Skrimmer
The Skrimmer
4 years ago

Everything but 2B…Just finished my draft and I have some players to put some contracts on. I have two 3-year and four 2-year contract to give. From the following list, who should I contract: Machado and Acuna are my current plans for 3-year contracts. Thanks.

J. Abreu: $24
M. Machado: $27
B. Buxton: $14
Y. Puig: $11
J. Upton: $15
R. Acuna: $4
C. Kershaw: $30
R. Ray: $16
L. Castillo: $9
T. Bauer: $6
K. Gausman: $6
M. Wacha: $4

Ohtani Bonaduci
Ohtani Bonaduci
Reply to  The Skrimmer
4 years ago

@The Skrimmer:

3 years I go Kershaw and Machado
2 years I go Abreu, Bauer, Buxton and Acuna.

Reasoning –
3 years -I lock up a top arm for three years at a solid price. Machado with ss/3b and playing in a more solid lineup at the trade deadline and the next two years.
2 Years – I want the most production for value. Only reason I go Bauer over Castillo is the potential for wins.

shibboleth
shibboleth
4 years ago

Hey Grey and co., thanks again for the awesome writing and draft prep!

Hoping I did you proud. 12 tm roto — 5×5 — OPS, QS, SLD

C- Barnes
1B- Myers
2B- Rizzo
3b- Seager
SS- Turner
CI- Belt
MI- Rosario
OF- JD, Yelich, Braun, Tomas, Keirmaier, Hays

SP- Severino, Cole, Weaver, Castillo, Salazar, Santana
RP- Allen, Hand, Reed, Treinan, Melancon

Hankg
Hankg
4 years ago

Question on draft strategy. In leagues with “extra” categories (in this case OPS and Holds) is it better to use traditional rankings as a draft guide (e.g., Grey’s 5×5 rankings) or would it be recommended to use league-specific rankings (like those found in Rudy’s rankings)? Would be interested in anyone’s thoughts. Thanks.

knucks
knucks
Reply to  Hankg
4 years ago

@Hankg: Download the .csv of both the hitters/bats in Rudy’s rankings for your extra categories. Then combine them into one file and filter by $$ from largest to smallest. This helps me value OPS and QS categories better than I prob could. Will also carry a tip from Grey to the draft room for a QS league that I played in a few years ago where we replaced Wins with QS… it was something like “I’d want 2 SPs in the top 25, with one being a top 10 if I could swing it.”

This is the first year I’m playing in a few leagues that use non standard batting categories and ripping Rudy’s ranks to .csv been my strategy because I really don’t know how to value some of those extra categories on my own this year. I’ve pre-ranked in ESPN based off of Rudy’s ranks exactly. I know enough from reading Grey’s feelings all pre-season and it will still prob influence me a fair amount one way or another.

For example, Rudy’s ranks show me Blackmon at $31.2 over Ramirez at $30.9… but gun to my head I’m sure I go Ramirez there. But its def helpful to know how to try to value Blackmon with OPS as our 6th category.

Rudy’s ranks helped to show how much more value guys like Votto, Carlos Santana, Duda, Bour, Gallo, etc might have for me in a league I’m doing that will have OBP and SLG as replacements for AVG. Someone like Samardzija took a big jump in the ranks that use QS. I’m pretty sure Rudy is higher on him in general though.

Good luck this year Hank!

OaktownSteve
OaktownSteve
4 years ago

Don’t like Peraza at all. Below average defensively and a terrible hitter. I watched a few Reds spring games yesterday and Peraza looks so bleh. Senzel on the other hand looks 100% MLB ready. Looks a lot like a Bregman type. No doubt he can handle the SS spot. Range, feet, arm all there. Just a little seasoning. The bat looks like a typical top college bat. Contact is there, power will develop. Eyeball test…he’s the real deal. Peraza may still get his ABs as he can move around the diamond but there’s no way he carries that position all year.

Also like Winker on the Reds. Reminds me of Conforto a little bit. Very short to the ball, great hands.

Maikel Franco is in bad shape. He’s sporting a serious gut. He’s pulling the off the ball something fierce. He might find it but his leash is going to be real, real short. He better find it early or it’s going to be a lost season for him. Wouldn’t go near him.

Watched a little bit of the Braves yesterday too. Acuna looks as advertised. I still like Albies a lot, but I feel like it’s going to be hard for him to return a profit where he’s now being drafted. Second base is probably the deepest position this year. There are plenty of viable options that are probably going to go undrafted in 12 team mixed. As much as I’d like to own him this year and believe he’s going to be a long term asset, I’m going to be passing for my remaining drafts.

Padres have expressed a desire to get Pirela every day ABs. Some sneaky speed power and the possibility that he’s going to get 2B eligibility sometime mid season. Reading the tea leaves on the Padres, I think I’d be off Renfroe. Starting to feel like the odd man out. Would not be surprised to see them try to flip him.

FrankGrimes
FrankGrimes
Reply to  OaktownSteve
4 years ago

@OaktownSteve:
I like Pirela too.

Thoughts on A.J. Puk?

OaktownSteve
OaktownSteve
Reply to  FrankGrimes
4 years ago

@FrankGrimes:

I think he’s up before June. I asked Ralph and he disagreed. A’s rotation is so so bad. You can hear in Melvin’s interviews how much he wants him with the big club.

Geoff
Reply to  OaktownSteve
4 years ago

@OaktownSteve: You might be right, I think he needs time in the minors, but you’re not wrong that he’s better than what they got. It’s rare you hear a manager leave the door open for a prospect to break camp on team that’s not in contention. I worry his BB/9 is going to be around 5, if he breaks camp.

OaktownSteve
OaktownSteve
Reply to  Geoff
4 years ago

@Ralph Lifshitz: He’s shown better control in the spring, which is encouraging if not totally meaningful. He’s unfinished. When he does come up, I’m guessing his first couple go arounds through the league he gets a bump just because it’s going to take guys awhile to get used to facing him. Lefties are going to be all kinds of uncomfortable.

OaktownSteve
OaktownSteve
Reply to  Grey
4 years ago

@Grey:

Funny I was just doing an assessment this morning. No teams really jumped out at me as stand out. There are 4 or 5 teams that are very unlike a team I would draft or want, but you really never know.

Third place I’ll say Fister Pujols. I liked the way the offense started, though not wild about Daniel Murphy I do understand that pick. The first 4 SPs were enough for me to compliment the offense heavy start but I haven’t liked the pitching choices towards the back half of the draft and I’m afraid the team will struggle to compete in the pitching.

Second I’ll go with St. Hilaire. I’m starting to come around on Gerrit Cole and the narrative that the Astros analytics can boost his value. Thor/Nola/Cole could be a very nice return on a little bit of risk taken. Thought he got good prices on a few guys. Arcia, Hanley, Gardner come to mind. Nice mix of vets and upside. The downside with this team is I did not like the bullpen picks at all. Familia, Vizcaino and Claudio were taken in early middle rounds and could all be zeroes by the end of May.

First, I’ll go Get Trout. There’s a fair amount of risk in his SPs but I mostly like the names. Didn’t love the Longoria pick, but that’s a little nitpicky. Kipnis/Castro as the only 2B guys is a little dodgy but there’s upside with Kipnis at that price. He probably doesn’t have a second closer either with Gregorson looking iffy. Liked the lotto ticket on Tucker at 31.

OaktownSteve
OaktownSteve
Reply to  Grey
4 years ago

@Grey:

He was my 4th, but I don’t like his pitching nearly as much as you do. I see Quintana’s Ks backing off a bit. I’m not in the Godley camp. I’m not sure why not. I’m always worried about guys who’s plus pitch is off speed as they come back for their second season. Remember having this argument with Magoo about Matt Shoemaker after his breakout season with the splitter. The league digests and adjusts. If he’s unable to generate the same number of swinging strikes with the curve I fear he starts to look really average. I could be very wrong on this. Giolito looks like a low K rate innings eater in a tough park. Didn’t like the Archie Bradley pick. Felix I’m worried about the innings.

I can see where you’re coming from though. If things come together there’s definitely a contender in there.

The Great Knoche
The Great Knoche
Reply to  Grey
4 years ago

@Grey: I like St. Hilaire the slow as my favorite

The Great Knoche
The Great Knoche
Reply to  Grey
4 years ago

@Grey: Now that you mention that I overlooked the power aspect.

I like my team the best! Except my pitchers. Those dont count right?

Seize The Trea
Seize The Trea
4 years ago

What’s your take on the Yankees Neil Walker signing? He’s expected to start; would you take a flier on him over Travis or Owings in a deep 14-Team H2H OBP League?

Evan
Evan
4 years ago

Im with the guy earlier. You concerned about senzel displacing peraza?

DancinHomer
DancinHomer
4 years ago

Morning Grey,

With Rizzo having 2B eligibility in Yahoo, where would that put him in your rankings? I know you have him at 14 and did mention his 2b eligibility, but curious if your bump him up at all due to that.

FrankGrimes
FrankGrimes
Reply to  DancinHomer
4 years ago

@DancinHomer:
Nah

Yager
Yager
4 years ago

Drafted Rizzo to play second base in a 20 team mixed roto at 16, as the draft unfolded I snagged Chris Taylor and Tim Anderson and had to move Rizzo to first and Mancini to the OF. Lol. Plans changed significantly that day!

Question: Somone dropped Cargo after the draft, and I have the fourth waiver. Would you count on a bounce back and use the waiver?

Also, how did I do?

C- Chirinos
1B- Rizzo
2B- Taylor
SS- Anderson
3B- Rendon
OF- Cain
OF- Rosario
OF- Mancini
UTL- Gurriel

SP- Castillo
SP- Pomeranz
SP- Wacha
RP- Jansen
RP- Osuna
P- Miller
P- Robertson
P- Devenski
BN- Gohara
BN- Musgrove
BN- Velasquez
BN- Williams

FrankGrimes
FrankGrimes
Reply to  Yager
4 years ago

@Yager:
That’s why it’s silly to plan Rizzo as your 2b.
Second base can be deep.

Yager
Yager
Reply to  Grey
4 years ago

@Grey: Thank you for the feedback, much appreciated. On the pitching side of things I was trying to get relative value, and so many pitchers were overdrafted and huge reaches. The two in particular that I missed out on by a few picks were Bauer and Morton. However this league does have walks for a category, so I stocked up on high end relief non-closers.

SLOBaseball
SLOBaseball
4 years ago

Hi Grey
Dynasty league (20 teams, 30 max positions), who should I keep/drop (18 keepers) in scoring system (R, HR, RBI, SB, AVG, W, K, ERA, WHIP, SV+H ):

Giancarlo Stanton
Mookie Betts
Eric Hosmer
Miguel Cabrera
Matt Carpenter
Ian Desmond
Andrelton Simmons
Adam Eaton
Francisco Mejia
Randal Grichuk
Devon Travis
Raimel Tapia
Anthony Alford
David Peralta
Melky Cabrera

Luis Severino
Craig Kimbrel
Kevin Gausman
Jon Gray
Blake Treinen
Luis Castillo
Brad Peacock
Kenta Maeda
Mike Foltynewicz
José De León
Jack Flaherty
Nate Jones
Seung Hwan Oh

Thanks!

SLOBaseball
SLOBaseball
Reply to  Grey
4 years ago

@Grey: Got 15, need 3 more among Randal Grichuk, Devon Travis, Raimel Tapia, Anthony Alford, David Peralta, Melky Cabrera, Brad Peacock, Kenta Maeda, Mike Foltynewicz, José De León, Jack Flaherty, Nate Jones and Seung Hwan Oh.

Chud
Chud
4 years ago

Good stuff Grey! Love these posts on late round targets.

10 team dynasty trade offer:

I get Berrios/Lindor//Lamb

I give CMart/Didi/Sano.

Who wins?

Thanks !

Nick
Nick
4 years ago

Hi Grey :)

José Peraza is avb in my Dynasty league !! (as well as Hays) …
players you love for 2018 and beyond
my starter at 2B is Schoop schoop song

with 2B eligibility, i already have Merrifield and Calhoun -you like sooo much-

What about Nick Senzel spending time @2B ?

but i’m feeling frito mixto with my pitchers
SP1 Tanaka
SP2 Cueto
SP3 Rich Hill
SP4 Chase Anderson
P Hamels
P Lamet
RP1 Knebel
RP2 Shane Greene
Bench Mikolas

who should i drop / trade / trade for ?
dynasty! so maybe i can look for future value not overpriced yet

I have too many OF : starters : JDMart/Buxton/KDavis
bench: Acuna/Merrifield/Calhoun/Mancini
i offered Cespedes for Cole, it may work !
for Godley, awaiting
was declined for Mc Cullers

… along with Cespedes, i can combo trade Cueto / Hamels and/or Greene but who can i get?
Bauer ? Archer?

also i’d like to add RP AJ Minter soon

Nick

Blind umps have rights too (seriously their union is that strong)
Blind umps have rights too (seriously their union is that strong)
4 years ago

@Mark Maharaj: think he had some injury, but i had him too during most of that time in numerous spots. he’s cheap as SHIT this year though, thus far in early drafts i’ve done.

Mark Maharaj
Mark Maharaj
4 years ago

Jose Peraza me. He just stopped stealing last year. Literally for two months, zero stalls. As Kelly Bendy asked her never, Peggy Bundy, is that some type of record for getting nothing?

Blind umps have rights too (seriously their union is that strong)
Blind umps have rights too (seriously their union is that strong)
4 years ago

10 team AL only h2h with OBP over AVG, total bases added, net steals over steals, QS over wins and holds added. 3 keepers and we’re doing a slow draft (optional) till online draft near MLB season time. 25 rounds.
C
1B
2B
SS correa (1)
3B devers (24)
MI
CI
OF mancini (could be at CI or 1B too, 25)
OF
OF
util
SP (7 or 8 optimal)
RP (4 slots)
have a pick in 5 picks. some mix of these will be out there:
hitting: (listed in order by OPS rater) son of donald (35.7, but i’d guess he’s drafted soon anyway), abreu (27.9), E5 (25.4), sano (23.8, but he should be lowered being fat and likely missing time anyway), k.davis (19.6), miggy (19.3), gallo (18.5)
pitchers (QS/holds used) : carrasco (20.4), archer (20.3), kimbrel (18.9), chapman (16.3), otani (16), tanaka (14.2), stroman (11.9)

my next pick after is 5 more picks away. should i grab my first pitcher in 5 picks, or one of the hitters? i’d assume for sure donaldson is gone by my 1st pick. possibly one of the closers (hopefully)

Blind umps have rights too (seriously their union is that strong)
Blind umps have rights too (seriously their union is that strong)

@Blind umps have rights too (seriously their union is that strong): oops, we DO have a 4th OF, looked back at that and 3 didn’t make sense.

Blind umps have rights too (seriously their union is that strong)
Blind umps have rights too (seriously their union is that strong)
Reply to  Grey
4 years ago

@Grey: that was my feeling too, even if i’m probably sure to miss abreu (might anyway before the SP pick), as i don’t want to get stuck with like stroman as a #1, which could happen in 10 picks if i don’t before then. it’s bad enough having 3 guys you might not own in 16 teamers due to it being AL only where the worst SP are even worse than in NL only.

Ante GALIC
Ante GALIC
4 years ago

Grey!!!

Great write-up, once again!

a. You never cease to amaze me! Keep it up.

b. Didn’t go for the 2nd day of the 2-day training which was a carbon copy of the training that took place end of February. The reasons?

1. Internet was off for 7 of the 8 hours of day 1 of the training which makes for many very dull moments.

2. Am gearing up for the start of the exercise which is supposed to take place in Nakiavale tomorrow or as my Frenchy-speaking boss calls it…Naked Valley (sic, no jokes!). I prefer Naked Valley over Nakivale (original name of the settlement).

c. The story behind how my boss (Frenchy-type) called it Naked Valley is newsworthy. He was writing an email on the subject of how the refugee verification exercise is coming to Nakivale. Then he saw the squiggly red lines under the settlement name – Nakivale refers. Then he right-clicked over the name and chose the first auto-corrected name to come up – Naked Valley of course!! Slightly funny, right? Frank Voila.

d. Gonna love Scooter in standard RCLs all night long! Just put him in the MI depending on matchups of course, but he is a more than useful super utility infielder and a former prospect that’s a late bloomer. Everything is possible with Scooter in the fold.

Cheers,
Ante

Ante Galic
Ante Galic
Reply to  Grey
4 years ago

@Grey: Grey!!!

To get this far you most likely have a PhD in psychology (or child psychology in some instances on this site) or logic, you choose!

On the lunch issue, there was a free lunch attached to the training. But it was the exact same lunch as they always serve and as they served on day 1. So, I guess subconsciously you were right. It was lunch-related.

Cheers,
Ante